always great to hear feedback from someone trying out a trials bike for the first time. thanks for posting. As others have stated it looks like too much air pressure in your tires. I see you struggling with the big log... your front tire needs to make more contact. Everytime you hit your skidplate, it is because you have missed hitting your front tire. If its undercut in the other side you can zap the log and carry the front tire over the other side.
Agree. I noticed this about his jumping the logs. He needs to look at an instructional video about jumping logs and he will get it in no time. Looks like a good rider to me.
Just recently bought an Electric Motion Escape R. It's opening up a new world of riding. Balance, accuracy, suspension and leverage. And a heck of a work out. 😉
@@JasonHamborg So far it has been fun. I've ridden it three times, about five hours total. Battery is still at 65%. Very mellow riding, though. Basically balance drills, practicing wheelies and going over small obstacles. Definitely a good way to cross train. Just waiting for the snow to melt some more. Sick of winter. Did you keep the GasGas?
I'd say give it another go but get trials boots and don't go directly to trails but put some time to get the feel and balance just in your backyard (or even in your garage during the winter). I agree others with slightly lowering pressure but even more hitting that front wheel on the object. It's always a fail when trials bike gets a hit on the bashplate. I got trials bike couple years ago and also have limited time to play with bikes - but trials bike is so easy to approach by just wearing anything and trials helmet doing some balancing and other technique training anywhere. 1-2 hour can be enough while proper enduro training takes most of the day with gearing up etc.. I agree with you that trials bike really reveals everything done wrong with enduro bike and it always needs to be actively ridden as it doesn't carry a 'passenger' like heavier enduro bike does. It also points out that pushing the bike from handlebar is just removing traction from rear wheel but it's easier to understand when the wheel is not even touching the ground =) Great content!
Great vid, I’ve been curious too. Also came to the comments section to see if anyone had the solution to getting over that log. If you try it again with 5psi less, it would be cool to see.
Yeah, honestly my biggest challenge is the engagement point on the clutch compared to my YZ... its very different and makes timing the bigger stuff really awkward.
Yeah, I was doing my best, the biggest challenge with that bike was how different the engagement point was with the clutch compared to my YZ. My timing was WAY off.
For me it does increase i ride time, because i can spend 30 minutes to an hour after work fooling around on rocks and logs in the yard. its quiet and doesn't need the space that an enduro does. when i got a whole day i'll take the enduro 100% of the time and cover some ground.
It is going to be hard if we don't start from the basics.. It's a totally different from riding normal bikes.. Get back to basic, make lots of practise and gradually level up the skills.. 👍👍
I know why you were struggling! You weren’t wearing a proper trials helmet 😂… all jokes aside it looked to me like your rear tire was a little to stiff.. try running 3 to 5 psi next time.. big difference
You need to drive the front wheel harder into the tree to get over it. Watching you, your not even compressing the front suspension, and if your not compressing the front suspension, that means your not compressing the back suspension either, so you have ZERO lift. Don't try to double blip (as I see you are trying to do), just ride up to the tree, then pull a wheelie just high enough that your front wheel hits just above the tree centreline (of course your speed needs to be right based on the size of the tree), but you will glide over it if you do what I say, and hit it at the right speed..........
I forgot to mention..... At the moment the front wheel hits the tree, you need to push your legs into the bike (further compressing the suspension), then immediately unweight the bike, allowing it to rise rapidly from its fully compressed state, and it will literally jump over the tree.
always great to hear feedback from someone trying out a trials bike for the first time. thanks for posting. As others have stated it looks like too much air pressure in your tires. I see you struggling with the big log... your front tire needs to make more contact. Everytime you hit your skidplate, it is because you have missed hitting your front tire. If its undercut in the other side you can zap the log and carry the front tire over the other side.
Agree. I noticed this about his jumping the logs. He needs to look at an instructional video about jumping logs and he will get it in no time. Looks like a good rider to me.
Excellent video. Provides insight into differences, and insight into challenges. Thank you.
Cheers!
Just recently bought an Electric Motion Escape R. It's opening up a new world of riding. Balance, accuracy, suspension and leverage. And a heck of a work out. 😉
Those bikes look so rad!
@@JasonHamborg So far it has been fun. I've ridden it three times, about five hours total. Battery is still at 65%. Very mellow riding, though. Basically balance drills, practicing wheelies and going over small obstacles. Definitely a good way to cross train. Just waiting for the snow to melt some more. Sick of winter. Did you keep the GasGas?
No it was just a shop demo
Fun video. I am new to trials after not doing off-road since motocross in 1978. So yeah, I can relate! The log sequence at the end made me laugh!
Thanks Dan! Haha
Sweet new trials bike
I'd say give it another go but get trials boots and don't go directly to trails but put some time to get the feel and balance just in your backyard (or even in your garage during the winter). I agree others with slightly lowering pressure but even more hitting that front wheel on the object. It's always a fail when trials bike gets a hit on the bashplate.
I got trials bike couple years ago and also have limited time to play with bikes - but trials bike is so easy to approach by just wearing anything and trials helmet doing some balancing and other technique training anywhere. 1-2 hour can be enough while proper enduro training takes most of the day with gearing up etc..
I agree with you that trials bike really reveals everything done wrong with enduro bike and it always needs to be actively ridden as it doesn't carry a 'passenger' like heavier enduro bike does. It also points out that pushing the bike from handlebar is just removing traction from rear wheel but it's easier to understand when the wheel is not even touching the ground =)
Great content!
Great vid, I’ve been curious too. Also came to the comments section to see if anyone had the solution to getting over that log. If you try it again with 5psi less, it would be cool to see.
Yeah, honestly my biggest challenge is the engagement point on the clutch compared to my YZ... its very different and makes timing the bigger stuff really awkward.
Ya need to compress the front fork INTO the log a bit. Hit it a little lower, skimming it gets you nothing.
Should only be running around 4 to begin with.
@@JasonHamborgI think I have the answer to that log now
@@jabbabbabbathat’s one way. But they log is small enough to get over without compressing the front.
Put your front tire against the log compressing the front and rear suspension as they start to rebound jump off the pegs and release the clutch
Yeah, I was doing my best, the biggest challenge with that bike was how different the engagement point was with the clutch compared to my YZ. My timing was WAY off.
For me it does increase i ride time, because i can spend 30 minutes to an hour after work fooling around on rocks and logs in the yard. its quiet and doesn't need the space that an enduro does. when i got a whole day i'll take the enduro 100% of the time and cover some ground.
You've seen yourself off here mate. You're not wearing trials boots. It's like setting difficulty to 11. :D
Hahah fair enough 😅
rear tire pressure is too high, drop it to 4-5 lbs
It is going to be hard if we don't start from the basics.. It's a totally different from riding normal bikes.. Get back to basic, make lots of practise and gradually level up the skills.. 👍👍
Enduro is played with a hammer, trials is played with ballet shoes
I know why you were struggling! You weren’t wearing a proper trials helmet 😂… all jokes aside it looked to me like your rear tire was a little to stiff.. try running 3 to 5 psi next time.. big difference
Hahah pants weren't tight enough and my chin was too protected 😅
@SGT Simmons Very interesting... just better visibility?
@@JasonHamborg there you go! put on the open face you’ll be the next Toni bou
You need some mates to ride with, makes it a world more fun.
You need to drive the front wheel harder into the tree to get over it. Watching you, your not even compressing the front suspension, and if your not compressing the front suspension, that means your not compressing the back suspension either, so you have ZERO lift. Don't try to double blip (as I see you are trying to do), just ride up to the tree, then pull a wheelie just high enough that your front wheel hits just above the tree centreline (of course your speed needs to be right based on the size of the tree), but you will glide over it if you do what I say, and hit it at the right speed..........
I forgot to mention..... At the moment the front wheel hits the tree, you need to push your legs into the bike (further compressing the suspension), then immediately unweight the bike, allowing it to rise rapidly from its fully compressed state, and it will literally jump over the tree.
Agree with needing to keep the front wheel hitting log. Loads suspension, transfers weight.