I was not on a desert island, but I came to faith in solitary confinement in prison. I did not know the original languages. I was not brought up in the church, but I saw the gifts clearly in Scripture and began to speak in tongues myself. Later, I tried to reject this, but I have been convinced once again from Scripture that these are for today.
I have been in and out the Pentecostal church because the reformed faith and doctrines seem the most biblically accurate … except for one thing… SPIRITUAL GIFTS! I cannot deny the beautiful experiences of speaking in tongues and being filled with the Holy Spirit. Thank you, Pastor Brown, for this video.
I refuse to believe that tongues that I speak when praying to the Lord is gibberish, I know that I know that I know I am speaking to our Father. Call me crazy if you want to.. I run out of things to pray, especially when I am living in compromise.. I sound like a broken record, asking for “relational forgiveness” over and over; as well as sometimes I tell people that I will pray for them and I forget to.. but I guarantee the Spirit didn’t forget when I pray a short prayer in tongues !! I will use tongues until the day I go and be with the Lord. Thank you for this message Dr brown
@@justinnicholson7774 African clicking languages sounds like gibberish or something made up, but they are still languages. It’s the same with tongues. Languages in their simplest forms are sounds put together to communicate or convey a message.
It's interesting that the position of so many of the critics boils down to "If it ain't coming out of my chimney, it ain't smoke." They judge the validity of the gift based on their experience (or lack thereof) rather than judge it by the promise and proclamation of Scripture. What could we receive from the good hand of God if we simply believed that He meant what He said?
@@robineggblue-bp3rq "so many" does not mean "everyone." Furthermore, "no mention of it in the Bible"? Are Acts 2, Acts 10, Acts 19, and 1 Cor. 12-14 in your Bible?
@@DryvBy "Where this first came from" is the Word of God. Satan always counterfeits what is genuine, so looking at Hindu rituals does not undermine what is authentic.
I just wanted to tell you that there are two different ways to speak in tongues. One where it's a prayer language like you heard the 120 speaking and everyone thought they were drunk and they were speaking in many different languages. That other nations heard their language being spoken praising God. This is a prayer language where we speak To God. There is no need for interpretation then there's The gift of tongues and the interpretation of tongues . It is here that When a person gives a mess in tongues or needs to be someone there who has a gift of interpretation to interpret it. I hope you listen to Michael Brown explanation here
@@dblportion.yes, that’s one kind of tongue. But there are other kinds of tongues where the Holy Spirit does speak to men through us. That’s why it’s called tongueS, plural. Multiple kinds of tongues.
1 Corinthians 14:2 (NLT) For if you have the ability to speak in tongues, you will be talking only to God, since people won’t be able to understand you. You will be speaking by the power of the Spirit, but it will all be mysterious. Tongues is a multi fold gift. Paul generalizes the gift in 1 Corinthians. It’s seems that he is talking about tongues being used in more than one way. I believe this is one those subjects that he goes more in depth in person. Only a tongue message from God to the church (public) requires interpretation: 1 Corinthians 14:27-28 (NLT) 27 No more than two or three should speak in tongues. They must speak one at a time, and someone must interpret what they say. 28 But if no one is present who can interpret, they must be silent in your church meeting and speak in tongues to God privately. Tongues used for praise and prayer (private/personal) does not require interpretation, but we should pray for it. This “type” shouldn’t be spoken out loud to disrupt the service or cause confusion: 1 Corinthians 14:4 (NLT) A person who speaks in tongues is strengthened personally, but one who speaks a word of prophecy strengthens the entire church. 1 Corinthians 14:13-15 (NLT) 13 So anyone who speaks in tongues should pray also for the ability to interpret what has been said. 14 For if I pray in tongues, my spirit is praying, but I don’t understand what I am saying. 15 Well then, what shall I do? I will pray in the spirit, and I will also pray in words I understand. I will sing in the spirit, and I will also sing in words I understand.
Your experience is almost exactly as mine. I also tried to understand the cessation point of view. Started reading “Strange Fire” book a few years ago. I couldn’t finish it. It was so contradictory to what I knew. Tried to stop speaking in tongues. Could not. I love my cessationist brothers and sisters. But cannot give up believing in and using the gift God has given me.
I have a problem when some people say all should pray in tongues, when Paul clearly says that not all will pray in tongues, and that we all have different gifts. In some circles those who do not speak tongues are made to feel inferior or not spiritual. I do believe in the gift, but I believe alot of what I have seen is fake.
I think one thing is speaking in tongues privately ,which is for everyone, and another is the gift of tongues which refers to a public speaking with interpretation - not everyone will do that. I think that is what Paul refered to.
Thank you for this, I’m at a point in my life where I am deciding if I want to continue with the gifts or not. Two Churches with different beliefs and I am excited to see where God wills me. Thanks for refreshing my memory
Amen everyone in my congregation speaks in tongues. Apostolic to the bone. If you ever come to Calgary Alberta Canada join us Calgary Showers of Blessings Apostolic Church.
My biggest problem is how Christians just suddenly turn this on (tongues). It's confusing me to a point where I'm about to leave my church. Please remember me in prayer.
I understand. They don't know what they're doing. Try to talk with your pastor. See what he has to say. Changing churches is not wrong. I can see you're seeking God. He will guide you
I started praying in tongues yesterday, after arguing against it for a long time. After doing it again a few times today, it's like my mouth wants to speak in tongues. It feels like before you want to yawn.
Thank you so much for going over this. I struggle with tongues since it is so irrational to me. step 1) say some syllables no one including you understand step 2) ask yourself was that random syllables or some bible spiritual language? step 3) have a control group and an experimental group... lol except absolutely everything for an indeterminate period of time into the future is the possible subject matter... step 4) asking myself Why in the world is this in the Bible?? step 5) watching your video
sometimes I have thought about listening to tongues and then writing down what I think it is saying in the spirit. Then asking people at church what did they say and seeing if the interpretation is similar. Is this testing God, or trying to improve my spiritual accuracy???
I have never 'spoken in tongues,' and I've had powerful experiences with the Lord in prayer. However, I believe it (tongues) can happen if the Lord wills it to happen for other people. To me, it doesn't matter what comes forth in the flesh, so much as what's in the Spirit, in your mind, that matters, whether in *total silence* or spoken in tongues. I'd not think either is superior or inferior, only different, and to be used for different people at different times for different reasons. 🙂 Another interesting consideration is Romans 8:26. Paul writes that the Holy Spirit intercedes for us in groanings that cannot be expressed in words, which could be happening when you speak in tongues?
@@cindywilson6779 Pursue God for knowing God, not pursue the 'gift'. Once our minds are in the right place in seeking Jesus in Spirit and in Truth, then He will see fit to know that He can add gifts if necessary.
Dr. Brown, wouldn't video with sound, of the missionary communication with the isolated tribes be, in itself, the basis of a wonderful testimony for faith generating motivation and confirmation of God's use of miracles in a "normal" or common means of sharing the Gospel? Can you ask your missionary friends to record the outreaches? Do they already have some of those events already recorded, since "the happen at least 3 times a month"?
Currently reading Charles Sullivan and Philip Blosser's work on this subject that is very interesting and informative. There are a lot of views and perspectives on tongues that are truly unbiblical. Also, reading R A Torrey's input on baptism of the Spirit.
I'm amazed at these brilliant Bible scholars that have all the gifts of the Spirit but are unable to identify wolves like Kenneth Copeland (and many others). Stevie Wonder is able to see these countless T.V. crooks and scammers for what they really are with no gifting of the Holy Spirit...... I pray that these teachers with all their influence receive the gift of a back bone......
Based on what you said earlier, about how if you had perfect Greek on an island, can you tell me what type of “if” statement is being used in 1 Cor 13? Therefore, can you honestly say how someone with perfect Koine Greek and taught by the Holy Spirit would understand it?
1 Corinthians 14 says you should have 2-3 people interpret your tongues. If you reject the apostle paul then you reject wisdom and favor your pride more than the Lord
Dr. Brown with all due respect. I feel it’s important to correct your understanding of Acts 10. Verse 45 says that those of the circumcision were astonished! (These had come with Peter.) Since Cornelius is a Roman, it’s not unreasonable to think that there was people of multiple languages in their company. And as this was the sign to the Jews that the spirit had been poured out on the Gentiles. Which fulfilled the vision Peter had at the beginning of the chapter. This is why Paul in 1 Corinthians 14:22 says tongues are for a sign not for those that believe, but for those who believe not. (The Jews that didn’t believe Gods spirit could be poured out on Gentiles). Not to be abrasive but the scripture really couldn’t be more clear that the tounges were known languages. 1 Corinthians 14 is clearly a rebuke because they were obviously doing something that probably resembled what goes on today in the charismatic movement. “And even things without life giving sound, whether pipe or harp, except they give a distinction in the sounds, how shall it be known what is piped or harped? For if the trumpet give an uncertain sound, who shall prepare himself to the battle? So likewise ye, except ye utter by the tongue words easy to be understood, how shall it be known what is spoken? for ye shall speak into the air. There are, it may be, so many kinds of voices in the world, and none of them is without signification.” 1 Corinthians 14:7-10 It doesn’t take much discernment to see that Paul’s telling them that anything with a voice makes sense to someone. “If the trumpet gives an uncertain sound how can I prepare for battle” For any scripture that you can point to, to Further your argument can easily be explained as known languages. I tell you all this out of love. I respect all of Gods creation. I’m not a cessationist. I believe God can do what he wants. But what’s interesting is, I know 100’s of people who speak in tongues. But I’ve never met one person with the Gift of healing. It seems to me that if God was gonna pour out one particular gift on his people. The gift of healing, or prophecy, or wisdom would be much more beneficial to the advancement of the kingdom. “But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.” Matthew 6:7 Notice how the Lord says the heathen pray that way. If you read the beginning of 1 Corinthians 12, concerning spiritual gifts that gentiles are easily lead away by dumb idols. I do not want to be argumentative but I feel it’s very important to right divide the Word of truth.
I hate we can tell like the tone, or sarcasm Paul wrote or spoke in, seems to me more sarcastically facetious & true speaking or writing, seems He is being sarcastic yet TRUTH , (yet in the church I would rather speak five words with my understanding, that I may teach others also, than ten thousand words in a tongue
You had me up until, "birthing" things in the Spirit. The videos I have seen of people doing this are nothing short of terrifying and definitely not exhibiting the spiritual gift of self-control. If, as you say, the Word is supreme...can you show me one place where it clearly says in Scripture that somebody was birthing something in the Spirit, and that it was as violent and boisterous as a natural birth can be apart from anesthesia? As far as I can tell, you are taking metaphoric phrases from Paul and making them into a theology. I am most certainly a cessationist when it comes to the office of apostle, but I am open to the real gift of tongues, which not every Christian will have even if they ask. That was not mentioned in this video and I think it's an important biblical point.
Those present on the Day of Pentecost "heard" the Gospel preached in 16 different known languages. Act 2:8 And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born? Act 2:9 Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia, Act 2:10 Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes, Act 2:11 Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God. Act 2:12 And they were all amazed, and were in doubt, saying one to another, What meaneth this?
In the Greek, the phrase “in their native language” modifies the verb “speaking” in verse 6, not the verb “hearing.” There was no “miracle of hearing” at Pentecost.
@@kavikv.d.hexenholtz3474 Based on what the Apostle Paul said below, "hearing" is a part of the salvation process. A person must "hear" the Gospel and "believe" the Gospel, and then be "sealed" with the Holy Spirit. Eph 1:12 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ. Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
@@SpotterVideo What I meant by the comment, and perhaps I misunderstood your comment, is that the apostles weren't "speaking in tongues" and the crowd heard them speaking in their languages. The argument is moot anyway as with respect to Pentecost, the apostles weren't speaking any language they didn't already know, but that's a story for another day.
@@SpotterVideo the scriptures never said they heard the gospel. To say so is adding to the scriptures. It was the sign/wonder that drew them. They heard in their own languages the praises (the (megaleios) great things /wonderful works of God. Acts 2:11 (LSB) Cretans and Arabs--we hear them in our own tongues speaking of the mighty deeds of God.”
Umm tongues for the unbeliever is literally what happened at Pentecost. They heard them speaking in their natives tongues the wonderful works of God. It was a miracle of speaking and a miracle of understanding. Those unbelievers who understood were convinced of the power and presence of God. Then afterwards Peter spoke the gospel and 3,000 were saved. There are different varieties of tongues. Tongues as a sign to unbelievers which is a known language on the earth. Tongues used in body of Christ. This is a message from God to us and comes with an interpretation. Then there is the private tongue or prayer which is from our spirit to God. It’s not meant to be understood because it is a heavenly language which no one on the earth can understand. It’s to be used privately and not in a church setting. The issue is that there’s no way to tell the difference between them unless there is an interpretation. If there’s no interpretation then it wasn’t the gift of tongues, it was the private tongue. Paul was giving them freedom to speak in tongues but also order in how to properly communicate in a church setting. Speak out in faith but be quiet if there is no interpretation.
There is no private prayer tongue. If you really study all of I Cor 14 you will see that Paul wants people to pray with the understanding, or pray understanding themselves. They CANNOT edify themselves unless they understand themselves.
“There are different kinds of gifts, but the same Spirit distributes them. Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good.” ”DO all have the same Gifts ? Are all the same body part members? To each one “HE” gives as HE wants, (do all have the same gifts,are all the same members of the body? Does the hands do the same as the feet, does the mouth do the same as the ears ? Different “BODY members do different things yet all useful , directed by THE HEAD, do all speak in tongues? Do all stand on a stage? Do all have podcasts? Are all plumbers? LORD GOD Holy Spirit use us all & may we do it according to YOUR WORD
Could you do a segment on how to speak in tongues? I see it in Scripture but there are contradictions in how to do it within the charismatic community. Some have told me you just “do it” and others say it is an experience that happens to you that is out of your control. Thanks.
I've never spoken in tongues myself but I'd say just don't even worry about it. If the Lord wants you to speak in tongues, He will lead you. I've had experiences where I know 100% it was the Lord, but no speaking in tongues. It's not necessary for the Lord to get His point across. Again, don't worry about it. 🙂 I think what everyone should think about is how they can take more time out to *be still and know that He is God.* Psalm 46:10 🙂
Paul said in 1 Cor. 14 that "...I WILL pray in the Spirit, I WILL pray with the understanding..." Just like you can pray in your understanding at will, once you have been baptized in the Holy Spirit and received that gift of tongues, then you can pray it any time you want, just like when you pray in English (or your native language) any time you want. Paul also said in 1 Cor. 14, "If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret. But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God." If tongues were out of your control you would not be able to follow Paul's instructions here. So again, once you are baptized in the Holy Spirit and have the ability to speak in tongues, you can yield to them any time you want. You have full control of it. Remember Dr Brown saying he prayed 5 mins, then 10 minutes, and got to where he prayed an hour a day. That was under his control. You can pray as much or as little as you want.
I have never really struggled with speaking in tongues (however I struggle with how irrational it seems). There are people in church who have like two syllables let's say "do" and "bee" and they like do SOS with just these two syllables... is this tongues.... ?? I usually stay away from saying something is not of the Spirit unless I have direct Biblical evidence to the contrary. I guess my advice is to have fun with it. While driving alone just start making up gibberish and get used to the patterns it makes. If you think to yourself, "I have never used a 'w' sound... then add a w sound... if you ?sense? it was wrong somehow then don't use it... For instance we are told to read, know, and understand the Bible. The Holy Spirit strings bible verses together in our minds and hearts into guidance... instead of bible verses you're stringing together syllables. At first just make paths of gibberish like someone who doesn't know how to play piano etc... do certain syllables give you different feedback like music? And then before too long you aren't even thinking about the patterns most of the time. You are focused more on the song than the notes. You're moving through the forest and no longer categorizing trees.
This would be great! I’m pretty sure I know what Dr. Brown would say but I’d love to hear the way he says it because he is very good at making thinks simple to understand.
This wasn't a very good explanation it was more about his personal experience & feelings rather than scriptural descriptions his hypothetical scenario of speaking tongues in a foreign language amongst a group that all spoke the same language would serve no purpose because no one in that group would be able to understand anyway highlights what Paul said if there no one to interpret let him be silent also would speaking in gibberish be any better as if those present can differentiate between a foreign language or gibberish.him calling it a moot point is itself a moot point
1 Corinthians 14:13 Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret. 14:14 For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful. 14:15 What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also.
This chapter is very important to understanding the topic. Many of the verses can be better understood by preceding verses or following verses. Verse 15 is VERY important. Paul wants people to pray in a language they understand.
Does everyone speak in tongues? If it’s a “Gift is it given to all?…… does every believer have all the gifts ? We believe it’s for today but also have other questions, like do most churches even do it as the BIBLE say so in the congregations?
@@RJ-vq1iv I go to a church that believes that the baptism of the Holy Ghost comes with the evidence of speaking in tongues, but in my reading of Scripture I've not found it written that way. "1 Corinthians 12:29 Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles? 12:30 Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?" I believe the scripture says the baptism of the Holy Ghost/Spirit comes when a person is born again. "Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his." The true evidence of the baptism of the Holy Ghost is told in , "1 Corinthians 12:31 But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way." And chapter 13 tells us the excellent way. Charity ( LOVE) "Matthew 5:43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;" This love can only come through the baptism of the Holy Ghost. And that is the True Evidence.
According to 1 Corinthians 12:4-11 different gifts are given to different believers -- one might be given the gift of preaching or teaching, another prophecies, another healings, and others tongues, etc.
Were you baptized according to Acts 2:38? Just like Peter preached to his fellow Jews on the day of Pentecost? Just asking cause you know the words father, son, and holy ghost aren't names, but titles.
Dr. Michael Brown says at 11:35 that "In my mind, I can be talking to God about one thing, and while speaking in tongues, it was coming from a different part of my being." I don't see how this squares with 1 Corinthians 14:15 which says "What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also; I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also." In the context, which I recommend you look at, Paul is not advocating praying with your mind while your mouth makes unintelligible gibberish. I know this, because Paul concludes by saying "yet in the church I would rather speak five words with my understanding, that I may teach others also, than ten thousand words in a tongue." So all the modern-gibberish-tongues in the world (which is not the biblical gift of tongues) is not worth 5 words of actual words spoken with understanding.
Yea, thats Pauls entire point. Brown doesnt disagree, its his entire point. Thats why Paul says tongues only edifies the inidividual and prophecy is better because it edifies people around you. Paul would rather speak 5 telligable words people can understand while in PUBLIC, than speaking his angel language tongue that he does in private more than any of them. Pauls entire rebuke was that they were doing it too much in public, and that for the public, they need to focus on things that edify the public, not just the individual. So how is Paul saying its wrong? Hes saying its good. But only for the edifying of the individual. Do you see Brown up here speaking in tongues? No. Because Brown is obeying Pauls counsel. If he werent, then Brown would be making videos speaking unknown tongue. Paul says he will do both, but he doesnt say he'll do both in the church! Youre adding whats not there! I suggest the context of scripture, not your beliefs.
‘Tongues’ (read, *‘languages’* ) - the divine gift, is the God/Holy Spirit given ability to effortlessly learn to speak and be understood through real-language barriers. It is not xenoglossy (as many people incorrectly assume), nor is it the self-created non-cognitive non-language utterance of what certain Christian denominations are producing today (modern tongues-speech). The “tongues” Pentecostal and Charismatic Christians are producing today is an entirely self-created phenomenon. It is non-cognitive non-language utterance; random free vocalization based upon a subset of the existing underlying sounds (called phonemes) of the speaker’s native language, and any other language(s) the speaker may be familiar with or have had contact with. It is, in part, typically characterized by repetitive syllables, plays on sound patterns, alliteration, assonance, and over-simplification of syllable structure. The "nail in the coffin", so-to-speak, is that _any and all_ phonological rules (rules governing how sounds are put together in a given language - what is allowed and what is disallowed) governing a speaker's native language, will _also_ govern their tongues-speech. That fact alone negates anything that can be construed as 'divine' in nature and cements that fact that it is a self-created phenomenon. Further, this subset of phonemes mentioned above typically contains only those sounds which are easiest to produce physiologically. Occasionally some speakers will use two or more subsets of phonemes to generate glossolalia, producing what, to them, sounds like two (or more) distinct “tongues languages”, thus claiming to be able to speak in “divers tongues”. There is absolutely _nothing_ that “tongues-speakers” are producing that cannot be explained in relatively simple linguistic terms. Conversely, when it comes to something spoken, there are absolutely _no_ Biblical references to “tongues” that do not refer to, and cannot be explained in light of, real rational language(s), though it may not be the explanation you want to hear, and it may be one which is radically different from what you believe, or were taught. _Nowhere_ in the Bible is modern tongues-speech advocated or evidenced. “Praying in the Spirit” does _not_ refer to the words one is saying. Rather, it refers to how one is praying. In the three places it is used (Corinthians, Ephesians, and Jude), there is absolutely zero reference to 'languages' in connection with this phrase. “Praying in the Spirit” should be understood as praying in the power of the Spirit, by the leading of the Spirit, and according to His will.
Amen. It is amazing how Satan has infiltrated this church with falsehoods and false gifts that bring shame and reproach on the name of Christ. People are so desperate for supernatural gifts, they are willing to accept a counterfeit.
I do not attend a charismatic church so this is second hand info so take that as you will. I have a friend who is charismatic and i was told about a time where a woman starts speaking in tongues and there is a guy that stood up and commanded her in Jesus name to speak in english and she was cursing God. So if you do believe speaking in tongues still happens then that is one good reason why you need an interpreter because you have snakes out there.
I’ve head many speak in tongues, but never no interpreter or interpretation, in the BIBLE there is instructions Do’s/dont’s even says if it’s not done like this , just shut up, don’t do it, ain’t never heard any preacher/ pastors- talk about that but it’s in THE WORD
It doesn’t say “shut up” as not to say they shouldn’t speak at all it says leave them alone to pray by themselves as its between them and God. But if there is no interpreter, let him keep silent in church, and LET HIM speak to himself and to God. 1 Corinthians 14:28
It also says it's unfruitful if it's not interpreted. 1 Corinthians 14:13 Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret. 14:14 For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful. 14:15 What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also.
If there is no interpreter, the speaker should keep quiet in the church and speak to himself and to God,( be silent in the church-keep silent-remain silent-) there are certain ways Paul says in the BIBLE does & dont. Never heard anyone talk preach on it but GOD has something to say about it, rather listen to HIM than my own thinking/ thoughts or any other man/ person
I've begun to realize that great men of God, who have done wonderful works like Dr. Michael Brown, also have devastating errors 2 Corinthains 12:7 "And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure." If Dr. Brown did not have such errors, he would be exalted too highly, it seems.
You are not speaking in tongues. Unless multiple nationalities who speak different languages can understand what you say at the same time. Yes.....NOOOOOO!
An anecdotal observation in 47 years as a believer (saved and then discipled in a charismatic tradition): almost without exception I have observed that those who practice the charismatic gifts, particularly tongues, but prophecy as well, are people who have had a history of some kind of substance abuse. I think a clear and plain reading and interpretation of Scripture makes it clear that of course those gifts have ceased. Following the patterns of the Old and New Testament one cannot help but come to the conclusion that the need for and the use of the "sign gifts" is no longer necessary.
Why is speaking in tongues always associated with The Pentecostal church? I felt kind of down when Dr. Brown revealed that he grew up in a Pentecostal church. Doesn’t seem too surprising as he was most likely indoctrinated and he listened to these “tongue speakers” often. You don’t hear of this is other denominations very often like you do in the Pentecostal denomination. From what I understand there wasn’t much of this since the time of Christ, and then in the early 1900’s there was “The Charismatic” movement including 2 co-founding preachers Charles Parham and William Seymour, and they made the claim that “Baptism in the Holy Spirit” took on a newly defined meaning which became “Speaking in tongues”. Seemed like it really took off from there and diverts from scripture. Charles Parham then opened The Bethel Bible college and then REALLY started to push this stuff. Speaking in tongues was a special gift from God so that the Word could be spread to people in multiple languages. I have no doubt. I have a couple friends that go to a church in a near by city, and they preach that everyone can learn how to do this to “increase your relationship with God and increase the answers to your prayers.” God is omnipresent and omnipotent. He knows what you’re going to ask for and knows what you are going to say, tomorrow and 50 years from now. Why do you need a special language to communicate with Him? Everything about this makes my stomach turn. Feels like a bad warning. Maybe the odd person might have had this gift bestowed on them by God, but all in all, I think most people are making it up or their minds are just twisted and they are convincing themselves that they can do this. Either way it goes away from scripture, and living 2000 years post Christ, and the fact that pretty much every Bible has been translated to every language that is in existence today, why would God need to grant this gift of Tongues which means “Languages” by the way, in the plural. Doesn’t seem to be a need for it anymore.
The gift of tongues and prophecy never left the church. The early church fathers wrote about it. St. Augustine spoke in tongues. Other saints in history were known to speak in tongues and prophesy. There are accounts during the reformation and the great awakenings. William Booth, the founder of the Salvation Army spoke in tongues. There are accounts from the Cane Ridge and Welsh revivals. Why the explosion in the 1900s? I reason, I believe people were desiring more of God. In the early 1900s people weren’t seeking gift. They were seeking for encounters with the gift-giver.
i have no evidence for my theory i dont know if it exists either. but when referencing speaking in tongues in 1 Corinthians 14 so much of what paul talks about could be taken as speaking philosophically or just deep spiritual truths that edify the person but if they can't fully explain it to someone. When Jesus spoke a lot of times people couldn't understand anything he said it would sound like gibberish/hard sayings they dont understand and therefore he would then have to explain even further what it meant. we could be speaking the same language but be speaking different tongues. is reciting the Our Father not heavenly speech? you can pray the Our Father and your spirit is lifted up but your mind may not understand what you are saying. again i have no evidence for this but its just a thought.
It is so sad to see my favourite Messianic scholars and Trinitarian Hero ,being Deceived by spirit of the ages and following false Practice that have never been practiced by the very followers of the apostles and only developed lately 100 years ago😢😢😢
Forms of ecstatic speech, similar to what some might call "gibberish babbling," have been found in various pagan religions throughout history, such as the frenzied rituals of the Dionysian rites in ancient Greece, shamanistic practices, and tribal ceremonies in Africa, where individuals entered trance-like states and produced unintelligible sounds. This demonic act has made its way into the Christian church sadly, and is not from God. The scripture is clear that we ought to pray with our understanding, and not to make utterances that have no meaning, 1 Corinthians 14:15 "I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also; I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also." In the context, which I recommend you look at, Paul is not advocating praying with your mind while your mouth makes unintelligible gibberish. Paul concludes by saying "yet in the church I would rather speak five words with my understanding, that I may teach others also, than ten thousand words in a tongue."
Not the way I see those scriptures. Thanks for calling me and others who love the Lord, demonic. You know that Peter once enter into a trace, right? I guess he was demonic. I guess the prophets in the Bible were fake because pagan had their own and psychics too. By your logic that is the case. Also your comment has nothing to do with what I posted. John 10:10 (NLT) The thief’s purpose is to steal and kill and destroy. My purpose is to give them a rich and satisfying life.
@@YehudaHalevi247 I said the practice of speaking in pagan babel gibberish is demonic, I did not call you or anyone demonic directly, though if you are currently engaged in demonic activity on a regular basis, one certainly should question why. I have been around enough so-called "tongue speakers", I have heard their nonsense, and with discernment I can confidently say, that is not from God, and brings shame and reproach on the name of Christ, who is not the author of confusion.
Tongues today is just gibberish. Mysteries. Paul was not very happy about that. Gibberish equals babbling. Babbling equals the practices of Babel where God confounded the languages.. Mystery Babylon right now! Not good.
@@joopfennis8272 1 Corinthians 14:39 says, "Therefore, brethren, covet to prophesy and forbid not to speak in tongues". 1 Corinthians 14:2 in the Bible says, "For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for NO MAN understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries"
Speaking mysteries to God? And to whom will that benefit? Who will be edified? Not the church! And was Paul happy with speaking mysteries? Ik dacht het niet. Ik kan hier wel kenbaar maken dat ik gered ben door Jezus Christus, maar wie kan hier 'amen' op zeggen? This is Dutch most of you need interpretation here. So, I was only writing to God. Mysteries for most of you. Are you happy now?
@@joopfennis8272 it’s ok, just obey the plain language of the Bible, and desire to prophesy, and don’t forbid speaking in tongues, be very careful beautiful believer what you call of the devil, you’re treading the line of the unforgivable sin, it says NO MAN can understand it, you may scoff and mock it as “gibberish” but our thoughts are not God’s thoughts and His ways are higher than ours, don’t think you can box God into your errant unbiblical theology
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I was not on a desert island, but I came to faith in solitary confinement in prison. I did not know the original languages. I was not brought up in the church, but I saw the gifts clearly in Scripture and began to speak in tongues myself. Later, I tried to reject this, but I have been convinced once again from Scripture that these are for today.
I have been in and out the Pentecostal church because the reformed faith and doctrines seem the most biblically accurate … except for one thing… SPIRITUAL GIFTS! I cannot deny the beautiful experiences of speaking in tongues and being filled with the Holy Spirit. Thank you, Pastor Brown, for this video.
Exactly!
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God bless you Dr Brown,for such a precious teaching which greatly enriched me.
I refuse to believe that tongues that I speak when praying to the Lord is gibberish, I know that I know that I know I am speaking to our Father. Call me crazy if you want to.. I run out of things to pray, especially when I am living in compromise.. I sound like a broken record, asking for “relational forgiveness” over and over; as well as sometimes I tell people that I will pray for them and I forget to.. but I guarantee the Spirit didn’t forget when I pray a short prayer in tongues !! I will use tongues until the day I go and be with the Lord. Thank you for this message Dr brown
Amen and amen. The Lord bless you as you worship Him.
@@justinnicholson7774 African clicking languages sounds like gibberish or something made up, but they are still languages. It’s the same with tongues.
Languages in their simplest forms are sounds put together to communicate or convey a message.
I love this topic, and the handling of it.
It's interesting that the position of so many of the critics boils down to "If it ain't coming out of my chimney, it ain't smoke." They judge the validity of the gift based on their experience (or lack thereof) rather than judge it by the promise and proclamation of Scripture. What could we receive from the good hand of God if we simply believed that He meant what He said?
I have studied this topic for years and find no mention of it in the Bible. Don’t paint everyone with the same brush.
Have you ever looked into where this first came from? Why is the current method of tongues more modern and why does a lot of it imitate Hindu rituals?
@@robineggblue-bp3rq "so many" does not mean "everyone." Furthermore, "no mention of it in the Bible"? Are Acts 2, Acts 10, Acts 19, and 1 Cor. 12-14 in your Bible?
@@DryvBy "Where this first came from" is the Word of God. Satan always counterfeits what is genuine, so looking at Hindu rituals does not undermine what is authentic.
This is a very confusing topic for many in the body. Thank you for taking the time to unpack this, Dr. Brown. Blessings from California. 🕊
My experience is almost a carbon copy of yours. A teenage drug abuser who got miraculously saved and filled with the Holy Ghost!
KJV) - But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God.
I just wanted to tell you that there are two different ways to speak in tongues. One where it's a prayer language like you heard the 120 speaking and everyone thought they were drunk and they were speaking in many different languages. That other nations heard their language being spoken praising God. This is a prayer language where we speak To God. There is no need for interpretation then there's The gift of tongues and the interpretation of tongues . It is here that When a person gives a mess in tongues or needs to be someone there who has a gift of interpretation to interpret it. I hope you listen to Michael Brown explanation here
1 Corinthians 14:2 For one who speaks in a tongue speaks NOT TO MEN BUT TO GOD; for NO ONE UNDERSTANDS HIM, but he utters mysteries in the Spirit.
@@dblportion.yes, that’s one kind of tongue. But there are other kinds of tongues where the Holy Spirit does speak to men through us. That’s why it’s called tongueS, plural. Multiple kinds of tongues.
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1 Corinthians 14:2 (NLT) For if you have the ability to speak in tongues, you will be talking only to God, since people won’t be able to understand you. You will be speaking by the power of the Spirit, but it will all be mysterious.
Tongues is a multi fold gift. Paul generalizes the gift in 1 Corinthians. It’s seems that he is talking about tongues being used in more than one way. I believe this is one those subjects that he goes more in depth in person.
Only a tongue message from God to the church (public) requires interpretation:
1 Corinthians 14:27-28 (NLT) 27 No more than two or three should speak in tongues. They must speak one at a time, and someone must interpret what they say. 28 But if no one is present who can interpret, they must be silent in your church meeting and speak in tongues to God privately.
Tongues used for praise and prayer (private/personal) does not require interpretation, but we should pray for it. This “type” shouldn’t be spoken out loud to disrupt the service or cause confusion:
1 Corinthians 14:4 (NLT) A person who speaks in tongues is strengthened personally, but one who speaks a word of prophecy strengthens the entire church.
1 Corinthians 14:13-15 (NLT) 13 So anyone who speaks in tongues should pray also for the ability to interpret what has been said. 14 For if I pray in tongues, my spirit is praying, but I don’t understand what I am saying. 15 Well then, what shall I do? I will pray in the spirit, and I will also pray in words I understand. I will sing in the spirit, and I will also sing in words I understand.
Your experience is almost exactly as mine. I also tried to understand the cessation point of view. Started reading “Strange Fire” book a few years ago. I couldn’t finish it. It was so contradictory to what I knew. Tried to stop speaking in tongues. Could not. I love my cessationist brothers and sisters. But cannot give up believing in and using the gift God has given me.
Speaking in tongues should be a sign to the unbelievers. Also, any Spirit given tongue should be a real language.
it's not a gift if anybody can do it.
I have a problem when some people say all should pray in tongues, when Paul clearly says that not all will pray in tongues, and that we all have different gifts. In some circles those who do not speak tongues are made to feel inferior or not spiritual. I do believe in the gift, but I believe alot of what I have seen is fake.
I think one thing is speaking in tongues privately ,which is for everyone, and another is the gift of tongues which refers to a public speaking with interpretation - not everyone will do that. I think that is what Paul refered to.
Thank you for this, I’m at a point in my life where I am deciding if I want to continue with the gifts or not. Two Churches with different beliefs and I am excited to see where God wills me. Thanks for refreshing my memory
Yes tongues are the other Sword.
The Word is the SPIRIT that we fight with.
The other Sword is praying in tongues for self edifying.
Mark16:15-18
Paul’s sarcasm has been taken as serious and this is widely concerning to me lol
A Christian using LOL is concerning to me LOL
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There is zero evidence that Paul was speaking in sarcasm
Amen everyone in my congregation speaks in tongues. Apostolic to the bone. If you ever come to Calgary Alberta Canada join us Calgary Showers of Blessings Apostolic Church.
My biggest problem is how Christians just suddenly turn this on (tongues). It's confusing me to a point where I'm about to leave my church. Please remember me in prayer.
I understand. They don't know what they're doing. Try to talk with your pastor. See what he has to say. Changing churches is not wrong. I can see you're seeking God. He will guide you
@@marlenemartin4945 Thank you 🙏🏻
Has anyone actually ever interpreted your tongue? Which language is your tongue?
It's a personal conversation between his spirit man and God (1 cor 14:2)
Dr Brown please pray for mim to speak in tongues! I have been asking God to speak in tongues in a a while but I have not received yet!
I started praying in tongues yesterday, after arguing against it for a long time. After doing it again a few times today, it's like my mouth wants to speak in tongues. It feels like before you want to yawn.
Thank you so much for going over this. I struggle with tongues since it is so irrational to me. step 1) say some syllables no one including you understand step 2) ask yourself was that random syllables or some bible spiritual language? step 3) have a control group and an experimental group... lol except absolutely everything for an indeterminate period of time into the future is the possible subject matter... step 4) asking myself Why in the world is this in the Bible?? step 5) watching your video
sometimes I have thought about listening to tongues and then writing down what I think it is saying in the spirit. Then asking people at church what did they say and seeing if the interpretation is similar. Is this testing God, or trying to improve my spiritual accuracy???
I have never 'spoken in tongues,' and I've had powerful experiences with the Lord in prayer. However, I believe it (tongues) can happen if the Lord wills it to happen for other people. To me, it doesn't matter what comes forth in the flesh, so much as what's in the Spirit, in your mind, that matters, whether in *total silence* or spoken in tongues. I'd not think either is superior or inferior, only different, and to be used for different people at different times for different reasons. 🙂
Another interesting consideration is Romans 8:26. Paul writes that the Holy Spirit intercedes for us in groanings that cannot be expressed in words, which could be happening when you speak in tongues?
I speak in tongues , you can pick up the words , its not an lalababalala
We are taught to pursue spiritual gifts
@@cindywilson6779 Pursue God for knowing God, not pursue the 'gift'. Once our minds are in the right place in seeking Jesus in Spirit and in Truth, then He will see fit to know that He can add gifts if necessary.
Prayer in tongues, gifts are different
Dr. Brown, wouldn't video with sound, of the missionary communication with the isolated tribes be, in itself, the basis of a wonderful testimony for faith generating motivation and confirmation of God's use of miracles in a "normal" or common means of sharing the Gospel?
Can you ask your missionary friends to record the outreaches?
Do they already have some of those events already recorded, since "the happen at least 3 times a month"?
So cool you ate at Gino’s!
Currently reading Charles Sullivan and Philip Blosser's work on this subject that is very interesting and informative. There are a lot of views and perspectives on tongues that are truly unbiblical. Also, reading R A Torrey's input on baptism of the Spirit.
I'm amazed at these brilliant Bible scholars that have all the gifts of the Spirit but are unable to identify wolves like Kenneth Copeland (and many others). Stevie Wonder is able to see these countless T.V. crooks and scammers for what they really are with no gifting of the Holy Spirit......
I pray that these teachers with all their influence receive the gift of a back bone......
Kenneth Copeland is not a wolf.
If he were a wolf he would not have donated millions to help the victims of hurricane Katrina.
Based on what you said earlier, about how if you had perfect Greek on an island, can you tell me what type of “if” statement is being used in 1 Cor 13? Therefore, can you honestly say how someone with perfect Koine Greek and taught by the Holy Spirit would understand it?
1 Corinthians 14 says you should have 2-3 people interpret your tongues. If you reject the apostle paul then you reject wisdom and favor your pride more than the Lord
Dr. Brown with all due respect. I feel it’s important to correct your understanding of Acts 10. Verse 45 says that those of the circumcision were astonished! (These had come with Peter.) Since Cornelius is a Roman, it’s not unreasonable to think that there was people of multiple languages in their company. And as this was the sign to the Jews that the spirit had been poured out on the Gentiles. Which fulfilled the vision Peter had at the beginning of the chapter. This is why Paul in 1 Corinthians 14:22 says tongues are for a sign not for those that believe, but for those who believe not. (The Jews that didn’t believe Gods spirit could be poured out on Gentiles).
Not to be abrasive but the scripture really couldn’t be more clear that the tounges were known languages. 1 Corinthians 14 is clearly a rebuke because they were obviously doing something that probably resembled what goes on today in the charismatic movement.
“And even things without life giving sound, whether pipe or harp, except they give a distinction in the sounds, how shall it be known what is piped or harped? For if the trumpet give an uncertain sound, who shall prepare himself to the battle? So likewise ye, except ye utter by the tongue words easy to be understood, how shall it be known what is spoken? for ye shall speak into the air. There are, it may be, so many kinds of voices in the world, and none of them is without signification.”
1 Corinthians 14:7-10
It doesn’t take much discernment to see that Paul’s telling them that anything with a voice makes sense to someone.
“If the trumpet gives an uncertain sound how can I prepare for battle”
For any scripture that you can point to, to Further your argument can easily be explained as known languages.
I tell you all this out of love. I respect all of Gods creation. I’m not a cessationist. I believe God can do what he wants.
But what’s interesting is, I know 100’s of people who speak in tongues. But I’ve never met one person with the Gift of healing. It seems to me that if God was gonna pour out one particular gift on his people. The gift of healing, or prophecy, or wisdom would be much more beneficial to the advancement of the kingdom.
“But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.”
Matthew 6:7
Notice how the Lord says the heathen pray that way.
If you read the beginning of 1 Corinthians 12, concerning spiritual gifts that gentiles are easily lead away by dumb idols.
I do not want to be argumentative but I feel it’s very important to right divide the Word of truth.
I hate we can tell like the tone, or sarcasm Paul wrote or spoke in, seems to me more sarcastically facetious & true
speaking or writing, seems He is being sarcastic yet TRUTH , (yet in the church I would rather speak five words with my understanding, that I may teach others also, than ten thousand words in a tongue
You had me up until, "birthing" things in the Spirit. The videos I have seen of people doing this are nothing short of terrifying and definitely not exhibiting the spiritual gift of self-control. If, as you say, the Word is supreme...can you show me one place where it clearly says in Scripture that somebody was birthing something in the Spirit, and that it was as violent and boisterous as a natural birth can be apart from anesthesia? As far as I can tell, you are taking metaphoric phrases from Paul and making them into a theology. I am most certainly a cessationist when it comes to the office of apostle, but I am open to the real gift of tongues, which not every Christian will have even if they ask. That was not mentioned in this video and I think it's an important biblical point.
Those present on the Day of Pentecost "heard" the Gospel preached in 16 different known languages.
Act 2:8 And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?
Act 2:9 Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia,
Act 2:10 Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes,
Act 2:11 Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God.
Act 2:12 And they were all amazed, and were in doubt, saying one to another, What meaneth this?
In the Greek, the phrase “in their native language” modifies the verb “speaking” in verse 6, not the verb “hearing.” There was no “miracle of hearing” at Pentecost.
@@kavikv.d.hexenholtz3474 Based on what the Apostle Paul said below, "hearing" is a part of the salvation process. A person must "hear" the Gospel and "believe" the Gospel, and then be "sealed" with the Holy Spirit.
Eph 1:12 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.
Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
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What I meant by the comment, and perhaps I misunderstood your comment, is that the apostles weren't "speaking in tongues" and the crowd heard them speaking in their languages. The argument is moot anyway as with respect to Pentecost, the apostles weren't speaking any language they didn't already know, but that's a story for another day.
That’s because the gospel was preached in those languages. That is tongues. Other earthly languages. Simple as that.
@@SpotterVideo the scriptures never said they heard the gospel. To say so is adding to the scriptures. It was the sign/wonder that drew them. They heard in their own languages the praises (the (megaleios) great things /wonderful works of God.
Acts 2:11 (LSB) Cretans and Arabs--we hear them in our own tongues speaking of the mighty deeds of God.”
Umm tongues for the unbeliever is literally what happened at Pentecost. They heard them speaking in their natives tongues the wonderful works of God. It was a miracle of speaking and a miracle of understanding. Those unbelievers who understood were convinced of the power and presence of God. Then afterwards Peter spoke the gospel and 3,000 were saved. There are different varieties of tongues. Tongues as a sign to unbelievers which is a known language on the earth. Tongues used in body of Christ. This is a message from God to us and comes with an interpretation. Then there is the private tongue or prayer which is from our spirit to God. It’s not meant to be understood because it is a heavenly language which no one on the earth can understand. It’s to be used privately and not in a church setting. The issue is that there’s no way to tell the difference between them unless there is an interpretation. If there’s no interpretation then it wasn’t the gift of tongues, it was the private tongue. Paul was giving them freedom to speak in tongues but also order in how to properly communicate in a church setting. Speak out in faith but be quiet if there is no interpretation.
There is no private prayer tongue. If you really study all of I Cor 14 you will see that Paul wants people to pray with the understanding, or pray understanding themselves. They CANNOT edify themselves unless they understand themselves.
@@robineggblue-bp3rq Before I even respond to you. Have you ever spoken in tongues? Do you regularly speak in tongues?
@@robineggblue-bp3rq exactly!
I am with you, Dr. Brown-EXCEPT for your view about speaking gibberish tongues. Sorry. 😞
So are you with the Bible or opinion?
@@concernedcitizen7648 💯 Bible!
You are in danger to call a gift from God to call it gibberish!
@@cindywilson6779What if it is gibberish?
@@cindywilson6779 Danger of what? Ok then, how about unintelligible? Same meaning. 🤦🏼♀️
“There are different kinds of gifts, but the same Spirit distributes them. Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good.”
”DO all have the same Gifts ?
Are all the same body part members? To each one “HE” gives as HE wants, (do all have the same gifts,are all the same members of the body? Does the hands do the same as the feet, does the mouth do the same as the ears ? Different “BODY members do different things yet all useful , directed by THE HEAD, do all speak in tongues? Do all stand on a stage? Do all have podcasts? Are all plumbers? LORD GOD Holy Spirit use us all & may we do it according to YOUR WORD
Makes sense. To me
Could you do a segment on how to speak in tongues? I see it in Scripture but there are contradictions in how to do it within the charismatic community. Some have told me you just “do it” and others say it is an experience that happens to you that is out of your control. Thanks.
I've never spoken in tongues myself but I'd say just don't even worry about it. If the Lord wants you to speak in tongues, He will lead you. I've had experiences where I know 100% it was the Lord, but no speaking in tongues. It's not necessary for the Lord to get His point across. Again, don't worry about it. 🙂 I think what everyone should think about is how they can take more time out to *be still and know that He is God.* Psalm 46:10 🙂
There is no method. It's a gift given by the Holy Spirit. Pray for the baptism of the Holy Spirit.
Paul said in 1 Cor. 14 that "...I WILL pray in the Spirit, I WILL pray with the understanding..." Just like you can pray in your understanding at will, once you have been baptized in the Holy Spirit and received that gift of tongues, then you can pray it any time you want, just like when you pray in English (or your native language) any time you want. Paul also said in 1 Cor. 14, "If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret. But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God." If tongues were out of your control you would not be able to follow Paul's instructions here. So again, once you are baptized in the Holy Spirit and have the ability to speak in tongues, you can yield to them any time you want. You have full control of it. Remember Dr Brown saying he prayed 5 mins, then 10 minutes, and got to where he prayed an hour a day. That was under his control. You can pray as much or as little as you want.
I have never really struggled with speaking in tongues (however I struggle with how irrational it seems). There are people in church who have like two syllables let's say "do" and "bee" and they like do SOS with just these two syllables... is this tongues.... ?? I usually stay away from saying something is not of the Spirit unless I have direct Biblical evidence to the contrary. I guess my advice is to have fun with it. While driving alone just start making up gibberish and get used to the patterns it makes. If you think to yourself, "I have never used a 'w' sound... then add a w sound... if you ?sense? it was wrong somehow then don't use it... For instance we are told to read, know, and understand the Bible. The Holy Spirit strings bible verses together in our minds and hearts into guidance... instead of bible verses you're stringing together syllables. At first just make paths of gibberish like someone who doesn't know how to play piano etc... do certain syllables give you different feedback like music? And then before too long you aren't even thinking about the patterns most of the time. You are focused more on the song than the notes. You're moving through the forest and no longer categorizing trees.
This would be great! I’m pretty sure I know what Dr. Brown would say but I’d love to hear the way he says it because he is very good at making thinks simple to understand.
This wasn't a very good explanation it was more about his personal experience & feelings rather than scriptural descriptions his hypothetical scenario of speaking tongues in a foreign language amongst a group that all spoke the same language would serve no purpose because no one in that group would be able to understand anyway highlights what Paul said if there no one to interpret let him be silent also would speaking in gibberish be any better as if those present can differentiate between a foreign language or gibberish.him calling it a moot point is itself a moot point
1 Corinthians 14:13 Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret. 14:14 For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful. 14:15 What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also.
This passage of Scripture has been my go to between gift of tongues and the prayer language.
This chapter is very important to understanding the topic. Many of the verses can be better understood by preceding verses or following verses. Verse 15 is VERY important. Paul wants people to pray in a language they understand.
Does everyone speak in tongues? If it’s a “Gift is it given to all?…… does every believer have all the gifts ? We believe it’s for today but also have other questions, like do most churches even do it as the BIBLE say so in the congregations?
@@RJ-vq1iv I go to a church that believes that the baptism of the Holy Ghost comes with the evidence of speaking in tongues, but in my reading of Scripture I've not found it written that way.
"1 Corinthians 12:29 Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles? 12:30 Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?"
I believe the scripture says the baptism of the Holy Ghost/Spirit comes when a person is born again.
"Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his."
The true evidence of the baptism of the Holy Ghost is told in , "1 Corinthians 12:31 But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way." And chapter 13 tells us the excellent way. Charity ( LOVE)
"Matthew 5:43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;"
This love can only come through the baptism of the Holy Ghost. And that is the True Evidence.
According to 1 Corinthians 12:4-11 different gifts are given to different believers -- one might be given the gift of preaching or teaching, another prophecies, another healings, and others tongues, etc.
Were you baptized according to Acts 2:38? Just like Peter preached to his fellow Jews on the day of Pentecost? Just asking cause you know the words father, son, and holy ghost aren't names, but titles.
Dr. Michael Brown says at 11:35 that "In my mind, I can be talking to God about one thing, and while speaking in tongues, it was coming from a different part of my being." I don't see how this squares with 1 Corinthians 14:15 which says "What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also; I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also." In the context, which I recommend you look at, Paul is not advocating praying with your mind while your mouth makes unintelligible gibberish. I know this, because Paul concludes by saying "yet in the church I would rather speak five words with my understanding, that I may teach others also, than ten thousand words in a tongue." So all the modern-gibberish-tongues in the world (which is not the biblical gift of tongues) is not worth 5 words of actual words spoken with understanding.
Yea, thats Pauls entire point. Brown doesnt disagree, its his entire point. Thats why Paul says tongues only edifies the inidividual and prophecy is better because it edifies people around you. Paul would rather speak 5 telligable words people can understand while in PUBLIC, than speaking his angel language tongue that he does in private more than any of them. Pauls entire rebuke was that they were doing it too much in public, and that for the public, they need to focus on things that edify the public, not just the individual. So how is Paul saying its wrong? Hes saying its good. But only for the edifying of the individual. Do you see Brown up here speaking in tongues? No. Because Brown is obeying Pauls counsel. If he werent, then Brown would be making videos speaking unknown tongue. Paul says he will do both, but he doesnt say he'll do both in the church! Youre adding whats not there! I suggest the context of scripture, not your beliefs.
‘Tongues’ (read, *‘languages’* ) - the divine gift, is the God/Holy Spirit given ability to effortlessly learn to speak and be understood through real-language barriers. It is not xenoglossy (as many people incorrectly assume), nor is it the self-created non-cognitive non-language utterance of what certain Christian denominations are producing today (modern tongues-speech).
The “tongues” Pentecostal and Charismatic Christians are producing today is an entirely self-created phenomenon. It is non-cognitive non-language utterance; random free vocalization based upon a subset of the existing underlying sounds (called phonemes) of the speaker’s native language, and any other language(s) the speaker may be familiar with or have had contact with.
It is, in part, typically characterized by repetitive syllables, plays on sound patterns, alliteration, assonance, and over-simplification of syllable structure. The "nail in the coffin", so-to-speak, is that _any and all_ phonological rules (rules governing how sounds are put together in a given language - what is allowed and what is disallowed) governing a speaker's native language, will _also_ govern their tongues-speech. That fact alone negates anything that can be construed as 'divine' in nature and cements that fact that it is a self-created phenomenon. Further, this subset of phonemes mentioned above typically contains only those sounds which are easiest to produce physiologically.
Occasionally some speakers will use two or more subsets of phonemes to generate glossolalia, producing what, to them, sounds like two (or more) distinct “tongues languages”, thus claiming to be able to speak in “divers tongues”.
There is absolutely _nothing_ that “tongues-speakers” are producing that cannot be explained in relatively simple linguistic terms.
Conversely, when it comes to something spoken, there are absolutely _no_ Biblical references to “tongues” that do not refer to, and cannot be explained in light of, real rational language(s), though it may not be the explanation you want to hear, and it may be one which is radically different from what you believe, or were taught. _Nowhere_ in the Bible is modern tongues-speech advocated or evidenced.
“Praying in the Spirit” does _not_ refer to the words one is saying. Rather, it refers to how one is praying. In the three places it is used (Corinthians, Ephesians, and Jude), there is absolutely zero reference to 'languages' in connection with this phrase. “Praying in the Spirit” should be understood as praying in the power of the Spirit, by the leading of the Spirit, and according to His will.
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Amen. It is amazing how Satan has infiltrated this church with falsehoods and false gifts that bring shame and reproach on the name of Christ. People are so desperate for supernatural gifts, they are willing to accept a counterfeit.
Thy will be done
I do not attend a charismatic church so this is second hand info so take that as you will. I have a friend who is charismatic and i was told about a time where a woman starts speaking in tongues and there is a guy that stood up and commanded her in Jesus name to speak in english and she was cursing God. So if you do believe speaking in tongues still happens then that is one good reason why you need an interpreter because you have snakes out there.
Tongues never made a difference in building God's Kingdom.
Yeah, Pentecost was a sham, huh?
The only tongues I know of is gibberish. I can know. I was in pentecostal churches for decades. I' m glad I am out of that now.
I’ve head many speak in tongues, but never no interpreter or interpretation, in the BIBLE there is instructions
Do’s/dont’s even says if it’s not done like this , just shut up, don’t do it, ain’t never heard any preacher/ pastors- talk about that but it’s in THE WORD
It doesn’t say “shut up” as not to say they shouldn’t speak at all it says leave them alone to pray by themselves as its between them and God.
But if there is no interpreter, let him keep silent in church, and LET HIM speak to himself and to God.
1 Corinthians 14:28
It also says it's unfruitful if it's not interpreted.
1 Corinthians 14:13 Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret. 14:14 For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful. 14:15 What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also.
If there is no interpreter, the speaker should keep quiet in the church and speak to himself and to God,( be silent in the church-keep silent-remain silent-) there are certain ways Paul says in the BIBLE does & dont. Never heard anyone talk preach on it but GOD has something to say about it, rather listen to HIM than my own thinking/ thoughts or any other man/ person
Michael Brown you have damaged my feelings ,seeing you Defending this deceiving practice is so sad😢😢
I've begun to realize that great men of God, who have done wonderful works like Dr. Michael Brown, also have devastating errors 2 Corinthains 12:7 "And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure." If Dr. Brown did not have such errors, he would be exalted too highly, it seems.
You are not speaking in tongues. Unless multiple nationalities who speak different languages can understand what you say at the same time. Yes.....NOOOOOO!
An anecdotal observation in 47 years as a believer (saved and then discipled in a charismatic tradition): almost without exception I have observed that those who practice the charismatic gifts, particularly tongues, but prophecy as well, are people who have had a history of some kind of substance abuse. I think a clear and plain reading and interpretation of Scripture makes it clear that of course those gifts have ceased. Following the patterns of the Old and New Testament one cannot help but come to the conclusion that the need for and the use of the "sign gifts" is no longer necessary.
Nrver it has said that these gifts have been ceased in past tense, reread
@@partlysimpson5154 "reread" what?
Why is speaking in tongues always associated with The Pentecostal church? I felt kind of down when Dr. Brown revealed that he grew up in a Pentecostal church. Doesn’t seem too surprising as he was most likely indoctrinated and he listened to these “tongue speakers” often. You don’t hear of this is other denominations very often like you do in the Pentecostal denomination.
From what I understand there wasn’t much of this since the time of Christ, and then in the early 1900’s there was “The Charismatic” movement including 2 co-founding preachers Charles Parham and William Seymour, and they made the claim that “Baptism in the Holy Spirit” took on a newly defined meaning which became “Speaking in tongues”. Seemed like it really took off from there and diverts from scripture.
Charles Parham then opened The Bethel Bible college and then REALLY started to push this stuff.
Speaking in tongues was a special gift from God so that the Word could be spread to people in multiple languages. I have no doubt.
I have a couple friends that go to a church in a near by city, and they preach that everyone can learn how to do this to “increase your relationship with God and increase the answers to your prayers.”
God is omnipresent and omnipotent. He knows what you’re going to ask for and knows what you are going to say, tomorrow and 50 years from now. Why do you need a special language to communicate with Him?
Everything about this makes my stomach turn. Feels like a bad warning. Maybe the odd person might have had this gift bestowed on them by God, but all in all, I think most people are making it up or their minds are just twisted and they are convincing themselves that they can do this.
Either way it goes away from scripture, and living 2000 years post Christ, and the fact that pretty much every Bible has been translated to every language that is in existence today, why would God need to grant this gift of Tongues which means “Languages” by the way, in the plural.
Doesn’t seem to be a need for it anymore.
The gift of tongues and prophecy never left the church. The early church fathers wrote about it. St. Augustine spoke in tongues. Other saints in history were known to speak in tongues and prophesy. There are accounts during the reformation and the great awakenings. William Booth, the founder of the Salvation Army spoke in tongues. There are accounts from the Cane Ridge and Welsh revivals.
Why the explosion in the 1900s? I reason, I believe people were desiring more of God. In the early 1900s people weren’t seeking gift. They were seeking for encounters with the gift-giver.
i have no evidence for my theory i dont know if it exists either. but when referencing speaking in tongues in 1 Corinthians 14 so much of what paul talks about could be taken as speaking philosophically or just deep spiritual truths that edify the person but if they can't fully explain it to someone. When Jesus spoke a lot of times people couldn't understand anything he said it would sound like gibberish/hard sayings they dont understand and therefore he would then have to explain even further what it meant. we could be speaking the same language but be speaking different tongues. is reciting the Our Father not heavenly speech? you can pray the Our Father and your spirit is lifted up but your mind may not understand what you are saying. again i have no evidence for this but its just a thought.
It is so sad to see my favourite Messianic scholars and Trinitarian Hero ,being Deceived by spirit of the ages and following false Practice that have never been practiced by the very followers of the apostles and only developed lately 100 years ago😢😢😢
There are scientific benefits to speaking in tongues: reduction in stress, immunity boosts, and emotional stability. How could that not be God?
Forms of ecstatic speech, similar to what some might call "gibberish babbling," have been found in various pagan religions throughout history, such as the frenzied rituals of the Dionysian rites in ancient Greece, shamanistic practices, and tribal ceremonies in Africa, where individuals entered trance-like states and produced unintelligible sounds. This demonic act has made its way into the Christian church sadly, and is not from God. The scripture is clear that we ought to pray with our understanding, and not to make utterances that have no meaning, 1 Corinthians 14:15 "I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also; I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also." In the context, which I recommend you look at, Paul is not advocating praying with your mind while your mouth makes unintelligible gibberish. Paul concludes by saying "yet in the church I would rather speak five words with my understanding, that I may teach others also, than ten thousand words in a tongue."
Not the way I see those scriptures. Thanks for calling me and others who love the Lord, demonic. You know that Peter once enter into a trace, right? I guess he was demonic. I guess the prophets in the Bible were fake because pagan had their own and psychics too. By your logic that is the case. Also your comment has nothing to do with what I posted.
John 10:10 (NLT) The thief’s purpose is to steal and kill and destroy. My purpose is to give them a rich and satisfying life.
@@YehudaHalevi247 I said the practice of speaking in pagan babel gibberish is demonic, I did not call you or anyone demonic directly, though if you are currently engaged in demonic activity on a regular basis, one certainly should question why. I have been around enough so-called "tongue speakers", I have heard their nonsense, and with discernment I can confidently say, that is not from God, and brings shame and reproach on the name of Christ, who is not the author of confusion.
@@VFXShawn grace and peace
You don't speak in tongues.
Speak to me in Chinese if you can. Babbling is from you know who! Anyone can babble special Babylon the great.
Or if you could could speak in tongues that No Man understands as in Corinthians 14:2 that would be great also
Tongues today is just gibberish. Mysteries. Paul was not very happy about that. Gibberish equals babbling. Babbling equals the practices of Babel where God confounded the languages.. Mystery Babylon right now! Not good.
@@joopfennis8272 1 Corinthians 14:39 says, "Therefore, brethren, covet to prophesy and forbid not to speak in tongues".
1 Corinthians 14:2 in the Bible says, "For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for NO MAN understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries"
Speaking mysteries to God? And to whom will that benefit? Who will be edified? Not the church! And was Paul happy with speaking mysteries?
Ik dacht het niet. Ik kan hier wel kenbaar maken dat ik gered ben door Jezus Christus, maar wie kan hier 'amen' op zeggen? This is Dutch most of you need interpretation here. So, I was only writing to God. Mysteries for most of you. Are you happy now?
@@joopfennis8272 it’s ok, just obey the plain language of the Bible, and desire to prophesy, and don’t forbid speaking in tongues, be very careful beautiful believer what you call of the devil, you’re treading the line of the unforgivable sin, it says NO MAN can understand it, you may scoff and mock it as “gibberish” but our thoughts are not God’s thoughts and His ways are higher than ours, don’t think you can box God into your errant unbiblical theology