Some people don’t enjoy the skill in ventriloquism, but I think it’s HILLARIOUS because the jarring nature of when he talks/sings in his real voice, and isa just Good
I still can't go over the amount of people complaining about the ventriloquism. The play is meant to be a vaudeville so it makes sense for the actor to actually do the ventriloquism if he can and he still moves his mouth around and talks for her. There were even people complaining about the long note? WHAT???
I love it! I saw the actor in the Korean version of this number doing it so well and it made me happy to see. The whole point of the number is that Billy is orchestrating the whole thing, what better way to show that than him literally putting words in Roxie’s mouth?
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the woman does say almost.... plus you want to see it done with true ventriloquism look for the Korean production on youtube th-cam.com/video/u0mU5IS6gcc/w-d-xo.html Choi Ja Rim actually DOES ventriloquism in the number - turns out he had trained in his younger days..
Since the leads are wearing mic's, they don't need as much effort to project their voices. On Broadway, they wouldn't use microphones, so they would have to project their voices more. Of course, in live theater, you don't have camera close-ups so you would barely notice his lips move, but as pointed out in other comments, part of the joke/humor is that you can see his lips move.
3:12 I love that he does that move and the doll gets up and continues ((I know almost nothing about this show just a few songs I’ve heard and never seen))
righttt like that part makes me laugh so hard. but the guy is actually her lawyer and shes a real person, he's just feeding her lines to say so that her sentence will be reduced or maybe make her not convicted
Very nice, she is good and he has a remarkable tenor voice. But after seeing the movie first, I'm spoiled and now expect something like the movie scene every time I see a performance of this number, though that's impossible to do on stage. One thing I realized lately is that in the stage musical, the lawyer Flynn is actually a lover of Mary Sunshine, the female reporter who's in many scenes. That's not clear at all from the movie, where she was played by Christine Baranski.
The only thing I feel miss from this is the ventriloquist dropping the appearances in the last "when we both reached for the gun" before the big dance and the finale. Like, it was always my favourite part of the prestation, how after having well crafted this story and made Roxy says it, he drops the act when the word is finally out as truth, because whatever he does now, everyone knows the lie and accept it as truth. Other than that, boy was this really amazing !
This is impressive from a technical standpoint, with the vocal throwing and all, but I think it misses the point of the original musical--the fact that we SEE Billy's lips move during other variations of this number highlights just how little he actually cares about going above the law, as well as how blind--or complicit--the press corps is in his form of legal theater. It kind of robs the underlying subtext of the number by having him, ironically, actually be skilled at ventriloquism. Still, great rendition, and incredibly, incredibly fun to watch.
Station 5 I agree, it still has the subtext though of what you’re talking about, however in this version it’s just a little more complex to understand (especially if someone hasn’t watched other versions)
Well Mama did say notice how his mouth almost never moves which kinda alludes to ventriloquism here, so it's not much of a surprise he actually does ventriloquism during this song, compared to most versions where his lips move more
I love this piece, one of my two most favourite songs from Chicago and the most fun to play. I know both the lyrics and the music by heart as I am a pianist trained in classical as well as modern music by a professional theatre and philharmonic orchestra piano player and I can honestly say this “are you kidding?” is the best one out there (and yes, that is the best part as far as I am concerned by which I judge all performances of this song). And for that alone, it deserves every bit of recognition.
Excellent observation, I got to see Gwen Verdon perform this many many times (I was an usher in my HS/college days). I agree this interpretation was excellent. The "are you kiddin'" needs to be cynical and totally in Roxie's character, or it doesn't anchor the performance. If that's the right analogy?
Do half of these commenters complaining about the production realize this is nothing new? This is the same production/ general direction/ costumes of the 1996 revival which brought the musical back into public eye and is the definitive version.
A lot of people think they hold a definitive opinion on whether this was a good version or not. Billy was very skilled, that's hard to deny, but it's really a matter of taste whether you liked his real ventriloquism or not.
I mean he was moving around a lot beforehand, and probably has been performing a lot in the days leading up to it. I interpret it as Billy’s true talent is only really his manipulation, and that in and of himself he’s not all that impressive. I know it was an accident but I feel it could easily be treated as part of the act!
와우 저렇게 총기 사건을 정당방어로 빠져 나가는 구나 춤추고 노래 하고 하면서 ㅋㅋㅋ 록시하트 마리오네트 연기 정말 잘하네.. 국내 연기자들 보다 훨 낫다 확실히 그리고 역시 전 변호사 역할은 저렇게 어느정도 나이가 있는 40~50대 노련하고 노회한 사람이 하는 게 맞음
U heard mama tho. Notice how his mouth almost never moves. It is basically a ventriloquist act so it helps if ur lips don't move as much to make it look convincing
@@eljordinio7647 But Billy Flynn is supposed to not care about the law, so the audience needs to see his lips moving. So they know he's feeding her lines
@@andrewbrasfield1104 that’s not the point, of course the audience knows what’s going on. However, it’s about the art of how you portray the story. Besides, him doing the whole thing without moving his lips really limits his abilities to hit certain notes.
@@kyleneopperman6186 this is my problem with the dedication to ventriloquism in this version. especially the "we both we both we both etc" part, he was out of pocket for most of it because he was pushing to make the words enunciated enough to be understandable. when the music itself works so well when it's perfectly on beat, anything off just sounds a little off-putting.
All the comments about the ventriloquism, but his voice is overly cartoony for no real reason. He could get across that he’s doing her voice without the silly voice. And her facial expressions come off very stern. I have seen the stage show, as well as the movie, and this is just not the “greatest” version like some people are claiming.
Having performed twice as Billy Flynn in the UK, I am surprised at some of the lack of theatrical knowledge by some people. Presume they are swayed by film and television.
Best version of this song cos that ventriloquism was on the money. Mama did say notice how his mouth never moves, almost, and that's exactly what we got. U could hardly see his lips move during "Roxie's" lines
복화술이라는게 얼마나 그 사람 입이 티가 안나느냐가 아니라, 한국이랑 미국 영상을 비교해보니 지금 미국 영상은 남자가 복화술 할때 여자쪽으로 시선이 자연스럽게 감. 그러다가 남자가 입을 크게 움직이면 다시 남자쪽으로 시선이 감. 근데 한국 영상은 그냥 내내 최재림 입모양만 계속 쳐다보게 됨. 이게 원조 버젼과 한국 버젼의 차이.
No sé de arte Sólo amo el arte No busco el error o crítica Sólo disfruto el sentir que mi corazón late muy fuerte cuando veo y escucho la danza, el canto y la actuación de todos los que tienen la fortuna y honor de subir y estar en un escenario
This is not really faithful to the original... also Billy's part at the end on: "the" was so all over the map and was not even held that long I am confused about this video. If you can explain what happened I would be interested.
why you should shave before a show (you're on Broadway for heaven's sake) met Brett Barrett once MANY MNAY years ago during the tour of Grand Hotel really nice guy.
This is the number you’ll hear after Biden is shunted out at the convention… in stead of “the both reached for the gun” it’ll be “it’s the man not the party”. Lol, mark my words
Robbie Hagberg I think you should be there at 10 minutes or so if you want to do it tomorrow or not yet but I don't think I will be able to get it tomorrow so I can go to the store if you want to do it tomorrow or not yet but if you want to 1920and 1958
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Some people don’t enjoy the skill in ventriloquism, but I think it’s HILLARIOUS because the jarring nature of when he talks/sings in his real voice, and isa just Good
I would pay damn good money to see Jeff Dunham preform this song. 😂
When he talks in his own voice he kinda sounds like Harry Shearer
Totally agree
The way he says "the convent of the sacred heart" at 0:20 cracks me up.
I still can't go over the amount of people complaining about the ventriloquism. The play is meant to be a vaudeville so it makes sense for the actor to actually do the ventriloquism if he can and he still moves his mouth around and talks for her. There were even people complaining about the long note? WHAT???
I love it! I saw the actor in the Korean version of this number doing it so well and it made me happy to see.
The whole point of the number is that Billy is orchestrating the whole thing, what better way to show that than him literally putting words in Roxie’s mouth?
the woman does say almost.... plus you want to see it done with true ventriloquism look for the Korean production on youtube th-cam.com/video/u0mU5IS6gcc/w-d-xo.html Choi Ja Rim actually DOES ventriloquism in the number - turns out he had trained in his younger days..
Loving this recording. Really commit to the ventriloquist aspect of the performance.
I actually like how in this version it seems that roxy is participating with him much more
Agreed! More interaction between them with smoother choreography than the Ann Reinking n David Naughton version
Oh so his lips actually don’t move in this version
•Chickens8 • almost
Lol
he’s really good though!!
Since the leads are wearing mic's, they don't need as much effort to project their voices. On Broadway, they wouldn't use microphones, so they would have to project their voices more. Of course, in live theater, you don't have camera close-ups so you would barely notice his lips move, but as pointed out in other comments, part of the joke/humor is that you can see his lips move.
I think I saw his lips move once, maybe twice. Ruined the whole musical.
3:12 I love that he does that move and the doll gets up and continues ((I know almost nothing about this show just a few songs I’ve heard and never seen))
righttt like that part makes me laugh so hard. but the guy is actually her lawyer and shes a real person, he's just feeding her lines to say so that her sentence will be reduced or maybe make her not convicted
The change of tone in Billy’s voice is so fucking funny-
Timestamp?
@@b.d6642 I might be wrong but I think they just mean between the ventriloquism and his own singing, so the whole song I guess
Theeeeeeeeee...................eeeeeeee.........eeeeeee........ gun
Flomnib The Almighty THE NOTE WAS ALL OVER THE PLACE
im glad im not the only one who didn’t like the note
The vibrato was a bit much and it did go a bit all over the place. Props to him for sustaining it tho
I actually liked that because it was clear that the character (Billie) was showing off and it wasn't meant to be taken seriously
@@b.d6642 very true tho man…as a musician that tuning had my ears pleading 💀
Very nice, she is good and he has a remarkable tenor voice. But after seeing the movie first, I'm spoiled and now expect something like the movie scene every time I see a performance of this number, though that's impossible to do on stage.
One thing I realized lately is that in the stage musical, the lawyer Flynn is actually a lover of Mary Sunshine, the female reporter who's in many scenes. That's not clear at all from the movie, where she was played by Christine Baranski.
yeah we're doing this musical in my high school and people are constantly joking that the two are in a relationship
Mary Sunshine is a man in drag in the stage productions. There's a reveal during the trial. They left all of that out of the movie.
The only thing I feel miss from this is the ventriloquist dropping the appearances in the last "when we both reached for the gun" before the big dance and the finale. Like, it was always my favourite part of the prestation, how after having well crafted this story and made Roxy says it, he drops the act when the word is finally out as truth, because whatever he does now, everyone knows the lie and accept it as truth.
Other than that, boy was this really amazing !
역시 원조는 다르다. 복화술 연기랑 목소리 변조 역시 완벽함 ㅠ
그르게 그래도 재림이짱 ㅜㅜ
원조는 50년전이에요 ㅋㅋ
그것보다도 그냥 의상, 배경 이런게 훨씬 자연스러워서 보는맛이있음 ㅋㅋ 완전 미국하면 떠오르는 옷들 한국사람들이 입고있어서 보면서 뭔가 이상하다 이상하다 했는데 이 영상 보니까 그 위화감이 어서 나온거였는지 딱알겠음 ㅋㅋ
@@stain307맞아요. 가사도 그래요.. 부자연스럽고 불편해서 찾아보니까 영어로는 귀가 너무나 편안한것..
(그래도 재림,경아님 영상들 재밌게 봤어요)
@@kimkyuhyun미국에서 왔으니 그게 어울린다는 소리겠지 ㅋㅋ
This is impressive from a technical standpoint, with the vocal throwing and all, but I think it misses the point of the original musical--the fact that we SEE Billy's lips move during other variations of this number highlights just how little he actually cares about going above the law, as well as how blind--or complicit--the press corps is in his form of legal theater. It kind of robs the underlying subtext of the number by having him, ironically, actually be skilled at ventriloquism.
Still, great rendition, and incredibly, incredibly fun to watch.
Station 5 I agree, it still has the subtext though of what you’re talking about, however in this version it’s just a little more complex to understand (especially if someone hasn’t watched other versions)
100% agree with this critique. His drawn out final note was way too over the top, also.
@@JM-fc9gm I think that's the point. Billy Flynn is someone who enjoys attention and being in the spotlight
Thanks for typing all of that out so I don't need to
Well Mama did say notice how his mouth almost never moves which kinda alludes to ventriloquism here, so it's not much of a surprise he actually does ventriloquism during this song, compared to most versions where his lips move more
1:15 whats buddy boy on the left looking at?
I love this piece, one of my two most favourite songs from Chicago and the most fun to play. I know both the lyrics and the music by heart as I am a pianist trained in classical as well as modern music by a professional theatre and philharmonic orchestra piano player and I can honestly say this “are you kidding?” is the best one out there (and yes, that is the best part as far as I am concerned by which I judge all performances of this song). And for that alone, it deserves every bit of recognition.
Excellent observation, I got to see Gwen Verdon perform this many many times (I was an usher in my HS/college days).
I agree this interpretation was excellent. The "are you kiddin'" needs to be cynical and totally in Roxie's character, or it doesn't anchor the performance. If that's the right analogy?
진짜 왜케 중독성있냐 하루에 시카고영상 세개는 무조건 보는듯
Same 😂
the fucking barking at sunshine made me cackle like a witch
오리지날의 위엄~ 정줄 놓고 봄...
시발 최재림 영상 보다보다 여기까지 왔네 미치겠다 진짜ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
3년전에도 저랑 같은 분이 계셨네요
와 여긴 여배우에 눈길이 간다. 확실히 인형같이 표정연기 잘하네
입술 싱크도 개쩜 진짜 저 여자가 저 목소리로 부르는거같음....
빌리 플렌 역 맡으신 남배우님 목소리가 진짜.....좋네여....ㅠㅜㅠㅜㅠㅜ 내한 기원........
검색해보니 빌리분 저 때 60세셨네. 대단함. 목소리 자체가 좋음. 여배우도 마냥 백치가 아니라 좋은듯
계속보게되는 마성의 시카고..
He’s an amazing Billy; love his voice!
Do half of these commenters complaining about the production realize this is nothing new?
This is the same production/ general direction/ costumes of the 1996 revival which brought the musical back into public eye and is the definitive version.
0:37 ; Miss Piggy be like
😂😂😂
The final note being so long (and offkey) was...interesting
It’s meant to be funny
2:55 tf is he doing LMAO
LOL
티파니꺼보고 무슨 상황인지 이해하러 왔습니다..
3년이 지나도 무슨상황인지 모르겠더군여 ㅋㅋ
3년이 지나도 윙크와 웃음을 버리지 못했더군요... 목각 인형을 모르나보@ㅏ여....
미국은 진짜 복고 미국식을 잘 느끼게 만든거 같아 한국 시카고는 현실 트렌드 반영이 물씬 느끼는거 같아
A lot of people think they hold a definitive opinion on whether this was a good version or not. Billy was very skilled, that's hard to deny, but it's really a matter of taste whether you liked his real ventriloquism or not.
Best acting ive ever seen for a BF. Sad that he was out of breath at the end but it must have been an isolated case
I mean he was moving around a lot beforehand, and probably has been performing a lot in the days leading up to it.
I interpret it as Billy’s true talent is only really his manipulation, and that in and of himself he’s not all that impressive. I know it was an accident but I feel it could easily be treated as part of the act!
@@madam-mintits kind of cool because its like he can’t keep up with his act
Some of you only watched the movie huh
표정이나 몸짓 과하게 하지 않으면서도 완벽하게 인형같음 그리고 목소리랑 입 모양이 완벽하게 일치해서 여자 본인 목소리같음 ㅇㅇ 영화버전이랑 다르게 독립적으로 너무 완벽함 서양인이라고 다 잘하는게 아니고 이 사람이 제일 잘함 ㅇㅇ
와우 저렇게 총기 사건을 정당방어로 빠져 나가는 구나
춤추고 노래 하고 하면서 ㅋㅋㅋ
록시하트 마리오네트 연기 정말 잘하네.. 국내 연기자들 보다 훨 낫다 확실히
그리고 역시 전 변호사 역할은 저렇게 어느정도 나이가 있는 40~50대 노련하고 노회한 사람이 하는 게 맞음
영어로 듣는데도 한국말로 듣는거보다 이해가 더 잘되네요 표정이나 바디로 다 표현이 되는듯요~역쉬 오리지널이 다르네요
Are her gestures (Roxy) choreographed? They're almost the same as the ones Melissa Rae Mahon did on Broadway.
복화술 미쳤다
I think the Billy in this one actually detracted away from the whole thing. The true ventriloquism actually stifled the performance
U heard mama tho. Notice how his mouth almost never moves. It is basically a ventriloquist act so it helps if ur lips don't move as much to make it look convincing
@@eljordinio7647 But Billy Flynn is supposed to not care about the law, so the audience needs to see his lips moving. So they know he's feeding her lines
@@Katie-ez2um well it’s pretty obvious it’s not her voice
@@andrewbrasfield1104 that’s not the point, of course the audience knows what’s going on. However, it’s about the art of how you portray the story. Besides, him doing the whole thing without moving his lips really limits his abilities to hit certain notes.
@@kyleneopperman6186 this is my problem with the dedication to ventriloquism in this version. especially the "we both we both we both etc" part, he was out of pocket for most of it because he was pushing to make the words enunciated enough to be understandable. when the music itself works so well when it's perfectly on beat, anything off just sounds a little off-putting.
I like he is doing actual ventriloquy
All the comments about the ventriloquism, but his voice is overly cartoony for no real reason. He could get across that he’s doing her voice without the silly voice. And her facial expressions come off very stern. I have seen the stage show, as well as the movie, and this is just not the “greatest” version like some people are claiming.
Completely agree. I don’t like this version at all.
와 ... 가서보고싶다
역시 원조다ㅠㅠㅠ
찐 미국느낌난다....ㅋㅋㅋㅋ대박
코로나때문에 한동안 올일도 없겠네...2017년에 갔어야했다...
Having performed twice as Billy Flynn in the UK, I am surprised at some of the lack of theatrical knowledge by some people. Presume they are swayed by film and television.
WOW, this is SLOW. It should be almost too fast and OOT vaudeville, that's the point.
Moira Russell When you actually have a ventriloquist you use that to your advantage so it’s slower
@@vanessaajohn but the point is that he isn't actually supposed to be a good ventriloquist
Gatekeep much?
이런게 예술이다...
1:14 I think the guy on the left is checking her out
Lol, id bet the guy is gay
이거 보다 한국꺼 보면 짜침ㅋ
I like almost all the versions but I can't deny, the Brazilian version of this music it get me everytime
Best version of this song cos that ventriloquism was on the money. Mama did say notice how his mouth never moves, almost, and that's exactly what we got. U could hardly see his lips move during "Roxie's" lines
복화술이라는게 얼마나 그 사람 입이 티가 안나느냐가 아니라,
한국이랑 미국 영상을 비교해보니
지금 미국 영상은 남자가 복화술 할때 여자쪽으로 시선이 자연스럽게 감.
그러다가 남자가 입을 크게 움직이면 다시 남자쪽으로 시선이 감.
근데 한국 영상은 그냥 내내 최재림 입모양만 계속 쳐다보게 됨.
이게 원조 버젼과 한국 버젼의 차이.
최재림은 잘하는데 파트너인 티파니 연기가 너무 폭망이라그럼ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
WHEN HE STARTED BARKING AT HER I--
잘하긴 진짜 잘하네
it's all defensible...
* clockering sounds of chickens mating *
No sé de arte
Sólo amo el arte
No busco el error o crítica
Sólo disfruto el sentir que mi corazón late muy fuerte cuando veo y escucho la danza, el canto y la actuación de todos los que tienen la fortuna y honor de subir y estar en un escenario
How come Billy looks like Onision?
I love this playful skit and song. The actors did a great job!
개신기하다...
이거 볼 때마다 레전드 무대네
뮤알못이지만 티파니 욕먹는 이유는 알겠네 수준차이가 넘사네
Good job except for the ill-advised high G at the end. That's more of an opera baritone's note, not a broadway baritone.
The dancing and the acting and just it all is naturally amazing. Its a musical....... they are always amazing, even the shit ones are amazing
gurl the uncontrollable vibrate on billy though he eats but like way to much mamas
This is a choice, respectfully it’s not the choice I would have chose… but it was a clear choice.
노트르담의 파리는 원조랑 한국이랑 별차이못느꼈는데 시카고는 심하네요
What’s with the hate on Tiffany? Yeah maybe she was too lifelike but I quite enjoyed it. She’s not a professional theatre actress.
지리긴한다..... 차원이 다르네..
Im trying to study for my part as Mary Sunshine.... Guys im worried lmao
I bet you did great!
와 ... 한국 록시는 비교가 안되네 진짜 인형 조종하듯히 하네
오리지날은 역시..
역시 순정이 최고다
돌고돌아 순정
who cast ms. piggy as that one reporter LMAO
NOOOOOO, I JUST POSTED THAT BEFORE I SAW YOURS
Why do the reporters seem like they work a second job at the whoopie spot and had no time to change.
It's not that great.
Richard still is better lol
The original is a 1000 times better.
This is hilariously spectacular
wow really love how this scene was executed in the movies imo better than the original version
Probably because they weren't dressed like 50 Shades of gray the musical
Why does the dummy have a mic?
요거 보면 한국꺼 못봄
체인점이 아무리 잘해도 원조집의 아류일 뿐이라는 점을 다시 한 번 느끼고 갑니다
이거 보고 시카고는 본토에서 봐야겠다 생각했음
Barrett is so handsome!
잶 플린 보다가 여기까지 왔다.... ㅋ
Pitchy 🥴
Yikes! 🎵🎵🎵
Oh my gosh. I saw Brent Barret do it many years ago. Excellent. His face here looks, well, different.
This is not as good as the original with all the human puppets, but he is a far better ventriloquist. (okay, imho)
This is amazing
This is not really faithful to the original... also Billy's part at the end on: "the" was so all over the map and was not even held that long I am confused about this video. If you can explain what happened I would be interested.
How did no one clapped during Billy's long note?????? Too bad I wasn't there
oh my GOD that note wHAT that was like tWENTY SECONDS ON ONE NOTE HOLD DAMN
국내보다 잘하네요
역시 국내랑은 차원이 다르죠
@@user-wk9vq4oo3x 완전까지는 아니고 왠지 오리지널 느낌! 정품느낌!
당연한 거 아닌가요..? 거의 모든 뮤지컬이 오리지널이 더 잘하죠. 특히 외국은..
why you should shave before a show (you're on Broadway for heaven's sake) met Brett Barrett once MANY MNAY years ago during the tour of Grand Hotel really nice guy.
This is the number you’ll hear after Biden is shunted out at the convention… in stead of “the both reached for the gun” it’ll be “it’s the man not the party”. Lol, mark my words
最後細川たかしみたいになってる
When I hear the audio it sounds like Lin Manuel Miranda was the one singing/talking
Robbie Hagberg I think you should be there at 10 minutes or so if you want to do it tomorrow or not yet but I don't think I will be able to get it tomorrow so I can go to the store if you want to do it tomorrow or not yet but if you want to 1920and 1958
My favorite version is with Daniel Boaventura and Adriana Garambone😍
Dear God, Brent Barrett has got a voice that could strip paint! 😖