The only thing holding the iPad back is its own OS. It’s incredible performance for its form factor. Considering the touchscreen capabilities and accessories, it has the most potential to bridge MacBook and iMac as a ‘everything product’ offering. iPad is a few steps from being your laptop, desktop and tablet.. but ipadOS refuses to give it full functionality. MacOS on an iPad would most likely make products like MacBook Air a hard sell. The Apple approach is: separate products and features -> make products work better together -> buy them all and be happy So I agree, it’s a Ferrari engine in a scooter. The device is fine, its the OS
@@Skoshmanexactly. that’s why it’s hard to leave Apple ecosystem once u r in. it’s like a life time slavery. it’s like i know i will need to update my devices once M4 macbooks and new watches drop.
I’m convinced that the strategy going forward is to have Pro lines getting the most recent M while Air/Mini lines get the previous gen, they just haven’t figured out the timing for releases yet.
Well there are still cars with just 2 doors, and even if you think all cars need 4 doors, not everybody need that.. you can choose when you buy it, or are you cry a lot about the 2 doors cars too, when you want to buy a new car, or just ignore it, and simply check the model with double amount of doors..?
@@TamasKiss-yk4stthanks for the most stupid comment and analogy I read today. Don’t ever try to comment on technical stuff you know nothing about it… you won’t fool anyone, and we will right away laugh at you. Pseudo intelligence only works amongst the fools…
@@TamasKiss-yk4stwow apple sheep really will take anything from their masters. My brother in Christ, having 8gb of ram is the equivalent of buying the latest car model with the price to match it being the latest model, only to find your interior is from 2012. 8 gb is nowhere near the normal amount needed now, if they want to offer suboptimal specs they better be charging suboptimal prices. Someone needs to stop taking it up the you know what and being happy about it lol.
Odd because the M3 chip is great! The development team at Apple just moves too fast. Consumers cannot simmer in product joy long enough before another faster and better model is produced by Apple.
I would say that after launching AI features on WWDC Apple is going to implement them into new M4 macs as soon as possible, so I guess macs gonna be upgrade with M4 family of chips definitely this year. All of them.
I’ve decided I’m ignoring all benchmarks and basing purchase decisions on whether or not my current Mac or iPad is meeting my performance needs. The M5 and M6 or Mxx will always be coming. If it ain’t broke do I need to fix it?
yes, I think that’s how you should probably look at everything when it comes to everything in life let alone tech. Benchmarks are for people on TH-cam that need clicks and I completely get it. I have worked with them not bad people, but that’s what it’s for if you buy a computer, and it does what you need it to do. The benchmark is beyond irrelevant.
People regret their purchases cause they buy them out of hype instead of need. If they needed the product, they wouldn't regret it, they had no choice, they needed the product at the time.
Same philosophy, i still use a base m1 air and it's more than enough for me. I will buy a new one when the security support runs out and then probably buy the actual base model air while the current one will be using linux until it's turning on.
Is Gurman working for Apple? We know he's not always right. It makes no sense that Mini, Studio and Pro will get M4 in 2025 (!) H2 (!). When these Macs are low volume Macs. Here's the thing.... the yearly volume of all products: iPhone ~220 million units IPads ~60 million units Macs ~22 million units For iPhone probably 160 million will have the latest chip. For Macs, more than 80% should be MacBooks so ~18 million. How many iPad Pro is Apple sellinh per year? iPad Pro should be a minority on yearly basis but sell very good in the launch quarter. For MacBooks we know that Air is the best selling, then comes the "fake Pro" model. This is the BIG volume. The true Pro models are not seling THAT good. The most important product is iPhone. 50% of the yearly volume for the latest iPhone is sold much faster than 50% of the year. That's why Apple could release MBP M3 and iMac M3 at Halloween 2023 and that's why MacBook Air M3 had to wait to march 2024. So for iPhone 16 (new N3E process) it's a new thing. IPhone is no longer first with the latest process. So how is Apple thinking this time? We know that N3E will have much bigger volumes than N3B (M3 and A17). Apple got room for a few low-volume products with N3E before iPhone16. We just saw iPad Pro M4. Apple is selling only ~4 million desktop Macs per year (1 million per quarter) where iMac is probably a big player. iMac and Mac Mini combined are doing probably much more than 50% of the desktop volume. Mac Studio and Pro combined are doing 150k/quarter in volume? That's only 50k units per month. Compare this to the latest iPhone that's selling ~13 millions per month in average and much more the first months and less than that the latest months so 15-20 millions per month the first 2 months? So the BIG question: how much room is there for more M4 (N3E) product launches before iPhone 16? We know that new iMac, MacBook Air and MacBook Fake-Pro are out of the question. Probably also Mac Mini. MacBook True Pro, Mac Studio and Mac Pro are the lower volumes and especially Mac Studio and Mac Pro (Tower and Rack). So this is why there is a realistic chance for Mac Studio M4 and Mac Pro M4 at WWDC 2024. I don't say it will happen but IF we will see any new N3E (M4 and A18) based products it will def be Mac Studio and Mac Pro. Apple don't need two years to try to techically fit M4 into Studio and Pro after the M2 models when Apple did it at 1 1/2 years for iPad Pro and the real reason was when TSMC was ready. I need a Mac Studio and I hope for M4 at WWDC 2024! If there's no Studio M4 at WWDC 2024 then I have to think of how I gonna do with buying a new Mac. M3 Max got no "Dual M3 Max connector" so Apple never planned M3 for Studio and Pro. Apple is probably doing the chip design 1-2 years ahead of the release. And they have to send the design to TSMC very early. TSMC probably had the M4 design before that "Scary Fast" event at Halloween 2023. Mass production for N3E started in 2023 Q4 according to TSMC themselves. They probably already are making a lot of A18 chips now so Apple can build up a huge inventory of that one. We also know that N3E got much better volumes than N3B. So let's wait and see how Apple will do: how Apple will roll out all products based on N3E. May 2024: iPad Pro M4 June 2024: MAYBE Studio+Pro M4 Sep 2024: iPhone 16 A18 Fall 2024: probably MBP M4 and iMac M4 and IPad Mini A18 Spring 2024: probably Mac Mini M4 and iPhone SE 4 (A18) WWDC 2025: probably AVP M4 Fall 2025 and beyond: iPad Air M4, iPad A18 Apple got a lot of N3E based products in the pipeline. Where will they fit Studio M4 and Pro M4? Honestly WWDC 2024 is the most likely. I'm not a "Gurman 2" or so. I'm just saying what's likely/logical. And remember, in 2025 H2, Studio M2 and Pro M2 are more than 2 years old (launched in june 2023). That's not logical... that's embarrasing.
I’m waiting for the new M4 Mac Mini and Mac Studio hopefully next month at WWDC. It’s going to be an INSANE upgrade for me persona-lly, moving from a decade old Windows to Mac for the first time… can’t wait!
M4 Mac mini would make for a nice Entertainment/ Office Mac in my living room . I’m currently using a M1 MacBook Air that basically handles everything I want without breaking a sweat.
still on an M1 Max here. the way i look at it, i got a great update from where i was previously (a horrendous intel macbook pro), and every time they take a nice big jump it just means i'll get an even better machine whenever i upgrade next.
After comparing my iPad Pro M1 to the M4 version, honestly it actually aged very well due to the ultrawide camera on my iPad pro m1 version and the M1 chip is still a powerful chip from the M Chip Apple Silicon series, so I'll just wait for the MacBook Pro M4s
If you're feeling bad about upgrading to the M3 MBP so soon, I got my M2 MBP in early October. Literally the announcement was just a couple days after the return period. I mean I'm fine with it, but wish I'd waited just a bit.
I think Gurman is wrong and new mac studio and mac pro are comming in wwdc next month, with m4 ultra chips and a possible absurd m4 extreme for the mac pro.
I really hope they update Mac Studio and Mac mini at wwdc with m4/pro/max chips first. Then update the laptops in the fall. that way people who have purchased m3 pro/max devices get at least a year before the new models come out.
Apple is selling less and less laptops these days - the incremental upgrades aren't worth the money. That's why they compare the M4 to the M2 - 50% more performance is the draw to those who can't read between the lines. Macbooks will come first.
We all know there won't be any new M3 based products, cause old 3.5nm manufacturing process is too expensive. New M4 real 3nm is giving them better yields ... so anything new is M4.
Apple already has the next 2 or 3 generation of CPUs prepared…it’s not like they achieved the M4 performance now. This M3 skip release was strategical for several reasons (competitors, AI focus, sales dropping, ecosystem advancement, and so on)
I agree with you, but the most important thing about M3 is that, it's manufactured with the custom made N3B technology, it was only a temporaly technology which was way more expensive like the recent N3E standard technology in the M4. So logical to move to the cheaper manufacturin when it's ready (and N3B and N3E are not compatible, so required a full redesign on the chip, so it would be a wast to redesign the M3 again to N3E)
I am so excited for the next chapter in Apples evolution. Thanks for making constant interesting Apple content Greg. Been a huge fan for years. I would love to see the option to have a Mac OS hybrid in the iPad. That would be a game changer.
So did 2 weeks ago I and spent a pretty penny on it. But the thing is we bought these Mac’s for multi core not single core, and given how much the M3 Max heats up under full load I doubt they can really push the core count higher especially for efficiency cores. For me a 15% performance hit is more than worth the 6 months waiting time for the M4 Max. As per the single core, even my old M1 still feels snappy AF.
As a purchaser of the M4 256gb version, I am INFURIATED that they’ve binned the CPU cores. *How am I going to watch Netflix, and browse Amazon effectively now with all 10 cores?*
M3 is a really good chip, depends on what you plan to use the computer for? If it's Motion graphics, video editing, then an M3 max or M3 pro is fine. The highest has the fastest exports. If you're planning on doing 3D work, then maybe wait for the M4 chip because it might optimize the ray tracing and probably work better than the M3 ray tracing. Also if price is a concern, then getting a discounted M3 is better since you'll get a higher chip for cheaper, but if price isn't an issue then just wait to see what M4 offers, and wait for the specs from TH-camrs to see if it's 3D is a big difference versus M3.
@@wolfx23heyy dude i want to buy mackbook for 3d animation video editing with great effects like those anime related channel and goji center do it in his videos plus i also want to create music beats should i wait for m4pro? Or go for m3air 16/512 my budget is quite tight currently so i could only go for air but by m4 time i think i could go with pro one whats ur opinion?
Do you need it now? If yes, get it. If you can hold out, wait for an M4 machine that meets your needs. It is clearly faster and will have more longevity because the M4 has ARM V9.
As someone with a work laptop with a M2 Max I am not sad. My work won’t upgrade my computer until 2025 or 2026. However I would really like to get a M4 or M4 Pro Mac Mini this year.
The 3nm N3E is a new node, so the yield is lower than expected. You'll need to launch the lesser models first since they can include binned chipsets. A Mac Studio will only have non-binned chipsets, so they probably need to wait for the yield to improve. Yield and cost per unit are directly correlated as Apple pays for the wafer, so Apple has to maximise each wafer to keep the cost per unit down.
Those performance gains depend on how apps use the cores, like Apple Logic Pro only uses the performance core so more efficiently cores isn't going to benefit Logic. I'm hoping for M4 Max chips to show up this year and since Gurman's track record hasn't been that good the last year I'll wait for WWDC to get an idea whats coming.
It’s crazy. I bought an M1 max the day they came out. October 2021. Fully loaded. Still runs like the day it was new, and I think I have so much headroom. I’ll never know what to do with all of it. The M4 lineup doesn’t even phase me at this point
Thank you, for your comments Greg on this post. It appears, the M-3 processor is being used by Apple, Inc. as more of a stop-gap chip. So, the only desktop it will be used on is Apple's 24-inch iMac which, of course missed out on the M-2 processor. However, this does give me hope (and development time for Apple) for a newly designed "space gray" 30-inch iMac Pro with a M-4 pro chip and an M-4 max chip in the Fall of 2025 or the Spring of 2026. When the M-1 desktops were introduced, I decided to wait until 2025, to buy my first M series processor Apple desktop. It now appears that was a very wise decision (smile...smile)
Highly unlikely that Apple will release a larger iMac again,especially a Pro version.They have even said that they have no plans to release a larger iMac again.
I think Apple should cap the M4-7 Max memory at 256 gb which is a lot I know. They should get rid of the 8 gb memory on the M4 for Mac and make lower memory an IPad thing. I also see Apple going for 16 tb storage on the Mac Studio and Mac Pro. Maybe the M4 Extreme comes out next year……
pro tip with apple, buy at most every second update. the M2 was basically the M1 but better, it was a similar chip, while the M3 was a new chip design with 3nm. the M4 is probably just gonna be a better more worked out M3 same with iPhone. the iPhone 12 mini had a short battery life and the other 12s had some minor things about them that the iPhone 13 fixed. you can tell by the designs too. the iPhone x and iPhone 11 have a similar look, the iPhone 12 and 13 have a similar look. except one of them is just a little bit better. any issues the M3 has will be worked out with the M4 and watch, the M5 will be a completely different chip that will likely have some issues that the M6 will solve
I am old school and every x-years I do a decent upgrade;, circumstances have been such that I started a replacement cycle 3 years ago and now find myself sharing an M2 Studio; I have been anticipating an M3 studio ‘any day now’; so 😢thank you for the great news;😢 - I am not disappointed, I am shaken up by your bad news!!
Experts suggest five million M4 iPad Pros sold in 2024, which is very high, bearing in mind the cost and maturity of the tablet market. That is revenue of $7.5 billion-plus before accessories!
I'm not sure about what mark German said about the release date because by WWDC 2025, the M3 chips need to stop. My prediction: Mac mini, Mac pro and Mac studio in WWDC 2024, MacBook pros in October, iMac and MacBook air in March 2025
I'm going to stick with my M3 Pro MBP 14. I just got it, and upgrading won't be worth it (for my use case anyway). If Apple releases an upgraded iPad mini I'll jump on one of those though.
The M3 is a killer chip and my M# MBA is awesome. I don't regret getting it at all (Well, I kind of had to as my M1 MBA was stolen). There is always something with upgraded speed or features around the corner. Enjoy what you have and get what you need when you need it. It will be a few years before I need to upgrade this fine laptop, but it's still fun to see the gains.
Do not forget that regular iPad will get 9 core version which can have similar performance as M3. and you have to shell 1599 to the get cheapest 10 core. still 11" :) and 1899 for 13". So enjoy your M3 Air long.
I think there is a change in the marketing strategy with releasing the M4 in the Pro iPad and also in the desktop versions first. Then the MacBooks later - for a trickle down approach, rather than the bottom up approach. Once a M4 Ultra, Max, or Pro version is in a desktop, M2/3 MacBook owners will jump at the new chip. Oh, let's not forget a possible M4 Extreme chip for only the Mac Pro to justify the cost and for high end developers/studios who eat these things up like bar peanuts. This approach makes sense to me and will sell more devices rather than keep the high end users waiting so long.
No, I legit feel scammed for getting an M3 air. Most likely they won't upgrade the air until late next year, potentially with an M5. Still, was hoping to have cutting edge apple silicon for at least like 6 months...
You ll probably never test the limit of your MacBook Air M3 chip. It’s the feeling of having the best shiniest thing, chill. I’m doing data analysis and programming on m2 pro Mac mini, never even came close to being slow.
@@christosmachilai8804 I have to say, the M2 Pro mini is very much a sweet spot. I have no desire to get an M4 as my workflow is more than handled by my mini. If you NEED an M4, all is well and good. The only thing I can see that might make a difference is, depending on how they implement it, the AI integration.
I want an M4 Mac Studio with a minimum of 192GB RAM and 76+ GPU cores. This computer will be used for running a private AI with massive LLMs. I would buy one today if it was available. If necessary, then I'll purchase an M3 Mac Studio this year and an M4 version next year.
Very interesting about the power of M4, didn't expect this. I guess if the m4 Macs have oled screen, it might be a bit more lighter than now, which will be great.
I just bought an M3 max MBP, and I'm happy with it. BUT - my return window closes on June 11...WWDC starts on June 10. if they announce new MBPs there...I might return just so that I'm as future proof as possible..but, I'm not losing sleep over it..
If Apple is looking for low-volume products to ramp up M4 production, you would think they could release the M4 And M4 Pro Mac Mini, the M4 Max and M4 Ultra Mac Studio, and M4 Ultra Mac Pro at WWDC, because those ARE low volume products. By the way, I’ve said it before: the Mac Pro should have been designed with four motherboard slots to accommodate four M4 Ultra SOCs, or possibly eight M4 Ultra SoCs ( two SoCs per daughterboard). That would have really made the Mac Pro a flagship product (and blown the doors off of Tower Intel or AMD PCs).
My Bachelor's of Computer applications Course is starting from July so what should I buy m3 pro macbook pro or wait for m4 pro macbook pro or other laptop with snapdragon x elite ?
I need a new MBP M_ Pro. It's June '24. I need the laptop Now, but if I'm spending $3k (16" M3Max 36/1TB), I would love spend that cash on the M4 instead. So... how can I buy something today, use it for 4 months, return it and then buy my "real" forever machine? Buy a 512gb SSD docking station and buy machines from Amazon and return them within 90 days until the same 16" M4pro is launched and then buy from Apple? Any suggestions that are less shady would be appreciated.
m4 max might actually be a significant jump for the first time in the M series. Dont get me wrong the M series is impressive, but the WOW factor of M2 and M3 were not that much over the initial release.
Apple is probably sitting on the M5, M6, M7 and M8 and Tim is giggling at the speculations of TH-camrs. It used to be called Kremlin Watching. Speculation without information.
Compare the pace of CPU and GPU improvements now to when they were stuck using Intel 14nm chips for an eternity. If Apple had not made the switch to an house design we would be living in dark times.
Hoping we see a spec bump for Mac Studio very soon, the current gen is very capable as-is, but for the investment it feels like buying into an M2 this year isn't where I want to be.
I find it hard to believe and understand if Apple won't release the M4 Studio and Pro at WWDC '24. Are we to go another half year with M2? At that point, why not soft release the M3? Seem more perplexing to have the M2 through 2024 than it would to release the M3 after the M4 announcement.
I have no info, but it does seem reasonable that Apple is designing more for the M series chips and working back to the A series chips. I think that we will see an M4 based studio and Pro before we see the airs updated. I have my doubts about the Gurman timeline. Time will tell. But when we look at how aggressive Apple is with the iPad, it seems that they will be more aggressive on the Mac than Gurman is predicting.
Apple is not their competition despite what they want you to think. Nobody will cross shop Macs and PCs or even iPads and Android tablets. Besides they will have more than enough to worry about with app developer support, compatibility and driver issues, all sorts of random products that will have first gen teething issues, etc. Trying to move the world off x86 to a new architecture has been tried many times in the past and the road is covered with bodies. Apple made it look easy because the tight vertical integration but Windows / Android will have no such luck.
Seems like Apple will have plenty of options available for entry-level products moving forward. The addition of M2 and M3 variants in future base MacBook Airs, Minis, iPads, Apple TV etc can offer buyers lower priced units will all the Apple panache, world class fit and finish and full ecosystem compatibility. I do wish that Apple would take a stronger run in gaining PC market share. It is an area where they room to grow.
Qualcomm's Snapdragon X Elite has way more potential because it's not stuck with Apple's crazy update cycle. Apple's chips have to carry the weight of their marketing history, while Qualcomm can just go where the tech takes them. Apple's biggest problem is that it's Apple, with all the marketing BS that comes with it.
Heck I just got my hands on a brand new 17 inch MacBook Pro, to replace my old broken 17 inch MacBook Pro, that was exactly the same as the 17 inch MacBook Pro, that replaced my 17 inch MacBook Pro after that broke, and it is AMAZING. I’m never looking back.
Apple is furiously working on how to pair an M4 processor with 4GB RAM. Then they could charge $400 to bring it up to 16GB. Magical and revolutionary!!
It's hard to get excited about a company that intentionally bottlenecks their products and force consumers to buy extras they don't need in order to get better workflow. Transparent corporate greed.
If Apple don’t update every year people complain. If they update within the year they complain. If it’s not powerful enough there are complains. If it’s too power they complain. Now I’m complaining!
Still using my M2 MacBook Pro 13" and I was going to get a 14" or 16" M3 Pro becasue more ports and I like the design but I think I'm going to stick to it until I can't
In the real world, you might find it being a bit snappier, but it does the same thing with the same OS. My experience with the M2 vs the M3 Pro wasn’t that different. I use my MBA on the go, and my MBP is my desktop solution and they both do the same work, and both “feel” the same. They are all pretty fast…
True, most users will not notice a difference apart from snappier interactions as you say. I am an M1 iPad Pro user and although a bit jealous of that OLED, mine still flies and does all I need and probably will do for another 3-5 years.
It’s exciting that M4 is released 😊 but in an iPad 😢 and my M3 MacBook Pro is only a few months old😢. But the M4 lineup isn’t coming til end of 2025 🤔. I don’t know what to feel about all this
@@PKperformanceEUWho said I’m a beginner? I regularly edit multiple layers of 4k Pro-Res video along with heavy effects in After Effects for client work.
The M4 can perform 38 TOPS of AI calculations but the Snapdragon X can do 45 TOPS. Apple said that it was the fastest AI processor available so I wonder how they are calculating it? Maybe Qualcomm are overstating their performance? Also the A17 Pro can already do 35 TOPS so seems like a lacklustre upgrade.
Ordered the 13” iPad Pro 2TB Wifi only model. Coming from an early 2020 11” iPad Pro with a A12Z I believe. I’ve been dealing with bad battery drain, and been needing a bigger screen for a while as well. I plan on moving from a 11” iPad and 13” Macbook Pro to a 13”/16” iPad/MBP. IPad is the first as it’s the most used.
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The M4 on an iPad is like having a Ferrari engine on a scooter.
🤣🤣
Its called future proofing my dude. You'll be glad to know that your scooter is faster than any other car in 4 years time.
The only thing holding the iPad back is its own OS.
It’s incredible performance for its form factor. Considering the touchscreen capabilities and accessories, it has the most potential to bridge MacBook and iMac as a ‘everything product’ offering.
iPad is a few steps from being your laptop, desktop and tablet.. but ipadOS refuses to give it full functionality. MacOS on an iPad would most likely make products like MacBook Air a hard sell.
The Apple approach is: separate products and features -> make products work better together -> buy them all and be happy
So I agree, it’s a Ferrari engine in a scooter. The device is fine, its the OS
As far as we know Tim The Accountant soon iPad will have Ultra Pro Max Ultimate Plus M20 chip.. and still on kidsOS.
@@Skoshmanexactly. that’s why it’s hard to leave Apple ecosystem once u r in. it’s like a life time slavery. it’s like i know i will need to update my devices once M4 macbooks and new watches drop.
I’m convinced that the strategy going forward is to have Pro lines getting the most recent M while Air/Mini lines get the previous gen, they just haven’t figured out the timing for releases yet.
M4 will launch with 8gb base for the Mac 😭😭😭
They need to make that at least 12GB.
Well there are still cars with just 2 doors, and even if you think all cars need 4 doors, not everybody need that.. you can choose when you buy it, or are you cry a lot about the 2 doors cars too, when you want to buy a new car, or just ignore it, and simply check the model with double amount of doors..?
@@TamasKiss-yk4stthanks for the most stupid comment and analogy I read today. Don’t ever try to comment on technical stuff you know nothing about it… you won’t fool anyone, and we will right away laugh at you. Pseudo intelligence only works amongst the fools…
@@TamasKiss-yk4stwow apple sheep really will take anything from their masters. My brother in Christ, having 8gb of ram is the equivalent of buying the latest car model with the price to match it being the latest model, only to find your interior is from 2012. 8 gb is nowhere near the normal amount needed now, if they want to offer suboptimal specs they better be charging suboptimal prices. Someone needs to stop taking it up the you know what and being happy about it lol.
Don't forget the $200 apple tax for 16 GB upgrade.
Only Apple can put the fastest consumer CPU in a tablet but at the same time they can’t develop an official iPad calculator app for it 😂
…or get Siri to work.
or run long background tasks
or develop on it
Well i guess two of these are wrong now🤷🏾♂️
Barely 9 months and the M3 is now outdated.
It’s not outdated dummy
It was just a stop gap. M4 is the real M3
It’s not outdated. New tech comes out all the time. Can’t expect it to stay the same.
@@michaelhall9146Apple is hurting its business. There's got to be a huge inventory of unsold M3 products.
Odd because the M3 chip is great! The development team at Apple just moves too fast. Consumers cannot simmer in product joy long enough before another faster and better model is produced by Apple.
I would say that after launching AI features on WWDC Apple is going to implement them into new M4 macs as soon as possible, so I guess macs gonna be upgrade with M4 family of chips definitely this year. All of them.
I hope so. Extremely powerful hardware is needed to run the largest LLMs at an acceptable level of tokens per second (T/s).
Don't lock in those dates for new Macs just yet from Gurman - his predictions have been known to change quite rapidly.
I’ve decided I’m ignoring all benchmarks and basing purchase decisions on whether or not my current Mac or iPad is meeting my performance needs. The M5 and M6 or Mxx will always be coming. If it ain’t broke do I need to fix it?
yes, I think that’s how you should probably look at everything when it comes to everything in life let alone tech. Benchmarks are for people on TH-cam that need clicks and I completely get it. I have worked with them not bad people, but that’s what it’s for if you buy a computer, and it does what you need it to do. The benchmark is beyond irrelevant.
People regret their purchases cause they buy them out of hype instead of need. If they needed the product, they wouldn't regret it, they had no choice, they needed the product at the time.
@@Manuel-rl6um yep
Same philosophy, i still use a base m1 air and it's more than enough for me. I will buy a new one when the security support runs out and then probably buy the actual base model air while the current one will be using linux until it's turning on.
Let’s hope Gurman is wrong, and the M4 Studio will come out this summer.
this is my biggest hope, I'm currently working with my base M1 mac mini until the M4 Ultra is announced
I’m waiting to upgrade my 12 year old setup to an M4 ultra too
Is Gurman working for Apple?
We know he's not always right.
It makes no sense that Mini, Studio and Pro will get M4 in 2025 (!) H2 (!). When these Macs are low volume Macs.
Here's the thing.... the yearly volume of all products:
iPhone ~220 million units
IPads ~60 million units
Macs ~22 million units
For iPhone probably 160 million will have the latest chip. For Macs, more than 80% should be MacBooks so ~18 million. How many iPad Pro is Apple sellinh per year? iPad Pro should be a minority on yearly basis but sell very good in the launch quarter.
For MacBooks we know that Air is the best selling, then comes the "fake Pro" model. This is the BIG volume. The true Pro models are not seling THAT good.
The most important product is iPhone. 50% of the yearly volume for the latest iPhone is sold much faster than 50% of the year. That's why Apple could release MBP M3 and iMac M3 at Halloween 2023 and that's why MacBook Air M3 had to wait to march 2024.
So for iPhone 16 (new N3E process) it's a new thing. IPhone is no longer first with the latest process. So how is Apple thinking this time? We know that N3E will have much bigger volumes than N3B (M3 and A17).
Apple got room for a few low-volume products with N3E before iPhone16. We just saw iPad Pro M4.
Apple is selling only ~4 million desktop Macs per year (1 million per quarter) where iMac is probably a big player. iMac and Mac Mini combined are doing probably much more than 50% of the desktop volume. Mac Studio and Pro combined are doing 150k/quarter in volume? That's only 50k units per month. Compare this to the latest iPhone that's selling ~13 millions per month in average and much more the first months and less than that the latest months so 15-20 millions per month the first 2 months?
So the BIG question: how much room is there for more M4 (N3E) product launches before iPhone 16? We know that new iMac, MacBook Air and MacBook Fake-Pro are out of the question. Probably also Mac Mini. MacBook True Pro, Mac Studio and Mac Pro are the lower volumes and especially Mac Studio and Mac Pro (Tower and Rack).
So this is why there is a realistic chance for Mac Studio M4 and Mac Pro M4 at WWDC 2024. I don't say it will happen but IF we will see any new N3E (M4 and A18) based products it will def be Mac Studio and Mac Pro.
Apple don't need two years to try to techically fit M4 into Studio and Pro after the M2 models when Apple did it at 1 1/2 years for iPad Pro and the real reason was when TSMC was ready.
I need a Mac Studio and I hope for M4 at WWDC 2024! If there's no Studio M4 at WWDC 2024 then I have to think of how I gonna do with buying a new Mac.
M3 Max got no "Dual M3 Max connector" so Apple never planned M3 for Studio and Pro. Apple is probably doing the chip design 1-2 years ahead of the release. And they have to send the design to TSMC very early. TSMC probably had the M4 design before that "Scary Fast" event at Halloween 2023. Mass production for N3E started in 2023 Q4 according to TSMC themselves. They probably already are making a lot of A18 chips now so Apple can build up a huge inventory of that one. We also know that N3E got much better volumes than N3B.
So let's wait and see how Apple will do: how Apple will roll out all products based on N3E.
May 2024: iPad Pro M4
June 2024: MAYBE Studio+Pro M4
Sep 2024: iPhone 16 A18
Fall 2024: probably MBP M4 and iMac M4 and IPad Mini A18
Spring 2024: probably Mac Mini M4 and iPhone SE 4 (A18)
WWDC 2025: probably AVP M4
Fall 2025 and beyond: iPad Air M4, iPad A18
Apple got a lot of N3E based products in the pipeline. Where will they fit Studio M4 and Pro M4? Honestly WWDC 2024 is the most likely. I'm not a "Gurman 2" or so. I'm just saying what's likely/logical.
And remember, in 2025 H2, Studio M2 and Pro M2 are more than 2 years old (launched in june 2023). That's not logical... that's embarrasing.
@@brunogaspar3977 kind of the same here. Got a Mac Pro 2008 since october 2008. Really need a Mac Studio and that old M2 is embarrasing...
Totally agreed, mid 2025 seems way too far out for a flagship like this to be left in M2 land.
I’m waiting for the new M4 Mac Mini and Mac Studio hopefully next month at WWDC. It’s going to be an INSANE upgrade for me persona-lly, moving from a decade old Windows to Mac for the first time… can’t wait!
M4 Mac mini would make for a nice Entertainment/ Office Mac in my living room . I’m currently using a M1 MacBook Air that basically handles everything I want without breaking a sweat.
still on an M1 Max here. the way i look at it, i got a great update from where i was previously (a horrendous intel macbook pro), and every time they take a nice big jump it just means i'll get an even better machine whenever i upgrade next.
After comparing my iPad Pro M1 to the M4 version, honestly it actually aged very well due to the ultrawide camera on my iPad pro m1 version and the M1 chip is still a powerful chip from the M Chip Apple Silicon series, so I'll just wait for the MacBook Pro M4s
If you're feeling bad about upgrading to the M3 MBP so soon, I got my M2 MBP in early October. Literally the announcement was just a couple days after the return period.
I mean I'm fine with it, but wish I'd waited just a bit.
I think Gurman is wrong and new mac studio and mac pro are comming in wwdc next month, with m4 ultra chips and a possible absurd m4 extreme for the mac pro.
Indeed. A Mac Mini too. In fact, the Mini and the Studio would make sense to be first. Then a killer Pro and refreshed MacBook Pro late in the year.
I really hope they update Mac Studio and Mac mini at wwdc with m4/pro/max chips first. Then update the laptops in the fall. that way people who have purchased m3 pro/max devices get at least a year before the new models come out.
Apple is selling less and less laptops these days - the incremental upgrades aren't worth the money. That's why they compare the M4 to the M2 - 50% more performance is the draw to those who can't read between the lines. Macbooks will come first.
We all know there won't be any new M3 based products, cause old 3.5nm manufacturing process is too expensive. New M4 real 3nm is giving them better yields ... so anything new is M4.
I wish Apple could find ways to save more money and give us a M5 this year.
Apple already has the next 2 or 3 generation of CPUs prepared…it’s not like they achieved the M4 performance now. This M3 skip release was strategical for several reasons (competitors, AI focus, sales dropping, ecosystem advancement, and so on)
I agree with you, but the most important thing about M3 is that, it's manufactured with the custom made N3B technology, it was only a temporaly technology which was way more expensive like the recent N3E standard technology in the M4. So logical to move to the cheaper manufacturin when it's ready (and N3B and N3E are not compatible, so required a full redesign on the chip, so it would be a wast to redesign the M3 again to N3E)
@@TamasKiss-yk4st you’re probably right
M4 Seems to be the highest generational increase in performance since Apple silicon debuted. That new process node is pretty incredible.
I am so excited for the next chapter in Apples evolution. Thanks for making constant interesting Apple content Greg. Been a huge fan for years. I would love to see the option to have a Mac OS hybrid in the iPad. That would be a game changer.
I only just got a fully kitted out M3 Max 16" MBP... Already have single-core envy over the iPad though!
So did 2 weeks ago I and spent a pretty penny on it. But the thing is we bought these Mac’s for multi core not single core, and given how much the M3 Max heats up under full load I doubt they can really push the core count higher especially for efficiency cores.
For me a 15% performance hit is more than worth the 6 months waiting time for the M4 Max.
As per the single core, even my old M1 still feels snappy AF.
As a purchaser of the M4 256gb version, I am INFURIATED that they’ve binned the CPU cores.
*How am I going to watch Netflix, and browse Amazon effectively now with all 10 cores?*
I am buying a macbook pro m3 in june, do you think it is worth it to wait for the m4 macbook pro or should I just buy the m3
The m3 chip has a security flaw. If thats not important to you then m3 is a good buy. Id check apples refurbish site first for deals
M3 is a really good chip, depends on what you plan to use the computer for? If it's Motion graphics, video editing, then an M3 max or M3 pro is fine. The highest has the fastest exports. If you're planning on doing 3D work, then maybe wait for the M4 chip because it might optimize the ray tracing and probably work better than the M3 ray tracing.
Also if price is a concern, then getting a discounted M3 is better since you'll get a higher chip for cheaper, but if price isn't an issue then just wait to see what M4 offers, and wait for the specs from TH-camrs to see if it's 3D is a big difference versus M3.
@@BlackDub21how? Everyone said that about M1 but I never have had an issue.
@@wolfx23heyy dude i want to buy mackbook for 3d animation video editing with great effects like those anime related channel and goji center do it in his videos plus i also want to create music beats should i wait for m4pro? Or go for m3air 16/512 my budget is quite tight currently so i could only go for air but by m4 time i think i could go with pro one whats ur opinion?
Do you need it now? If yes, get it. If you can hold out, wait for an M4 machine that meets your needs. It is clearly faster and will have more longevity because the M4 has ARM V9.
As someone with a work laptop with a M2 Max I am not sad. My work won’t upgrade my computer until 2025 or 2026. However I would really like to get a M4 or M4 Pro Mac Mini this year.
Why comment if it makes no sense?
Great video - please explain your thoughts on Apple's staggered release for M4. Why do iPads get M4 a year before Mac Studio will?
Scale, they have to make a lot of chips. And they have to save a lot of production for the iPhone
Because ACTUAL professionals are snubbed, as always. Apple responds by simply slapping the word "Pro" on all their consumer devices.
The 3nm N3E is a new node, so the yield is lower than expected. You'll need to launch the lesser models first since they can include binned chipsets. A Mac Studio will only have non-binned chipsets, so they probably need to wait for the yield to improve. Yield and cost per unit are directly correlated as Apple pays for the wafer, so Apple has to maximise each wafer to keep the cost per unit down.
At what point do new models arrive just too often ?
Those performance gains depend on how apps use the cores, like Apple Logic Pro only uses the performance core so more efficiently cores isn't going to benefit Logic. I'm hoping for M4 Max chips to show up this year and since Gurman's track record hasn't been that good the last year I'll wait for WWDC to get an idea whats coming.
Problem is more apps aren't that multicore efficient because they don't need to be. Only a few apps can use all those cores.
It’s crazy. I bought an M1 max the day they came out. October 2021. Fully loaded. Still runs like the day it was new, and I think I have so much headroom. I’ll never know what to do with all of it. The M4 lineup doesn’t even phase me at this point
the most powerful thing these new iPads will be doing is playing Roblox
This is all because of the Snapdragon X
I am just waiting for iMac 27in
"Gretchen, stop trying to make fetch happen, it's NOT going to happen."
Never gonna happen.
Nope. That ship has sailed. I imagine that at some stage, they'll release a 24" 4.5k display, and then the iMac will be dead entirely.
Get a Mac Studio and a studio display
@@21dazzerexactly, an Apple 24in display and Mac mini will replace the iMac absolutely
Thank you, for your comments Greg on this post. It appears, the M-3 processor is being used by Apple, Inc. as more of a stop-gap chip. So, the only desktop it will be used on is Apple's 24-inch iMac which, of course missed out on the M-2 processor. However, this does give me hope (and development time for Apple) for a newly designed "space gray" 30-inch iMac Pro with a M-4 pro chip and an M-4 max chip in the Fall of 2025 or the Spring of 2026. When the M-1 desktops were introduced, I decided to wait until 2025, to buy my first M series processor Apple desktop. It now appears that was a very wise decision (smile...smile)
Highly unlikely that Apple will release a larger iMac again,especially a Pro version.They have even said that they have no plans to release a larger iMac again.
The M4 mac mini is almost certainly coming ......
What is the average performance per core
Are you telling me that every year from now onwards we are getting a new M-Chip?
So 2025 we will get M5 Chip and so forth?
Thanks Greg
Apple, please don’t stop.
I think Apple should cap the M4-7 Max memory at 256 gb which is a lot I know. They should get rid of the 8 gb memory on the M4 for Mac and make lower memory an IPad thing. I also see Apple going for 16 tb storage on the Mac Studio and Mac Pro. Maybe the M4 Extreme comes out next year……
pro tip with apple, buy at most every second update. the M2 was basically the M1 but better, it was a similar chip, while the M3 was a new chip design with 3nm. the M4 is probably just gonna be a better more worked out M3
same with iPhone. the iPhone 12 mini had a short battery life and the other 12s had some minor things about them that the iPhone 13 fixed. you can tell by the designs too. the iPhone x and iPhone 11 have a similar look, the iPhone 12 and 13 have a similar look. except one of them is just a little bit better.
any issues the M3 has will be worked out with the M4
and watch, the M5 will be a completely different chip that will likely have some issues that the M6 will solve
M4 Macs must start with 16gb 512 at least.
If so i'll get a base Pro for my first Mac.
I am old school and every x-years I do a decent upgrade;, circumstances have been such that I started a replacement cycle 3 years ago and now find myself sharing an M2 Studio; I have been anticipating an M3 studio ‘any day now’; so 😢thank you for the great news;😢 - I am not disappointed, I am shaken up by your bad news!!
I'm crying in my beer too. 2:25
ipad macos when
The exact sams thing that happened when thy Launched M1 after the i9 macbook pros 😂😂
It is in an ipad because sales gonna be low. They need it in the desktops so people can use it to the max.
Experts suggest five million M4 iPad Pros sold in 2024, which is very high, bearing in mind the cost and maturity of the tablet market. That is revenue of $7.5 billion-plus before accessories!
@@andyH_England Experts 'suggest' keyword. Let's wait for sales, but the current m3 sales have been pretty awful so far.
I'm not sure about what mark German said about the release date because by WWDC 2025, the M3 chips need to stop.
My prediction: Mac mini, Mac pro and Mac studio in WWDC 2024, MacBook pros in October, iMac and MacBook air in March 2025
I'm going to stick with my M3 Pro MBP 14. I just got it, and upgrading won't be worth it (for my use case anyway). If Apple releases an upgraded iPad mini I'll jump on one of those though.
The M3 is a killer chip and my M# MBA is awesome. I don't regret getting it at all (Well, I kind of had to as my M1 MBA was stolen). There is always something with upgraded speed or features around the corner. Enjoy what you have and get what you need when you need it. It will be a few years before I need to upgrade this fine laptop, but it's still fun to see the gains.
Do not forget that regular iPad will get 9 core version which can have similar performance as M3. and you have to shell 1599 to the get cheapest 10 core. still 11" :) and 1899 for 13". So enjoy your M3 Air long.
so grateful for this video because I literally just bought an M3 Max so I'm 100% going to return this and wait
Running ipadOS on a M4 ipad pro is like running a ps1 game on a ps5.
M3 Mac buyers got scammed. I’m glad I held off because I’d have been POd
i'm holding out for the M5 aka "Penta-M"
I think there is a change in the marketing strategy with releasing the M4 in the Pro iPad and also in the desktop versions first. Then the MacBooks later - for a trickle down approach, rather than the bottom up approach. Once a M4 Ultra, Max, or Pro version is in a desktop, M2/3 MacBook owners will jump at the new chip. Oh, let's not forget a possible M4 Extreme chip for only the Mac Pro to justify the cost and for high end developers/studios who eat these things up like bar peanuts. This approach makes sense to me and will sell more devices rather than keep the high end users waiting so long.
No, I legit feel scammed for getting an M3 air. Most likely they won't upgrade the air until late next year, potentially with an M5. Still, was hoping to have cutting edge apple silicon for at least like 6 months...
I just got the m3 air a few days ago, first time buying a Mac, wanted the latest n greatest. 5 days later it's old, lmfao.
You ll probably never test the limit of your MacBook Air M3 chip. It’s the feeling of having the best shiniest thing, chill. I’m doing data analysis and programming on m2 pro Mac mini, never even came close to being slow.
@@christosmachilai8804 I have to say, the M2 Pro mini is very much a sweet spot. I have no desire to get an M4 as my workflow is more than handled by my mini. If you NEED an M4, all is well and good. The only thing I can see that might make a difference is, depending on how they implement it, the AI integration.
There’s no worry, the Air series hardly gets the top of the line equipment. Probably won’t see an M4 MacBook Air until spring of next year
I want an M4 Mac Studio with a minimum of 192GB RAM and 76+ GPU cores. This computer will be used for running a private AI with massive LLMs. I would buy one today if it was available. If necessary, then I'll purchase an M3 Mac Studio this year and an M4 version next year.
A12X when debuted was faster than 95 percent pc , apple didnt lie .that iPad pro is still fast and running great
Very interesting about the power of M4, didn't expect this. I guess if the m4 Macs have oled screen, it might be a bit more lighter than now, which will be great.
We want new Mac’s!!
Nah! The Pro and Max M4 MBP wouldn't be here until Q4, so you are good.
I just bought an M3 max MBP, and I'm happy with it. BUT - my return window closes on June 11...WWDC starts on June 10. if they announce new MBPs there...I might return just so that I'm as future proof as possible..but, I'm not losing sleep over it..
If Apple is looking for low-volume products to ramp up M4 production, you would think they could release the M4 And M4 Pro Mac Mini, the M4 Max and M4 Ultra Mac Studio, and M4 Ultra Mac Pro at WWDC, because those ARE low volume products. By the way, I’ve said it before: the Mac Pro should have been designed with four motherboard slots to accommodate four M4 Ultra SOCs, or possibly eight M4 Ultra SoCs ( two SoCs per daughterboard). That would have really made the Mac Pro a flagship product (and blown the doors off of Tower Intel or AMD PCs).
My Bachelor's of Computer applications Course is starting from July so what should I buy m3 pro macbook pro or wait for m4 pro macbook pro or other laptop with snapdragon x elite ?
M4 MacBook Pro slated for a late 2024 launch, so if you can't wait that long, then go for the M3 MB pro now. Else wait.
I need a new MBP M_ Pro. It's June '24. I need the laptop Now, but if I'm spending $3k (16" M3Max 36/1TB), I would love spend that cash on the M4 instead.
So... how can I buy something today, use it for 4 months, return it and then buy my "real" forever machine? Buy a 512gb SSD docking station and buy machines from Amazon and return them within 90 days until the same 16" M4pro is launched and then buy from Apple? Any suggestions that are less shady would be appreciated.
m4 max might actually be a significant jump for the first time in the M series. Dont get me wrong the M series is impressive, but the WOW factor of M2 and M3 were not that much over the initial release.
Apple is probably sitting on the M5, M6, M7 and M8 and Tim is giggling at the speculations of TH-camrs. It used to be called Kremlin Watching. Speculation without information.
Tim's like 🤭
@@jeffersonmp4 Just to be irritating he might call the M5 Vegemite or something and bring back Mother Nature to reprimand us.
Compare the pace of CPU and GPU improvements now to when they were stuck using Intel 14nm chips for an eternity. If Apple had not made the switch to an house design we would be living in dark times.
Hoping we see a spec bump for Mac Studio very soon, the current gen is very capable as-is, but for the investment it feels like buying into an M2 this year isn't where I want to be.
I find it hard to believe and understand if Apple won't release the M4 Studio and Pro at WWDC '24. Are we to go another half year with M2? At that point, why not soft release the M3? Seem more perplexing to have the M2 through 2024 than it would to release the M3 after the M4 announcement.
Nobody needs a fast ipad. In fact, I would argue they would skip this and update macs with a M5 pushed further out.
Insane power and Insane Price.
I have no info, but it does seem reasonable that Apple is designing more for the M series chips and working back to the A series chips. I think that we will see an M4 based studio and Pro before we see the airs updated. I have my doubts about the Gurman timeline. Time will tell. But when we look at how aggressive Apple is with the iPad, it seems that they will be more aggressive on the Mac than Gurman is predicting.
Regulators Mount up! 🐎 ⬆️
In this case, I’m wondering would it make sense to purchase a MacBook Pro with M2 Pro or M2 Max now? Or it doesn’t make sense at all? 😅
Snapdragon X Elite is now tensed and sweating.
Apple is not their competition despite what they want you to think. Nobody will cross shop Macs and PCs or even iPads and Android tablets. Besides they will have more than enough to worry about with app developer support, compatibility and driver issues, all sorts of random products that will have first gen teething issues, etc. Trying to move the world off x86 to a new architecture has been tried many times in the past and the road is covered with bodies. Apple made it look easy because the tight vertical integration but Windows / Android will have no such luck.
Seems like Apple will have plenty of options available for entry-level products moving forward. The addition of M2 and M3 variants in future base MacBook Airs, Minis, iPads, Apple TV etc can offer buyers lower priced units will all the Apple panache, world class fit and finish and full ecosystem compatibility. I do wish that Apple would take a stronger run in gaining PC market share. It is an area where they room to grow.
Qualcomm's Snapdragon X Elite has way more potential because it's not stuck with Apple's crazy update cycle. Apple's chips have to carry the weight of their marketing history, while Qualcomm can just go where the tech takes them. Apple's biggest problem is that it's Apple, with all the marketing BS that comes with it.
Heck I just got my hands on a brand new 17 inch MacBook Pro,
to replace my old broken 17 inch MacBook Pro,
that was exactly the same as the 17 inch MacBook Pro,
that replaced my 17 inch MacBook Pro
after that broke, and it is AMAZING. I’m never looking back.
Apple is furiously working on how to pair an M4 processor with 4GB RAM. Then they could charge $400 to bring it up to 16GB. Magical and revolutionary!!
It's hard to get excited about a company that intentionally bottlenecks their products and force consumers to buy extras they don't need in order to get better workflow. Transparent corporate greed.
I was gonna buy an m3 pro MacBook Pro for college (starting August 19th) but now idk if I should wait for the m4 MacBook Pro omg I hate you apple
OMG! Same scenario here!!
Wait bro wait i'm doing the same
Wait and bleed
If Apple don’t update every year people complain. If they update within the year they complain. If it’s not powerful enough there are complains. If it’s too power they complain. Now I’m complaining!
If there is no new Mac Studio or Pro until 25, I wonder if they see an M5 chip based on these chip release schedules.
I love your personality bro you crack me up. You’re naturally funny. Great vibes !
Still using my M2 MacBook Pro 13" and I was going to get a 14" or 16" M3 Pro becasue more ports and I like the design but I think I'm going to stick to it until I can't
Apple already on the M4 chip and I’m still using the M1
I'm upgrading from M1 Mac Mini as soon as the M4 Ultra Mac Studio is announced
Some of us are still on Intel
Annoys me that the M4 wasn't in the Macbook Air refresh that WE JUST GOT
Honestly, if i have to wait for the macbook air m4 for a year. Ill just get the macbook air m3... i want one for college and for general use.
I want a mini.
i hope they release the m4 ultra for mac studio
ipad > mac
untill i die from this planet
There will always be something faster and more efficient than what you just bought.
It would be odd to wait that long for new Macs. Most likely, they say something at the WWDC unless a new Mac design is coming
In the real world, you might find it being a bit snappier, but it does the same thing with the same OS. My experience with the M2 vs the M3 Pro wasn’t that different. I use my MBA on the go, and my MBP is my desktop solution and they both do the same work, and both “feel” the same. They are all pretty fast…
True, most users will not notice a difference apart from snappier interactions as you say. I am an M1 iPad Pro user and although a bit jealous of that OLED, mine still flies and does all I need and probably will do for another 3-5 years.
It’s exciting that M4 is released 😊 but in an iPad 😢 and my M3 MacBook Pro is only a few months old😢. But the M4 lineup isn’t coming til end of 2025 🤔. I don’t know what to feel about all this
"MacPad" OS, incoming!
I was gonna get an M3 Max for college 😭
for what sorry?>> No beginner should ever buy beyond m3pro base..
@@PKperformanceEUWho said I’m a beginner? I regularly edit multiple layers of 4k Pro-Res video along with heavy effects in After Effects for client work.
The M4 can perform 38 TOPS of AI calculations but the Snapdragon X can do 45 TOPS. Apple said that it was the fastest AI processor available so I wonder how they are calculating it? Maybe Qualcomm are overstating their performance? Also the A17 Pro can already do 35 TOPS so seems like a lacklustre upgrade.
This should be a slight upgrade from my iPad 5th gen
will the m4 beat my 2011 imac
Impossible
Ordered the 13” iPad Pro 2TB Wifi only model. Coming from an early 2020 11” iPad Pro with a A12Z I believe. I’ve been dealing with bad battery drain, and been needing a bigger screen for a while as well. I plan on moving from a 11” iPad and 13” Macbook Pro to a 13”/16” iPad/MBP. IPad is the first as it’s the most used.