First time working with our 1951 John Deere Model R. Pulling a 13 foot wide offset Ford Disk through hard soil gives this old tractor a workout, but it did just fine.
Always run an “R” at full throttle when working. Don’t bog it down. It will pull your disc in 3rd gear at full throttle. I grew up in the back of one. Love your video.
There were some passes where I was at about 3/4 throttle and as I re watched the footage I could tell the tractor sounded happier running wide open, like you said.
I do a lot of tillage with my 820, hard rocky ground and a lot of hills. I run it at about 3/4 throttle in 3rd and it handles it just fine, use either a 13ft disk or 13 foot cultivator with 13 foot chain harrows behind it. I've only ever seen mine reach 180*F twice and that was cultivating hard ground in 90*F weather with the rad shutters closed tight. Just happily sits around 140 most of the time. They sure sound great laboring a bit.
The old girl pulls really well. Those offset disc pull hard. I have a '51 & '53....just a suggestion, always run the 2cyls. with the throttle wide open.
Yeah, temp gauge got up to 190 while pulling in 3rd gear. So I slowed down to 2nd and the temp dropped to 180 and held steady. So that's where we ran it must of the day. Why full throttle as opposed to 3/4 (which was about where I was at)
@@jonelsonster I've been running R's since Moby Dick was a minnow......unlike some later diesels, they are NOT designed to pull at less than full throttle. Do what you want it's your tractor.
A fabulous machine still earning its oats. An old but very proven technology. You might want to check the accuracy of the gauges and keep it well oiled. What oil does JD recommend for these tractors. Also any fuel additives if their original valves and seats
Great video! Haven't been around an R to hear them run. I believe all R's are diesel, but do they all have pony motor start? Or are some electric start? Thank you!
Yes, all model Rs are diesel. And all start with a pony motor. I think the first electric start JD diesels from the factory were the 730 and 830. But even this could still be had with a pony motor. All 70D, 80, 720D and 820 were pony start.
Is that a crankcase ventilator pipe type thing on the right side of the R, and did you add that to the R, pretty impressive pulling power. I’m working on a 1949 R and mine does not have the breather type thing.
That's the oil fill port. We have another R and it doesn't have that breather apparatus either. It just has a steel pipe sticking out. Not sure which is stock. It was like this when we got it. It might be off a model D.
Brasil 🇧🇷 perfeito R ,tenho um 820 que meu pai comprou em 1958 novinho, é a melhor visão que já te trabalho de 🚜 que conheço e conforto nesse banco visão perfeita de trabalho. Arei muita terra com um arado 5 disco 28",jonh deere também. Á noite visão era muito bonita ver o escapamento vermelho, agora quero restaurar o JD 820 ,ainda todo original. Mas tenho que ver alguém aí da América para comprar peças para restaurar, adesivos, juntas bomba d'água, anéis e outras coisas.
@@jonelsonster Every JD manual I've ever read states you need to have them at full throttle under a load in order to avoid engine damage. Otherwise, they will beat their bearings up because of the intermittent power impulses. They aren't like a smoother running 4 cylinder. They need the rpms to keep the engine from beating itself up.
@@jonelsonster Its amazing to me how long those pony motors last, going 0-90 from a cold start, we never had any issues on our 830. I think the V4 on the 830 ran at like 4500 rpm.
That’s an old offset disc you should lay off lands and work them out. The disc isn’t designed to go up and back up and back because you always leaving a fur Raul one side it doesn’t cover itself.
After I went over the field with the offset disc as an initial pass my dad followed with the butterfly disc ( th-cam.com/users/shortsh1hcyLyumeI?si=vbdW8fvrdHSi_Jnh ) to further break the ground down. In the end the ground was smooth with no dead furrows.
Yes we spent a bit of time pulling in 3rd and the tractor didn't have a problem. But the temp would rise up to about 200 while in 3rd, while it was only 190 while in 2nd. So we kinda switched back and forth between the two.
Oh tractor sounds real good but he does need to throttle it up and he’s pulling a offset disc. It’s not a tandem so going up and straight back isn’t the proper way to run that disk you should lay off flange that way you don’t have a dead furl every time you go back.
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Always run an “R” at full throttle when working. Don’t bog it down. It will pull your disc in 3rd gear at full throttle. I grew up in the back of one. Love your video.
There were some passes where I was at about 3/4 throttle and as I re watched the footage I could tell the tractor sounded happier running wide open, like you said.
Well I've lugged them down great many times they just keep popping away. Can't hurt them.
I own a restored 1952 "R" and I just love hearing her pull my John Deere 3 bottom 16 inch plow. Great video as always
Thanks! Yes there is a huge difference hearing one of these two cylinders hit under load vs just driving around in a parade, for example.
Nice to see these old 2 cylinders still putting in some good work. And that's also a beautiful 430.
Yes indeed!
I do a lot of tillage with my 820, hard rocky ground and a lot of hills. I run it at about 3/4 throttle in 3rd and it handles it just fine, use either a 13ft disk or 13 foot cultivator with 13 foot chain harrows behind it. I've only ever seen mine reach 180*F twice and that was cultivating hard ground in 90*F weather with the rad shutters closed tight. Just happily sits around 140 most of the time. They sure sound great laboring a bit.
While I was running in 3rd it was always around 190. But while my dad was on it, he ran out in 2nd sand the temp dropped and stayed stay at 180.
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The old girl pulls really well. Those offset disc pull hard. I have a '51 & '53....just a suggestion, always run the 2cyls. with the throttle wide open.
Yeah, temp gauge got up to 190 while pulling in 3rd gear. So I slowed down to 2nd and the temp dropped to 180 and held steady. So that's where we ran it must of the day. Why full throttle as opposed to 3/4 (which was about where I was at)
@@jonelsonster I've been running R's since Moby Dick was a minnow......unlike some later diesels, they are NOT designed to pull at less than full throttle. Do what you want it's your tractor.
Beautiful tractor. It behaves very well
We're pleased with it.
The R did a fine job of pulling the disc in 3rd gear. Love the Poppin Johnnies
Yes, I was pleased with how it ran.
That new ground disk and the old R is getting it done!
It's a good running old tractor. Lugs down and keeps on pulling.
It is so pretty when raw power and 2 cylinder music converge.
Power and sound!
Sounds great!
Thanks! The diesel engine sounds similar... But still quite different than the gas.
I think I almost could smell the diesel smoke sitting here when you started it up!
It's a great smell, isn't it?
Gotta love them 2 cylinder diesel engine sounds
They are iconic!
No doubt in my mind that the R would have no issues pulling the disc. Nice video.
I was hoping it wouldn't have any issues, but having never worked this tractor like our others, I still had doubt. So I was glad to see it did great.
A fabulous machine still earning its oats. An old but very proven technology. You might want to check the accuracy of the gauges and keep it well oiled. What oil does JD recommend for these tractors. Also any fuel additives if their original valves and seats
Good tips! We run 15W-40 in all our old tractors. We don't add any additives, but we do but ethanol free gasoline in our gas powered rigs.
I just love to hear her start and idle.
A model R sounds great!
Nunca más se fabricarán tractores eternos como estos
She's in real good shape
Thanks!
Great video! Haven't been around an R to hear them run. I believe all R's are diesel, but do they all have pony motor start? Or are some electric start? Thank you!
Yes, all model Rs are diesel. And all start with a pony motor. I think the first electric start JD diesels from the factory were the 730 and 830. But even this could still be had with a pony motor. All 70D, 80, 720D and 820 were pony start.
R was all pony motor start.
Sweet old deeres!
Thanks!
Is that a crankcase ventilator pipe type thing on the right side of the R, and did you add that to the R, pretty impressive pulling power. I’m working on a 1949 R and mine does not have the breather type thing.
That's the oil fill port. We have another R and it doesn't have that breather apparatus either. It just has a steel pipe sticking out. Not sure which is stock. It was like this when we got it. It might be off a model D.
Brasil 🇧🇷 perfeito R ,tenho um 820 que meu pai comprou em 1958 novinho, é a melhor visão que já te trabalho de 🚜 que conheço e conforto nesse banco visão perfeita de trabalho. Arei muita terra com um arado 5 disco 28",jonh deere também. Á noite visão era muito bonita ver o escapamento vermelho, agora quero restaurar o JD 820 ,ainda todo original. Mas tenho que ver alguém aí da América para comprar peças para restaurar, adesivos, juntas bomba d'água, anéis e outras coisas.
That's cool.
If you ever work on the R PTO, please post that video, mine will not disengage and the PTO is constantly turning, thanks!
Sure thing!
What it's made for. Blessings
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@@jonelsonster There you go!
when shutting off the pony, do you let it run it dry in the carb or do you just shut it down, (not an engine nerd so excuse me if i sound stupid)
On the model R pony motor, when you shut the fuel off the engine shuts down immediately. There is no float bowl on the carb like you'd normally see.
He sure seems to have an aversion to running that R at full throttle on a straight pull
Why do so many have aversions to running at partial throttle?
@@jonelsonster Every JD manual I've ever read states you need to have them at full throttle under a load in order to avoid engine damage. Otherwise, they will beat their bearings up because of the intermittent power impulses. They aren't like a smoother running 4 cylinder. They need the rpms to keep the engine from beating itself up.
@@24681359David good insight. I have not seen that anywhere.
It would be nice if you could idle the pony a little when it first starts to get things circulated a bit
The pony motor on an R doesn't have an idle speed or throttle adjustment. Just one speed.
@@jonelsonster Its amazing to me how long those pony motors last, going 0-90 from a cold start, we never had any issues on our 830. I think the V4 on the 830 ran at like 4500 rpm.
That’s an old offset disc you should lay off lands and work them out. The disc isn’t designed to go up and back up and back because you always leaving a fur Raul one side it doesn’t cover itself.
After I went over the field with the offset disc as an initial pass my dad followed with the butterfly disc ( th-cam.com/users/shortsh1hcyLyumeI?si=vbdW8fvrdHSi_Jnh ) to further break the ground down. In the end the ground was smooth with no dead furrows.
how many acres is that field?
That field is like 7 acres.
a '51 model R making her at least 70 years old, SHE/ BABY ran perfect....welll...MADE IN AMERICA SO WHAT WE EXPECT????!!!!!!!!!!
John Deere makes a good tractor. Very heavy duty.
Need to use a rock picker on the field .😊
Welcome to farming in the mountains
But that old tractor sounds good. It sounds like it probably pulled in third gear.
Yes we spent a bit of time pulling in 3rd and the tractor didn't have a problem. But the temp would rise up to about 200 while in 3rd, while it was only 190 while in 2nd. So we kinda switched back and forth between the two.
Oh tractor sounds real good but he does need to throttle it up and he’s pulling a offset disc. It’s not a tandem so going up and straight back isn’t the proper way to run that disk you should lay off flange that way you don’t have a dead furl every time you go back.
Thanks for the tips. For us, it didn't really matter since we disked it s couple of times trying to break the soil down.
Tengo 2 R, realmente son una maravilla. Javier Bohle Schaffer. Río Frío. Chile
si realmente se ve que NO save nada , ACELERA ESE TRACTOR para que el motor trabaje liviando , al llegar la punta o cabesera , dobla y levanta a la vez , no precisa que pares . SUERTE !!!
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