So basically she's worse than Epics from Damage numbers, definitely not worth especially not considering you need both Champs to fully use her skills. Ill wait for the next Fusion or maybe even Christmas
I was 50/50 struggle for a reason with this fusion, THANK YOU for pushing me over the edge on I dont care side. there is no point where a worthless champ paired with a slightly less worthless champ makes sense to me, so now I get to skip another fusion and another guaranteed champ... I have 42 sacreds begging for a reason to pull and they refuse to give me the reason.
great video. if this was the other way round and she hit like Georgid, they would nerf her before it went live. now that she's comparable to a rare, they won't do anything. That's why most people hate Plarium's decisions.
@@thebeast12333 Both of them; not singular. Yes, this is another waste of time/resources for F2P. These vids are done by creators; they get free shit all the time. IF you could somehow get both of t hem, then yes, decent for F2P.
@@PhattyasmoWhat on earth are you actually on about? I don't understand what content creators getting stuff has to do with anything. This is bad fusion and most definitely not decent for f2p. Also you said nothing about getting both of them. The amount of resources that will take makes it even worse for f2p. All in all this is just terrible.
Scratch thanks man for not just doing your guide on the ultimate damage build. I appreciate your review on the every day joe schmo build. It's more likely how most of us would build her. Love your content!
The couple was marketed as a blender option. Compare the couple to the OG blender pair skull crown and sinesha. I’m pretty sure they will out perform the new legos then send that to plarium and tell them they need a big damage buff
Comparing her with Elhain [Queen] 💀Baba Bronko compared Her dmg to Kael 💀Her brother carries the duo, but he is a lockout champion, who knows what a horse and a carriage Plarium will charge for obtaining him.
The simple fact she is comparable to Elhain says all I need to hear, all their Halloween events and decks, trash and this fusion seems like a waste of resources
Why do they keep releasing champs in 2's? It only makes it much easier for whales/spenders to get these champs. As a F2P, I get screwed every time. Siphi/Rotos, Tarashka, etc. I'm just screwed from the get-go. I just got Arbiter, and I'm already waaay behind, gear-wise and champ-wise.
Thanks for doing the showcase. My reasoning to do the fusion was the permanent lockdown on the doom tower waves. However, given any reason not to do a fusion, I'll gladly skip it.
Thank you for the honest showcase. Really pushed my decision to not go for her. She looks cool and all but I already have good champs in sacred order so she's even useful for faction wars.
i skipped the oktoberfest fusion and now this fusion is garbage aswell... if i skip 2 fusions in a row might as well just quit i mean with the hydra garbage as well...
Crazy with all the idea's people flooded the comment sections for possible fusion champs this is what they decided to go with 100% disappointment 😞 smh.
No idea why, but already got enough resources for the next fusion (by just playing ^^) - so I will go for her, because, I have enough resources and will get more resources along the line - the worst thing that can happen, is the have a nice looking (yes I think she looks amazing) Legendary - if you know what you need for each fusion, it does become no longer exhausting, but simply something you do in the background ^^ So, no reason to not go after her ^^ (but, she does not hit at all ^^') But for Arena, I will most likely stay with my current team (not planning on ever changing it): Arbiter, Freyja (dmg built), Thor, and Loki (fast, high accuracy and close to 100k HP), PS: For everyone who is interested: 6-8k Energy, 6 Sacreds, 20-30 mio. Silver and you are good to go; if you are lacking Silver, run 50 runs (double runs) on spider [stage 20, with food] and you are good to go - that is the way how I managed to do all my fusions since Wixwell; depending on the necessaries for leveling up and upgrading Rares and Epics (just see what is necessary and to a little bit or preparation for that, you will get this very easily without much effort]
But how can you be so off on Ressources if you did all the fusions since wixwell 😢😮you need way more energy than 6-8k, you need at least 8k for all dungeon tournaments, you need 15-20 million silver PER artifact enh. You need alot of ancient shards for the champion chase, if you don't have tons of fragment summons. After that at least 2 champion trainings, which either cost you silver or energy. So if you're overflowing in Ressources, yea easily done, but if you're overflowing in Ressources like that, the champion gives you 0 value, but a pretty vault guardian. I'd advice anyone who can't do every fusion to skip this one, video shows how bad she is.
@maxr9380 Not really; you get a few free refills every day as well, which accumulates enough - at this point, I only have to do auto runs, and even have 'free' days, where I can farm spider dungeon for more silver - fusions are very easy that way and not exhausting at all - with the amount I wrote, you get easily through the fusions. The resources, you get over time are enough to do every fusion; not saying this one is particularly good, but I have so much resources already, that I can easily do it - so why would I not do so; the design looks nice and that is already enough - furthermore, I have an opportunity for enhancing my champions and finally booking them as well and farm/enhance my gear
@@Theaphilius_Mythology_Channel but why are you yapping so much? Either you're not talking about raid fusions, you're playing stupid or actually, for what ever reason, think, that the daily energy is enough for a whole fusion. You get 3 refills everyday = 390e +130e if full, every second day you get another 130e for free. 520 energy a day isn't enough to do a fusion (maybe + 100 for some advanced dailys). It MIGHT be CLOSELY enough, if you have all shops full with energy and saved multiple thousand energy in the bank, but otherwise you can't do a fusion without saving energy or using gems to refill, not even subjectively, just objectively. 2x dungeon divers = 10k energy 4x dungeon tournys) = at least 2k each. Thats 18k energy. You need at least 120e for iron twins a day, at least 15 for daily. If you are late game or p2w and you can skip a whole dungeon divers and another dungeon tourny, by doing another summon rush for the rare / fragments, then you might be able to do the fusion with 6k saved, otherwise there is objectively no way:D Ive done enough fusions to know, that the shards aint the problem anymore, but energy is, at least if youre actively playing the game. Thats why I said, its an easy skip for anybody that can't do every fusion without blinking an eye (enough energy / gems), because the champion is almost valueless, even for newer players.
Complete transparency, very few fusions are truly "worth" the grind time or the resource burn. If you have a champion who placed 60% drop defense, that 60% is going to be the same coming from someone else. Same deal for all the skills. Obviously there are outliers, such as unique quirks, but even then there are very few must haves. I have Lydia, so my Sacred Order lineup was already good enough to get the job done. I approach fusions with a grain of salt. Usually I can complete around 60% with just my normal play style. At that point I decide if I want to put any effort into the last little bit. The last fusion I purposely went for and completed was Wixwell. This looks like an easy skip
The first Halloween champions that came out for this game were awesome ever since then they've been very......meh. Dracula / LMA got a buff so they are actually really good now but that's it. Imo
Yep i already know this Gretel not worth it,i mean going for only her not worth time and resources! Maybe if you have enough to go for Hansel too,but definatly not gona be Meta champs for Any kind of arena pvp!
but elhain has attack boost and crit dmg from soul and does not have ignore deff and a2 reset and turn meter fill...they are not comparable imo...gretel way better...but still underwhelming...
@adambah5867 The total stats and gear sets are all that matters, bro. The soul does nothing if it is not a dmg one. And gretel has turn meter boost as well.
@SkratchPlays that stands. My point is that u can get higher stats on maxed out Gretel then Elhain with the same gear so perhaps more dmg? and Gretel has better kit
@@adambah5867 But the fusion doesn't come with a soul. Yes you can gain extra attack and crit dmg from it but that doesn't mean she will rock. Weak ass multipliers
So many signs this fusion should be skipped: 1) You lack of enthusiasm over her lol 2) She hits softer than a rare! 3) This fusion is a old fashion fusion..... Naw naw! And the list goes on but those 3 reasons are more than enough for me to want to skip this fusion lol
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So basically she's worse than Epics from Damage numbers, definitely not worth especially not considering you need both Champs to fully use her skills. Ill wait for the next Fusion or maybe even Christmas
Must collect the Pokémon
Gotta catch them all
Trash champ. Not even worth it. Even collectors would pass on this.
@@granitegreg7883 I'm 'collecting' her :)
What I'm giving thanks for during Thanksgiving: Skratch testing lame fusions so I don't waste my resources.
I need to see what the duo can do before I can make my decision. Thanks for the showcase.
@@dd_zzero6827 have a video on them live.
Exactly like Abbess w different clothes and hair. Same weapon and stance.
Isn't Abbess' crossbow held in both hands instead of one hand though?
I think you mean Arbalester.
@@zkeletonz001 yup her too:)
Lady Etessa as well
Thanks a lot for the video brother the rare vs legendary comparison was wild hahah keep it up 👍
They might buff her right after people skip her.. then they will put her on a 15x. That would be typical.
Dang... I need to break out Elhain again.
Perfect opportunity to bring out a new Lego hound to pair with the massively nerfed Packmaster … but we get this instead.
Packmaster didn't get nerfed at all, taunt wasnt even nerfed, hydra just got buffed. He's good enough without a solid dog
I was 50/50 struggle for a reason with this fusion, THANK YOU for pushing me over the edge on I dont care side. there is no point where a worthless champ paired with a slightly less worthless champ makes sense to me, so now I get to skip another fusion and another guaranteed champ... I have 42 sacreds begging for a reason to pull and they refuse to give me the reason.
great video. if this was the other way round and she hit like Georgid, they would nerf her before it went live. now that she's comparable to a rare, they won't do anything. That's why most people hate Plarium's decisions.
Hydra wixwell and taunt decisions were good 🎉
They have started doing RARE fusions...😂
As a F2P, I feel like this would be decent, but either way, I'm screwed compared to P2P, as always.
@@Phattyasmo I myself is a FTP and she sucks everywhere in the game.
@@Phattyasmo Why would this be decent for f2p? If anything it's even worse for f2p because it's a waste of resources when rares do more damage.
@@thebeast12333 Both of them; not singular. Yes, this is another waste of time/resources for F2P. These vids are done by creators; they get free shit all the time. IF you could somehow get both of t hem, then yes, decent for F2P.
@@PhattyasmoWhat on earth are you actually on about? I don't understand what content creators getting stuff has to do with anything. This is bad fusion and most definitely not decent for f2p. Also you said nothing about getting both of them. The amount of resources that will take makes it even worse for f2p. All in all this is just terrible.
Love comparison with Elhain 😂😂 and i was stressing if im gonna have shards, qq
No joke that was so fking brutal 🤣
Plarium is laughing SO HARD right now 😂😂😂
I can hear them laughing in Israel here in a soubdproof basement
Scratch thanks man for not just doing your guide on the ultimate damage build. I appreciate your review on the every day joe schmo build. It's more likely how most of us would build her. Love your content!
Thanks, brother! I got you.
The couple was marketed as a blender option. Compare the couple to the OG blender pair skull crown and sinesha. I’m pretty sure they will out perform the new legos then send that to plarium and tell them they need a big damage buff
Yes, most likely, they will not be better. The blender team is weak sauce in this meta anyway
Comparing her with Elhain [Queen] 💀Baba Bronko compared Her dmg to Kael 💀Her brother carries the duo, but he is a lockout champion, who knows what a horse and a carriage Plarium will charge for obtaining him.
She’s worse than rares! Easy skip. Thanks for the play test as always!
I like the design. I will go for her
Wait for Xmas this is another skip
No new champion will be worth it in Raid. If it were, it would only get nerfed later. So accept where you’re at now.
Thanks man... on to the Thanksgiving Fusion for me.
The simple fact she is comparable to Elhain says all I need to hear, all their Halloween events and decks, trash and this fusion seems like a waste of resources
guess I'm waiting for Christmas and hope it's an awesome one. I have the resources, but it will just make Christmas fusion easier
Lady Valkiry
Why do they keep releasing champs in 2's? It only makes it much easier for whales/spenders to get these champs. As a F2P, I get screwed every time. Siphi/Rotos, Tarashka, etc. I'm just screwed from the get-go. I just got Arbiter, and I'm already waaay behind, gear-wise and champ-wise.
Thanks for doing the showcase. My reasoning to do the fusion was the permanent lockdown on the doom tower waves.
However, given any reason not to do a fusion, I'll gladly skip it.
I’m assuming you don’t have Armanz. He can easily lock down all doom tower stages.
@@Jimbojoebob No such luck. Good fusions only happen when I'm not playing.
Thank you for the honest showcase. Really pushed my decision to not go for her. She looks cool and all but I already have good champs in sacred order so she's even useful for faction wars.
Thank you Skratch, you save me weeks of useless grinding.
i skipped the oktoberfest fusion and now this fusion is garbage aswell... if i skip 2 fusions in a row might as well just quit i mean with the hydra garbage as well...
Thank you so much, %100 skip
Crazy with all the idea's people flooded the comment sections for possible fusion champs this is what they decided to go with 100% disappointment 😞 smh.
No idea why, but already got enough resources for the next fusion (by just playing ^^) - so I will go for her, because, I have enough resources and will get more resources along the line - the worst thing that can happen, is the have a nice looking (yes I think she looks amazing) Legendary - if you know what you need for each fusion, it does become no longer exhausting, but simply something you do in the background ^^
So, no reason to not go after her ^^ (but, she does not hit at all ^^')
But for Arena, I will most likely stay with my current team (not planning on ever changing it): Arbiter, Freyja (dmg built), Thor, and Loki (fast, high accuracy and close to 100k HP),
PS: For everyone who is interested: 6-8k Energy, 6 Sacreds, 20-30 mio. Silver and you are good to go; if you are lacking Silver, run 50 runs (double runs) on spider [stage 20, with food] and you are good to go - that is the way how I managed to do all my fusions since Wixwell; depending on the necessaries for leveling up and upgrading Rares and Epics (just see what is necessary and to a little bit or preparation for that, you will get this very easily without much effort]
But how can you be so off on Ressources if you did all the fusions since wixwell 😢😮you need way more energy than 6-8k, you need at least 8k for all dungeon tournaments, you need 15-20 million silver PER artifact enh. You need alot of ancient shards for the champion chase, if you don't have tons of fragment summons.
After that at least 2 champion trainings, which either cost you silver or energy. So if you're overflowing in Ressources, yea easily done, but if you're overflowing in Ressources like that, the champion gives you 0 value, but a pretty vault guardian.
I'd advice anyone who can't do every fusion to skip this one, video shows how bad she is.
@maxr9380 Not really; you get a few free refills every day as well, which accumulates enough - at this point, I only have to do auto runs, and even have 'free' days, where I can farm spider dungeon for more silver - fusions are very easy that way and not exhausting at all - with the amount I wrote, you get easily through the fusions.
The resources, you get over time are enough to do every fusion; not saying this one is particularly good, but I have so much resources already, that I can easily do it - so why would I not do so; the design looks nice and that is already enough - furthermore, I have an opportunity for enhancing my champions and finally booking them as well and farm/enhance my gear
@@Theaphilius_Mythology_Channel but why are you yapping so much? Either you're not talking about raid fusions, you're playing stupid or actually, for what ever reason, think, that the daily energy is enough for a whole fusion. You get 3 refills everyday = 390e +130e if full, every second day you get another 130e for free. 520 energy a day isn't enough to do a fusion (maybe + 100 for some advanced dailys). It MIGHT be CLOSELY enough, if you have all shops full with energy and saved multiple thousand energy in the bank, but otherwise you can't do a fusion without saving energy or using gems to refill, not even subjectively, just objectively. 2x dungeon divers = 10k energy 4x dungeon tournys) = at least 2k each. Thats 18k energy. You need at least 120e for iron twins a day, at least 15 for daily.
If you are late game or p2w and you can skip a whole dungeon divers and another dungeon tourny, by doing another summon rush for the rare / fragments, then you might be able to do the fusion with 6k saved, otherwise there is objectively no way:D Ive done enough fusions to know, that the shards aint the problem anymore, but energy is, at least if youre actively playing the game.
Thats why I said, its an easy skip for anybody that can't do every fusion without blinking an eye (enough energy / gems), because the champion is almost valueless, even for newer players.
Goddamn thor was a monster. I agree skratch, I do regret skipping him.
Skipped so many this year lol only got esotrid and Thor lol
Rip wixwell and armanz
Complete transparency, very few fusions are truly "worth" the grind time or the resource burn. If you have a champion who placed 60% drop defense, that 60% is going to be the same coming from someone else. Same deal for all the skills. Obviously there are outliers, such as unique quirks, but even then there are very few must haves. I have Lydia, so my Sacred Order lineup was already good enough to get the job done. I approach fusions with a grain of salt. Usually I can complete around 60% with just my normal play style. At that point I decide if I want to put any effort into the last little bit. The last fusion I purposely went for and completed was Wixwell. This looks like an easy skip
Her damage is low but she is going to cycle quicker because of the turn meter boost.
I think thats the most dissapointing event i ever had in raid;( i really dig this halloween lore…. But those multiplayers are brutal;(
Skipping for Xmas fusion....who know maybe have enough to do 2 in a row
Skratch please do a video on vulkanos vs ashnar, show to plarium that mythical is super trash. For me vulkanos is already on par with gizmak.
Cool… another Maranix. Plarium stop diluting the leggo pool with gold frame rares
I actually look forward to the bad fusion events.
Be grateful. Plarium gave us a skippable event so we can relax
Pulls ellhain out of vault 👌
Maybe they work well as a pair, and can overcome this issue?
kudos on the average stats :)
Amazing oportunity to farm shogun
I Slip the Fusion.But Elhain make more damage against Hydra Heads die to her seulbonus against Bosses.
The first Halloween champions that came out for this game were awesome ever since then they've been very......meh. Dracula / LMA got a buff so they are actually really good now but that's it. Imo
rare comparison is fun
time to farm more shards and skip this trash
Yeah, and get her later on x2 anyway)))
@@evgenianovikova3596 true, like my 4 Ukko's lol
New mythical showcase asap pls 😂
Coming tomorrow
@ Thank u 🙏
The duo is quite good in normal arena.Dont know if I can get hansel.
oof worse than athel
you should do this more often
😂 Dominate Arena 😂 How????
wtf?! Elhain, a rare champ does more damage than a legendary at similar stats?!
Im sticking with my rhonda
COMPARABLE to a RARE. damn
WTF? I see Elhain doing about 1/2 the damage that Gretel was doing. Take a look at the numbers from this video.
Elhain hits twice
How do they let this happen time and time again surely they want us to do these events. Im starting to think they WANT us to save resources
Yep i already know this Gretel not worth it,i mean going for only her not worth time and resources! Maybe if you have enough to go for Hansel too,but definatly not gona be Meta champs for Any kind of arena pvp!
The title ‘legendary’ in this game is losing value the more and more they dilute the pool with horrible champs.
So shyt damn. Thanks scratch
Even the epic and the rare are going to be better than Gretel.😂😂😂
Hansel and Gretel both have generic Demon Hunter vibes from Diablo 3 .... just meh
but elhain has attack boost and crit dmg from soul and does not have ignore deff and a2 reset and turn meter fill...they are not comparable imo...gretel way better...but still underwhelming...
@adambah5867 The total stats and gear sets are all that matters, bro. The soul does nothing if it is not a dmg one. And gretel has turn meter boost as well.
@SkratchPlays that stands. My point is that u can get higher stats on maxed out Gretel then Elhain with the same gear so perhaps more dmg? and Gretel has better kit
@@adambah5867 But the fusion doesn't come with a soul. Yes you can gain extra attack and crit dmg from it but that doesn't mean she will rock. Weak ass multipliers
Vindication!!!!!
So many signs this fusion should be skipped:
1) You lack of enthusiasm over her lol
2) She hits softer than a rare!
3) This fusion is a old fashion fusion.....
Naw naw! And the list goes on but those 3 reasons are more than enough for me to want to skip this fusion lol
theyve copy and pasted abess's animations, wow.
Another pathetic Halloween fusion
am skipping this fusion!
so she's just like last Halloweens fusion, Disappointing.
hard skip bro
Im going to skip now
First
PLS show her in tandem with her bro, that is the way she is supposed to be used
@@giovannizampieri5910 have a different video on that
What a bad fusion…
Trash
boys remember. elhain has 1200 base atk, so in this comparison, elhain did have notibly better gear than gretel
Stats in the end were more or less the same. The fact they can even be compared and Elhain even outdamaged her is the point
You just made the case for skip
Meh .
Wow her AOE is absolutely terrible... I hope she is good with her partner but doesn't seem to likely.