This really adds to my theory on Durin.. That Durin wasn't always a skeletal rotting dragon of venom. I believe the original Albedo (Subject 2) poisoned him from within his stomach, either with alchemy or because of his impurities that Gold oh so detested, slowly poisoning Durin's body and mind, to a point he goes completely aggro though not by his own will (Which shown through the Dragontooth spear description details). It's unclear if after Durin's immediate death does Subject 2 escape his belly or if he was unable to for years after the incident due to being in a deep slumber or the belly still being too intact for him to break free from. Maybe the first Albedo quest hints towards the time of his escape when Albedo finds the Festering Desire, aka. Subject 2's sword created using alchemy and Durin's blood. Meaning he's been out and about on Dragonspine for a long while if the sword has been out in other people's hands, or maybe it was stolen when he wasn't looking and didn't care enough to get it back. For someone so eager to replace Albedo, this imposter is actually quite patient. He knows when the time is right and isn't one to make mistakes lightly, which is why he created the Whopperflower to stir trouble and bring light to his possible existence. He's testing the waters while also gathering data on the "wrench in his plans" (the Traveler). The last chapter of the recent event shows the confidence he has in himself, boldly acting slightly out of character, twisting previously mentioned metaphors and references, even sending an indirect threat in killing the Traveler alone on the ice cold mountain. It wasn't a mistake when his mark disappeared then reappeared, he planned it, to confuse the "gardener" and gather more data on the Traveler and what weaknesses or perceptive skills they may have. He sowed a seed of doubt and confusion within their minds, so the next time he makes an appearance, the Traveler wouldn't be so confident in foiling his perfect future.
Oohh, "Durin wasn't always a skeletal rotting dragon of venom." Interesting! I have a Durin and Dragonspine video in the very early stages of work, due to a ton of material found while researching Albedo. In the event I go through with creating the video, would you be okay with me using parts of your first paragraph as reference? I would use an image of your comment, possibly with only the relevant parts to Durin, with your username fully on display, and I would also address the ideas as coming from you in the narration. I've done similarly on past videos, such as the Shrine of Depths one (it's near the end of the video), if you want an example of how it looks. The imposter using the "gardener" example is such a big thing. It's like...how does he know about it? Was he just listening in on the conversation? Does he use it because he, too, is the same as Albedo and thus would think similarly? Did they merge and it's used because the memory of the conversation is present? Or...did he just use it by total chance and it's all a coincidence, haha. Regardless, using it and the mark shenanigans as a way to sow doubt is a BIG possibility. You've got good ideas, pal!
@@Moosashi Oh for sure you can use my comment as reference! It was a thought i had as i was playing the event. It just made sense after thinking about how Albesus was disposed of by Gold. Why make Durin eat him? And why would Durin be so loving and joyous in his mind while looking so evil and doing evil things? His design doesn't look like something Gold would create even by accident. I suspect Albesus managed to watch the whole conversation, just as he was watching Albedo from the third cutscene. I don't think they merged, but from how Albedo worded the fake's appearance.. "He shaped himself in my image" something along those lines, might suggest the imposter wasn't even made exactly like Albedo in terms of looks. So that may be evidence in the fake just being that flexible in changing his form. It was 100% intentional. The whole interaction was like an inside joke but with sinister undertones, everything he said and did was like he wasn't trying to hide, but wasn't trying to out himself either. The real Albedo wouldn't warn us or give us info in such a confusing convoluted way as he was doing, especially while contradicting everything he said back on the mountain. "Being a gardener isn't so bad" contradicts his ponderings on "what right do we have to be creators?" I'm super impressed how the Traveler's confusion led to everyone else to doubt themselves too, he's *that* scary!
I was one of the unlucky players that started too late to experience this amazing quest. I only hear how awesome it was. Albedo is simply one of the best characters in the games in terms of many things. He has interesting personality, he is involved with so much lore and he is just a chad.
Agreed. There's a lot of good lore in the game, but his story, and everything related to it, really stands out from the rest. It's just so very intriguing.
This lore is complex enough to bring you back in game bounds to explain it to us. Now, the part about Albedo and Susbedo working together does makes more sense. Since, neither will Albedo lose from Susbedo because of plot armor and that he's my favorite character (also he's smarter and knows all Susbedo's plans). Nor will Albedo kill Susbedo, since he sympathizes with Susbedo, as shown in ending cut scene of part 2. And, knowing Albedo, he will choose the option where he gets to learn more (about Gold, Gold's creations). The only reason he likes to be in Dragonspine is Durin and the fact that anything about it may bring him closer to finding Gold, I'd guess. And now he has got a living, breathing Subject, he won't waste that. So, from what I can make out of the story, what Albedo might have chosen is to let Susbedo play social part of Albedo, in exchange of letting Albedo do research on him. In this way, both will be happy. (Sorry for bad english. And, I love your videos.)
Another commentor posted in the community section a similar theory to yours, that Albedo and the Imposter come to an agreement. All of which happens off screen, between acts two and three of the quest. Definitely possible. The ending is very open to interpretation. Personally, I still believe the two have merged into one being. In alchemy, the stage of albedo removes impurities, and it is implied the Imposter bears many traits of human negativity (impurities), all of which the real Albedo lacks. In the fourth stage of alchemy, the Rubedo, reunification between these separated entities happens, creating the "perfected form," so to speak.
i feel bad for albedo no.1... mann imagine being born with feelings instantly and get feed to a monster, by your creator no less. no wonder he is filled with thoughts like perfection and stuff
I would like to note that the game has a bit of a different order for alchemy, as Albedo's ascension voice-overs list them in the order of Nigredo, Albedo, Rubedo, and finally Citrinitas. So, if your speculation is true and the Albedo we see is a combination of him and the other Albedo, then it would imply that there's actually one more step in Albedo's journey: the awakening, or the solar dawn. And, according to his in game voice-over, Albedo defines Citrinitas as when "the meaning of the object being transmuted has finally been brought to light, becoming gold and revealing its true value." So, if Albedo truly does have another stage, then it might be when he finally reveals his true nature or "awakens", which could be the destruction of Mondstadt (or attempted destruction) that he foretold in his first story quest.
Yeah, it's interesting that they reversed the last two steps. Perhaps they changed the order to give more of a spin on their Art of Khemia idea and make it fit better with the story they want to tell. Or it could end up just being stealth patched sometime in the future. I'd be curious to know if his voice-overs in other languages also refer to Citrinitas as the last step. I'd be more than okay with it turning out as you have it written here. The foreshadowing that Albedo may end up doing something terrible against Mondstadt in the future is rooted with him dropping that line, and also with Rosaria's suspicions. The fight cutscene against the human-form Whopperflower was intense, and kinda has me wanting an actual boss battle against Albedo.
What a really put together video, dude! I'm excited to see more lore stuff from you. One thing to note though is that Albedo claims in his voicelines that Citrinitas is the final stage of alchemy. Idk if this is a mistake on Albedo's part or this is just how alchemy works in Genshin. He also likens gold to Citrinitas instead of Rubedo (which is puts into context the alias Rhinedottir ends up donning).
Thanks! And yes, that is true about the voicelines. I was originally going to add an "Extras" part at the end, and that bit was included there, as well as Albedo syncing up quite well with the ideas presented in the Four Temperaments. The "Melancholic" descriptor used for him near the beginning was going to tie into that bit, since Melancholic is one of the Four Temperaments and it fits him to a T, even down to his element.
Very important detail I feel I need to bring up; in Teyvat the last two steps are actually reversed! It’s Nigredo, Albedo, Rubedo and THEN Citrinitas. Albedo’s ‘Feelings about Ascension’ Voicelines reveal this key difference. Curiously ‘Citrinitas’ is codified as ‘yellowing’ or ‘GOLD’. Sounds familiar, doesn’t it?
Correct! Can't rule out that it'll one day be stealth patched to put Rubedo last, but since it's been over a year now, perhaps it is intended and will tie into the lore as you've noted here. It'd be pretty clever!
Please forgive my messy thoughts but hopefully i can air it here. it's that TL;DR: JOEL'S DAD is SUS. i'd like for the speculation that the twobedos assimilated to be true, as it's more poetic, but i do remember albedo having a smug attitude at the Golden apple archipelago island storyquest as well as his own Character storyquest - threatening to summon 6 oceanids to test traveller. so the disappearing birthmark prank fits his personality. also albedo saying he felt a twinge of grief when he eliminated not-our-bedo, the latter whom btw survived/revived after being eaten by a dragon so anything goes after such elimination. I think a strong reason why albedo might kill the failedbedo was bec albedo cares deeply about the traveler's safety, where there's at least 3 lines in this event: "Still safety comes first, we do not know the identity of the thief..." "But please, whatever happens, put your safety first at all times" and "But I will endeavor to keep you safe, that much you can trust in". And he thinks the failed expt bedo would harm traveler for being able to discern, but so far none of the attempts were lethal to traveler, and failed exp even seems melancholic even more so than og bedo, but def not hostile when we meet him when he exits the cave. but thing is that the failed exp can also copy the likeness of an individual. remember eula saying something about one of the fakebedos wanting to take joel further, then pushing the child after being confronted? why does he need the child for? Joel's Dad not remembering anything at all and it being obvsly pointed out by the quest leads to several probable hypothesis, one of which is that fakebedo assimilated joserf's form sometime after albedo eliminated him. But idk everything is so muddled so bad that it's good. P.S. Albedo also mentions this story quest that creation is an arrogance. and that the sustainer of heavenly principles/unknown god destroys Khaenri'ah presumably for this. But she also tells the twins "The arrogation of mankind ends here". Maybe the twins are synthetic humans too. PPS In the pale princess and the six pygmies, it says that everyone in the Moonlight Forest Kingdom has fair skin, light-colored hair, and bright blue eyes, like Albedo. And that the description for the Land of the Night fits Khaenri'ah.
Thanks man, when I first meet him until now I felt uneasy about him, just the fact alone that he practice the creation of life puts him in my list of characters to be weary of.
Dainsleif would agree with you! It's most definitely a touchy subject, and Albedo himself seems to be aware that something beyond his control may ultimately happen, hence his line at the end of his first Story Quest.
Didn't the abyss twin or someone also task the traveler with finding the true meaning of this world?? maybe the traveler and albedo will team up to fight celestia/the sustainer of heavenly principles at the end
ok so. I read some wikipedia articles on alchemy, and noted that the conventional order is indeed rubedo as final and citrinatas as before that. however I saw smth mention that rubedo is associated with "gold"... wikipedia: Rubedo is a Latin word meaning "redness" that was adopted by alchemists to define the fourth and final major stage in their magnum opus. Both gold and the philosopher's stone were associated with the color red, as rubedo signaled alchemical success, and the end of the great work. Rubedo is also known by the Greek word iosis. so I google "iosis". one of the google results says: Iosis is a Greek word meaning 'the process by which a base metal becomes gold'. however, I have no idea how reliable this is since it's from a company's "about us" page. still, at least this implies that *rubedo* is associated with *gold*. I play genshin with EN subs and Chinese dub, since I can understand some Chinese. and of course I have Albedo, he's my absolute favourite playable character I love him. his voicelines refer to citrinatas as "黄金", aka GOLD (or literally, yellow gold). I suspect this might be why the order is switched? "rubedo" is referred to as 赤成. 赤 is a fancier word for red, and 成 is something like 'becoming'. so literally becoming red, or "reddening". note: "Gold" (Rhinedottir) is also referred to as 黄金, aka the same as "citrinatas" which I find very interesting. if this event is about Albedo's "rubedo" (3rd) stage, I suspect part 3 may involve meeting "Gold", Rhinedottir. If not, either way, it will have something to do with Albedo reaching his final stage...
Thanks! Things just started to fall into place with a bit of research. There are more interpretations, of course, but I think when we put alchemy at the forefront (which one should, because it is Albedo), this seems a very plausible series of events. I'm pretty convinced the imposter and Albedo are now one being, but we'll have to wait and see!
Me still no understand >.< So, am I right in thinking definitively, the 3rd albedo is the whopper flower, the 2nd albedo is the one who was resurrected/fed to durin who created the 3rd albedo, and the 1st albedo is the one we know of, the one created AFTER the presumed-dead second albedo? And the albedo we know/1st albedo was there before and after the main events of Shadows amidst snowstorms next to the crafting table? The whole neck-mark thing + Albedo's smirks at completely random times makes me doubt but double doubt and not know who tf he is D:
As for the order the Albedos, yes, that sounds about right. Personally, I think Albedo and the Imposter Albedo have combined into one being and are currently undergoing the alchemical stage of Rubedo, which would explain his varying behavior at the end. There would be an internal struggle going on as their personalities, emotions, thoughts, everything, merge into one being. But, y'know, just speculation.
You know, what if Rheindotter or "Gold", is Alice. She is at least 500 years old, which coincides with the Cataclysm, meaning she could come from Khean'riah. We also know Alchemy is one of fer skills and she is Really, really good at it. And Khaemy is based on alchhemy, but taken to the extreme. What im trying to say is Rhinedotter=Alice
your regular testing the limits of genshin boundaries are all wonderful but this was a lovely little change of pace! i'd love to see more exploring-the-lore videos like this, even if its just the characters that you are personally interested in :]
Not that related but paimons hairpin is the same shape as albedos neck mark, (and nearly the same as a primogem) are there any other objects in this shape? And the potential implications of it having the same meaning on paimon? Edit: Thanks for the high quality lore video, looking forward to more like it!
Hmm. Not that I'm aware of. At first glance, some of the ornaments on Dainsleif's outfit kinda resemble the shape? Specifically, the diamond-shaped things near the top of his cape. Feels like a stretch, though. There's not enough evidence that I'm aware of to make any sort of educated guess, but if I were to take a shot in the dark, I would say the star shape is a symbol related to "energy of the universe," which in theory could loosely transcribe as aether.
In the teyvat travel guide video, the star was seen as the abyss mark. The abyss also comes from khaenriah. So maybe the star mark refers as a symbol for people from khaenriah? If that is true.......Paimon could be from khaenriah.
Now that the Enkanomiya quests are out. What if the "Primordial" in the name refers to the "Primordial one" in the book "Before Sun and Moon"? It was claimed in the book that another entity called "Second Who Came" overthrew the Primordial one and most theories says that the Second Who Came are the Celestians (Presumably from another world). So, my small theory is that Rhinedottir was actually NOT a villain and she was trying to create a mass of "Primordial ones" to rebel against Celestia, as Celestia is being revealed to be the enemy everytime a new Archon Quest is dropped.
So I guess what we do know for sure is that subject 2 cannot replace the real albedo until he kills the traveler, so as long as we (the traveler) are alive subject 2 cannot kill the albedo we know
as someone who took a break from genshin and missed the events following the chalk dragon prince, im really happy you made this!! it's well organized and the way you tell it is very clear!
I like how exploiting the fact that “imperfection is what makes us human” is exactly how you identify and block bots. Take the case with the captcha for example. Clever way the game is speaking to the fourth wall.
I am thinking that the whole time, I began playing genshin to late, so I couldn't do this event. That informations are so important, I also don't understand, but I hope they will repeat it
So there's enough evidence to say (at least with some certainty), that the albedo we know is still alive, and hasn't been replaced ( yet;) ) by subject two right ?, I honestly just need closure.
There's only some character i would say they have a deep well done lore and the best exemple is Zhongli but.. i would say that Albedo lore is pretty good too.
Does the Traveler absorb the corruption to purify an object??? Is that why there is sediment in the alchemy bottle that has the purple coloring of corruption?
Not in this one! Although it's a fair point, given his reappearance may be linked to the imposter. Joserf may or may not appear in another lore video I'm potentially looking to release, but research is still being compiled and sorted.
this is pretty late but i doubt it. as an albedo enthusiast for two years i noticed he's always serious about his birthmark, yet the ending albedo made a joke about it and messed with traveller. Albedo may tease, but he's not one to do mentally play with anyone
i am new to this game, though i have completed every character story quest but i have seen only albedo story quest 1 is there any other thing where i can find the second albedo and the wopperflower
Unfortunately, they made two of Albedo's story quests limited-time events. They currently cannot be played. There has also never been an event re-run in Genshin's history, so you may just want to watch someone's playthrough of it on TH-cam if you're curious about the story.
@@Moosashi I started playing it and two days into the event my computer decided to stop working ;-; Thankfully I have my best friend working on it, so my account isn't missing anything, but the cutscenes.. *sobs*
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Albedo: *a creation untouched by the Gods*
Zhongli: "here's a vision"
Albedo:thx this is an absolute lovely beacon
I'm pretty sure archons don't give visions ..
@@Krissy.6969 visions are obtained by exceeding the expectations of the gods, what are archons? gods.
@@aarinchidamber8194 Nope celestia gave vision
It says that the visions are given by te gods when exceeding their expectations in the loading menu
Albedo carries the whole genshin lore on his back
I must agree with Cyno on this one. Albedo rocks.
@@Netsuki cyno? Nah, its the archons and everyone under the abyss like keaya and albedo alchemy
@@bissibo9542 No, You didn't get it. Albedo is geo... therefor he rocks. That's why I agreed with Cyno, because it was a pun.
@@Netsuki oh.. I thought you meant bc albedo like’s cyno’s jokes, as was revealed in windblume
@@axolotdraws9946 Haha, no, I just always make the punk geo = somebody rocks.
This really adds to my theory on Durin.. That Durin wasn't always a skeletal rotting dragon of venom. I believe the original Albedo (Subject 2) poisoned him from within his stomach, either with alchemy or because of his impurities that Gold oh so detested, slowly poisoning Durin's body and mind, to a point he goes completely aggro though not by his own will (Which shown through the Dragontooth spear description details).
It's unclear if after Durin's immediate death does Subject 2 escape his belly or if he was unable to for years after the incident due to being in a deep slumber or the belly still being too intact for him to break free from. Maybe the first Albedo quest hints towards the time of his escape when Albedo finds the Festering Desire, aka. Subject 2's sword created using alchemy and Durin's blood. Meaning he's been out and about on Dragonspine for a long while if the sword has been out in other people's hands, or maybe it was stolen when he wasn't looking and didn't care enough to get it back.
For someone so eager to replace Albedo, this imposter is actually quite patient. He knows when the time is right and isn't one to make mistakes lightly, which is why he created the Whopperflower to stir trouble and bring light to his possible existence. He's testing the waters while also gathering data on the "wrench in his plans" (the Traveler). The last chapter of the recent event shows the confidence he has in himself, boldly acting slightly out of character, twisting previously mentioned metaphors and references, even sending an indirect threat in killing the Traveler alone on the ice cold mountain. It wasn't a mistake when his mark disappeared then reappeared, he planned it, to confuse the "gardener" and gather more data on the Traveler and what weaknesses or perceptive skills they may have. He sowed a seed of doubt and confusion within their minds, so the next time he makes an appearance, the Traveler wouldn't be so confident in foiling his perfect future.
Oohh, "Durin wasn't always a skeletal rotting dragon of venom." Interesting! I have a Durin and Dragonspine video in the very early stages of work, due to a ton of material found while researching Albedo. In the event I go through with creating the video, would you be okay with me using parts of your first paragraph as reference? I would use an image of your comment, possibly with only the relevant parts to Durin, with your username fully on display, and I would also address the ideas as coming from you in the narration. I've done similarly on past videos, such as the Shrine of Depths one (it's near the end of the video), if you want an example of how it looks.
The imposter using the "gardener" example is such a big thing. It's like...how does he know about it? Was he just listening in on the conversation? Does he use it because he, too, is the same as Albedo and thus would think similarly? Did they merge and it's used because the memory of the conversation is present? Or...did he just use it by total chance and it's all a coincidence, haha. Regardless, using it and the mark shenanigans as a way to sow doubt is a BIG possibility.
You've got good ideas, pal!
@@Moosashi Oh for sure you can use my comment as reference! It was a thought i had as i was playing the event. It just made sense after thinking about how Albesus was disposed of by Gold. Why make Durin eat him? And why would Durin be so loving and joyous in his mind while looking so evil and doing evil things? His design doesn't look like something Gold would create even by accident.
I suspect Albesus managed to watch the whole conversation, just as he was watching Albedo from the third cutscene. I don't think they merged, but from how Albedo worded the fake's appearance.. "He shaped himself in my image" something along those lines, might suggest the imposter wasn't even made exactly like Albedo in terms of looks. So that may be evidence in the fake just being that flexible in changing his form.
It was 100% intentional. The whole interaction was like an inside joke but with sinister undertones, everything he said and did was like he wasn't trying to hide, but wasn't trying to out himself either. The real Albedo wouldn't warn us or give us info in such a confusing convoluted way as he was doing, especially while contradicting everything he said back on the mountain. "Being a gardener isn't so bad" contradicts his ponderings on "what right do we have to be creators?" I'm super impressed how the Traveler's confusion led to everyone else to doubt themselves too, he's *that* scary!
@@sundalosketch4769 yeah he likes getting under peoples skin.
I was one of the unlucky players that started too late to experience this amazing quest. I only hear how awesome it was. Albedo is simply one of the best characters in the games in terms of many things. He has interesting personality, he is involved with so much lore and he is just a chad.
Albedos lore is honestly the best
Agreed. There's a lot of good lore in the game, but his story, and everything related to it, really stands out from the rest. It's just so very intriguing.
@@Moosashi yes and that is what makes it so interesting
And i wish new players like me could experience it :(
I know next to nothing about this guy...
This lore is complex enough to bring you back in game bounds to explain it to us.
Now, the part about Albedo and Susbedo working together does makes more sense. Since, neither will Albedo lose from Susbedo because of plot armor and that he's my favorite character (also he's smarter and knows all Susbedo's plans). Nor will Albedo kill Susbedo, since he sympathizes with Susbedo, as shown in ending cut scene of part 2. And, knowing Albedo, he will choose the option where he gets to learn more (about Gold, Gold's creations). The only reason he likes to be in Dragonspine is Durin and the fact that anything about it may bring him closer to finding Gold, I'd guess. And now he has got a living, breathing Subject, he won't waste that.
So, from what I can make out of the story, what Albedo might have chosen is to let Susbedo play social part of Albedo, in exchange of letting Albedo do research on him. In this way, both will be happy.
(Sorry for bad english. And, I love your videos.)
Another commentor posted in the community section a similar theory to yours, that Albedo and the Imposter come to an agreement. All of which happens off screen, between acts two and three of the quest. Definitely possible. The ending is very open to interpretation. Personally, I still believe the two have merged into one being. In alchemy, the stage of albedo removes impurities, and it is implied the Imposter bears many traits of human negativity (impurities), all of which the real Albedo lacks. In the fourth stage of alchemy, the Rubedo, reunification between these separated entities happens, creating the "perfected form," so to speak.
i feel bad for albedo no.1... mann imagine being born with feelings instantly and get feed to a monster, by your creator no less.
no wonder he is filled with thoughts like perfection and stuff
I would like to note that the game has a bit of a different order for alchemy, as Albedo's ascension voice-overs list them in the order of Nigredo, Albedo, Rubedo, and finally Citrinitas. So, if your speculation is true and the Albedo we see is a combination of him and the other Albedo, then it would imply that there's actually one more step in Albedo's journey: the awakening, or the solar dawn. And, according to his in game voice-over, Albedo defines Citrinitas as when "the meaning of the object being transmuted has finally been brought to light, becoming gold and revealing its true value." So, if Albedo truly does have another stage, then it might be when he finally reveals his true nature or "awakens", which could be the destruction of Mondstadt (or attempted destruction) that he foretold in his first story quest.
Yeah, it's interesting that they reversed the last two steps. Perhaps they changed the order to give more of a spin on their Art of Khemia idea and make it fit better with the story they want to tell. Or it could end up just being stealth patched sometime in the future. I'd be curious to know if his voice-overs in other languages also refer to Citrinitas as the last step.
I'd be more than okay with it turning out as you have it written here. The foreshadowing that Albedo may end up doing something terrible against Mondstadt in the future is rooted with him dropping that line, and also with Rosaria's suspicions. The fight cutscene against the human-form Whopperflower was intense, and kinda has me wanting an actual boss battle against Albedo.
Everyone saying "i hope we'll see more kayea lore in shneznaya", but i want albedo lore, ESPECIALLY since the doll harbinger is quite similair
Same here! Let us all send our hopes and wishes that HoYoverse doesn't skip Albedo and Dragonspine again this December/January!
What a really put together video, dude! I'm excited to see more lore stuff from you. One thing to note though is that Albedo claims in his voicelines that Citrinitas is the final stage of alchemy. Idk if this is a mistake on Albedo's part or this is just how alchemy works in Genshin. He also likens gold to Citrinitas instead of Rubedo (which is puts into context the alias Rhinedottir ends up donning).
Thanks! And yes, that is true about the voicelines. I was originally going to add an "Extras" part at the end, and that bit was included there, as well as Albedo syncing up quite well with the ideas presented in the Four Temperaments. The "Melancholic" descriptor used for him near the beginning was going to tie into that bit, since Melancholic is one of the Four Temperaments and it fits him to a T, even down to his element.
I've heard speculation that this mistake foreshadows some mistake on Albedo's part
Citrinitas is the final stage of alchemy
GOTTA SAY you’re on of my favorite creators who does genshin vids,, you’re vids are so entertaining and your voice and narration are so pleasant !!
The f”first” Albedo only took Albedo’s form to take his place and probably didn’t look like him originally
You're a lifesaver, now I understand a lot more! (I wasn't playing yet at the time the event was online, it should be put in a story quest fr)
Yeah it should. Big shame that major character stories like this are time-limited events.
I think there's going to be a final Dragonspine event next year to finish up this tale.
i hope so sobbing
@@aml___3918 I adore Dragonspine lore
@@eta.... same! so so much! sadly dragonspine is the laggiest map for me qwq
Very important detail I feel I need to bring up; in Teyvat the last two steps are actually reversed! It’s Nigredo, Albedo, Rubedo and THEN Citrinitas. Albedo’s ‘Feelings about Ascension’ Voicelines reveal this key difference. Curiously ‘Citrinitas’ is codified as ‘yellowing’ or ‘GOLD’. Sounds familiar, doesn’t it?
Correct! Can't rule out that it'll one day be stealth patched to put Rubedo last, but since it's been over a year now, perhaps it is intended and will tie into the lore as you've noted here. It'd be pretty clever!
Please forgive my messy thoughts but hopefully i can air it here. it's that TL;DR: JOEL'S DAD is SUS.
i'd like for the speculation that the twobedos assimilated to be true, as it's more poetic, but i do remember albedo having a smug attitude at the Golden apple archipelago island storyquest as well as his own Character storyquest - threatening to summon 6 oceanids to test traveller. so the disappearing birthmark prank fits his personality.
also albedo saying he felt a twinge of grief when he eliminated not-our-bedo, the latter whom btw survived/revived after being eaten by a dragon so anything goes after such elimination. I think a strong reason why albedo might kill the failedbedo was bec albedo cares deeply about the traveler's safety, where there's at least 3 lines in this event: "Still safety comes first, we do not know the identity of the thief..." "But please, whatever happens, put your safety first at all times" and "But I will endeavor to keep you safe, that much you can trust in". And he thinks the failed expt bedo would harm traveler for being able to discern, but so far none of the attempts were lethal to traveler, and failed exp even seems melancholic even more so than og bedo, but def not hostile when we meet him when he exits the cave.
but thing is that the failed exp can also copy the likeness of an individual. remember eula saying something about one of the fakebedos wanting to take joel further, then pushing the child after being confronted? why does he need the child for? Joel's Dad not remembering anything at all and it being obvsly pointed out by the quest leads to several probable hypothesis, one of which is that fakebedo assimilated joserf's form sometime after albedo eliminated him. But idk everything is so muddled so bad that it's good.
P.S. Albedo also mentions this story quest that creation is an arrogance. and that the sustainer of heavenly principles/unknown god destroys Khaenri'ah presumably for this. But she also tells the twins "The arrogation of mankind ends here". Maybe the twins are synthetic humans too.
PPS In the pale princess and the six pygmies, it says that everyone in the Moonlight Forest Kingdom has fair skin, light-colored hair, and bright blue eyes, like Albedo. And that the description for the Land of the Night fits Khaenri'ah.
Thanks man, when I first meet him until now I felt uneasy about him, just the fact alone that he practice the creation of life puts him in my list of characters to be weary of.
Dainsleif would agree with you! It's most definitely a touchy subject, and Albedo himself seems to be aware that something beyond his control may ultimately happen, hence his line at the end of his first Story Quest.
Didn't the abyss twin or someone also task the traveler with finding the true meaning of this world?? maybe the traveler and albedo will team up to fight celestia/the sustainer of heavenly principles at the end
ok so. I read some wikipedia articles on alchemy, and noted that the conventional order is indeed rubedo as final and citrinatas as before that. however I saw smth mention that rubedo is associated with "gold"...
wikipedia:
Rubedo is a Latin word meaning "redness" that was adopted by alchemists to define the fourth and final major stage in their magnum opus. Both gold and the philosopher's stone were associated with the color red, as rubedo signaled alchemical success, and the end of the great work. Rubedo is also known by the Greek word iosis.
so I google "iosis". one of the google results says:
Iosis is a Greek word meaning 'the process by which a base metal becomes gold'.
however, I have no idea how reliable this is since it's from a company's "about us" page.
still, at least this implies that *rubedo* is associated with *gold*.
I play genshin with EN subs and Chinese dub, since I can understand some Chinese. and of course I have Albedo, he's my absolute favourite playable character I love him.
his voicelines refer to citrinatas as "黄金", aka GOLD (or literally, yellow gold). I suspect this might be why the order is switched?
"rubedo" is referred to as 赤成. 赤 is a fancier word for red, and 成 is something like 'becoming'. so literally becoming red, or "reddening".
note: "Gold" (Rhinedottir) is also referred to as 黄金, aka the same as "citrinatas" which I find very interesting.
if this event is about Albedo's "rubedo" (3rd) stage, I suspect part 3 may involve meeting "Gold", Rhinedottir. If not, either way, it will have something to do with Albedo reaching his final stage...
This is a whole another level of editing and research! This is a job very well done! Love it!
Thanks! Things just started to fall into place with a bit of research. There are more interpretations, of course, but I think when we put alchemy at the forefront (which one should, because it is Albedo), this seems a very plausible series of events. I'm pretty convinced the imposter and Albedo are now one being, but we'll have to wait and see!
You have to do more lore videos like this, they're amazing
Thank you! I do want to pick up the topic of lore as more of a mainstay on the channel; I've neglected the topic for far too long.
Me still no understand >.<
So, am I right in thinking definitively, the 3rd albedo is the whopper flower, the 2nd albedo is the one who was resurrected/fed to durin who created the 3rd albedo, and the 1st albedo is the one we know of, the one created AFTER the presumed-dead second albedo? And the albedo we know/1st albedo was there before and after the main events of Shadows amidst snowstorms next to the crafting table?
The whole neck-mark thing + Albedo's smirks at completely random times makes me doubt but double doubt and not know who tf he is D:
As for the order the Albedos, yes, that sounds about right. Personally, I think Albedo and the Imposter Albedo have combined into one being and are currently undergoing the alchemical stage of Rubedo, which would explain his varying behavior at the end. There would be an internal struggle going on as their personalities, emotions, thoughts, everything, merge into one being. But, y'know, just speculation.
@@Moosashi sheeeessssshhhhhhh is all I have to say
I'm confused i thought the second albedo is the one we all know while the first is the one that was fed to durin and resurrected...?
You know, what if Rheindotter or "Gold", is Alice. She is at least 500 years old, which coincides with the Cataclysm, meaning she could come from Khean'riah. We also know Alchemy is one of fer skills and she is Really, really good at it. And Khaemy is based on alchhemy, but taken to the extreme. What im trying to say is Rhinedotter=Alice
your regular testing the limits of genshin boundaries are all wonderful but this was a lovely little change of pace! i'd love to see more exploring-the-lore videos like this, even if its just the characters that you are personally interested in :]
Y'all just keep giving me more reasons for albedo to be my favorite.
Not that related but paimons hairpin is the same shape as albedos neck mark, (and nearly the same as a primogem) are there any other objects in this shape? And the potential implications of it having the same meaning on paimon?
Edit: Thanks for the high quality lore video, looking forward to more like it!
Hmm. Not that I'm aware of. At first glance, some of the ornaments on Dainsleif's outfit kinda resemble the shape? Specifically, the diamond-shaped things near the top of his cape. Feels like a stretch, though. There's not enough evidence that I'm aware of to make any sort of educated guess, but if I were to take a shot in the dark, I would say the star shape is a symbol related to "energy of the universe," which in theory could loosely transcribe as aether.
Lumine's clothes also heavily feature the diamond shape, on the back of her dress and on the ends of the fly-away thingies
In the teyvat travel guide video, the star was seen as the abyss mark. The abyss also comes from khaenriah. So maybe the star mark refers as a symbol for people from khaenriah? If that is true.......Paimon could be from khaenriah.
Kaeya and Dainsleifs have those shapes for their pupils
Thak you,you made amazing editing.All the best- 👏
Cheers! Thanks for tuning in!
This is so well made!!! We shall hope to see more of Albedo's lore
Now that the Enkanomiya quests are out. What if the "Primordial" in the name refers to the "Primordial one" in the book "Before Sun and Moon"? It was claimed in the book that another entity called "Second Who Came" overthrew the Primordial one and most theories says that the Second Who Came are the Celestians (Presumably from another world). So, my small theory is that Rhinedottir was actually NOT a villain and she was trying to create a mass of "Primordial ones" to rebel against Celestia, as Celestia is being revealed to be the enemy everytime a new Archon Quest is dropped.
So I guess what we do know for sure is that subject 2 cannot replace the real albedo until he kills the traveler, so as long as we (the traveler) are alive subject 2 cannot kill the albedo we know
as someone who took a break from genshin and missed the events following the chalk dragon prince, im really happy you made this!! it's well organized and the way you tell it is very clear!
I like how exploiting the fact that “imperfection is what makes us human” is exactly how you identify and block bots. Take the case with the captcha for example. Clever way the game is speaking to the fourth wall.
So what I initially heard was albedo is albedo until her reaches 'perfection' to be Rubedo. basically changing "Al" and "Ru"
There's definitely significance in Rhinedottir's choice of name for him.
Something about durian
He's kinda related to lumine/aether ( lost one), delusion, albedo, fatui, unknown God and dark powers
im doing my project while watching this, and i tell you my mind just explodes whenever i hear complex words T-T
after hearing all of that im just thinking why hoyo would put all this information in events
I am thinking that the whole time, I began playing genshin to late, so I couldn't do this event. That informations are so important, I also don't understand, but I hope they will repeat it
3:31 THE WHAT NOW?
So there's enough evidence to say (at least with some certainty), that the albedo we know is still alive, and hasn't been replaced ( yet;) ) by subject two right ?, I honestly just need closure.
There's only some character i would say they have a deep well done lore and the best exemple is Zhongli but.. i would say that Albedo lore is pretty good too.
Thanks for explaining this to me big mon helped a lot
Moosashi not tryna break genshin? 🧐There is a change in the force
Bit of a change of pace! I still got a queue of content that needs created for breaking the game, so there will be more of that.
Im using the magnum opus for my essays, very noice.
Does the Traveler absorb the corruption to purify an object??? Is that why there is sediment in the alchemy bottle that has the purple coloring of corruption?
bro can draw all gnosis turn them into reality then use them to himself 🗿
The only thing I can and will say…
Bro-
I really need to see this video after commenting my view on your post
Yeah this is a good video ... that ending screwed with me ...
For sure, the end of the event story leaves a lot open to interpretation.
So we're not going to discuss Joserf?
Not in this one! Although it's a fair point, given his reappearance may be linked to the imposter. Joserf may or may not appear in another lore video I'm potentially looking to release, but research is still being compiled and sorted.
At the end of the event I think that's the real albedo :D
this is pretty late but i doubt it. as an albedo enthusiast for two years i noticed he's always serious about his birthmark, yet the ending albedo made a joke about it and messed with traveller. Albedo may tease, but he's not one to do mentally play with anyone
Epic
Chemia means chemistry in Arabic it's nice
Moosashi is the Mossbag of Genshin lol
i am new to this game, though i have completed every character story quest but i have seen only albedo story quest 1 is there any other thing where i can find the second albedo and the wopperflower
Unfortunately, they made two of Albedo's story quests limited-time events. They currently cannot be played. There has also never been an event re-run in Genshin's history, so you may just want to watch someone's playthrough of it on TH-cam if you're curious about the story.
@@Moosashi oh
HELL YES LORE WITH MOOSASHIIIII
do you think dvalin and durin would be friends?
I see.. I wasn't able to play the event for myself because my computer won't start, so I have to rely on TH-cam hhh
Aw man, that's a bummer. This is such a great story, although I'll admit the quest itself is pretty light on actual gameplay.
@@Moosashi I started playing it and two days into the event my computer decided to stop working ;-; Thankfully I have my best friend working on it, so my account isn't missing anything, but the cutscenes.. *sobs*
Wait what? When did this happen in the story? I’m not doubting you I just don’t remember, or was this an event?
I’ve been trying to understand Albedos backstory but I’m having so hard time following it
@@shio5234 same.. i was a too weak AR to complete this event at the time.. so i missed it
It happens during time limited events
Albedobesus
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When i watched this i cant trust him anymore
You: "Breaking down the story / lore"
me: Breaking down cuz I lost 50/50
Let us weep together, because I have yet to win the 50/50 in Genshin Impact, haha!