Why the Ottomans Never Colonized America?

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  • @KingsandGenerals
    @KingsandGenerals  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1750

    Our Ottoman battle series will make a comeback relatively soon. Turns out quarantine is not helpful, as libraries are not working.

    • @sauronmordor7494
      @sauronmordor7494 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      :)

    • @amrobaid1116
      @amrobaid1116 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      الترجمة العربية

    • @tntcng5974
      @tntcng5974 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      early arab conquest second part needed

    • @anonymousanonymous7250
      @anonymousanonymous7250 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I second. Can you make individual episodes from your big Arab Conquest episode?

    • @denniscleary7580
      @denniscleary7580 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Keep up the great work guys

  • @jeffrey1017
    @jeffrey1017 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4825

    America is out of colonial range for the Ottomans to colonize, unless they conquered Morocco (which they never had), in this case only a late game diplomatic tech could help them colonize America

    • @goetlandheysa6605
      @goetlandheysa6605 4 ปีที่แล้ว +416

      jeffrey1017 I guess you have played Europa Universalis XD

    • @krankarvolund7771
      @krankarvolund7771 4 ปีที่แล้ว +190

      @Plo Koon Err.. what? XD
      They never lost the spice trade, at least not when they were still a big power, they just had to share it. But the Aceh Sultanate for example was a big concurrent for portuguese-controlled Malacca and traded almost exclusively with Ottomans ^^

    • @ulverup
      @ulverup 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      @Plo Koon Fighting over routes is different though. I don't see how the Iberian navies would've prevented the ottomans from landing a large army somewhere in the Americas.

    • @shirleysiu5958
      @shirleysiu5958 4 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      You will have access to most of the African, SE Asian, Australian colonies after annexing the Mamluks. If you would get all the colonization ideas, you may still be fast enough to grab some colonies in South America or even North America. Anyway, there isn't a colony the mighty Ottomans could not get by force.

    • @Argal1ad
      @Argal1ad 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      I see you are a man of culture as well

  • @Carlo-zk2cy
    @Carlo-zk2cy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3210

    The Ottoman Empire suffered the same problem Eastern Romans (or Byzantines) had.
    They have enemies in all sides.

    • @angryyoungman66
      @angryyoungman66 4 ปีที่แล้ว +226

      well they made those enemies
      because they didn't treat well the people of the new lands the ottamans took

    • @nazenaze78
      @nazenaze78 4 ปีที่แล้ว +793

      if the ottoman hadn't behaved well, now all balkans would be speaking Turkish

    • @Muslimahhhh
      @Muslimahhhh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +468

      @@angryyoungman66 No they treated people from the new lands well. Where did you hear they didn't? They were just to all christian, jews, and muslims of the lands they took. They made enemies cause they were jealous. Don't you know the basics of the Ottoman Empire and how the father of the founder of the Ottoman Empire was one of the best muslim men who fought for Adalete (Justice) He taught the same to his son Osman and Osman to his kids. They took lands and they kept those lands because the people preferred their keeping it then the ones from before.

    • @mdmahbubulalam2170
      @mdmahbubulalam2170 4 ปีที่แล้ว +501

      @@angryyoungman66 remember all the jews that had to leave europe to escape church's persecution? The ottomans gave them refuge...Had it been not for the generosity of the ottomans,all of balkan would speak turkish and say azan today.

    • @nerino_chan
      @nerino_chan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +207

      NUEVO HEMRES “Being a Turk is hard you fight against the world. Not being a Turk is harder , you fight against the Turks”

  • @emirhantekin1800
    @emirhantekin1800 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2515

    They didn't have Turkish Airlines back then.

    • @bigbobbybob6810
      @bigbobbybob6810 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @3alaiyer
      @3alaiyer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      what,,, is there something i’m missing or is this the lamest joke ever

    • @almira4745
      @almira4745 4 ปีที่แล้ว +119

      @@3alaiyer who hurt u :(

    • @adhirizkyputra
      @adhirizkyputra 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      LoL, good one

    • @icemanchambers1207
      @icemanchambers1207 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@almira4745 His Mommy :,(

  • @mr.fastliferotterdam8674
    @mr.fastliferotterdam8674 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2577

    If Ottoman colonized USA :
    New Yozgat
    Los Ankara
    Mardniami
    Las Vangas
    Siirteatlle

    • @dogukan69
      @dogukan69 4 ปีที่แล้ว +413

      @Antoine Shelby we are not arab, and we have never used these words BRUHH...

    • @mafiastyle88
      @mafiastyle88 4 ปีที่แล้ว +307

      Laz Vegas

    • @somedude8477
      @somedude8477 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @Antoine Shelby lmfao

    • @aguyonthenet9061
      @aguyonthenet9061 4 ปีที่แล้ว +110

      Antoine Shelby your name would have been Ahmed

    • @furkanykilmz9383
      @furkanykilmz9383 4 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      Hahahaha as a Turk, I would confirm this would be 100% true.

  • @CommieRaptor
    @CommieRaptor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2252

    It is not nessecary to search for New lands, when you already have control of trading with East.

    • @jamaaldaynitelong8367
      @jamaaldaynitelong8367 4 ปีที่แล้ว +89

      Makes sense.

    • @El-Silver
      @El-Silver 4 ปีที่แล้ว +73

      Unknow to them the new trade routes made the old ones less important

    • @Kevin-sq8sg
      @Kevin-sq8sg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +114

      @@El-Silver its not less important, its still very important. But the ottoman empire was a hostile power for the christian kingdoms of europe, so they instead chose the other routes which are significantly longer, but tax free.

    • @Strrroke
      @Strrroke 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Yep, back in the day it just looked like a risky investment.

    • @theravada6714
      @theravada6714 4 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      Yes Exactly, Europeans who could not control the trade routes were looking for another way to go to India. Meanwhile, they accidentally discovered America.

  • @wavemix1617
    @wavemix1617 4 ปีที่แล้ว +132

    I don't know who does your art and editing for these videos but they are becoming ridiculously high quality. They are almost as interesting to watch as the stories themselves! Kudos!

    • @umaransari9765
      @umaransari9765 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Agree, I thought they couldn't improve their quality more but they are improving their animations and overall quality every week

  • @krankarvolund7771
    @krankarvolund7771 4 ปีที่แล้ว +580

    So, Venize had a monopoly to buy things from Mamluks who had also a monopoly? No wonder spices were expensive as hell at the time, double monopoloy plus the transport fees XD

    • @vonxoliver
      @vonxoliver 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Everyone needs money my brother

    • @krankarvolund7771
      @krankarvolund7771 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@vonxoliver It's not a judgement or a critique ;)

    • @vonxoliver
      @vonxoliver 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@krankarvolund7771 i know

    • @akapbhan
      @akapbhan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Then British came and took it with five finger discount

    • @krankarvolund7771
      @krankarvolund7771 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@order_truth_involvement6135 Trade nodes are in EU IV no? ^^

  • @Siskiyous6
    @Siskiyous6 4 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Outstanding - I am sorry I missed this in July, what a great look into some overlooked history!

  • @misterbeach8826
    @misterbeach8826 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1103

    it is perhaps worth mentioning, from a historian's perspective, that the americas were less profitable than india and china until the 20th century. this is usually overseen, if you are not an academic historian, or familiar with economics. although spain became rich thanks to the silver mines of the americas, it was still inferior to both india and china until today. we, westerners, often overestimate the wealth of the americas, although it should be clear that the heavily populated and developed empires of south and east asia, especially the indian sub continent and china, were the number 1 and 2 wealthiest economies until 1850 for good reasons. yes, great britain became the world's biggest economical power only after it took large portions of india, and after it defeated china, and then won in the second industrial revolution (around 1850).

    • @vonxoliver
      @vonxoliver 4 ปีที่แล้ว +79

      Yes, it was super unnecessary for the Ottomans because they had everything back then.

    • @chris_2208
      @chris_2208 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      wow!

    • @cool06alt
      @cool06alt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@celdur4635 the gold and silver only led to inflation or as the casus belli of Opium War had shown, just unsustainable commodity compared to the wealth and bulk of Asian industry products.

    • @averageperson8274
      @averageperson8274 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Think about how tough would it be to even get some silver and gold from the Americas back even if they succeeded, they would still face raids and attacks against the Spanish, they would have their colonies constantly under threat by the Spanish, and the Portuguese, I mean sooner or later it would be knocked out of the game no?

    • @thelifesampler
      @thelifesampler 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      are you really sure?. There were many products from the americas that replaced indian and china products some were even of higher quality and cheaper. England was big because of India and china? Yes maybe but not mainly for the products of those places. As far as I remember England mayor economy income came in the form of manufactured objects being clothes one of the most profitable thing they exported everywhere. They not only sell their clothes to Europe but they sell it to all of their colonies and non colonies, the same with tea and else.

  • @flavho
    @flavho 4 ปีที่แล้ว +426

    “He who controls the spice, controls the universe “

    • @gamebawesome
      @gamebawesome 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      The spice must flow

    • @fathfez7991
      @fathfez7991 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What happened if He is a She

    • @gobimurugesan2411
      @gobimurugesan2411 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@fathfez7991 controlling women is first step in becoming a civilization. All over the world it's same

    • @danurkresnamurti3598
      @danurkresnamurti3598 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      well, Indonesia have spice.

    • @marcusburns6536
      @marcusburns6536 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Ah, I see you're a man of culture as well.

  • @ElBandito
    @ElBandito 4 ปีที่แล้ว +510

    Ottomans: We control the spice routes!
    Europeans: We got cocaine!

  • @alptekinergin5561
    @alptekinergin5561 4 ปีที่แล้ว +290

    i read history a lot and i think i am capable of analyzing it in modest level.
    So as a turkish person i can tell that this video is the most accurate and precise source to suggest to people even in turkey...congrats my friends, following you since 2017... love u :)

    • @JRobbySh
      @JRobbySh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Your history ia far greater than most people know.

    • @hayots_lernashkharh
      @hayots_lernashkharh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@JRobbySh not really. turkish history isnt nearly as old or as “great” as other nations

    • @ketzer4
      @ketzer4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@hayots_lernashkharh what do you mean by that? Don't get that in a negativ way i'm just curious.

    • @jordanschlansky4093
      @jordanschlansky4093 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@hayots_lernashkharh Check out this clown. Nobody said anything about other nations/civilizations. Just a statement that it is great, which it is.

    • @namonama3635
      @namonama3635 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hayots_lernashkharh why are you mad
      And why isn't it great

  • @SMRomanov
    @SMRomanov 4 ปีที่แล้ว +590

    The only thing of Turkish origin that colonized Latin America was his TV series

    • @aesop1451
      @aesop1451 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      And its immigrants. There's a bunch of Arabs in Latin America. Carlos Slim "from Mexico" is the fifth-richest person in the world. Nayib Bukele is the President of El Salvador. And Shakira's family is from Lebanon.

    • @EmisoraRadioPatio
      @EmisoraRadioPatio 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Ben Ova Vast majority of immigrants from the Ottoman Empire in Latin America are Arabs. They are mostly Lebanese and Palestinian Christians, who are Arab, such as the Maronites.

    • @Furkan-zs7uz
      @Furkan-zs7uz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +113

      @@UmaiAna98 Fool yourself, the Ottoman is mostly Turkish. Not even a small minority of Arabs in Turkey do not even now you can observe not only the Kurds as a minority nobody else

    • @bar1825
      @bar1825 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      There is no such a thing as Turkish diaspora in Latin America. All of them are christians of ottoman empire. Mostly levantines but also Armenians.

    • @firk407
      @firk407 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Samsunlu 55 It‘s false to say that today the majority of turkish people just have middle eastern roots. There are also greek roots. Generally considered, there is a proper mixing.

  • @napoleonibonaparte7198
    @napoleonibonaparte7198 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1814

    They only sought to destroy the Fountain of Youth, with help from a Scottish knight and a pirate

    • @evrensaygn1017
      @evrensaygn1017 4 ปีที่แล้ว +359

      Ah, another man of culture!

    • @Dfathurr
      @Dfathurr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +179

      And accidentaly, the scottish knight, out of curiousity, manage to drink it

    • @hellothere4858
      @hellothere4858 4 ปีที่แล้ว +124

      and of course to fight against the circle

    • @arinball
      @arinball 4 ปีที่แล้ว +193

      A ship has arrived from Malta!

    • @NarutoDora
      @NarutoDora 4 ปีที่แล้ว +111

      AoE3 Legends

  • @EinarAI
    @EinarAI 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Just wanted to say how high-quality this channel is!

  • @Kogasengaha_Hishoshi
    @Kogasengaha_Hishoshi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +471

    *Reads title*
    Me: "They had Otto tings to do."

  • @YakMotley
    @YakMotley 4 ปีที่แล้ว +121

    Great video!

  • @popstarresearchingoblivion8778
    @popstarresearchingoblivion8778 4 ปีที่แล้ว +182

    People tend to forget that creating a transocean empire was a remarkably difficult task and, contrary to the common belief, they consumed more resources than could be benefited from. France failed in creating a sustainable colony, England needed over a century and The Netherlands only created little more than commercial posts. The Otomans never had a realistic chance.

    • @iagosevatar4865
      @iagosevatar4865 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Interesting statement.

    • @xXxSkyViperxXx
      @xXxSkyViperxXx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      i wonder how space colonization will turn out

    • @Sawrattan
      @Sawrattan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I think the French simply never bothered enough about America. Their main concern was always France's place in Western Europe, hence Napoleon's cavalier abandonment of Louisiana just so he could focus on Europe.

    • @dailybls
      @dailybls 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      You make it sound as if it wasn't a good deal for the colonizers and they spent more wealth on the colonies than they extracted from them. That is a preposterous statement. Obviously not true, as it is not sane nor natural for humans to go against their self interest. You're also suggesting that it was a 'too difficult task' for the ottomans, even though the video clearly shows that it was difficult because of very specific reasons, not because they lacked the ability. Your comment is reeking of racism in many ways, against ottomans, against colonized people, and frankly, it's pathetic. It's obvious that the western europeans, due to their geographic advantage, got to colonize and that created the wealth and the success of their societies in the following centuries. Without the riches of faraway lands, who knows, they would probably all be colonized by Ottomans instead, as the eastern europe already had! It is truly chillingly pathetic and racist that you think of colonization as an 'accomplishment', a 'difficult task' the western europeans had undertaken and succeeded in. Why? Why would that be? Are they superior, smarter human beings? Cause that's clearly what you are trying to imply only you are too much of a coward to say it out directly. Truly pathetic. Hate your kind of racists. If you're going to be one, have the balls to be one openly .

    • @SR-yz9tg
      @SR-yz9tg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@dailybls cringe

  • @vivir_en
    @vivir_en 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Este canal es sencillamente excelente!

  • @hkarmy7526
    @hkarmy7526 4 ปีที่แล้ว +392

    And then we'll talk about why no Austrian Colonies...

    • @damanbhashaphranglyngskor1102
      @damanbhashaphranglyngskor1102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Shame there's no James bizenette

    • @popstarresearchingoblivion8778
      @popstarresearchingoblivion8778 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Austrians had their own empire to colonize

    • @hkarmy7526
      @hkarmy7526 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @E Fig True, the Habsburg monarchy controlled both spain and Austria, but I dont think the many Austrians or broadly speaking citizens of the HRE would choose to move away from their home land.

    • @fritz404
      @fritz404 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think they had colony in North Borneo

    • @antokarman2064
      @antokarman2064 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@fritz404 you mean the philippines ?

  • @95bekirable
    @95bekirable 4 ปีที่แล้ว +380

    Two things are missing in this video:
    Columbus asked Ottoman Sultan Bayezid II for sponsorship to his project, which was declined. (However, i am informed that this story is fabricated later by Evliya Çelebi in 17th century)
    Hayreddin Barbarossa suggested venturing to Americas, which the Grand Vizier Ibrahim Pasha declined, stating that "The Empire should focus on dominating the Mediterranean and Indian Ocean.

    • @vonxoliver
      @vonxoliver 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Thank you for your information

    • @furkankara7813
      @furkankara7813 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yok lan öyle bir şey evliya çelebinin götünden uydurduğu bir hikaye o bayezid hikayesi :D ilber hocanın kendisi bile söyledi geçenlerde

    • @RexGalilae
      @RexGalilae 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      @Emir Eser
      Dumb decisions? The Americas were basically a goose chase after Indian riches.
      The Ottomans HAD Indian riches and instead focused on controlling it

    • @furkankara7813
      @furkankara7813 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Emir Eser Dumb decisions falan yok bu arada. İlk söylediği hiç olmamış bir hikaye ikincisi ise hayreddin istese bile hangi gemiyle gidicekler amerikaya? Kürekli kadırgalarla koca okyanusu aşması teknik olarak mümkün değil sanki ibrahim izin verse gidebileceklerdi :D Okyanusta gemi yüzdürmek tamamen farklı bir konu ve Osmanlı donanması bu konu hakkında bir tecrübeye sahip değildi hiçbir zamanda olamadı zaten. Portekiz gibi denizci ülkenin bile kıyıdan kıyıdan afrikanın burnuna ulaşması için kaç tane denizci öldü gitti bir sürü sefer yapıldı öyle geminin ucunu Amerikaya çevirince varmıyorsun oraya.

    • @vonxoliver
      @vonxoliver 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @Emir Eser not dumb, but unnecessary. First, why the hell you need to sponsor an enemy traveler?
      second, Ottoman already controlling Indian sea and old trade routes, venturing Americas would be expensive and risky since Spain and Morocco are controlling the Gibraltar. Ottoman empire is too fragile for another expansion
      Geographical disadvantages is the main reason behind all of this

  • @DJSbros
    @DJSbros 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I've literally been waiting for somebody to make a video explaining exactly this topic for years, thanks so much you guys i love your channel! :D

  • @yavuzyorulmaz.de.
    @yavuzyorulmaz.de. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Don't know why the Turkish historians don't focus on this topic. Best video so far on this topic! Unfortunately the Ottoman Empire is very unknown to the Europeans although they changed the history remarkeble. Thanks you for introducing them!

  • @man-who-sold-the-world
    @man-who-sold-the-world 4 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Ottomans were surrounded by predatory empires. Uk geography was a blessing.

    • @kitshuter9735
      @kitshuter9735 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Opens my eyes a bit. Were we on easy mode?

    • @mmatadore1
      @mmatadore1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Chat noir Explain me, biggest predator by what? Taking taxes? LOL

    • @zmba6924
      @zmba6924 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      "Geography is destiny."
      - Ibn khaldun

    • @RedbadvanRijn-ft3vv
      @RedbadvanRijn-ft3vv 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Chat noir
      Islam fights all religions.
      So it was good ottoman empire broke.

    • @o-o2399
      @o-o2399 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Booter Shooter you corward choping off peoples head reilgon of peace my ass.

  • @frankx8739
    @frankx8739 4 ปีที่แล้ว +428

    The 'Calif of California' would have been a cool title, but they would have called the place something else anyway.

    • @bt7348
      @bt7348 4 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      Hahaha, we call it Kaliforniya.

    • @mirandapillsbury7885
      @mirandapillsbury7885 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      California is actually derived from an arabic-spanish hybrid word and though the ottomans are Turks they used a lot of Arabic at that time so maybe could have stayed that way lol

    • @plwjk3879
      @plwjk3879 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Caliopornia sounds nice , Calif of Calipornia would be legendary

    • @andriadipura6393
      @andriadipura6393 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Los Angeles = Al-Malaikat?

    • @dr.doohickey
      @dr.doohickey 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Liberty Constitution Legacy Ah yes, the Taqiyyalies of WMDs.

  • @yukiomishimafan
    @yukiomishimafan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +787

    They didn’t colonize it because of today’s sponsor Raid: Shadow Legends

    • @bazeeg
      @bazeeg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      hahahaha XD

    • @MrLowrevia
      @MrLowrevia 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Explain

    • @firedude1Productions
      @firedude1Productions 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      😂😂

    • @baranjan6969
      @baranjan6969 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MrLowrevia they didn't want the raid ads to be in their language

    • @kamranmisri2366
      @kamranmisri2366 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Believe or not, Muslims have only one actual goal " Just To Spread True Religion The Islam To All Humanity". Colonization is unknown to Them.

  • @walid8108
    @walid8108 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Ottomans🇹🇷: we want to see the atlantic ocean.
    Morocco🇲🇦: go see it in national geographic, its so beautiful.

    • @walid8108
      @walid8108 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@revivalist355 We defendend ourselves, we fought just like the mamluks, the persians did. The only difference between us and theme, that we won, and the fell on the ottoman colonization. The ottomans imposed taxes on every people they colonize, like they were khawarij.

    • @finesse.4636
      @finesse.4636 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      We saw it already for centuries you french dog research 1576

    • @Handsomeman-q3i
      @Handsomeman-q3i 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@walid8108You moan about the ottomans yet you ignore the kufri states of the modern world 🤡 🤡 🤡

  • @abcdef27669
    @abcdef27669 4 ปีที่แล้ว +199

    Spain: "Never thought I would fight side by side with an islamite..."
    Saadi Morocco: "What about fighting alonside someone who also hate the Ottomans?"
    Spain: "Aye, I can do that..."

    • @ghostd69
      @ghostd69 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Word thise sayddi allied with spain aganist ottoman for the sake of interests so ottoman dont invade their country lol..both were scared from ottoman 😅

    • @lerneanlion
      @lerneanlion 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@aqqoyunlu1203 That's what led to the Anglo-Moroccan alliance.

    • @varana
      @varana 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      "Spain: "Never thought I would fight side by side with an islamite..."" They never said that in the first place. ;)

    • @zakariaalami1491
      @zakariaalami1491 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Morocco was in a pricurious situation in one side there is the inbeleivers in iberia which they were the rivals of the moroccan empires for centries , on the other side the enormous ottoman war machine in the Est was threathning moroccan independance . The saadi didnt ally themselves with spain but with portugal and were crushed in the battle of the three kings by the ottoman backed branch if the saadis

    • @brrrrrtenjoyer
      @brrrrrtenjoyer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lotr quote?

  • @turskaimperial8534
    @turskaimperial8534 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Great Stuff!

  • @diogoregadas3949
    @diogoregadas3949 4 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    Shame that the great naval Battle of Diu, between the Portuguese and the Ottomans, wasn't even mentioned in this video. It would be awesome to see it covered in this channel one day.

    • @ricardogomes2576
      @ricardogomes2576 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      They consider it to be sign of power of the Ottomans when in 1654 we lost the battle of Aceh in the other end of the world, however when a country with less than 1.5 million people like us created forts under their noses in Ormuz, Muscate, Socotra Island is considered irrelevant xD. Yet they didnt ever built forts in any atlantic island anytime nor in the western coast of Africa whatsoever.

    • @swaminathanbalakrishnan5182
      @swaminathanbalakrishnan5182 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      K&G said they would do ottoman-portuguese wars sometime later.

    • @finesse.4636
      @finesse.4636 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They should cover when madeira was pillaged by the ottomans and the entire population was taken in slavery

  • @ScienceMessiah
    @ScienceMessiah 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Excellent choice of background music.
    I see there are people with insider k knowledge on the OE.
    Thanks and keep up the good work!

  • @MrKangdon
    @MrKangdon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +251

    This feels tautological. The reason for the Iberian interest in the Americas was the Ottoman conquests in the East (which blocked access to the Indian ocean). How could the Ottomans be motivated to head West across the Atlantic if the motivation to do so was to arrive where they already were?

    • @jonathanlondon4265
      @jonathanlondon4265 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I think the debate was more, why didn't they at least attempt a smaller less expensive incursion into the new world and the reason was because it wasn't sustainable. They either went through Spain&Portugals backyard or they sailed all the way around Africa. As the video mentioned they also were experiencing a great many growing pains due to their expansion into Europe and Africa.

    • @Coupal1
      @Coupal1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Exactly. They had discovered the world was round and they thought they could get to India by going around in the opposite direction and would arrive at the same place.

    • @jonathanlondon4265
      @jonathanlondon4265 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@adrianalainez8499 They're separate continents. Saying they're the same continent is like saying Europe and Asia are the same continent.

    • @jonathanlondon4265
      @jonathanlondon4265 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@adrianalainez8499 lol k

    • @wildfire9280
      @wildfire9280 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jonathanlondon4265 Depends on what country you're in.
      Some recognize 4, others 8. Some have the Americas as one, or Eurasia as one, and others don't. Some (cough) don't even recognize Oceania.

  • @peterhunt135
    @peterhunt135 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is by far the most eloquent historical and economics description of the monumental historical events in Europe and the Middle East in the 16th Century. Thank you.

  • @strawberryshortcake4342
    @strawberryshortcake4342 4 ปีที่แล้ว +106

    The Ottomans were fat and happy with their existing trade routes. They didn’t have any need to peruse alternate routes to Asia. Western Europe was hungry and had reasons to seek alternate trade routes.

    • @diegonatan6301
      @diegonatan6301 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Another reason was that they couldn't even expel the Portuguese from India, if they wanted they couldn't even do that they wouldn't be able to do something against Spain and Portugal in the New World.

    • @JasonDoe1000
      @JasonDoe1000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @Ibrahim Somali They expelled the Portugese from encroaching further but they didn't manage to drive the portugese off from their trade routes and didn't break portugese naval supremacy

    • @Matrix_985
      @Matrix_985 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      They were content trading with the indians in the east. But the golds and silvers from the americas slowly strangled the ottoman economy (due to inflation) which would eventually lead to their decline.

    • @strawberryshortcake4342
      @strawberryshortcake4342 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Leo Scarpe The people of Hungary recall this differently.

    • @strawberryshortcake4342
      @strawberryshortcake4342 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Leo Scarpe I only claim to speak on behalf of the people Hungarian people who spoke to me on the issue. I’m quite sure the people of Turkey see it differently. The victors usually do recall things differ fly than the victims.

  • @familytreenutshistorygenealogy
    @familytreenutshistorygenealogy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is the way we make history videos too, short & sweet! We love this channel!

  • @shahranhussain6037
    @shahranhussain6037 4 ปีที่แล้ว +507

    i love how y'all used the ottoman national anthems in the background

    • @boratokel9301
      @boratokel9301 4 ปีที่แล้ว +94

      That was not a national anthem, it’s a 19th century song titled “Üsküdara gideriken” (or “Katibim”). Ottomans did not have a national anthem as it wasn’t an empire based on nationalism. The concept of “national anthem” is very new in history.

    • @MrHL5
      @MrHL5 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@boratokel9301 ottomans had anthem. check "mecidiye marşı"

    • @boratokel9301
      @boratokel9301 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      MrHL5 No, “Mecidiye Marşı” is not a national anthem. It is, as in the name, a “marş”. Ottoman Empire was, as in the name, an (dynastic) empire, not a national entity, hence no national anthem. There are many “marş” pieces but regardless of their popularity at the time none of them was an official “national anthem”.

    • @Tiago-rz2hr
      @Tiago-rz2hr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      He use a civ VI music too. Arabia medieval theme, in the end

    • @bluestar4324
      @bluestar4324 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@campbelldutch75 Jesus, peace be upon hım, is not the god. He is the messenger and the light to humankind sent by God, before Muhammed, peace be upon him. They both say the same thing. Love, forgive, don't kill, don't steal, basically don't be a jerk is the message. And you know what? You are being a jerk!

  • @fatihk1194
    @fatihk1194 4 ปีที่แล้ว +282

    As a Turkish guy myself I am curious about this subject. There are some theories about it. First Ottomans were a land Empire beacuse of their Central asian steppe origins. Seafaring traditions started by first Turkish admiral Çaka Bey but not continued after his murder by Seljuk Sultan. After that Barbarossa made Ottomans rulers of the Mediterrenean and built a strong navy but failed to persuade the İbrahim Pasha to sailing to the New world. Also the Janisseries were influential on Ottomans war policy and they insisted on conquering the Hungary and Vienna. But most importantly Ottomans had trade routes from İndia and China to İstanbul. They think it is too little to gain with going to such faraway lands. And it was not easy because of Spanish naval force on Gibraltar and Mediterrenean. Lastly Ottomans failed in İndian Ocean campains in Suleiman the Magnificents time beceause their ships were Kadırga not Galleons suited for voyaging the oceans. If you have any other ideas please let me now🙂

    • @patrickblanchette4337
      @patrickblanchette4337 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Let's be honest, they had they're hands full colonizing Egypt, Eastern Europe, and the Arabian Peninsula as well as being imperialistic in India, Indonesia, & Morocco. England, France, Spain, etc. didn't have their hands quite as full in the old world before they started their own efforts in colonialism & imperialism in The New World & Africa.
      I say this empire to former empire of course; I'm fully aware of the USA's history of colonialism, imperialism, and its current neo-imperialist (hopefully future as well (What can I say, I bleed red, white, and blue & I'm not ready to had everything over to China yet.).) tendencies.

    • @muhammetemindincer9577
      @muhammetemindincer9577 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      @@patrickblanchette4337
      Dude what Ottoman's did wasn't colonising.
      Colonising equals to exploiting but Ottoman Empire clearly never exploited.
      For example taxes from Balkans they took were lower than the money they invested to there.
      Their ideology was spreading islam.
      So they only conquered but no exploiting.
      Also this is one of the reasons of not going that far.
      Not only because america is far but also because in the lands they are governing people weren't asimilated or so...
      So it was difficult to rule.
      While they were challenging hard with those problems no opportunity was left for other huge issues.

    • @patrickblanchette4337
      @patrickblanchette4337 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      jason mcallister Who are you insulting? Did you mean to post this reply in another comment thread?

    • @patrickblanchette4337
      @patrickblanchette4337 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Muhammet Emin DİNÇER Would you say that expanding into the Balkans was the Ottoman’s version of Manifest Destiny? I mean, I could also say that America clearly wanted to spread freedom in South America, Iraq, and Vietnam, but regardless of whether that’s true or not, at the end of the day, we intervened in those places for our own benefits first and foremost (Economically, politically, religious, etc.). It’s what all empires do; it doesn’t make those nations mustache-twirling supervillains; just very human. I’m also not trying to knock the Ottomans down a peg; they were an interesting and cool empire (plus they invented military bands!🎶). I’m just saying that all empires expand to benefit themselves.

    • @muhammetemindincer9577
      @muhammetemindincer9577 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@patrickblanchette4337 ofcourse there will be benefit from expanding the borders.
      But can you say that USA made more investment (i mean for flourishing the country) than the money they got feom Iraq?
      The archieves say that Ottoman invested for flourishing Balkans more than the revenue from those countries.
      What do you understand from this?
      More, when British, Spanish or the others invaded america there was a systematic slaughters against natives.
      Can you show an evidence that Ottoman did any systematic slaughter against Balkans and others? Let me say: Never!
      We know this from archieves and also from the demografik structure of the post Ottoman countries and their languages.
      They are like never ruled by ottomans.
      These show us that those people lived the same way in Ottoman rule as before.

  • @generalindex9906
    @generalindex9906 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Really glad you mentioned Peter Frankopan's book. It is the most intricate, detailed piece of historical document/book I have read so far. It's almost comically detailed and he manages to set the full picture through extensive, but very intriguing descriptions. The author covers not only the immediate geographical regions of the the silk road, far from it, it is merely used symbolic and as an anchor point, the book ventures through internal politics, trade over the oceans, warfare, aristocratic attitudes, quotes on internal and foreign affairs and so much more. It is a book that covers the linking dots more or less all over the world.
    Thank you for your time :)

  • @CMDPromptify
    @CMDPromptify 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Many years ago during my first undergraduate polisci class, this was one of my biggest WTF questions.
    I appreciate your channel!!!

  • @user-mv6yv9ec1b
    @user-mv6yv9ec1b 4 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    The reason is a little something called the "straits of Gibraltar" :D
    Neither the Spanish nor the Moroccans would let them pass

    • @insideoutsideupsidedown2218
      @insideoutsideupsidedown2218 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      That is it, all in a nutshell.

    • @Val-ng2um
      @Val-ng2um 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Except Morrocans would let them pass considering that Ottomans are the Caliph and if thats not enough They are littearly neighboors so brute force is always an option

    • @denzelsmashsymptom4264
      @denzelsmashsymptom4264 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@Val-ng2um The Moroccans would never let them pass ! The Turks tried to take over twice ... the north Africans also had quite a presence near Gibraltar constantly harassing Spain and Portugal but hated the Turks more for they saw their attack as a betrayal to the trust they put into them being both Muslims and all (read about it really fun subject)

    • @insideoutsideupsidedown2218
      @insideoutsideupsidedown2218 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@denzelsmashsymptom4264 quite. The Morrocans were almost enemies of the Turks. They were more like rivals with the Spaniards and the Portuguese.

    • @hasancosar9781
      @hasancosar9781 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      well they freaquently passed the strait. They just did it for raiding Christian lands.

  • @richraichu4068
    @richraichu4068 4 ปีที่แล้ว +174

    History matters and Especially James Bizzanet would be outraged that kings and generals did a video on the same topic they did a video on quite a while ago

    • @fakechloe207
      @fakechloe207 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      I think SPINNING THREE PLATES is the one you should fear.

    • @brrrrrtenjoyer
      @brrrrrtenjoyer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      What a man of culture

    • @TurquazCannabiz
      @TurquazCannabiz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Party boyko

    • @dday881
      @dday881 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Lol, compared to most communities on TH-cam, the history/grand strategy game community is pretty endearing and actually pleasant.

    • @aguerrero
      @aguerrero 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      We are running out of topics in this network of history-related creators. I do not know how many versions of Caesar's sieges or Byzantine-Sassanid tribulations I have already watched.

  • @Torus2112
    @Torus2112 4 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    So the only question that remains is, why didn't the Ottomans colonize Australia?

    • @jax2728
      @jax2728 4 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      The emus man... the fucking emus.
      The scourge of mankind

    • @davidturner7590
      @davidturner7590 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      And the military and musical prowess of Rolf Harris were important too.

    • @Deniz1923
      @Deniz1923 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jax2728 They landed janissaries, saw the emus, and noped the fuck outta there haha I like this version :)

    • @ennui9745
      @ennui9745 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because their enemy, the Mamluks, got there first.

  • @Randinoish
    @Randinoish 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for teaching everybody man!!! It is appreciated!!!

  • @icemanchambers1207
    @icemanchambers1207 4 ปีที่แล้ว +357

    Fun Fact, Jack Sparrow is inspired by the Ottoman Admiral Jack Ward (later Yusuf Reis). :)
    Also there are Ottomans in few scenes in the Movie.

    • @Cyan_Nightingale
      @Cyan_Nightingale 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Not true

    • @Cyan_Nightingale
      @Cyan_Nightingale 4 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      Jack Sparrow is inspired by various pirates in Caribbean including the infamous & flamboyant Jack Rackham a.k.a. "Calico Jack". While his characterizations and mannerism are inspired by Keith Richards from rock band Rolling Stones and Pepé Le Pew from cartoon Looney Tunes.
      Jack Ward was only operating in Tunis or Mediterranean Sea, which clearly has different environment and warfare style than the Caribbean.

    • @Cyan_Nightingale
      @Cyan_Nightingale 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      And some "foreign" looking pirate crews in Jack Sparrow's fleet can be interpreted as Indians. We can also see African and Asian-looking crews in some scenes.

    • @icemanchambers1207
      @icemanchambers1207 4 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      @@Cyan_Nightingale What I have said is %100 true. Muslim North Africans were calling Jack Ward "Asfur" which translates to "Sparrow". Jack Sparrow. 😉 because he was obsessed with Sparrows and he had so many pets. Research is good mate.

    • @icemanchambers1207
      @icemanchambers1207 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      @@Cyan_Nightingale Its inspired by Jack Ward, but of course in Carribean Style and Culture. HE CARRIES A CRESCENT MOON AND STAR EAR RING, which is also a symbol of Islam and that time the Ottoman Empire. 😉😊

  • @seriesmovies4195
    @seriesmovies4195 4 ปีที่แล้ว +715

    Imagine Latino’s but they speak Turkish and have Turkish names 😂

    • @ottomanmapper3502
      @ottomanmapper3502 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      Wow

    • @Terekeme1
      @Terekeme1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +208

      ottomans didnt force other nations to change their language or religion so it would still stay gonzalez lol

    • @anvar1618
      @anvar1618 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂😂😂

    • @Terekeme1
      @Terekeme1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Sohrab The Socialist yea might be but first spanish colonized there thats why i said that .

    • @Terekeme1
      @Terekeme1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +112

      Alexandros Var blood tax ? they needed soldiers and many christian families were happy that their kids will grow up in palaces . Lets talk in general . Look at the colonizations of england france and compare with ottomans you should be happy that u controlled by ottomans if you are still able to talk your language and practice your religion. I know you have butthurt you cant look from that perspective.

  • @trygveplaustrum4634
    @trygveplaustrum4634 4 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    "Why did the Ottomans never colonize the Americas?"
    Try shipping thousands of colonists, and their supplies, *through the Spanish-controlled Strait of Gibraltar.*

    • @BALLARDTWIN
      @BALLARDTWIN 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Through Egypt you mean and then through the bab al mandeb down the swahili coast to south Africa
      Colonize that and booms straight to southern region of the Americas (argentina, Uruguay, south chile)
      Expand north

    • @adrianbundy3249
      @adrianbundy3249 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or around Africa, or across the pacific :)

    • @JasonDoe1000
      @JasonDoe1000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@adrianbundy3249 ​ @Yuri Tarded Problem with those plans would be that all of these areas were already controlled by the Portugese Navy and it would have been easier for the ottomans to sail straight through the Strait of Gibraltar than to sail through the portugese armada

    • @adrianbundy3249
      @adrianbundy3249 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JasonDoe1000 It was a joke, I didn't think it was feasible for them. Hence the :) when agreeing with the disagreement with the Ottoman chances.
      But no, I do disagree with the thing being hardest with the other routes being having to go against the Portuguese, vs Gilbratar. No, they probably would have had to contend with both, in any eventuality. As it was, their issue was needing to upgrade to having a better navy, with better ships, which they didn't have. If they did, then they could confront them in either ocean, but then the biggest factor would have been the distance and logistics of such voyages to places like the new world, via the African or Indian ocean channels, where they simply weren't there at that time. And needing an entirely new class of boats from their navy to be able to do it. If they could get through the straights, it at least would have been a LITTLE more economical. That is taking the military angle out of it; but as it was, it simply wasn't feasible.

    • @BALLARDTWIN
      @BALLARDTWIN 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JasonDoe1000 ottomans were already at war with the portuguese in the horn of africa
      There lack of care for expanding is what made suleiman give up the war effort
      Ironically they defeated the portuguese and even took back the coastal cities of pate, lamu and Mombasa
      There were alot of muslims in the horn of Africa and swahili coast
      Yet there lack of care for expanding into the region is their problem
      Hey even helped somalis defeat and take over 3/4 of ethiopian highlands aswell as defeat the Portuguese
      If they wanted to that route would have been possible for them
      Portugal swiftly took back the swahili coast after sending for reinforcements from india

  • @omercelebi9141
    @omercelebi9141 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love your videos

  • @yagizkart1
    @yagizkart1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    i find kings and generals to be the best unbiased & thorough source of information on ottoman history, a subject so delicate and complicated many history enthusiasts on this platform have failed while attempting to explain.

  • @zubersingh
    @zubersingh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Actually the ottomans did try venture into the new world, and we're in fact aided by a renegade contingent of Maltese hospitaller knights and Inca prisoners. They were commanded by Sahin 'the falcon' to stop the secret society known as the 'circle of ossus' and successfully defeated them by destroying the fountain of youth. There's a great interactive documentary about it called 'Age of Empires III'

    • @blakeluccason9971
      @blakeluccason9971 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was just play that ... i forgot about that campaign

    • @crusadershistory8967
      @crusadershistory8967 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not colombus found the America land ITS the Muslim 5 century before colombus

    • @gursimarsingh5505
      @gursimarsingh5505 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Aoe 3 wars of liberty is also awesome

    • @zubersingh
      @zubersingh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@gursimarsingh5505 agreed. I hope they add the Sikh confederacy

    • @gursimarsingh5505
      @gursimarsingh5505 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zubersingh yes. I also hope. A modder has already made sikh confederacy but it is a mod that we have to install. I hope they do some changes and add the mod( mod means modification) in aoe3 wars of liberty.

  • @rhor1882
    @rhor1882 4 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    The thumbnail makes it kind of look like they are urinating on a map of the world...no just me?

  • @awesh1986
    @awesh1986 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Too good. Very clear and good explanation. I love history and especially your videos they are beautifully designed and just too interesting.

  • @denniscleary7580
    @denniscleary7580 4 ปีที่แล้ว +127

    I’m so early the Northman had just arrived in Vineland

    • @TurquazCannabiz
      @TurquazCannabiz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I’m so early Istanbul is still called Constantinople

    • @btsnake
      @btsnake 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TurquazCannabiz I'm so early Constantinople is still called Byzantium

    • @revis0nedrelived830
      @revis0nedrelived830 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@btsnake Byzantium is the term called by the HRE. Eastern Roman Empire is the correct naming.

    • @masayukitachibana2756
      @masayukitachibana2756 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Basil Syed I am so early, I was with the founder of Byzantium colonist

  • @amernoori4157
    @amernoori4157 4 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    I love ceddin deden in the background

    • @enesakhan4032
      @enesakhan4032 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      its actually "Üsküdar'a gider iken" ..not "ceddin deden" :)

    • @muratozdemir7729
      @muratozdemir7729 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @enes akhan No, it is ceddin deden mostly...

    • @enesakhan4032
      @enesakhan4032 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@muratozdemir7729 ohh i thought he meant the last part

    • @anlyuksel2194
      @anlyuksel2194 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pink Lemonade the song is only 100 years old...

    • @pinklemonade7341
      @pinklemonade7341 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@anlyuksel2194 Turks ruled Arabs for more than 1000 years. Turkiye 💪🏼

  • @TubeHeader
    @TubeHeader 4 ปีที่แล้ว +137

    Generally it's the countries with lots of wealth but little land area who colonise across oceans, the Greek cities, England Venice and Portugal are good examples

    • @jonathanlondon4265
      @jonathanlondon4265 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I wouldn't really classify the 3 great colonizer nations as little lands area... Spain, France and England were all much larger than say.. Florence, Venice or Genoa. I think a much more important attribute was stability and ease of access to the Atlantic ocean.

    • @xXxSkyViperxXx
      @xXxSkyViperxXx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@jonathanlondon4265 european countries in europe are actually quite small compared to many other countries we have these days

    • @jonathanlondon4265
      @jonathanlondon4265 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@xXxSkyViperxXx They're not quite small... maybe if compared to like Russia or the USA or China. If we're going off population, Germany, the UK, France and Italy are the 19th, 21st, 22nd and 23rd highest population countries respectively. Regardless, modern nation states in Africa and South America are only the size they are due to the interference of the colonizers as they organized territory into easier managed sections.

    • @xXxSkyViperxXx
      @xXxSkyViperxXx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@jonathanlondon4265 there you have it, u said it. big population, little land, of course theyll go out colonizing

    • @jonathanlondon4265
      @jonathanlondon4265 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@xXxSkyViperxXx ???? They went out colonizing because they had direct access to the Atlantic ocean. It had nothing to do with overall population.

  • @rogersledz6793
    @rogersledz6793 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for uploading this video. It is helping me get through the pandemic!

  • @phillipgathright8001
    @phillipgathright8001 4 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    What an alternate history would be if the Ottoman Empire managed to establish a Muslim state in the Americas.

    • @Liquid_sa
      @Liquid_sa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      That's a good point, economically they will be over powered...
      And the native American Indian would live and be Muslims, or stay with there religion.
      A lot would happen...

    • @jackwyatt3854
      @jackwyatt3854 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      That would be bad

    • @MiguelSanchezDelVillar
      @MiguelSanchezDelVillar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@YassuYasen well, they fought a battle to conquer Spain, and another with the french but they lost the last one, probably they would have tried to conquer all the territory and the convert the locals to the Islam, like in Spain

    • @worried9755
      @worried9755 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why war and bother, her children will surrender america few centuries down the age

    • @MiguelSanchezDelVillar
      @MiguelSanchezDelVillar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@YassuYasen a lot of empires with an official religion extended their religion with conquer, the roman empire, the spanish empire, the ottoman empire, etc...
      That is very common, all what i said is based in history, you said that Islam would spread peacufully in a foreign land with allmost no contact with Islam before (like france and spain) but based in history that is not true, you need to chill a bit

  • @TheButter342
    @TheButter342 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    The maps in this episode are the best to date. I love maps to an unhealthy degree. I need help. I need map rehab. I’m a map addict. Who needs pornography when you have geography? Mmmm maps.

    • @yigithaninanms8016
      @yigithaninanms8016 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ahah exactly the same, looking at maps for hours and still desire to have and look at more more maps

    • @degenerals6127
      @degenerals6127 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me too

  • @Egregoros
    @Egregoros 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love this map design !

  • @kurtvongiese7615
    @kurtvongiese7615 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I like how Civ V and Civ Vi music are used

  • @TheTariqibnziyad
    @TheTariqibnziyad 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Short answer : they didn't need too, they were already so powerful and had their own inland empire.

    • @mikes7566
      @mikes7566 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I wouldn’t say “so powerful”. As described by K&G near the end of this video, their massive territory became their own folly aswell - as they continue to skirmish in the Hungarian and Persian border against their many enemies, aswell as the unending battles for control in the Meditterannean Sea. Once the Westerners bought so much gold from the New World, they created influx in Ottoman Empire thus limiting their projection of power until the day of Ottoman’s inevitable decline.

    • @mikes7566
      @mikes7566 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ruthieal true. That’s how Rome fell.

    • @RaferJeffersonIII
      @RaferJeffersonIII 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Most of that empire was sand dunes though

    • @hiimetai7547
      @hiimetai7547 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RaferJeffersonIII 200,000,000 population in modern times, not to mention many civilaszitions in world history in north africa, I wouldn't call it "just sand dunes"

    • @RaferJeffersonIII
      @RaferJeffersonIII 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      HiImEtai didnt contribute anything to the world. Other than sex slavery.
      Sand dunes, and the Quran. That’s pretty much it.
      Chopping off male slaves genitals.
      Trafficking women from the caucus.
      Horrifically barbaric society.

  • @wanosamurai1344
    @wanosamurai1344 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Ottomans are already to OP, not giving them colonialism is a balanced nerf

    • @user-wq9mw2xz3j
      @user-wq9mw2xz3j 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes you were trying to joke, but do you even realize what an empire is? It's just a country colonizing others

    • @kamilhd2280
      @kamilhd2280 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      [;' Ottoman Empire didnt colonise. Colonisation is taking over a land and replacing natives with your people. Ottoman Empire didn’t do this.

    • @SoulOfSages
      @SoulOfSages 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@user-wq9mw2xz3j True mate, but partially. Can you find me just one Country that speaks Turkey Turkish other than Turkey today ? Unlike e.g France, Spain, Portugal or Britain , Ottomans were nicer to the other Cultures.

    • @zeonmx
      @zeonmx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kamilhd2280
      I guess you people never heard of what happened to Constantinople. Or is it normal for Turkey to just whitewash the shit out of their own history?

    • @shembajr
      @shembajr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@zeonmx What happended to Constantinople? It got taken and over time the turkish population grew, I wonder why, maybe because the ottomans were turkish based empire?

  • @Red-kc2wow2
    @Red-kc2wow2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Great video, I have just one correction to do. Brazil was discovered by Pedro Alvares Cabral instead Columbus

  • @thefisherking78
    @thefisherking78 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love it. Never would have thought to ask this question.

  • @monad5140
    @monad5140 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is so fascinating. In school we are given the impression of a sequestered ancient world with individual bubbles that were only opened, or "discovered" by European explorers. But to see how interconnected everything was so early on gives a much better view.

    • @monad5140
      @monad5140 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @İnsan I'm not European, I'm from Argentina. It's just what we were taught, no way around it. In China they teach a very China centric history too, it's just natural for each country to do.

  • @pickledbushman
    @pickledbushman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +588

    Nobody:
    Kings and Generals: Why the Aztecs never conquered Sub Sahara Africa.

    • @empireofsealand1865
      @empireofsealand1865 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      pickledbushman actually this is a big question (f*** Selim the second)

    • @RezaPouyaSenDev
      @RezaPouyaSenDev 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      look Pan Turks are part of main sponsers of K&Gs

    • @empireofsealand1865
      @empireofsealand1865 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Reza Pouya lol

    • @wildfire9280
      @wildfire9280 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      *Why the Aztecs never conquered Sub Saharan Africa?

    • @aqeeladaiyanzeva2731
      @aqeeladaiyanzeva2731 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      *reconquered

  • @simenonhonore
    @simenonhonore 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Fascinating - thanks.

  • @mudassirbaig21
    @mudassirbaig21 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good research and narration buddy !

  • @MrKakau10
    @MrKakau10 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Battle of Diu: victory of the Portuguese naval, heralded the end of the old trading giants and led to centuries of European naval and trade dominance, that shaped the modern world.

    • @denzelsmashsymptom4264
      @denzelsmashsymptom4264 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Everything has an End my friend, would not be surprised to see those Arabs kicking back in some centuries from now !
      That is why we should never underestimate an enemy even during their time of despair ...

    • @gordusmaximus4990
      @gordusmaximus4990 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@denzelsmashsymptom4264 Turks arent Arabs though. They actually ruled the arabs.
      But true. But at this age, it was the Portuguese and the Spanish who opened alternatives and the gates for the European domination of the world. The portuguese are so underrated at this period, they had huge wins so far away from home against Asians and even Europeans, in a battle they even defeated Turkish, Venician and Indian forces.

    • @bayutimurchannel5848
      @bayutimurchannel5848 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      but they were driven out of the Red Sea and Aden

    • @Maia_Cyclist
      @Maia_Cyclist 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That battle was made by an angry father that wanted to avenge the son death, ignored the Portuguese king orders

    • @paulom8804
      @paulom8804 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @عبد الرحمان بن محمد العامري nice cherry picking on wikipedia, mate

  • @jordanhe7509
    @jordanhe7509 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Will the channel cover the battle of Diu in 1509 one day? I heard it was as consequential to the Indian Ocean as Trafalgar was.

    • @manuellopes6913
      @manuellopes6913 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It was probably even more consequential than trafalgar. I mean diu happened roughly 3 centuries prior to trafalgar so of course the battle of diu had the "time" to have a hingher influence in history so right there it's hard to judge importance. But that aside both battles impacts boil down to:
      - DIU: caused the effective end of the era of muslim and indian domination of the trade routes of the indic ocean, and introduced new trade routes that led to the displacement of wealth from the arabs to the portuguese and later other colonial powers (the europeans would go on to control the indic ocean for roughly, the next 4 centuries). One example of the impact of this battle is the mamluks that ended up loosing one of their main sources of wealth and ended up becoming easier prey for the ottomans since now they could not finance the stunning armies of old, for all we now the mamlucks might well have won the war with ottomans if not for this battle.
      -TRAFALGAR: forced napoleon to keep itself to the european continent without a proper navy to not only invade Britain but also keep the british navy from aiding napoleons enemies. Although not the most crucial, this was one of events that led to the fall of napoleon. This batte also heavily contributed to the rise of the british navy to the point it was the most powerful navy in the world for roughly a century.

    • @zecanas1
      @zecanas1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The battle of diu was one of the most important and consequetial battles in the world. It flipped everything. It ended the reign of the muslim world, consolidated the first global empire, allowed europeans to frerly rule the waves and go to america, asia. This even had consequences on the russian alternative of silk road in the north.

    • @MrPauloteixeira21
      @MrPauloteixeira21 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Battle of Diu is among the 10 most important battles of humanity. She practically founded the global Portuguese empire. Even better, one motivation was the desire for revenge of Dom Francisco De Almeida, the Viceroy, for the death of his son.

  • @lmao7177
    @lmao7177 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I don't exactly know why, but every videos about the Ottomans with these traditional like music and things seems and sounds so calming.

  • @moorgen7759
    @moorgen7759 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very very good quality...congratulations for this job 👍🏼

  • @andres6868
    @andres6868 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    the question can be answered just by looking at a map: to have colonies in the Americas they needed to have access to the Atlantic Ocean and they didn't - specifically, they didn't control Gibraltar. Had Morocco been part of the Ottoman Empire, they would have a chance, but Morocco was independent

    • @varana
      @varana 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      But not trying harder to conquer Morocco after the initial setbacks is already part of the question. That the map in the Maghreb looked like it did, needs to be explained as well.

    • @andres6868
      @andres6868 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@varana The trade routes the Ottomans controlled in the Middle East and in Eastern Europe were profitable enough...to reach the Atlantic they needed to control the Western Mediterranean first and that meant costly battles with France and Spain

    • @ChromeMan04
      @ChromeMan04 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      There was no such thing as Morocco back then

    • @varana
      @varana 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andres6868 Exactly - my point was that "well, just look at a map, they didn't have access to the Atlantic, d'uh" is not a sufficient explanation. It also needs to be explained _why_ they did not have access to the Atlantic.

    • @ChromeMan04
      @ChromeMan04 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Mazing Morocco no I’m not stupid your country didn’t exist back then it was created by the French

  • @salahddinebensebane8429
    @salahddinebensebane8429 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Wait for Eu4 memes

  • @jiren-geek9757
    @jiren-geek9757 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    In fact the Iceland invasion was from small city known as Sale in Morocco the autonomous leader give 10% of wealth to the saadi sultan zidan

  • @kamrul6108
    @kamrul6108 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    love this channel from Bangladesh

  • @basitjaved1177
    @basitjaved1177 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Will you make series on The Peloponnesian War?

  • @alperenerol1852
    @alperenerol1852 4 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    Suleiman also ordered the execution of Piri Reis because of his incompetency against the Portuguese.

    • @Darthwgamer
      @Darthwgamer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Like the Empire against the rebellion in a sense

    • @goodluck2119
      @goodluck2119 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      It's no the best idea to fucking kill your only genius map maker

    • @afonsoferreira2652
      @afonsoferreira2652 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not their fault

    • @Darthwgamer
      @Darthwgamer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@goodluck2119 They probably thought that they could find another 1

    • @gordusmaximus4990
      @gordusmaximus4990 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Poor man, its like when Stalin excuted Palvov, despite he give warnings and wanted to move troops to the border. It wasnt his fault.
      Same thing, the Portuguese was simply superior at the sea at this period.

  • @DerDoctor-nc3db
    @DerDoctor-nc3db 4 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Why the ottomans didnt colonise, or "The Early History of the Portugese Empire"

    • @here_we_go_again2571
      @here_we_go_again2571 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Portugese and Spanish learned
      how to be extremely brutal when
      they began the Reconquista. That
      trait enabled them to build empires.

    • @here_we_go_again2571
      @here_we_go_again2571 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Gantz akira
      What do you call the conquest of the
      Byzantine and Persian empires, the
      conquest of northern Africa, the
      conquest of Hispania, the conquest
      of the Balkans?
      In each of the above cases, those
      who fought against or who did not
      cooperate with the Muslims -- i.e
      either convert or become second
      class citizens and double - taxed
      ("Dhimni") were murdered and enslaved.
      The resources of those territories were
      used by the ruling Muslims by and for
      the ruling Muslims.
      Here's a few (not all) of the battles:
      Rashidun Siege of Jerusalem (636-637 AD/CE)
      Rashidun Seige of Alexandria, Egypt (641 AD)
      Umayyad Conquest of Iberian Peninsula (711 -- 726 AD)
      [ *Christian Reconquista (711 -- 1492)* ]
      [ *Battle of Tours, France -- Charles Martel (732 AD)* ]
      Battle of Mohács -- Suleiman the Magnificent. (1526)
      [ *Seige of Vienna -- Ferdinand 1st, Holy Roman Emperor (1529)* ]
      [ *Battle of Vienna -- Christian Coalltion[1] (1683)* ]
      ____________________________________________________
      1.) Christian Coallition (1683)
      *Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth* -- King John III Sobieski
      ........ (Supreme Commander of the Christian Coalition Army)
      *Holy Roman Empire* -- Emperor Joseph 1st
      ...... Austria
      ...... Bavaria
      ...... Bohemia Bohemian Crown
      ...... Franconia
      ...... Saxony
      ...... Swabia
      *Hapsburg Hungary* -- Leopold 1st
      *Wallachia* (secretly allied) -- Prince Șerban Cantacuzino
      ...... Wallachians didn't like the Ottoman Turks. Their most
      ...... famous king was Vlad III of Wallachia (also known as
      ...... Vlad the Impaler), who ruled from 1448 -- 1477.
      ...... Unfortunately for Wallachia (Later part of modern
      ...... Romania) and its citizens; the 1400's were a time
      ...... when the Saxons wanted to trade with the Ottoman
      ...... empire; so any dreams of independence were
      ...... crushed from both the Saxons (from the northwest)
      ...... and by the Ottomans (from the southeast)

    • @lxportugal9343
      @lxportugal9343 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      "as am aware i cant name one muslim ruler/nation that colonized another nation and used them as slaves. "
      HAHAHAHA, you guys are so funny

  • @--Paws--
    @--Paws-- 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    2:30 The anime and manga "Altair: A Record of Battles" (Shoukoku no Altair) made many references about this. The protagonist (who is a pasha, a general, of the Turkiye Stratocracy) made friends with the Doce of Venice (Venedik).
    The manga and anime was roughly based on the Ottoman Empire (Mehmed II), its relationship with other countries and its competition with the Holy Roman Empire (or Balt-Rhein Empire).

    • @Kermit1040-T
      @Kermit1040-T 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      wtf? japan is crazy these days

    • @ennui9745
      @ennui9745 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Kermit1040-T Try reading it :)

  • @jquick8214
    @jquick8214 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    9:08 ottomans in iceland sounds a lot more like eu4 than real history. Learn something new everyday

    • @DBT1007
      @DBT1007 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Do you know that Ottoman also a good ally to Japan and that's the reason Islam spread in Japan now?
      Do you know Javanese (people of Java Island in Indonesia) already can reach the Madagascar and even the Western Africa in long long time ago with just a wooden ship that called as JONG ??
      That's why there are some Javanese and Javanese descendants in Madagascar right now.
      Reality sometimes far beyond your mind and sometimes actually more simple than you think.

    • @anis8879
      @anis8879 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@bard001
      And Algiers.

    • @jiren-geek9757
      @jiren-geek9757 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It was from small city known as Sale in Morocco the governor give 10% of the wealth to the saadi sultan zidan

    • @hakonarnar6508
      @hakonarnar6508 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That happened in vestmanneyjar and they slaughtered and raped many shut up

    • @hakonarnar6508
      @hakonarnar6508 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Deinis de Sousa the viking were done then

  • @Loyal94
    @Loyal94 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Very nice animations and music so well used, that I enjoyed every minute of the documentary. You guys are getting better and better with every video. It is very nice to experience this development, while learning so much in the meantime. Keep up the astonishingly great work, K&G.

  • @Eisenhower1956
    @Eisenhower1956 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video, that shows the importance of straits control which remains priority for superpowers to our modern day

  • @ashina2146
    @ashina2146 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    "Sahin the Falcon thinks that the Ottomans are the relic of the past"

    • @tahircamalanoglu
      @tahircamalanoglu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Im not frank Im Scottish. 😢

    • @tahircamalanoglu
      @tahircamalanoglu 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@comradekenobi6908 aoe3

    • @serenemountain6769
      @serenemountain6769 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Ottomans still exist today, they simply change their brand to Turks but the legacy lives on!

  • @muhamadasyraf5067
    @muhamadasyraf5067 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    That true about Ottoman Empire, because there was a lot of Turkish and Persian in Malacca Empire who work as soldier and official in palace.

    • @ochaarul786
      @ochaarul786 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ada juga kampung turki di aceh

    • @FriendlyCroock
      @FriendlyCroock 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      lol This video is not entirely true though.
      It's true that the ottoman turks never tried to conquer america but the ottoman north africans did!
      From what I know the north african states of the ottoman empire gained independence from turks to start their own little empire.
      Not all the ottomans were turks though. After the turkish invasion of albania we also had the ottoman albanians who were ethnically albanians same as the ottoman north africans were ethnically algerians, tunisians, even libyans if I'm not mistaken.

    • @FriendlyCroock
      @FriendlyCroock 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's interesting that this guy mentioned the invasion of the coasts of iceland at 9:08 but he doesn't mention who the invaders were.
      Those invaders also attacked north american ships in the atlantic if I'm not mistaken which triggered north america into a war against the ottomans of north africa.

    • @FriendlyCroock
      @FriendlyCroock 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Vienna But they weren't turks my man.
      Even icelanders blame the turks. They have a name for this event "the turkish abductions" same as eastern europeans blame turks for the crimes of the steppe empires.

    • @FriendlyCroock
      @FriendlyCroock 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Vienna
      The ottomans of north africa were some of the most bad S empires in history.
      With a small military they managed to scare the big powerful french into paying them in resources for years. They were doing what the british were doing but with a much smaller military. And they did. The french paid north africans in gold and silver for years. It's like the big bully taking the lunch money from a little kid except in this case it's the other way around because the north frican ottoman navy and their military were the small ones and the french were the big powerful ones.

  • @thedoruk6324
    @thedoruk6324 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Ottomans however did (try) to colonize and integrate Indonesia - There was a state called *Aceh* its constructed and supported by the Ottomans - if they advanced Ottomans May be arrive to Australia and maybe even new zealand

    • @lanellevydiantheofillus4531
      @lanellevydiantheofillus4531 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      really? wow thats quite interesting can you explain more? im quite intrigued

    • @umaransari9765
      @umaransari9765 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Before venturing towards Australia, they might had to fight neighbouring Buddhist and Hindu states and maybe even Ming China

    • @احمد-و8غ1ب
      @احمد-و8غ1ب 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      They have sumtra island but i think they haven’t have a good navy after lapento and the holy league was a big problem

    • @thedoruk6324
      @thedoruk6324 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@lanellevydiantheofillus4531 Look at the development of [Aceh Sultanate] The Ottomans actually reached the Indonesia throughtly

    • @TheSamuraijim87
      @TheSamuraijim87 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      No, the Ottomans had a diplomatic mission there, and accepted the vassalage of the Sultanate of Aceh, by accepting Aceh's recognition of the Ottomans as Caliph. But Aceh already existed. It was not founded by the Ottomans. There was no Turkish colonization.

  • @philosophystudioAU
    @philosophystudioAU 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    A very thoughtful and well done video.

  • @nicholasfasano7874
    @nicholasfasano7874 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The history of some of those maps is pretty crazy. The made them from some unknown ancient sources and referenced antarctica correctly without it having been officially discovered until the 1800's

    • @Rhysman30
      @Rhysman30 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah! I had seen somewhere the Byzantines (or early Ottomans, can't remember which one) had actually followed Africa south and just kept going. They brought back sweet maps. Seeing all the ice were like, "Yup, thats the bottom"

  • @douglasgabriel5228
    @douglasgabriel5228 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Curious, you didn't translate "João" for "John" but did translate "Henry" from "Henrique"
    Funny

    • @GabrielSoares-ju9yq
      @GabrielSoares-ju9yq 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Ted Hubert Pagnanawon Crusio in Brasil we do pronounce the whole word in Henrique. Not only that but the -que has a strong tone (?) on it

    • @redgokudera
      @redgokudera 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Ted Hubert Pagnanawon Crusio We need to find a galician to confirm how they speak "Henrique". If the q is silent for them, then you have a point. If it is not, I call bs XD

  • @ricardogomes2576
    @ricardogomes2576 4 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    To consider the Ottomans a match to the Portuguese in 1654, when after 80 years of Spanish rule, a costly restauration war against Castille, attacked by almost every other european competitors in the Atlantic and so on, the Portuguese were a shadow of their former selves is quite normal. Of course that the Ottoman juggernaut was supposed to be stronger then a small and peripheral European Nation, when you look at the placing where their men, navy and power comes from in terms of comparison with the Portuguese. What is surprising is how a small country as Portugal, with low manpower and natural resources, coming from the other side of the planet absolutely vaporizes a coalition of relevant forces in the Indian Ocean only 10 years after arriving there, such as the Battle of Diu. Leaving marks that are felt nowadays like avoiding Ethiopia becoming fully muslim, establishing forts in places that even today are hellholes like Ormuz and the Horn of Africa. There was laid the foundation for all the maritime powers to come to rule the ocean through choke points and well placed forts and bases.
    Being a successfull and impressive land empire is one thing, to have a blue water navy and sail across the globe through stars and wind is a whole different game technologically speaking. Some chose not to invest in it like the Ottomans or the Chinese after Zheng He, others had not any other alternative like the Portuguese.

    • @bigtuga4ever
      @bigtuga4ever 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Eles são Grandes, Agente é ruim.

    • @RedbadvanRijn-ft3vv
      @RedbadvanRijn-ft3vv 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      We Dutch did it some later.
      Thats was also the tiny start,of industrialization.
      The windmils.

    • @ricardogomes2576
      @ricardogomes2576 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@RedbadvanRijn-ft3vv We had good relations with you guys, our monarchy was from Bourgogne, we always had a lot of commercial relations with Flandres, but then ours kings decided to expel the jews or force converse them and a lot of them went to the Netherlands, and with the Iberian Union we
      we got the Spanish enemies for free. Some people from The Netherlands like De Huurte family in the Açores were settling on our lands, and on Cabo Verde.

    • @RedbadvanRijn-ft3vv
      @RedbadvanRijn-ft3vv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@leoscarpe4199
      So tell us why the Ottomans genocide Armenians????
      There not,,,peacefull,,,there just as evil as the Nazi where.

    • @ricardogomes2576
      @ricardogomes2576 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It's funny to see the bias and propaganda that you are trying to venture here. But once u started this talk, I'll give my opinion. I'm jst finding it really funny.
      What I said and I repeat, the Ottomans were great in their place, but they were no match to Portugal in the High Seas. Of course that on land its different, probably Contantinople had more population than the whole of Portugal. The Ottomans couldn't even conquer Morocco, but Portugal helped Ethiopia to remain partialy Christian otherwise they would all be muslim by sword. Submit or die was the Ottoman rule as any other Christian, Hindu, Shinto, Buddhist or animalist empire.
      The fobia of Islam is not a fobia, we undertand you u for what u are. Same as us, just different religion. Islam has always historically tried to play itself as this underdog, as this religion and people who are friendly but when someone wakes up, they have a knife on their throat. What reality shows is that even in 2020 Islam can't separate politics from religion, they are the same! The same faces of the coin. I see where your thinking comes from, and I'm just sorry for you. As always throughout history, reality stumps on ideology.
      You try to put here Islam and the Ottomans as victims ahahahahaah. AGAIN AHAHAHAH. Ottomans were invaders in Anatolia, the same way as Islam coming from the Hejaz was invader to an Anatolia where Christian priests had been preaching for more than 700y (a lot of times converting by force and the sword also). So people changed religion just because the sun rose?? No more sand to the eyes please... You are not preaching to some illiterate village in the mountains of the HinduKush.
      Islam had problems with Europeans because Europeans were in Europe even before Osman was born and Islam existed. So what? We know Islam from heart and soul, the same way Islam knows Christianity. We are neighbours in geography and share historical roots. What is historically clear to anyone is that Islam only stops when its dealt with a Culture with Strong foundations and full force, these being the Europeans, the Hindus of India and the Han Chinese.
      Understand one thing at last. Europe is not the An Nafud. We are here for Milennia and will stand here for Milennia. About the Ottomans standing against terrorism? I can't believe what I'm reading. Europe has achieved human development unseen in history, way greater than anything Islamic world has given humanity, and the islamic golden age in the 1000s gave a lot. Of course that the European colonizers were oppressors, the same way as Sudanese islamists enslaved black africans and sold them way before we arrived there by sea. Your problem with Europeans is that you are our rivals, and because we arrived there first, avoided you to do so.
      Europe was able to control its religious radicals, and put them in their place. To have a secular rule, and separate state from and allow muslims to live among us. What did the muslims do? What are they doing in Germany and France nowadays, recruiting young people to fight in the Jihad, promoting Sharia among other stuff while the christians are persecuted in Syria, Turkey and every Muslim country? Your mask is falling apart everyday. We are secular and we are Europeans but bear in mind that when the time comes, our historical roots comes before the islamists we are receiving in our home. As Turkey as soon learnt, trying to roll over Greece but France with the backing of Europe, is a bit too big for u to stump on.
      Just ask the Sahel Africa how are muslims behaving or the northern Mozambique. Corrupt leaders are the same, islamic or christian they just follow the money.

  • @lemaro1977
    @lemaro1977 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very well made video!

  • @yellowlightingbolt
    @yellowlightingbolt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Than ending with the map on the table and the hand putting off the candle was great

  • @tiberiusclaudiuscaesar5238
    @tiberiusclaudiuscaesar5238 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    This can be neatly explained with 3 main arguments:
    1) The Ottomans are *already* surrounded by other powers and have their hands full trying to control what they *do* rule over. Controlling such a vast land empire with the logistics of the time was a herculean task alone and obviously is going to take an overwhelming precedence to any attempted conquest by sea of the newly discovered Americas. By contrast the European powers like Spain, Portugal, England and France are tiny land masses and a great deal easier to control. While the European powers also are at war with each other these appear like smaller border skirmishes to what the Ottomans are facing both within and around their vast land empire. Basically trying to conquer parts of the Americas is an obvious example of over-stretching the empire. Like this video also points out the Ottomans are already worried by the Portuguese incursions into India by sailing around Africa.
    2) Little to no impetus for conquering parts of the Americas. The Ottomans already control the trade routes from Asia to Europe and benefit greatly from the spice trade. The European Age of Discovery was in fact started by the need to find alternative trade routes to India thereby bypassing the Ottomans completely. The Europeans hence *had* a great impetus. At this time in history the Ottomans believe they're sitting on a never ending goldmine of trade and can always reap all the benefits from controlling it. Since the Europeans are still actively trading with them throughout this time it looks like "good business as usual" as far as the Ottomans are concerned.
    3. Contemporary ignorance of what the new continent had of value and the ever increasing part it would play in the coming centuries. The Americas were a wild and untamed continent for roughly a century before European settlers began with their own vast plantations of cotton, tobacco and sugar. The native Americans didn't have such vast organized plantations so the early reports the Ottomans received probably gave them the impression that the locals were "tribal people" who had very little to offer and who would be virtually useless to trade/barter Ottoman goods with. The Ottomans also probably didn't believe the native Americans would disappear anytime soon and that the Europeans would "waste their time" trying to conquer a "wild continent" inhabited by "tribal people" who had very little trade value and no large quantities of what the Ottomans would consider "good business". (a national stereotype which has followed the Turks 'til this day).
    Knowing these three factors it becomes obvious why the Ottomans neither really had the ability nor the desire to conquer the Americas and certainly didn't believe it would be worth all the trouble.
    As far as many Ottomans were concerned the newly discovered Americas might as well have been on the Moon. Too distant. Too barren. Too expensive to undertake.

    • @JasonDoe1000
      @JasonDoe1000 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pretty good summary though I would correct one point and add another point
      As for the correction: The Portugese held control over many of the naval trade routes in the East, they seized these when they defeated the Mamluk Sultanate (who had control of the entire spice trade so far) in the Battle of Diu in 1509, from that point onward the portugese would have naval supremacy in the indian ocean till they got replaced by the Dutch
      And while it is true that the Age of Discovery was to find alternative routes to India it's not only due to the ottomans but also to break the portugese semi-monopoly on the spice trade (either you buy from ottomans or the portugese, but both would sell for highly inflated prices), that's why Spain invested so much in exploration
      As for the additional point: The ottomans couldn't reach the Americas, on one hand all possible naval routes to the Americas were in enemy control or inaccessible (like with Morocco) and on the other hand ottoman ships, primarily galleys, were not made for open sea travel, they wouldn't have been able to traverse the Atlantic or the Pacific, they simply lacked the naval technology in that regard

    • @selimardagokmen4727
      @selimardagokmen4727 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fax but mehmed the second wanted to go to Amerika he even taked the atlas of ptolemy and Stuck the word map on the wall of his room tho

  • @theonlygoodlookinghabsburg2081
    @theonlygoodlookinghabsburg2081 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    It's interesting that the main combattants in the region: Ottomans, Polish, Austrians and Germans -- who were the most powerful in these two centuries, didn't participate in the colonization process that was undertaken by other less powerful states (with the exception of Spain who was at a time also very powerful)

    • @bryane727
      @bryane727 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      The germans did colonise though but late, Austria was not capable and the ottomans although they didn't colonise still had overseas territories despite the fact they didn't need to because they controlled one of the most important trade routes in human history.

    • @theonlygoodlookinghabsburg2081
      @theonlygoodlookinghabsburg2081 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@bryane727 Yes I know the Germans colonized much later which is why I used the expression 'in thest two centuries" (referring to the period of 1500-1700 featured in the video).

    • @bryane727
      @bryane727 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@theonlygoodlookinghabsburg2081 oh I missed that my bad

    • @theonlygoodlookinghabsburg2081
      @theonlygoodlookinghabsburg2081 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @David Josephus Daniel Nuntius You think Portugal was on par with the Ottomans and the Habsburgs and the Polish Lithuanian commenwealth? I mean their failed compaign in Morocco kinda suggests to me otherwise.

    • @theonlygoodlookinghabsburg2081
      @theonlygoodlookinghabsburg2081 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @David Josephus Daniel Nuntius I'm saying that the Portugeese decided to invade Morocco and the best they could come up with is less than 25k men for a major compaign. Now compare that to the Ottomans or the Habsburgs at the time in their major compaigns. That's what I mean, I'm not saying Portugal wasn't powerful, I'm just saying that it wasn't top tier at the time.

  • @hadsizcengaver
    @hadsizcengaver 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I liked how you used Ceddin Deden as a background song. Good video, keep up your great work! Also lots of love from Turkey.

  • @bekirfatihbilgi4730
    @bekirfatihbilgi4730 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Cause the main rule in history is: "geography is your destiny"

    • @muhammadamirun3777
      @muhammadamirun3777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i think the ship on land of ottoman conquering byzantine and viking has different views of that

    • @birdhumming526
      @birdhumming526 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Definitely. Anatolia was a madhouse. Everybody conquered everybody. No fucking peace... never

  • @razorfools
    @razorfools 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Video: “Their expansion into.. *insert territory*”
    Ottomans: “Ceddin Deden!”

  • @TheSec09
    @TheSec09 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    By the way, Columbus was convinced until his death that he found a western land of Asia, not a new continent.

    • @quidam_surprise
      @quidam_surprise 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are we sure about that ? I think I read somewhere that his journal mentioned the possibility of a new continent on its 8th voyage, which is logical he could have drawn after so much explorations

  • @travelerforever8849
    @travelerforever8849 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love all your videos.. very creative refreshing and I can even explain to my children about history using the videos. Straighforward and simple explanation

  • @patrickblanchette4337
    @patrickblanchette4337 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    It's interesting to learn that the rise of the Portuguese empire indirectly led to the fall of the Mamluk Sultanate (who also played more of a role in Spain's & Portugal's colonial drive then just simply the fall of Constantinople).

    • @MFPRego
      @MFPRego 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yet, the portuguese never considered themselves as an Empire

    • @patrickblanchette4337
      @patrickblanchette4337 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MFPRego Neither do we Americans, yet look at our history😁.

    • @MFPRego
      @MFPRego 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@patrickblanchette4337 the US isnt an empire, altough by the XV XVI centuries standards, would have been

    • @patrickblanchette4337
      @patrickblanchette4337 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MFPRego What I mean is that a lot of people nowadays like to call it an empire (though not myself of course). I think a lot of people have a new definition for empire that’s not the official definition(I personally don’t care either way).

    • @marusdod3685
      @marusdod3685 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MFPRego we lacked the numbers to even call it "an empire". we just built a bunch of forts and traded with the locals then went back to the homeland. the only place where colonization was taken seriously was brazil, where at some point half of our population of 1.5 million just left to go there