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  • @hikeilokei
    @hikeilokei  ปีที่แล้ว +816

    Around 15 minutse in the camera quality takes a dip. I'm sorry but I have 0 clue why that happened. The video was recorded like that. There was nothing I could do about it :(.

    • @pucamisc
      @pucamisc ปีที่แล้ว +7

      We need a Thomas the tank engine review

    • @shellnet411
      @shellnet411 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Try watching the next to the first one I watched was the third movie once you've seen the whole series it makes even more sense and you talk about the whole eugenics thing at all and that kind of is but it's supposed to be the start of fixing that that was his idea and having them over

    • @catminecraftyas
      @catminecraftyas ปีที่แล้ว

      its okayyy :D

    • @Ijustusethistocommentstuff
      @Ijustusethistocommentstuff ปีที่แล้ว

      This entire movie, and every DCOM racism allegory, just sound like this clip from SAO abridged: th-cam.com/video/8bxDyZi21hY/w-d-xo.html
      The most shallow, yet hilarious, attempt to seem cool and accepting.

    • @supersmashseandx1991
      @supersmashseandx1991 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ive watched this twice and I still don't see it

  • @Tzedakah263
    @Tzedakah263 ปีที่แล้ว +3743

    They mixed up Jafar and Aladdin, seeing as how Jay is a thief. If Jay was supposed to be Jafar's son, I feel like he'd use hypnotism and mind tricks to get what he wants, not petty theft.

    • @hikeilokei
      @hikeilokei  ปีที่แล้ว +1024

      That’s actually a really good point

    • @zombiepiss961
      @zombiepiss961 ปีที่แล้ว +748

      true, also correct me if i’m wrong but Aladdin wasn’t a cleptomaniac, he stole out of necessity while Jay just seems to steal for funzies

    • @Musicdancelife2003
      @Musicdancelife2003 ปีที่แล้ว +437

      The movie Aladdin actually hints at that Jafar used to be a thief. And his hypnotism only works with his staff. So if Jay were to inherent this power it would only work with his staff.(Sorry if I wrote something wrong, English is not my first language)

    • @AleksandarBell
      @AleksandarBell ปีที่แล้ว +298

      I think it makes sense that Jafar doesn’t steal himself, but Jay does. Jafar uses his kid to get what he wants because he’d rather have a kid do what he wants instead of the kid being a mini him.

    • @leeh4669
      @leeh4669 ปีที่แล้ว +159

      But in the movie, Jafar uses Aladdin to steal stuff from the cave, and then he trains his son to be used the same way.

  • @sandycheeks5eva
    @sandycheeks5eva ปีที่แล้ว +3779

    In regards to the colorblind casing, I think Disney cast the kids first and then realized it wouldn't make sense for their parents to be white.

    • @hikeilokei
      @hikeilokei  ปีที่แล้ว +1153

      That would make sense. Though it’s funny to me in Cameron Boyce’s case cause his mom is actually white IRL his dad is the black one 😭. So it feels like they just wanted us to know he was black lmao. Sarah Jeffery’s (Audrey’s) mom also isn’t black irl either.
      Once again not really a problem. But it’s kinda funny to me that they gave the mixed POCs, POC parents even if their IRL counterparts aren’t POCs. (Sarah Jeffery’s mother is Indigenous but not black)

    • @sandycheeks5eva
      @sandycheeks5eva ปีที่แล้ว +423

      @@hikeilokei There's definitely an element of meeting a POC quota, but considering they cast actual famous people for the parents instead of random adults I like to think they care about representation. But it's just for optics lol. I know that the director, Kenny Ortega, cares about representation and has complained about Disney's lack of effort in the past.

    • @turnipcrazy
      @turnipcrazy ปีที่แล้ว +169

      Something interesting is that for the new sequel they casted the people who played Cinderella and Prince Charming in the 90's musical version, which was color blind casted. So that would mean Cinderella is black, Prince Charming is Asian, Chad is white and I believe their daughter is Black. I just think it's interesting how the whole franchise is hopefully cast color blind.

    • @sandycheeks5eva
      @sandycheeks5eva ปีที่แล้ว +57

      @@turnipcrazy Oh yeah I saw that! Another point towards actually caring about representation!

    • @rileyswrld9690
      @rileyswrld9690 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      that's cool but...they're
      making another movie? 😳

  • @SpagettiSpeltWrong
    @SpagettiSpeltWrong ปีที่แล้ว +1683

    Jay has to be the most bisexual character on earth.

    • @hikeilokei
      @hikeilokei  ปีที่แล้ว +345

      I’d like to believe he is
      But this movie gave no real indication of that 😭
      Praying for a sign that I have a chance in the sequels 🙏

    • @jacksonhead1370
      @jacksonhead1370 ปีที่แล้ว +254

      @@hikeilokei Just wait till you meet Harry in the second movie.

    • @MykeThaOrphan0209
      @MykeThaOrphan0209 ปีที่แล้ว +112

      @@jacksonhead1370 Manz was just straight up flirting 24/7 FOR NO REASON!

    • @gokairedwillcipher
      @gokairedwillcipher ปีที่แล้ว +62

      Yes. Bro would have happily kissed Ben. And also Harry. And Mal

    • @SpagettiSpeltWrong
      @SpagettiSpeltWrong ปีที่แล้ว +54

      ​@@jacksonhead1370
      Spoiler for Descendants 3
      Harry straight up flirted with Jay in the movie like- DAWG- Jay and Harry are bisexual it's ridiculous

  • @demitwice
    @demitwice ปีที่แล้ว +3008

    i have a lot of nostalgia for the descendants movies but i do not forgive them for being the reason ever after high ended! we were robbed!!!

    • @DisneyRocks4evah
      @DisneyRocks4evah ปีที่แล้ว +477

      PLEASE ever after high was like this but a thousand times better we deserved an ending!!

    • @notoriouslysky
      @notoriouslysky ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@DisneyRocks4evah no it doesn't

    • @one-onessadhalf3393
      @one-onessadhalf3393 ปีที่แล้ว +239

      Ever After High is so much better than this series, I will never not be disappointed that this got more popularity

    • @freshbread4039
      @freshbread4039 ปีที่แล้ว +167

      I read a review of eah that says something along the lines of “EAH is the poor man’s Monster High, and a rich man’s Descendants”

    • @Myeverythinggg
      @Myeverythinggg ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@DisneyRocks4evah nah

  • @spookaay999
    @spookaay999 ปีที่แล้ว +1351

    The whole Ben, Mal, Audrey thing is why I honestly couldn't disagree with her being the villian in the 3rd one, like she's in the right honestly😭

    • @hikeilokei
      @hikeilokei  ปีที่แล้ว +386

      Bruh fr. She was pushy, but she was wronged in this movie.

    • @creed8712
      @creed8712 ปีที่แล้ว

      Imagine getting cucked by a girl who tried to Cosby your man

    •  ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Let's be honest, Audrey was superior compared to Mal

    • @kittykittybangbang9367
      @kittykittybangbang9367 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      ​@ I remember someone once saying that descendants spins the trope of the main chick being the protagonist and the side chick being the antagonist, because this time the side chick is the protagonist and it's the main chick that's the antagonist.

    •  ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@kittykittybangbang9367 honestly that makes so much sense! Especially regarding the fact that Mal keeps spelling aka cheating on Ben while Audrey tries to get him back by being herself

  • @beluwuart
    @beluwuart ปีที่แล้ว +409

    In Spanish, the Bertha joke is that her first name is Mal and the second is Igna, which would be Mal-igna, that means malignant

  • @theultimateshipperf.l.1186
    @theultimateshipperf.l.1186 ปีที่แล้ว +2495

    To me what ticked me off is how Mal puts a love potion on cookies and gives it to Ben. And he finds that cute. That is the equivalent of a guy drugging a girl's drink at a bar. It wouldn't bother me as much if Mal actually got punished for it as in (She looses Ben's trust) and if she didn't end up with him as well. Like seriously, the guy literary finds out she gave him food with chemicals that will make him fall in love with her against his WILL and his reaction is "Dawww it's okay you were just shy". It pisses me off that Mal does something incredibly wrong and gets away with it. And it pisses me off how he is such a simp for her, like for what? You just met her!

    • @gold_lavender3523
      @gold_lavender3523 ปีที่แล้ว +266

      bruh MAYBE she did something wrong bc shes a villian kid like they showed in the beginning of the movie. ofc that doesnt mean her actions are okay bc its really not. And Ben seems to want to give the villian kids a chance so ig he decided to forgive her??? idk hes weird LMAOOO but ig he wanted to play along with her plan but, actually fell in love with her in the end bc the spell actually wore off (i love descendants)

    • @Alexander59059
      @Alexander59059 ปีที่แล้ว +153

      @@gold_lavender3523
      Reading that gave me a migraine

    • @gold_lavender3523
      @gold_lavender3523 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@Alexander59059 i hate using punctuation bc it would make me seem like im serious asf 💀💀💀

    • @normalhuman9878
      @normalhuman9878 ปีที่แล้ว +103

      @@Alexander59059
      I think I can translate
      Mal was raised as a villain so Ben reasoned that she didn’t know drugging people was wrong

    • @hikeilokei
      @hikeilokei  ปีที่แล้ว +462

      Seriously bro just said “it was just an oopsie 🥺” and went along with his life 😭

  • @jamie8703
    @jamie8703 ปีที่แล้ว +1355

    Dove Cameron's music is low-key her selling point I've never been impressed by her acting but her voice is honestly amazing

    • @hikeilokei
      @hikeilokei  ปีที่แล้ว +177

      Exactly how I feel.

    • @UchihaKat
      @UchihaKat ปีที่แล้ว +135

      I only knew her from this so I was PLEASANLTY surprised when I stumbled across "Boyfriend" and got smacked in the face with the fact that she's a super openly queer queen who can put out a BOP.

    • @briannawhite9307
      @briannawhite9307 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      Sofia Carson (Evie) too. She has such a charisma when she sings!

    • @jamie8703
      @jamie8703 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      @@briannawhite9307 honestly Disney actors just gotta commit to their music instead of trying to be a triple threat

    • @jamie8703
      @jamie8703 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@UchihaKat girl same I always thought she seemed kinda fake and now we know why lol

  • @TerminallyMercurial
    @TerminallyMercurial ปีที่แล้ว +899

    Okay but the books make the isle like 110 percent worse, and thier parents, like Carlos was actually abused with bear traps, and they basically only got food from the garbage trucks they dumped at the isle, goign to uradon or however its spelled was like the first time they had has fresh fruit in ages. Its wild. I love the movies, mainly for the nostalgia, but some parts are good.

    • @chronocontract8835
      @chronocontract8835 ปีที่แล้ว +167

      The third movie actually references the lack of food! When Gil is walking around he finds berries and it's the first time he's ever had them

    • @AleksandarBell
      @AleksandarBell ปีที่แล้ว +58

      The books were actually fire I loved them as a kid

    • @Simplyvibing465
      @Simplyvibing465 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      I remember the books now!! Definitely liked them more than the movies as a kid. I’m a sucker for world-building and info dumping and I always have been lol

    • @She_Sordid
      @She_Sordid ปีที่แล้ว +54

      Not to mention the books go over the fact that Carlos is younger. It's stated that he skipped a couple years so he's younger than his classmates

    • @ashikjaman1940
      @ashikjaman1940 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wait, bear traps? Like, they got put in bear traps?

  • @michealjameson7579
    @michealjameson7579 ปีที่แล้ว +763

    Cameron Boyce was also my first male celebrity crush. We have so much in common. We should kiss

  • @Wince_Media
    @Wince_Media ปีที่แล้ว +581

    The way Jafar is portrayed here shows that twisted is canon

    • @beaniepanini
      @beaniepanini ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Oh my god yesssss

    • @waffleauflauf4213
      @waffleauflauf4213 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      YES

    • @emofurryboyfriendasmr
      @emofurryboyfriendasmr ปีที่แล้ว +14

      OMG YES

    • @misshollis7547
      @misshollis7547 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      But that also means Aladdin was an asshole :(

    • @ElizabethMorgan-qe7vu
      @ElizabethMorgan-qe7vu 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@misshollis7547 he lied to jasmine to get laid, and he almost put genie back in slavery. He was never great.

  • @waterboycam1782
    @waterboycam1782 ปีที่แล้ว +487

    “did i mention” is insanely good and TRULY one of the main reasons why this movie remains so iconic.

    • @godabandonedthistimeline
      @godabandonedthistimeline ปีที่แล้ว +19

      That song has no right being so catchy. This song has been stuck in my head for years

    • @jortsofficial173
      @jortsofficial173 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      i spent actual hours learning that dance and it was worth every moment

  • @dancingsun2
    @dancingsun2 ปีที่แล้ว +252

    11:52 To clarify, canonically Carlos is one grade below the rest of the core four. So Carlos and Jane in this are sophomores and Mal, Evie, Jay, and Ben are juniors

  • @capansonyaiii
    @capansonyaiii ปีที่แล้ว +319

    I still dont get why Maleficent is considered the evilest and scariest villain of all in Descendants. There were worse Disney villains with more power.

    • @brynniefresh9746
      @brynniefresh9746 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      I mean Jafar became a genie and had like so much power at one point

    • @parkchimmin7913
      @parkchimmin7913 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@brynniefresh9746 Even though he became a super powerful genie, he was held back from actually doing anything (unless someone wished to free him).

    • @brynniefresh9746
      @brynniefresh9746 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@parkchimmin7913 but he was able to get to a pretty important position close to the sultan (spelling?) so i feel like he could’ve just kept doing sketchy shit after no longer being a genie…it’s just a strange place for him to end up like compared to the other villains ya know

    • @parkchimmin7913
      @parkchimmin7913 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@brynniefresh9746 Hmmm true. But if he stayed as the sultan’s advisor, his job would’ve been compromised when Jasmine and Aladdin discover his schemes. The original sultan was, to be quite frank, dumb and disconnected from watch actually happens in Agraba. Since Aladdin was poor and knows what Agraba is like first hand, I’m sure him and Jasmine would actually take things into their hands and try to make positive changes. The first thing they would’ve done was probably fire Jafar.

    • @brynniefresh9746
      @brynniefresh9746 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@parkchimmin7913 I’m just saying he could’ve weaseled his way into the good graces of some other sultan and remained powerful I have no doubt aladdin and Jasmine would’ve kicked jafar out even if he hadnt exposed himself as being evil…like jafar would’ve served no purpose

  • @chickenwinna
    @chickenwinna ปีที่แล้ว +851

    Why does the evil queen have kids, isn't her whole thing that she's an abusive stepmother? Who is Evies father...

    • @rileyjay7283
      @rileyjay7283 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      One of the movies does reveal the dad actually

    • @chickenwinna
      @chickenwinna ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@rileyjay7283 please tell me 🥺

    • @artsbew
      @artsbew ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@chickenwinna Gaston, I thiiiiink?

    • @noitsrin
      @noitsrin ปีที่แล้ว +21

      ​@Chicken Winna Her father is Hades and it was said in desendants 3

    • @frogmossy4201
      @frogmossy4201 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@chickenwinna hades

  • @AshMillr
    @AshMillr ปีที่แล้ว +303

    fun fact: I'm currently in a production of desendents at my local theatre, and I can confirm that be our guest does in fact suck on paper.

    • @mirandajewell23
      @mirandajewell23 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I’m doing it too! Be Our Guest is the hardest song in the libretto! It drives me crazy! 😭 (And it’s a summer camp so we have 6 weeks for casting, rehearing, and performing.)

    • @mirandajewell23
      @mirandajewell23 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Our opening night is now one day away!!

  • @agroteraaaa
    @agroteraaaa ปีที่แล้ว +426

    there's actually a lot of interesting speculation about descendants and ever after high, which have similar premises and came out around the same time. i will die on the hill of ever after high being better, though.

    • @Frickerdoodle
      @Frickerdoodle ปีที่แล้ว +81

      It ain't a hard hill to climb at least. Ever After High was amazing, 10 times better in the delivery of it's message, and it it was still first!

    • @ohnowork6846
      @ohnowork6846 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@Frickerdoodle i could write sonnets poems and essay about how excellent eah's writing was, i loved it

    • @siyaamissack8788
      @siyaamissack8788 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Honestly, same

  • @Skrill99
    @Skrill99 ปีที่แล้ว +230

    Like a few other commenter I read the books and they were able to explore the theme of child abuse a little better as they didn't have to comply with the family rating Disney treatment.
    Some examples:
    -Mal's mother does hold Mal to an unreasonable expectation of her evilness in fact Mal doesn't have her full name Maleficent because she isn't evil enough.
    "When I was your age I was already conquering kingdoms and killing thousands. You're only doing grafitti and scaring other kids? Pathetic."
    "Mom, there are no kingdoms to conquer we are stuck on this island. I am doing the best I can with the resources provided to me."
    "Still. You can do better."
    -In the first book Mal was like the kid no one messed with and was pretty evil feared by many. Jay was her number two and was there to back her up. They did actually go to a school in the books.
    -On the subject of Jay. I haven't seen the movies in a while but in the books Jafar is characterized as not the best father, but he is at least the second best of the four. Jay is in charge of stealing for the shop to sell and his father is mean when he isn't able to get good loot for the shop to sell (not physically abusive but I think he gives him like the silent treatment. The stories are written in third person limited and Jay interprets his father as only caring if he gets what his father wants and not actually caring for Jay)
    -on another note it is hilarious that Jay qualifies for the criteria of kleptomania
    -Evie for most of her life was isolated with only her mother as company as: Maleficent banished her and her mother to a castle where they live because Evie didn't invite Mal to her 5th or 6th birthday (she was the only not invited) and both Mal and Maleficent took that personally (turns out it was Grimhilde and her desire to spite Maleficent) and I would argue that Grimhilde cares most for her daughter but it might just be her living through her daughter vicariously.
    -Grimhilde has given Evie many body image issues as Evie is never pretty enough. But she did teach her daughter many "important" things like applying makeup how to chose outfits that look flattering etc.
    -Carlos Mom is definitely the worst of the bunch. Carlos is for lack of a better word his Mother's slave. He fluffs the coats cleans the house does the laundry drives his mother around etc. She also is I believe the only one to physically abuse their child (not hit at least not cannonically) she keeps Carlos in her closet where there are bear traps which he did caught in at least once and it is established that he doesn't even have a pillow (Evie giving him a pillow is the start of their friendship)
    -Carlos in the group was the timid nervous one and he is terrified of his mother. He has had a panic attack (or two I don't remember) when concerning his mom as the house wasn't up to clean standards and other characters have remarked how bad his mother is.
    -In the book a big thing/ his moment was realizing/coming to terms with his mother actually loves her coats more than him
    -also Carlos is a whizz at school he is smart so he is put ahead a grade or two so he is cannonically one or two years younger than everyone else
    -he actually made a device which temporarily put a hole in the barrier (also liv and Maddie is cannon in that universe)
    -Also Mal and Jay intimidated Carlos into having a party at his place with the intent of tricking Evie and making a fool of her. Which makes me think he has been bullied by them before they became friends.
    My opinion on the second and third movie:
    -it has been a while since I have seen the movies but not since I have listened to the music and in my opinion the first is the worst when it comes to the music (I love it but I love the second and third more) but perhaps that's just my taste as you apparently don't like rotten to the core that much (one of my favorites of the first movie)
    -Also yes Jay and Carlos being sidelined has made me sad too. I don’t think the second and third movie are much better about that Either.
    -Also the second and third movies are a tad gay and some of my favourite characters appear then (some pirates per se)
    -Fun Fact: Mal and Evie have more duets with each other than Ben does with Mal (and technically Evie has with Doug) (it's one song) it is also quite the gay song
    I think that's about all my thoughts on the Disney descendants that I can think of. This has quite the monstrosity of a comment which has taken me at least half an hour to write.

    • @michipeachy69
      @michipeachy69 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      IM SORRY LIV AND MADDY IS WHAT??

    • @Skrill99
      @Skrill99 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      @@michipeachy69 I know! Here is the quote
      "...then it switched to a pair of twins who were nothing alike (one was boyish and athletic and the other was sort of a diva, and they both sort of looked like Mal, except with yellow hair)..."
      -Isle of the lost, Melissa de la Cruz, pg 93/94

    • @widderx
      @widderx ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@Skrill99the line right after that says “then it switched again to two teenage boys who seemed to be running a hospital for superheroes.” so the series Mighty Med is also canon in the descendants universe

    • @Ijustusethistocommentstuff
      @Ijustusethistocommentstuff ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@widderx This series of crossovers is like how you can interpret that the Avengers Assemble series Avengers, Ultimate tv show Spiderman, and potentially Phineas and Ferb, at the end of their series, are dead by the end of Lab Rats.

    • @misshollis7547
      @misshollis7547 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The books might not be canon. The stuff from the books are never mentioned in the movies.

  • @barbiesimz7815
    @barbiesimz7815 ปีที่แล้ว +111

    In the books, carlos & evie were the good kids and mal & jay were the bad ones lol
    and in the books, carlos had to sleep in his mother’s closet with bear traps and etc and basically his mom abused him and it’s why he’s scared of dogs

  • @DisneyRocks4evah
    @DisneyRocks4evah ปีที่แล้ว +206

    mal and uma should have been endgame
    also pleaseee cover descendants 2, im not even a big fan of this franchise but uma is a banger of a character

    • @hikeilokei
      @hikeilokei  ปีที่แล้ว +42

      I'm gonna do it next month!

    • @AleksandarBell
      @AleksandarBell ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Honestly I’m a big Mal x Evie fan

    • @zillynfox
      @zillynfox ปีที่แล้ว +9

      REAL they had such good chemistry with eachother i was rewatching it and I did not expect to like them together so much lmao

  • @garryhoiland9230
    @garryhoiland9230 ปีที่แล้ว +376

    I find it kind of ironic that this movie does multiple race swaps, but doesn't include Tiana from The Princess and the Frog at all. If you are going for diversity, use the one Disney Princess of color.

    • @PJguy
      @PJguy ปีที่แล้ว +52

      I agree! It would have been nice for them to include Pocahontas, Jasmine, Tiana, Mulan in this one or the sequels! Moana was out by the sequels too, so they could have included her. That would have been nice but instead they stuck with the white ones and race-swapped

    • @linlin908-re3op
      @linlin908-re3op ปีที่แล้ว +65

      ​@@PJguy Mulan's daughter is actually added in the future installments, you can even see her in the 1st movie! And i agree, i wish they added Tiana's child.

    • @brynniefresh9746
      @brynniefresh9746 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I mean there’s a lot of characters that aren’t in the movie…the story is based off of a book (probably a shitty one) but these are the characters in that story, so if tiana wasn’t in the book they wouldn’t add in other irrelevant characters when there’s already a bunch of characters

    • @llamaniaman4002
      @llamaniaman4002 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Actually, I my be remembering wrong, but isn't Tiana's daughter in the movie? She's just a background character. It may have just been 11 year old me making baseless assumptions cause Jane had a black friend tho lmao

    • @brynniefresh9746
      @brynniefresh9746 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@llamaniaman4002 not that I remember but I don’t know the movies that well lmao

  • @user-qn3gd4yy4f
    @user-qn3gd4yy4f ปีที่แล้ว +126

    I think the race swapping would be less noticicable if it was as common in the Aurodon cast as the Isle cast. Maybe it's because we're mostly focused on the villian kids, but even in the later movies the splicing in of poc is almost always in the cast thats supposed to be "evil". Its something I noticed even as a kid. Aside from Audrey, its pretty much only the Isle kids? And even then, Audrey becomes a villian later in the series. I also think Uma deserved better in the series in general. Never quite understood why Mal gets good and forgiven but Uma wasn't written to have a redemption. Maybe the writers were shooting for a new message but the dichotomy is odd to me.

    • @Thathestiadevotee
      @Thathestiadevotee 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Looking back on it now, it’s so weird. The only POC in the OG cast (first movie) were Jay, Audrey, and Lonnie. In the little series they did (Wicked World) there was a VK that was black (I don’t remember her name but she was one of Shadow Man’s daughters) and she was voiced by China Anne McLain (who also plays Uma) and then in the second movie there was Uma and then Celia in the third movie.

    • @Little_Eris
      @Little_Eris 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Thathestiadevotee I also wanna add that Carlos is also POC (Cameron Boyce is mixed race on the lighter side)

  • @springgayspringthey
    @springgayspringthey ปีที่แล้ว +682

    the "this is why we can't take black people anywhere" and all of carlos' black card jokes sent me into orbit
    also i'm going to argue with you on carlosnot being abused, literally in the scene that he's with his mom she says she'll miss him cause he won't be around to clean her furs and clean her feet. and in the scene right before the dragon he hestiates before putting his fist in because he's afraid of his mom. i do 100% agree that it's really weak in the movie, if you care enough to read the first isle of the lost book it's talked about much more there, but they do drop the ball movie wise

    • @hikeilokei
      @hikeilokei  ปีที่แล้ว +219

      Oh that’s so true! I completely forgot about that line of dialogue! That being said, I still wish they did more “show don’t tell” cause I feel it could’ve been more reinforced. But you’re definitely right about what you said!

    • @PurgatoryProductions1
      @PurgatoryProductions1 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@hikeilokeihe is also abused in the books, i don’t remember the details but yeah he was definitely not doing too great on the isles.

    • @springgayspringthey
      @springgayspringthey ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@PurgatoryProductions1 his mom made him sleep in the closet with her fur coats... that were protected with bear traps on the floor. i also believe evie was the first person to give him a pillow among other things

  • @natsinnett9751
    @natsinnett9751 ปีที่แล้ว +194

    I adore the chaotic bisexual energy you constantly exude

    • @hikeilokei
      @hikeilokei  ปีที่แล้ว +66

      Dude the second movie had me barking at everyone on screen 😭

    • @JC_Cali
      @JC_Cali ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It's refreshing honestly 💜💙

    • @valerierae76
      @valerierae76 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@hikeilokeiamen honestly

  • @a1m3v
    @a1m3v ปีที่แล้ว +134

    i feel like the books flesh out how bad the parents are. tho tbh i only read the book once lol

    • @hikeilokei
      @hikeilokei  ปีที่แล้ว +44

      There are BOOKS???

    • @a1m3v
      @a1m3v ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@hikeilokei lol yup. and as always the books are better because they go in more depth abt things rip
      i wasnt rlly interested in descendants initiallu but my mom bought me the book because she was like “hey this is like Ever After High!” which i mean, ok similar concepts in the “characters are children of fairy tale characters with puns of their parents names,” but im biased EAH is forever the better series in my eyes

  • @a1m3v
    @a1m3v ปีที่แล้ว +103

    18:00 oh idk if the movie touched upon it but Mal and Ben had a psychic connection in the books and Ben would dream abt her a lot, which is why he wanted to allow the kids on the evil island to go to school in the main land

    • @a1m3v
      @a1m3v ปีที่แล้ว +24

      so maybe Mall was like “yes we have a psychic connection i will tell u everything my last name is Bertha”

    • @alexwilliams2276
      @alexwilliams2276 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I wish the books stayed separate. I hate to read a book and be told watch the movie to find out the rest. I know she eventually got a partnership but it ruined the whole this is different from Ever After High

    • @a1m3v
      @a1m3v ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@alexwilliams2276 yeah w/ ever after high the webseries has the same plot as the first book initially then deviated from it to be more episodic while books had a different plot, which worked well i think. Descendants shouldve done something similar instead

    • @kitcat8308
      @kitcat8308 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wasn't the Ben character shown looking at the Isle with Binoculars at some point before bringing the Isle kids over?

  • @ShalathePrinny
    @ShalathePrinny ปีที่แล้ว +50

    The idea of having all of the Disney villains on one island is such a weird idea because 1. I feel like having so many strong personalities under one magic dome would lead to many disputes for what little amount of territory they're given, and 2. It feels like someone really should've asked, "So is this like a penal colony or a concentration camp?". It's a bit extreme, I know, but someone should've asked it.

  • @dracomalfoy4679
    @dracomalfoy4679 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    The movie does a poor job of actually showing the villains-kids abuse. In the book, Carlos of basically a slave to Cruella. He had to sleep in her coat-closet and in the room where that’s located, there is bear-traps outside of the closet covering the floor. That’s why he is good at parkour because he had to be in order to not get caught in the traps to get to his “bedroom”. He is actually quite nice. Mal manipulated Carlos into having a party at his house, and then invited Evie. But that was so she could lock Evie inside Cruellas coat-closet. Carlos saved Evie from that and I think she gave him a pillow ( he didn’t have one before) for that. Mal was kind of a huge bully. But she did that because she wasn’t invited to Evie’s birthday-party. Carlos is my favorite actually because he is so sweet. Evie is also quite nice! But Jay and Mal teamed up and bullied people basically.

  • @leo-hz8zb
    @leo-hz8zb ปีที่แล้ว +90

    thomas the tank engine and the magic railroad was a STAPLE of my child hood. that movie was incredible to me. rocked my world man

    • @hikeilokei
      @hikeilokei  ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Yeah!
      As a kid who loves the train sets, that movie was fucking CINEMA to me growing up

    • @dumbnoodleman
      @dumbnoodleman ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It is a legit trip watching it now though

  • @aaetriv
    @aaetriv ปีที่แล้ว +207

    i really hope you also do the other two movies, descendants 2 is one of my favorite self-indulgent movies to watch xD (even if it does have some really annoying mixing issues on disney+ during some of the songs)

    • @hikeilokei
      @hikeilokei  ปีที่แล้ว +81

      I plan to do Descendants 2 on May 26th and Descendants 3 on June 30th! (the last Friday for the next 2 months :)

    • @aaetriv
      @aaetriv ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@hikeilokei glad to hear! hope you have fun with them :D

    • @ManmyDearestCreation
      @ManmyDearestCreation ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I feel like that’s the only Disney sequel that I liked better than the original.

    • @aaetriv
      @aaetriv ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@ManmyDearestCreation fr! it's the rare occurrence of "movie 2 in a trilogy is better because the other two were only made bc some exec decided it", d2 actually felt like everyone involved had fun making it

    • @ManmyDearestCreation
      @ManmyDearestCreation ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@aaetriv yeah yeah. And the songs were better

  • @Adriana-dv7nl
    @Adriana-dv7nl ปีที่แล้ว +21

    “They will no longer have to go to school in the ghettoₒₒₒ 🤨” HAS ME ROLLING IDK WHY

  • @clausewitzianwar
    @clausewitzianwar ปีที่แล้ว +46

    You might be the first person I've ever heard of actually liking this version of Be Our Guest.

    • @hikeilokei
      @hikeilokei  ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I don’t think it’s STELLAR or anything (contrary to how I acted lol)z But I think it’s an interesting rendition. And I think that it’s creative enough to give credit for

    • @clausewitzianwar
      @clausewitzianwar ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@hikeilokei Interesting, to me it seemed like a shallow and poorly executed attempt to capitalize on the success of Pitch Perfect, and the "rap" was pretty cringey

    • @ttiger86
      @ttiger86 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      My husband enjoys that rendition so much! It shocked me when I showed him the movie how much he liked it.

  • @normalhuman9878
    @normalhuman9878 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    I still use Ben’s song to Mal to remember how to spell ridiculous

    • @hikeilokei
      @hikeilokei  ปีที่แล้ว +20

      That’s mega based

  • @MostlyAnimatedSketches
    @MostlyAnimatedSketches ปีที่แล้ว +179

    This movie was definitely made to capitalize on the success of Ever After High lol. I mean, "next generation" fanfic and fanart is such a common thing for kids to make, so it makes sense why these were so popular. I remember when this movie came out, I wanted a crossover between EAH and Descendants to happen so badly. And yes, the plot of EAH is better lol.
    I remember being kind of annoyed by the setup of Descendants 2, like that's when Ben started being annoying to me. There's also the fact that that movie introduced a talking dog, which everybody hates lol. Overall though, I think the second movie has the best soundtrack of all 3 movies. And I'd say that the third one has the weakest soundtrack of all 3. The third one is the messiest in its plot and the ending just didn't feel like it was thought out at all. I won't spoil it, but I think it causes way too many problems. I do like that the third movie is very much connected to the events of the previous films, though, and tries to wrap up any issues. I didn't read the novels, so I'm not sure if the third movie's writing contradicts that canon or not.

    • @Skrill99
      @Skrill99 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well, the novels are written in a way so that they take place in the same universe. There are 4 and in my opinion, the first and third were good the second... was also good. The fourth though was weird (though it did have one of my favourite scenes) Though I would say all of them have a better plots then the movies but no music

    • @dumbnoodleman
      @dumbnoodleman ปีที่แล้ว

      uhhh scooby?

  • @music_YT2023
    @music_YT2023 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    Third time's the charm on the upload! I also think it's fine that they race-swapped a ton of Disney characters; the original movies were mainly adapted from European tales, but were written by white writers, animated by white cartoonists, and intended for white audiences. However, these stories resonated with so many people across the globe. I think switching up cartoons to reflect the actual diversity of the audience is the right move - but only so long as it's not racist depictions, like Aristocats' Siamese cats, and the main moral of the story is intact.

    • @tototats16
      @tototats16 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m Asian and I’m really confused on how the Siamese cats are racist. Is it because of the name or how they talked? Cause I’ve seen the movie many times growing up and even now as an adult. I also watched the behind the scenes and really liked the song and their characters.

    • @AleksandarBell
      @AleksandarBell ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@tototats16 How they talked, the ways their eyes were animated it was just bad.

    • @ronaldreaganhater6982
      @ronaldreaganhater6982 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Also this is a pretty obvious different universe than the main movies so having the characters look different makes sense to me as well.

    • @ellice9978
      @ellice9978 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tototats16there are a lot of racist chinese stereotypes like the heavily slanted eyes, buck teeth and accent

  • @neivilde.1242
    @neivilde.1242 ปีที่แล้ว +217

    - I have a very deep and complicated relationship with these movies lmao, i own them all on dvd though
    - I was one of the people that watched it on repeat on dvr lmao
    - Every time a new project with Cameron came out after he passed, it hit me all over again. And even more so in hubie Halloween, which he was supposed to be in, but died 2 weeks before it started filming, and literally ALL his friends are in it like watching that movie just hurt me
    - Kristin Chenowith is my favourite part of this movie for real
    - Booboo Stewart has a regular name?????
    - Cameron being a minor is so funny, because sometimes you can see the body double on night shoots and stuff when he couldn’t be on set lmao
    - My favourite game to play when ben is in a musical number is “is he dancing or just bending his knees a lot”
    - THERE IS A THOMAS THE TANK ENGINE LIVE ACTION MOVIE???
    - About the diversity, I think it was to match the actors. Like Cameron and the actress playing Audrey are both half black so they have a black parents. In the second one they cast an asian actress to play Lady Tremaine’s granddaughter so when they cast Lady Tremaine in the third one, it was an asian woman. But they kinda changed the canon now, because in the fourth movie that will come out eventually, chad’s parents are the characters from the 1997 roger and Hammerstein Cinderella, and that movie famously has colour blind casting, so they’re applying that logic to them being chad’s parents (they’re black and asian) and i am obsessed, but also how did these adorable people raise chad lmao he is horrible
    - Please the constant blurring of the wand i can’t
    - This is the most carlos and jay development we get by the way, they are quite literally props for the rest of the franchise. This is the mal show, featuring evie, occasionally guest starring jay and carlos. Like every movie they’ll get a scene at the start with a problem they face, the whole movie happens, and at the end they solve their problem from the start. They really made this for the girls, and it saddens me, because the potential they have is so great.
    - Also not to be that person, but the first book fleshes out their backstories more, and it’s really weird because it’s a scenario where book one is canon to movie one, but then the rest of the books are not canon to the franchise unless specified. We get a clearer image on their abuse and trauma in the book though
    - Things to look for in the other movies: everyone has gay vibes, every single person in that movie franchise, no one is straight. Also I need you to keep in mind the politics in this world because they are insane.
    - Uhm, anyway, if anyone wants to watch a video of random descendants 1 details i love, have fun th-cam.com/video/ihQvrfRv8bI/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=kali

    • @normalhuman9878
      @normalhuman9878 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      The books were way better than they had any right to be

    • @dancingsun2
      @dancingsun2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I love the books for digging deeper into the character's backstories and personality. Its the only place Carlos and Jay get a relevant storyline lmao.
      It does suck though that the first book says that Mal's dad is a regular human, but then the third movie makes Hades her dad. Not even the final book that leads into D3 says anything about Hades being Mal's dad, and we know that book is canon because the fight scene between Mal and Uma was turned into a whole Short Film with a duet song.

    • @neivilde.1242
      @neivilde.1242 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@dancingsun2 yeah i know it annoys me, but I'll just pretend that maleficent lied to her and she found out about hades eventually lmao.
      and also i feel like half my love for carlos comes from the books lmao, like he's so babygirl in them

    • @zaspo_sapin7620
      @zaspo_sapin7620 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wha're the books names?

    • @neivilde.1242
      @neivilde.1242 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@zaspo_sapin7620 i mean there is 4 they have different names lmao but the first one is the isle of the lost and it’s my personal favourite

  • @plushdragonteddy
    @plushdragonteddy ปีที่แล้ว +25

    28:48 love that disney is trying to keep it basically G rated by not having them kiss, yet all the not-quite-kissing moments are always WAY MORE SEXUALLY CHARGED THAN A CHASTE KISS ON THE LIPS WOULD HAVE BEEN. like, LOOK at her!!! she is GASPING FOR BREATH !!! frankly whoever directed that scene needs to go to horny jail (but also not because i absolutely lived for those scenes as a kid lmao)

  • @PokemonEnjoyer1
    @PokemonEnjoyer1 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    descendants also was disneys reaction to the ever after high show and doll line - even though they were using more generic fairy tale characters and not Disneys characters, they basically made them stop and stole the idea

    • @alexwilliams2276
      @alexwilliams2276 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Not necessarily. It’s based on a novel called Isle of the Lost.

  • @level700giga8
    @level700giga8 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    These movies have always kinda been my go too comfort movies since they came out. Their fun and cute if u don’t think about em too hard.

    • @hikeilokei
      @hikeilokei  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Agreed. They’re silly and I like that

  • @pupkak3596
    @pupkak3596 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I feel like I was the only person who didn't read easy being into Doug. I genuinely just thought that their whole relationship was to show that she can just be friends with a guy and still be smart and successful by herself. Genuinely the kiss scene in the third movie shook me

  • @ElizabethMidfordHatesCops
    @ElizabethMidfordHatesCops ปีที่แล้ว +1208

    I will never understand why they act like the Isle of the Lost was this multi-generational issue. It was twenty years. Like, Adam was the one who made the decision to send a bunch of people onto an island, then his son resolves that. I understand twenty years is a long time, but I feel like the movie would have stuck with me more if the Descendants were further down the generational line and not just the kids of villains. Imagine is Mal was Maleficient's fifth-great-granddaughter who has a mean streak and looks up to her ancestor's monumental story and desperately wants to be able to turn into her own giant evil dragon. And then her parents are completely normal and living a horrid life for no good reason. Not only do I think this would make the story more intriguing, but also it would make more sense with how all the stories take place in different time periods. The daughter of Mulan shouldn't be the same age as the son of Cruella.
    I _think_ the only other thing that bothers me is the Evil Like Me song. It was explicitly stated that there is no magic on the Isle of the Lost. That whole sequence should be impossible! Back in 2015, I rationalized to myself that it was just Mal daydreaming. But then later on Maleficient references that song!!!!! How do they forget that key rule? In the third movie, the "no magic" rule is walked back on and it's only evil magic that doesn't work on the Isle. However, Maleficient only ever used evil magic. And on top of that, good magic working on the Isle defeats the entire purpose of the movies!!!! If good magic works, someone trapped on the Isle could escape if they were well intentioned. But the whole point was that people were unfairly trapped there????? Those small remarks cheapened the resolution at the end of the third movie.

    • @zuberirogers895
      @zuberirogers895 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It’s a kids movie

    • @ElizabethMidfordHatesCops
      @ElizabethMidfordHatesCops ปีที่แล้ว +100

      @@zuberirogers895 And??????? Ever After High was a kids series.

    • @MetallicMagenta
      @MetallicMagenta ปีที่แล้ว +67

      @@ElizabethMidfordHatesCops I think maleficient was probably singing that song everytime back at the island and that’s why she referenced it at the end of the movie and mal was probably just daydreaming singing it with her at the museum

    • @ElizabethMidfordHatesCops
      @ElizabethMidfordHatesCops ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@MetallicMagenta Could be.

    • @IRuleEverything101
      @IRuleEverything101 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I mean, is Maleficent still not human in this universe? She was a fairy in the original sleeping beauty, and in all the remakes, so if she's still not human here, she wouldn't have human magic. If there's a barrier to cut off most magic, especially evil magic like you said, fairy magic isn't considered good or evil so it could probably still be used there. 🤷🏽‍♀️

  • @gaymiens
    @gaymiens ปีที่แล้ว +17

    between the splatoon music and the thomas the tank engine & the magic railroad reference you’ve successfully managed to integrate both mine & my little sister’s special interests into a video about a movie neither of us have ever seen before

    • @gaymiens
      @gaymiens ปีที่แล้ว +5

      she made me watch that damn movie 1026392992x times over through our entire childhood i can probably recite it from heart by now

    • @hikeilokei
      @hikeilokei  ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I will single handledly close the generational divide

  • @chaoskat9498
    @chaoskat9498 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Me (a half asian) an my fully chinese friend (shes adopted) are both completely obsessed with Mulan bc thats what little bits of media we had connecting us to our culture and we absolutely HATED lonnies look😂 as a costume designer it looked so bad and remotely nothing like any kind of modern fantasy chinese clothing and just had that Disney 'mismash and layer clothing till it looks cool' thing going on, so its suprising to hear you thought she was good looking, to each their own but i feel like for a lot of characters disneys costume design did them dirty😭😭

  • @magicalgirllaurie
    @magicalgirllaurie ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Idk much about this movie ngl, but doesn't Belle and Adam segregating all the evil people to their own island go completely against the entire message and point of Beauty and the Beast?

  • @TangentialTif
    @TangentialTif ปีที่แล้ว +41

    First, totally agree the songs in Descendants are much better than Zombies. Which is good for me because my kids were obsessed with these songs for a while.
    Second, the whole first scene on the Isle of the Lost, I just kept thinking, who are all of these other people? Is every single person a villain or is this where they also send petty criminals? If it’s all criminals, why even bother to run so many small businesses? Wouldn’t their inventory just constantly be stolen? I guess not because they seem surprised when the kids do it. Is it an honor among thieves thing? Where do they get supplies? Are they still able to take out small business loans? Are the bankers fellow villains or is someone in Auradon exploiting the underclass?
    Like I said, I’ve seen this movie a lot of times, though never all the way through in one go, so I’ve had lots of time to think about it.

  • @gabrielleduplessis7388
    @gabrielleduplessis7388 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    I have a soft spot for this series. But sticking with this movie:
    I love the bond between Evie and her mom and Jay and his dad. You can see through the few scenes they have together the love they have for each other.
    I love the songs. Kristen Chennoworth slayed in this role. She just had fun with it.
    The friendship between the main cast.
    I respected the fairy godmother at least trying to do something nice for the kids. No other teacher did. It was a nice gesture.
    I did not mind the white savior trope in this because Ben was in a place of power and was at least trying to use it for good. And as a king or prince, should he be fixing the system Aurodon made?
    Doug and Evie should had more screen time throughout the series. Don’t at me.
    Don’t have bad things to say about the first, but will have more critiques on the other two.

  • @elizabeththompson8511
    @elizabeththompson8511 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    the main characters were better than me because if i showed up to this rich ass school knowing that they had the money to fund my underdeveloped neighborhood and school but DIDN'T i would have absolutely gone through with the evil plan idc

  • @nickjames8377
    @nickjames8377 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Something that I've heard from people who read the books that the Descendants is based on said that Carlos is alot more interesting in the books. His mom is actually the most abusive (at least physically) and he is supposed to be 2 years younger than the rest of his group but he's also the smartest, young as far to find a way to scientifically turn off the magic barrier. Granted it only lasted a couple of seconds but he's actually the only person on the Isle of the Lost to come close to escape because of it. They show little bits of his tech side in the movies but not enough to where you really get to understand his character.

  • @SheepasaurusRex
    @SheepasaurusRex ปีที่แล้ว +41

    i would love to hear your take on uma's morals and her character drive in descendants 2
    *edit:* i would have to disagree with evidence of carlos being abused or neglected, because being that afraid of dogs is not a natural thing. that poor boy had that fear drilled into him somehow. and the whole little brother act seems kind of like a cry for guidance imo

    • @AshleyG24601fan
      @AshleyG24601fan ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Omg, Uma is a queen. China Anne McClain is such an amazing performer.

    • @thelunarwizard
      @thelunarwizard ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The first book we get to see through some of Carlos' POV. His mother SUCKS. I haven't read it in years, but I remember wanting to punch her in the face every single time she was mentioned.

    • @BabyGirlTiny
      @BabyGirlTiny ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Being afraid of dogs is a natural thing lmdao. No dog has ever did anything to me and k was never abused and I’m afraid of dogs. That’s like saying every single fear is based on something traumatic. That’s not how it works.

    • @etoileshine1011
      @etoileshine1011 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@thelunarwizardCarlos is an abuse victim it's canon in the movies and the books. He was forced to sleep on the floor and clean her furs which were surrounded by bear traps. Carlos LITERALLY said in the movie that his mom told him that dogs are wild animals and instilled fear into him. I'm not sure if you intended on it but you seem to not know much about Carlos considering his abuse is very in your face.

  • @pinkyapple333
    @pinkyapple333 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I remember live blogging this movie when it came out and I read it being more about classism rather than eugenics

  • @lolli_popples
    @lolli_popples ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Jafar in this movie gives off “Jafar from Starkid’s Twisted” far more than he gives “Jafar from Aladdin”

  • @i_stay_lurking
    @i_stay_lurking ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I’ve said it once and I’ll say it again, I look forward to your videos as much as I do Kurtis Connor and Jarvis Johnson. You have such a pleasant cadence when you speak, and I love listening to your commentaries.

    • @i_stay_lurking
      @i_stay_lurking ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Oml I just realized that the squishmallows have a child 🥹

    • @hikeilokei
      @hikeilokei  ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Aw that's so sweet. I love Jarvis Johnson. I actually started doing these shortly after I started watching him, so I think I took some inspiration!

  • @luveelayna
    @luveelayna ปีที่แล้ว +23

    idk if you've watched descendants 3, but if you haven't, that's when we find out who mal's dad is! it was kinda shocking ngl 😭😭

    • @hikeilokei
      @hikeilokei  ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I got it spoiled on the wiki. But I’m excited to figure out how they mentioned it lmao

  • @wildheartrazorfang6
    @wildheartrazorfang6 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Descendants was also partially made because Mattel was making a sister series to the show Monster High called Ever After High. Apparently there were supposed to be some negotiations between Disney and Mattel to work together on one project that never went through, resulting in the two being split. Ever After High first came out in May 2013 and was effectively slaughtered by the instant popularity and extended trademarks of Descendants, so there was definitely something there from Disney's end. I do like both series, but I miss Ever After High lol

  • @justinmontana3710
    @justinmontana3710 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    I have very weird thoughts on this franchise, as I'm one of the people who actually read the book that inspired this whole franchise. Honestly, it wasn't that bad. Of note:
    - they actually swear in the books (only crap, but they say it like 3 times)
    - the Disney Channel exists in universe
    - Mal gets a magic dragon tattoo at the end of it that Disney unsurprisingly didn't give her in the movies

  • @masterseal0418
    @masterseal0418 ปีที่แล้ว +202

    The late Cameron Boyce and China Anne McClain deserve to work with better material than just this half-assed attempt to leech off Ever After High's success(then killing it so). I also find it questionable for Kirsten Chenoweth to play Maleficent than Idina Menzel or Susan Sarandon. She'd totally kill it as Rita Repulsa in a Power Rangers reboot tho. Anyways, Descendants felt like it's ushering in that message of villain kids from the ghetto being the same just like the heroes' offspring, also butchering beloved characters from the Disney movies we grew up with. And I thought Beast sought redemption because of his love for Belle after spending years alone with a monstrous appearance casted to him by the sorceress for acting like a total jerk. In human form, Beast(or Adam I guess) was just as bad as his beast alter ego in Belle's Magical World but not to the extent where it's character assassination. If I want to enjoy a franchise surrounding Disney Villain lookalikes, then it's best sticking to Twisted Wonderland. Hopefully the Disney+ anime adaption would be awesome once the series finishes production and comes out.

    • @worldsbestgravy1324
      @worldsbestgravy1324 ปีที่แล้ว +72

      Bro the way you worded this made me think China Anne McClain was dead 💀

    • @masterseal0418
      @masterseal0418 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@worldsbestgravy1324 She ain't.

    • @Code_Ax0
      @Code_Ax0 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@worldsbestgravy1324 same I was like WAIT _WHAT_

    • @hai2a
      @hai2a ปีที่แล้ว +20

      I agree, and also highly recommend Twisted Wonderland for people that felt this series was messing with the original characterization! I enjoy most of all it takes place thousands of years after the original disney stories, so the way the characters talk positively about the villains makes sense since that’s how they went down in history and how their deeds were, well… twisted. It makes a lot more sense to me than how descendants did it.

    • @hikeilokei
      @hikeilokei  ปีที่แล้ว +42

      I can whole heartedly tell you the reason Menzel doesn’t play Maelfiecent js because she cost too much 😭

  • @DSIrocker
    @DSIrocker ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The “blind” diversity is similar to Rogers and Hammersteins 97 Cinderella casting. Which is WHY it is now canonical to the Descendants movies confirmed by the upcoming spin off!

  • @aruvius
    @aruvius ปีที่แล้ว +31

    if you think this movie's soundtrack sound good, you're gonna explode when you here the second movie's soundtrack

  • @gokairedwillcipher
    @gokairedwillcipher ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I stand by my theory that Jay is actually Jasmine and Aladins son. He just was being petty and stole him and brought him to the isles with him

  • @cambuck2231
    @cambuck2231 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The extent of Carlos's abuse was very prominent in the first book

  • @constructivecriticism6203
    @constructivecriticism6203 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Since Mal’s father is Hades, does that make her a demi god?

  • @LaikasFriend
    @LaikasFriend ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love that The Beasts crown looks like literal plastic, that's so funny

  • @dancingheart6224
    @dancingheart6224 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for bringing up that part where Ben's dad says it's your fault to him cause I was like woah Disney way to bring the real world trauma found in seemingly perfect families! It was a shocker that I feel like no one was ready to hear from an Auradon parent 😂

  • @sleepysmartboy6287
    @sleepysmartboy6287 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As a child I loved these movies but I remember being so annoued that it took a 16 year old to think maybe putting a bunch of kids on an island to be raised by criminals and people who did so many shitty things was a bad idea. Like Carlos was abused and forced to sleep in a bear trap closet and Cinderella's abuser has other kids now how did nobody check in on this?

  • @Long_May_They_Raine
    @Long_May_They_Raine ปีที่แล้ว +2

    God, the Mal and Maleficent duet REALLY does slap, I forgot how much I loved that song. And also Kirsten Chenoweth. Stan her fr!

  • @lindensalter6713
    @lindensalter6713 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I read the first book and I’m almost certain they mentioned that Carlos is younger just pretty smart and skipped grades or something but I’m not 100% sure. That might be why he is casted so young because he is supposed to be younger

  • @sophiekinch-lake
    @sophiekinch-lake ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wasn't expecting the Thomas and the Magic Railroad reference, but you're right about the bridge looking exactly like the railroad.

  • @Blackninja-en5vm
    @Blackninja-en5vm ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I actually auditioned for descendants, they did have race swapping in line. The last 20 or so reading for Carlos were mainly black or mixed.

  • @ProtagonistIvy
    @ProtagonistIvy ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The music in descendants, particularly the first and second, is SO good I can forgive almost all of the plot. Almost.

  • @lnolen101
    @lnolen101 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Descendants came out while Once Upon a Time was still running. Which has the exact fairytale characters in it.

  • @tdf_worldkey6666
    @tdf_worldkey6666 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    holy shit i didnt even realize she sais "my hood" in the beginning it puts the icing on the black to white storyline. thing is its not this movie specifically I actually think its the second and third one with china as uma that really set it off for me. i dunno if I did it in my original comment explain it. but yeah it'll be interesting to watch you unpack the other two maybe in one video because they kionda meld together to me.

  • @revuhhh
    @revuhhh ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The dragon at the end…. She has that ability in the OG Sleeping beauty story too btw!

  • @camillacoelhonettoziliotto
    @camillacoelhonettoziliotto ปีที่แล้ว +3

    also, there are books that explain everthing, from the way the island work, to the reason they became friends, and actual scenes shpwing how terrible the parents are

  • @bowssanderos
    @bowssanderos ปีที่แล้ว +29

    If you don’t mind, I think you’d LOVE doing the second movie. The songs go a LOT harder (aside from this weird verse Ben gets in the penultimate number), there is actually a buildup to the final battle scene, and I feel like there’s a lot to say about how the antagonist of the second movie (Uma, played by China Anne McClain) essentially does the same thing to Ben that Mal does in this and yet receives an incredibly different reception from Auradon’s public. I also can’t speak in major detail on this, given that I’m white, but other creators have discussed how this film sort of plays into the angry black girl trope with Uma’s character and I’d really like to hear your thoughts on that.
    I’d also love to hear your thoughts on the character of Harry Hook, played by Thomas Doherty, because…I’m a lesbian yet he ended up being a HUGE childhood crush of mine.

    • @hikeilokei
      @hikeilokei  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I’m gonna do the second movie next month!

  • @dancingsun2
    @dancingsun2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Descendants is so special to me, I enjoyed it so much when it came out and I was a part of the fandom on both instagram and twitter so it's safe to say this franchise and everything that came with it was a huge part of my life for 4 years. Because of this, and the emotional weight these movies hold now because of Cam's passing, it's been incredibly hard for me to watch any videos that talked about Descendants or look at any post about Descendants (when it's coming from someone I don't already know is a fan of the movies). This is the first video I got the courage to watch and you made me laugh so much, so thank you :)

  • @appiezya3909
    @appiezya3909 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Did I mention is legit still on my workout playlist to this day cause it’s such and banger. Also I need a seven minute version of their be our guest using the stage musical lyrics/instrumentation as a starting point.

    • @hikeilokei
      @hikeilokei  ปีที่แล้ว

      Getting ripped while listening to "Did I Mention" is such a chad level flex

  • @dancingsun2
    @dancingsun2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    5:28 I hate that I still laugh at people saying "among us" 😭😭

  • @Defectum138
    @Defectum138 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Love HiKeiLoKei content!

  • @SamanthaLaurier
    @SamanthaLaurier ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Oh I notice you called out specifically the internet company that failed to actually provide internet to my entire apartment complex. It's been nearly two weeks. The library closes before I can finish this video, I'll have to wait until *MONDAY* to watch the last ten minutes

    • @hikeilokei
      @hikeilokei  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I used to have spectrum. Worst experience of my life. My parents went against our neighborhood’s HOA and installed a DTV satellite dish cause spectrum was garbage. In both customer service and internet connection

    • @SamanthaLaurier
      @SamanthaLaurier ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hikeilokei I've got Spectrum fiber and they're trying to upgrade the lines. So far they've knocked out a water main twice and have managed to reconnect every apartment in my building except mine.

  • @royalty.evanie
    @royalty.evanie ปีที่แล้ว +12

    the reason why they casted sleeping beauty to be black is because the girl who play Audrey is biracial. same for Carlos’s mother

    • @starlight9517
      @starlight9517 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      They only casted a black actress for Audrey's grandmother, but they didn't do the same for her parents, as both appeared to have been white in the scene when Audrey and Mal curtsied each other near the end of the movie.

    • @ttiger86
      @ttiger86 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@starlight9517 Yeah I noticed that when watching the movie and thought it was weird. Aurora’s mother is black and her daughter is obviously at least mixed but here’s Aurora all white. What?!

    • @BabyGirlTiny
      @BabyGirlTiny ปีที่แล้ว

      Nah, they did it because in ever after high briar wasn’t white

    • @royalty.evanie
      @royalty.evanie ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BabyGirlTiny ever after high isn’t Disney so I don’t think that matters

  • @viperleviathan9021
    @viperleviathan9021 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Man I remember this movie being a lot better than it was lmao. Another fantastic vid, I really enjoy your commentary, it feels different than a lot of other commentary TH-camrs and I love it

  • @AleksandarBell
    @AleksandarBell ปีที่แล้ว +5

    One of my first male celebrity crushes was also Cameron Boyce, I liked his freckles and his dancing in Jessie and for like 8 year old me (I’m 18 now I have no idea how time works I might be really wrong about the correct age idk) that was the perfect man

  • @mikufan3939-g6l
    @mikufan3939-g6l ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "i respect descendants as a movie but i'm still excited to rip into this movie satirically for the next 25 to 30 minutes" also me when i watched the movie a while back lol i just went on a mini rant in my mind. Watching the movie when it was a new big thing as a kid to now when you have a life to deal with and better media literacy is really surreal

  • @gewmmi
    @gewmmi ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I recently saw a high school productions of this and I thought they were saying Oregon the entire time 😭

  • @zontiky
    @zontiky ปีที่แล้ว +5

    i used to be obsessed with these movies. somewhere deep in the corners of ao3 you can probably find an orphan account where 12-year-old me wrote evie/mal fanfictikn

  • @a1m3v
    @a1m3v ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Mal shouldve dyed Lonnie’s hair blur and shaved the side of her head or smth like making it long and brown is so boring. youd think the daughter of Mulan would know what cool is 😪

  • @Acoustickitten1
    @Acoustickitten1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm not gonna lie, I saw a TikTok of this video and ran here to watch it 😌 Also I remember Dove Cameron saying that She, Cameron, Booboo, and Sofia would all read Descendants fanfiction together 😭

  • @someone-you-do-not-know8522
    @someone-you-do-not-know8522 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I’ve never heard about that Thomas the Tank engine movie, now I must know more!
    As for Descendants 2 and 3, while the plots get worse, I personally think the music gets better, so look forward to that.

  • @na6731
    @na6731 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I have not seen that train movie but you could make a 20 hour video describing paint dry and I'd watch all of it

    • @hikeilokei
      @hikeilokei  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That is the sweetest thing anyone has said to me. Stay tuned for the HiKeiLoKei paint drying special!

    • @na6731
      @na6731 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hikeilokei yesssss I'm so excited

  • @neivilde.1242
    @neivilde.1242 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    third time's the charm hopefully

  • @invisibledoodlewizard
    @invisibledoodlewizard ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ok heard “Thomas and the Magic Railroad” and had to leave a like. Thanks for the memories of when I was a high child/watched a very distraught Tomska and realized I wasn’t actually high and others could see this beautiful monstrosity.

  • @Code_Ax0
    @Code_Ax0 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    13:18-25 Dawg. Please! 😭 The nonchalant narration of the most out of pocket stuff never fails to make me absolutely lose it.

    • @hikeilokei
      @hikeilokei  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Seriously bro just casually breaking the 4th wall 😭

    • @Code_Ax0
      @Code_Ax0 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hikeilokei low-key reminded me of my sister because this is exactly what would happen if she saw a dog.
      I love dogs and I'm a little bit evil, funniest shit in the world to me. 😂

  • @MamaWheelz
    @MamaWheelz ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I weirdly appreciated the blind casting and I wish I could see this more. The use of true blind casting helps diversify show casts in both racial and disabled representation.

  • @ian-michaeljones8825
    @ian-michaeljones8825 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As someone who lives in Memphis, this place is a nightmare you can’t wake up from.

  • @angrytheclown801
    @angrytheclown801 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You can't convince me that's Jafar. That's the salesman from the beginning, and since Robin voiced him and the Genie, maybe there was very good reasons to put him in the lamp to begin with.

  • @purpledragon1945
    @purpledragon1945 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    1. yes i agree about your points regarding Jay and Jafar, they genuinely seemed to like eachother unlike all the other parents and kids.
    2. yes i have seen thomas and the magic railroad, it was a guilty pleasure of my chilldhood, even if its aged poorly. diesel 10 lives rent free in my head.

  • @ItsStrawberryMads
    @ItsStrawberryMads ปีที่แล้ว +8

    6:28 Mal Bertha isn't actually correct, her middle name is Bertha, but ehr last name is unknown so they identified her name incorrectly on the wiki page.

    • @hikeilokei
      @hikeilokei  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Oh, I’m aware I mention it later in the video that it’s just weird that she has a middle name, but no real last name. Like they clearly wrote the “my middle name is Bertha” as a throwaway line.

    • @ItsStrawberryMads
      @ItsStrawberryMads ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@hikeilokei Exactly! it's just odd that she's got middle name, but her mom has a single one?? it's an odd cinematic universe 💀

  • @Itsgay2read
    @Itsgay2read ปีที่แล้ว +84

    I was a year older than Cameron was, and yet somehow I looked up to this kid! The day I found out about his passing, I broke down. May his memory be a blessing.

  • @msgameandcake628
    @msgameandcake628 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So, generally minor thing, but I'm not entirely sure what the complaint is about Super Specific Spells in the museum invasion scene? You mention a spell that puts a guard to sleep, and a spell that unlocks/opens a door. Those spells seem pretty basic, on the whole! The sleep one in particular MUST exist in some form considering the likes of both Snow White and Sleeping Beauty involve the princess getting magically put to sleep.
    I guess maybe its not "a sleep spell" and "an unlocking spell" but more like, "put a night guard asleep spell?" Or maybe its related to how they found the spells in the book? I've never watched the movie, so I have no idea what the full context is, but the way you've described the events has left me unsure as to what the core issue is.