Beyond ATC *RELEASED* | Full Setup & Tutorial Video - Realistc ATC for MSFS 2020
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 มิ.ย. 2024
- Beyond ATC, the Air Traffic Control program for MSFS 2020 is finally available. After months of anticipation, this progam has excited many of you with its incredible and realistic voice samples, as well as details ATC and voice recognition. In this video, we'll take you through the program step by step so you can understand and get the very best out of BATC!
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This is a must buy for me. I have a stutter and I am nervous to give vatsim a try so this looks like a great alternative and might build my confidence to eventually try vatsim
Good luck bro! you can do it. :D
Don't be nervous about Vatsim, it's a very friendly community! You can start at smaller airports with less traffic initially just to get a feel for it :)
my attention span is that of a hamster when it comes to readbacks during a crowded airspace. AI ATC is godsent for practicing.
You can try text only mode or voice receive mode (where ATC talk to you but you use text)
Do not be nervous. I literally had a vatsim CONTROLLER with a stutter and he was still great. These controllers are understanding
Marketing team didn't mess around 👏 Simple and effective, just quietly released leaving the product to do all the speaking. 👏
Yea, and it is not in a state when it would really work;)
Two days ago "Oh cool, I guess they're releasing soon, maybe next month"
today, "HOLY CR_P"
Well, in their defense, they been announcing for a long time with lots of videos.
Those cheeky devils didn't even announce the launch on Discord. Found out it's now available through you :))
Yes, noticed this too. Why would they not announce it?
@@jay-rus4437So the servers are not overloaded most likely
Same here 😂
@@jay-rus4437they announced it that day, it was just buried amongst the traffic of people who saw it
The fact they have your voice in here that sounds LIKE YOU is such a flex lol
It's freakishly impressive - because I didn't do anything to assist them. They simply took some voice samples from my videos
@@Easyjetsimpilot Who knows we might be able to add custom sound packs if they could simply render this from mere videos.
@@Easyjetsimpilot That's cool and very creepy at the same time that such things are nowadays so easily possible :D
@@Easyjetsimpilotreally? I thought they’d get you guys to record a load of words to train it on.
I just loaded it up yesterday, I can say I spent more time trying to speak first time really as I don’t do online flying haha
Really good stuff for $30 with the Basic model hope they don’t change
Ok, I'm sold. The basic voices are way better than I expected. I don't enjoy flying online because of my lack of training. This will be a good tool to get more comfortable with it.
Just had my first flight
The good:-
Taxi instructions were fine,
Gave reasonable climb altitudes
Handed over to different sector controller appropriately (no more ATC pinball yipee)
I asked for descent close to my calculuted TOD and it cleared me down via appropriate VNAV altitude constraints
Vectoring worked fine and brought me in at the right altitude with a nice long final approach.
The Bad/Could do better-
The first and biggest, while the sample basic controller voices you can try in the settings are fine and understandable, the (same) controller voice I had on departure, arrival and ATIS was mostly unintelligible. Data (bearings, altitudes) could be understood but things like turn left and right even a radio check was terrible. Ended up turning on auto response and reacting to the read backs. Could really do with an option to select a single basic controller voice if you wished.
Take-off clearance was fine except there was no intial climb altitude given so I just flew the SID constraints until I was given higher.
(More a tip) While you can set BATC to autotune the radios, unlike the default ATC it doesn't set your transponder.
I wanted to fly an RNAV LPV approach but there doesn't seem to be a way to let BATC know that and I was instead vectored to the ILS approach.
Final point, which may be 3rd party scenary related, but I was given a gate that seemed not to exist.
To be clear this isn't a moan and I'm sure many of these issues are already been worked on, but I just wanted to share my initial observations.
If there's a published top altitude on a SID, no initial climb will be given, as you are expected to "Climb via SID" until cleared to your desired cruising altitude, or at least that's how it works on VATSIM and IRL
A very exciting addition to an already amazing simulator. Thanks Gavin for another sublime tutorial 🥳👍
Just finished my first flight from KDCA to KBOS in my A320. Departure was flawless. En route was perfect, even when my AP flaked out and got off course, the BATC controller alerted me. Only problem was that I never received a hand-off to approach or tower and had to flew the ILS and landing alone. I don’t think I did anything wrong, but perhaps I missed a step somewhere.
This is an absolute game-changer for me. I just joined VATSIM, but I think this is a great alternative. I am loving it. Had my headset ready to go. I didn’t know to launch the app using admin, so Discord helped on that. I can’t believe how this changed the immersion level. I was stuttering like a fool as my brain struggled to adapt and shift into “interactive voice mode”.
This really opens up incredible opportunities to learn and evolve as a virtual pilot. BATC is a solid win!
same thing happened to me en route from LOWW to LSGG. I had to reload and select descent.
Finally a software with proper European Portuguese accents for English. Most software thinks Brazilian Portuguese is the default accent in Portugal (it is not). I'm pretty excited about this product, the Premium voices are insanely good! (And much closer to proper European Portuguese when pronouncing English, as the majority of Portuguese people and all ATC controllers in Lisbon, do know how to properly pronounce English) ;) Cheers from Portugal
The Premium version costs around 5€ per word I think
@@markfosseth8047 Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think €5 would get you far more than one word: Buying a top up of 250,000 characters costs $9.99. So, if a word has, for example, 10 characters (e.g. 'transition'), it would cost just less than 0.04 of a cent. Therefore, 25 9-character words, each with a space after them (totaling 10 characters per word) would cost less than 1 cent, and $5 would give you around 25,000 such words. €5 would get you slightly more at the current exchange rate.
@@markfosseth8047 10 USD gives you 250000 characters. So, $1 gives 25000 characters, which equals 2500 9-character words each with a space after them (totaling 10 characters per word). Therefore, $5 would give you 12500 such words, and €5 would give slightly more on the current exchange rate.
@@markfosseth8047 10 US dollars gives you 250000 characters. So, 1 dollar gives 25000 characters, which equals 2500 9-character words each with a space after them (totaling 10 characters per word). Therefore, 5 dollars would give you 12500 such words, and 5 Euros would give slightly more on the current exchange rate.
@@markfosseth8047 5€ would get you about 12500 9-character words each with a space after them (totaling 10 characters per word).
Been waiting for this day! So excited. Thanks for all the info with setup and the different settings!
On my way to purchase now. Look forward to more improvements as and when they are ready. I believe that Beyond ATC are one of the few developers that are up front and honest about their product so I have no hesitation in buying as I know that they will deliver the full package in due course.
I just bought it and did a first flight..this is a game changer to every non vatsim atc software and as you can also use it besides Vatsim it fits perfectly into the coverage gaps. Awesome tool guys!
They are amazing developers. Honest, high quality product and quiet release. Amazing video aswell thanks
Hope you are ok with your demotion cause as of now on you will serve as FO on my flights😂
Thank you for a great showcase and tutorial 😊
As soon as I saw the video, I went to get this. I love flying at times when Vatsim ATC is still sleep. Can't wait to use it!!
I'm gonna wait a few weeks but I do plan on buying this thanks for your video!
Watching this while on my way to Lisbon airport for the journey back to LGW.
Will likely be buying this tomorrow!
I'm impressed so far, thanks for the run through.
Going to buy today. Awesome to FINALLY have some good ATC in the sim 🎉
Thanks Gavin - another great tutorial. Some in UK may experience similar problems to me in the purchase page not understanding the UK address and postcode syntax. I have contacted their admin but neither of 2 international debit cards were failed - a genuine first for any international service provider in the MSFS space! A real own goal for a product launch!
Pressing "V" to bring the minimap up in-game and clicking on the airport also gives you all information about that airport, including all the frequencies.
does the minimap work in VR?
@@Macbrowndog I wouldn't know. Never used VR.
I don't see why not though. It's the default miminap.
@@ChristianNelsonn thanks christian didn't know that.:-)
@@TheStevehow Glad to have helped.
When desperate, that's how I get weather for obscure airports that don't have METAR online.
Fantastic program and thank you for a such a great informational video.
Thank you so much! Now with BeyondATC, i'll feel confidence to fly with ATC.
Second flight of the day with BATC: I made a flight in the USA and the basic voices are great. no issues at all. I made my flight all with vectors and it was perfect!
Thank you this a great tutorial for using beyond atc.
Fantastic tutorial. Thank you!
Thanks for the tutorial. Great presentation.
Rarely have I purchased software so quickly! Thanks!
Tried it yet? 😊
@@kokoeteantigha389 I did! Just one flight, and it did a great job of speech recognition and guiding by my IFR plan. Really amazing
@@kokoeteantigha389 I did and it was fantastic! Great job of voice recognition and IFR guidance. Very impressed by it! (Sorry if this is a duplicate response, not sure if YT sent my first one)
Great tutorial... thank you!! Looking forward to using BATC 😄👍🏼
I picked it up this morning after finding out it released. I had a couple small issues with it, but I am enjoying beyond atc so far.
Thanks Gavin ! That’s pretty cool 😎 and very clever too 👍🙏🏻👊👨✈️✈️
really a good enhancement. I like it. Does what they announced for the early access. Looking forward to the development of the project.
So excited to test it tomorrow
Very impressive, look forward to use the program
Just finished my first two short hops with BATC. It’s VERY good. Way better than what I experienced during my SayIntentions trail, and much more enjoyable than Pilot2ATC. Very excited for more features to be added, but even in its current state well worth the money in my opinion.
Wow, for a rooky sim, it takes time to understand the lingo. Love to hear the language the airlines use. Practice makes perfect. Thank you for the opportunity to learn.
Great video. Thanks, very clear.
Thank you very much I live in CLAY county texas this will help A lot !!
Def gonna check this out! Looks really impressive from this vid. The only thing I can put my finger on so far is ATC’s use of the word “to”. Usually when I fly I would get cleared INBOM, cleared FL XXX or cleared 5000 ft without that little word to avoid misunderstandings:)
Next thing to try: I’m gonna try to shoot a series of instrument approaches (RNAV/VOR/ILS/LOCALIZER etc.) via the aerodrome’s VOR to see how well ATC handles “Ready with intentions” which often use during IFR training ;) Keep up the great work!
Hi Gavin, Thanks for set up presentation, I purchased the “basic” version today, I fly mostly GA A/C VFR SO INTERESTING SETTING UP MY FLIGHT AND aircraft on Sim Brief, I must say it’s very good and am pleased notice typical lower altitudes for VFR flights not available in request altitude change best lower value I could get was 5000 feet.Having said that it just seems to work.
I think with full traffic injection this could become a really good program.
Maybe they can work together with fstsl live traffic
Needs traffic injection distance and speed separation to have real competitive advantage and next step user experience with simulated ATC. Other competitive products also say working on traffic injection . Remains to be seen which one will have the best implementation . Also FS2024 will have much upgraded ATC. Remains to be seen. Bottom line better wait out until FS2024. Also any SIM ATC needs integration with FS2Crew and similar. Namely ATC integrated with Flying and Monitoring pilot flows and processes.
@DarkAngel-yu1ye how is Microsoft going to upgrade atc?
@@AleXoTroNthey got one of if not the main guy that made FSLTL to help with their version.
Specifications not released. A good guess with AI and own traffic injection or interface API to FSLTL or similar. The big challenge as said is vector traffic separation and speed control.
Great to see it !
Just done a flight from egkk to lgsa, thank you for being my co-pilot .. beyond atc works very well was quite cool
Love a flight to the Greek Isles.
@@Easyjetsimpilot ive been flying this route for years within sim since boxed fsx & personally as a passenger for 19yrs... I also had FS-ATC chatter running in the background the whole flight which helped with immersion.
thanks for the tutorial ! very helpfull!
Thank you for this. N will be downloading later and using with ivao/vatsim. Can’t wait
excellent video showcase 👌
Excited!
Great video, thanks :)
Thanks for this... Pretty neat stuff.
Hope this video can make my mind up whether to purchase or not. 👍🏻.
Being portuguese and familiar (obviously) with the portuguese english accent, -i found the basic voice's portuguese accent bad and hard to understand. But the premium voices... just wow. Accent on point.
Absolutely love it! I mean it had me at FL240 in the downwind but might have been my fault not sure haha
What a great tutorial Gavin many thanks will this work with GA aircraft and VFR flights do you know. Thanks again great presentation BR Charlie
Very impressive. I like how you can automatically respond or manually use the mike. Great for learning. However, (as we know) there are bugs and I have not yet completed a flight...
For those that have troubles setting up the right output sound device. You have to go to the Windows sound setting that lists all applications that currently connect to a sound driver. There you can click on BeyondATC and select each device for input / output. My guess was, that it had to do with the ingame settings of MSFS what turned out to be wrong for the case of beyondatc.
I got it anyway and really like it. Far easier to use and better than Pilot2ATC that I had tried previously. Thumbs up.
Good video as always. I bought it and been using it for 2 days. It s good but as it s an early release it does have bugs as we were warned before the purchase. One thing that I hope they soon find a solution to is recognizing purchased airport sceneries. Some are but not all. When it doesn t recognize the airport it just blocks. I must say that i m impressed by this software.
A brilliant review. I will buy Beyond ATC quicker than a rat up a drainpipe!! :-)
Did my first flight a few minutes ago. Short one from KDCA to KPIT in the 737-800. Lightyears ahead of dealing with MSFS's default ATC, which I've had shut off for months, which makes for lonely flying. Really easy to pick up, especially for a non-pilot like me. A few times I had to repeat myself because I'd get mush mouth, but that's on me. I had to let the FO handle comms a few times because multitasking ain't my strong suit :)
The basic voices are MORE than adequate for me - surprisingly so. So I won't need to spring for the premium voices... unless they convince my Senpai AirforceProud95 to lend his voice, in which case they can just HAVE my wallet...
I can't wait until it supports VFR under UK CAA rules.
Great video Gavin--well done yet again!!
KSFO--KLAX. Much appreciate the hard work from BATC
Still much to do
Frequencies selected had ATIS overlay
BATC refused ILS approach
Incorrect vectoring into 24R KLAX and gate not recognized
Lots of fun however--artificial voice tempo would help to speed up as well👍🏻
Ensure default ATIS voice from MSFS ATC is turned off.
Of course it's safe to run... famous last words! ;)
Thanks Gavin. Do you know if it support VR?
Let's GOOOOOOOOOOO!
Great demo! I use P2ATC currently. The only feature missing from BeyondATC is the P2ATC active map. Also does BeyondATC need the Simbrief plan entered into the aircrafts FMC or does BeyondATC read the flight plan from Simbrief alone? Also can BeyondATC use VFR? Thanks.
Finally we can abandon the inbuilt MSFS ATC. 👍
Happy Sunday !!, cant wait to try this out, need to use this for practise to build up confidence to try Vatsim. Thanks to the developers !!
I think once they get the vfr and remote/oceanic setup on this it might be worth more looking into. But that’ll be interesting on how oceanic is handled based on equipment and so forth.
Thank you for the tutorial. I’m so looking forward to using BATC. When I install it can you advise, do I need to install on the same drive as MSFS or can i install it on a separate drive on my PC ? Thanks.
Downloaded right away, we have really needed this! Do they plan on adding a bit of static noise to these voices? Sound is a bit too clean imho.
Excited for VFR in the future!
Doesn’t it support VFR flights? 🥺
bought it, it’s great the only problem I’ve had is when flying from Belfast to Cardiff I had a lady Spanish controller and I couldn’t understand a word. got around it by using auto respond and my co-pilot interpreted for me. Still think it’s brilliant though 😊
I did a few flights. My only issue is with the Default vs Premium voices. If you are in US you are 100% fine with the basic voices. However, in Brazil, it's really hard to understand the intruction. It's just broken, and that comes from a Brazilian that knows and is familiar with "Brazilian English". Even the premium voices in Brazil aren't great. I can't fathom that a Brazilian controller would have such bad English. It would be nice if those basic voices would improve with time, but I don't know exactly where they are getting them, if it's crowd source and it will learn with time.
Hi and thanks for all your excellent videos, with regards to beyond ATC do you have to cancel ATC voices etc in the actual FS simulator before running beyond ATC/?
It is advised you turn off MSFS ATC as to not get confused... . Or perhaps not as you might want to use those as background chatter... and just lower the volume.
I was looking forward to see this in action, so thanks very much for very detailed video. Unfortunately, this seems to be only for IFR flights, not for VFR, which I was hoping for and am flying. Would be great, if it could work for VFR and communicate live depending on situation as the build in atc is really basic. I have no doubt, that it will come eventually, maybe even build in in FS2024
FINALLY
Works well, now waiting for the Fly-by-wire A380X
Also, a decent Frankfurt and San Francisco Airports.
I am third! 🎉😊 I can't wait to finish work and download it ah ah ah
Hey There! Just A Question About Your Fenix A320. From The Thumbnails Of Your Live Streams (Great Shots By The Way) It Looks Like You Cant See The Cockpit. It May Just Be My Eyes Playing Up But It Gives A Really Nice Effect.
like the auto tune auto respond to be voice activated. like, "hey (copilot) can you tune the radio or can you respond to the radio, or can you take over comms, I have comms, etc.
Great way to fill in the dead air spaces of vatsim but I would suggest its better to be "all in or all out". As in if you're using beyond atc just disconnect form vatsim and vice versa
Great to have it now after the long wait but a little disappointed there is no option to open and close the window with button control.
Wow.... but need to know whats best to disable on my FSLTL to avoid conflict. I assume (for now) once AI traffic is working in BATC then it must be disabled in FSLTL ?
Also, I assume you turn off/disable the Microsoft/Asobo ATC in MSFS options????
once i get this, you will be my co-pilot lol
Thanks for a great video. I bought the basic version and have completed a couple of flights. Looks like a really great product. My only concern is if they are going to update the airport database to use the generic MSFS airports? I flew into KATL and got the message that ATC could not provide taxi and gate information due to scenery incompatibility. I am using the generic KATL, not a purchased product. Do you know if there is a solution for this? When I flew into KSTL, also generic, taxi guidance worked fine. Thanks for any help.
Good start! Thanks very good video, as always. I have bought the program, but I do not like free voice, some it is so bad, that they do not pass the English language test which is the minimum requirement. This must be improved.
The idea and easy UI is a good idea, I am a former RL Pilot and have no problem talking to ATC on Vatsim (wich i fly on ones a week). During other days I don't want the hassle of Vatsim ATC (waiting times before departure for example) and i would like to fly with BATC. So I enticipated this very much. Yesterday I did two testflights, first I was surprised (although that can be read on their website) that in VR there is no UI (I only fly in VR) so I flew the test in 2D, secondly I was disappointed that although in Simbrief I gave the departing and arrival runways for Amsterdam Schiphol airport BATC is choosing her own departure and arrival runways wich by the way are completely unlogical. I had to depart from runway 27 wich is never used for departure. So BATC is just choosing a Runway that Asobo ATC would also do (the one who is directed the best into the current wind. Also during cruise BATC told me to come back to them for descent, wich i couldn't do because in the UI there is no such commant....only a different FL could be chosen and doing so it never resulted in a VNAV descent. (now possibly could asked with voice for the descent but since my FS is in the living room I don't want to use voice). And then we have the problem of looking for help or asking questions to the team, there is no forum, only Discord, as a 62 year old, I don't understand the discord hype from nowadays....when you put your question in there, it is followd up by 500 other irrelevant questions of remarks from others on totally different topics. Totally untrackable....at least for the moment I will abandon BATC a little disappointed.
It looks good but I would like to know a few things: 1) are there any options for emergency situation? (as it was in Radar Contact) 2) how it works if you will activate simrate? 3) how is it working in cruise level ? I´m using FSHud but it´s always telling to me only "Radar Contact, maintain Flight Level" , is Beyond ATC able to tell me for example: climb, descend, turn heading because of traffic?
Thank you in advance for reply.
thx for the video...
but what I don't undertand (B. ATC is not very tranpatent since the beginning), in Basic, I don't have Controller and AI Voices according to the country or Airline? I need premium for this feature?
I always understood, premium gives you more different voices in better quality, but also in Basic I get the correct country voices for both.
another question, will this programm work in the feature without simbrief or even without any FPL for VFR flights? because, Simbrief does not create meaningful VFR plans , nor does it support the most GA Aircraft.
When I'm going VFR, I don't want to create a FPL anytime.
I'm happy with pilot2atc. Maybe if they get all of their features implemented with 2024 compatibility. Then I will consider.
I really looking forward to have an ATC who also controls the AI traffic. I use P2ATC for now. I used FSHud, but somehow I can’t get it to work.
I really miss Radar Contact from the P3D days. Very simple and very accurate ATC. Even today no one comes close. I have great expectations for BATC.
I use fs hud and it works fine, it even controls the real FSLTL traffic
People are sleeping on FSHud
Unfortunately, some of the local voices in Basic mode are really bad. I started flights from Dortmund, Warsaw and Montreal yesterday and in all cases I had to read up on what was being said. Couldn´t understand the given instructions. Unfortunately, the originally announced VR UI is postponed, which worsens the issue with the bad pronunciations for me under the glasses. It is Early Access and one can hope that things will improve. Besides, I've already spent 30$ on much worse things in MSFS.
Yeah, I know what I’m doing tonight. 😄
Does it have background radio chatter and static? Secondly, I'd like them to work on that squawk as radio is clicked on or off. It's a unique and unmistakable sound in ATC use.
Hopefully this will make some vatsim controllers take note that being rude and short will eventually drive people to these products.
Wonder how far away the ai traffic is? Not fun when tower dosen't control it. Will you need Fs Traffic for liveris?
Does it work with fsltl traffic? Or msfs default traffic? Or it only work with your aircraft?
Wow
What happen when you says something wrong or request a pushback while you already taxiing?