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If your daughter at 13 years old said a 32 year old is giving her boy advice ? Then says i cannot say what that advice is, i will keep it in the text. We as a society would want to deem that individual a PDF file. Stop making excuses for Drake. You would not make excuses for a regular guy.
They idolize famous people..as if they don't behave as Humans...it's scary
It's crazy.…..micheal jay white said when you get rich people don't pay attention to your flaws that much.
Did she say her parents didn’t know about the content of the text? I thought she said she wasn’t sharing with the public.
@@everestarmstrong7053 even before we answer that if a grown man is talking with an underage girl what happens in everyday life, they get live streamed to the entire world and the police follow up with an arrest there is no benefit of the doubt given.
Definitely at least Drake is a groomer at worst he is a PDFile!
No one never talks about 6:16 in LA. I really liked that one.
Wish it was DSPs
I love dot but that was mid everything is was great but I wasn’t a fan of 6:16
@@Awsme_JAlmostmpointless as a diss but I gotta disagree, the music was fire.
“Tell me who gone stop me!
The industry’s cooked as I pick the carcass aparrt”
Ditto
he sounded so hungry on that one, really liked how fast he was throwing out such complicated bars tbh
‘Meet The Grahams’ is an amazing diss track. People really need to listen to how Kendrick is dissecting Drake. It’s very underrated
To me Meet the Grahams and Euphoria should be in the Top 5 greatest diss track.
I wouldn't say it's underrated, majority of people who appreciate art and music would agree
It's not underrated at all. It's simply great. One of thr best diss songs of all time.
It’s trash and unlistenable
@@TheWallethead this song is no more unlistenable than Stan by Eminem
That Malibu’s Most Wanted bar on They Not Like Us is one of my favorite bars from this whole thing . Watching the movie you understand, Jamie Kennedy was a child who’s parents were absent but he was dumb rich and well protected from everything. He discovers Hip Hop and immerses himself in it to the point where his entire life becomes a Hip Hop caricature and nobody can tell him the truth about himself. He is forever convinced he is street and leans on Hip Hop culture to convince others he is actually like that.
Damn🤯
I will agree with Ebro.. the time I listened to “to pimp a butterfly “ I wasn’t mature enough to understand it but now listening back to it over the last year I found myself loving it more and more
True, in 2015 I only liked "alright" and "these walls"
In 2020 no one could convince me that there is a better rap album than TPAP
It's funny how Drake was the one who brought up the PDF file accusations on Taylor Made when he said ..."Talk about him likin' young girls, that's a gift from me Heard it on the Budden Podcast, it's gotta be true"
didnt catch that
he tried to get ahead of the accusations but the way kendrick delivered the accusations via meet the grahams was so scathing and overpowered drakes strategy.
Hit em up was not a battle record. It was a diss record. There’s a clear difference.
The 2pac disrespect has to stop
I was enjoying the pod till the old man started hating. Done with this episode now as a result.
Facts
really appreciated the conversation around albums not being received well at the time of their release because of where one’s mental is at during that specific point in time. great stuff Ebro 😊
Hit Em Up is def the greatest diss ever cause it's more than a diss, its a historical artifact
Hit ‘Em Up is still my fav diss record of all time idc what they say lol
Pac has two verses on hit em up and the greatest outro of all time
"No Vaseline "was brutal perhaps the best
Rosenberg shouldn’t talk on Hit’em up
He has a point though it’s not a battle record
@@oladeebiazazi4538 its a diss record, however you and rosenberg wanna slice it to make yall feel better, cool. Its a diss record and one of the top ones if not the top diss of all time.
Remy destroyed Niki
It's two verses of tupac on hit em up if you listen to the whole song white boy
@ 24:50 Cannibus didn't Diss LL Cool J originally. The verse Rosenberg is speaking on wasn't intended to be a diss towards LL, when Cannibus says "Yo L, is that a Mic on your Arm, let me borrow that."
LL felt some kind of way about it and rewrote his verse afterward and truly sucker-punched Cannibus in that Beef.
Most of the conversation has nothing to do with dissecting the biggest lines from the Drake & Kendrick album. I wish someone would have redirected the conversation.
OV-HOEEEEEEEEEEEE 🕺🏾
We can never forget: Drake has a rap/pop audience. He's a visitor to hip-hop.
The Lox would like to enter the convo cause The Roc and 50 beef was things beautiful nightmares are made of
Kdot Gaslit Drake 😂 on
“Meet the grahams”
Str8 merked em , he Smoked Drizzy…
Doubled back & Military drilled him with “They Not Like Us”‼️
Top 5 dis tracks - no vasoline, ether, hit em up, Dre day, 2nd Round Knockout
Top 5 diss- 2pac- hit em up eazy e- real muthafuckin gs, nas-either, 50cent-backdown, kendrick lamar- not like us
Back Down is nowhere near top 5 lol
People sleep so hard on Kurupt “Calling out Names”
You're right,Kurupt was Fonky on there!!! The production was Fred Wreck f.y.i .... it's was a West coast sound to it's core!!💯
They sleep on Dollaz and Sense, which is my favorite Diss all-time,Quik Barbecued Eiht and Annihilated his career..💯
No Ebro is right the bad b line means no respect for women Rihanna, Megan thee stallion, etc.
The bad b Line was about drake wanting attention and competing with women
2pac against all odds was a bigger diss than hit em up
J.cole vs Kendrick should of been the real battle we all wanted
I would never want that battle...there is no need for that especially when they both respect each other as artists..and it's actually genuine. Drake has said some really disrespectful things about KDot in several interviews. You can't pin homies against homies ....every diss record was made because someone disrespected the other artist..nothing random which made it organic and real
@mecca6941 well not a beef but a lyrical rap off between the two exercising bar for bar
We just need a joint album between them 😢
Not when you're sick of the Drake overload. I think Drake is dope, especially when he 1st came out but I've never bumped Drake in my spare time lol.
@@consistencyiskey84 We need a joint album
LL Cool J, Cannibus, and Wycleff battle was the best battle. Everybody slept on Wycleff joint
We love BIG and Pac, but Biggie did make Long Kiss Goodnight. It was clearly aimed at an already deceased 2pac
There's subs all throughout Life After Death tbh.
I loved this entire conversation! My musical cup is full 🎶🥛. Thank you!
Wasn't this an Alchemist beat?
Could you imagine if we had the Internet when Cube droped No Vaseline? That wouldve been crazy?
Mos Def didn't dis him. He was just being honest. Let that man be.😅
Also Frieky and Weird do mean something for the Westcoast. They said when the case involves women, children, or elders you're a weirdo or a freak depending on what it is. They don't be on that predator stuff.
I'm noticing there's a lack of West Coast representation in these conversations. Lots of stuff getting lost in translation cause these people don't know West Coast culture.
Hit em up is the greatest diss record ever. The beat, the way PAC rides it, the level of disrespect, the directness. It cuts so deep! It’s timeless.
When you're direct Rosenberg, you don't need to be lyrical
Y'all got the LL battle wrong. Canabis made a reference to LL tattoo on 4 3 2 1 and LL took it worng and dissed him on the same song, then 2nd round KO, then LL with the ripper strikes back, which to me is the best diss track ever
Story of Adidon + Stan= Meet The Grahams
How can you take these guys seriously? They thought Pac only had 1 verse on Hit em Up
That’s such a BAD LOOK
Thank you for the love live
The fact that Pac has a 2nd verse Rosenberg never heard is crazy. As much as he talks hip hop I’m surprised. Biggie was the best New York had so this song meant so much because no one dared speak ill towards him. Remember “Biggie when I used to let you sleep on the couch and begged your b**** to let you sleep in the house.”
Rosenberg… that’s an L take on hit em up. 2pac not going the whole song was a diss in itself. And the entire song is a diss and his verses are fire. That song and the ride out cursing out mobb deep and all…. That was impactful
Biggie the best to ever do it but hit em up is top 5 without question. It was epic because it was against biggie who was the biggest rapper in the game at the time.
Hit em up on the west coast still a banger and we still bumpin the entire song .
How do people discuss diss records, but never bring up DJ Quik Dollas & Sense! Mind blowing 🤯
13:53 Rosenberg: "Say what want, whatever is true, whatever is not true, that is a lyrical masterpiece!"
Rosenberg always seems like he really doesn't understand but thinks he does at times
Rosenberg it was Cannabis giving L.L. a s/o when he said let me borrow the mic of your arm. L.L. took as disrespect and then Cannabis retaliated.
Being as objective as possible as a Kendrick Stan, in Family Matters Drake was in his bag the deepest I have ever seen him go as a rapper, it is a well written song minus the side bar disses for the “others”. I think he was just out-strategized, that to me is the most glaring thing because he is usually very good where strategy is concerned in beefs.
I mean Kendrick is using the exact same line he used in the heart pt 4 on euphoria. “Don’t tell no lies bout me, Won’t tell no truths bout you”
He just got outclassed and fell into all of Kendrick’s traps.
I agree with you
This is extremely accurate
But it also feels like the whole Industry wanted Kendrick to win… the only reason Kendrick dropped not like us is because MTG wasn’t doing it against Family matters… that’s fact
@@TheWalletheadeveryone i know in real life says kdot won and mtg was the nail in the coffin. Maybe the internet thinks differently but in real life is kdot by a mile
@@TheWallethead hey I won’t dispute that, it still won him the battle though.
Ether is #1. It’s still the biggest heavy weight battle ever. Two dudes cut from the same cloth, two Kings in NY but different burroughs. Both from the projects as well an elevated mentality. They equally understood what hip hop meant to the culture. For Nas to get the W during Jays zenith makes Ether #1 imo!
The most modern, highest ranking albums would be Good Kid, Mad City, To Pimp a Butterfly, Beyonce's Lemonade, Renaissance, or Cowboy Carter. Adele's albums will be on there, in particular 21.
this was one off best live after live live.....show
Why are they acting like the outlaws are Tupac unknown homies lol. Outlaws are fire 🔥.
I'm with Ebro regarding the “don't like women” lyric. Lamar is too classy to cheapen his work with homophobia as to my knowledge on his last album it appears that he took a pro-lgbtq+ stance. But i digress. I interpretated the lyric as he was calling drake a misogynist again. However, the lyric can be interchanged. Terrible but quite impressive.
1 minute in and I can already smell the bias
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Truth
I respect that LL didn’t take Canibus verse off the record. Just re-recorded his. These days, most artists wouldn’t allow that.
The line "certified lover boy, certified pedophiles" There's an s on the end. It wasn't about Drake himself, especially when you take into account the previous line about Baka's case. Kendrick is saying Drake certifies pedos. At least in that line.
I love y’all. Rosenberg, you my mans, bro. Much respect to you and your love for Hip Hop, but Hit ‘Em Up is without question one of THEE hallmark diss records of all-time. I think with what Kendrick has done in the time from Control through this beef with Drake sets him in a rare class, but it can’t erase what Hit ‘Em Up was for the culture. When somebody says in today’s world “F**k *so and so* as a staff, record label, AND as a MF’n crew”, we ALL know what birthed that phrase. It needed no entendres, and if anyone was lyrically capable of pulling those elements off, ‘Pac was the one. Hit ‘Em Up didn’t need it. The vitriol spoke for itself. 🫡
Rosenberg saying he doesn’t listen to Hit ‘‘em up pass the first verse is very laughable 😂. 2pac and the Outlawz are world wide till this day.
Hit’em up checks every box. I don’t understand the debate.
He’s direct, he disrespects him lyrically and by stating his not on his level and letting his other rappers rap. Then he went after bad boy in its entirety and fan base.
Y’all got 700 pepo watching you hating on Drake 😅
Unfortunately,thats why Facebook still remains one of the better platforms.
You can still choose favorites to make sure you see those first.
It’s limited,but still an option.
The engagement isn’t there,just ask nessa.
But you can still manipulate the algorithm a bit once you’ve followed too many people..
We definitely listened to the end of hit em up when PAC is going off y’all tripping.
Canibus didn't diss LL he was trying to give him props about borrowing the mic
Appreciate the historical context.
Seriously Burge? You cut hit em up off after the 1st verse?
People gotta remember Hot97 got beef with OvO camp for a while all of them in the video have had their feelings hurt one way or another 🤣
Dollars and sense
The bias is real! You all can’t never have no honest discussion. Drake never had a chance with you weirdo’s! 👎🏾
you ain't lie!!
DJ Quik "Dollar's & Cents"
Ya'll keep leaving Quik out!! Most underrated in the game ever!
Attacking his masculinity 12:07
“You weren’t mature enough” I think is misguided. “You weren’t receptive of it at the time” is better.
Sometimes you just aren’t looking for the same qualities that you’re hearing. So you don’t hear it the way you would when you’re looking for those qualities.
1. Drop a gem on em - mobb deep
2. No Vaseline - ice cube
3. 2nd round knockout - canibus
4. Hit em up - 2pac
5. Ether - Nas
2Pac - Against All Odds was a Nuke. Ether, Dre Day and Jada freestyle dissin Beans has to go in there
Rosenberg that's incorrect. Canibus didn't dis LL on 4321 originally he only said "Yo L, is that a mic on your arm let me borrow that" and LL took offense to that line and then dissed Canibus on 4321 even though Canibus didn't mean it disrespectfully
Ice cube diss track at nwa is number one
1. Who shot ya
2. Long Kiss Goodnight
3. Checkmate
4. Ether
5. Meet the Ghrams
Euphoria was the best of the Drake- Kendrick bunch
i’ll never put another diss record over No Vaseline, but also, i wouldn’t put Hit Em Up as the best from just Pac
There is a article from rolling stone back in the day about Kendrick hitting a white girl that got covered up, google it, Drake isn’t far off 👀
It was already addresed, in 2015.
Already proven to be untrue
Biggie replied to Tupac! A few songs on the Life after death was directed towards Pac. Y'all go listen again
Two of the best diss tracks to go back and forth.. “Dre Day” vs “Real Muthfuccin G’z” As far as battle records.. Gotta go with Canibus “2nd Round Knockout” Young Canibus was trying to take LL’s head off.
Astroworld definitely belongs on that list
The Drake Hate!!!!!
Lmao... Without fail. What did Drake do to Hot97?
They always forget about Dollaz and Sense by DJ Quik
I’m totally a Drake hater and l stand in it too!!
i didn’t pick a side in the battle, I’m not calling it beef because no one is attempting to get physical.
However, people are very bias towards Drake and get mad detailed when speaking on why he isn’t good etc, Kendrick gets a pass on everything
Don’t get me wrong Kendrick is a monster but don’t act like Drake didn’t give the people what they wanted, he could’ve tucked tail and ran but he entertaining everything…he’s participating in the sport he signed up for and taking what comes with it
Rosenberg is a goober
Never forget that this whole network hates Drake ever since he stopped giving them attention. Since the beef started we all knew who Ebro and Rosie woul;d be rooting for
We Here Hot 97 id Hiphop
For the Record, Canibus never Diss LL on 4321, He stated "Hey you L let me borrow the Mic from your Arm" almost as a fan wanting to be great too. LL took offense to it took Canibus off the record and recorded then flat out Diss Canibus. 2nd round Knockout was a response to the LL Diss on 4321. LL reply back wasnt as good but he put out some hits and was the bigger artist and Canibus Album flopped. But for the record By for Canibus put out the better diss record. And personally for me it is top 3 diss records of all time. It was Canibus Masterpiece. But industry politics got people thinking it was not that. History is writing by the winners but i lived it and thats what happened.
Respectfully I have never saw anyone with a career doing nothing as Laura. Has anyone here ever seen her contribute anything to any conversation ever? Lbh. She’s carried harder than Messi.
hit em up has and will outlast every other disstrack
We're harping on strategy too much. Kendrick made better music. Euphoria was a better battle song than push ups. Not like us is a better bop than Family Matters. 6:16 is a better interlude than Taylor made. Meet the grahams is the best written and executed song. The heart part 6 was lackluster.
Canibus didn’t go at L on 4321 He asked to use the mic on L arm & LL don’t like that made him change the lyric & then dissed canibus on 4321 then we got 2nd rd knocout & then LL had jac the ripper & Can-I-Bus yes u may were he kilt him canibus lost the battle & career he was the first ja rule by a Ny goat
All this ish is based on opinion but with yall crew drake never had a chance.
The glasses made Rosenberg a bigger hater😂
Re: Hit Em up: In 'Brooklyn's Finest (top 3 back and forth rhyme ever imho)' Big said "Gotta go coolio mean it's gettin too hot / If FAith had twins she'd prolly have two Pacs / Get it: Tu...Pac?" Validation or just word play to show he wasn't trippin?
It was ludacris vs drake and big Sean to be fair.
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