Totally true, I feel the same way. I discovered his videos like 3 months ago and I cannot stop watching them. God bless him and his family for spreading the word of God
Surely his irrational thinking has perverted his corrupted mind or he didn't get the right information to make a decision on the teachings of christ and believing and put his faith in christ who is above all.
This was recorded in fall 2005, I was only 19 years old. Cliffe deserves so much more recognition than he gets. God bless everyone and don't forget to like and subscribe.
It’s so amazing how Cliff draws out the truth. The students always start claiming to have beef with the Bible and ends up with them admitting they just want to do what they want.
@@antichrist_revealed I once heard a preacher say that we humans are the collateral damage in Satan’s war with God. That seems to be what is being communicated in Revelation 12. Chapter 12 verse 13-17 talks about the persecution of the woman and the dragon waging war against her offspring. Why? Because her offspring keep God’s commandments. Satan hates God and to get at God he goes after who is the object of God’s affection and that’s us. Our task is not to let Satan use us as collateral damage in his war against God. We have to submit to God through Jesus Christ to avoid being used and becoming collateral damage.
I’m reminded by these videos on how much persecution Jesus and the apostles faced back in the time and the amount of Holy Spirit that reigned through them to spread these truths right in the courts of their haters. So grateful to come across these videos.
When people are angry and argue, it's because they are mad at someone and blame it on God. Please don't ruin your personal relationship with God over what man has done to you! All men will let you down but Jesus Christ will not for He has already won!
It’s unbelievable that these people think God reliability is based on the faith of the believer. Because in reality, we put our faith in God because our reliability in our own ability fails every time, proven time & time again. But God, is the same yesterday, today, & forever.
Learning about CHRIST and growing stronger in faith is like a muscle. Thank you Cliff for helping me get back to my faith and grow exponentially stronger, by critical and logical thinking. I cannot thank you enough. Content like this is worth way more than any amount of money on this planet.
Yeah spreading the Gospel isn't a choice, in doing God's will here on Earth, we need to let Him use us. Cliffe, handles this so well, it's good to learn from this channel. I have alot of friends who are unbelievers. I'm getting more confidence to approach them on this topic, thanks to the Word of God and learning from other preachers. God bless this channel ❤️.
Did an all-nighter, currently 6pm. learning a lot in the past 12 hours. Just podcasts of Cliff and Give me an answer (I've been Christian and following Jesus Christ i just enjoy how he articulates words) I'd love to have a philosophy sesh with Cliff like Socrates and other Philosophers. The way he paces and talks to people standing like that is literally what philosophers use to do. It's fascinating
@@deannavarro777 No he's not. Who was born in Rev 12:5? And when did that take place? It wasn't God, and it wasn't before the heavens and earth were created.
I’ve watched hundreds of these episodes and for the life of me I can’t help but notice that for the most part in episodes (from the time this episode was recorded and further back) that the students seem so much more respectful and more open to ideas, deeper questions, and discussion. I don’t know what happened to change this
@@EchoGuzmancould be the devil, or it could be people's free will, I understand what you are saying but I argue you can't conclusively say it is the devil
“These will make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb will overcome them, for He is Lord of Lords and King of kings; and those who are with Him are called, chosen, and faithful.”” Revelation 17:14 NKJV
“And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father’s hand. I and My Father are one.”” John 10:28-30 NKJV “And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.” Matthew 28:18 NKJV “Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.”” John 8:58 NKJV Jesus does what the Father does and He says He is one with the Father, Jesus is one with the Father in divine nature meaning Jesus can do everything the Father can and only God can do that
@@MO-hq4iz equality with the Father is not a concept to be grasped , we know He is equal to the Father in divine nature, and has the same attributes , we are creation and cannot understand in a human sense , but God extends past our thoughts , He can be one in divine nature and have 3 forms
@@Only1heze No, Jesus did not claim to be God, nor does the bible support the Trinity doctrine core elements. Angels as “gods” and “sons of God”: Psalm 82:1: “God presides in the great assembly; he renders judgment among the ‘gods.'” Argument: This verse indicates that the term “gods” refer to angels as heavenly beings. Job 1:6: “One day the angels came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came with them.” Argument: The term “sons of God” is used in other translations, showing that the title is not exclusive to Jesus and refer to angels. Jesus’ Distinct Nature and Subordination: Mark 13:32: “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.” Argument: Jesus admits to not possessing the same level of knowledge as the Father, making a clear distinction in their knowledge and power. John 20:17: “Jesus said, ‘Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.”” Argument: Jesus refers to the Father as “my God,” indicating not only a subordinate relationship and distinctness from the Father, but as worshipper of the Father. 1 Corinthians 11:3: “But I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God.” Argument: Paul outlines a hierarchy where Christ is subject to God, emphasizing their distinct roles. John 14:28: “You heard me say, ‘I am going away and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I.” Argument: Jesus himself acknowledges that the Father is greater than He is, stating a hierarchical relationship. Jesus as the Firstborn and Beginning: Colossians 1:15: “The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.” Argument: The term “firstborn” states that Jesus had a beginning, indicating He is not co-eternal with the Father, but is born as in created, but the first of all creations. Proverbs 8:22-30 (interpreted by some as a reference to Jesus as divine wisdom): “The Lord brought me forth as the first of his works, before his deeds of old; I was formed long ages ago, at the very beginning, when the world came to be.” Argument: If interpreted as referring to Jesus, this passage suggests He was the first of God’s creations, emphasizing a starting point in time. Revelation 1:8: “‘I am the Alpha and the Omega,’ says the Lord God, ‘who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.'” Argument: This verse emphasizes that it’s the “Lord God” speaking, not Jesus, underscoring Jehovah’s unique eternal nature. Revelation 3:14: “To the angel of the church in Laodicea write: These are the words of the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of God’s creation.” Argument: Jesus is here name the beginning of God’s creation, meaning he is part of creation, and the beginning or firstborn of creations Jesus’ Future Subordination: 1 Corinthians 15:24-28: “Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority, and power… When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.” Argument: This passage describes a future time when Jesus will hand over the kingdom to God the Father and be subject to Him, emphasizing their distinct roles and Jesus’ subordination, meaning His is no co-equal in the future either. The Holy Spirit Described as a “Spirit”: John 14:26: “But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you.” Argument: The term “spirit” in both the Old and New Testaments refers to a force or power, not a person. In this context, the Holy Spirit is described as an advocate or helper, but not as a separate individual. The Holy Spirit depicted as the “Finger” of God: Luke 11:20: “But if I drive out demons by the finger of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.” Argument: Jesus describes the Holy Spirit as the “finger of God,” a metaphorical expression that emphasizes the Spirit’s role as an extension of God’s power and will, rather than as a person. The Holy Spirit Non-Personified Characteristics: Acts 2:17-18: “‘In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams. Even on my servants, both men and women, I will pour out my Spirit in those days, and they will prophesy.'” Argument: The Holy Spirit is described as something that can be “poured out,” a characteristic not in line with a person. The Holy Spirit Not Explicitly Called “God”: While the Father and the Son are frequently referred to as “God” in various contexts, the Holy Spirit is never explicitly given this title in the scriptures. Argument: The absence of this direct designation further distinguishes the Holy Spirit from the personhood often attributed to the Father and the Son. Baptism in the Name of the Holy Spirit: Matthew 28:19: “Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.” Argument: Being baptized in the name of the Holy Spirit does not confer personhood or divinity to the Spirit. In many biblical contexts, doing something “in the name of” means doing it by the authority or power of someone or something. Thus, this baptismal formula can be understood as recognizing the authority and roles of the Father and Son without implying that all three are distinct persons or co-equal. The doctrine dosen’t thorough examination of the Bible (NIV), have any substantial evidence that supported the Trinity view. The scriptures emphasize the distinct nature and roles of Jesus and Jehovah, suggesting that they are not co-equal or co-eternal. That the Holy Spirit is not a person, nor co-equal or co-eternal.
Humans talking some pseudo intellecutal stuff just to avoid admitting the core point: "I don't want Jesus in my life because I do not want to give up on sin".
In my experience, when I am actively living in sin without trying to change, it is comforting to believe that not all of the Bible is true or that maybe God isn’t even real. It was a big, surprising moment for me when I realized how much pride I had. I knew I acted selfishly, but did not even consider myself prideful. I mean, it’s not like I’ve totally overcome my pride, but I now acknowledge it. I wonder if the green t-shirt guy doesn’t even realize the pride it takes to think how he does. It’s been like 20 years since this was. I pray that he’s had an honest reflection and humbly accepts Jesus as savior.
Funny thing is we truly never give up sinning, we continue, but we struggle to do it less and less and truly repent when we do. And hopefully we get to the point where temptation to sin is so low that it's rare but still there.
This was a good one, Cliffe has a gift like very few and I’m so glad I got to enjoy his perspectives and council all these years. Can’t wait to hang with him in Heaven.
I’ve been watching these videos for quite some time now. I feel the calling on my life to defend the faith. But I truly get mentally drained watching Cliff answer these questions.. Only by the power of the Holy Spirit. May God continue to use you for many more years according to his will! God bless you my brother in Christ
Relying on 2000 years of hearsay is rational thought? Lol, how about focusing on proof that is happening right now? Ooooh, that's right, there isn't any.
“We don’t know anything for sure…” “Anything is possible…” “All of this can’t be proved” Life isn’t based on proof, it’s based on evidence & what possesses the most concrete evidence. Getting in touch with truth/reality. No one lives life based on proof, no one goes around saying “hey I don’t know anything so it’s whatever”. We ultimately put our faith in people, places & things because of the evidence said subject bestowed upon us. Christ did it best ✝️
Is Amazing how calm he is and waiting on the Holy Spirit to tell him what to said. I prayed for those students that have the veil on, in the name of Jesus, veil off!!
Watching cliffe is such a good way to learn how to debate, because when someone is deep in emotion, because they probably don’t debate much, like to change the subject. Cliffe always keeps the conversation on one topic
Jesus saved your life , he knows who and what to use to bring you closer to him. He knew I loved cliffes video in the beginning of my walk with Jesus , I fell back for awhile and now here I am again. Praise Jesus.
"For many will come in My name, saying, 'I am the Christ,' and will deceive many." "Then many false prophets will rise up and deceive many." Deception and Many go hand in hand. Listening to them will show you who they are. Hint: Jesus is not God, and no one should ever teach that he is.
@@antichrist_revealed funny how someone quotes Jesus's words to make their point and then claims that Jesus is not God. Man you atheists r funny. U just figuratively shot urself in a leg. Bravo!!!
@@antichrist_revealed Jesus is a true God revealed in flesh and there is nothing you or anyone else can do to change that blessed fact. And Cliffe is one of Jesus's greatest followers who shows the world the amazing news of our Lord and savior Jesus Christ. All of what i said is backed up by evidence. U have no evidence of what u claim. Decent try tho.
@@6ohpowertower612 Rev 12:5 shows the birth of Jesus in heaven. Bible facts of Gen 1:1 to 1:19 show this was after the 4th day of creation. Therefore, Jesus was not with God in the beginning as he didn't even exist. If Jesus didn't exist, and God created all things just as he claims, then there is no way Jesus is God or part of a Triune God. Therefore,. the Word was God, not Jesus. Just as John said it was. And so did Jesus in John 14:24. I can back up everything I say. You can't back up anything. And neither can Cliffe. Jesus is not God, and nowhere in the bible does it say he was.
@@antichrist_revealed AGAIN you use the Bible to make your point of Jesus not being God but You pick and choose what to believe or not to believe from the Bible just to try and make a point which doesnt work at all. Clearly New Testament has many references where Jesus accepts worship AND claims to be God. You just cant interpret or read. Also, nowhere does Rev 12:5 says Jesus was born in heaven. It talks about John seeing a "woman" aka Israel produce a child that will rule all the nations. Nowhere it mentions Jesus being born in heaven. And thirdly Gen 1:1- 1:19 doesnt mention creation of Jesus. CLEARLY John says " In the begging was the WORD" (LOGOS) aka Jesus. "And the WORD was with God" aka Jesus was with the Father and not created by Father. "AND the WORD was God" John 1:1 aka Jesus was with the Father which means that Jesus IS God.You know nothing and you can't read or understand reading. Now go sit down on a porch and rethink your life. Cliffe would wipe the intelectual floor with you while reading morning newspaper.
39:39 the one in the green shirt probably was going through a spiritual and an identity crisis. I wonder how he's doing now 😢 I hope he surrendered to Christ
First of all, the young man doesn't know how to listen. He's rude and doesn't know when to shut up. Cliff read him right. He believes everything that comes out of his month. God bless you Cliff!
I gotta say, I’m a conservative, but agnostic. These arguments are some I haven’t heard before, I haven’t ever thought about faith in everyday life. He’s correct obviously, and that has always been a hangup of mine. Admittedly I’ve been moving more in a religious direction recently but this is actually really helpful.
That guy in the green shirt got blinded by his emotions. He got so defensive. Essentially he fears H311, but he also doesn't want to follow God's way. The problem is that he doesn't understand Heaven and H311. And why his rejection of God's ways will still land him in H311. Heaven is Eternity with God. H311 is separation from God. By choosing not to follow Jesus's ways, he's giving the birdie to Him and therefore has chosen to separate.
I was just thinking this. All of this is such a front, its all the same nonsense we all used to say. Its because we know we have to make a choice, between good and evil, and rather than give up what we love which is evil and pursue good (which is hard) we say "there isn't actually a choice to make, so I can just keep on living with one foot in each grave." To quote Cliff, its total baloney. I believe it is literally denial of morality. Like Schrodinger's box here we know that which is good is good, but once we admit we know what is good and what is wrong the suspension of credible naivety is shattered and we won't have any actual excuse to keep sinning.
I like it when I hear Cliffe talking about the bible as "not the word of God". Because some Christians today seems to have evolved from trinity teachings to quadruple (or whatever term to describe it) teachings. The bible is a good source for learning about God and early Christian andcJewish history. We can surely find lots of wisdom in the bible. But we must be careful not to idol worship the bible. If we truly believe the bible is the word of God and infallible we got a problem. We would need to decide on which bible. Protestants have 66, Catholics have 73, Greek Orthodox have 76 the Etiopean Orthodox Church have 81. And there are Xhristians in the middle east with even bigger canons than that. If we think our, the shortest one of them all, is the word og God, the extra books in other churches are heretic then? Or maybe our bible is just part of Gods word? Then of course different translations into the English language is a problem on top of that again. And some translations seem to miss out some rather important information at times.
“In their case the prophecy of Isaiah is being fulfilled, which says, ‘You will keep on hearing, but will not understand; You will keep on seeing, but will not perceive; For the heart of this people has become dull, With their ears they scarcely hear, And they have closed their eyes, Otherwise they would see with their eyes, Hear with their ears, And understand with their heart and return, And I would heal them.’” Matthew 13:14-15
I used to worship myself.... but at least I was honest about it... I didn't mince words about it. I was a Satanist, and I meant it at the time. Now, that was largely because I was raised by a Christian hypocrite, and treated like the source of all negativity in the universe. Glad I had my NDE.
Green shirt is easy to spot out. He is basically a spiritual sovereign citizen. Wants all of the rights but doesn’t want to adhere to any of the laws. Cliffe was just letting him down easily to not embarrass him lol
The law was given for us to see that each one of us are sinners and we cannot of ourselves save us. We need a Savior. The One and Only God, Jesus Christ was the Savior for the world. God sees every sin the same because as sinners we cannot be in the presence of a Holy God. He hates all sin the same whether we lie, or kill.
i get what you’re saying brother but in that verse God says HIS people. People who are already with Him are perishing for a lack of knowledge, but as the New Testament also points to is that the knowledge/intelligence is not a defining factor of salvation but I think more importantly in the context of Cliffe’s statement he’s saying that Jesus knows that our problem wasn’t a knowledge issue but truly a deeper sin issue (for both people who don’t belong to God and those who are His people). I will have to say though that I did think of that verse immediately when he said that lol
"My opinion" "My THoughts" "I think" "I experience" "I believe" "My personal experience" "My judgement" "What I've read" "What I've seen" The man in green 's ultimate standard of right and wrong is himself.
And this is when Jesus would say to clean the dust from your sandals on your way out, many will reject the gospel. They saw Jesus themselves make miracles and still rejected Him. It breaks my heart to hear these guys be so blinded 😢
Some days ago I had an argument like this one Cliff had at the end of the video. These types of people are so annoying like they refuse to listen to you and then say that you don't have arguments it's' so toxic
In Matthew 7:21, Jesus says, "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven." How can I be sure that I truly believe in God, have fully put my trust in Him, and committed my life to Him, given that it is possible to think I believe in him ,where as Im running away from him?
I like the Big Bang I believe that's where God started the universe not from nothing but from something which is God. And I think a lot of kids like to argue and be offended because of evil events that happened in history they like to put on God. When it goes deeper than that. When you start contradicting yourself that means you have a lot more to learn about the subject.
9mins in- Cliffe hittin home runs, speaking my language- philo. Science is faith in evidence seen for unseen. science is human glasses/lenses/arts-n-crafts assisted-sight tools to see god.
23:49 "Then don't tell us that us Athiest are going to hell." So, if you care about someone's opinion on your afterlife, you must believe in Jesus. Why would an atheist worry about such things? It sounds like he's afraid of facing the truth and it looks as if him and his dad (deacon) had this argument. He's not arguing with Cliff, he's arguing with the spirit of his dad.
To anyone dealing with depression or feeling low, don’t give up on life, no matter what bad things happened in your past, don’t let them define you or control your destiny, you are all important and loved!, there is hope for all of us! Jesus loves you all ✝️, get to know God through Christ 📖
If I had TH-cam and access to Cliff 20 years ago, my life would be a lot different than it is today. God Bless this man.
Not necessarily the holy will move with or without TH-cam
Totally true, I feel the same way. I discovered his videos like 3 months ago and I cannot stop watching them. God bless him and his family for spreading the word of God
same here. and I praise God everyday he's making me alive.
me too!
Me too
That guy in the green was ALLLLLLL over the place with his thinking. My head was starting to hurt just listening.
Same
Yes I almost thought he was on psychedelics or something. Dude made no sense the whole time
Dude he wouldn't shut up and listen and he would not admit that he worships himself. So annoying honestly.
Surely his irrational thinking has perverted his corrupted mind or he didn't get the right information to make a decision on the teachings of christ and believing and put his faith in christ who is above all.
Why so much judgment guys? We were all lost once. ❤
This was recorded in fall 2005, I was only 19 years old. Cliffe deserves so much more recognition than he gets. God bless everyone and don't forget to like and subscribe.
I was 17 going on 18 at the time.
The glory and recognition from these videos belong to God and Jesus.
I know, he’s a really good man.
I was 5.
I was 2
It’s so amazing how Cliff draws out the truth. The students always start claiming to have beef with the Bible and ends up with them admitting they just want to do what they want.
Well said friend
Who was born in Rev 12:5? It sure wasn't God.
@@antichrist_revealed I once heard a preacher say that we humans are the collateral damage in Satan’s war with God. That seems to be what is being communicated in Revelation 12. Chapter 12 verse 13-17 talks about the persecution of the woman and the dragon waging war against her offspring. Why? Because her offspring keep God’s commandments. Satan hates God and to get at God he goes after who is the object of God’s affection and that’s us. Our task is not to let Satan use us as collateral damage in his war against God. We have to submit to God through Jesus Christ to avoid being used and becoming collateral damage.
@@antichrist_revealedChrist, more specifically the second coming when he will rule all nations and all will confess he is King
He was attacked by bunch of men and he still STANDIN ON BUISNNESS❤
Yessir! That's the power of The Holy Spirit. ✝️💪
Right on time! Audio for my 30 min drive
The hubris of some of these students is astounding.
What's the astounding?😢
I’m reminded by these videos on how much persecution Jesus and the apostles faced back in the time and the amount of Holy Spirit that reigned through them to spread these truths right in the courts of their haters. So grateful to come across these videos.
It is so insane 😃 Crazy how Cliffe can hold it out like that.
Professional lier
@@RestoredRandom sure 😂
@@RestoredRandom So where did he lie?
When people are angry and argue, it's because they are mad at someone and blame it on God. Please don't ruin your personal relationship with God over what man has done to you! All men will let you down but Jesus Christ will not for He has already won!
Amen! I would actually take it a step further and say it's important for us to let the anger go for the man who has wronged us.
I regret how many years of my life I spent blaming God for the faults of men… never again will I be so naive and immature
I love seeing Cliffe have a genuinely good time teaching
It’s unbelievable that these people think God reliability is based on the faith of the believer. Because in reality, we put our faith in God because our reliability in our own ability fails every time, proven time & time again. But God, is the same yesterday, today, & forever.
Learning about CHRIST and growing stronger in faith is like a muscle. Thank you Cliff for helping me get back to my faith and grow exponentially stronger, by critical and logical thinking. I cannot thank you enough. Content like this is worth way more than any amount of money on this planet.
Wow Cliffe, those patience is unbelievable. God bless you and all of our brothers and sisters in Christ.
I'm taking notes Cliffe!!!!
Good for u
Yeah spreading the Gospel isn't a choice, in doing God's will here on Earth, we need to let Him use us. Cliffe, handles this so well, it's good to learn from this channel. I have alot of friends who are unbelievers. I'm getting more confidence to approach them on this topic, thanks to the Word of God and learning from other preachers. God bless this channel ❤️.
God bless Cliff because he is in the trenches with the minds of the future, I love that there are students listening and hearing truth.
Dear Cliff, you are so patient, so long suffering, it can only be the gift of the Spirit.
your patience Cliff is so Loooooooonnng... sometimes I can't stand to listen to them I skip video.. GOD Blessed you
One of the most helpful lessons I have learned from watching Cliff is “ patience “ God bless you 🙏👏
thank for your patient with the education Cliffe. highly respect.
God bless you always
Many people don't have the discipline of dialogue! Cliffe does a terrific job with these guys - he has so much patience.
Back-to-back-to-back 21st century Cliffe Classics
Cliffe’s face @31:57 was so hilarious I had to start a Knechtle reaction folder 🤣 it’s so relatable!
Did an all-nighter, currently 6pm. learning a lot in the past 12 hours. Just podcasts of Cliff and Give me an answer (I've been Christian and following Jesus Christ i just enjoy how he articulates words) I'd love to have a philosophy sesh with Cliff like Socrates and other Philosophers. The way he paces and talks to people standing like that is literally what philosophers use to do. It's fascinating
Wow cliff is true preacher in our time,,, thanks be to God Amen🙏🙏🙏
'And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says, “Let all God’s angels worship him.” '
Hebrews 1:6
Jesus is GOD!
@@deannavarro777 yes
@@deannavarro777 No he's not. Who was born in Rev 12:5? And when did that take place? It wasn't God, and it wasn't before the heavens and earth were created.
@@antichrist_revealed weak bait
@@matheus_fulcher True scripture. Prove it wrong.
I’ve watched hundreds of these episodes and for the life of me I can’t help but notice that for the most part in episodes (from the time this episode was recorded and further back) that the students seem so much more respectful and more open to ideas, deeper questions, and discussion. I don’t know what happened to change this
The world and the devil
Culture changed it.
@@jimmymadeit.1992 Who's behind the culture?
Yea with all the social medias and technology.. makes people think they already got it all figured out
@@EchoGuzmancould be the devil, or it could be people's free will, I understand what you are saying but I argue you can't conclusively say it is the devil
Jesus Christ is King❤
Yes, he is but he is not the almighty God, co-equal or co-eternal.
“These will make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb will overcome them, for He is Lord of Lords and King of kings; and those who are with Him are called, chosen, and faithful.””
Revelation 17:14 NKJV
“And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father’s hand. I and My Father are one.””
John 10:28-30 NKJV
“And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.”
Matthew 28:18 NKJV
“Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.””
John 8:58 NKJV
Jesus does what the Father does and He says He is one with the Father, Jesus is one with the Father in divine nature meaning Jesus can do everything the Father can and only God can do that
@@MO-hq4iz equality with the Father is not a concept to be grasped , we know He is equal to the Father in divine nature, and has the same attributes
, we are creation and cannot understand in a human sense , but God extends past our thoughts , He can be one in divine nature and have 3 forms
@@Only1heze No, Jesus did not claim to be God, nor does the bible support the Trinity doctrine core elements.
Angels as “gods” and “sons of God”:
Psalm 82:1: “God presides in the great assembly; he renders judgment among the ‘gods.'”
Argument: This verse indicates that the term “gods” refer to angels as heavenly beings.
Job 1:6: “One day the angels came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came with them.”
Argument: The term “sons of God” is used in other translations, showing that the title is not exclusive to Jesus and refer to angels.
Jesus’ Distinct Nature and Subordination:
Mark 13:32: “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.”
Argument: Jesus admits to not possessing the same level of knowledge as the Father, making a clear distinction in their knowledge and power.
John 20:17: “Jesus said, ‘Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.””
Argument: Jesus refers to the Father as “my God,” indicating not only a subordinate relationship and distinctness from the Father, but as worshipper of the Father.
1 Corinthians 11:3: “But I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God.”
Argument: Paul outlines a hierarchy where Christ is subject to God, emphasizing their distinct roles.
John 14:28: “You heard me say, ‘I am going away and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I.”
Argument: Jesus himself acknowledges that the Father is greater than He is, stating a hierarchical relationship.
Jesus as the Firstborn and Beginning:
Colossians 1:15: “The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.”
Argument: The term “firstborn” states that Jesus had a beginning, indicating He is not co-eternal with the Father, but is born as in created, but the first of all creations.
Proverbs 8:22-30 (interpreted by some as a reference to Jesus as divine wisdom): “The Lord brought me forth as the first of his works, before his deeds of old; I was formed long ages ago, at the very beginning, when the world came to be.”
Argument: If interpreted as referring to Jesus, this passage suggests He was the first of God’s creations, emphasizing a starting point in time.
Revelation 1:8: “‘I am the Alpha and the Omega,’ says the Lord God, ‘who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.'”
Argument: This verse emphasizes that it’s the “Lord God” speaking, not Jesus, underscoring Jehovah’s unique eternal nature.
Revelation 3:14: “To the angel of the church in Laodicea write: These are the words of the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of God’s creation.”
Argument: Jesus is here name the beginning of God’s creation, meaning he is part of creation, and the beginning or firstborn of creations
Jesus’ Future Subordination:
1 Corinthians 15:24-28: “Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority, and power… When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.”
Argument: This passage describes a future time when Jesus will hand over the kingdom to God the Father and be subject to Him, emphasizing their distinct roles and Jesus’ subordination, meaning His is no co-equal in the future either.
The Holy Spirit Described as a “Spirit”:
John 14:26: “But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you.”
Argument: The term “spirit” in both the Old and New Testaments refers to a force or power, not a person. In this context, the Holy Spirit is described as an advocate or helper, but not as a separate individual.
The Holy Spirit depicted as the “Finger” of God:
Luke 11:20: “But if I drive out demons by the finger of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.”
Argument: Jesus describes the Holy Spirit as the “finger of God,” a metaphorical expression that emphasizes the Spirit’s role as an extension of God’s power and will, rather than as a person.
The Holy Spirit Non-Personified Characteristics:
Acts 2:17-18: “‘In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams. Even on my servants, both men and women, I will pour out my Spirit in those days, and they will prophesy.'”
Argument: The Holy Spirit is described as something that can be “poured out,” a characteristic not in line with a person.
The Holy Spirit Not Explicitly Called “God”:
While the Father and the Son are frequently referred to as “God” in various contexts, the Holy Spirit is never explicitly given this title in the scriptures.
Argument: The absence of this direct designation further distinguishes the Holy Spirit from the personhood often attributed to the Father and the Son.
Baptism in the Name of the Holy Spirit:
Matthew 28:19: “Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.”
Argument: Being baptized in the name of the Holy Spirit does not confer personhood or divinity to the Spirit. In many biblical contexts, doing something “in the name of” means doing it by the authority or power of someone or something. Thus, this baptismal formula can be understood as recognizing the authority and roles of the Father and Son without implying that all three are distinct persons or co-equal.
The doctrine dosen’t thorough examination of the Bible (NIV), have any substantial evidence that supported the Trinity view. The scriptures emphasize the distinct nature and roles of Jesus and Jehovah, suggesting that they are not co-equal or co-eternal. That the Holy Spirit is not a person, nor co-equal or co-eternal.
Excited to watch after a long night shift and get some knowledge. Thanks for posting again!
God loves everyone
Yeah??????
@@RobertQuinones-qo6wi He does. But whether you understand what is meant by God loves everyone is a different story.
Humans talking some pseudo intellecutal stuff just to avoid admitting the core point: "I don't want Jesus in my life because I do not want to give up on sin".
In my experience, when I am actively living in sin without trying to change, it is comforting to believe that not all of the Bible is true or that maybe God isn’t even real. It was a big, surprising moment for me when I realized how much pride I had. I knew I acted selfishly, but did not even consider myself prideful. I mean, it’s not like I’ve totally overcome my pride, but I now acknowledge it. I wonder if the green t-shirt guy doesn’t even realize the pride it takes to think how he does. It’s been like 20 years since this was. I pray that he’s had an honest reflection and humbly accepts Jesus as savior.
Funny thing is we truly never give up sinning, we continue, but we struggle to do it less and less and truly repent when we do. And hopefully we get to the point where temptation to sin is so low that it's rare but still there.
cliff is the best god bless this man and his family really changed my life jesus is king thank you cliff.
❤ I love how Mr Cliff teachese us how to think
This was a good one, Cliffe has a gift like very few and I’m so glad I got to enjoy his perspectives and council all these years. Can’t wait to hang with him in Heaven.
I’ve been watching these videos for quite some time now. I feel the calling on my life to defend the faith. But I truly get mentally drained watching Cliff answer these questions.. Only by the power of the Holy Spirit. May God continue to use you for many more years according to his will! God bless you my brother in Christ
You can really notice the differences in thought processes in the various universities. God bless Cliffe for spreading rational thought to all kids.
Relying on 2000 years of hearsay is rational thought? Lol, how about focusing on proof that is happening right now? Ooooh, that's right, there isn't any.
@@markinson8019 Not hearsay sir. Words that were written down and have been the same for roughly 2000 years.
@@Ornste1n Lol, you don't have the slightest clue what hearsay is.
@@markinson8019 then explain it to me please
@@Ornste1n Okay, go read the Federal Rules of Evidence 801-807.
“We don’t know anything for sure…” “Anything is possible…” “All of this can’t be proved” Life isn’t based on proof, it’s based on evidence & what possesses the most concrete evidence. Getting in touch with truth/reality. No one lives life based on proof, no one goes around saying “hey I don’t know anything so it’s whatever”. We ultimately put our faith in people, places & things because of the evidence said subject bestowed upon us. Christ did it best ✝️
Is Amazing how calm he is and waiting on the Holy Spirit to tell him what to said. I prayed for those students that have the veil on, in the name of Jesus, veil off!!
Amen, he is good and also reliable.
Watching cliffe is such a good way to learn how to debate, because when someone is deep in emotion, because they probably don’t debate much, like to change the subject. Cliffe always keeps the conversation on one topic
I really enjoy his teachings of how he explains to the high tech students.
I pray to have half the patience Cliffe does. It's truly a virtue
The last minute of this was so on point. Cliffe really brought it home!
Cliffe is always honest and brilliant. God bless.
A deceiver and not so brilliant, like Satan is.
May God bless you and keep you standing healthy and spreading the Gospel to every creature on earth! Greetings from Venezuela.
My alma mater FIU!! Wowww I wish I could have been there! God bless Cliffe and everything he does!
Cliffe saved my life and brought me closer to Jesus Christ 🙏🏻
Jesus saved your life , he knows who and what to use to bring you closer to him. He knew I loved cliffes video in the beginning of my walk with Jesus , I fell back for awhile and now here I am again. Praise Jesus.
God bless Cliffe. Love this message!
I hope I meet this man one day
Wow, The young cliff was burning 🔥
Lovin it from Toronto Canada 🇨🇦
God bless you, Cliff! I LOVE listening to you; but listening to the 'fools' who disavow God, is so very difficult to listen too!
Thow shall have only 1 desire, and that's to please the LORD.
Everything we do should be pleasing to GOD.
You do a great job of answering the hard questions 😊
👍👍👍 this is good I've learned something very important damn "💙 Love You God" right on cliffe
First to say Amen!
Thank you Cliffe, because of Jesus I found Islam, the ultimate truth
Just wow. What an absolute gold. Cliffe is the man. Jesus's mail man
"For many will come in My name, saying, 'I am the Christ,' and will deceive many." "Then many false prophets will rise up and deceive many." Deception and Many go hand in hand. Listening to them will show you who they are. Hint: Jesus is not God, and no one should ever teach that he is.
@@antichrist_revealed funny how someone quotes Jesus's words to make their point and then claims that Jesus is not God. Man you atheists r funny. U just figuratively shot urself in a leg. Bravo!!!
@@antichrist_revealed Jesus is a true God revealed in flesh and there is nothing you or anyone else can do to change that blessed fact. And Cliffe is one of Jesus's greatest followers who shows the world the amazing news of our Lord and savior Jesus Christ. All of what i said is backed up by evidence. U have no evidence of what u claim. Decent try tho.
@@6ohpowertower612 Rev 12:5 shows the birth of Jesus in heaven. Bible facts of Gen 1:1 to 1:19 show this was after the 4th day of creation. Therefore, Jesus was not with God in the beginning as he didn't even exist.
If Jesus didn't exist, and God created all things just as he claims, then there is no way Jesus is God or part of a Triune God. Therefore,. the Word was God, not Jesus. Just as John said it was. And so did Jesus in John 14:24.
I can back up everything I say. You can't back up anything. And neither can Cliffe.
Jesus is not God, and nowhere in the bible does it say he was.
@@antichrist_revealed AGAIN you use the Bible to make your point of Jesus not being God but You pick and choose what to believe or not to believe from the Bible just to try and make a point which doesnt work at all. Clearly New Testament has many references where Jesus accepts worship AND claims to be God. You just cant interpret or read. Also, nowhere does Rev 12:5 says Jesus was born in heaven. It talks about John seeing a "woman" aka Israel produce a child that will rule all the nations. Nowhere it mentions Jesus being born in heaven. And thirdly Gen 1:1- 1:19 doesnt mention creation of Jesus. CLEARLY John says " In the begging was the WORD" (LOGOS) aka Jesus. "And the WORD was with God" aka Jesus was with the Father and not created by Father. "AND the WORD was God" John 1:1 aka Jesus was with the Father which means that Jesus IS God.You know nothing and you can't read or understand reading. Now go sit down on a porch and rethink your life. Cliffe would wipe the intelectual floor with you while reading morning newspaper.
BANGER EPISODE STRAIGHT COOKING
Seeing Cliffe smile and laugh with the students is so wholesome! Feels like he’s attacked by so many people.
39:39 the one in the green shirt probably was going through a spiritual and an identity crisis. I wonder how he's doing now 😢
I hope he surrendered to Christ
We must come to a knowledge of the truth.
Consistency is the curse of all lies and pointer of truth
I love watching these videos cause I’m learning something ☺️
Sheesh man! This was rough to watch. You handled it perfectly. I hope I can witness to people half as good as Cliffe does one day
This man said “AND” like he finally realized he wrong smh god bless pls 🙏
School looks like the path to ungodly ways good to have cliff
This is by far the most heated video of cliff I’ve seen ❤
Jesus Christ is the king of kings!! Amen 🙏
Love you Lord Jesus Christ you are my King, my Lord, my God and My Savior. Thank you God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit
I was in Grade 11 when this came out
I was starting my senior year around this time.
First of all, the young man doesn't know how to listen. He's rude and doesn't know when to shut up. Cliff read him right. He believes everything that comes out of his month. God bless you Cliff!
Seek first to seeth you free🙏🙏
I gotta say, I’m a conservative, but agnostic. These arguments are some I haven’t heard before, I haven’t ever thought about faith in everyday life. He’s correct obviously, and that has always been a hangup of mine. Admittedly I’ve been moving more in a religious direction recently but this is actually really helpful.
That guy in the green shirt got blinded by his emotions. He got so defensive. Essentially he fears H311, but he also doesn't want to follow God's way. The problem is that he doesn't understand Heaven and H311. And why his rejection of God's ways will still land him in H311. Heaven is Eternity with God. H311 is separation from God. By choosing not to follow Jesus's ways, he's giving the birdie to Him and therefore has chosen to separate.
Exactly!
Hopefully he came back to Christ
@@HtownRO Hopefully.
I was just thinking this. All of this is such a front, its all the same nonsense we all used to say. Its because we know we have to make a choice, between good and evil, and rather than give up what we love which is evil and pursue good (which is hard) we say "there isn't actually a choice to make, so I can just keep on living with one foot in each grave."
To quote Cliff, its total baloney. I believe it is literally denial of morality. Like Schrodinger's box here we know that which is good is good, but once we admit we know what is good and what is wrong the suspension of credible naivety is shattered and we won't have any actual excuse to keep sinning.
I like it when I hear Cliffe talking about the bible as "not the word of God". Because some Christians today seems to have evolved from trinity teachings to quadruple (or whatever term to describe it) teachings. The bible is a good source for learning about God and early Christian andcJewish history. We can surely find lots of wisdom in the bible. But we must be careful not to idol worship the bible.
If we truly believe the bible is the word of God and infallible we got a problem. We would need to decide on which bible. Protestants have 66, Catholics have 73, Greek Orthodox have 76 the Etiopean Orthodox Church have 81. And there are Xhristians in the middle east with even bigger canons than that. If we think our, the shortest one of them all, is the word og God, the extra books in other churches are heretic then? Or maybe our bible is just part of Gods word?
Then of course different translations into the English language is a problem on top of that again. And some translations seem to miss out some rather important information at times.
The guy in the hoodie,,,”dude, just chill cause you’re not making sense”😳😇🤣🤣🤣
Most people think they know all the answers to their questions
“In their case the prophecy of Isaiah is being fulfilled, which says, ‘You will keep on hearing, but will not understand; You will keep on seeing, but will not perceive; For the heart of this people has become dull, With their ears they scarcely hear, And they have closed their eyes, Otherwise they would see with their eyes, Hear with their ears, And understand with their heart and return, And I would heal them.’”
Matthew 13:14-15
Cliffe smackin on that peppermint 🤣
I used to worship myself.... but at least I was honest about it... I didn't mince words about it. I was a Satanist, and I meant it at the time.
Now, that was largely because I was raised by a Christian hypocrite, and treated like the source of all negativity in the universe.
Glad I had my NDE.
I AM in English doesn’t sound like a claim to divinity but he spoke Hebrew and Aramaic so I AM was absolutely claiming godhood
Green shirt is easy to spot out. He is basically a spiritual sovereign citizen. Wants all of the rights but doesn’t want to adhere to any of the laws. Cliffe was just letting him down easily to not embarrass him lol
Believing in Jesus Christ is not a gamble. You know for sure that he leads you and fellowships with you.
The law was given for us to see that each one of us are sinners and we cannot of ourselves save us. We need a Savior. The One and Only God, Jesus Christ was the Savior for the world. God sees every sin the same because as sinners we cannot be in the presence of a Holy God. He hates all sin the same whether we lie, or kill.
3:28 jesus did say "my pol perish for a lack of knowledge"so thats the only thing i would push back on
i get what you’re saying brother but in that verse God says HIS people. People who are already with Him are perishing for a lack of knowledge, but as the New Testament also points to is that the knowledge/intelligence is not a defining factor of salvation but I think more importantly in the context of Cliffe’s statement he’s saying that Jesus knows that our problem wasn’t a knowledge issue but truly a deeper sin issue (for both people who don’t belong to God and those who are His people). I will have to say though that I did think of that verse immediately when he said that lol
And I would push back that knowledge can be spiritual knowledge, knowledge isn’t limited to the fields the school system accepted.
"My opinion" "My THoughts" "I think" "I experience" "I believe" "My personal experience" "My judgement" "What I've read" "What I've seen"
The man in green 's ultimate standard of right and wrong is himself.
And this is when Jesus would say to clean the dust from your sandals on your way out, many will reject the gospel. They saw Jesus themselves make miracles and still rejected Him. It breaks my heart to hear these guys be so blinded 😢
outstanding
Some days ago I had an argument like this one Cliff had at the end of the video. These types of people are so annoying like they refuse to listen to you and then say that you don't have arguments it's' so toxic
The guy in the green didnt want beliefs that were passed down but says his beliefs were passed down. I hope he sees this and realizes his error.
In Matthew 7:21, Jesus says, "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven." How can I be sure that I truly believe in God, have fully put my trust in Him, and committed my life to Him, given that it is possible to think I believe in him ,where as Im running away from him?
Let Cliff cook 🎉
I like the Big Bang I believe that's where God started the universe not from nothing but from something which is God. And I think a lot of kids like to argue and be offended because of evil events that happened in history they like to put on God. When it goes deeper than that. When you start contradicting yourself that means you have a lot more to learn about the subject.
"I'm the mail man delivering Jesus mail" bars lol
Epic conclusion
9mins in- Cliffe hittin home runs, speaking my language- philo. Science is faith in evidence seen for unseen. science is human glasses/lenses/arts-n-crafts assisted-sight tools to see god.
23:49 "Then don't tell us that us Athiest are going to hell." So, if you care about someone's opinion on your afterlife, you must believe in Jesus. Why would an atheist worry about such things? It sounds like he's afraid of facing the truth and it looks as if him and his dad (deacon) had this argument. He's not arguing with Cliff, he's arguing with the spirit of his dad.
To anyone dealing with depression or feeling low, don’t give up on life, no matter what bad things happened in your past, don’t let them define you or control your destiny, you are all important and loved!, there is hope for all of us!
Jesus loves you all ✝️, get to know God through Christ 📖
I AM!