If they did a 2nd season with the same rules, there isn’t even any strategy that would work. Because the contestants figured out that you can steal or destroy people’s stuff and there’s nothing they can do about it, since the only rule is they aren’t allowed to fight. It was a completely flawed premise, and once the contestants figured that out, the whole show was pretty much pointless. You could have no survival skills, and just walk around to everyone’s camp and take all their stuff and they can’t stop you.
@@pete6705 couldn’t agree more once the sabotage rules were put in place it stops being a survival show and becomes a weird game show that just happens to take place in the woods like you can steal someone’s stuff and burn down their tent and rip apart their boat and the other person just has to kind of stand there awkwardly and tell u to stop lmao i think that’s why they cut it short and made them do the race at the end instead of just seeing who could survive the longest
Tons of interviews with alone contestants, some of them took 12+ months to recover from it, some left with all sorts of nasty bugs, they definitely don't plant food
And they're in a state where the police and courts would be like "He was stealing your sleeping bag in freezing temperatures, so you hit him in the head with a rock, which killed him? I don't see what law has been broken, you're free to go."
Right IDGAF if you're a man or woman steal my shit right in front of me like that and you're going to get hurt sure I probably will to but not before taking some teeth with a big rock...
@@Caannnnoonnbut they're not in any danger, or else he would've just actually froze to death that night. But he didn't. Because it's TV and they're not gonna let anyone die. You murdering someone in this case would just be murder.
Watched it on this recommendation. Absolutely wild reality show. Actually feels real. They for sure bail out the contestants when they absolutely need it but that's to be expected.
Really? If they are doing that level of evil shit to each other then how is no one committing violence against anyone else? If I were starving and cold because someone took my shit, there would be hell to pay and a lot o violence would happen.
@@balljointfd3sWell when it comes to the women robbing the solo guy in front of his face, what can he do? He's out numbered. 2 women and 1 guy vs him. If he escalated they could escalate back at no risk.
playing weak gets your targeted, even if you're strong the only thing that does is give moral justification (probably very valuable given the show is scripted) to take revenge. weak parties dont target weak parties, they align with eachother, only strong parties target weak parties, and avoid conflict with near peers.
What a ridiculous situation for a show. If someone steals/breaks your things, you should definitely be able to beat them up. If not, then what is stopping anyone from stealing/smashing other people's things?
yeah its kinda strange when a 140lbs woman is tearing apart your raft and you cant hip throw her onto the rocks. but realistically, in a "war" format (two full camps fighting eachother daily), it actually aligns quite nicely. if two people are fighting over one thing, it turns into a SC2 base rush (having your entire army in the enemy base, and vice versa) where nobody wins and you both just tear eachother down. obviously wrestler teacher and bjj guy would eviscerate any two women, but allowing your contestants to hit 232 combos on eachother is way more complicated than >dont harm eachother but items are perfectly within limits
@@carbharharbcar5867 Indeed, though allowing the destruction of material items can lead to slippery slopes. For example, if I were in that situation, I would have grabbed some gasoline and started dousing their stuff with it. They can't physically touch me, right? Ok, don't mind me while I burn everything down. PS I'm going to do it in the middle of the night while they are sleeping. If they die, well technically, I was targeting their stuff. They just happen to be with their stuff :)
@@raider968 i dont think anyone reasonable would think they could get away with "well i didnt know for sure that they were in there and i was as quiet as i could be and didnt give them any notice! but it's ok because i only intended to destroy property!" that being said, i think this is more evidence of the show being scripted. this dork burned down his own shelter, but not do ANYTHING to the enemy shelter? those two NERDS who lost their bags decided to quit because restarting would just be too rough, but they could have spent their final day living inside the enemy camp poking holes in the tarp. there's nothing stopping them. but of course if they did that (bring your assailant down with you) then charlie would win automatically and the showrunners want a gay hike to the finish line. which is really kind of strange, because the ONE team that decides to raid an enemy camp being brought down by the people they attacked is extremely poetic and a just end. apart of the reason why i love sam hyde's fishtank so much. it's literally just a 24/7 livestream of 8 weirdos in a shitty house, of course some of them play it up, and the showrunners point it in a certain direction, but it's fundamentally real in a way that 98% of reality TV isn't.
@@carbharharbcar5867 Pretending like the crew wouldn't have jumped that guy and beaten the shit out of him on the spot if he retaliated against those two women in any way. If he so much as raised his voice at them they would've immediately kicked him off the show and would try to ruin his life.
Ya it was completely flawed. You can’t say there’s no rules but then not be allowed to physically defend yourself. That just means a 100 lb heroin addict can walk right up to you, take all your stuff and there’s nothing you can do about it. You either have to really have no rules and contestants are allowed to fight, or there needs to be rules that stop you from taking and destroying people’s stuff.
On the show itself they barely explain anything in terms of rules. It was really ambiguous. One of the rules that was mentioned is that you can't vote someone out, but when it got down to 2 teams one of the teams literally vote a guy out. Another rule that they didn't explain was that you had to be in your camp at night time because of safety concerns involving bears, which kind of fucked certain contestants during one of the challenges.
Texas is the only state where you are allowed to protect your property from theft with lethal force and even then it sort of depends. Many states have Castle Doctrines though, so if someone breaks into your house or (depending on state) car then you can kill. Once again, it depends on the state and I'm not a lawyer.
@@balljointfd3s yes, but fighting them off isn't deadly force. I think most if not all state excuse lower levels of force in defense of property crime.
Honestly in a situation like that a lifer convict would thrive not just any lifer an old school lifer one that's made it through the 90's of prison🤣🤣👏🏻👏🏻
There not survivalist so probably not. Unless they were someone who grew up in the country. EDIT: nvm, actually seems like these groups are all in proximity to another. So actually a dude who could punk out others would do well 😅
Survivor fucking sucks, it has nothing to do with surviving, they’re fed and spend all the time standing around talking. It’s more of a soap opera than anything.
@@MrSqurk I'm usually not hungry after 24 hours, but once I hit like 60 hours it sets back in really bad. I do it for autophagy though so not much point in going much longer for me.
So nobody in that camp noticed the camera crew following the guy stealing their stuff? Of this show isn’t faked to any degree I’d bet it would be the first because all others I’ve seen clearly are. Even Bear Grills or whatever his name is faked his show.
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jill and amber playing the victim after stealing sleeping bags and burning peoples camp was genuinely so frustrating
glad they lost
True narcissist
The shorter Viking looking guy played it the best. Didn’t rustle any feathers, pulled his weight, and kept to himself.
If they did a 2nd season with the same rules, there isn’t even any strategy that would work. Because the contestants figured out that you can steal or destroy people’s stuff and there’s nothing they can do about it, since the only rule is they aren’t allowed to fight. It was a completely flawed premise, and once the contestants figured that out, the whole show was pretty much pointless. You could have no survival skills, and just walk around to everyone’s camp and take all their stuff and they can’t stop you.
@@pete6705 couldn’t agree more
once the sabotage rules were put in place it stops being a survival show and becomes a weird game show that just happens to take place in the woods
like you can steal someone’s stuff and burn down their tent and rip apart their boat and the other person just has to kind of stand there awkwardly and tell u to stop lmao
i think that’s why they cut it short and made them do the race at the end instead of just seeing who could survive the longest
Tons of interviews with alone contestants, some of them took 12+ months to recover from it, some left with all sorts of nasty bugs, they definitely don't plant food
How did nobody get murdered? By about 3am without my sleeping bag I would begin to consider it, and by sunrise I would be on my way over.
And they're in a state where the police and courts would be like "He was stealing your sleeping bag in freezing temperatures, so you hit him in the head with a rock, which killed him? I don't see what law has been broken, you're free to go."
Considered it? I’d be planning get back before the sun even set.
By the end of the show I was reveling in the misfortune of those women; subhuman scum.
Right IDGAF if you're a man or woman steal my shit right in front of me like that and you're going to get hurt sure I probably will to but not before taking some teeth with a big rock...
@@Caannnnoonnbut they're not in any danger, or else he would've just actually froze to death that night. But he didn't. Because it's TV and they're not gonna let anyone die. You murdering someone in this case would just be murder.
Kinda gives insight into why in times of minimal resources, theft is responded to violently.
Watched it on this recommendation. Absolutely wild reality show. Actually feels real. They for sure bail out the contestants when they absolutely need it but that's to be expected.
Really? If they are doing that level of evil shit to each other then how is no one committing violence against anyone else? If I were starving and cold because someone took my shit, there would be hell to pay and a lot o violence would happen.
@@balljointfd3syou’d do nothing
@@balljointfd3sWell when it comes to the women robbing the solo guy in front of his face, what can he do? He's out numbered. 2 women and 1 guy vs him. If he escalated they could escalate back at no risk.
Let your enemy think you are weak when you are strong & strong when you are weak. You play weak, plan & wait.
The Art Of War my good man!
Lol
playing weak gets your targeted, even if you're strong the only thing that does is give moral justification (probably very valuable given the show is scripted) to take revenge. weak parties dont target weak parties, they align with eachother, only strong parties target weak parties, and avoid conflict with near peers.
Got my hopes up, I thought this was going to be an Outlast video game TV series
In a whole lot of these scenarios a good rock to the head would be a solid problem solver
That's literally what I was thinking. No unarmed junkie is stealing anything from me in that situation.
This show is the perfect example of what happen if the grid went down in the states. A literal disgusting show of the human condition..
What a ridiculous situation for a show. If someone steals/breaks your things, you should definitely be able to beat them up. If not, then what is stopping anyone from stealing/smashing other people's things?
yeah its kinda strange when a 140lbs woman is tearing apart your raft and you cant hip throw her onto the rocks. but realistically, in a "war" format (two full camps fighting eachother daily), it actually aligns quite nicely. if two people are fighting over one thing, it turns into a SC2 base rush (having your entire army in the enemy base, and vice versa) where nobody wins and you both just tear eachother down. obviously wrestler teacher and bjj guy would eviscerate any two women, but allowing your contestants to hit 232 combos on eachother is way more complicated than >dont harm eachother but items are perfectly within limits
@@carbharharbcar5867 Indeed, though allowing the destruction of material items can lead to slippery slopes. For example, if I were in that situation, I would have grabbed some gasoline and started dousing their stuff with it. They can't physically touch me, right? Ok, don't mind me while I burn everything down. PS I'm going to do it in the middle of the night while they are sleeping. If they die, well technically, I was targeting their stuff. They just happen to be with their stuff :)
@@raider968 i dont think anyone reasonable would think they could get away with "well i didnt know for sure that they were in there and i was as quiet as i could be and didnt give them any notice! but it's ok because i only intended to destroy property!"
that being said, i think this is more evidence of the show being scripted. this dork burned down his own shelter, but not do ANYTHING to the enemy shelter? those two NERDS who lost their bags decided to quit because restarting would just be too rough, but they could have spent their final day living inside the enemy camp poking holes in the tarp. there's nothing stopping them. but of course if they did that (bring your assailant down with you) then charlie would win automatically and the showrunners want a gay hike to the finish line.
which is really kind of strange, because the ONE team that decides to raid an enemy camp being brought down by the people they attacked is extremely poetic and a just end. apart of the reason why i love sam hyde's fishtank so much. it's literally just a 24/7 livestream of 8 weirdos in a shitty house, of course some of them play it up, and the showrunners point it in a certain direction, but it's fundamentally real in a way that 98% of reality TV isn't.
@@carbharharbcar5867 Pretending like the crew wouldn't have jumped that guy and beaten the shit out of him on the spot if he retaliated against those two women in any way. If he so much as raised his voice at them they would've immediately kicked him off the show and would try to ruin his life.
Thought it was going to be like alone. It wasn’t! Alone is real
Sounds like a crazy version of alone. Kyle would kill on survivor and I'd love to see it!
Ya it was completely flawed. You can’t say there’s no rules but then not be allowed to physically defend yourself. That just means a 100 lb heroin addict can walk right up to you, take all your stuff and there’s nothing you can do about it. You either have to really have no rules and contestants are allowed to fight, or there needs to be rules that stop you from taking and destroying people’s stuff.
the rules make no sense. your suppose to just let someone steal your stuff and cant fight back?
On the show itself they barely explain anything in terms of rules. It was really ambiguous. One of the rules that was mentioned is that you can't vote someone out, but when it got down to 2 teams one of the teams literally vote a guy out. Another rule that they didn't explain was that you had to be in your camp at night time because of safety concerns involving bears, which kind of fucked certain contestants during one of the challenges.
i mean it is america. in alaska it is probably legal to fight someone off stealing your stuff.
Absolutely.
in Texas you can protect property with lethal force
Texas is the only state where you are allowed to protect your property from theft with lethal force and even then it sort of depends. Many states have Castle Doctrines though, so if someone breaks into your house or (depending on state) car then you can kill. Once again, it depends on the state and I'm not a lawyer.
@@balljointfd3s yes, but fighting them off isn't deadly force. I think most if not all state excuse lower levels of force in defense of property crime.
Not against the law to push someone. Helps if they are near a frozen lake!
Whoa it's Chris James
Damn I thought this was gonna be a series on the game Outlast
woody watches survivor but doesnt know how they find the idols.... they get clues woody...
If they have a second season I will apply and if I get in I'm creating a bow and arrows and playing green arrow
In the moment a sharp stick or rock to the head , nd then worry about about what youve done after
Just finished this show last night because of Kyle talking about it. Bad show, but had plenty of laughs.
It's a good show but it's heavy on drama
Bear Grillis
The one who was an H addict will do well. You have to be hard as nails to beat that demon! Hope this is on Netflix UK!
She didn't do much.
@@Lorenzo_I.She destroyed the raft😅
Bear grillis
For minute I thought Netflix adapt the “outlast” horror game from red barrel that would been more interesting than what this cause it’s bland asf.
Honestly in a situation like that a lifer convict would thrive not just any lifer an old school lifer one that's made it through the 90's of prison🤣🤣👏🏻👏🏻
Societal waste that have to get fed by other men are not really competition to real-life survivalist. Remember convicts are the bottom of the barrel.
There not survivalist so probably not.
Unless they were someone who grew up in the country.
EDIT: nvm, actually seems like these groups are all in proximity to another. So actually a dude who could punk out others would do well 😅
Would have them women in the river with woods
You want to watch them in the river with woody?
Soho tuna.
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Survivor fucking sucks, it has nothing to do with surviving, they’re fed and spend all the time standing around talking. It’s more of a soap opera than anything.
Is it against the rules to beat them up?
Had my question answered before I could full screen it lmao
I fast for up to 72 hours on a semi regular basis :P 5 days sounds unbearable
I have done long fasts before and day 4 is when I stop feeling hungry. It is different in a survival situation though
@@MrSqurk I'm usually not hungry after 24 hours, but once I hit like 60 hours it sets back in really bad. I do it for autophagy though so not much point in going much longer for me.
So nobody in that camp noticed the camera crew following the guy stealing their stuff? Of this show isn’t faked to any degree I’d bet it would be the first because all others I’ve seen clearly are. Even Bear Grills or whatever his name is faked his show.