I'm from Argentina and I've been playing the game since 2015, it made me super happy to see the TAM being added to the game and I couldn't have asked for a better representation of it. The only other argentine tank I would personally love seeing added to the game is the Nahuel DL-43 which was a valiant effort to make a decent national tank in the 40s
I would also love to see the Nahuel, but it'd be hard to balance, its gun is a howitzer; aka, horrendous, but the armor is 80mm + ANGLED at the front, basically indestructible for a BR where the gun would be able to do anything
@@theoneandonlyartyom I don't see an issue balancing the Nahuel, or any other vehicle, regardless of BR assigned to it... Gaijin can always do a BR change depending on usage data.
I think an entire tree for South America, could have many different tanks/planes. Even though I personally am sticking with Sweden it would still be cool!
@@theoneandonlyartyom There is a chance to have and available HEAT for the Nahuel gun (must research more). But still it surely had solid AP and HE as main projectiles.
Im from Argentina, and in the past I served in the Argentine army. I have seen the combat doctrine with this tank, and when I play with a friend who is also former military, when using those combat tactics we feels like a walk in the park. And inside this video game I see how that many players have excellent results with combat styles similar to what is taught in the army
The TAM entered combat during the "alsamiento de carapintadas" and "toma de la tablada" it was mostly counter insurgency combat against rebels seizing barracks
Perdona pero estas equivocado, en el levantamiento de los Caras Pintadas no se utilizaron blindados, el armamento mas pesado que participo fue la ametralladora MAC que era usada por los mismos Caras Pintadas que tomaron el edificio de la aduana en la Av. Paseo Colón y se enfrentaron con efectivos de la Policia Federal y en la toma d la Tablada solo paticiparon los Curassiers austriacos y los M-15 franceses. El TAM aun no participo de ningún enfrentamiento armado real.
Argentinian Army really made good use of that tank. On other TH-cam videos were many of them are old documentary from Argentina. You can see they have so many variants of this tank. Even rocket launcher, ambulance, and more.
I'll add a fun note. In the early 1990s several middle East countries like Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Peru wanted to buy the TAM. Peru even tested them. A possible order for over 1200 tanks could have been placed to the middle east. The US wanted to sell their Patton's and stop a new tank producer out in the market. So they pressured and threatened Germany to stop it. The Germans couldn't stop the Argentines selling the tank because it was a design owned by the Army. So they restricted the re export of the MTU engines and the PERI sights. The contracts fell in middle east and Peru kept using their T-55 instead of buying TAMs. Argentina would have send the on production for the Army tanks to Peru and increase production so the army needs would be pushed back.
Were there any French or Italian engines as an alternative to the MTU ? I like the look and versatility of the TAM platform, too bad it was cut short of its potential.
@@scratchy996 the power pack of late cold war and modern tanks are integrated with the transmission so they can be unhooked and swapped quickly with a few tools and an engine crane. Germans have the best ones and as it a marder based tank it was designed to house the MTU pack. I doubt it would be easy to replace it as none of them had multifuel engines of that power output on that size. Still they would have needed to create a new transmission to fit on the drivetrain of the TAM. And replace the FCS of the tank too.
@@scratchy996yes, its possible to change the MTU engine and the Renk transmission for a FIAT/EZ pack (made in Argentina) directly. That was analyzed during in the design and tested in the 90'
Honestly the TAM 2IP, I think is very under rated - great light tank, aggressor and is undervalued because of its lack of thermals, but by using it correctly, receiving kills, it almost makes a great progressing step to top tier as you will not solely rely on thermals
i can peacefully rest now,we are the campions of de fifa wc and gaijin made a video dedicated exclusively to the TAM,my last wish is seeing the pucara...
El terreno de Malvinas es muy blando, tanto que tuvieron problemas de movilidad hasta los vehículos blindados a rueda (PANHARD AML 90), los cuales tuvieron que ser empleados de forma estática para la defensa de los accesos a Puerto Argentino (Port Stanley) dónde se encontraba el comando de las fuerzas argentinas
@@matycepeda9475 En realidad no es una cuestión de peso siino de peso/superficie. La oruga es mejor que la rueda. Sin embargo, si no recuerdo mal, los mejores valores eran de los Curassiers
Best of all, its a tank made from national industry, its ours, and that is a pride that not many can boast since many latin american countries buy foreign tanks because they never researched or just didnt want to research about tanks, it is uncommon for a country that is not an economic power to have its own tank of national industry, but we managed and its quite good. PE: Im actually a soldier training for officer in the Argentinian Army, and choose Cavalry, I got the chance to be part of a tank crew and it is awesome. It would be nice if the video showed all the TAM family and variants like the TAM VCTP, TAM Palmaria (a much heavier mobile artillery tank) etc, TAM is a very versatile invention with many variants.
@@cepv_2305 considering it mostly was a prototype, it's prob going to be a premium, but with how iconic it is, maybe it'll have a bad tech tree version
First of all, as an Argentine that I am, I thank you for this great video that I have made, it was very nice, but I have to correct you, the Argentine tanks did fight and it was the Balkan war with the blue helmets.
I would like them to add the Argentine battleships, like the ARA Moreno or the ARA Rivadavia, They were like an improved version of the class dreadnought
It is really awesome that you guys add in different counties vechiles for us to play, never played it myself nor own the premium one, but have been killed by it a lot! Keep up the good work!
In the real life, some TAM’s drivers push the tank at the top speed of 100-105 km/h. The TAM “family “ includes a TAM MLRS, a self- propelled artillery howitzer ( Palmaria), an ammunition vehicle, recovery tank and the well known IFV. That’s an excellent way to optimise the logistics in combat: made in Argentina 🇦🇷
EN (auto): Now, speaking for all Argentines in the game, when are the planes? Historically much more iconic due to the conflict in the Malvinas, in addition to the fact that many prototypes were manufactured such as the Pucará, Pulqui 1 and 2 or Ñancú, the latter being the fastest piston-powered aircraft in the world manufactured at the time. ES: Ahora, hablando por todos los argentinos del juego, para cuándo los aviones? Históricamente mucho más icónicos debido al conflicto en Malvinas, además del hecho que muchos prototipos fueron fabricados, como el Pucará, Pulqui 1 y 2 o Ñancú, siendo éste último el avión a pistón más rápido del mundo fabricado en la época.
skyhawk y mirage ya estan en el juego, no me acuerdo si esta el super etendard. El pucara estaria bueno como CAS y el pulqui 1 y 2 como las versiones prototipo del MIG17
Personalmente quiero agradecerles infinitamente ya que nuestro pais tiene una historia muy pero muy exquisita en todos los aspectos incluyendo la milicia, solo que nuestro pueblo no lo da a conocer. Solo se nos conoce por el futbol tango y carne. Gracias por los subtítulos y la informacion!!! 🇦🇷🇷🇺🇺🇸
I had been lucky enough to see them in a parade some years ago, and they are beautiful! Also, a friend of mine who's been in the military told me it was a great experience using it.
As an Argentine that had the opportunity of seeing various TAM's in person during a parade I can confirm that these vehicles are beautiful to see IRL. Thanks for making this video!
Yep, we, Brazilians, we were at mercy of a better armed vehicle for almost three decades from Argentina. When I was in the military, we had nothing to stop it.
They actually saw some action. First in 1989 in the battle of Tablada. And in early/mid 90s in Balkan war. Not only TAMs but also VCTP (infantry fighting vehicle) and 155 mm argentinian made howitzers as part of the peace force
This tank is the most modern in latin america, it's armor is nothing amazing but his range and precision are out of this world is almost like the sniper rifle of the tank world.
Would be good if Gaijin add another Argentine tanks and planes such as: -VCA Palmaria (SPG) -TAM VCTP (IFV) -IA-58 Pucará (i remember was in testing) -IA-63 Pampa And the legendary Super Etendard (not Argentine but is a legendary plane)
PS: TAM and the TAM VCTP faced some combats such as: -Attack on La Tablada Barracks (1989) -Carapintada Uprising in Boulogne (1990) -Croatian War for Independence (Part of Yugoslav Wars - VCTP was used, part of the UN Peacekeepers)
Lo q pasa es q el tam vctp no tiene ningun lanza misiles o alguna forma de acabar con tanques mas eficientemente :(, es basicamente un marder pero peor
@@chispa9728 fue hace más de un año. Iba a venir al TT alemán pero según Smin hubo un "cambio de planes". De pronto aparece un avión suizo en el TT alemán y renueva la esperanza de ver un TT argentino separado de Alemania. Incluso un lugar para los vehículos latinoamericanos.
@@galmachloof8669 yes israelí contractors show to be the more realiables suppliers for argentina after Malvinas war. The backround stories of that war set on the last flight to exit the Island have to forced two israelí members to avoid british capture.
@@rocket_sensha4337 Yes, it would also be interesting to add to the pulqui II (early jet), the A4C, super etendart and the A4AR, pampa III, etc. there is potential to add it as a sub tree but well we'll see what happens 🤟🏻
Tengo la versión premium del tanque! Muy contento de usarlo es un vehículo que cumple con su papel en su br y medio br mas de diferencia. Es movil y muy util para el flanqueo ideal para aquellos que gustan de andar a gran velocidad
Ahora en argentina se está desarrollando un nuevo tam que es una combinación del tam2ip y el tam2c con la última técnologia de los Merkava, misma municion que el tam2c, un motor auxiliar más y mejores ópticas infrarrojas
Del IP nada, no se le va a agregar blindaje de ningun tipo. Es actualización de sistemas, y planta de energía adicional. El nuevos sitema de tiro israelí va a ser increible. Un verdadero sniper.
not only bridges. terrain, in some places need light tanks in argentina. heavier tanks couldnt operate in many places. particularly in the south. thats the reason why for example. nor england neither argentina landed tanks in Malvinas/Falklands war.
@@Oxley016 really buddy? the heaviest RN losses since ww2. with third party intelligence help against a third world country on its own .... kinda doesn´t look good for the ole mighty owner of the seas.
good morning, how are the developers of war thunder? I speak to you from Argentina. I think that as a medium-term project, it would be a very good idea to add to the game an Argentine technology tree that is composed only of the air force and the army. since the Argentine armed forces may not have a relevant naval force for the game itself... I imagine this project like the one in Israel, which is incredible. Argentina may not have as many air or land vehicles in contrast to (for example) the United States... but it could have the same or a similar amount as Israel. Of course they could add premium vehicles :) a big hug and hopefully this project can be carried out, the gamers of LATAM and Argentina would enjoy it and would be very grateful. thanks for everything. see you in war thunder ;)
It would be great if they also put EE T1 Osorio from Brazil on it too, that tank was one that literally out-tested the Abrams, the AMX 130 and the Challenger 2
Supero en algunos aspectos, menos armadura tenía que el abram y challenger 2, igual muy buen tanque era, estaría bueno que brasil reviviera al osorio con modernizaciónes. Estados Unidos hizo que no se produzca en masa el osorio
@@RobotNacionalista Al igual que a pasado con el TAM, esos desgraciados arruinaron negocios de venta militar tanto a Argentina como a Brasil. Todo solucionado con presión diplomática y el bloqueo de varios componentes de los blindados.
I got the tam 1 first when i got to the respective rank... and jesus christ i fell in love with it, proud of our vehicle being on the game, now imagine the nahuel getting to the game, both the 44 and 49
The tam is one of our rarest and most beautiful tanks of all, we also need to add its artillery and rocket launcher variants, as well as a mortar. It remains to add the pukara and the phoenix pukara. also the pulqui I and the puqui II. it would be nice if they added the pampa lll training-attack block, and the SAIA 90 is a plane similar to the US F17 cobra, only it was never produced in series.
I implore the entire community of War Thunder to test the resiliance of this little guy so we can use the results to convince the military to adopt new, better, more capable machines, maybe even getting more financial support from the government as an increased budget. Our military has been let down for decades, just recently the numbers of ensigns have increased and they continue to do so althought at a very slow rate. What we're in actual need is equipment, young boys are using 70's FAL rifles. It's absurd, we're no match for any updated military ans is clear we're becoming an easy target.
The only battle that the TAM participated in was in a battle against guerrillas who took over a base better known as "La Tablada" if you are interested there are videos about that battle. I loved the video and surely the Argentine community too! 🇦🇷
The TAM was a licensed produced version of a light MBT or medium tank designed by Thyssen-Henschel from a previous design using the HS30 chassis. Thyssen-Henschel offered a more complex and modern design with all the "bells and whistles" as the TH 301, but achieved no success before the end of the Cold War collapsed the market for MBTs. In a way, this was comparable to the Vickers Mk.1, a simplified, lighter (more transportation infrastructure "friendly' at 30-40 metric tons) MBT for export only. The Vickers Mk.1 was adopted by the Indian Army and placed in license production there, with (like the TAM) each tank delivered having more and more local parts until the vehicle was completely manufactured locally. Against its probable opponents, HV.50 and HV.51 Super Shermans in Chile and upgraded M41A3s in Brazil, it was satisfactory for the early 1980s. On a Middle East battlefield such as Iran-Iraq, it might have been competitive, but against the Israelis or their neighbors, it would have been less satisfactory and on the Central Front in Germany, it would have been far less satisfactory on a battlefield dominated by T-64s, T-72s and T-80s and a level higher, Leopard 2A4, Challenger 1 Mk.2/3 and the M1A1 and M1A1(HA). No thermal, no digital FCS, no HALON or Chobham.
@@arielprieto8524 no tendría sentido un árbol argentino, no tenemos suficientes vehículos, no tenemos antiaereas buenas o MBT, nada para br alto, un árbol de latinoamerica podría ser, ya que si tomamos a varios países tenes más variedad de tanques y aviones
@@valentinodestefano6307 no juego war thunder pero Argentina tiene artilleria movil como los palmaria 155 o la convencional tambien, el pampa 3, a4AR, pucara La familia TAM tiene varios vehiculos como se menciona en el video, los camionones pamperos etc
Reconozco la evolución del juego y cuanto ha crecido, seria bueno que creen el árbol tecnológico latinoamericano, "LATAM", es muy rica su historia desde el principio de 1900, naval-aérea y terrestre, y como cierre el mapa aeronaval de Malvinas 1982, la guerra que cambio todas las guerras, seria muy variado y de gran jugabilidad desde este lado del continente con un servidor, casi toda latinoamerica unida por su tecnologia e historia termino teniendo grandes buques de la 2da guerra, Chile, Argentina, Brasil, etc, los cuales hoy están desguazados.
I love it, I think it's an honor that the tank is in the game and it's one of my favourites. I could ask only one thing, please add a LATAM server snail
I'm Brazilian and I would love to see Brazil as a nation or subnation in War Thunder! Especially in the armored wing. We have many very interesting projects that unfortunately many of them ended up not going forward like the other few that were successful. A great example of this is the XLF-40 light rocket launcher, CBTP Charrua T-4 Ogun VBTP-MR Guarani MB3 Tamoyo EE-T1 Osório EE-17 Anaconda EE-3 Jararaca EE-9 Cascavel EE-11 Urutu.
@@hiredmurderer6228 ¡Nuestro! Esta es la idea más brillante que he visto... De verdad, sería mucho más interesante ver un árbol de vehículos blindados que no sean tanques latinos.
@@valentinodestefano6307 Friend, I have read several of your comments... I just want to tell you that perhaps you should learn a little more about the real possibilities that Argentina has the potential to become a technological tree according to Gaijin standards. Also, we could still see the TAM S21, even the pre-series 2C-A2 with the iron wall armor pack and M428 sword (gaijin already did it with other vehicles). If the Wiesel came to the game, the VCTP could easily come with DM63. We could also see the VCLC (albeit as a premium, there are already other similar vehicles), we could even see the pre-series variants of the TAM 1 or TAM A without stabilizer and with a 600 hp engine.
Amo War Thunder, no solo porque se trata de vehículos de combate reales, si no que hay mucha historia en ellos. que comenten un poco de la historia de los vehículos hacen que el mismo tome otro color en el juego. estoy muy emocionado y feliz porque ah ingresado un nuevo vehículo militar de mi país, argentina. muchas gracias equipo de War Thunder
The information is generally correct, but I have to clarify that the tam was designed with German and Argentine engineers, also that the tam was manufactured in Argentina and that the ownership of the design belongs to the Argentine tamse. on the other hand, the tam 2ca2 modernized by elbit in argentina incorporates the same electronic and electrical systems of the mercava 4
I'm from Argentina and I've been playing the game since 2015, it made me super happy to see the TAM being added to the game and I couldn't have asked for a better representation of it. The only other argentine tank I would personally love seeing added to the game is the Nahuel DL-43 which was a valiant effort to make a decent national tank in the 40s
Hola yo también soy de argentina :]
tambien de argentina jeje
jejeje (im argentinan fr)
1982 FLK
@@benniboi5164 Sorry I don't talk to countries that haven't won a World Cup in the last 50 years
Ah our cute little TAM, She may not be the meanest nor the toughest, but she's ours and we love her.
Cine 🗿🚬
Con un cañon de 105 no diria que no es the meanest!!😂👍👍👍
@@fortnex9972 jaja no es un cañón chico claro, pero el estándar en MBT's hoy en día es de 120mm. Y ahora se quiere pasar a 130 incluso.
@@MrBao-yt7bk y a finales de los 70's e inicios de los 80's el cañón de 105 mm seguía siendo el común
es escurridizo y una municion apds muy violenta
you know that the tank is good when all war thunder community praise it
Si poro. ¿PARA CUÁNDO EL TANQUE MEDIO ARGENTINA NAGUEL?
@@elsoldadocaido4896 ese tanque es una mierda no se compara al TAM
@@elsoldadocaido4896 el tanque medio argentino naguel nunca existió, lo que si existio fue el tanque Nahuel
Burro
El nahuel no seria un tanque ligero en comparación con otros tanques?
@@benito4938 sería medio porque es un Sherman
TAM is literaly my nemesis in the battlefield, damm thing so fast and can pen through 99% of its enemies in its BR.
Isn't it literally a Leo A1A1 with spotting though
@@kh2b573 Even lighter, the TAM is a heavily modified improved Marder 1A3.
@@Wen6543 gameplay wise I mean I don't think the Marders are THAT much faster or maybe my stock marder is really kust skill issue
@@kh2b573 Ok, i don´t know about the game.
@@kh2b573 the TAM has 100hp more than the marder
I would love to see the Nahuel, the Pulqui 1 and Pulqui 2, the Pucara... would be interesting to have an Argentina/Brazil tech tree (at least).
I would also love to see the Nahuel, but it'd be hard to balance, its gun is a howitzer; aka, horrendous, but the armor is 80mm + ANGLED at the front, basically indestructible for a BR where the gun would be able to do anything
@@theoneandonlyartyom I don't see an issue balancing the Nahuel, or any other vehicle, regardless of BR assigned to it... Gaijin can always do a BR change depending on usage data.
I think an entire tree for South America, could have many different tanks/planes. Even though I personally am sticking with Sweden it would still be cool!
@@randomguyoninternetidk4014 a South American tech tree would be ideal, many unique vehicles for sure...
@@theoneandonlyartyom There is a chance to have and available HEAT for the Nahuel gun (must research more). But still it surely had solid AP and HE as main projectiles.
Im from Argentina, and in the past I served in the Argentine army. I have seen the combat doctrine with this tank, and when I play with a friend who is also former military, when using those combat tactics we feels like a walk in the park. And inside this video game I see how that many players have excellent results with combat styles similar to what is taught in the army
Digame capitan, cual es su formula ? recien voy por el SdKfz 234 Sonderkraftfahrzeug
@@romanquattrininunez9054
TAM
JaPz K A2
y AAA Gepard
Love the TAM's in WT. Great little tanks. Mobile, hard hitting, and just plain fun.
As an Argentinean player, I love you made a video about the TAM
It looks strong
Yo también bro
The TAM entered combat during the "alsamiento de carapintadas" and "toma de la tablada" it was mostly counter insurgency combat against rebels seizing barracks
Pisando zurdos como corresponde.
Curassiers austrian made AIVs. were used during carapintadas uprising.
@@GeraArg Carapintada = Zurdo. Bien, veo que sos un estudioso del tema
@@botardoDelGeneral supongo que se confundió con el copamiento de La Tablada
Perdona pero estas equivocado, en el levantamiento de los Caras Pintadas no se utilizaron blindados, el armamento mas pesado que participo fue la ametralladora MAC que era usada por los mismos Caras Pintadas que tomaron el edificio de la aduana en la Av. Paseo Colón y se enfrentaron con efectivos de la Policia Federal y en la toma d la Tablada solo paticiparon los Curassiers austriacos y los M-15 franceses. El TAM aun no participo de ningún enfrentamiento armado real.
FMA Pucara when? It was in the archives a few months ago 💀
Try to balance a ´´modern´´ propeller into jets, or even worse, against ww2 planes. That why we will never see this kind of plane
@@daquemasquieren pbv 301 in Tier 2
@daquemasquieren you could research a little about the airplane first, since it would be basically a twin-engine skyrider
@Gato 249ARG NEVER underestimate the pucara. And they could also add the pulqui II which was a very capable jet for its time
Sos vos?
Argentinian Army really made good use of that tank. On other TH-cam videos were many of them are old documentary from Argentina. You can see they have so many variants of this tank. Even rocket launcher, ambulance, and more.
I'll add a fun note. In the early 1990s several middle East countries like Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Peru wanted to buy the TAM. Peru even tested them.
A possible order for over 1200 tanks could have been placed to the middle east. The US wanted to sell their Patton's and stop a new tank producer out in the market. So they pressured and threatened Germany to stop it. The Germans couldn't stop the Argentines selling the tank because it was a design owned by the Army. So they restricted the re export of the MTU engines and the PERI sights. The contracts fell in middle east and Peru kept using their T-55 instead of buying TAMs. Argentina would have send the on production for the Army tanks to Peru and increase production so the army needs would be pushed back.
Ukraine was to be involved in modernizing Peru's T55s but they are kind of busy atm.
Another fun fact, they used that opportunity to sell the Abrams to more countries as well.
Were there any French or Italian engines as an alternative to the MTU ?
I like the look and versatility of the TAM platform, too bad it was cut short of its potential.
@@scratchy996 the power pack of late cold war and modern tanks are integrated with the transmission so they can be unhooked and swapped quickly with a few tools and an engine crane. Germans have the best ones and as it a marder based tank it was designed to house the MTU pack. I doubt it would be easy to replace it as none of them had multifuel engines of that power output on that size. Still they would have needed to create a new transmission to fit on the drivetrain of the TAM. And replace the FCS of the tank too.
@@scratchy996yes, its possible to change the MTU engine and the Renk transmission for a FIAT/EZ pack (made in Argentina) directly. That was analyzed during in the design and tested in the 90'
Honestly the TAM 2IP, I think is very under rated - great light tank, aggressor and is undervalued because of its lack of thermals, but by using it correctly, receiving kills, it almost makes a great progressing step to top tier as you will not solely rely on thermals
Fascinating. Never heard of the TAM until recently. Good stuff.
Love these historical videos. 👍
I'm waiting for the Super Etendard, maybe they could add one from the Argentine Navy as a premium and a French one in the tech tree
French navy just got added yesterday but kinda disappointed whit not being a actuall tech tree but just premium boats and there’s only 2 of em
@@joseluna3998 They always do that when they add a brand new tree, next update will probably add the actual research
And add the exocet missile
@@joseluna3998 bro, the super etendart its a plane
@@julianesqueletun7168 for naval battles... yes
i can peacefully rest now,we are the campions of de fifa wc and gaijin made a video dedicated exclusively to the TAM,my last wish is seeing the pucara...
I like how Tam 2ip is flat out better than regular tam and stills sits at same br
Es porque usa la misma tecnología, menos en la armadura
@@gavinrogue9604 sorry mate I don't speak nachos
@ Tam 2 ip gets DM33 apfsds. regular tam does not
@@denislavventsislavov2078 Nachos? Dude, we speak SPANISH. You know, from SPAIN.
@@denislavventsislavov2078
Don't worry, we translate to your "caveman" tongue.
3:45 TAM preseries started in 1979 so, some units were available for the Malvinas War, but they were not deployed.
El terreno de Malvinas es muy blando, tanto que tuvieron problemas de movilidad hasta los vehículos blindados a rueda (PANHARD AML 90), los cuales tuvieron que ser empleados de forma estática para la defensa de los accesos a Puerto Argentino (Port Stanley) dónde se encontraba el comando de las fuerzas argentinas
El TAM siendo sensiblemente más pesado que los PANHARD, una a ser virtualmente imposible operar en Malvinas😊
@@matycepeda9475 En realidad no es una cuestión de peso siino de peso/superficie. La oruga es mejor que la rueda. Sin embargo, si no recuerdo mal, los mejores valores eran de los Curassiers
Yo hubiera desplegado algunos para ser usados en las calles de Puerto Argentino como artillería móvil
Best of all, its a tank made from national industry, its ours, and that is a pride that not many can boast since many latin american countries buy foreign tanks because they never researched or just didnt want to research about tanks, it is uncommon for a country that is not an economic power to have its own tank of national industry, but we managed and its quite good.
PE: Im actually a soldier training for officer in the Argentinian Army, and choose Cavalry, I got the chance to be part of a tank crew and it is awesome.
It would be nice if the video showed all the TAM family and variants like the TAM VCTP, TAM Palmaria (a much heavier mobile artillery tank) etc, TAM is a very versatile invention with many variants.
TAM 2IP, the best tank I've ever had. S2
And I'm brazilian, a very known rival from Argentinian.
How I would like to see Brazilian tanks too! Hopefully South America is better represented in this beautiful game.
Rivals only in soccer. For the rest we are historical brothers.
@@arielprieto8524 we even destroyed paraguay together (even tho we were clearly the villains in that story but still)
@@mateoabregu5083 LMAO
@@mateoabregu5083 How come we were the villains? Paraguay invaded our territory.
TAM is a great tank. Where are the Brazilian vehicles? Brazil designed lots of tanks and aircraft.
I hope they add the Osório mbt to the game
Garbage
@@cepv_2305 considering it mostly was a prototype, it's prob going to be a premium, but with how iconic it is, maybe it'll have a bad tech tree version
@@furinick I would say the 105mm version would be in a normal tt for grinding while the 120mm one would be a premium
I want to use osorio
First of all, as an Argentine that I am, I thank you for this great video that I have made, it was very nice, but I have to correct you, the Argentine tanks did fight and it was the Balkan war with the blue helmets.
Yeah but just the IFV version, not the normal TAM
I would like them to add the Argentine battleships, like the ARA Moreno or the ARA Rivadavia, They were like an improved version of the class dreadnought
Can't wait to sink them when they add British subs, I'll even decorate mine with a skull and cross bones
@@Oxley016 they will never add subs outside of events for limited time
@@Oxley016 Malvinas Argentinas, llora
@@floppi7098 They once said they would never go beyond Korean war vehicles, now look where we are.
@@Oxley016 oh nvm then
It is really awesome that you guys add in different counties vechiles for us to play, never played it myself nor own the premium one, but have been killed by it a lot! Keep up the good work!
In the real life, some TAM’s drivers push the tank at the top speed of 100-105 km/h. The TAM “family “ includes a TAM MLRS, a self- propelled artillery howitzer ( Palmaria), an ammunition vehicle, recovery tank and the well known IFV. That’s an excellent way to optimise the logistics in combat: made in Argentina 🇦🇷
I really love this tank!!!!. I would also love to see the Sherman and the AMX-13 (both 105mm) in the game and above all, play Argentine planes!
You have the jet A4 is argentine
@@ampri132 Es Estadounidense.
El A4 Ar es "Argentino" (Argentina sólo mejoro un poco el caza Yanki)
EN (auto): Now, speaking for all Argentines in the game, when are the planes? Historically much more iconic due to the conflict in the Malvinas, in addition to the fact that many prototypes were manufactured such as the Pucará, Pulqui 1 and 2 or Ñancú, the latter being the fastest piston-powered aircraft in the world manufactured at the time.
ES: Ahora, hablando por todos los argentinos del juego, para cuándo los aviones? Históricamente mucho más icónicos debido al conflicto en Malvinas, además del hecho que muchos prototipos fueron fabricados, como el Pucará, Pulqui 1 y 2 o Ñancú, siendo éste último el avión a pistón más rápido del mundo fabricado en la época.
skyhawk y mirage ya estan en el juego, no me acuerdo si esta el super etendard. El pucara estaria bueno como CAS y el pulqui 1 y 2 como las versiones prototipo del MIG17
El pucara estaria bueno
Yo solo quiero al Supee Etendard para hundir a los Sheffield
They added TAM 2IP so why not the SAIA 90 Argentine plane?
@@romse9547porque es SAIA 90 no existe, es un F-17 con la escarapela Argentina
im from argentina and i love to see that you include it on the game
TAM with ISAF Camo, nice combo. Lovin it
Personalmente quiero agradecerles infinitamente ya que nuestro pais tiene una historia muy pero muy exquisita en todos los aspectos incluyendo la milicia, solo que nuestro pueblo no lo da a conocer. Solo se nos conoce por el futbol tango y carne. Gracias por los subtítulos y la informacion!!! 🇦🇷🇷🇺🇺🇸
I'd love to see other variants of the TAM like the Palmaria or the VCTP
Does the real VCTP have a fully stabilized gun ?
@@scratchy996 Not 100% sure but I think it has
@@scratchy996 yes it has
the Palmaria would be an antitank
I had been lucky enough to see them in a parade some years ago, and they are beautiful! Also, a friend of mine who's been in the military told me it was a great experience using it.
As an Argentine that had the opportunity of seeing various TAM's in person during a parade I can confirm that these vehicles are beautiful to see IRL.
Thanks for making this video!
Yep, we, Brazilians, we were at mercy of a better armed vehicle for almost three decades from Argentina. When I was in the military, we had nothing to stop it.
They actually saw some action. First in 1989 in the battle of Tablada. And in early/mid 90s in Balkan war. Not only TAMs but also VCTP (infantry fighting vehicle) and 155 mm argentinian made howitzers as part of the peace force
This tank is the most modern in latin america, it's armor is nothing amazing but his range and precision are out of this world is almost like the sniper rifle of the tank world.
como dice PhyDaily, no armor best armor
the leopard 2 to 4 or t 72 are better
@@AngelGonzalez-gb4ncin electronics the last version of the TAM is better m
@@AngelGonzalez-gb4nc Its the most modern of Latin America. Also, those tanks arent as fast and agile as the TAM so shut up
@@AngelGonzalez-gb4nc Self Made tanks. Not EXPORT TANKS
MUCHAAAAACHOOOOOOS
AHORA NO VOLVIMO A ILUSIONAAR🎉
Would be good if Gaijin add another Argentine tanks and planes such as:
-VCA Palmaria (SPG)
-TAM VCTP (IFV)
-IA-58 Pucará (i remember was in testing)
-IA-63 Pampa
And the legendary Super Etendard (not Argentine but is a legendary plane)
PS: TAM and the TAM VCTP faced some combats such as:
-Attack on La Tablada Barracks (1989)
-Carapintada Uprising in Boulogne (1990)
-Croatian War for Independence (Part of Yugoslav Wars - VCTP was used, part of the UN Peacekeepers)
No creo que el pampa entre, el Pucará tiene muchas chances
@@Pucaramodels y dudo, pero si entra... minimo 8.0
tambien el nahuel dl 43, el primer tanque argentino
Lo q pasa es q el tam vctp no tiene ningun lanza misiles o alguna forma de acabar con tanques mas eficientemente :(, es basicamente un marder pero peor
Estaria bueno que hagan un Tech tree de muchos paises de LATAM juntos, y me encantaria ver al Pucara volando en War Thunder
Super tucano e osório também
el pucara esta en los archivos del juego creo
Si
El pucara está para salir ya , estaban como hace 5 meses en un diseño
@@chispa9728 fue hace más de un año. Iba a venir al TT alemán pero según Smin hubo un "cambio de planes". De pronto aparece un avión suizo en el TT alemán y renueva la esperanza de ver un TT argentino separado de Alemania. Incluso un lugar para los vehículos latinoamericanos.
This TAM tank really reminds me of the Merkava tank, it's like its little brother
because it have a lot of things of ELBIT
@@josegutierrezcortizo1565 I know, but even in the first models before an Israeli company was involved in this, it was similar to mark 1 and 2
@@galmachloof8669 yes israelí contractors show to be the more realiables suppliers for argentina after Malvinas war. The backround stories of that war set on the last flight to exit the Island have to forced two israelí members to avoid british capture.
Both had a particularity on common, the front placed engine. Something very rare on tanks
Hi! Is there a possibility that in the future Argentina will be added to the game as a sub tree, like Finland?🤔
It technically already is. You have 2 tam's in the main german tech tree 1 premium tam and the argentinian sk 105.
@@rocket_sensha4337 That is true but it is necessary to add more types of vehicles, not only more armored vehicles but also planes
@@kriegwolf22 oh i worry not pucara its already sitting in the files
@@rocket_sensha4337 Yes, it would also be interesting to add to the pulqui II (early jet), the A4C, super etendart and the A4AR, pampa III, etc.
there is potential to add it as a sub tree but well we'll see what happens 🤟🏻
@@kriegwolf22 Hola soy un fan tuyo 😁
Tengo la versión premium del tanque! Muy contento de usarlo es un vehículo que cumple con su papel en su br y medio br mas de diferencia. Es movil y muy util para el flanqueo ideal para aquellos que gustan de andar a gran velocidad
We need a LATAM tech tree with Osório, TAM , Tamoyo, Sucuri, etc
Osório 🤤
Oh yeah!!
Leo2a4chl, m-60, m24-60, amx escorpión 3
El rayo uff hay varios vehículos con los que se podría hacer una techtree latinoamericana
@@capri212 Pero no son vehículos latinos de por sí...
What a good video, I hope I can see more Argentine vehicles in war thunder: D
TAM is little Merkava, i hope i will get hands on it my friend told me that is a great light tank
We need the TAM VCA Palmaria (a TAM with a 155mm artillery cannon)
not the tanks. but the IFV variant of the TAM saw combat for the first time in January 1989
un conocido mio estuvo en croacia con los vctp. Las tropas de otros paises estaban sorprendidos por su rendimiento y capacidades
It would be nice to see the TAM 2CA2 (a new modernization of the TAM 2C) and the VCA Palmaria (a variant of the TAM as a self-propelled artillery)
Sumamente genial es el TAM!
Exelent video we hope to see the Argentine planes pls!!! and more South America vehicles like the osorio or the EE-09
I would definitely want the argentinian Skyhawk and Dagger to be added to the game. It would be an interesting addition to the German Tech Tree
slava ukraina
Russia! Z
Finally Argentina gets it's own tank into a video, im glad the War thunder channel did this and I would like to thank you
I love my TAM 2C
The TAM/TAM 2IP is honestly a perfect light tank. It fits well with the Marders and the DF105.
Ahora en argentina se está desarrollando un nuevo tam que es una combinación del tam2ip y el tam2c con la última técnologia de los Merkava, misma municion que el tam2c, un motor auxiliar más y mejores ópticas infrarrojas
uuuhh tenes mas data de eso para leer?
En unos meses se va a certificar la nueva torreta. Cambian sistema hidráulico por eléctrico. Nueva electrónica.
Del IP nada, no se le va a agregar blindaje de ningun tipo. Es actualización de sistemas, y planta de energía adicional. El nuevos sitema de tiro israelí va a ser increible. Un verdadero sniper.
@@hernanmartinez3667 Es a futuro, se piensa añadirle un mejor blindaje porque una calibre .50 lo desarma por el costado
@@gavinrogue9604 basta del tam, un tanque mediano pesado nuevo necesita Argentina, el tam solo como apoyo sirve.
Para cuando Argentina Oficialmente como País en War Thunder y su propio Árbol de Tecnología?
There is now 2 things argentina is known for: Messi and TAM.
(This is a joke, i know there is much more in argentina)
Messi.
TAM.
Tango.
Patagonia.
Bs As.
Y ya.
not only bridges. terrain, in some places need light tanks in argentina. heavier tanks couldnt operate in many places. particularly in the south. thats the reason why for example. nor england neither argentina landed tanks in Malvinas/Falklands war.
British forces only needed bayonets to deal with your lot
@@Oxley016 really buddy? the heaviest RN losses since ww2. with third party intelligence help against a third world country on its own .... kinda doesn´t look good for the ole mighty owner of the seas.
@@Oxley016 and argentine forces (well, militias, technically) only needed boiling water and swords to drive us out in 1806, what's your point?
@@theoneandonlyartyom what you on about, there was no Argentina then and we were fighting Napoleon anyway.
@@Oxley016 Oh, sorry, i meant virreinato del rio de la plata (river plate for us), current argentine territory
good morning, how are the developers of war thunder?
I speak to you from Argentina.
I think that as a medium-term project, it would be a very good idea to add to the game an Argentine technology tree that is composed only of the air force and the army.
since the Argentine armed forces may not have a relevant naval force for the game itself...
I imagine this project like the one in Israel, which is incredible.
Argentina may not have as many air or land vehicles in contrast to (for example) the United States... but it could have the same or a similar amount as Israel.
Of course they could add premium vehicles :)
a big hug and hopefully this project can be carried out, the gamers of LATAM and Argentina would enjoy it and would be very grateful.
thanks for everything.
see you in war thunder ;)
Thank you War Thunder for Turkish Subtitles.
EET1 Osório when?
It would be great if they also put EE T1 Osorio from Brazil on it too, that tank was one that literally out-tested the Abrams, the AMX 130 and the Challenger 2
Supero en algunos aspectos, menos armadura tenía que el abram y challenger 2, igual muy buen tanque era, estaría bueno que brasil reviviera al osorio con modernizaciónes. Estados Unidos hizo que no se produzca en masa el osorio
@@RobotNacionalista Al igual que a pasado con el TAM, esos desgraciados arruinaron negocios de venta militar tanto a Argentina como a Brasil. Todo solucionado con presión diplomática y el bloqueo de varios componentes de los blindados.
and we still don't have any Brazilian vehicle in the game, and there are several possibilities.
I got the tam 1 first when i got to the respective rank... and jesus christ i fell in love with it, proud of our vehicle being on the game, now imagine the nahuel getting to the game, both the 44 and 49
Come on gaijin, we need Brazilian tanks, Osório, guarani.....
Brazil at D point
Maybe Brazil will be the Italian subtree they were talking about adding
@@snarblox yeah, they haver the amx
@@snarblox Don't make sense brazil be a subtree
Tbh south america should be a tech tree
The tam is one of our rarest and most beautiful tanks of all, we also need to add its artillery and rocket launcher variants, as well as a mortar. It remains to add the pukara and the phoenix pukara. also the pulqui I and the puqui II. it would be nice if they added the pampa lll training-attack block, and the SAIA 90 is a plane similar to the US F17 cobra, only it was never produced in series.
Muchaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaachoooooooooooooos..... (si, tenia que hacerlo)
I implore the entire community of War Thunder to test the resiliance of this little guy so we can use the results to convince the military to adopt new, better, more capable machines, maybe even getting more financial support from the government as an increased budget. Our military has been let down for decades, just recently the numbers of ensigns have increased and they continue to do so althought at a very slow rate. What we're in actual need is equipment, young boys are using 70's FAL rifles. It's absurd, we're no match for any updated military ans is clear we're becoming an easy target.
U guy should add the messi decal cuz argentina won the world cup recently
The only battle that the TAM participated in was in a battle against guerrillas who took over a base better known as "La Tablada" if you are interested there are videos about that battle. I loved the video and surely the Argentine community too! 🇦🇷
YES! TAM!
LES GO TAM
TAM 2IP - great grinder at a great BR. 8.7 BUSSIN right now
*Muchachos Intensifies*
The TAM is such a cool tank.
Buenisimo el video! Espero que en el futuro agreguen más tanques de mi queridísimo país (el mejor del mundo)
The TAM was a licensed produced version of a light MBT or medium tank designed by Thyssen-Henschel from a previous design using the HS30 chassis. Thyssen-Henschel offered a more complex and modern design with all the "bells and whistles" as the TH 301, but achieved no success before the end of the Cold War collapsed the market for MBTs. In a way, this was comparable to the Vickers Mk.1, a simplified, lighter (more transportation infrastructure "friendly' at 30-40 metric tons) MBT for export only. The Vickers Mk.1 was adopted by the Indian Army and placed in license production there, with (like the TAM) each tank delivered having more and more local parts until the vehicle was completely manufactured locally. Against its probable opponents, HV.50 and HV.51 Super Shermans in Chile and upgraded M41A3s in Brazil, it was satisfactory for the early 1980s. On a Middle East battlefield such as Iran-Iraq, it might have been competitive, but against the Israelis or their neighbors, it would have been less satisfactory and on the Central Front in Germany, it would have been far less satisfactory on a battlefield dominated by T-64s, T-72s and T-80s and a level higher, Leopard 2A4, Challenger 1 Mk.2/3 and the M1A1 and M1A1(HA). No thermal, no digital FCS, no HALON or Chobham.
Estaría bueno volar el FMA IA-58 Pucará
Esta en el CDK hace rato, pero todavia no lo menten al juego
Lo están guardando para el TT argentino, casi puedo olerlo.
@@arielprieto8524 Seria god
@@arielprieto8524 no tendría sentido un árbol argentino, no tenemos suficientes vehículos, no tenemos antiaereas buenas o MBT, nada para br alto, un árbol de latinoamerica podría ser, ya que si tomamos a varios países tenes más variedad de tanques y aviones
@@valentinodestefano6307 no juego war thunder pero Argentina tiene artilleria movil como los palmaria 155 o la convencional tambien, el pampa 3, a4AR, pucara
La familia TAM tiene varios vehiculos como se menciona en el video, los camionones pamperos etc
👍👍 been a fan of the Marder family for a long time. This is a GR8 vid.
Thx, I was always wondering what was the story of the TAM!
I wonder if the Osório MBT will ever get added to the game
no lo conocia, es muy interesante y bello, felicitaciones por esta obra hermanos brasileños
Me encantaria que lo metan tambien
Reconozco la evolución del juego y cuanto ha crecido, seria bueno que creen el árbol tecnológico latinoamericano, "LATAM", es muy rica su historia desde el principio de 1900, naval-aérea y terrestre, y como cierre el mapa aeronaval de Malvinas 1982, la guerra que cambio todas las guerras, seria muy variado y de gran jugabilidad desde este lado del continente con un servidor, casi toda latinoamerica unida por su tecnologia e historia termino teniendo grandes buques de la 2da guerra, Chile, Argentina, Brasil, etc, los cuales hoy están desguazados.
Don´t forget the VCA Palmaria
Argentina 💙🤍💙🥺🥺
I love it, I think it's an honor that the tank is in the game and it's one of my favourites. I could ask only one thing, please add a LATAM server snail
the tam 2 IP makes me have ptsd (spaded the object 279)
Viva argentina carajo
Viva
VIVA
I'm Brazilian and I would love to see Brazil as a nation or subnation in War Thunder! Especially in the armored wing. We have many very interesting projects that unfortunately many of them ended up not going forward like the other few that were successful. A great example of this is the XLF-40 light rocket launcher, CBTP Charrua
T-4 Ogun
VBTP-MR Guarani
MB3 Tamoyo
EE-T1 Osório
EE-17 Anaconda
EE-3 Jararaca
EE-9 Cascavel
EE-11 Urutu.
El Osorio era el más atrevido de todos
@@T_34_85 Sin duda hermano! Pero Tamoyo todavía tiene un lugar especial en mi corazón.
@@eujogoderellsouumapiada3613 cómo el TAP
como argentino jugaria un montonaso más si hubiera un tech tree de todos los vehiculos latinoamericanos
@@hiredmurderer6228 ¡Nuestro! Esta es la idea más brillante que he visto... De verdad, sería mucho más interesante ver un árbol de vehículos blindados que no sean tanques latinos.
At this point just add an Argentinian sub tree into the german tech tree
Very good video but we need also the TAM Palmaria and the rest of the TAM family tanks in the game.
The palmaria can be, but the other versions ? The other versions of the TAM are useless in the actual game
@@valentinodestefano6307 Friend, I have read several of your comments... I just want to tell you that perhaps you should learn a little more about the real possibilities that Argentina has the potential to become a technological tree according to Gaijin standards.
Also, we could still see the TAM S21, even the pre-series 2C-A2 with the iron wall armor pack and M428 sword (gaijin already did it with other vehicles). If the Wiesel came to the game, the VCTP could easily come with DM63. We could also see the VCLC (albeit as a premium, there are already other similar vehicles), we could even see the pre-series variants of the TAM 1 or TAM A without stabilizer and with a 600 hp engine.
@@valentinodestefano6307 ¿Y el Tam VCTP 30mm?
@@Dylan0w0 no tiene cañón de 30mm es de 20mm, y aportaría poco y nada
Amo War Thunder, no solo porque se trata de vehículos de combate reales, si no que hay mucha historia en ellos.
que comenten un poco de la historia de los vehículos hacen que el mismo tome otro color en el juego.
estoy muy emocionado y feliz porque ah ingresado un nuevo vehículo militar de mi país, argentina.
muchas gracias equipo de War Thunder
Si no porque también es un simulador de combate... Creo que quisiste decir.
Great we have argentina! now we need the Osorio :>
The information is generally correct, but I have to clarify that the tam was designed with German and Argentine engineers, also that the tam was manufactured in Argentina and that the ownership of the design belongs to the Argentine tamse. on the other hand, the tam 2ca2 modernized by elbit in argentina incorporates the same electronic and electrical systems of the mercava 4
Id definitely buy a TAM for grinding Germany when i get a pc to play WT :DDD
Any brazilian modified viacle or Super Tucano coming for the game?
GREAT VIDEO. THANKS FROM ARGENTINA.
We need, war thunder need the LATAM tech tree ... pls
I would love to see TAM2CA2 added to the game
I love the TAM
Correction for 3:42, The TAM actually saw "combat" against guerrillas during the 1989 attack on La Tablada.
Never made it into production? I'm pretty sure it did, also, i've been inside of a TAM-2IP, and it was forgotten to mention the TAM-C2-A2.