Having a hard time with the next direction I want to take my personal build, so I wanted to ask you guys what you think. Leave a comment or suggestion. Ill be sure to check them all! Thanks everyone.
Personally, I say definitely make the switch. I have always been interested in those wall mount style cases. Bitwit built his personal rig in a similar case and mounted it on the wall a while back. I think it had a 6900XT or a 6950XT. It looked really good. Otherwise, I would suggest the Tower 300, but it seems like you like bigger cases. In that case, you could do the Tower 500 or the Tower 900 and do a dual loop. Also, Thermaltake has the Core P3 TG Pro which is a similar ish style to what you are considering.
Thanks Erock, yeah I remember that bitwit build. Specifically the video about the failing Phanteks PSU he had (ran into something similar with a customer). The p3 is cool, just a very popular case which I am sorta tryna avoid haha. That Inwin Tou case, they only made 500 😬
Thermaltake has the core P6 and the core p8. I have the core p8 which is freaking massive! No seriously, it weighs 50 lb with nothing in it. The P6 however, is more contemporary sized. The reason why I bring them up is one of their options for setup is a open air wall mounted system. I didn't do that, but it's one of the options available with it
How long before we get some manufacturer capable of drilling holes in TG so when you mount a GPU vertically it isn't pushing hot air against glass with 1mm clearance.
Can't go wrong with the aesthetics that an open case bring. Likely would build in one myself when I do build my next computer. It just has the type of feel a system would have when in the hands of someone versed into tech 👀. I say go for it if it isn't any trouble!
Appreciate the comment, and yeah sorta my thoughts too. Also the ease of use,. swapping cards, memory, etc. Just gotta keep blowing the dust off is all! Haha
Nice man, I found this after we talked last night and I asked you what case you had lol...I am still on the fence abotu the NZXT H9 Elite. Its nice so i am still pondering it lol.
NGL, but when you put the glass on the end of the box when showing off the tints, my anxiety shot up 😅. My 2 cents, since you feel like you are late to the fish bowls lol. How about a cableless full custom water loop pc?! Cant say you have seen too many of those yet. It's ok to retire the old inwin. The memory on the unique journey to get that case will always be in our memories 😂
That was one of the craziest days because it was like right before covid hit, the crazy wheeling and dealing we both did. Was a great time man. Never forget the Nigerian price PC aspect either haha.
Good timing on this video. I just swapped out my personal case as well from a phanteks enthoo pro to the nzxt H6 Flow(black). The msi gaming trio/x 4090 card just barely fits in the phanteks but comfortably fits in the h6 flow. The 12v cord is bit closer but still allows for the bend to be really far away from the plug. All noctua chromax too but Im thinking about ordering a printed 4090 shroud for the msi trio version to make it a noctua 4090 to match
That's something I actually didn't think about with this open case. There's definitely a lot of cases that have issues fitting the cable. Who makes a shroud? Also... Love the Noctua look.
How i feel repopulating the Corsair 1000D with Lian li uni fans 8x120m upfront 2x120m in back 6x 140m on the 420 aio Replaced 16x Gentle Typhhons. I didnt realize how difficult it was every time i think im ready to build i need another peice and gota wait another week lol. If i had a open case id do another winter mod where i live and build a Funnel system -50c winds direct into case with some moisture capture techniques. Worked beautifully on my old 7980Xe rig delidded liquid metaled and oced to 4.8ghz on all cores with a Direct Die mod.
@@techwandoUS I actually got it from a world record over gunslinger way back in day I'm actually going to repurpose it as my render rig 128gb DDR 4 Asus WS Sage and a ton of Tesla cards for ai upscaling. Ty for showing off these relics sometimes company's cook and move forward lose there way but damn I love the case you got there 👍
Any case needs space for airflow and FOR YOUR HANDS! im sick of calling my girl whenever i need to plug a tiny fan into a tiny port that's obstructed by my case. That's why im now looking at some fishtank cases to fix this issue and get better airflow MAYBE.
I am guessing they were going for something which sounds like "pain", but don't quote me on that. One thing I HATE about any case which needs assembly is what happens if you need to ship the computer somewhere? The box the PC case that came in is as useful as a 3D graphics accelerator card in running Darklight Conflict. I have to admit, for what it is, it is a good looking case. Definitely not for me, but it is good looking. Perhaps if it was orange or chrome orange it would look even better. By perhaps I mean as with everything else in life, definitely. I will tell you one thing man, as much as I like and respect you, our taste in PC builds (looks) couldn't be more different lol. Bless you man. To answer your question(s). Obviously due to personal taste, I wouldn't change from a more traditional case to this one, so between the two or even others and a similar to this case, I will always choose the "proper" one. The closed one that can be shipped, that can withstand an accidental hit and that it won't be filled with dust in the first 5 minutes. Regarding changing the inside hardware, as long as we are talking about your personal system, I guess it depends on when you plan on changing to the next generation of hardware which apparently is not THAT far away. If you are 100% change to the next one when that comes out (late this year, next year), I would stay with the current internals. Though as you know the 4090 I would never accept for both the power consumption and the risks associated with it. If as you mentioned you also have future content creation in mind, then I think the answer is quite clear. You need to get a Ryzen system. BUT, again for personal system I (and it is just me), never ever ever in my 30 years of owning IBM-PC compatibles liked keeping the same case when upgrading or building a new PC. Even the few times that I did, it always made me feel...dirty inside and just bored with it sooner than it should. I don't know if that makes sense and if deep down you are like that. To the other question, I don't really have any suggestion for a PC case for you. I wish I did. As I am sure I have mentioned before, not exactly in a position to get anything so more "window shopping" is not helping me lol. Plus, while I do have some PC cases "saved", all of them are quite old by now and I doubt you would be able to find them new, even if you liked them. Highly unlikely as mentioned before :p *5 minutes later* OK I am back with a small list of cases I saved, just in case I help you out a bit. Fractal Design Pop-Air Gaming Mini Tower (orange) Fractal Design Focus G Midi Tower (blue) Phanteks Evolv Shift XT Gaming Mini Tower (silver) Chieftec UK-02W-OP Midi Tower (white) Darkflash DK351 Gaming Midi Tower (white) Fractal Design Torrent Gaming Midi Tower (white) CoolerMaster Masterbox NR200P Gaming Mini Tower (orange) In Win 101 White In Win 303C White Be Quiet Pure Base 500DX Gaming Midi Tower (white/silver) Azza Apollo 430 Gaming Midi Tower (white+orange) Corsair iCUE 220T RGB Gaming Midi Tower (white+grey) NZXT H700 Nuka-Cola. (I am still kicking myself for not buying this when it was new and I had money) Alright, thank you for another good video. Good luck whatever you decide to do.
10 out of 10 comment right here haha. We definitely have some different styles, that being said I actually like the more industrial box look as well. I am a bit of a floater when it comes to design. Or like an all Noctua build, wood, retro... really anything tbh. You are totally right about the flat pack stuff too, makes the box completely unusable after the fact. Seems like most people say to save it for a Ryzen system, so I'll probably end up doing just that. Thank you for all the other case suggestions too, I actually love the Fractal Pop cases. Most of them I pick I have to think of what radiator support they have, most likely I'll be doing some kinda loop for at least the CPU to extract the most performance I can get from it.
I am a little late to the video, but????? you should give the Phanteks enthro Pro, or Pro 2 a whirl. Huge case and has allot of cooling for any testing. It is a beast but can hold 2 systems with great airflow in the correct configuration.
Solid suggestion, actually had the evolv X and older model evolv TG some years ago. Phanteks is great. I might actually be looking at the new inwin Dubili case in silver. Appreciate your input.
@@techwandoUS living in Detroit but originally from Portland, Oregon, and I can tell you for a fact that I'm running a Windows PC and an Android phone 🙂
@@Stormpriest Oh nice, Oregon is awesome. Detroit I have yet to visit. Also props to being the double master race haha. I have something to admit though. I did recently buy my fiance a MacBook Air M2 because it was such a good deal. Also, with the announcements of proton working on Mac, some of those Mac mini M2 M3 machines are going to be pretty cool for people who want to stay on Apple products. For me personally... I am PCMR for life haha.
I like the open air style case! I know the fish tanks in some designs have worse airflow but have you considered one? Such as the compact mid tower one from NZXT, the C5 from Antec, or the Montech ones? The 3500x from Corsair coming out this summer looks interesting.
I actually like the fish tanks haha, I just am too late to the game and they are so popular that I would be doing an injustice to the Inwin Tou 2.0 if I swapped it for something kinda (for lack of a better term) generic. The silver montech case does look different. Looking back at it though, I'm a little worried about the radiator space. Appreciate the comment Chris.
This is why I'm going to see if I can look at the MSI Pano in person as it looks easier to build in than the Zalman. The MSI also supports all types of MATX including back connect. This is great as I will probably go with back connect when I inevitably switch fully to AMD. I suspect I upgrade from my 13700k before I replace my 7900xt. The 7900xt is quite powerful and more than meets my needs and should for the next few years
Im more into gaming on desktop and it's not as if I'm currently streaming or creating content so Intel doesn't make sense. The cinebench numbers sold me on the 13700k (I am a PC hardware enthusiast) lol
The new case looks lovely. But a pc is a pc and not a work of art. I would only use these cases for low power parts that are silent even under load. There is no airflow over the motherboard, no fans pushing air to the parts. Besides this there is no isolation for noice. Something like a rtx 3080 or better already makes a ton of noice by itself. I think i would get annoyed with performance of parts and noice.
A lot of good points made here, the dust build up also... I think it's mostly for ease of swapping parts. I would also build a top mount for some fans, it would turn really custom pretty quickly. I think based on many comments, I'll probably wait to use Ryzen and start a new PC in that case or something new. As for noise, I am in the same boat. Silence is everything.
a Pc case which can be upgradable for the next 10 years maybe? Priority to a minimum of 6 Pcie slots for 6x RTX4090 one day? (in 5 years when they are cheap, affording 5 more will be easy? and it will be the norm ?.... enough ram slots to do 1 TB Ram?..... superquite cooling?...... Minimum of 6 Thunderbolt 4 ports? .... Would such PC cases actually even exist now?
@@techwandoUS at the end of the day..meant to do LLMs , to be precise, LIM Large Image Models... .. saw one with 4 A100s in it, 80k $ , and a obligatory 10k$ service yearly contract which is mandatory for that "home" supercomputer otherwise they wont even sell it to you ... i believe we are ll going in that direction with Gen Ai right now... multiple parallel graphic cards might be faster and cheaper, than expensive single ones like the a100 or the H100 cards etc etc. => hence my question think for the 5 year into the future kind of PC Housing. upgrading cheap and easy instead of buying a new one in 5 years.
Lol even I want to help with something like Cooler Master 130 Elite form factor with 3 3.5" HDD support around the same size. Cant fine any apart from it and Node 304
@@techwandoUS so humble of you to reply.Thanks! btw I will be building my 6th system soon but I am bored of fish tank and standard case form factor. Maybe you should try something new entirely as you are not limited by HDD like me :) Some suggestions would be open cases like Xtia, pillar cases like Ncore max, test bench style, DIY style or whacky ones like shoe and shark cases from CM. Or how about a trip to memory lane with the top of the line like Corsair 760T, CM Stryker etc
@@hertgsesrht3499 Absolutely, those are all really good suggestions. I am familiar with most of them. I just reached out to Raj about the Paene case to see if they are still producing their add on parts, if not I'll definitely run down that list you gave me. Appreciate it.
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Personally, I say definitely make the switch. I have always been interested in those wall mount style cases. Bitwit built his personal rig in a similar case and mounted it on the wall a while back. I think it had a 6900XT or a 6950XT. It looked really good. Otherwise, I would suggest the Tower 300, but it seems like you like bigger cases. In that case, you could do the Tower 500 or the Tower 900 and do a dual loop. Also, Thermaltake has the Core P3 TG Pro which is a similar ish style to what you are considering.
Thanks Erock, yeah I remember that bitwit build. Specifically the video about the failing Phanteks PSU he had (ran into something similar with a customer).
The p3 is cool, just a very popular case which I am sorta tryna avoid haha.
That Inwin Tou case, they only made 500 😬
Montech case looks nice, think it would look nice with some white lights, kinda like a frosted look but not to bright, instead of rgb.
Yeah, I really like that case. Hopefully they drop soon, and it doesn't disappear, or end up in Asian markets only.
Thermaltake has the core P6 and the core p8.
I have the core p8 which is freaking massive! No seriously, it weighs 50 lb with nothing in it.
The P6 however, is more contemporary sized.
The reason why I bring them up is one of their options for setup is a open air wall mounted system. I didn't do that, but it's one of the options available with it
How long before we get some manufacturer capable of drilling holes in TG so when you mount a GPU vertically it isn't pushing hot air against glass with 1mm clearance.
Thanks man, yeah I have used a few of those. I built the P90 one for a customer once, that thing was nuts.
Can't go wrong with the aesthetics that an open case bring. Likely would build in one myself when I do build my next computer. It just has the type of feel a system would have when in the hands of someone versed into tech 👀. I say go for it if it isn't any trouble!
Appreciate the comment, and yeah sorta my thoughts too. Also the ease of use,. swapping cards, memory, etc. Just gotta keep blowing the dust off is all! Haha
Nice man, I found this after we talked last night and I asked you what case you had lol...I am still on the fence abotu the NZXT H9 Elite. Its nice so i am still pondering it lol.
I love the open case! I would wait and build a new system for it
I think you're probably right. Appreciate the input!
NGL, but when you put the glass on the end of the box when showing off the tints, my anxiety shot up 😅.
My 2 cents, since you feel like you are late to the fish bowls lol. How about a cableless full custom water loop pc?! Cant say you have seen too many of those yet.
It's ok to retire the old inwin. The memory on the unique journey to get that case will always be in our memories 😂
That was one of the craziest days because it was like right before covid hit, the crazy wheeling and dealing we both did.
Was a great time man.
Never forget the Nigerian price PC aspect either haha.
Good timing on this video. I just swapped out my personal case as well from a phanteks enthoo pro to the nzxt H6 Flow(black). The msi gaming trio/x 4090 card just barely fits in the phanteks but comfortably fits in the h6 flow. The 12v cord is bit closer but still allows for the bend to be really far away from the plug. All noctua chromax too but Im thinking about ordering a printed 4090 shroud for the msi trio version to make it a noctua 4090 to match
That's something I actually didn't think about with this open case. There's definitely a lot of cases that have issues fitting the cable. Who makes a shroud? Also... Love the Noctua look.
@@techwandoUS I found a listing for a 3d printed one off etsy lol for 25$
Not gunna lie, didn't even know this existed
How i feel repopulating the Corsair 1000D with Lian li uni fans 8x120m upfront 2x120m in back 6x 140m on the 420 aio Replaced 16x Gentle Typhhons.
I didnt realize how difficult it was every time i think im ready to build i need another peice and gota wait another week lol. If i had a open case id do another winter mod where i live and build a Funnel system -50c winds direct into case with some moisture capture techniques. Worked beautifully on my old 7980Xe rig delidded liquid metaled and oced to 4.8ghz on all cores with a Direct Die mod.
The 1000D is a such a crazy case. Also props on having the 7980XE at one point. Loves first gen X299.
@@techwandoUS I actually got it from a world record over gunslinger way back in day I'm actually going to repurpose it as my render rig 128gb DDR 4 Asus WS Sage and a ton of Tesla cards for ai upscaling. Ty for showing off these relics sometimes company's cook and move forward lose there way but damn I love the case you got there 👍
Any case needs space for airflow and FOR YOUR HANDS! im sick of calling my girl whenever i need to plug a tiny fan into a tiny port that's obstructed by my case. That's why im now looking at some fishtank cases to fix this issue and get better airflow MAYBE.
Haha great point, what case are you currently running?
I am guessing they were going for something which sounds like "pain", but don't quote me on that.
One thing I HATE about any case which needs assembly is what happens if you need to ship the computer somewhere? The box the PC case that came in is as useful as a 3D graphics accelerator card in running Darklight Conflict.
I have to admit, for what it is, it is a good looking case. Definitely not for me, but it is good looking. Perhaps if it was orange or chrome orange it would look even better. By perhaps I mean as with everything else in life, definitely.
I will tell you one thing man, as much as I like and respect you, our taste in PC builds (looks) couldn't be more different lol.
Bless you man.
To answer your question(s).
Obviously due to personal taste, I wouldn't change from a more traditional case to this one, so between the two or even others and a similar to this case, I will always choose the "proper" one. The closed one that can be shipped, that can withstand an accidental hit and that it won't be filled with dust in the first 5 minutes.
Regarding changing the inside hardware, as long as we are talking about your personal system, I guess it depends on when you plan on changing to the next generation of hardware which apparently is not THAT far away. If you are 100% change to the next one when that comes out (late this year, next year), I would stay with the current internals. Though as you know the 4090 I would never accept for both the power consumption and the risks associated with it.
If as you mentioned you also have future content creation in mind, then I think the answer is quite clear. You need to get a Ryzen system.
BUT, again for personal system I (and it is just me), never ever ever in my 30 years of owning IBM-PC compatibles liked keeping the same case when upgrading or building a new PC. Even the few times that I did, it always made me feel...dirty inside and just bored with it sooner than it should. I don't know if that makes sense and if deep down you are like that.
To the other question, I don't really have any suggestion for a PC case for you. I wish I did. As I am sure I have mentioned before, not exactly in a position to get anything so more "window shopping" is not helping me lol. Plus, while I do have some PC cases "saved", all of them are quite old by now and I doubt you would be able to find them new, even if you liked them. Highly unlikely as mentioned before :p
*5 minutes later*
OK I am back with a small list of cases I saved, just in case I help you out a bit.
Fractal Design Pop-Air Gaming Mini Tower (orange)
Fractal Design Focus G Midi Tower (blue)
Phanteks Evolv Shift XT Gaming Mini Tower (silver)
Chieftec UK-02W-OP Midi Tower (white)
Darkflash DK351 Gaming Midi Tower (white)
Fractal Design Torrent Gaming Midi Tower (white)
CoolerMaster Masterbox NR200P Gaming Mini Tower (orange)
In Win 101 White
In Win 303C White
Be Quiet Pure Base 500DX Gaming Midi Tower (white/silver)
Azza Apollo 430 Gaming Midi Tower (white+orange)
Corsair iCUE 220T RGB Gaming Midi Tower (white+grey)
NZXT H700 Nuka-Cola. (I am still kicking myself for not buying this when it was new and I had money)
Alright, thank you for another good video. Good luck whatever you decide to do.
10 out of 10 comment right here haha. We definitely have some different styles, that being said I actually like the more industrial box look as well. I am a bit of a floater when it comes to design. Or like an all Noctua build, wood, retro...
really anything tbh.
You are totally right about the flat pack stuff too, makes the box completely unusable after the fact.
Seems like most people say to save it for a Ryzen system, so I'll probably end up doing just that.
Thank you for all the other case suggestions too, I actually love the Fractal Pop cases.
Most of them I pick I have to think of what radiator support they have, most likely I'll be doing some kinda loop for at least the CPU to extract the most performance I can get from it.
I am a little late to the video, but????? you should give the Phanteks enthro Pro, or Pro 2 a whirl. Huge case and has allot of cooling for any testing. It is a beast but can hold 2 systems with great airflow in the correct configuration.
Solid suggestion, actually had the evolv X and older model evolv TG some years ago. Phanteks is great. I might actually be looking at the new inwin Dubili case in silver.
Appreciate your input.
gotta for that AMD HHHHYZEN!! TUF GT 301 is my case and i love it.
HYZEN the German CPU....
And yeah that's a solid case, used it in a few customer builds.
Side note, Massachusetts? I don't know why that surprised me but, I thought you were in California for some reason
California? Do Californians have computers which are not Apple? (based on all the TV shows as I am not American)
Yessir, Boston is about 20 minutes from me.
Haha, they are definitely apple fans out there. Silicon valley is out there too.
@@techwandoUS living in Detroit but originally from Portland, Oregon, and I can tell you for a fact that I'm running a Windows PC and an Android phone 🙂
@@Stormpriest Oh nice, Oregon is awesome. Detroit I have yet to visit. Also props to being the double master race haha. I have something to admit though. I did recently buy my fiance a MacBook Air M2 because it was such a good deal. Also, with the announcements of proton working on Mac, some of those Mac mini M2 M3 machines are going to be pretty cool for people who want to stay on Apple products. For me personally... I am PCMR for life haha.
I like the open air style case! I know the fish tanks in some designs have worse airflow but have you considered one? Such as the compact mid tower one from NZXT, the C5 from Antec, or the Montech ones? The 3500x from Corsair coming out this summer looks interesting.
Never mind you dont like those lol. The silver Montech one you showed looks nice
I actually like the fish tanks haha, I just am too late to the game and they are so popular that I would be doing an injustice to the Inwin Tou 2.0 if I swapped it for something kinda (for lack of a better term) generic. The silver montech case does look different. Looking back at it though, I'm a little worried about the radiator space. Appreciate the comment Chris.
This is why I'm going to see if I can look at the MSI Pano in person as it looks easier to build in than the Zalman. The MSI also supports all types of MATX including back connect. This is great as I will probably go with back connect when I inevitably switch fully to AMD. I suspect I upgrade from my 13700k before I replace my 7900xt. The 7900xt is quite powerful and more than meets my needs and should for the next few years
Im more into gaming on desktop and it's not as if I'm currently streaming or creating content so Intel doesn't make sense. The cinebench numbers sold me on the 13700k (I am a PC hardware enthusiast) lol
@@Chris_94 The power is always there if you change your mind 😉
The new case looks lovely. But a pc is a pc and not a work of art. I would only use these cases for low power parts that are silent even under load. There is no airflow over the motherboard, no fans pushing air to the parts. Besides this there is no isolation for noice. Something like a rtx 3080 or better already makes a ton of noice by itself. I think i would get annoyed with performance of parts and noice.
A lot of good points made here, the dust build up also...
I think it's mostly for ease of swapping parts. I would also build a top mount for some fans, it would turn really custom pretty quickly.
I think based on many comments, I'll probably wait to use Ryzen and start a new PC in that case or something new.
As for noise, I am in the same boat. Silence is everything.
a Pc case which can be upgradable for the next 10 years maybe? Priority to a minimum of 6 Pcie slots for 6x RTX4090 one day? (in 5 years when they are cheap, affording 5 more will be easy? and it will be the norm ?.... enough ram slots to do 1 TB Ram?..... superquite cooling?...... Minimum of 6 Thunderbolt 4 ports? .... Would such PC cases actually even exist now?
Sounds like a mining rig
@@techwandoUS at the end of the day..meant to do LLMs , to be precise, LIM Large Image Models... .. saw one with 4 A100s in it, 80k $ , and a obligatory 10k$ service yearly contract which is mandatory for that "home" supercomputer otherwise they wont even sell it to you ... i believe we are ll going in that direction with Gen Ai right now... multiple parallel graphic cards might be faster and cheaper, than expensive single ones like the a100 or the H100 cards etc etc. => hence my question think for the 5 year into the future kind of PC Housing. upgrading cheap and easy instead of buying a new one in 5 years.
Lol even I want to help with something like Cooler Master 130 Elite form factor with 3 3.5" HDD support around the same size. Cant fine any apart from it and Node 304
You still have a lot of full size 3.5s?
Makes sense
@@techwandoUS so humble of you to reply.Thanks! btw I will be building my 6th system soon but I am bored of fish tank and standard case form factor. Maybe you should try something new entirely as you are not limited by HDD like me :) Some suggestions would be open cases like Xtia, pillar cases like Ncore max, test bench style, DIY style or whacky ones like shoe and shark cases from CM. Or how about a trip to memory lane with the top of the line like Corsair 760T, CM Stryker etc
@@hertgsesrht3499 Absolutely, those are all really good suggestions. I am familiar with most of them. I just reached out to Raj about the Paene case to see if they are still producing their add on parts, if not I'll definitely run down that list you gave me. Appreciate it.
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Switch it up! But also pick up Ryzen
That's the plan
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