If there are a million Lurrus fans, I am one of them If there are a hundred Lurrus fans, I am one of them If there are 10 Lurrus fans, I am one of them If there is 1 Lurrus fan, it's LSV
@californiaplant-basedeater2761 Yeah, I'm not actually a lurrus truther or whatever. I think there's a reason the card's so good. Just making fun of people who complain when good cards get picked and don't work out because all of your opponents draft all the time
Dispatch: 911, what’s your emergency? Me: He did it again. Dispatch: Oh no, what pick. Me: Pack one pick one. Dispatch: Dear God… Stay calm, I’m sending someone.
I don't know if you'll see this, LSV, but I want to say thank you. I'm nursing a dying parent at the moment and these daily draft videos are really helping me wind down at the end of the day. I look forward to seeing what comes up at 6 every evening (UK) for me to relax with.
It's very refreshing that even on what has been a bit of a losing skid, LSV comes back with a giddy grin on his face to pick up Lurrus P1P1. Legend for a reason.
kind of a random request, but would you consider doing a couple of Vintage Cube drafts with the mindset of teaching those completely new to vintage cube? I have some friends I'm trying to lure into the format. They have just a little experience with commander and aren't familiar with all the cards. They like the format, but are a bit overwhelmed, and I'd love to be able to point them to a couple of your drafts where you don't make as many assumptions about the knowledge the viewer has of the cards. Your "Top 50" videos with deeper explanations are super helpful, but would be nice to pair something like that with draft + gameplay.
I feel like LSV’s content is already accessible at all levels, which is part of why he’s done so well as a content creator for so long. Just recommending him in the dark as an introduction to the format is something I’ve done before and has been pretty successful.
1. LSV's base videos are already very informative. 2. Maybe look at his very early videos on this channel -- he explains a bit more to catch people up to speed.
I second the recommendation to look at the earlier videos. Some of the cards have changed, but overall it’s close enough to learn a lot. I also recommend to listen to the episodes of LR that are about Vintage Cube.
P1P1 Lurrus is the way to do Lurrus, where you don't have to scrap your picks to shuffle your deck into a direction it has to suck in its gut to fit into. I do look forward to seeing how Lurrus does here. After the draft, before matches: this is the kinda deck that I feel like Lurrus can do real well in - low to the ground, so taking the time to Lurrus can really push the value, but I think also make the room for you to be able to do so.
Well played. I know it's a tough judgement call, but I don't think you mulligan aggressively enough. When I have a 0 mana draw 7 then choose and discard a card, in my otherwise dubious hand, I am usually more than willing to put my fate in the hands of the Magic gods.
What do you think about Cabal Therapy for Vintage Cube? It seems to me like it has the power level to fit alongside the other black discard spells, and we have a lot of ways to see an opponent’s hand in the cube. (Also, you’re really good at guessing opponents’ cards, so it would be fun to see you do some blind guessing.)
There once was a man named Luis At gatherings he was sort of a wiz His favourite craft Playing Lurrus in draft We're just glad no one passed a Brain Freeze
I'm interested in discussing your Match 1 Game 1 decision to Lurrus ocelot. I assume it was to keep the foot on the gas and maximize pressure instead of baubling.
I would say that converting card advantage into a snowball type of threat is more important than generating more card advantage. If they kill Lurrus the next turn, you still have a winning threat on board, as opposed to an extra random card.
I think mockingbird was clearly the play over nowhere to run in match 2 game 2: all the known threats were better dealt (bowmasters and spellbringer) with by mockingbird and it would be good to great even against no creatures
It’s much more palatable in a reanimator deck than, say, a fairer black deck. Mayyybe if you’re super combo doomsday focused, it could protect you going off.
I wonder about how good rite of oblivion would be in this cube, I feel like it has a ton of use cases and wb seems to have a ton of random material lying around. Honestly cards these days just make a lot of rectangles
Impact and ceiling. Lutri lets you copy one spell the turn it's played. Lurrus lets you replay one permanent every turn, until you win. Lurrus for one turn is similar to Lutri, Lurrus for two turns is twice as strong, and it goes up from there. Companion just pushes it up to busted and banned in almost everything.
@@Voidhawk42great analysis. Lutri can only ever win you the game with specific cards (or like double removal blowouts). Lurrus just wins the game with whatever you have in your deck.
@Voidhawk42 Thanks, very helpful! Cost of Lutri seems so low to me, but I guess it doesn't raise the ceiling of the deck that much...except with already broken stuff like Ancestral or Time Walk. I'm still trying to figure out when to move off Lurrus though. Like how good does a 3 cost+ card have to be to move Lurrus from companion into main deck.
@@navi1655 if you first pick lurrus, there is never a time to move off of it. There is not a single individual card that would be worth more than lurrus. The more interesting question is when to abandon your 3+ permanents to pick up a lurrus in pack 1. If my previous claim is correct (that you shouldn’t ever move off of lurrus) then you should always abandon 1 3+ drop to pick up lurrus. If you have 2 3+ drops, they have to be really good to not pick lurrus up. We’re talking 2 other top 50 cards, not just 1 and some other random 3+ drop. I could still see abandoning 3 3+ drops if none of them are top 50, but gets a little murkier and more dependent on what cards we are talking about and what other cards you have. A small addendum to my first paragraph: there may be times where you have like a sneak/emrakul or flash/worldspine that you picked up towards the end of packs because they just wheeled and that could provide an interesting discussion, but that’s probably not going to happen very often.
@giancarlocafaro6734 Awesome analysis, thank you! I was wondering with like Fable and Bombardiers. It got me thinking about maybe White Plume? Not in cube but strongest 3 I can think of. I could see pivoting Lurrus into main in the right mono white deck to run a White Plume...it depends how deep into the draft though.
I feel like we have very different estimations of how many blue sources you need for cryptic command to be good. I mean, at the point you picked it, you would have been splashing for cryptic! Don't you want at least 10 sources to have a reasonable chance of casting it by land #5? Even that is a bit thin as you really want it on land 4 which is like 13+ sources to consistently have. For this deck to have 10 sources though it would (at this point) need to play 5 islands, which leaves 4 spots for swamps and plains when the deck has a bunch of black and white 1-drops. Of course you weren't missing out on much by taking it regardless, but it felt like basically 0% to be good. I also am much lower on lotus petal than you are. I'd probably play it in this deck because Lurrus can make up for the card disadvantage and turn 1 1-drop + discard spell is a pretty nice start, but I would definitely have taken strip mine over it. Lotus petal even has a slight chance to wheel. Bombardiers, pyrogoyf, vaultborn tyrant, skyclave apparation, 2 tri-lands, and bitter triumph are all cards I could see being taken over it (some more so than others). All that said, this deck does look good to me. I don't like having this many tap lands given how strong your 1-drops are, though. I would have looked at limiting blue further in order to up the # of turn 1 black and white sources. Probably you'd have needed to draft slightly differently for that to make sense though (taking strip mine into samwise over ponder, taking winds of abandon over no more lies). My prediction is 2-1, with your one loss being due to some awkward curve outs from tap lands (having an untapped land turn 1 over a tapped one is like its own lotus petal!). Though I also could see the blue cards performing really well and justifying the tap lands. In other words, I'm not that confident about my prediction, I suppose. edit: Well, I guess I didn't predict only 2 matches happening. I will say the lotus petal didn't look especially good and there were moments where a strip mine would have been quite nice to have. On the flip side, the blue cards did perform really well, so I think if I had taken the more consistent route I would have ended up with a worse deck.
Wow another mid Lurrus deck, and LSV honestly doesn't get why he's always losing? Sometimes it's time to move on and admit... ... you should watch the video before rushing to the comments to hate on Lurrus
did you just skip to the end of the vid to see his record without watching to see if lurrus actually did anything beyond what any cube 3 drop would have done?
If there are a million Lurrus fans, I am one of them
If there are a hundred Lurrus fans, I am one of them
If there are 10 Lurrus fans, I am one of them
If there is 1 Lurrus fan, it's LSV
Hello, police? Yes, it's me. He's taking lurrus again. Okay, I'll hold.
Lurrus is fine 3v3. No one will have a good deck. Any 2 for 1 card is going to be a fine pick.
@californiaplant-basedeater2761 Yeah, I'm not actually a lurrus truther or whatever. I think there's a reason the card's so good. Just making fun of people who complain when good cards get picked and don't work out because all of your opponents draft all the time
Dispatch: 911, what’s your emergency?
Me: He did it again.
Dispatch: Oh no, what pick.
Me: Pack one pick one.
Dispatch: Dear God… Stay calm, I’m sending someone.
@@tdfowler79I think that "someone" was the chat. 😂 It's my first time actually reading the Lurrus comments.
I don't know if you'll see this, LSV, but I want to say thank you. I'm nursing a dying parent at the moment and these daily draft videos are really helping me wind down at the end of the day. I look forward to seeing what comes up at 6 every evening (UK) for me to relax with.
It's very refreshing that even on what has been a bit of a losing skid, LSV comes back with a giddy grin on his face to pick up Lurrus P1P1. Legend for a reason.
@18:30 some hard hitting analysis of Tamiyo.
I love the Lurrus videos. It’s definitely one of my top cube archetypes I want to try but haven’t had a chance to yet.
kind of a random request, but would you consider doing a couple of Vintage Cube drafts with the mindset of teaching those completely new to vintage cube? I have some friends I'm trying to lure into the format. They have just a little experience with commander and aren't familiar with all the cards. They like the format, but are a bit overwhelmed, and I'd love to be able to point them to a couple of your drafts where you don't make as many assumptions about the knowledge the viewer has of the cards. Your "Top 50" videos with deeper explanations are super helpful, but would be nice to pair something like that with draft + gameplay.
I feel like LSV’s content is already accessible at all levels, which is part of why he’s done so well as a content creator for so long. Just recommending him in the dark as an introduction to the format is something I’ve done before and has been pretty successful.
1. LSV's base videos are already very informative.
2. Maybe look at his very early videos on this channel -- he explains a bit more to catch people up to speed.
I’d like more educational content myself. Hoping to make a cube myself
I second the recommendation to look at the earlier videos. Some of the cards have changed, but overall it’s close enough to learn a lot. I also recommend to listen to the episodes of LR that are about Vintage Cube.
I heard if you say Lurrus into the mirror 3 times it appears and ruins your deck.
9:40 cannot believe you missed the opportunity to tell us that Backstreet was, in fact, back. Alright...
LSV's editor needs to make a custom thumbnail for all lurrus drafts
Lurrus?
Skill...
Victory!
Lurrus Scott-Vargas. Great content, as always. Ill keep watching as long as you keep posting.
Got a chuckle from the title. You do you Luis, if chat is criticizing you. Chat is the wrong one!
P1P1 Lurrus is the way to do Lurrus, where you don't have to scrap your picks to shuffle your deck into a direction it has to suck in its gut to fit into.
I do look forward to seeing how Lurrus does here.
After the draft, before matches: this is the kinda deck that I feel like Lurrus can do real well in - low to the ground, so taking the time to Lurrus can really push the value, but I think also make the room for you to be able to do so.
I love seeing Lurrus decks come together.
consider me absolutely binging on the lurrus kool-aid
As a dedicated Lurrus hater, I gotta be real. Amazing Lurrus deck, the cat did insane things in most of the games. I get it
A Lurrus deck won the top 8 of Cube Con...
Well played. I know it's a tough judgement call, but I don't think you mulligan aggressively enough. When I have a 0 mana draw 7 then choose and discard a card, in my otherwise dubious hand, I am usually more than willing to put my fate in the hands of the Magic gods.
There’s no I in Lurrus. Do it, Luis!
Next episode will be a Duel Commander deck with lurrus companion
I wonder what’s the best Orzhov 2-drop legend for that.
@@dementievatz probably amalia
@@dementievatz Bjorna & Wernog , Jenson, etc.
@@dementievatz karlov of the ghost council
What do you think about Cabal Therapy for Vintage Cube? It seems to me like it has the power level to fit alongside the other black discard spells, and we have a lot of ways to see an opponent’s hand in the cube. (Also, you’re really good at guessing opponents’ cards, so it would be fun to see you do some blind guessing.)
I tried it and it was very bad
@@LSVargas Thanks!
FP that lurrus! just started watching and excited to see it!
The first step to Lurrus recovery is admitting you have a problem 😂
BREAKING NEWS: 10 time pro tour top 8 hall of famer Luis Scott-Vargas wins a match of cube?!?!? THEY SAID IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE
There once was a man named Luis
At gatherings he was sort of a wiz
His favourite craft
Playing Lurrus in draft
We're just glad no one passed a Brain Freeze
I’d love to see a lurrus 1v1 commander video
If you had drafted boros, starting with solitude, it would have been so broken
Yeah fable, fury, broadside, solitude and bolt
Team draft vintage cube is like the bridge of mtg? Is that a fair analogy?
Hope you’re feeling better!
There is something to be said about opening Lurrus, because nobody passing to you knows you have it.
49:22 the most controversial statement in the history of magic
Would have definitely taken the Forth and been full domain this draft
Did a new video get posted, then deleted? Something about Cryptic Command Control being back?
Yeah it’s back up, rounds were in wrong order
Long Live the Love for Lurrus!
I'm interested in discussing your Match 1 Game 1 decision to Lurrus ocelot. I assume it was to keep the foot on the gas and maximize pressure instead of baubling.
I would say that converting card advantage into a snowball type of threat is more important than generating more card advantage. If they kill Lurrus the next turn, you still have a winning threat on board, as opposed to an extra random card.
Yeah, this is basically it ☝️
Lurrus duel commander video incoming
Wouldn't it make sense to go with 16 lands and Petal with a curve as low as this?
P3P3 we still take Lurrus. Because we were prepared.
Picking Lurrus is like cube Marlboro Reds
Can we actually keep Mockingbird Ajani and flip the original Ajani? I'm pretty sure it doesn't see itself dying from the graveyard.
I think mockingbird was clearly the play over nowhere to run in match 2 game 2: all the known threats were better dealt (bowmasters and spellbringer) with by mockingbird and it would be good to great even against no creatures
Except it’s at sorcery speed, which makes it way worse vs EOT orcs into a jar or whatever
I'm interested to hear LSV, you say regularly that Grief isn't very good, but in what spot or deck would you like to take it?
Not sure what LSV thinks, but it's much better in decks with draw 7's, or other ways to negate the card disadvantage.
It’s much more palatable in a reanimator deck than, say, a fairer black deck. Mayyybe if you’re super combo doomsday focused, it could protect you going off.
@@giancarlocafaro6734 True. Combo usually doesn't care about card advantage as much as combo pieces.
That one lurrus comment from a few weeks ago really broke him
p1p1 Lurrus. How can that end in CATastrophe?
32:15 kill you cat flip ajani in response?
Yeah, I'm thinking I'm back!
I wonder about how good rite of oblivion would be in this cube, I feel like it has a ton of use cases and wb seems to have a ton of random material lying around. Honestly cards these days just make a lot of rectangles
Time to go back to the well
These packs were loaded
LurruSV
Petal over strip mine? Bruh
i guess the cat is out of the pack eh
draw 7s are a trap
The irony that Lurrus would be taking LSV off the losing streak lol
Idk how the draft turns out, but reanimator (turbo or slower) looks super open by the start of pack 3.
If Companion is the reason it is so good...why is Lutri not treated on the same level as Lurrus? 😮
Impact and ceiling. Lutri lets you copy one spell the turn it's played. Lurrus lets you replay one permanent every turn, until you win. Lurrus for one turn is similar to Lutri, Lurrus for two turns is twice as strong, and it goes up from there. Companion just pushes it up to busted and banned in almost everything.
@@Voidhawk42great analysis. Lutri can only ever win you the game with specific cards (or like double removal blowouts). Lurrus just wins the game with whatever you have in your deck.
@Voidhawk42 Thanks, very helpful! Cost of Lutri seems so low to me, but I guess it doesn't raise the ceiling of the deck that much...except with already broken stuff like Ancestral or Time Walk. I'm still trying to figure out when to move off Lurrus though. Like how good does a 3 cost+ card have to be to move Lurrus from companion into main deck.
@@navi1655 if you first pick lurrus, there is never a time to move off of it. There is not a single individual card that would be worth more than lurrus.
The more interesting question is when to abandon your 3+ permanents to pick up a lurrus in pack 1. If my previous claim is correct (that you shouldn’t ever move off of lurrus) then you should always abandon 1 3+ drop to pick up lurrus. If you have 2 3+ drops, they have to be really good to not pick lurrus up. We’re talking 2 other top 50 cards, not just 1 and some other random 3+ drop. I could still see abandoning 3 3+ drops if none of them are top 50, but gets a little murkier and more dependent on what cards we are talking about and what other cards you have.
A small addendum to my first paragraph: there may be times where you have like a sneak/emrakul or flash/worldspine that you picked up towards the end of packs because they just wheeled and that could provide an interesting discussion, but that’s probably not going to happen very often.
@giancarlocafaro6734 Awesome analysis, thank you! I was wondering with like Fable and Bombardiers. It got me thinking about maybe White Plume? Not in cube but strongest 3 I can think of. I could see pivoting Lurrus into main in the right mono white deck to run a White Plume...it depends how deep into the draft though.
duel commander wen
More coming!
I feel like we have very different estimations of how many blue sources you need for cryptic command to be good. I mean, at the point you picked it, you would have been splashing for cryptic! Don't you want at least 10 sources to have a reasonable chance of casting it by land #5? Even that is a bit thin as you really want it on land 4 which is like 13+ sources to consistently have. For this deck to have 10 sources though it would (at this point) need to play 5 islands, which leaves 4 spots for swamps and plains when the deck has a bunch of black and white 1-drops. Of course you weren't missing out on much by taking it regardless, but it felt like basically 0% to be good.
I also am much lower on lotus petal than you are. I'd probably play it in this deck because Lurrus can make up for the card disadvantage and turn 1 1-drop + discard spell is a pretty nice start, but I would definitely have taken strip mine over it. Lotus petal even has a slight chance to wheel. Bombardiers, pyrogoyf, vaultborn tyrant, skyclave apparation, 2 tri-lands, and bitter triumph are all cards I could see being taken over it (some more so than others).
All that said, this deck does look good to me. I don't like having this many tap lands given how strong your 1-drops are, though. I would have looked at limiting blue further in order to up the # of turn 1 black and white sources. Probably you'd have needed to draft slightly differently for that to make sense though (taking strip mine into samwise over ponder, taking winds of abandon over no more lies).
My prediction is 2-1, with your one loss being due to some awkward curve outs from tap lands (having an untapped land turn 1 over a tapped one is like its own lotus petal!). Though I also could see the blue cards performing really well and justifying the tap lands. In other words, I'm not that confident about my prediction, I suppose.
edit: Well, I guess I didn't predict only 2 matches happening. I will say the lotus petal didn't look especially good and there were moments where a strip mine would have been quite nice to have. On the flip side, the blue cards did perform really well, so I think if I had taken the more consistent route I would have ended up with a worse deck.
Lurrus haters in shambles
Wow another mid Lurrus deck, and LSV honestly doesn't get why he's always losing? Sometimes it's time to move on and admit...
... you should watch the video before rushing to the comments to hate on Lurrus
did you just skip to the end of the vid to see his record without watching to see if lurrus actually did anything beyond what any cube 3 drop would have done?
P1P1: Lurrus vs Black Lotus
LSV: Let's take Lurrus and try to wheel the Black Lotus
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I love these vids, but it is really hard to enjoy the content to its fullest over the sound of choking on saliva. Has a mic shield ever been tried?
It's a feature. Take it in.
idk about watching opp during match with ur teammate just maybe something to steer clear of after first match. watching teammate sure but
It doesn't show you their hand and so there isn't any info gained that your teammate wouldn't already be passing on to you
Yea this is totally normal and fine
@@LSVargas ya my b first reaction was “oh man” been watching a lot of Naroditsky v kramnik videos recently. don’t want u caught up in that homie
Thraben over Sheltered is nonsense. Especially in Lurrus.
first!
9 minutes ago!
Could have had bombardiers, fable, forth and more if not playing Lurrus
Yes, those are cards?
@@LSVargas And Lurrus doesn't even stop a player from playing Forth...
Taking Lurrus in 3v3 …….
Not taking lurrus in a 3v3?