Really great! This is a university level film class! I've never considered the use of Bette and Joan's old movies in this film as anything other than a neat feature that adds authenticity. From your video I can see that the choices must have been deliberate, and that adds a great deal! Thanks for this very revealing study! Does your use of Satie's music have deeper meaning or did you just feel it sounded nice?
That's quite a compliment, I appreciate that! Yes, they were indeed deliberate to further emphasize aspects of the story and the characters. It was so interesting for me to learn about as well. Nice question! I have always felt that Satie's music is quite atmospheric and enigmatic and I thought it would suit the topic well. He was quite unique and eccentric himself so it only added to the video's theme. Thanks so much for watching and commenting!
I've always thought it interesting that as WHTBJ was filming in Hollywood, Marilyn Monroe died in Hollywood. When Blanche finds the checkbook, it is dated August 9th 1962, one day after MM's funeral. Two old fading stars, and a young iconic star, both out of favor as films, society and the world were changing rapidly.
I saw this film when it first came out in the theaters. I was 10 years old and became a big fan of both Davis and Crawford, more so Crawford. Didn't know I was watching a classic, but I remember loving this movie and taking my mother to see it. Your video is excellent, by the way!
Hi Miriam. Thanks for alerting me to your newest video. Simply amazing! The clips you choose are so pertinent to your comments. A very creative approach tying Baby Jane to pre-Code movies. I first saw it on its network tv premiere and it caused a sensation. Aldrich’s use of the Pacific Ocean beach echoes Kiss Me Deadly. No wheres else to go. That Davis and Crawford could transition their careers into Grand Guignol was quite a risk. The Satie music was the icing on the cake for me. I’m re-watching tonight.
Thank you so much for your comment, Roger. I am so happy you think that and that you will be rewatching it. I really put all my might in this one so this kind of feedback is fabulous. That's a good point about the Pacific Ocean, it is true that both films end on the beach. I loved using Satie's music as well, glad you enjoyed it. Thanks again!
One of the main differences between the novel “What Ever Happened to Baby Jane?” and the movie occurs in the scene when Blanche is watching her old movie on TV. In the movie, Blanche says how good the picture was and how the critics called it brilliant; in the book, as Blanche watches the movie, she can’t believe how silly it was. One can only speculate as to why such a change was made.
That's really interesting. Based on what I have been gathering, the choice of these films was deliberate so probably was to further emphasize the difference between the sisters and what the actors themselves thought about their actual careers and films from that period.
Very interesting to study the pre-code films as they relate to Baby Jane and Blanche Hudson. I would love to see a video on Bette Davis’s pre-code films, because most people don’t know that side of her. Also, I hate hearing that Bette Davis was ugly. She had a unique look and was very cute and pretty, in her pre-code films like Ex-Lady. Ex-Lady was supposed to be her first film as a leading lady, but Joan Crawford divorced Douglas Fairbanks Jr. on the same day as the premiere of Ex-Lady, so Joan Crawford got all the press and it hurt Bette’s first big chance. Both actresses were great, but Bette was more theatrical and Joan was always a film star.
I'm a big fan of "Baby Jane," What a showcase for two divas! Bette Davis, however, totally stole the movie with her performance as the deranged adult Baby Hane Hudson!
I always have thought Joan did the best acting in WHTBJ. Bette as great of an actress as she is played the crazy part of Baby Jane to far. Joan on the other hand used far more restraint in portraying Blanche. I can see her vulnerability and physical limitations much more than Baby Jane's antic's. The fact that both sister's are mentally ill (Baby Jane much more so ), drives the intensity of their sibling rivalry even further. I would have deleted the scene where Jane kill's Blanche's bird because she already gave put a dead rat on her meal tray earlier. The overhead shot of Blanche circling her wheelchair over and over in her room during her final mental break was brilliantly filmed. The cinematographer should have received an Oscar as well. Anne Bancroft did deserved her Oscar for the film "The Miracle Worker" but I also think Joan should have got the Oscar also. Bette should have been nominated and nobody including Joan should have denied Bette a Oscar nomination. Patty Duke should have received a very special award for " The Miracle Worker" just for her but not the Oscar. I find it hard to have someone under 18, and a child at that be placed in the same nominations as an adult. A Great film and wonderful acting by Bette and Joan. Bette was robbed of an Oscar for the film "Of Human Bondage". What a performance !!!!
Kudos to Crawford as this project was her brainchild. Also, it simply cannot be overstated just how beautiful Crawford still was during this period, even with the over-the-hill attire and makeup the role called for. She was a stunning looking and uber glamorous woman and her iconic face was made for tight close-ups. This film and 'Sunset Boulevard' both share the fading façade of a bygone age, particularly in Crawford's case as she was originally a creation of the silent era, à la Gloria Swanson.
The dress and makeup....I knew they were famous actresses, but their makeup got increasingly disturbing. I knew they were beautiful, but that's not what the makeup as about. It was haggard and frightening. First movie I noticed it could be used to make people scary instead of beautiful.
Really great! This is a university level film class! I've never considered the use of Bette and Joan's old movies in this film as anything other than a neat feature that adds authenticity. From your video I can see that the choices must have been deliberate, and that adds a great deal! Thanks for this very revealing study!
Does your use of Satie's music have deeper meaning or did you just feel it sounded nice?
That's quite a compliment, I appreciate that! Yes, they were indeed deliberate to further emphasize aspects of the story and the characters. It was so interesting for me to learn about as well.
Nice question! I have always felt that Satie's music is quite atmospheric and enigmatic and I thought it would suit the topic well. He was quite unique and eccentric himself so it only added to the video's theme. Thanks so much for watching and commenting!
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One of those classic lines my best gay friend and I exchange. LOved that movie! Scared the life out of me when I as little!
Very good video. Thanks for your hard work and editing. Now I want to watch all those movies.
I really appreciate that, thank you for that. You can check the description box for links for some of the films.
I've always thought it interesting that as WHTBJ was filming in Hollywood, Marilyn Monroe died in Hollywood. When Blanche finds the checkbook, it is dated August 9th 1962, one day after MM's funeral. Two old fading stars, and a young iconic star, both out of favor as films, society and the world were changing rapidly.
Interesting point of view, thank you for watching. I hope you find the video's perspective interesting, too.
If you’ve never seen the show Feud Bette and Joan, it’s done extremely well and worth a watch. It shows the story of them filming Baby Jane.
I saw this film when it first came out in the theaters. I was 10 years old and became a big fan of both Davis and Crawford, more so Crawford. Didn't know I was watching a classic, but I remember loving this movie and taking my mother to see it.
Your video is excellent, by the way!
It must have been amazing to watch it on the big screen and so impactful at such a young age. Thank you for sharing that and for your compliment!
Watch Crawford in RAIN.
Such an intelligent and rich point of view that is a college course in part of film history...thank you.
So grateful to receive such feedback, I really appreciate that.
thank you for this! very enlightening.
Really interesting , thankyou
What a fascinating way to re-assess "Baby Jane"! Thank you for it.
Thanks for watching.
I loved this! Fascinating!!
Great to hear that!
Hi Miriam. Thanks for alerting me to your newest video. Simply amazing! The clips you choose are so pertinent to your comments. A very creative approach tying Baby Jane to pre-Code movies. I first saw it on its network tv premiere and it caused a sensation. Aldrich’s use of the Pacific Ocean beach echoes Kiss Me Deadly. No wheres else to go. That Davis and Crawford could transition their careers into Grand Guignol was quite a risk. The Satie music was the icing on the cake for me. I’m re-watching tonight.
Thank you so much for your comment, Roger. I am so happy you think that and that you will be rewatching it. I really put all my might in this one so this kind of feedback is fabulous. That's a good point about the Pacific Ocean, it is true that both films end on the beach. I loved using Satie's music as well, glad you enjoyed it. Thanks again!
It was actually Joan’s idea to adapt the novel into a feature with her and Bette.
One of the main differences between the novel “What Ever Happened to Baby Jane?” and the movie occurs in the scene when Blanche is watching her old movie on TV. In the movie, Blanche says how good the picture was and how the critics called it brilliant; in the book, as Blanche watches the movie, she can’t believe how silly it was. One can only speculate as to why such a change was made.
That's really interesting. Based on what I have been gathering, the choice of these films was deliberate so probably was to further emphasize the difference between the sisters and what the actors themselves thought about their actual careers and films from that period.
I always enjoy your videos, theya re so well-researched and interesting. thank you!
Nice to hear that!
Very interesting to study the pre-code films as they relate to Baby Jane and Blanche Hudson. I would love to see a video on Bette Davis’s pre-code films, because most people don’t know that side of her. Also, I hate hearing that Bette Davis was ugly. She had a unique look and was very cute and pretty, in her pre-code films like Ex-Lady. Ex-Lady was supposed to be her first film as a leading lady, but Joan Crawford divorced Douglas Fairbanks Jr. on the same day as the premiere of Ex-Lady, so Joan Crawford got all the press and it hurt Bette’s first big chance. Both actresses were great, but Bette was more theatrical and Joan was always a film star.
I just stumbled upon your TH-cam channel and immediately subscribed. I love your work. I'm going to go on a binge watching your previous videos
Excellent video essay both in text and images..... thank you !!!
Thank you for watching!
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A great film!
I'm a big fan of "Baby Jane," What a showcase for two divas! Bette Davis, however, totally stole the movie with her performance as the deranged adult Baby Hane Hudson!
Her musical number "I'm writing a letter to Daddee" was a fearless move on Bette's part. She was about the character, not her looks or stardom...
I always have thought Joan did the best acting in WHTBJ.
Bette as great of an actress as she is played the crazy part of Baby Jane to far.
Joan on the other hand used far more restraint in portraying Blanche.
I can see her vulnerability and physical limitations much more than Baby Jane's antic's.
The fact that both sister's are mentally ill (Baby Jane much more so ), drives the intensity of their sibling rivalry even further.
I would have deleted the scene where Jane kill's Blanche's bird because she already gave put a dead rat on her meal tray earlier.
The overhead shot of Blanche circling her wheelchair over and over in her room during her final mental break was brilliantly filmed.
The cinematographer should have received an Oscar as well.
Anne Bancroft did deserved her Oscar for the film
"The Miracle Worker" but I also think Joan should have got the Oscar also.
Bette should have been nominated and nobody including Joan should have denied Bette a Oscar nomination.
Patty Duke should have received a very special award for " The Miracle Worker" just for her but not the Oscar.
I find it hard to have someone under 18, and a child at that be placed in the same nominations as an adult.
A Great film and wonderful acting by Bette and Joan.
Bette was robbed of an Oscar for the film "Of Human Bondage".
What a performance !!!!
I enjoyed this film, oh j also recognized the actor who played King Tut on the Batman TV series
Victor Bueno.
Kudos to Crawford as this project was her brainchild. Also, it simply cannot be overstated just how beautiful Crawford still was during this period, even with the over-the-hill attire and makeup the role called for. She was a stunning looking and uber glamorous woman and her iconic face was made for tight close-ups. This film and 'Sunset Boulevard' both share the fading façade of a bygone age, particularly in Crawford's case as she was originally a creation of the silent era, à la Gloria Swanson.
The dress and makeup....I knew they were famous actresses, but their makeup got increasingly disturbing. I knew they were beautiful, but that's not what the makeup as about. It was haggard and frightening. First movie I noticed it could be used to make people scary instead of beautiful.