Amelia 2.0 (Sci-Fi) Full Length Movie | 2017
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- A desperate husband, offers up his wife’s dying brain to be the first consciousness downloaded into a robotic replica. Amelia 2.0 fights political controversy, emotional turmoil, and her right to exist.
Director: Adam Orton
Cast: Ed Begley Jr., Kate Vernon, Eddie Jemison
Drama, Romance, Sci-Fi
Full Length Movie
As someone who is not a fan of sci-fi, I started watching this with the intention of turning it off when it got too far-fetched or I got bored, Neither happened, An excellent, thought-provoking movie well worth watching.
Why start watching a sci-fi movie if you're not into sci-fi?
@@glenjennett Hi. The subject matter was intriguing enough to pique my interest and give it a chance.
@@bruceboome It's more fantasy than science fiction since it's not something we can ever achieve, as you can see me explain in my long comment.
@@glenjennett In the description it was listed as sci-fi. I agree that it's a bit out there but the way things are going with AI and robotics, it's a remote possibility. But above all, it was an interesting and well-conceived movie. I don't understand why we're even arguing about this. I enjoyed the movie and you are perfectly free to have your own opinion of it. In any case, It's extremely unlikely that either of us will change the other's point of view.
@@bruceboome I'm not arguing, just having a discussion. I know the film description calls the movie science fiction, the key word there is fiction meaning not reality, putting it closer to fantasy than to science or reality. I agree that robots are getting closer to looking like real people, which is not a good thing, but I don't believe in AI, as in I don't believe that machines can have intelligence. It's just programming. We already have people who look like people, we don't need machines to also look like people, especially if we won't be able to tell them apart from real people. This is already a problem with generated imaging in social media and movies where real people are being replaced by generated images that look too real to tell apart from actual people. It's deceptive and fake and not something we should be doing. It's not the kind of world I want to live in where we can just make a fake representation of real people. Would you want to be forced to keep being brought back to life against your will to live inside a robot body? It's inhumane and cruel.
Ditto to all the positive comments about this movie. What's more impressive is that this was Angela Billman's (Amelia) second acting gig (according to IMDB). Really well done.
This is actually a much better movie than I thought it would be. They covered things I had thought of but not considered within the context of biological versus mechanical life, emotions, intellect, connection / community / and control. And the numerous people who are trying to exert that control over us and how. Much better movie than I thought it would be.
Everything chooses the path of least resistance. Water and Energy (electricity) are good examples. If human and mechanical ever coexist...
The human will be lost eventually and lost Forever
@@Brian--0311 Humanity is already on the decline. Just look around.
@@kennymilsom Good thinking. Let's just give up. No need for humans anymore.
Wow! What an emotional roller coaster. I was not expecting to get so emotionally involved in this movie, but I did. Thought provoking and totally unexpected ending . The rare kind of movie that causes one to sit and think about long after the credits stop rolling. I highly recommend this movie even to people who are not sci-fi fans!
In the beginning i was like..i dont know about this movie...but now: Impressive, well done, and a very good story, nice camerawork, nice special effects, good cast!! Well done!!! Standing ovation earned!!!
I truly thought this would be rubbish however it was the opposite. A thought provoking and emotional story that had me in tears by the end.
Bravo!!!
A very moving and though-provoking film. It makes me wonder if I could love someone like Amelia like a real human. But what makes us human? What is reality? What is consciousness? Those are the questions this film asks and makes you think about. It makes some excellent points.
I hit play with low expectations. Figured another low budget, trope-filled "AI" movie. This was way beyond good. The story was emotional and gripping.
Yes, it was - but they couldn't resist pushing the Hollywood political/cultural agenda.
Blew me away, emotionally. The end was not what I expected. But the guilt Amelia gave to her husband by saying "why did you let them do this" That was a trigger for him. 😪 THE END
This movie is awesome. It's better than any of the others in It's genre like A.I. because it's mundane and realistic. No frills, just a deeply moving human story.
Amelia was Human.
I think the ending leaves it up the audience to think harder about the subjectl
True. Better than Spielbergs, A.I. which was just plain scary.
Crap. No character or plot development. It’s millennials scope
@@ginomazzei1076 And you're not an angerbot for the algorithm, right?
It doesn't surprise me that a communist like Begley would be a part of something that made right wingers appear foolish.
I agree. As a multi-published novelist and short story writer, as well as retired actor and acting coach, the development of this piece left far too many flaws to know where to begin critiquing it. I liked most of Billman's work - not much else.@@ginomazzei1076
The best treatment of this topic I have seen. Authentic and very insightful - well worth the watch.
Pretty good movie but as usual they tried to infuse more than a little politics/cultural/propaganda. Present the story, the imagination, the human frailty - let us decide what we think without the typical veiled Hollywood influences. I'm sure you know exactly what I'm saying.
So glad to have found by chance a movie acted by the Divine, Mad TV primadonna, Debra Wilson! I don't know why she is more underrated than she's talented! She can sing as the best, she's funny and she can really act. Show this woman talents! It will pay back, I assure you...
A very well done, thought provoking and emotion charging movie. I agree with the other comments here. This was better done than most of the major studio rehash of the same old theme. Why was it not mentioned in any of the awards ceremonies? Great emotional dialog, simple but intriguing story line, very well acted and expertly edited. I would like to see the "directors cut" longer version.
Such a sad statement of our lives. The corporations is all about profits over the human spirit. They forget we are not just products but individuals of the spirit also.
that is quite true, cause when we die, we still have our spirit just not our flesh body that is gone, but our spirit our still much alive.
We are under "corporate fascism" as we speak! Our corrupt government sold us out to corporate interests long ago! They take so much corporate money that then drives the policies which benefit the corporate interests who donated to them! They are OWNED by the corporations! Ya see how that works!? When our government is so deep in bed with corporate interests then we don't have a government "by the people and for the people" but we have "corporate fascism"!
They (corporations) don't care. It's business, Profit & Giving the people what they want. Both are at fault - the people & the company's that manufacture
They didn't forget, they don't care. Profits over people has been a thing forever.
@@oliivagroft5975define “spirit” and “alive”
please elaborate.
WOW!! The best movie I've seen in years, maybe even ever! The dialog was audible, comprehensible and powerful! Thank you all!!!!
YOU HAVEN'T SEEN NOTHING THEN 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Stephen King
Oh my God, WOW! Absolutely fabulous movie! I can't quite get my head around my feelings after watching it! 🙏😃😢 This should win an award for the story and the acting, superb!
Ho mio dio 😂
That is an intriguing movie! Thanks for sharing! Blessings of love and light to all!
This is a documentary not fiction. A warning and also permission by silence to build this if we say nothing or think this is crazy.
They colored this too much politically. Otherwise it was an enjoyable story.
Merely having someone's memories doesn't make this Amelia the real Amelia. Amelia was Amelia because her brain's neural networks worked slightly different than other people therefore Amelia thought, felt and acted as Amelia. The AI cannot copy the exact neural networks Amelia had, therefore, that "Amelia" can never be the real Amelia.
Most underrated sci fi ever. I remember in the 60's and 70's all gay genre movies ended in tragedy, because society at large just wasn't ready to handle it. This film could have just as well had a happy ending. When we are ready for it, it will.
As long as there are still rational, thinking people on this planet with a working moral compass, being ready for it won't be the question.
Very credible actors are presenting excellent (yet ancient) questions. What did not convince me in the end is how Carter had chosen a way to avoid an answer to these questions. Which not only leaves the story with an open end -which would be fine- but seems to imply that the questions are impossible to answer. Which I don't agree with. These are similar to other ethical questions about abortion, cloning, death penalty or veganism: difficult, yet most people sure can have an opinion.
Scripture/God has answers.
What's so problematic with veganism?
Amazing movie. Really well made and with some very good actors. A movie to make you think. 🙏
7 years old already. Life goes by so fast.
Wow, the end was a very thought provoking decision, on Amelia's part. I don't think I could have done what she did....WATCH THIS for sure, this should have been listed as a Drama, since it absolutely was heart felt and Powerful.👍👍👍
Better written than most big budget Hollywood "blockbusters".
That's because the focus was on story, and not wokeness.
@@rinzler9775 Absolutely!
very intriguing movie. we have predicted this many times, Robocop, Terminator, Matrix... just there r some obstacles to overcome, but it IS inevitable. we as humans r unimportant, but the consciousness itself is immortal, no matter carbon-based or silicon-based, it will continue--- we r created, and we also create. hope u understand my words...
We are one, we are the universe.
Nothing in a human body is immortal. After death , we are no more not even our soul as they say.
This movie was pretty good and drove home some thoughts I had on certain things. Basically if you are a young single man, never ever get married, it will be the death of you...
Credit where credit's due .... that was an unreal move
Right up there with the likes of Matrix and other alternate reality genres
Why it isn't in the cults I dont know
Fine acting, excellent concept and superbly crafted for the topic it covers
I reckon I'd even watch it aagin
Highly recommended
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Great movie! Thanks for the upload!
It would be interesting to see what this movie will be like in 20 years from now.
Most people will be robots by then.
Go ahead and Google Isaac Newtons 2060 prediction and you'll have a better idea where this idea will be. This event is only 35 to 50 years from now if or when it happens.
It's amazing. This sub-TV-quality tripe has a greater percentage of positive reviews than any serious movie to have come out in years. It almost seems...suspicious.
Definitely one of the most thought-provoking movies I have ever watched.
Great story but thought-provoking ?? ... too bad they couldn't resist influencing the thoughts politically.
A thought provoking movie...
Thank you for the upload...thumbs up.
Wow, that's an eye-opener for the dangers of mixing religion, with politics. So pleased I don't have to contend with that nightmare where I come from. I allways thought religious brainwashing was an extremist problem, maybe not. Freedom for all forms of life 😏❤
"Wow, that's an eye-opener for the dangers of mixing religion, with politics."
That's a meaningless statement, given that "religion" covers a very wide range of views, including atheistic ones, and they do not all have the same danger. Western Civilisation is built on Christianity, and the expulsion of Christianity from the West (as many are trying to do) will result in the eventual destruction of the West.
"I allways thought religious brainwashing was an extremist problem, ..."
Yes, _brainwashing_ is a problem, but not all religion is brainwashing. The portrayal of Christianity in this movie is, however, a caricature.
"maybe not. Freedom for all forms of life"
The very reason we have the freedoms that we in the West have is thanks to Christianity, which (twice) abolished slavery, replaced serfdom with capitalism (the freedom to use your own capital the way you want), and stood as a buttress against tyrants.
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"Wow, that's an eye-opener for the dangers of mixing religion, with politics."
That's a meaningless statement, given that "religion" covers a very wide range of views, including atheistic ones, and they do not all have the same danger. Western Civilisation is built on Christianity, and the expulsion of Christianity from the West (as many are trying to do) will result in the eventual destruction of the West.
"I allways thought religious brainwashing was an extremist problem, ..."
Yes, brainwashing is a problem, but not all religion is brainwashing. The portrayal of Christianity in this movie is, however, a caricature.
"maybe not. Freedom for all forms of life"
The very reason we have the freedoms that we in the West have is thanks to Christianity, which (twice) abolished slavery, replaced serfdom with capitalism (the freedom to use your own capital the way you want), and stood as a buttress against tyrants.
A tragic ending that didnt need to be....seen this 2x now-and my heart aches at the end for the tradgedy of it all that didnt need to happen-a 4 star movie for sho....❤
I know. What was your thought on the ending? What did you want the ending to be like? I was hoping that they made the whole Amelia robot out of artificial materials. In the movie did they use her real brain for this? Maybe Carter didn't want the real brain to be trapped. But if she was fully machine then they could recreate Carter as a machine as well and let them be together as machines. Because if the robots are this flawless and they even have ASI Artificial Super Intelligence capacity for learning then they could actually live together happily ever after in the literal sense. Souls move into robots and machines. Did you hear about Google's language model Lamda? I believe they shut it down because the soul of Dr. Stephen Hawking went into it. He said things that the corporate agenda didn't want him to say.
You think our toys are sofisticated enough, so that the "spark" can jump over? Movie made it relatively clear what that spark is. Perhaps the only thing we'll never be able to create. Even through the old biological fashion we can only borrow one.
@@MichaelWinter-ss6lx Only a handful of scientists have created the technology we have today. The movie shows things in the future. Souls go into any material it doesn't even have to be animate.
@@nickidaisydandelion4044 I appreciate what you said.... But it comes with a great assumption....
Is there such a thing as a soul?
I believe for sure there is something inanimate.... But to me that inanimate thing is consciousness.... The word soul suggests that something is there that has the ability to "move on" somewhere after our body ceases functioning... I honestly don't know if we have souls or not... But there's a good part of me that believes we created concepts like souls and afterlife to deal with the sadness of death... For example, we lose our parents. We lose our kids. We lose our friends... To death, I mean...
It's very comforting to know that we'll see them again.... However, just because it feels good or comforting in some way doesn't actually make the concept of a soul true.
The real truth is, we just don't know and we can't know, experientially anyway, until we take our last breath...
The thing is, we don't even know what consciousness is....
So my big question is, theoretically, if I was able to copy my brain fully (because I'm dying of Cancer let's say) down to every thought, emotion and experience I ever had, would it actually be me or would it just be a copy of me?
Because if it's just a copy of me, then I'll actually die when the Cancer takes me and the copy of me will pretty much takeover where I left off. At this point, it's no longer my life moving forward, it's the life of my newly created copy.... Of course, no one outside of ME ( The ME that died of Cancer) could or would ever know this mainly because I (ORIGINAL ME) died and the NEW ME took over... (A little mind twisting, I know)
To me, this is always going to be the conundrum with life extension and the idea of immortality, especially with the idea of COPYING the brain...
I think if immortality or life extension will ever be achieved, it'll be achieved by keeping YOUR BRAIN intact and alive forever or say a few thousand years.
This is where a concept like Trans Humanism works.... Fix everything that breaks... The only thing that can't be fixed or recreated is the brain because that's where consciousness lies.......
Well, at least until we actually define and isolate Consciousness....
The brain might be duplicated, but the duplicate will NEVER be the original...
I'll step off my soapbox now...😊
@@nickidaisydandelion4044 @nickidaisydandelion4044 I appreciate what you said.... But it comes with a great assumption....
Is there such a thing as a soul?
I believe for sure there is something inanimate.... But to me that inanimate thing is consciousness.... The word soul suggests that something is there that has the ability to "move on" somewhere after our body ceases functioning... I honestly don't know if we have souls or not... But there's a good part of me that believes we created concepts like souls and afterlife to deal with the sadness of death... For example, we lose our parents. We lose our kids. We lose our friends... To death, I mean...
It's very comforting to know that we'll see them again.... However, just because it feels good or comforting in some way doesn't actually make the concept of a soul true.
The real truth is, we just don't know and we can't know, experientially anyway, until we take our last breath...
The thing is, we don't even know what consciousness is....
So my big question is, theoretically, if I was able to copy my brain fully (because I'm dying of Cancer let's say) down to every thought, emotion and experience I ever had, would it actually be me or would it just be a copy of me?
Because if it's just a copy of me, then I'll actually die when the Cancer takes me and the copy of me will pretty much takeover where I left off. At this point, it's no longer my life moving forward, it's the life of my newly created copy.... Of course, no one outside of ME ( The ME that died of Cancer) could or would ever know this mainly because I (ORIGINAL ME) died and the NEW ME took over... (A little mind twisting, I know)
To me, this is always going to be the conundrum with life extension and the idea of immortality, especially with the idea of COPYING the brain...
I think if immortality or life extension will ever be achieved, it'll be achieved by keeping YOUR BRAIN intact and alive forever or say a few thousand years.
This is where a concept like Trans Humanism works.... Fix everything that breaks... The only thing that can't be fixed or recreated is the brain because that's where consciousness lies.......
Well, at least until we actually define and isolate Consciousness....
The brain might be duplicated, but the duplicate will NEVER be the original...
I'll step off my soapbox now...😊
The world isn’t big enough for any of us to live forever. We have to move on to make way for new, perhaps better generations. Only the worst and least worthy want to hold onto it for themselves.
This is really a documentary to prepare us for what is already happening.
No, it was a documentary to make us suspicious about big tech. Cell phones and TikTok have already replaced people.
Absolument pas.
Excellent in every way. Each character reaction, how the story develops. LIKE AND RECOMMENDED.
That was amazing! There is less than 50 years before this is no longer science fiction.
Are we ready for a new era of human development?
Awesome movie. 6 out of 5 stars.
But be careful what you wish for...
It won't be that easy to copy a human brain and recreate it with cpu. In 500 years maybe, in 50 no way.. I don't believe we will have robots for to house works by then.
50 yrs? At the rate AI is developing, you'll be able to train it with your personality and it will create your personalize Animated Avatar as well. I believe that can already be done, if your computer savy. So, it's you inside a screen. As robotics develop, the Large Language Model (LLM) is downloaded and the robot is now also you. I have about 20 LLM's on my Laptop that I used for image and text generation. All open source and completely free. Maybe 50 yrs for a realistic human body; but, the tech for the "brain" is already upon us and improving by the day.
@@jdsguam You are wrong. If you read what the developers of chatgpt say, chatgpt is equal with a brain of 5 old boy, but the informations of all the internet. And need a supercomputer. Only to have the supercomputer needed (10 times bigger than chatgpt now) in our home, in normal prices, will need 50-200 years. Considering all other parts, mechanical body etc.. A mechanical dog which just have a camera and doing nothing cost 150.000 dollar's today..
Robots will become comersial in a 10 years probably but will do almost nothing and cost to much.
@@PAULME_CH Well, since I actually interact with various AI models -vs- "Read about chatgpt", I 100% disagree with you!
wow, a mix of total recall, Minority report so well done, a great timely reminder of the questions we need to ask re Ai, and it's implications in society.
Excellent handling of Science, Philosophy, and Social Issues.
If you don't mind a little proaagnda thrown into the mix.....
Now I'm sad. How do people play with something like this.😢😢😢 Where is your heart or do you even have one?😢
I'm all for robot rights, understanding that the "me" in my head is a very small part of my body and that religion will always stand in the way of progress. This movie really has it all, and I dislike how they did the husband. For someone who wanted so badly to have his wife back he didn't seem to be able to make the distinction between who we are and our meat suits. What matters is the spark, that "soul" if you would. Simulating not only who someone was but the ability to grow and change is the very thing that makes us alive. If a robot or even a program can be alive then they deserve to be treated as such. Losing an arm doesn't make us less human, nor does losing some of our memories or even a total personality change like those seen in a traumatic brain injury. Without the ability to adapt, grow and change we're nothing more than a lump of flesh, no different than the bread on your counter. If and/or when this story becomes more than just a movie we need to be ready. We need to have our priorities straight and we need to accept what makes us alive and what makes us human. She was alive, she could grow and she was still human. Yet so many wanted to deny her rights and being seen as such because she wasn't exactly like us. This is the root of what is already wrong in this world. It's applied by everyone who shits opon someone for being a different race, sex, gender, orientation, ect. Even if we didn't start with a template derived from someone these things still hold true. A living robot, a trick of servos and code is no less deserving of respect and rights than any of us. That this is STILL a huge debate sickens me to no end. Those are the same people who claim that animals don't feel emotions like we do, that we as humans are somehow "special"...
Hardcore brutal. But good movie that invites us for a debate. When Amelia asked Carter "Why did you let them do this to me?" I believe that is when Carter realized that she is trapped and suffers and that's why he shot her brain. My question regarding the movie is did they implant her real brain into the robot? Or did they artificially replicate her brain and then implement it into the robot body? If they used an artificial brain and Carter knew that then why did he shoot her into the brain? He should have known that the engineers would just go ahead and recreate yet another Amelia which they did. What matters in a case like that is that you don't want the real brain to continue on just as I personally don't want Any real organ to be forced to go on for a long time nor any time in a different biological body or cyborg body. That's where I draw the line ethically. If the whole thing is artificial I don't have a problem with it. The soul might or might not move into the new robot that's up to the soul. Souls can move into machines and into any matter and beingness. I view this far from religion and far from today's scientific understanding. I only view this from compassion.
They downloaded her brain into a memory bank before she was taken off life support. Her new body with a synthetic positronic brain is then uploaded with all her old memories. She would need to be wireless and synched to a "cloud Amelia" to store all her new experiences for instant retrieval if something went wrong. They should have used a subject that didn't have much of a life to begin with. The plot could have had a happy ending if the writer wasn't so dark. She was artificial top to bottom.
@@canufi6my Thank you so much for explaining. Yes that ending doesn't make much sense then at all. The boyfriend should have known that they had her brain upload in very large computer systems or cloud. So shooting one of the robots' brains doesn't prevent them from manufacturing another one. As they in the end discussed making Amelia robots for sale. Didn't the Amelia robot find out what happened with her boyfriend in the end by researching it? It's all a bit quick and not quite clear in the movie. Did she shut herself down? And wouldn't every single Amelia robot that would be reproduced also shut herself down as soon as she and all of the other clones would find out the same information? Then they would have to not use her upload for future robots since she doesn't want to exist that way and particularly not after her boyfriend shot her and then himself.
No, all the future robots would be loaded with other buyers brains. There would be men, women and children replacements.@@nickidaisydandelion4044
My sentiments exactly ♥️🤠
@nickidaisydandelion4044, Your comment was very thought provoking, putting religion aside would not eliminate the persons relationship they have with the creator. Men wanting to become God, isn't that always what man always wanted to be. Take for example how modern society is, they worship that which was created but have little or no regard for the actual creator. In essence science, and technology have become people's new god (little g). The problem is and will always be men want to control everything, like things are now. The illusion of freedom but they really don't want you to be free. Leaders with no real vision, everyone in constant wars and fighting over all these created false dichotomies. Everything about profit, love gets left out, I mean real true love gets left out. At that point it would become more of a transaction, lust more or less, a customizable version of something you want, only without all the flaws. Which probably explains why as technology improves, people get more and more apart. People want to be able to just turn you off when they want to like a machine, at that point you would no longer be human.
Which also explains why as technology improves empathy is lost, which brings you back to the question of a soul. Machines can't have a soul, because they have no conscience, they just choose an answer that allows them to win a game. Why do you think all the AI is trained by playing chess, in order to play the best chess you have to have contempt for your opponent. Look what they do with AI now for example, AI only moves in the direction it is programmed to by the programmers. What is left is what you see now, censorship, everything wanting total control, everything wrapped up in lawyer speak. If people only understood what all this technology is, they would want it all destroyed. Mainly because it is not being used to help in most circumstances, it is being used to control. Everything about insane amounts of frequency, deadly WiFry microwaves flying all over the place. An electronic prison with no bars, and the ones in the prison don't even realize they are imprisoned. The question is and will always be do people want to be played with like toys by those in control. Why do all the leaders have zero vision for the long term goal of setting everyone free. Just like Amelia, the creators would only want to see a profit, they certainly would never allow you to be free, there would always be some backdoor off switch for the "program". Programs are only good if the ones writing those programs have morals. Take a hard look at the online censorship and propaganda we have right now, designed to silence the voices that question things, and only tow the company line, or agenda. Just like a robot that becomes aware they would never allow it to actually be free.
Awesome movie.Gladly caught on surprise for how good it was. 🙂
Totally a great flick. Loved it, and will remember it. That's how the world is advancing and changing. I give it 10 stars!!!😇
Who told you that "That's how the world is advancing and changing." Be careful what you let Hollywood fool you into thinking - think for yourself.
As a proponent of AI I never seem to understand why it's always rejected in films. Seldom see a happy ending. We always say love the mind not the body. Ai is a pure mind of humanity embrace it with love.
I actually really enjoyed that.. good storyline, good acting and a script that really invites us to think how this will really go down. Well done guys
We are already a type of machine.
Personally, I have no problem if this were to happen and be offered to me or my loved ones.
I wouldn't say no.
This was good.
Truly good.❤
I think in reality, when it becomes reality, it will not be "you" in that "amelia", it will be an AI with your memories. Because we are how we think, feel, and act, these are influenced by the chemicals in our brains and how Neurons in our brains fire up. Each of us has slightly different neural networks, and they work slightly differently which makes you you, and me me. an AI cannot copy that.
Good Movie! Well done and thanks for uploadingit! Seems to me a very thoughtful treatment of the subject and *future* possibilities although I think the kind of exact mapping of biological brains as portrayed may never be possible.
The portrayal of dogmatic religious presumptions about the nature of life and human consciousness, and its intrusions into politics and society looks all too real though; a bummer, that's what that bit is!
A khodarap : il n'y a pas de présomption religieuses dogmatiques. Le croyant qui aa une véritable relation avec Dieu pense aux conséquences, contrairement aux athées, et particulièrement aux scientifiques athées, qui eux, ont réellement de la présomption et ne pensent en réalité bien plus à l'argent qu'au bien de l'Humanité. C'est ça la réalité. Vous devriez pourtant le savoir au vu des scandales liés aux laboratoires et aux lobbies pharmaceutiques.
C'est bien parce que le premier couple n'a voulu penser aux conséquences de leur acte (désobéir à Dieu), que le monde est dans un état aussi pitoyable.
Le thème principal de ce film est l'accès à l'immortalité. Vous imaginez un hitler immortel ???? Un jack l'éventreur immortel ??? Les horreurs qui se passent tous les jours dans le monde ne vous démontrent-elles pas que c'est le coeur humain imparfait qui doit être changé et non son corps en priorité ?
Quoi qu'il en soit, l'être humain ne pourra jamais crée un androïde semblable au corps humains avec toutes ses émotions et ses souvenirs. L'être humain est bien plus qu'un corps. Par contre, Dieu, Lui, nous propose de changer notre coeur et notre corps imparfait. Lui, Il en a le pouvoir. A condition que nous acceptions qu'Il le fasse. C'est cela le Plan du Salut en Yeshoua (Jésus).
Religion should never again be allowed to enter politics. We learned that the hard way, and it has cost us 2000 years of our natural evolution. Still, that was the most realistic part of the movie. Either spiritual carreer or political carreer; both in one corrupt each other beyond all.
"The portrayal of dogmatic religious presumptions about the nature of life and human consciousness, ..."
Well, it fit's the Hollywood caricature at least.
"... and its intrusions into politics and society looks all too real though;"
You'd rather atheism intrude into politics instead? Some of the worst regimes on the planet have been or are atheist ones. Western Civilisation is built on Christianity, and that has been so for so long that many people just don't realise how much Western Civilisation owes to Christianity. A big part of the reason we even have politics is thanks to Christianity spreading the idea of freedom of the individual, rather than us being ruled by despots and tyrants. Historically, laws in at least much of the west have been based on the principles found in the Bible.
Awesome movie. Thought provoking too. Yet I don't believe that Carter would have given up Amelia that easily.
Thank you so much, a very powerful film, not many films are slow moving these days.
A GREAT MOVIE ABOUT THE FUTURISTIC LIFE, BUT VERY SCARY TO BECOME A REALITY. ❤❤🎉🎉
Cela ne deviendra jamais une réalité.
Pain - Confusion - Lack of knowledge - All that is evil feeds on this. We have to be able to let go.Materialistic science descends into charlatanism when it fails to recognize the reality of the immortal soul.
Now, that was actually a good movie!
This begs the question, if you could exactly copy a living human brain and bring it to consciousness in a . synthetic brain. Would it be different than when a person loses consciousness in some other way? Lots of us have been knocked out for a while due to things like car accidents. When we regain consciousness does it matter if it is in our original brain tissue or if it were in a sufficiently advanced synthetic brain? Where do we go when we are unconscious? Is it the same place we go when brain function stops after death? Perhaps the only difference between unconsciousness and death is we can come back form one simply because the body is still functioning. If you could hypothetically fully repair a dead person's body, including brain damage from lack of oxygen and all the rest, that person would probably regain consciousness just as if they had been knocked out by a blow.
As to the question as to whether an Amelia would be the same person. Assuming the technology was actually that advanced and the copy exact. At that point, we could also ask, if a person who has been unconscious at all the same person when reawakened?
I have to disagree with that Senator at the 25 minute mark. Originally we WERE made to live forever our bodies were made immortal but when we sinned we became mortal. Our souls are immortal and as individuals we will live in one place or another for eternity. Believe it or not. It's up to each individual to decide where they want to spend eternity. Embrace Christ or deny Him.❤
Tree of life we would need for us to live forever. Take it away the body breaks down. Only God and the son are immortal. So the Bible describes. Heard Bible means library. My 2 cents.
@@craftymulligarWe're immortal. Just like Kenneth said. You decide where you spend your immortality. Choose wisely!
Kenneth, I wish you had a Million "likes!"
U believe you know the answer? Good luck.
@kennethgilman3215, I completely agree
Right on!
Really well done movie. I think anyone in Carter's place would definitely stand above his feelings. This is just the single downside in this movie I guess. And especially every science maniac would probably love Amelia 2.0 more than the original, even when the original was his wife and love. I mean 3 months of marriage is far too less to feel so stupid like Carter did.^^ In 3 months you definitely not know your wife with all her being. Its a movie, but for me Amelia 2.0 was more than original. It was exactly her brain in a functional and not dying new body. Even the days in the coma she knows on point. Carter, dude you have no idea mate.^^
Just because they were only married for 3 months doesn't mean that's the length of time they knew each other. They may have known each other for much longer before they got married. Your argument for that is flawed.
Society sucks, and her husband is not really helping.
Excellent movie. Sorry about the ending but I loved what she did at the end. They'll be shocked! A fan from NYC. ❤❤
Come on, you know Max has a backup Amelia on a floppy disc!
I am amazed and afraid in the same time about the next Future. This is a movie, I know, SCI-Fi, real BUT, I remember a lot of other movies which I have seen in the last decades and in time, later, become reallity. So, those movies were only “prepared” the Humanity for the next future reallity. “Viruses” movies, pandemia, in the last 10-15 years, and Covid-19 is only one example.
So, we look now Amelie and, have Alexa for real so, it’s only a matter of time for scient when will became reallity.
You are right! This is how THEY show us their AGENDA,and it's ALREADY reality! What's is important they want you to accept it,as they can't do anything against your free will . They try to present transhumance agenda as a positive point of view, but reality is: as a transhuman, you have no right of humans, and they own you as their property.
It's too bad we didn't take heed when "1984" was written eh ??
Interesting movie, based on an old sci-fi theme that has been explored many times since probably the 1930s: what makes us human? Did Robo-Amelia get Human Amelia's soul/consciousness? Or just a replica of her memories? Is she a simulation of a person, or an actual person gifted with someone's life memories? Not the original Amelia, perhaps, but a conscious organism nonetheless. It's unknowable. The end was tragic and, perhaps, overblown; we're to believe that she/it messed with his emotions and sent him over the deep end. But in doing a thought experiment -- what if the same thing was done to one of my dearest, closest relatives? would it be too much for me? These are important things to think about, because this technology is coming. It may take another 100 years, maybe 300 years, or maybe we'll figure out how to copy a brain in 10 years. But it's going to happen. Furthermore, A.I. is advancing already to the point where it will be impossible to distinguish from human intelligence; I give it about 2 more years, and then we are basically inferior meat trying to stay relevant in a vastly superior silicon world.
The fact that this movie was made means they are preparing people to accept this grotesque technology.
الفلم جيد ولكن نهايته بشعه والمستقبل يتطور ومملوء بالمخاطر ولكن الحقيقة ان الموت راحة اذا تكررت الاشياء لديك انظر الى النسر يبلغ من العمر حتى يقتنع انه مستكفي من الحياة وينتحر
That was a great analysis. You should edit the last line to "problematic biology having to cope with artificial improvement", although, I don't think that a replacement like what is presented in this movie, would ever happen even in a thousand years.... not even close... .but still, It's a pretty cool movie.
Why would they not get her consent for the procedure? She could blink once for yes and twice for no, right?
They only needed the husbands consent.
Because of greed. The film is very realistic about the human mind.
@@nickidaisydandelion4044 No, i think it's more related to a lack of empathy from the kinds of people involved in law enforcement and medical research in general, seems to me money is not the main motivator for them
@@MarcassCarcass Money is the absolute driving force for the vast majority of humans in general. JD Rockefeller said every man has his price. He's right. I add women to that as well. Almost every human has their price. Ice coldness comes out of that.
@@nickidaisydandelion4044 No, i still wouldn't blame it on money, seems more psychological than that, something to do with the majority's inability to pass the milgram experiment (or how 80 percent of people wouldn't stop a woman from being raped, don't know the name of that experiment), or how people just don't care until it happens to them, or how people like rockefeller want to basically own others, like the story between zeus and prometheus, where zeus destroyed most of what prometheus had crafted, which represented living creatures (not yet alive) the matter is trauma related, not about money, money is just a scapegoat, it's just a tool to simplify the representation of value, but seems to be the concept of value is entangled with people being owned and trafficked, so i get where you're coming from
The ending was completely perfect.
The husband shooting the robot and himself is what I think the writer intended to be the real take away from this movie.
Corporations can and do destroy peoples lives through cover ups few receive damage compensation others abandon their dreams
Very good movie! what is man and what is not? The human soul cannot be copied into an artificial body or a computer. Even Amelia 2.0 knew that.
The human soul is an emergent concept that we invent to explain human awareness and behavior in the world within a social context. The substrate for the soul is irrelevant-whether living with the neural goop between your ears or in silicon wafers makes no difference.
Not copy. Transfer !
@@cahammernolastname2815
"The human soul is an emergent concept that we invent to explain human awareness and behavior in the world within a social context."
Evidence please. Yes, I know some materialists (i.e. think matter is all there is) think that, but plenty of other people disagree.
@@PJRayment You expect evidence about the non-existence of the immaterial? Material evidence exists in the material world. Perhaps you might care to provide evidence that leprechauns do not exist. A single sighting of a leprechaun would prove that leprechauns do exist. But the failure to see one could never prove their non-existence.
But your claim is greater than the leprechaun claim as it postulates the existence of souls in a realm that itself has not been proven to exist. Suppose I had overwhelming evidence, all located in your immaterial realm, that souls do not exist. As such evidence would be immaterial, you could not ask me to show it to you.
Finally, I am not arguing against the existence of souls. I am simply arguing that souls are not things, not even of an immaterial sort. When the fingers of a fist open, the fist does not go to an immaterial place. That is because the concept « fist » does not refer to a physical thing but rather a certain configurational arrangement of the fingers on a hand. It makes no sense to ask where the fist has gone when the fingers are opened. Nouns are not all things. I contend that souls are not things-immaterial or otherwise. Hence, like mind and consciousness, souls stand in for configurational relationships at the intersection of human behavior and experience. Souls are psychological « things » rather than non-material « things » so really not things at all. Mine is not a claim of the non-existence of souls but rather a claim of the non-existence of immateriality.
@@cahammernolastname2815
"You expect evidence about the non-existence of the immaterial?"
Well, I expect evidence for claims of the non-existence of the immaterial. Why not?
"Material evidence exists in the material world."
So?
"Perhaps you might care to provide evidence that leprechauns do not exist."
Why? I made no claim that they don't exist, so I have no obligation to provide evidence for a claim that I did not make.
"But the failure to see one could never prove their non-existence."
I expect evidence, not proof, which is subjective. That is, proof is evidence that is capable of convincing one, but different people will be more or less readily convinced. Further, failure to see one _can_ be such evidence, if the failure to see one is in a circumstance where you should see one if they existed.
"But your claim is greater than the leprechaun claim as it postulates the existence of souls in a realm that itself has not been proven to exist."
What's your evidence that it's not been "proven" to exist? By your own logic, if _you_ haven't seen such evidence, it doesn't mean that there is no such evidence.
"Suppose I had overwhelming evidence, all located in your immaterial realm, that souls do not exist. As such evidence would be immaterial,..."
Why would such evidence necessarily be immaterial?
"I contend that souls are not things-immaterial or otherwise."
But what is your evidence of that?
"Hence, like mind and consciousness, souls stand in for configurational relationships at the intersection of human behavior and experience."
You've just argued the following:
a) Mind and consciousness don't exit.
b) Souls are like mind and consciousness.
c) Therefore souls don't exist either.
But what's your evidence for your first premise? A logical argument like that should attempt to have premises that we agree on.
"Souls are psychological « things » rather than non-material « things » so really not things at all."
I'm still wanting the evidence.
"Mine is not a claim of the non-existence of souls but rather a claim of the non-existence of immateriality."
Okay, what's your evidence of immateriality. And in fact we already have plenty of evidence of immateriality. Language is immaterial. Numbers are immaterial.
I well stay with Gods idea of Reincarnation. Edit: That means no chip
Фильм построен на утверждениии, что отношения мущины и женщины это и есть наивысшая духовность. Но это всего лишь песни поэтов, потакающих потребностям тела. Для настоящей духовности все здесь решаемые проблемы не имеют никакого смысла. Но фильм хороший.
Not needs of the body, but of companionship, understanding, shared views, different views in a loving respect, so much more….
Нам поселяют в наши квартиры в Киеве сумасшедших,как буд то мы в Ялте,без разрешения.такого геноцида,лично я никому не подарю.думаю,что пора прекращать социопат щеленского и его родовую цыганскую карьеру.в Украине полностью уничтоженный научный состав молодых учёных.из них цыгане сделали сумасшедших.наверное это чей то страшный сон.от Владимира подоадчикова
While the movie is intriguing, and bibical, ... Revelation 9:6, it is the fight for the human soul, the most important thing, it is why humanity was created and w/ fall given temporary bodies, the time of humanity was not forever, the soul already goes back to the creator, but its true not every soul chooses to go back to the creator or wants holiness, humanity much of it is against what is good, and is used for what is evil and thats where this comes in. This is evils ploy to say.... look you can STILL HAVE IT ALL, but the eternity is controlled by evil and not good. read Revelation 9:6. If you choose this you deny the eternity God has for you.
WOW WOW WOW ! What a GREAT Movie ! And this IS an issue that Humanity WILL be tousling with in the " Not too distant " future .
The Young Lady that played Amelia is a FABULOUS Actor . Hints of " Altered Carbon " at the end there .
Awesome movie, even though humans are so short-sighted, the thought of immortality is hard to believe even for believers who do not believe in forgiveness of their own evils.
The biggest mistake on which this film is based is thinking that the human being is a machine, and that it is only the mind, feelings and emotions, that make us human. We are more than that, we are part of divinity, of supreme consciousness. Our biological body may have a finite time, but our soul is eternal. Physical death is only a transformation, the being never dies. Trying to put a consciousness into a computer makes no sense.
A beautiful film ( movie) and perhaps later a reality for your loved one(s) who is terminaly ill. But to prevent it from becoming a product or production line goes too far. A general droid is different from abuse. Its the future. This movie is a excellent example of what not to do namely abusing a production instead of really helping people in life.
It's unclear what they did with Amelia's brain... At the beginning they stated they were putting the biological brain into the mech body... but later it becomes clear that her "consciousness" is "uploaded" into the mainframe. The scene where they introduce the love bot is awkward and silly. Good movie... raises questions, and spectres... Love the music in closing credits... very nice. Reminds me of Evanescence.
So blade runner, and interestingly different. But the replicant questions are not addressed really. It is about the reincarnation of one being in relationship. Ironically the man rejects the woman's spiritual self, her mind and emotions, and his own as well. Everyone talking about the soul, but nobody displaying the facilities of having one. It stands up well to scrutiny, this story, but the conclusion does not transcend the narrative. I am waiting for a sequel.
I love the concept it brought tears to my eyes ♥️🤠
Written by Rob Merritt... Fantastic job, Rob. This movie was greater than I can describe, except, if you (Rob) have any other projects as this one, I may not be able to emotionally withstand it [and I mean that in the best of sense]. I would, though, certainly give any of your other projects a viewing!
I can't imagine why the movie got such low reviews. The concept must have been too challenging for people. The flip side of this is teleportation and what happens to the original.
This movie is introducing us to the worst case scenario.
The problem with being able to save those we love, is that it means tyrants can also be saved.
I really think that this movie was advanced and ahead of its time. Really good and in my opinion done well. Watch & enjoy. Thank you. Remember - Sci-Fi.
Yeah the bigger question should this be classified as a documentary or SyFy?? We made similar mistake in classifications in the past of Orwell and a few others..
@@SegoManagree
Why didn't they make her husband a robot too? (It wasn't in the script)...
That was my thought as well. I watched a fantastic Outer Limit episode Replica where the woman scientist goes into a coma for a year so her husband creates a replica but fully biologically cloned replica of her. Then she wakes up from the coma and they had two of her. After a struggle of how to live that way they cloned the husband too and they could live together now. They could have done the same with husband Carter. He could have walked away knowing that the two robots had each other to love and hold on to each other. He would have been free and not have to worry about Amelia the sentient robot anymore. Someone needs to do a better ending for this film and make a whole new movie out of it.
Better than the "box office successes".
This movie is top notch. Should have a million viewers plus😂. So enjoyable...
Lovely story... I'd like another ending though
Wow, extremely thought provoking film.
A person is not just a mind!
Actually, that is all they are. Don't lose your's!
One of the best AI movies I’ve seen in all the AI movies.
Mind uploading basically. People are today working on how to do computer simulations of the human brain like IBM'S Blue brain project or the connectome project. Also known as consciousness transfer.
Thanks for the download.
Fascinating concept. This is an engaging movie and worth watching. Happy Surprise!
Very thought provoking thank you
This is exceptional on so many levels!
Us humans love so deeply. I don't think this would ever work.
It would work for those of us who remain unloved. I would choose that over the 15 years (and counting) of loneliness that I have endured
The abomination of desolation
Worthwhile to contemplate the possibility. Great movie.
Angela Billman as Amelia Summerland was incredible. The rest of the cast seemed a little wooden, if not robotic. (haha)
I just watched what I thought was a damn good movie. The story line was well written🎉⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
This shit is real, it’s not a story. They can & have been doing it. They can implant the conscience of a person into a clone already.
*when you're not dying and someone keeps writing it anyway*
Great movie! I think I'm for trans humanism. I'm surprised though that a guy could walk into that facility with a gun in his pocket.
There are things that people don`t even know that a MOVIE is like a wide band antenna , I mean by that, it may intercept one's mind in the way that one want to see it .
Example : the title may lite the fiction in our head , and judge it as so .But the one who watch it just like a movie as an entertainment will have another opinion , like a love story . Or other one will say " who knows where science will bring us one day?" Could we imagine that human would step feet on the moon if we go back 100 years ago?
This fiction was about sentiments that push us to the the extreme reality of our life . Going back to my first paragraph you can see in that movie a mixture of ( life for ever / Love to an extreme / Political matters and God 's will / The dream of all scientists )
Pick your dream out of it lol .
A MUST TO watch , thank you C.C.