Today for 62 bucks CAD I got a divining top, a concordant crossroads, a tooth and nail, and an ur dragon. They were just all slightly dinged up and weren’t even damaged. Then I bought one pack and pulled a recruiter of the guard. Just wanted to share
@@scottdahneke1031 best haul in a very long time. If you live in Canada I would totally check out 401 games, their moderate to hp cards are like 1/7th of the price
A super unappreciated part of Command the Dreadhorde is "it does damage to you." instead of paying life, which is really abusable. I have a deck that runs Blessed Sanctuary, Personal Sanctuary, Righteous Aura, Purity, and The Wanderer in conjunction with lots of group slug effects and Dreadhorde Invasion. It's definitely a C+ card, but in that deck it's amazing.
Idk i’ve won like 5 game from this card because you’ll be surprised what ppl discard or have milled to the graveyard or what died from the battlefield. Just dont be too greedy and put yourself down below 10 life and stay around to just get what you need like flying, haste, trample, menace cards to close out games and its a very nice addition to a black deck for sure
Using Purity with it is just plain mean. Looks like I should be taking about 21 damage...Oh wait, I'll gain 21 life, instead. And you have already practically reset the game like Karn.
For those who want a timestamp to certain cards. XD 2:12 Mindcrank 3:04 Mass Hysteria 4:23 Waste not 5:24 Ulvenwald hydra 6:40 Thousand-year storm 8:00 Intruder alarm 9:23 Goblin recruiter 10:48 Bloodchief ascension 12:21 Angel of the ruins 13:23 Syphon mind 15:11 Ritual of the machine 16:40 Weathered wayfarer 17:40 Command the dreadhorde 19:08 Wandering archaic 20:21 Lethal vapors 22:06 Smoke 22:52 Dack fayden 24:11 Ugin, the ineffable 25:24 Sunforger 26:48 Command beacon 28:24 Mythos of snapdax 29:25 Filth 30:16 Mystic reflection 31:31 Remand 32:15 Altar of bone 33:24 Commander's plate 34:13 Crypt of agadeem 35:41 Righteous aura 36:25 Lifeline 37:01 Drown in the loch
Wandering Archaic has been always great in my games. He gets almost never removed because everyone wants the copy ability for the case that someone can win this turn and someone else at the table wants to play counterspells. I think too many players focus on the "what does Wandering Archaic for me now" instead of "Wandering Archaic will make sure no one else can combo off so i can win later"
I agree with the assessment of the card Smoke, but in its defense I'll say it's a stax piece that won't lose you friends. I used to run it in a Torbran mono red burn deck, and at times did really help stay alive against go wide strategies. There was never a time I played it where everyone at the table groaned or got upset, like you would generally see when a static or winter orb would hit the table. Smoke isn't so good that it detracts from everyone else's fun but can still be useful in certain decks.
I play righteous aura in my Jared Carthalion deck where keeping the monarchy is a high priority and uses a bunch of other deflecting palm like effects... preserving the monarchy and keeping yourself the one drawing the card is good
I still think Sunforger has a use and I think they are pretty narrow minded on actually using it. It’s the ‘I’m going to fish out the card that’s saving me from a board wipe or game ending spell’ not for random pieces of removal.
Defently, i have a boros equip deck with Ardenn & Rograkh at the helm and FunForger is one of the best equips in the deck! Just needs the right package: Angel's Grace anti instant win (best feeling vs thoracle muahah), Boros charm / teferi's protection for wipes protection, swords to plowshers / Return to dust for single target removal and the sweetest: Rebuff the wicked a freaking counterspell in white!, some protection from colors for offensive and defensive capability and throw in Mistveil plains to reuse the instants forever. As long as you can cheat the equip cost i think its a very good equip
welp, these two shits got me to click on the video because of the Sunforger grade. Sunforger is straight a wincon, besides some of the other mentioned spells( Teferi's, Boros Charm, etc) probably the best combo I've done in my Aurelia deck is wait till the perfect time, namely when the blue player taps out, you fetch Chance for Glory and take an extra turn to kill 1 or more players. even if you don't end the game you can re-equip and tutor Angel's Grace to keep from dying. and yes, your creatures are now Indestructible for the rest of the game, which shouldn't be long. Getting alittle tired of these two giving Boros the shaft more than Josh Lee Kwai.
@@thetaoofgaming7045 Haven’t ever used it for chance for glory / angel’s grace, but that’s mostly just because my Aurellia deck is angel tribal reanimation so I’m mostly just packing the Teferi’s protection and Boros Charm along with whoever removal pieces I already have in the deck. I still think though the card is the emergency ‘shit has hit the fan button’ and in my current play group they’ve caught on that if I have it out they need to get rid of the equipment first before trying to wipe the board.
Nah it sucks in 99% of decks. It's really good in feather or Ardenn intrepid archaeologist paired with some commander that has red. But in the overwhelming majority of decks its a huge mana sink that gets your creature to become a huge target for value removal with really mediocre benefit for the turns used to play it.
Ritual of the Machine gives me super nostalgia. I've been meaning to buy one for a while, but had been putting it off. So I got one after this video! I think you guys may finally be causing a price spike with your content: I had the card stolen from my shopping cart twice on tcgplayer!
I just took Mindcrank out of my Syr Konrad deck, because it can’t guarantee creatures, and my strategy doesn’t really center around draining life or combat damage. Ever since you guys mentioned “not good enough, Gary,” From Spongebob, thats all I can think about whenever I cut a card. 😂 I’ve been an adult for quite a while now, and I still think that show is hilarious. I also have Crypt of Agadeem in that deck, and besides that one time my only option was to play the only two lands that came into play tapped two turns in a row when I really needed the mana it’s been pretty good. If that happened and I didn’t have enough creatures in the graveyard to take advantage of it the next turn, then I might have been a little mad. I think thats too unlikely of a situation to put the card on probation. 🤷♀️
I love lethal vapors in my marchesa deck. It creates so much discussion at the table. No one wants to skip their turn to destroy it but the table starts trying to bribe each other into doing so. Very few cards have the impact it has on a game.
I'd like to point out Crypt of Agadeem adds black mana for each BLACK creature in your graveyard. Couldn't get it to work consistently in my Rakdos reanimation deck despite that deck being graveyard focused, since half the creatures are red. Crypt would work great in Syr Konrad though.
This is pretty awesome. I wish that there was another special series that you guys do where people send you their favorite decks, and you guys give Deck criticism. I’d like to see the rationale that goes into the big picture of that construction. Just a suggestion. Love the show!!!
Sunforger is my baby in my Wyleth deck. Makes him huge, and I can dodge boardwipes with Boros Charm, reflect damage with Deflecting Palm, counter targeting spells with Rebuff the Wicked, all sorts of fun stuff.
sunforger is still pretty good in equipment/artifact decks where you can mitigate some of it's costs. people also forget it gives +4/+0 which is actually a ridiculous power boost. boros also has some of the best instants imo, boros charm, akroma's will, deflecting swat, wild ricochet, path to exile, return to dust, settle the wreckage, these are all great cards that I'm happy to run anyway and can genuinely win the game for you. A well timed boros charm or akroma's will is instant GG often. it definitely isn't for *every* boros deck any more though, it's too slow if your deck has no synergies.
Mythos of snapdax is interesting and my thoughts used to be the same as your guys'. However consider in those 3 colors you're up against blasphemous act, toxic deluge (with white to really support lifegain), and now the new vanquish the hoard. In these colors I'm also not often wanting to do a mass artifact wipe, as it's probably the bulk of the mardu ramp, as a 4th boardwipe, sure it's probably a great pick and i still love it as a pet card - of course it is also cheaper than all the others i've mentioned, but just thought I'd give my 2cents on why it's maybe not an A+ :D.
I know this vid is old, but I’ll go to bat for *Sunforger* in a very specific deck: *Feather the Redeemed.* She’s already an Equipment / Instant oriented Commander, and *Magnetic Theft* solves every problem Sunforger has. Of course, this is the old “but the card is good in one specific circumstance” argument. I’m just being defensive of my favorite piece of Equipment. Good video, guys.
Ayy I’m the one submitted Goblin Recruiter, and I’m glad we had the same assessment! I’ve been playing a Krenko deck for five years, and only recently pulled out Goblin Recruiter specifically because of those badfeel scenarios of being decklocked into goblins. My biggest advice for anyone seeing this comment and thinking about it: Have Goblin Matron be the goblin you put on top, followed by Conspicuous Snoop. So you guaranteed get the Matron who can not only tutor, but give you a shuffle as well
Thousand-Year Storm is STUPID good when you flash it out before your turn. It especially works incredibly well with Ral, Storm Conduit. That's a pretty surefire way to blow your opponents out.
Lifeline is awesome in toxrill or elenda the dusk rose, where you want opponents creatures to die. In elenda it’s especially good since they can never wipe the board since she always makes the vampires upon death.
Lifeline is definitely niche but there are a couple other plays for it. Gisa, glorious resurrector would exile opponents creatures. Leyline of the Void would as well. I believe Liesa, Forgotten Archangel would give you the option of putting your creature in your hand or return to battlefield, while exiling opponents.
I have literally never lost a game where I have resolved a lifeline (with the exception of a single time it got immediately krosan gripped). Grenzo Dungeon Warden + Ashnod's Altar + Lifeline = an engine that will take over the game in one go around the table You only put it in aristocrat decks or combo decks where you are going to get the most value, and when it does, you pop off.
The only card I disagree with its rating is Drown in the Loch. If B stands for build-around, then B tier it is, in strategies than fill graveyards this card is really solid. Loved this video btw, made me discover a few cards and remember some gems like Mythos of Snapdax existed
One more note on Mindcrank - in more casual settings, in a deck where you want stuff in your opponents' graveyards, it can be a fun include. E.g. it's in my "The Mimeoplasm" deck.
Commander's Plate is a D, unless you're playing Ardenn as your commander. Then it's A. Partner with Falthis and it's A+, but you're also a crazy person for building this deck in the first place.
I've never seen lifeline before but that card looks sweet, obv symmetrical isn't great, but the card seems super strong in any sort of sacrifice deck, and notably board wipes still function if you do reach a point where your opponents are getting more value than you out of it. It seems at least interesting, maybe even good, and I'm excited to try it regardless.
An underrated card i like is Medicine Bag, goes in pretty much any deck and can save your creature/commander by giving it regenerate by discarding a card. So many ppl run removal/board wipes that you need ways like heroic intervention/snakeskin veil, mizzit skin style cards to keep your creatures alive to try and keep board advantage
Command Beacon is SO sick in Muldrotha to dominate a lategame. You start looping it and your opponents can't keep her off the table. I need to dust off my Muldrotha deck lol
Thieving Skydiver will at least do a great "minus dack to steal your sol ring T2/T3" impression! also hijacking this video to ask you guys: what do you think about devastating mastery? I feel the 4 mana cost isnt that bad since at my pod one person getting 2 of his things to replay is managable (ofc there is fringe cases where everyone goes off right away but its rare)
I play at low power tables but I like it! I am the type to play a raw planar cleansing though, so getting a cleansing with potential upside is worth it to me
Sunforger is A+, you can search and use it for so many different reponses - Teferi Protection, Counterflux, Dovin's Veto, Chaos Warp, dmg from red spells, indestructibility from white spells, lifegain, blink, many type of exile creature - best in deck which allow in many ways attach it for free
I'm sorry but this a 5 mana tutor in an equipment deck made for it. So while it is good for budget decks, if we are playing for power or you want EFFICIENT tutors, this is worse than diabolic tutor at 4 mana. Outside of equipment decks this is an 8 mana tutor
B+, its good but only works at his full potential in a very specific boros deck, in other color combinations there are waaay better options, but if you are building a boros equipment deck its a must have
Righteous Aura is actually super solid in my mono-white lifegain deck, stops voltron decks from killing you. I would highly recommend people try it out in those kind of decks, very cheap $$$ wise too.
Ritual of the Machine started rocketing since mentioning it. It was $8 on the low the day this episode came out and it's sitting at $18 on the low now lol
I saw a note that you were looking for ideas for cards to grade, but when I clicked on Discord I had no idea where to submit a card. Too bad, I think I had a good one! 😈
If I run Altar of Bone, I usually run Viridian Emissary and Veteran Explorer. They're great sacrifice targets and sacrificing the Explorer is a politics play.
Thoughts on Sunforger in Feather? I hear alot of debate back and forth and I was going to try building my deck more towards in this direction to see how it feels. You're actively grabbing weaker cards on average, but the cards can be reuccurred.
You can still play Weathered Wayfarer with green too. If you have a low curve and not a lot of land you don't play much land ramp cards. It's more dorks and rocks, or just dorks. I have used it in my Abzan deck where turn 1 I played dork, turn 2 fetchland, don't crack, wayfarer, turn 3 crack fetch, hold priority, activate wayfarer, search Gaea's Cradle. It was a good game.
Righteous Aura is much, MUCH better then you are giving it credit for. It basically makes you immortal to damage. Put it in a control deck, especially one that plays at instant speed, and for two mana you never have to worry about commander damage, fatties, whatever. It allows you to worry specifically about go wide tokens and combos, as you can ignore everything else. Even protects you from burn, including your own cards like Heartless Hidetsugu or Command the Dreadhorde. This, of course, ignores playing it in a lifegain deck, where the 2 life cost becomes negligible and it makes you immune to commander damage. I'd try this one out before you dunk it. To wit, this is a rebalanced Forcefield, but not a million dollars, prevents the damage entirely, and is an enchantment.
Wandering Archaic belongs in a deck like Shalai, where she can protect it and people will need to cast stuff to try to remove your Hatebears or Planeswalkers, again... Board wipes answer it cleanly, but that is the main weakness of Selesnya.
Whats the problem with Lifeline? Sure anybody can activate it but only creatures from your graveyard are coming back Edit: If there are any erratas on cards you should tell us, no errata Lifeline would be awesome
i would argue thousand year storm is a b- as it has a deck where it gets put into play every time and can even be put in at instant speed. the deck is keranos polymorph. when you get it out it wins you the game. the only bad part of the deck is you can’t play creatures or other enchantments but it means you can win fairly regularly
Command the dreadhorde is way better than you think. It doesn't just bring back creatures it also brings back Planeswalkers making it great for super friends or in rare cases bring a Planeswalker back after using their ultimate.
Sunforger is great in a Feather the Redeemed deck. It becomes 5 Mana: "Draw" an instant/sorcery from your deck. Plus you get a free cast of that spell! Is it "Jam in every deck" good any more? No... But the decks that can use it are great!
I don't like sunforger in Feather as much as I used to for one reason. All the targeted instants/sorceries that would go back to your hand are 1-2 CMC. You're paying 8 mana (the first time) to tutor a 1 mana card and cast a one mana card. Is it bad? No, it's not terrible if you get more than 1 use out of it. But I think Sunforger is more effective in decks like Syr Gwyn and Rograkh/Ardenn, where you can bypass the equip cost. 5 mana the first time and 2 mana every other time, and tutoring for 3-4 mana spells instead of 1-2 mana ones makes Sunforger a house.
@@Explosive371 it find the tutor ability should be kept as a secondary ability to either get out of a sticky situation or if you don't have anything else to do. i was tempted to take it out from feather, but i find the +4 does matter. having a 7/3 flyer with attack buffs like double strike or double power can end games pretty quickly.
Sunforger does work in my Aurelia the war leader deck. It's not the 1st equipment I go for but if it gets to the long game it's great. Able to tutor for settle the wreckage or boros charm or Teferis protection
Alter of Bone is good for Naya decks. Most Naya decks have some kind of token making and whats one less 1/1 gonnna matter? Red also has similar effects like Transmorgify. Creature based combos will like this card too. Not saying its an auto include in any Green/White deck but it fits its role well.
The one home I ever found for Wandering Archaic was Belbe, where having strong 5-6 mana colorless spells to drop on turn 2 is great. It’s not as good as 6 mana Ugin or Immortal Sun but it does work, especially since early on when you might get it out a lot of people are still casting ramp spells. I mean, too often those games end too fast to really pay off if you land a turn 3 Torment if Hailfire for 7, but Archaic was still good.
Wandering archaic is a superstar in my obeka creature copy deck. That time An opponent tried to counter a spell and I got to ask him would you like to pay 6 for that with my 2 copies and the original wandering on the board.
I'd say if you cannot reliably reduce the equip cost on sunforger, then putting it low makes sense. But as soon you have any card or commander that can reduce that cost (Zirda and Ardenn are the big two), then it goes from too slow to a game winning board piece. The most important use for it imo is not for removal or card advantage but protection or an alpha strike. If you aren't using sunforger for something like Akroma's Will or Teferi's protection then most other equipment will serve you better.
I'm not sure I disagree with your rating, but I feel like you missed the main point of Righteous Aura. The big payout is in a Lifegain deck, to protect you from Voltron decks that kill with commander damage. This converts commander damage into mundane life loss, and doesn't even have to target. That being said, it is extremely niche, and may get cut even in its ideal deck, so I might want to bump it to D-, but not much higher.
Sunforger D-? i dont think so. Okey it's not for every deck but in the right deck is just an A, some people say "but it's 5 mana for just tutoring 1-2 cmc spells at the end of the day, not worthy" and i think 5 mana for a repetible tutor is fucking dope, you can protect your stuff, you can blow up creatures, buff your creatures... And you can just break it in Feather, it's incredible the amount of resources Sunforger gives.
I also think it’s more of a get out of jail safety net card than something to have a Sunforger ‘package’ for. Like the only thing I really find myself ever getting with Sunforger is Teferi’s protection or Boros charm to not get wiped out by a nasty board wipe.
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I do love me a Sunforger in my voltron-esque equipment deck. The spell suite that it provides is quite useful to not get blown out by mass artifact destruction.
I have to say .... all of these cards are amazing..... i have a monoblack discard.... i have all the discards cards you mentioned ....you can command the dreadhord... with mind crank and sir konrad on the field.... just get out gary... grey merchant it usually a win.... in my mono black discard this is one of my win cons.... and its not hard to do... it just that all of these cards are strategies and deck specific.... they dont go in everything.
Crypt of Agadeem is maybe my favorite land. I built a Modern deck around it (winning with a lethal Profane Command and/or Lotleth Giant) after discovering it when building a janky Endrek Sahr combo deck. It's better in 60-card decks where you can get multiple copies of it (apparently Agadeem has several crypts...) but mono-black is my favorite color "combination" and Crypt of Agadeem is insane for them. Cabal Coffers is a bit easier to enable, but the ceiling on Crypt is way, WAY higher, and you can get it tapping for 10+ mana a lot faster than you can with Coffers (like, turn 4 or 5). Plus, it taps for a black mana on its own unlike Coffers.
Why do you need grand abolisher with lethal vapors? You can just hold priority and activate it a million times. Grand abolisher isn’t needed since your opponents won’t even get priority until you’ve activated it a bunch already.
I run Commander's Plate in Butcher Koz. Because anyone who doesn't run it in a colorless attack-based deck is just objectively making the deck worse by not. Protection from basically everything? Uhhh...yeah!
Just remember that command the dreadhorde deals damage, not life loss, so any noncombat damage prevention will counteract the negatives. I don't think that raises its score, but it is important, nonetheless.
Now I know you guys say gaea’s cradle isn’t really even a card cause it’s so rare. But it’s worth mentioning that ulvenwald hydra, in a creature deck, with GC, can ramp you insanely. And you get a beefy reach blocker that can swing incredibly hard late game if you give it trample. I’d give it a C+ to a B- because in a creature deck with gaea’s cradle this will be one of your best 6 mana plays.
Personally for command beacon I play it in my “orvar the all form” deck and while he is only a 4 cost commander, he just so happens to be one of the most infamous kill on sight commanders so he tends to die a lot throughout the game and the tax always adds up super fast and orvar can make copies of command beacon as basically contingency plans for later in the game
Mass hysteria is only 1 red mana though, and in a deck that definitely pops off quick with haste and benefits greater for being able to use that, it is at least an A- or B+ for me. My Garth deck with him coming back and forth into the battlefield yo do his abilities multiple times definitely benefits greatly from having mass hysteria with my other 3 haste enablers.
It also requires no enablers. Anger feels pretty bad when it's stuck in your hand with way to pitch it. I enjoy watching this content, but I think these dudes are pretty bad at card evaluation.
@@erikallen4923 though we are not perfect saying we are bad is but harsh. Mass Hysteria is a fine card but you don’t need it in red. Spending the extra mana to not give other players haste is well worth in my opinion.
@@NitpickingNerds I don't mean to be offensive, but I think you guys are shooting from the hip and not putting a lot of thought into your analysis. I still enjoy your content, but I don't find myself agreeing with your analysis and I think you often come off as overly dismissive of cards that are outside of goodstuff shells in your specific meta. I do think you are enjoyable to watch, your content is well-produced, and that you give me alternative ideas to consider. The example of mass hysteria in red, I think, is a failure to consider the decks it is playable in. I would only ever slot it into a shell where I think I'm getting the most value at the table. For example, in Grenzo Havoc Raiser, for one mana I can begin setting up card advantage and crashing in for huge damage. I would never consider running something like fervor in a deck that aggressive, it's far too slow and I get too little.
@@erikallen4923 we are put a lot of thought into every video and like to say what we think. We don’t think mass hysteria is bad but rather that the downside of giving everything haste makes it mostly not worth it in red
Bloodshift accession is an amazing card, it takes one rotation for me a least for it to be online. I have that on my Mogis decks never fails to bring me value.
sunforger feels great in decks that can cheat on the equip cost like ardenn,. then it can actually be mana positive. requires to build around is only semi-true imo. you should play plenty of cheap interaction anyway. and i think it's fun to surprise people with responses that are usually only borderline playable, because they are narrow, like deflecting palm.
Command Beacon is objectively bad with Skull Briar who wants to keep his counters and moving him to your hand or library removes the counters. I think this is an oversight but read Skullbriar and it’s pretty clear command beacon isn’t a good choice for him.
Command Beacon was super expensive before the reprint in Commander Legends. You guys' evaluation of Drown in the Loch made me have a weird thought: with all of the new versatile cards that have been printed in the last three-four years, I wonder how the overall complexity of Commander decks has increased in the past five years? It seems to me, the more options you have in your deck, the more different branches of decisions you make in any given game. Oh maybe its just a brain fart.
I have a Sefris venture/reanimate deck, and BOY did I miss Angel of the Ruins when I cut it. Put it back in immediately after we finished playing that day. Would recommend (if you can flicker/cheat it out obviously)
I feel like you guys aren’t taking into account that Mindcrank works if opponents damage opponents. I have played that card and watched my opponents mill each other.
I don't think you guys politic. A lot of these cards can be used to coerce or extort your opponents into making brash decisions which impact the game in varying ways. Take "Mass Hysteria" for example, giving all creatures haste enables your opponents to kill each other. You just have to coax them into doing so. Make up a double sided truth about the state of an opponent's board, hand, graveyard, library, and anything else. Pit the other two against that player. Offer a minor payout if they follow through.
Love me my goblin recruiter in my krenko deck , a fun lil plan b in that deck is to set up the top of my deck with 30 goblins and then use goblin charbelcher to knock someone out in one shot
I still have doubts about my playable decks, but I'm not playing any of these cards. Most of them i really wouldn't play anyways. The A grades weren't even in my colors
If you have Grand Abolisher with Lethal Vapors you can Mindslaver the next player and during their turn force them to skip their next 100000 turns. All for the low low cost of 14 mana.
sunforger has taken over so many games, while I agree it never casts things on rate, it is wrong to think of it in that way because equiping it is comparable to casting a grim tutor and thinking of it on those terms makes it more than worth it as long as you're running teferi's protection, board wipes, and spot removal. Also, the fact you can cast wraths at instant speed or tutor for teferi's protection whenever you want is absurd, especially since you play mistveil plains from being in white anyways. Also, it's absurd with sir gwyn in mardu. It's pretty sick with ardenn too, which has a ton synergy with krark or vial smasher. Even in Jeskai, Kykar likes it if you're going for more of a control theme. I'm running it in osgir and it almost always takes over the game if I'm not ready go off since my boardstates require I run a lot of interaction because he gets me targeted a lot.
@@lorinwood3300 Also, it's not always an 8 mana investment if your deck is already cheating on equip cost, but that's not even the main draw of it. It being colorless to cast and equip isn't asking a lot of up front to find and cast whatever card you need at instant speed for any situation at least once per turn cycle.
Any card rated D- and above is playable in commander. The lower the grade the more of a reason you need to play it. 😊
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Nice meme.
Today for 62 bucks CAD I got a divining top, a concordant crossroads, a tooth and nail, and an ur dragon. They were just all slightly dinged up and weren’t even damaged. Then I bought one pack and pulled a recruiter of the guard. Just wanted to share
Awesome buys
Dude, that's a haul! Congrats!
@@scottdahneke1031 best haul in a very long time. If you live in Canada I would totally check out 401 games, their moderate to hp cards are like 1/7th of the price
Wow what a great deal
@@elipetrou9308 come on every one wer
We are going to Canada 🇨🇦
A super unappreciated part of Command the Dreadhorde is "it does damage to you." instead of paying life, which is really abusable. I have a deck that runs Blessed Sanctuary, Personal Sanctuary, Righteous Aura, Purity, and The Wanderer in conjunction with lots of group slug effects and Dreadhorde Invasion. It's definitely a C+ card, but in that deck it's amazing.
Righteous Aura? Omg lol 😂
Idk i’ve won like 5 game from this card because you’ll be surprised what ppl discard or have milled to the graveyard or what died from the battlefield. Just dont be too greedy and put yourself down below 10 life and stay around to just get what you need like flying, haste, trample, menace cards to close out games and its a very nice addition to a black deck for sure
@@mibbzx1493 I have it in Teysa deck that gains life pretty easy and this card has won me a few games, multiple times bringing back 10+ creatures
I was going to make the joke I'd buy that for a dollar, but I see it's only $0.75. 😅
Using Purity with it is just plain mean.
Looks like I should be taking about 21 damage...Oh wait, I'll gain 21 life, instead.
And you have already practically reset the game like Karn.
For those who want a timestamp to certain cards. XD
2:12 Mindcrank
3:04 Mass Hysteria
4:23 Waste not
5:24 Ulvenwald hydra
6:40 Thousand-year storm
8:00 Intruder alarm
9:23 Goblin recruiter
10:48 Bloodchief ascension
12:21 Angel of the ruins
13:23 Syphon mind
15:11 Ritual of the machine
16:40 Weathered wayfarer
17:40 Command the dreadhorde
19:08 Wandering archaic
20:21 Lethal vapors
22:06 Smoke
22:52 Dack fayden
24:11 Ugin, the ineffable
25:24 Sunforger
26:48 Command beacon
28:24 Mythos of snapdax
29:25 Filth
30:16 Mystic reflection
31:31 Remand
32:15 Altar of bone
33:24 Commander's plate
34:13 Crypt of agadeem
35:41 Righteous aura
36:25 Lifeline
37:01 Drown in the loch
This was a year ago but Timestampers are mega cool
Thanks for not putting the grades next to them, Love that you timestampped tbh. You're a real one.
Wandering Archaic has been always great in my games. He gets almost never removed because everyone wants the copy ability for the case that someone can win this turn and someone else at the table wants to play counterspells.
I think too many players focus on the "what does Wandering Archaic for me now" instead of "Wandering Archaic will make sure no one else can combo off so i can win later"
We want cards to usually have an impact right away but some cards transcend that.
@@NitpickingNerds Threw Wandering Archaic in my Rakdos colorless commander deck so I can cast it for free and it feels so much better
I agree with the assessment of the card Smoke, but in its defense I'll say it's a stax piece that won't lose you friends. I used to run it in a Torbran mono red burn deck, and at times did really help stay alive against go wide strategies. There was never a time I played it where everyone at the table groaned or got upset, like you would generally see when a static or winter orb would hit the table. Smoke isn't so good that it detracts from everyone else's fun but can still be useful in certain decks.
I play righteous aura in my Jared Carthalion deck where keeping the monarchy is a high priority and uses a bunch of other deflecting palm like effects... preserving the monarchy and keeping yourself the one drawing the card is good
Queen Marchesa loves Righteous Aura.. Its doing wonders for aikido monarch decks
28:15 it’s okay, Beezy just finished having an out of body experience but he’s back now 😂
I still think Sunforger has a use and I think they are pretty narrow minded on actually using it. It’s the ‘I’m going to fish out the card that’s saving me from a board wipe or game ending spell’ not for random pieces of removal.
This, sunforger can also get your finishers or aggressive spells, it can be pretty flexible, also the +4 can be pretty intense as well
Defently, i have a boros equip deck with Ardenn & Rograkh at the helm and FunForger is one of the best equips in the deck! Just needs the right package: Angel's Grace anti instant win (best feeling vs thoracle muahah), Boros charm / teferi's protection for wipes protection, swords to plowshers / Return to dust for single target removal and the sweetest: Rebuff the wicked a freaking counterspell in white!, some protection from colors for offensive and defensive capability and throw in Mistveil plains to reuse the instants forever.
As long as you can cheat the equip cost i think its a very good equip
welp, these two shits got me to click on the video because of the Sunforger grade. Sunforger is straight a wincon, besides some of the other mentioned spells( Teferi's, Boros Charm, etc) probably the best combo I've done in my Aurelia deck is wait till the perfect time, namely when the blue player taps out, you fetch Chance for Glory and take an extra turn to kill 1 or more players. even if you don't end the game you can re-equip and tutor Angel's Grace to keep from dying. and yes, your creatures are now Indestructible for the rest of the game, which shouldn't be long. Getting alittle tired of these two giving Boros the shaft more than Josh Lee Kwai.
@@thetaoofgaming7045 Haven’t ever used it for chance for glory / angel’s grace, but that’s mostly just because my Aurellia deck is angel tribal reanimation so I’m mostly just packing the Teferi’s protection and Boros Charm along with whoever removal pieces I already have in the deck. I still think though the card is the emergency ‘shit has hit the fan button’ and in my current play group they’ve caught on that if I have it out they need to get rid of the equipment first before trying to wipe the board.
Nah it sucks in 99% of decks. It's really good in feather or Ardenn intrepid archaeologist paired with some commander that has red. But in the overwhelming majority of decks its a huge mana sink that gets your creature to become a huge target for value removal with really mediocre benefit for the turns used to play it.
Ritual of the Machine gives me super nostalgia. I've been meaning to buy one for a while, but had been putting it off. So I got one after this video! I think you guys may finally be causing a price spike with your content: I had the card stolen from my shopping cart twice on tcgplayer!
I've never even heard of this card, but it looks super fun! I started in Invasion block.
It’s an awesome card!
It’s okay, still a 4 mana conditional sorcery with a good effect. But I removed them from my decks for Bone Shards. Less fun for sure.
I'd love to see yall rate these:
-Scout's Warning
-Traxos, Scourge of Krood (in 99 as untapper/attacker)
I just took Mindcrank out of my Syr Konrad deck, because it can’t guarantee creatures, and my strategy doesn’t really center around draining life or combat damage. Ever since you guys mentioned “not good enough, Gary,” From Spongebob, thats all I can think about whenever I cut a card. 😂 I’ve been an adult for quite a while now, and I still think that show is hilarious.
I also have Crypt of Agadeem in that deck, and besides that one time my only option was to play the only two lands that came into play tapped two turns in a row when I really needed the mana it’s been pretty good. If that happened and I didn’t have enough creatures in the graveyard to take advantage of it the next turn, then I might have been a little mad. I think thats too unlikely of a situation to put the card on probation. 🤷♀️
Love syr konrad, i use him in like 4 of my black decks 🙂 if they dont remove him, he can be a nuisance
A guy in the playgroup last weekend got hammered by extra draws when he played Goblin Recruiter and then had to draw 4 cards per draw step. 😂
Gotta save a fetch
I love lethal vapors in my marchesa deck. It creates so much discussion at the table. No one wants to skip their turn to destroy it but the table starts trying to bribe each other into doing so. Very few cards have the impact it has on a game.
I’m playing it in my Sheoldred the Apocalypse deck. Super fun and interesting card imo.
Speaking of Skullbriar, Beezy, SkullyB is the cat's pajamas. I love that a commander from the OG Commander decks is still being played.
Id love to see your thoughts on a card like Portcullis. Very janky, but could be alright in like a flicker deck or something.
Yes it’s more than alright, it’s great if you play an ETB deck. Goes well with another janky card in mono black: infernal tribute.
I'd like to point out Crypt of Agadeem adds black mana for each BLACK creature in your graveyard. Couldn't get it to work consistently in my Rakdos reanimation deck despite that deck being graveyard focused, since half the creatures are red. Crypt would work great in Syr Konrad though.
Has to be a mono colored deck to work
This is pretty awesome.
I wish that there was another special series that you guys do where people send you their favorite decks, and you guys give Deck criticism. I’d like to see the rationale that goes into the big picture of that construction. Just a suggestion.
Love the show!!!
Sunforger is my baby in my Wyleth deck. Makes him huge, and I can dodge boardwipes with Boros Charm, reflect damage with Deflecting Palm, counter targeting spells with Rebuff the Wicked, all sorts of fun stuff.
Command beacon does absolute work in a muldrotha deck. Crack command beacon put her in hand, cast her, replay Beacon from graveyard for land for turn.
sunforger is still pretty good in equipment/artifact decks where you can mitigate some of it's costs. people also forget it gives +4/+0 which is actually a ridiculous power boost. boros also has some of the best instants imo, boros charm, akroma's will, deflecting swat, wild ricochet, path to exile, return to dust, settle the wreckage, these are all great cards that I'm happy to run anyway and can genuinely win the game for you. A well timed boros charm or akroma's will is instant GG often.
it definitely isn't for *every* boros deck any more though, it's too slow if your deck has no synergies.
Mythos of snapdax is interesting and my thoughts used to be the same as your guys'. However consider in those 3 colors you're up against blasphemous act, toxic deluge (with white to really support lifegain), and now the new vanquish the hoard. In these colors I'm also not often wanting to do a mass artifact wipe, as it's probably the bulk of the mardu ramp, as a 4th boardwipe, sure it's probably a great pick and i still love it as a pet card - of course it is also cheaper than all the others i've mentioned, but just thought I'd give my 2cents on why it's maybe not an A+ :D.
I know this vid is old, but I’ll go to bat for *Sunforger* in a very specific deck: *Feather the Redeemed.* She’s already an Equipment / Instant oriented Commander, and *Magnetic Theft* solves every problem Sunforger has.
Of course, this is the old “but the card is good in one specific circumstance” argument. I’m just being defensive of my favorite piece of Equipment. Good video, guys.
Ayy I’m the one submitted Goblin Recruiter, and I’m glad we had the same assessment! I’ve been playing a Krenko deck for five years, and only recently pulled out Goblin Recruiter specifically because of those badfeel scenarios of being decklocked into goblins. My biggest advice for anyone seeing this comment and thinking about it: Have Goblin Matron be the goblin you put on top, followed by Conspicuous Snoop. So you guaranteed get the Matron who can not only tutor, but give you a shuffle as well
Thousand-Year Storm is STUPID good when you flash it out before your turn. It especially works incredibly well with Ral, Storm Conduit. That's a pretty surefire way to blow your opponents out.
It’s busted with Storm-Kiln artist too, I run both in my Kalamax deck and it’s literally a two card combo
Lifeline is awesome in toxrill or elenda the dusk rose, where you want opponents creatures to die. In elenda it’s especially good since they can never wipe the board since she always makes the vampires upon death.
Lifeline is definitely niche but there are a couple other plays for it. Gisa, glorious resurrector would exile opponents creatures. Leyline of the Void would as well. I believe Liesa, Forgotten Archangel would give you the option of putting your creature in your hand or return to battlefield, while exiling opponents.
You could also run this in Wilhelt/Zombie tribal with Necroduality to double up on creatures entering from a sac outlet
I have literally never lost a game where I have resolved a lifeline (with the exception of a single time it got immediately krosan gripped).
Grenzo Dungeon Warden + Ashnod's Altar + Lifeline = an engine that will take over the game in one go around the table
You only put it in aristocrat decks or combo decks where you are going to get the most value, and when it does, you pop off.
Old spongebob is off the damn wall.
HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO TEACH YOU THIS LESSON OLD MAN??
The only card I disagree with its rating is Drown in the Loch. If B stands for build-around, then B tier it is, in strategies than fill graveyards this card is really solid. Loved this video btw, made me discover a few cards and remember some gems like Mythos of Snapdax existed
One more note on Mindcrank - in more casual settings, in a deck where you want stuff in your opponents' graveyards, it can be a fun include. E.g. it's in my "The Mimeoplasm" deck.
That is a solid in a casual setting 😊
Commander's Plate is a D, unless you're playing Ardenn as your commander. Then it's A. Partner with Falthis and it's A+, but you're also a crazy person for building this deck in the first place.
Righteous aura has saved me from commander damage many times. Instead of dying to a huge voltron, I pay 2 life and prevent the rest.
I turned a Craterhoof into a 1/1 bird with Mystic Reflection. One of the most satisfying plays I've ever made.
Command Beacon *does* give Skullbriar decks a spell-less out to -1/-1 counters on their commander.
I've never seen lifeline before but that card looks sweet, obv symmetrical isn't great, but the card seems super strong in any sort of sacrifice deck, and notably board wipes still function if you do reach a point where your opponents are getting more value than you out of it. It seems at least interesting, maybe even good, and I'm excited to try it regardless.
An underrated card i like is Medicine Bag, goes in pretty much any deck and can save your creature/commander by giving it regenerate by discarding a card. So many ppl run removal/board wipes that you need ways like heroic intervention/snakeskin veil, mizzit skin style cards to keep your creatures alive to try and keep board advantage
Command Beacon is SO sick in Muldrotha to dominate a lategame. You start looping it and your opponents can't keep her off the table. I need to dust off my Muldrotha deck lol
Thieving Skydiver will at least do a great "minus dack to steal your sol ring T2/T3" impression! also hijacking this video to ask you guys: what do you think about devastating mastery? I feel the 4 mana cost isnt that bad since at my pod one person getting 2 of his things to replay is managable (ofc there is fringe cases where everyone goes off right away but its rare)
I play at low power tables but I like it! I am the type to play a raw planar cleansing though, so getting a cleansing with potential upside is worth it to me
Altar of Bone's one true home is in Atla Palani. Sac an egg, hit a beater, find a combo piece. Such a good staple for that specific commander
Sunforger is A+, you can search and use it for so many different reponses - Teferi Protection, Counterflux, Dovin's Veto, Chaos Warp, dmg from red spells, indestructibility from white spells, lifegain, blink, many type of exile creature - best in deck which allow in many ways attach it for free
I'm sorry but this a 5 mana tutor in an equipment deck made for it. So while it is good for budget decks, if we are playing for power or you want EFFICIENT tutors, this is worse than diabolic tutor at 4 mana. Outside of equipment decks this is an 8 mana tutor
B+, its good but only works at his full potential in a very specific boros deck, in other color combinations there are waaay better options, but if you are building a boros equipment deck its a must have
Thanks for mentioning the ritual! Spike incoming! But I still don't know where to put it, as well as the altar...
Righteous Aura is actually super solid in my mono-white lifegain deck, stops voltron decks from killing you. I would highly recommend people try it out in those kind of decks, very cheap $$$ wise too.
Also blightsteel collossus effectively hits you for 2 life.
It's actually my birthday today hahaha love you guys!
Love you too
Ritual of the Machine started rocketing since mentioning it. It was $8 on the low the day this episode came out and it's sitting at $18 on the low now lol
I saw a note that you were looking for ideas for cards to grade, but when I clicked on Discord I had no idea where to submit a card. Too bad, I think I had a good one! 😈
You can share still
@@NitpickingNerds I was going to see how you rated Baleful Strix. I have it in my artifacts deck and it’s always relevant. Maybe too situational?
If I run Altar of Bone, I usually run Viridian Emissary and Veteran Explorer. They're great sacrifice targets and sacrificing the Explorer is a politics play.
Thoughts on Sunforger in Feather? I hear alot of debate back and forth and I was going to try building my deck more towards in this direction to see how it feels. You're actively grabbing weaker cards on average, but the cards can be reuccurred.
Not sure if Magnetic Pull is meme or the real deal in Sunforger Feather package
You can still play Weathered Wayfarer with green too. If you have a low curve and not a lot of land you don't play much land ramp cards. It's more dorks and rocks, or just dorks. I have used it in my Abzan deck where turn 1 I played dork, turn 2 fetchland, don't crack, wayfarer, turn 3 crack fetch, hold priority, activate wayfarer, search Gaea's Cradle. It was a good game.
I feel bad for elesh norn, seems like you guys love coming up with ways to kill her lol.
Only because she’s good! 😂
Righteous Aura is much, MUCH better then you are giving it credit for. It basically makes you immortal to damage. Put it in a control deck, especially one that plays at instant speed, and for two mana you never have to worry about commander damage, fatties, whatever. It allows you to worry specifically about go wide tokens and combos, as you can ignore everything else. Even protects you from burn, including your own cards like Heartless Hidetsugu or Command the Dreadhorde. This, of course, ignores playing it in a lifegain deck, where the 2 life cost becomes negligible and it makes you immune to commander damage. I'd try this one out before you dunk it.
To wit, this is a rebalanced Forcefield, but not a million dollars, prevents the damage entirely, and is an enchantment.
Old video I know, but wgat I always find funny about Ugin the ineffable: He works in Eldrazi, which considering the lore is just so weird.
Wandering Archaic belongs in a deck like Shalai, where she can protect it and people will need to cast stuff to try to remove your Hatebears or Planeswalkers, again... Board wipes answer it cleanly, but that is the main weakness of Selesnya.
Whats the problem with Lifeline?
Sure anybody can activate it but only creatures from your graveyard are coming back
Edit: If there are any erratas on cards you should tell us, no errata Lifeline would be awesome
Y'all's energy rn is amazing! Thanks for being you
i would argue thousand year storm is a b- as it has a deck where it gets put into play every time and can even be put in at instant speed. the deck is keranos polymorph. when you get it out it wins you the game. the only bad part of the deck is you can’t play creatures or other enchantments but it means you can win fairly regularly
Command the dreadhorde is way better than you think. It doesn't just bring back creatures it also brings back Planeswalkers making it great for super friends or in rare cases bring a Planeswalker back after using their ultimate.
Sunforger is great in a Feather the Redeemed deck. It becomes 5 Mana: "Draw" an instant/sorcery from your deck. Plus you get a free cast of that spell!
Is it "Jam in every deck" good any more? No... But the decks that can use it are great!
I don't like sunforger in Feather as much as I used to for one reason. All the targeted instants/sorceries that would go back to your hand are 1-2 CMC. You're paying 8 mana (the first time) to tutor a 1 mana card and cast a one mana card. Is it bad? No, it's not terrible if you get more than 1 use out of it. But I think Sunforger is more effective in decks like Syr Gwyn and Rograkh/Ardenn, where you can bypass the equip cost. 5 mana the first time and 2 mana every other time, and tutoring for 3-4 mana spells instead of 1-2 mana ones makes Sunforger a house.
need to tutor and cast a counter spell in Jeskai? No Problem ....run some b/w or b/r counters....blink...yep?
@@Explosive371 it find the tutor ability should be kept as a secondary ability to either get out of a sticky situation or if you don't have anything else to do. i was tempted to take it out from feather, but i find the +4 does matter. having a 7/3 flyer with attack buffs like double strike or double power can end games pretty quickly.
Sunforger does work in my Aurelia the war leader deck. It's not the 1st equipment I go for but if it gets to the long game it's great. Able to tutor for settle the wreckage or boros charm or Teferis protection
I use it in elsha it csn also tutor out counterspells. No one ever sees the counterspell out of nowhere.
Can confirm. Crypt of Agadeem performs well in my Shadowborn Apostles deck.
Alter of Bone is good for Naya decks. Most Naya decks have some kind of token making and whats one less 1/1 gonnna matter? Red also has similar effects like Transmorgify. Creature based combos will like this card too. Not saying its an auto include in any Green/White deck but it fits its role well.
The one home I ever found for Wandering Archaic was Belbe, where having strong 5-6 mana colorless spells to drop on turn 2 is great. It’s not as good as 6 mana Ugin or Immortal Sun but it does work, especially since early on when you might get it out a lot of people are still casting ramp spells. I mean, too often those games end too fast to really pay off if you land a turn 3 Torment if Hailfire for 7, but Archaic was still good.
Wandering archaic is a superstar in my obeka creature copy deck. That time An opponent tried to counter a spell and I got to ask him would you like to pay 6 for that with my 2 copies and the original wandering on the board.
I'd say if you cannot reliably reduce the equip cost on sunforger, then putting it low makes sense. But as soon you have any card or commander that can reduce that cost (Zirda and Ardenn are the big two), then it goes from too slow to a game winning board piece. The most important use for it imo is not for removal or card advantage but protection or an alpha strike. If you aren't using sunforger for something like Akroma's Will or Teferi's protection then most other equipment will serve you better.
I'm not sure I disagree with your rating, but I feel like you missed the main point of Righteous Aura.
The big payout is in a Lifegain deck, to protect you from Voltron decks that kill with commander damage. This converts commander damage into mundane life loss, and doesn't even have to target.
That being said, it is extremely niche, and may get cut even in its ideal deck, so I might want to bump it to D-, but not much higher.
As an Izzet Veyran player Thousand-Year Storm feels like my best card in that deck but i do understand the point
The tidbit’s my favorite part!! Are you kidding
Sunforger D-? i dont think so. Okey it's not for every deck but in the right deck is just an A, some people say "but it's 5 mana for just tutoring 1-2 cmc spells at the end of the day, not worthy" and i think 5 mana for a repetible tutor is fucking dope, you can protect your stuff, you can blow up creatures, buff your creatures... And you can just break it in Feather, it's incredible the amount of resources Sunforger gives.
D- on FunForger? I get its kinda slow, but with the right 'mander then it just opens up your deck
I also think it’s more of a get out of jail safety net card than something to have a Sunforger ‘package’ for. Like the only thing I really find myself ever getting with Sunforger is Teferi’s protection or Boros charm to not get wiped out by a nasty board wipe.
I do love me a Sunforger in my voltron-esque equipment deck. The spell suite that it provides is quite useful to not get blown out by mass artifact destruction.
I would like to hear your thoughts on Dispatch and Suspend. Those seem very good to me. Not quite swords level but close.
I have to say .... all of these cards are amazing..... i have a monoblack discard.... i have all the discards cards you mentioned ....you can command the dreadhord... with mind crank and sir konrad on the field.... just get out gary... grey merchant it usually a win.... in my mono black discard this is one of my win cons.... and its not hard to do... it just that all of these cards are strategies and deck specific.... they dont go in everything.
Crypt of Agadeem is maybe my favorite land. I built a Modern deck around it (winning with a lethal Profane Command and/or Lotleth Giant) after discovering it when building a janky Endrek Sahr combo deck. It's better in 60-card decks where you can get multiple copies of it (apparently Agadeem has several crypts...) but mono-black is my favorite color "combination" and Crypt of Agadeem is insane for them.
Cabal Coffers is a bit easier to enable, but the ceiling on Crypt is way, WAY higher, and you can get it tapping for 10+ mana a lot faster than you can with Coffers (like, turn 4 or 5). Plus, it taps for a black mana on its own unlike Coffers.
You guys have me craving Dack Fayden more every month.
Me too. Now I wanna build a niv miz deck.
😏
Dack fayden is really that good, my personal favorite planeswalker, Nothing feels better then turn sol ring Turn 2 dack, steal a sol ring,
I need him for my coin flip deck but hes 20 buck 😤
Sunforger is cracked in a Syr Gwyn deck. My play group is mostly mid power level and its a stupid powerful effect with that 0 equip cost
Thousand year storm has one me so many games. That’s a fair rating though if you don’t build around it.
Why do you need grand abolisher with lethal vapors? You can just hold priority and activate it a million times. Grand abolisher isn’t needed since your opponents won’t even get priority until you’ve activated it a bunch already.
I run Commander's Plate in Butcher Koz. Because anyone who doesn't run it in a colorless attack-based deck is just objectively making the deck worse by not. Protection from basically everything? Uhhh...yeah!
An 18 wheeler worth of wheels lol 😆 great video guys
Just remember that command the dreadhorde deals damage, not life loss, so any noncombat damage prevention will counteract the negatives. I don't think that raises its score, but it is important, nonetheless.
I mean, if your instants or sorceries have lifelink, it just offsets the life loss, so... ;)
@@tmakalpha1 I just play the wanderer and get everything back from the bin
@@TheWoodler ah yes that old combo when WAR was in Standard
Now I know you guys say gaea’s cradle isn’t really even a card cause it’s so rare. But it’s worth mentioning that ulvenwald hydra, in a creature deck, with GC, can ramp you insanely. And you get a beefy reach blocker that can swing incredibly hard late game if you give it trample. I’d give it a C+ to a B- because in a creature deck with gaea’s cradle this will be one of your best 6 mana plays.
Personally for command beacon I play it in my “orvar the all form” deck and while he is only a 4 cost commander, he just so happens to be one of the most infamous kill on sight commanders so he tends to die a lot throughout the game and the tax always adds up super fast and orvar can make copies of command beacon as basically contingency plans for later in the game
Mass hysteria is only 1 red mana though, and in a deck that definitely pops off quick with haste and benefits greater for being able to use that, it is at least an A- or B+ for me. My Garth deck with him coming back and forth into the battlefield yo do his abilities multiple times definitely benefits greatly from having mass hysteria with my other 3 haste enablers.
It also requires no enablers. Anger feels pretty bad when it's stuck in your hand with way to pitch it.
I enjoy watching this content, but I think these dudes are pretty bad at card evaluation.
@@erikallen4923 though we are not perfect saying we are bad is but harsh. Mass Hysteria is a fine card but you don’t need it in red. Spending the extra mana to not give other players haste is well worth in my opinion.
@@NitpickingNerds I don't mean to be offensive, but I think you guys are shooting from the hip and not putting a lot of thought into your analysis.
I still enjoy your content, but I don't find myself agreeing with your analysis and I think you often come off as overly dismissive of cards that are outside of goodstuff shells in your specific meta.
I do think you are enjoyable to watch, your content is well-produced, and that you give me alternative ideas to consider.
The example of mass hysteria in red, I think, is a failure to consider the decks it is playable in. I would only ever slot it into a shell where I think I'm getting the most value at the table. For example, in Grenzo Havoc Raiser, for one mana I can begin setting up card advantage and crashing in for huge damage. I would never consider running something like fervor in a deck that aggressive, it's far too slow and I get too little.
@@erikallen4923 we are put a lot of thought into every video and like to say what we think. We don’t think mass hysteria is bad but rather that the downside of giving everything haste makes it mostly not worth it in red
Alter of bone sacrifices a token to tutor for 2 mana, white green tutor is solid af..
Sunforgwe with effects to skip the equipment cost I quite potent
Bloodshift accession is an amazing card, it takes one rotation for me a least for it to be online. I have that on my Mogis decks never fails to bring me value.
I love sunforger in my elsha deck. I can cast it off the top equip on my turn and now i have instant backup counterspells and removal.
sunforger feels great in decks that can cheat on the equip cost like ardenn,. then it can actually be mana positive. requires to build around is only semi-true imo. you should play plenty of cheap interaction anyway. and i think it's fun to surprise people with responses that are usually only borderline playable, because they are narrow, like deflecting palm.
Waste Not had me thinking, imagine if Eruth have access to black...
I have Goblin Recruiter in my Rakdos deck so I can just stack the best few left and pull them all out at once with Muxus.
Mythos of snapdax in my Edgar Markov deck?.... I'm tweaking mine now, and I need at least one boardwipe. So... I'll probably give it a shot.
Command Beacon is objectively bad with Skull Briar who wants to keep his counters and moving him to your hand or library removes the counters. I think this is an oversight but read Skullbriar and it’s pretty clear command beacon isn’t a good choice for him.
Command Beacon was super expensive before the reprint in Commander Legends. You guys' evaluation of Drown in the Loch made me have a weird thought: with all of the new versatile cards that have been printed in the last three-four years, I wonder how the overall complexity of Commander decks has increased in the past five years? It seems to me, the more options you have in your deck, the more different branches of decisions you make in any given game. Oh maybe its just a brain fart.
I have a Sefris venture/reanimate deck, and BOY did I miss Angel of the Ruins when I cut it. Put it back in immediately after we finished playing that day. Would recommend (if you can flicker/cheat it out obviously)
I feel like you guys aren’t taking into account that Mindcrank works if opponents damage opponents. I have played that card and watched my opponents mill each other.
I don't think you guys politic. A lot of these cards can be used to coerce or extort your opponents into making brash decisions which impact the game in varying ways. Take "Mass Hysteria" for example, giving all creatures haste enables your opponents to kill each other. You just have to coax them into doing so. Make up a double sided truth about the state of an opponent's board, hand, graveyard, library, and anything else. Pit the other two against that player. Offer a minor payout if they follow through.
Love me my goblin recruiter in my krenko deck , a fun lil plan b in that deck is to set up the top of my deck with 30 goblins and then use goblin charbelcher to knock someone out in one shot
That’s spicy
@@NitpickingNerds 🔥 🔥 🔥
Imlact tremors, stalking vengeance, Ashnods altar and dictate of the twin gods is fun to see go off when all the pieces are there
At the rate you crank out content, you should try for an energy drink or coffee endorsement :)
Second
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We don’t drink coffee or drink energy drinks
@@NitpickingNerds Well not with that attitude! :)
Using Mystic Reflection on an Ur-Dragon to turn it into a Sculptor of Winter. Very satisfying. Very confused dragon.
I still have doubts about my playable decks, but I'm not playing any of these cards. Most of them i really wouldn't play anyways. The A grades weren't even in my colors
If you have Grand Abolisher with Lethal Vapors you can Mindslaver the next player and during their turn force them to skip their next 100000 turns. All for the low low cost of 14 mana.
How to use Remand:
1. Get big mana
2. Cast Approach of the Second Sun
3.Cast Remand targeting AotSS on the stack
4. Recast AotSS
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sunforger has taken over so many games, while I agree it never casts things on rate, it is wrong to think of it in that way because equiping it is comparable to casting a grim tutor and thinking of it on those terms makes it more than worth it as long as you're running teferi's protection, board wipes, and spot removal. Also, the fact you can cast wraths at instant speed or tutor for teferi's protection whenever you want is absurd, especially since you play mistveil plains from being in white anyways. Also, it's absurd with sir gwyn in mardu. It's pretty sick with ardenn too, which has a ton synergy with krark or vial smasher. Even in Jeskai, Kykar likes it if you're going for more of a control theme. I'm running it in osgir and it almost always takes over the game if I'm not ready go off since my boardstates require I run a lot of interaction because he gets me targeted a lot.
Yeah sunforger is ⛽
8 mana to cast a 4 mana spell is not profit. You would be better off going for blink effects imo
@@lorinwood3300 it's not just to cast any spell, it's to cast the exact spell you need... and it's reusable
@@lorinwood3300 Also, it's not always an 8 mana investment if your deck is already cheating on equip cost, but that's not even the main draw of it. It being colorless to cast and equip isn't asking a lot of up front to find and cast whatever card you need at instant speed for any situation at least once per turn cycle.
Thank you for mentioning the mistveil hack...it doesn't get nuff love.