How long Battle Born lithium batteries last in an RV
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ก.ย. 2024
- This is my real world usage of the Battle Born brand lithium batteries that are a drop in replacement for deep cycle batteries in boats and RV's for example.
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GREAT VIDEO/INFO! THANKS FOR TAKING THE TIME TO PRODUCE/SHARE THIS INFO!
Thanks for this! This was extremely helpful!
Thanks for the info. So, if I install the 1x 100ah LIPO battery (same brand) I'll be good for 2 days without rechanging it. That's awesome.
My idea of an installation is: 4 x100w flexible solar panels, 1 battle Born 100ah bat. with a mppt 30ah charge controller with a 2000w (4000w peak) inverter. We're a couple, so it should be perfect. Total installation costs: $2.4K. Cheers,
Sounds good. 👍🏼
Wow ! That was a quick reply ! :-) Thank you again for the video, and please post more ! Cheers,
Roger.
Each battery is set by the BMS at 100 amps, you will need two BB batteries to get full use of your 2000 watt inverter. With only one BB battery you would would be limited to 1000 watts for an inverter.
Great info! Thank you!
Thinking of changing over myself. Good info. Thanks
No regrets here.
Great informatiom, thanks for taking the time to post your video.
You may install solar panels for both traveling and daytime camping. The BMS will totally protected your battery from over charging. Plus BMS will recognize your close to 14.0 volt then it will safely throttled down with slow charging plus it also balanced out your several 3.2 volt cells. Then BMS will cut-off from your charger at around 14.4 volts. If you see after battery settle down after charging; you'll should see 13.4 volt.
Not to nitpick, but when it comes to technical matters, it is necessary....
Just to be clear: amperes ("amps") is a measure of current *flow,* while ampere-HOURS is the correct term for the measure of charge (that is, the aggregate of a flow of current _over a period of time)._
So 169 amps would be a rate of current flow (i.e., 169 coulombs per second), while 84.5 amps of current flowing for two hours, for example, would be 169 amp-hours of charge.
Multiplied by the voltage -- say 12 volts (for simplicity) -- that would equate to 2,028 watt-hours of energy (or 2.028 kilowatt-hours).
Yep...so many people do not understand amps and amp-hours.
Thank you for the info. it was very informative. This is just my personal taste, but may I suggest you try to put a little more animation in your talks, it get's a little tough listening to for an elongated period. I used to do presentations and after I gave them a couple of times, I would be more animated b/c I new the info and how I wanted to present it quickly and understandably (you are totally understandable). I think more folks would subscribe, but I could be wrong. Thank you again the info. is great.
*_Rock on man!_*
Thanks so much for posting this.
Sounds like it is raining or the fish tank needs water because I can hear the water.
To help your channel, views, likes and subs... If you are to just edit out all the silence in between words it would be a world of a difference.
Thanks for sharing your experience with these batteries ✊
3:15 . For all the whiners, start here and learn something. Yw
Great video
5000 cycles @ 80% discharge ( straight from Battle Born )
Mate I’m running microwave aircon for 2 hours , fans tv charging water pump lights off 280 ah , battery full about 2pm with 160 watts solar
how nice of you .
You should learn to edit out pauses. Watch Will Prowse to see how nice that is.
I would like to put a couple of these in my rv
They are great! Thanks for watching.
Dude speak up & get to the point...I've already learned all that while you jabbered on...
If you want them to last you will never let them fall below 20% capacity, and do not charge them more than 80% capacity. Lithium batteries last 4 to 10 times longer if you do this. Not that you can't push them beyond that, it just makes them last longer. The same for phone batteries...anything lithium pretty much with exceptions.
Interesting results but I'm really suspect of your fridge consumption.
get a battery monitor with a shunt,and stop guessing about charge and discharge profiles
I'm on my bed I'm getting tired just hearing his voice.
Very expensive solution for your planned usage. But if it makes you feel good, it’s cheaper in the long run than drugs. Lol. Just kidding
Good video but those batteries are super expensive. Still can't run an AC or microwave. But batteries are impressive
definitely expensive. Thanks for watching.
RAFE Alexa I have a neighbor that has three of them he runs his air conditioner and his microwave without any problem
I'm going to make a 40 amp hour 12-volt lithium battery out of 18 650 s to put in my car can y'all reference me to a good voltage regulator with digital readout that way I can control the amount of amperage going in and keep track of how the batteries are doing
That is well outside of my knowledge. I’ve watched a few videos of people doing what you are talking about though. It’s neat stuff. Sorry I can’t be of more help.
No disrespect but when doing a test guessing is not a test. You still need to do a real test using accurate watts and accurate time.
I understand, thanks for the comment!
thx for video. did you ever get a time for empty back to full?
I never have fully timed a back to full. I gotta do that sometime. Thanks for watching!
How many did you install please? Did you see "Less Junk Less Journey" recent install of those same batteries? We have currently used AGM batteries but they too heavy for me.
I installed two, and I would like to add a third eventually.
Are they really a drop in replacement? Lithium batteries have a different charge profile than old lead acid batteries. I would think older converter/chargers would not be compatible.
These have a built in monitoring system which means they will take a charge from anything giving a charge and cut off the charge if it is over/under the minimum and max required specs. Battle Born is very responsive to emails and questions so check with them they may work just fine or they may have recommendations to use the older charges effectively.
Thanks for watching!
That sounds right, not sure a stock charger would be a great idea, possibly a very bad idea
Yeah, "drop-in replacement" is misleading. They meant- replacement in size only :). Charging profile is of course different, and stock chargers are not quite sophisticated. Built-in battery management system (BMS) is mostly to protect from over-heating or over-discharging, it doesn't regulate charging current and won't stop at 85-90% to extend the battery life.
Will Lockwood simple answer yes I dropped him right in I didn't even have to change my settings I was using let acid L 16s
Al M speak what you know man I have these batteries they drop straight in I use a Morning Star control charges of 14 6 2 and has a full charge floats at 13:6 and it works great
Now that you're winterizing, do you have plans to do anything with your batteries? Would you consider the ability to drain these batteries further without damaging the battery one of the aspects that make them worth the extra cost? And do you know what the life expectancy is of one of these batteries is?
Trailer Tramping Adventures that is the subject of my next video on Sunday! It will be short and easy, because the winterizing process for these is simple. So for that you will have to wait until Sunday. These batteries cannot be damaged by draining them. They have built in management system that will shut them down before they are ruined by discharge. These I’m not completely certain are worth the cost vs AGM or Gel the science says the $ per amp used over lifetime lithium exceeds the others but their not taking into account human error such as dropping them, more susceptible to theft, etc. so in that regard they could potentially be not worth the extra cost. But if everything goes right they will be cheaper per amp over time.
NDNomad I've got 6 twelve volt AGM batteries for a total of 750ah. That adds 450 pounds to the trailer. But that only gives me 375ah useable and I'm not sure that's going to meet my needs long term. We will see. Look forward to your next video.
To improve lifespan of Li batts, they should not be discharged below 20% or charged above 90%. He's already shortened their life by draining them down to (200-170)/200=15%. Draining them further down to 10% would result in TWICE shorter cycle life than if you drain them only to 20%. Storing them for several months at less than 20% charge would be a bad idea too. Ideally they should be stored at 40-50%.
You don't need to be on TH-cam by the way of your talk you can put people to sleep 🛌
Let us know where you bought them
I got these through a link a blog. gotsolarinstalled.blogspot.com/p/lithium-batteries-for-solar-systems.html I would look around a bit, These could be had for $799 at one time, not sure if that is possible anywhere else. Thanks!
This video is pretty much a waste of time...all guessing and conjecture...no hard data at all....not sure what you're trying to convey but you might want to write yourself a script so you don't have to think so much..."about" is a totally useless data point...
The flat personality is excruciating but good information 🙄.
THIS IS A HOSTAGE VIDEO
Basically, you say "basically" a lot. It's annoying.
Seems like a waste of time
900.00bucks a pop , how is that saving anyone money , i cant afford that . thats a lot of money for a battery .
yup it sure is. Very hard to justify for most people. Thanks for watching and for the comment!
There is no money savings, only weight savings. Sometimes - generator gasoline savings because you can last a few days longer without running a genny. Though, installing 500--700W solar is more cost-efficient than this.
I am going to explain this to you guys and hopefully you understand this. Lithium is the way to go for 3 reasons. Number 1, they last up to 20 years, flooded lead last 7 MAX. Number 2 you can get 80% of the 100amps from a lithium battery. With a lead acid you only get 50%. Number 3, another major difference is when you are draining power in a lead acid lights start to go dim and other appliances slow down. With a lithium you get 100% until the entire 80% of the 100 amps is used up. Do you understand now why lithium kicks lead acid's ass? It's like a VCR, they were over $1000 new and then dropped down to $100 after others got into the market and so will Lithium batteries.
20 years is a theory, a wishful thinking. Li batteries are new on the market, there are no records further than 10 years. There is often 3%-4% suggested annual loss of capacity in specs, so in 12-13 years 50% capacity is lost - this is when battery needs to be replaced. Every cycle takes something away too. In $ per cycle, Li is still more expensive than AGM and much more expensive than wet cells.
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