MODX/Montage Scenes, Parts and Elements: Your Performance Secret Weapons

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  • @ericwhite6598
    @ericwhite6598 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have had my MODX for a year now and knew or never considered using and editing individual elements like that to create a multi voiced performance and use only one slot.
    This has opened up a ton of new possibilities for me now.
    Much thanks

    • @hanswurst2490
      @hanswurst2490 ปีที่แล้ว

      Strange🤔 Was one of the first things I did. Never had a problem with the part-limit? I had, already in the month😉

  • @IMRANnet
    @IMRANnet ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You’re very knowledgeable. Good pace not dragging and not too fast to understand. Thx.

  • @mydanbff5483
    @mydanbff5483 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you Mr Scott you explain better than the manual this is very helpful to me because the keyboard seems very hard to handle but you keep making it get easy much appreciated👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

    • @ScottsSynthStuff
      @ScottsSynthStuff  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      When you get your head around how Yamaha works, it's not that complicated. There's just a lot of stuff there to know. :)

    • @hienvu1714
      @hienvu1714 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​​@@ScottsSynthStuff Hi Scott. I've been watching your videos every day for almost 2 weeks and I really hope you can help me. I mostly play guitar/piano and sing. I have a Kawai MP11se/mixer/mic in my living room for that and have a Yamaha Tyros5 76 hooked up to a Mac Studio (unused so far) in my family room. I'm hoping to make simple backing tracks (pads, strings, background vocals, bass, guitar) to go with my piano or guitar/singing. I seldom use drums sounds because they never sound like the original songs.
      I have a Korg PA5X on order to replace my Tyros5 but I'm starting to wonder if that's a mistake. The PA5X is the latest so I'm hoping the sounds and features would be more advanced and modern than the Montage or MODX+. I don't perform live anymore so this is pretty much my retirement setup. I'm not a programmer and don't do deep editing so I guess I want great sounds that don't require countless hours reading manuals or watching tutorials. The Montage being an audio interface is definitely a plus. I'm not sure if the PA5X is. I do like the HDMI out on it but that's not a deal breaker. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

  • @ronaldihnogaucho8339
    @ronaldihnogaucho8339 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It Breaks My Heart having to find out that part 9-16 don't work unless you have a Midi Controller I have a Modx7 and I thought something was off but thanks to this video I finally saw what's wrong this is why I Miss my Korg Kronos the 🐐 of Keyboards!

  • @MichealMJF
    @MichealMJF 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you so much. I'm on the verge of getting the MODX8 and yours is the only tutorial that explains the specific hierarchy of Performances, Parts, Scenes & Elements. In fact I typed my search in just like that and yours came up first. I guess the other 'teachers' assume we all just know this!

  • @timberwind
    @timberwind ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi Scott, thanks,
    I own a MODX6 since more than a year, but this with the sustain-pedal and the scene-change was new for me, and i think it can be useful.
    thank you for this tutorial, i stay tuned for more.

  • @palashjaiswal7388
    @palashjaiswal7388 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very helpful video. Thank you for explaining the fine details and mind opening ideas.

  • @johnwitt583
    @johnwitt583 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great job explaining this keyboard absolutely love your video ❤

  • @yamahamotifxs
    @yamahamotifxs ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a very good method. I also used this with Motif XF and MODX8. This can be useful if 16 MIDI track are not enough for a song. I sometimes did several of these for a song, so it's like I could add extra sounds. It is very good because each element can be programmed separately for Velocity, Attack, Dacey, Sustain Release, so not all settings will be the same in all 8 elements.

  • @thiagoborges892
    @thiagoborges892 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The sustain pedal thing looks more like a feature to me! More useful than what you would like to use! But great video!! Tks!!

  • @joestover626
    @joestover626 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good stuff. One of the best regarding parts and elements, and even the scenes. I have the cp88 and it suffers from the stupid sustain pedal between live sets.

  • @springkordz
    @springkordz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Scott, another wonderful video. I have the modx but I only use maybe 5% of what this beast is capable of doing. I look forward to more videos to learn from you on the modx with advanced topics

    • @hanswurst2490
      @hanswurst2490 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Stay with the 5%...I found sooo many faults in the rest😂

  • @fcf8269
    @fcf8269 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Make total sense that the pedal stay on only when you trigger it. It does send a midi sustain signal that won't go off until you send the associated midi sustain off. As the pedal is pressed already, when you switch scenes the signal ON for sustain cannot be triggered; this is not a limitation of the instruments but it is how electronic circuit works with midi implementation. They could work around this using some tricks like saving the state of the pedal as ON and when the scene switch it would trigger it again even if the circuit is already closed, but that would require a signal to come from a microcontroller of some sort, that would simulate the signal of the pedal itself.
    Doable but you start to add complexity, when in the end the desired behavior is that you release the sustain when switching scenes and press it again. What you are expecting from the instrument is to act as a looper :)

    • @ScottsSynthStuff
      @ScottsSynthStuff  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You got it exactly. I actually did explain that when I recorded the video, but I edited it out, as I thought it was getting too far into the weeds. The keyboard is turned on, so the sustain ON gets sent to that part. If you switch to scene 2, then back to scene 1, while holding the pedal down, that sustain will still be held in part 1, because it never saw a sustain "off". That said, I think it DOES send a sustain "off" to the original part if you switch scenes back to it with the pedal released.

  • @nickpritchard7130
    @nickpritchard7130 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just picked up a used modx6. A very interesting and inspiring synth. This was a very informative vid. Please make a series of these vid as i feel your instruction is quite easy to follow.. Big thanks for this one.

    • @ScottsSynthStuff
      @ScottsSynthStuff  ปีที่แล้ว

      You're not the only one to make this comment. Thank you, I definitely will do more.

  • @ChordFreak
    @ChordFreak ปีที่แล้ว

    First of all: nice video! Very good!
    As an origin (e)organ player I could discuss some things here; what I do not so far. Two main things: 1. Sustain-pedals are something for piano players. I don't have one; and have no use for it. 2. Also with "velocity" (bigger discussion). No need, not common. Organ players usually use velocity-layering for special effects. E.g. play a bell at a certain point -> hit the key hard. Otherwise "velocity" is something for classical music.
    Then I'm pretty estonished, because for ME the part-limit was one of my fist issues. And because I don't judge this "layering" as an outrageous feature (avoid "crap";)), I quickly came to the element level. I choosed an 88, exactly because of what you are demonstrating. BUT then you will find out, that the sampling of Yamaha is very, very poor. You will find extreme changes of the sound over the keyboard. Perhaps not important, if playing over 2 octaves. But sometimes for the bin, if this happens inside those 2 octaves. Clean sampling costs time and money. So ... don't wonder. But for the price of the Montage ... I'm happy, that I only paid for the MODX ;)
    SCENES ... Question: how do you use them??? I myself use them for a "keyboard-like"-playing. Means during playing a song. "Secret weapon"? Not really. Yamaha simply didn't care about that at all. Noticed first, that you cannot change the split with scenes. For the rest: Sync-Problems, Timing-Problems (latencies), disturbing "change-noises" (I call this "hiccup"). Also other buttons cause a "hiccup".
    At the end: your video is really a fine advice. But unfortunately this machine causes serious problems playing it as a single-entertainer-instrument. Scenes? Main use may be the usage with a DAW.
    By the way one advice for people using them like me and having the same problems: one can automatically and cleaner change the scenes by using the sequencer.

  • @eddiezzz100
    @eddiezzz100 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great informative video. Nice work. Thanks.
    I'm trying to use my controller to play different sounds on channel 14 and change other channels to 14 but I've found out it's not possible. Hopefully your information will sort things.

  • @shaunm1030
    @shaunm1030 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for that tutorial. It was very helpful.👍

  • @alancummings5651
    @alancummings5651 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent instructions

  • @Amanet13
    @Amanet13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting,something to look forward for next update,if they wanna fix it.Another thing is in the efx area instead of type of (delay) might be the numerical adjustment.Or maybe I didn’t notice.I’m fairly new to keyboards.Thank you very much for your tutorials

  • @RickLewis
    @RickLewis 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey Scott. First I appreciate all your great video tutorials. Super helpful. I followed this one and for some reason cannot get things to save like I need. I have a performance with one part on one scene. I am trying to add a second part which will play with the same part but only on scene 2. That happens but when I click back on scene one it continues to play both parts at the same time. Tried saving , as new , overwrite, changing the name, etc. Any thoughts?

    • @RickLewis
      @RickLewis 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I found a comment from someone that mentioned a fix which worked.

  • @luizsongs
    @luizsongs 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great Tutorial Scott! I am from Brazil and a kind of ashame, but something gets wrong when I make my scenes.
    I chose the sounds, then click on "Shif + Scene1" - its ok, Then a pick another sound and click "shif+scene2" , but somehow when a change scene it does not work well (sometimes). WHat am I doing wrong? (sorry about my english).

  • @martinm7898
    @martinm7898 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello... I have a yamaha montage 6. How do I assign the small buttons under the sliders to act as "MUTE" for individual tracks? Also...how do I use the sliders themselves to act as volume for individual tracks...Is it even possible to do this.. I would greatly appreciate your help...ThankS.

  • @gibson2623
    @gibson2623 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very nice. Thanks mate :)

  • @CoderCoronet
    @CoderCoronet ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video! Thank you. Do you know what is the midi message to switch scenes on the montage with an external midi controller?

  • @joestover626
    @joestover626 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Scott, the sustain peddle not carrying over to a new scene. You mentioned that it could possibly be mitigated by some clever programming.. could you do a video of that? that 'problem' seems to be plaguing yamaha keyboards.

  • @thesoundzweddingpartyband9276
    @thesoundzweddingpartyband9276 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks, very useful video, can be tricky, just wondering do all the scene changes then have to be stored to a performance, & does the performance name have to be changed from the original one say that you started with.

    • @ScottsSynthStuff
      @ScottsSynthStuff  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, the scenes are stored as part of the performance, so you must save the performance to retain them. If the performance is a factory preset, you will have to save your version as a new performance, if it's not a preset, then you can choose to overwrite the old one.

    • @thesoundzweddingpartyband9276
      @thesoundzweddingpartyband9276 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ScottsSynthStuff great thanks, just wondering if i store the performance sometimes when i recall the performance it comes up with the last scene stored instead of the original performance obviously doing something wrong,

  • @dlek0
    @dlek0 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keld Sorensen
    Hi Scott. Thanks for a very useful video, (or many). I'm making a setup with 2 keyboards, my new MODX8+ and an old Roland G-70 (because I love the keybed, Fatar TP/8S) I want to use the functions of the G-70 but get all the sounds from the MODX via MIDI. In addition, I use a “virtual” IK Multimedia Hammond B-3X from a Surface Pro Tablet. I am familiar with MIDI.
    I need to save (convert) all the Multi Performances I use, as you do with the Performance "Demo Scenes" so that they work with only 1 MIDI channel. Can you explain, or make a video that shows how to create and save a performance like "Demo Scenes". I'm sure there are others who will appreciate this knowledge.
    Kind Regards Keld

  • @ebeat7929
    @ebeat7929 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Somehow it does not save the scenes - when I save seen with some parts off like you did, it says "scene stored" but when going between scenes it doesn't change. I tried also to save the ARP on/off between scenes and same issue

    • @shanjay8986
      @shanjay8986 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Had trouble with this myself.. Try going into the scene tab and switching on all the memorization parameters... And then store your scenes..

    • @RickLewis
      @RickLewis 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@shanjay8986 Was having the same issue and just did this and it saved correctly. Appreciate the advice. Thanks.

  • @rickzelle4074
    @rickzelle4074 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you!

  • @jeremymoore2835
    @jeremymoore2835 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Scott, Great video. When you switch scenes with the note being sustained from the previous scene is there away to program it so it will ignore the sustain pedal as well as the keybed. The Idea being to get a drone note to play underneath a piano part. Thanks

  • @MaGorSeven
    @MaGorSeven 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    for some reason on three different Montages and MODX the scene operation doesn't work, I try to save a scene and the parameters don't save. anyone...?

  • @edvaniovunge
    @edvaniovunge 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you so much

  • @heinrichjemane7970
    @heinrichjemane7970 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome tutorial, thanks. I have a silly question. I have two parts programmed in a performance, the second part is not playing even though it is not muted... Am I missing something

  • @markfrancisjavillo
    @markfrancisjavillo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How to assign sounds from modx to midi keyboard?

  • @cordovad
    @cordovad 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Maybe a dumb question but how do you save the first part to call up in a new performance?

  • @thesoundchecker
    @thesoundchecker 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How can I switch from one scene to a next one by pushing mit food switch?

  • @rronster
    @rronster ปีที่แล้ว

    Why can't the Montage have all the scenes on at the same time and let me blend with the faders live? Like you can with the The Roland RD-2000. Not just the single sounds?

    • @ScottsSynthStuff
      @ScottsSynthStuff  ปีที่แล้ว

      You can do that - you can have all the parts on and fade them yourself using those facts. Scenes are just "snapshots" of those settings that got can access instantly. So you can do it both ways if you like.

  • @pat2263
    @pat2263 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there a way to add physical faders to a modx8?

  • @hienvu1714
    @hienvu1714 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just ordered my white Montage 7 from Sweetwater today. Hope I won't regret not buying the Montage 8 but I already have a Kawai MP11se for piano and a second 88-note keyboards seem a bit crazy!

    • @ScottsSynthStuff
      @ScottsSynthStuff  ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't think you will be disappointed!

    • @hienvu1714
      @hienvu1714 ปีที่แล้ว

      I used to live in Ft Wayne IN and have known Chuck S. since he was operating out of his garage in 1982. Being in Ohio, you've probably been at Sweetwater a few times :)
      I started watching your videos about 10 days ago and have since ordered a GAIA then a Montage 7. Would love to continue learning from you. I've watched your GAIA video several times and will probably be watching it many more times when I have the unit in front of me!
      I have a Korg PA5X on order. Do you have any opinions on that one?

    • @ScottsSynthStuff
      @ScottsSynthStuff  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hienvu1714 I've been to Sweetwater many times, and in fact you'll see a couple videos here on me going around Sweetwater! Chuck is one of the nicest guys ever, he's also a pilot (like me) and recently rescued (purchased) Enstrom Helicopters from receivership.
      I don't know much about the PA5X - arranger keyboards are a bit outside of my wheelhouse, they aren't really suited for the kind of things I do with synths.

    • @hienvu1714
      @hienvu1714 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ScottsSynthStuff I wanted the PA5X because it's the latest and was hoping it would have the latest sounds and features but I don't do the "one-man band' stuff so paying top dollars for an arranger is probably dumb :) I may cancel it after I receive the Montage 7.
      I'm a retired hair-band guitarist who enjoys playing piano and singing 60s, 70s and 80s stuff. I just happened to go down a synth rabbit hole and watching your videos did me in. Great job... and awesome hair (especially after that convertible ride!)

  • @fahimdawer
    @fahimdawer ปีที่แล้ว

    Hmmmm this feature is available in Roland Juno Ds but when you are charging from one performance to another the sound will cut and sometimes make a horrible noise especially if effects of one performance varies from another.....I want seamless performance change ....

  • @Jesoteric
    @Jesoteric 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would love to have the modx but can’t afford it just purchased a second hand Roland fa 06 should be here in a few days

  • @gabrielirlanda
    @gabrielirlanda ปีที่แล้ว

    As a Korg user I find it very interesting, but can you join 2, or 3 or more scenes of those 8 to sound at the same time, or do you always have yo use 1 scene at the time? And if in case you can join and play the 8 scenes at the same time, what happens with the polyphony? Can the Montage support the 64 elements?

    • @ChordFreak
      @ChordFreak ปีที่แล้ว

      Scenes can only be used one by one. I don't really see a sense in connecting them, because each has a distiguished sense. Switch voice... switch arp...involve the Motion Sequencer... control the sequencer ... a.s.o.. Only a few of many examples, what I do with them. Do you have an example of what you are doing with "connection"? Sounds funny :D
      Polyphony. Coming from eOrgan to keyboards, I came to know this polyphony limits. Organs don't have this ;) So it's also organ-style to play "chordwise" (chords) on both hands (sorry, only know the german words). So far don't reach this limit with the MODX. I only one time reached it. 6 Finger-Play, some Arp on with many blinky-blinky-notes... organ-style. And afaik the Montage's limit is double as high. I can't imagine a problem there. But I also can't imagine to play a 64-sound-layer ;) By the way it is simple math: elements x played notes...and perhaps arps.

    • @iosuagalev
      @iosuagalev ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I understand the question also being a Korg User (Kronos). I think he is refering to what we have in Karma Mode where we have some zones that correspond to some midi channels, something very similar to scenes. In Kronos they can be activated in the same time. The workflow in Yamaha however is different. That is because a certain scene might mute, for example part 3 and another one activates it. So it will send a contradicting message. So of course, only one scene can be active, to avoid contradicting commands. But what you can do (because I understand the Korg standpoint) it is just use a scene that activates all the sounds. There are 8 buttons. On Kronos I haven’t been able to program more than 4 “scenes”. So on Yamaha you might get much more flexibility.

  • @lassel1644
    @lassel1644 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would be great if you could use a Scene in a DAW context meaning for each sound having all included elements addressing one Midi Channel in the DAW

  • @mo.musicology
    @mo.musicology ปีที่แล้ว

    So you also live here in Columbus?

  • @daddyrnr
    @daddyrnr ปีที่แล้ว

    Ohio here..what part?

  • @CRayBeats
    @CRayBeats ปีที่แล้ว

    Instead of a foot pedal they need to make a few more inputs for extra midi keyboards to control multiple sounds..

    • @ScottsSynthStuff
      @ScottsSynthStuff  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Just use an inexpensive MIDI merger. You could plug four MIDI keyboards into this box, then plug this into your MODX: amzn.to/3wvM3PS

  • @Kassiusday
    @Kassiusday ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am wondering who is giving this kind of tutorial one to one ?? 😊

    • @ScottsSynthStuff
      @ScottsSynthStuff  ปีที่แล้ว

      I get quite a few requests asking for specific topics to be covered, but I can only spend the time to create a video on one of the topics if I think it will benefit a lot of people. I can usually tell, because I'll get several people asking for the same thing. :)

    • @Kassiusday
      @Kassiusday ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ScottsSynthStuff thank you so much is a great tutorial !! you include so many details it so impressive ..I which I could have courses because often I do want to remix & rearrange some songs … etc ( … fantastic tools !! ) !

  • @lassel1644
    @lassel1644 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well having that kind of hair you have is not so bad in the first place