THANKS YOU SO MUCH FOR WATCHING! I know this is *ONLY* an hour & 20 mins, but I am working on some videos for Dec, esp the next one, which might just be about the only Rat Pack member who I haven't done a solo video on ;) I am hoping to show y'all the Ms G Merch designs next video when the samples get here, there are two designs, my patrons and members helped pick them! I love the design, they do, G does, I can't wait to show y'all! Thank you so much for such an amazing year, it has been wonderful because of YOU! We still have lots of content before the year is out, so hopefully see you very soon for the next one & thank you again loves! G & I send love to all! 🐱😘 SOURCES: docs.google.com/document/d/1TnrSB1vQsy7dQn1LXt-1odBw8mqviHrHIi_N0wrdQkc/edit?usp=sharing MY NEW PATREON: www.patreon.com/coffeeandcultsextra/ TH-cam MEMBERSHIP: www.youtube.com/@coffeeandcults/membership *Second Channel - Coffee, Cults & Cats* (launching 2025 sorry for delay) www.youtube.com/@coffeecultsandcats *TV Channel* www.youtube.com/@AshSilver *Insta* instagram.com/theashsilver/ & instagram.com/coffeeandcultsyt *Ms Gloria's Insta - instagram.com/MsGloriaTheCat/ *Twitter* twitter.com/theashsilver/ & Facebook facebook.com/the.ash.silver/
Do you plan to do any deep dives on the actors frequently in Greg Garcia sitcoms? As an elder mellinial that can still quote Mallrats, I really love My Name is Earl and Raising Hope so I was surprised to learn so many of the actors were Scientologists. I just find it so odd that their shows are like my childhood growing up in a trailer park but they follow Scientology irl. Is there a purpose behind that within the Scientology doctrine? 14:05 showing Britney Murphy with the VHS 😍 still keep my vhs copy of mallrats 😂
50s 60s 70, 80, we all dated older man as did women dated younger men so ,now ya got guys registering for dating a younger girls. Some boys are younger in mind at 23 then a 15 year old girl. Further more if ya I'd rather jump in a car the walk everywhere
@ 😂😂 just yap too much. Im always telling my sisters & brother how much I love TH-cam & they keep telling me ‘wow you’ve really found your people’ because you’ll listen to be talk about my hyper fixations 😂 Thanks for watching love
@@coffeeandcults I feel ya on the gift of gab! Being Irish-Italian, I have literally won contests to see who could talk the longest on a single subject 😂 🙊 I'm torn on the use of filibusters but would loooooove the opportunity
Thank you for saying "his next victim" instead of "his next girlfriend." These girls were all taken advantage of by this creep and he made every single one's life worse. They were treated horribly in the media while Valderrama faced no consequences - still! - for his actions.
Was he hiding his scumminess so well? They coukdnt see what happened to the girl before them and how he treated them? Or even just the idea that he only seems to date underage girls? Did they not know how to do the simple math on his previous girlfriends?
The first guy I went to a date with, was one of my dad's coworkers. He was maybe like 26, I was 14. We only went out once and anything physical happened, but clearly it wasn't right. This guy went to date A LOT of underaged girls after me (he was my dad's coworker, that was how I knew). Last year I asked my dad about it. His answer was "you wanted to go out with him". I told him "Yes, but I was 14 and you were the adults". Then my father had to go to the kitchen to look for a very important thing and avoided further talking about the topic. I often think about how many of us were let down by the grown ups around us, and my heart ache. Great video ❤
Not trying to judge u cause it's creepy how old he was. At that age would you have listened to your parents though or just rebelled and done it anyway. I am genuinely curious.
I remember the absolutely atrocious behavior of the paparazzi and the "counting down to 18" mentality toward these girls in the 2000's. These poor girls - I believe you are absolutely correct that the level of scrutiny and smothering is nowhere near what it was then, and always targeted toward these teenage girls. No wonder they acted out in the way they did; they were trapped and poked constantly just to record their reactions. Victims in so very many ways. And so few of their abusers actually being held accountable, while their entire lives were shaped and/or warped by it. Infuriating.
Agreed. Very creepy and sad. Seen way too many interviews where a young girl looks so uncomfortable and sometimes just plain confused as to why certain things are being said to her. Awful.
So funny how stuff like that happens sometimes! But it's correct, I knew it wasn't spoken about much, but when I was researching, I literally found one video on a channel called Deep Dive, and nothing else. Truly crazy. Thanks so much for watching lovely
Yeah, but that's 100% coincidental; Topher didn't hang out with them/doesn't have friends now because he's arrogant and he openly believes that he's too far above everybody else to waste his time with them. It's not a secret that Topher Grace doesn't really play well with others...
Just a friendly reminder for everyone who can to support The Internet Archive who runs The Wayback Machine. They are under heavy fire and it is such a valuable ressource!Thanks, Ash, for another great deep dive! 💜💜 (As always, MVP)
what irks me about Ashton and team is how they act like their derpy and nerdy but are actually the full suite stereotypical jocks. and this veil of being derpy is what fools people to think theyre a-ok and harmless when theyre the exact opposite of.
@@SmilerORocker they can be actors in front of the camera as it's their job. but off camera, still acting like harmless relatable people, but are sharks in both business and socially? so we could agree that it's their whole personality already not acting anymore, i correct myself since i used the word act 😞.
That's a problem w8th a lot of jock culture these days. Every jock also likes to pretend they are a big nerd because they watched the avengers movies or watched Big Bang Theory. All the same people who made lofe a living hell for nerds like 20 years ago are all like "hyuk, I'm a big fun nerd now, I certainly didnt traumatize the same kids I pretend to have comradarie with now by shunning them and destroying their self esteem for my own laughs"
Anyone who tries to justify these relationships and say,"She's mature for her age/she has an old soul" haven't considered that these women were sexualized since puberty. Of course they seem "mature" they've been fending off grown adults since middle school
If I see a "mature" minor in a relationship with an adult who acts childlike (goofy, partying, etc.), I assume that the minor has experienced ab*se or neglect and become parentified, and that the adult has targeted the minor to groom and ab*se for this specific reason
Hit the nail on the head! The first time I was hit on by an ADULT male was when I was 12 years old! I purposely put on weight to try to stop the CONSTANT harassment by men. Didn’t work. I was so grateful to finally go through menopause and become invisible to men! 40 years of sexual harassment is awful and women are putting up with this sh1t less and less nowadays. And I haven’t hesitated to step in and shame men in public for doing it, especially to teens!
I almost feel like we should have a Topher Grace video, as a palate cleanser. Just to catch our breath, restore our faith in humanity... Amazing work as always 😻
If he actually KNEW bad things were going on he was obligated (morally or even legally) to say something. He kept out of it, but if it was because he KNEW of something then … he kept himself safe.. not the victims, of which he’d be in a place to speak up about
i've watched That 70's Show multiple times and it was big part of my teenage years. Its so disheartening to see how twisted and evil the people behind those friendly and lovable characters were. Thanks for bringing these horrible things to light. Worried and excited for the next one! \o/
Mandy, Demi, Demi Moore, and Lindsay all deserved better than Valderrama and Kutcher. These goings on messed with my head as I was growing up, and them too, it's so shit. I'm so glad to hear Lindsay's doing well and slaying, living your life is the best victory against garbage evil shit people if you can do it.
from what I've seen, a lot of people know he's a fucking creep. but when he does 1 decent interview everyone in his comments starts the 'he's come a long way' and 'he's actually so genuine' spiel.
What's really grinding my gears is that as of now, Wilmer Valderrama is currently on NCIS, one of the highest rated and longest running copaganda shows.
It's a longtime family favourite, am based in UK - our TV can be really crap 😂, we all love the science and forensics...no shade please 😱 . We'd never heard of him, genuinely, massively disappointed in the producers on NCIS. 🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮. He plays a really stroppy entitled self centered character - no wonder he's been doing such a realistic job 🤢🤮🤯🤦🤦🤦
I'm the same age as Lindsay Lohan, and I remember all of that creepy dating stuff (plus one of the Good Charlotte guys dating an underage Hilary Duff) when it was happening. My friends and I talked about it a lot, that it was weird that parents, agents, police, etc. weren't doing anything about it, because our parents would have absolutely put their foot down if any of us had even been talking with a guy in his twenties. At the time it felt like the media didn't judge, but the average person definitely did. I always knew WV was a creep, but when he moved on from girls my age to girls my baby sister's age I really started wondering why he wasn't in jail.
i love how organized your videos are, they're so easy to follow and absorb whilst still being super interesting and a perfect mix of casual/professional! i'm really picky on these long-form type videos so i'm super happy i found your channel. keep u the great work! 😊
The amount of young girls who I've seen defend his behavior is a true testament to how vulnerable young girls are to predators, and how society still grooms little girls to listen to weird adult men over the grown women who have already lived those lessons for them. It's scary.
1:02:18 the thing that gets me is you can *tell* when a young person is a teenager. It's harder to tell in photos but in person, I can tell if I'm talking to a child. So him wanting to be besties with children is beyond disgusting.
@@lolalalia4119 I’m 32 and I have a friend who has a 15 year old son. In no way in 2 years will he have grown enough that he’d be a potential love interest……. Absolutely disgusting
To be fair someone who is 20 is still basically a child. Literally still considered a legal minor when it comes to making decisions for themselves like drinking and smoking, but with adult legal responsibilities like being able to die in a war and spend the rest of their life with a criminal record FOR drinking. I don't think the infrastructure is there, especially in education, for teaching these kids responsibility about... Literally anything.
If you have to 'wait' until the stroke of midnight on your 18th to announce your relationship, you're not Cinderella, you're being groomed and your partner is a preditor. I get botox for medical reasons but some of it goes into my forehead. When I say 'botox' I tend to get weird reactions. I've even had people ask me to move my forehead and eyebrows like I'm a circus freak. It's such a weird reaction.
I think I understand why you're getting that response. Getting botox for non-medical reasons is a strange and upsetting action, and people can be thick about distinguishing between the two.
@bubblegumplastic I don't see any problem with botox for cosmetic reasons but I guess there still is a stigma around it. Some people have gotten annoyed when they ask me the cost and I tell them medicare covers it since my chronic migraines are bad enough. One person accused me of faking to get botox. It's very strange
Ugh I'm sorry ppl put you through it. We need to do a better job of being less intrusive and self-righteous about women's body. For all I care, you do you, love! You owe no explanation other than to yourself - is it helping you with the migraines and you get to experience a more enjoyable life? That's all that matters. I'm sending you a virtual hug and remember you are the only one walking in your body and only you get to decide how to take care of it ✌️
@anamakesthings it helps so much! Just over a week after my first session I told my husband how I couldn't work out why I felt weird only to realise that I had no pain. I've had migraines since 12 years old. I was 31 when I got botox and I don't know for how long I have been dealing with pain every day from migraines, even just mild discomfort. I nearly cried when I realised that I just felt... normal. I hadn't really seen myself as chronically ill until that moment and realised what everyone else felt like. My husband had never had a migraine until in his late 20s and once it passed, he just hugged me and told me how strong I was. I had thought it bizarre but sweet until I realised last year that pain wasn't normal. I will verbally smack down anyone who tries to shame me for getting botox. It saved my life because I was losing so much energy and will to live after years of pain. If anyone asks me genuine questions, I'll happily tell them all about it. I've even had doctors ask me about it since neurologists are the only ones who really know how it works with migraines. But so many people just hear botox and think 'vane'. But if you want it for cosmetic reasons, go for it, it's your body and there's nothing wrong with it
@@simphobic1373not by much. Still a 10 year gap between a man in his mid 20s and a girl that wasn’t legal yet. Wonder if Pitt would have been cool with a 26 year old man dating his 15 year old daughter…
@@simphobic1373can't believe you promoting this its still wrong. If your sister is 16 years would you feel comfortable her dating an older 26 years? If you say yes you must be a creep as well.
The pass Wilmer gets is infuriating. He's a classic narcissistic person who preys on teenage girls and manipulates them. Thank you for another great video
We don't know if he's a "classic narcissist" because we only have a few clips/interviews to go off...where he is the person of interest due to his job. Other than the Howard Stern interview he hasn't really said anything super narcissistic. He is a predator, but I think people need to stop throwing around these diagnosis like that, because it does take away their actual meanings. Especially since there's really only around 1-5% of the population who actually have NPD.
I grew up as a huge Demi fan. When I saw how he was with her, I was sooooooo pissed! Only to leave her and marry the next girl after wasting 6 years of her life. She clearly loved him a lot and he used her issues against her. That’s why when you’re trying to be sober you shouldn’t date (although dating an actual good human is different, but it’s a risk). Don’t enter a relationship with an “I’m the problem and he is my savior” dynamic EVER. It was through Demi I found out he had done this to Mandy Lindsay and all the other girls! He will get his karma I’m sure he’s already lost things, we’re just not privy to
@@susanrichardson631 yes mila kunis! She was groomed from being a teenager on the show that’s why it’s kind of hard, I give her some grace. But at this point she’s being held accountable for her choices too
When I was 16 I was dating a 26year old. I was lucky in that he only ever kissed me and I don't think he understands how much damage he did despite not touching me. I was being formed into his perfect wife before I even knew who I was.
He’s a predator who now has a wife and kids I’ll never understand how men who violate get to live a blessed life he’s rich has fame and family when does he get his karma…or does he
@@brennancarter7721it has nothing to do with karma. It might seem like men like this are untouchable & can get away with anything. They aren’t & won’t. Not someone that depraved or that degree of notoriety. They will be found & punished, either by our judicial system, society or some sick individual. The fact that you are here watching this means it’s already happening.
The fact that the parents, agents, directors, and alike all just turned the other way and allowed these underage girls to be assaulted is just as disturbing...
I love how your videos aren’t just entertainment crap and rumors… its often a deep dive into modern social media, social constructs, entertainment and media history and I feel like I’m taking a social media influence class at college, listening to the professor talk about how social media, vhs/dvds and magazines, tabloids, and blogs shaped the way we see celebrities and their drama. How the spread of news was slower and more mundane just 20+ years ago and how things have changed and influenced today’s stars, how they navigate social media and how PR teams handle scandals and drama. Kudos to you for taking the time to research, talk and deep dive into the intricacies of how media and the internet has shaped our culture today and how it’s changed in such a short amount of time. ❤❤
Thank you for the video. Disappointing to see how many of the comments are from adults who think teenagers are fair game 😟 some of these comments literally deserve a trigger warning bc wtf did I just read 😵💫🤮
Unfortunately it doesn't help that tv and movies promote this behavior as "okay" over the years. Even in the 90's, I remember being upset by Saved by the Bell when Kelly was dating her boss, who also happened to be in college. Even as a kid, I knew that was wrong and I was never charmed by him so I hated the storyline. It irked me the only issue was "oh no Kelly and Zack should be together", not "oh no this is kinda creepy", and it only ended, because he was a cheater. It just annoyed me a lot as a kid since it felt like he "got away with it".
They behave like that because the reality of the situation is that with the human trafficking that is taking place in the US among the rich and powerful it is... That's the ugly truth that no one speaks on.
It's weird af. What 25+ year old wants to hang with a teenager? No ulterior motives? Yeah right. Age and experience offered Demi a little more perspective
Lindsay Lohan is legitimately looking SO good and that makes me happy, regardless if she's had work done or not. I've never gotten the obsession people end up getting over other people getting cosmetic procedures. Be open about it, 100%, but I can also understand people not being open with how mean people end up being in regards to them.
Yeah I find it super creepy how people expect women to publicly talk about medical procedures whether cosmetic or not. Like, that’s between her and her doctor can we stop feeling so entitled to women’s bodies? I’m also not a big fan of ‘well they’re influencing people to hate their own bodies!’ But I don’t see how forcing women to share personal information is a step forward for feminism especially when it comes to THEIR own bodies
I feel like people's issue is more when celebs go out of their way to openly lie about it (like the Kardashians being all ~omg no I just gained some weight and thats how I grew boobs/a butt, or when they claim they're not aging just because of good skincare whilst not being able to emote anymore). I think it's different if the topic never comes up - then they shouldn't have to come out and say they did something.
Ive always thought of it more as they are choosing to become famous so young girls are going to want to look like them,if they pretend they haven't had surgery when they have it creates more unrealistic body ideals for those girls.
I love Lindsay Lohan. She's the same age as my children and I felt really sad for her when she was going through those awful years. I'm glad that she was able to turn her life around. Love watching her old and new movies on Netflix.
Vellderama was such an unapologetic predator. He was obvious. Too many adult men were peacocking their unhealthy relationships with the “barely legal”.
When I was 29 I met a 19 year old girl at work through a mutual friend and we all hung out for a while. I couldn’t maintain that friendship. We had nothing in common. I didn’t enjoy talking to her. The age difference was too big. I cannot understand why men want relationships with women so much younger than them.
I am 30 years old and I have a cousin who is 18 years old and I can tell you from experience that we have nothing in common. I could not imagine trying to date someone his age at my age or even being friends with someone that age. Heck, I have coworkers who are 20-27 years old that I have a hard time relating to because we are in such different places in life.
I was pretty young when he dated Mandy Moore and Lindsey Lohan and I still thought it was very strange. And then I was truly disturbed when he did it AGAIN with Demi Lovato. I'm so glad you covered this. It's really important and NEEDS to be talked about.
If you are interested I have a video on One Tree Hill where I talk about everything with CMM. I do have a lot of other WB & CW shows on my long list of future topics! Thanks for watching!
I won’t give the algorithm too much credit, but I’m really glad this channel was recommended to me after I recovered from my own past experiences. I love your channel🤗💜
She is currently playing hard to get as she’s in a fierce salary negotiation right now as she’s requested a significant pay bump for 2025. Obv I’m going to pay it as she’s the star, but she’s really making me sweat about whether she’ll take it! Thanks so much for watching love!
You might just raise your eyebrows and overlook Wilmer aged 20 dating Mandy aged 16 since he has just left his teen years and could still have a teen mindset. However, repeatedly dating girls aged around 18 as you continue to get older definitely makes it appear predatory, especially when these girls were clearly vulnerable with mental health issues.
That's what I thought! I thought age of consent was 18 for the entire U.S. but a friend told me last year it's state by state so I Googled it and a shocking number of states have it at 16! Wtf?!
Yeah the laws in a lot of states actually changed around that time to put stricter limits on it. Some states used to be you could have a partner up to 30 (or any age, originally) if you were 16.
@@AnotherAustin-z7bthere are still States where you can date someone 30+ at 16 as long as they aren't a Teacher/Instructor or in a Guardianship position. Please Google before you counter me with misinformation. Also there are Romeo and Juliet/close in age exemptions in States where one person may be over the age of consent and another under but it's not illegal if it's within a certain age range.
Love that I’ve found your channel! I remember all this era being a year younger than Lindsey. It was insane how famous she was and all of the goings on. She really was treated terribly. Excellent as always, it feels like a chat with a friend over coffee!
I for one am relieved that Lindsay Lohan has made it through the trials of fame and success. She could have easily crashed and burned but she is living her best life, as they say, and I’m happy for her.
I'm so glad that his behavior is being called out. Demi Lovato was still a teenager when they first started dating. For the longest people pretended like it never happened.
Might just be whoever runs his social media. Or he really, legit doesn't know and just thinks of him as an old friend even though they were never even friends like that. Maybe he thinks the dude changed and is different now. You will have to ask him, go ahead.
A real MVP here for making it through this amazingly produced and informative video. As someone who was in elementary and middle school during this era of stars, stepping back and seeing how sexist and predatory these interviewers, questions and magazines were from "journalists" and how I would just believe what they said truly blows my mind. To these poor victims of Valderrama, I hope they are now able to find peace and no longer associate with this predator. I love your videos, as a new subscriber, and have binged all of your videos in the last month or so, as your voice is so soothing and how you approach these videos is such a professional. The many lives you've lived to bring us your real life experiences to these videos is truly appreciated.
Im a millennial and although we didnt have internet at home at the time, i still really remember seeing all these stars on mag covers and those movies all coming out early 2000's. I remember just seeing so many pics of Lindsy, (and the other mega female stars of the time!), all over and all shaming the young ladies, (their under 18, so GIRLS,) for "dating" older men. I thought then it was just so odd and strange, and almost felt it being really creepy. Now that im over 30 i just really shake my head at this stuff. Not so much the partying and drinking, thats what most teens do, but just seeing their relationships with the older men. And how the GIRLS seem to always be shamed for it, and that its always their fault for being abused. You hardly ever see pics of the Rat Pack males, (and others that were in the early 2000's big stars), being trashed or half passed out or having Eating Disorders or anything of this nature. Its also very interesting that alot of the news stories and videos that you used about a year ago on Danny Masterson is no longer there, it shows how important it is to keep talking about this horrible topic! Also, Im finally seeing how those average looking older creepy men end up hooking all those young gorgoes girls..... Something ive always wondered about, now that im older i finally see. Thanks again for all your hard work!
When I was younger, I would hear rumors that Topher wasn’t friends with the rest of the cast (except for Laura). I would feel so bad for him that the other guys wouldn’t go out with him and alienated him. NOW I SEE that it was probably a good thing because all 3 of the other guys in the show were CREEPS. Topher knew what gross stuff they were doing and said “no.” Good for him
MVP here!! This was very informative. I had no idea about some of the things Wilmer Valderrama has done but he and the entire cast of T7S always has given me ick vibes.
Can we just talk about how - he was “Handy Manny” for Disneys Toddlers? I feel like that was a fever dream Edit: and he’s in Encanto and Onward, also was in Wizards of Waverly Place. He’s just always around Disney and Disney children-“women”
I watch your videos start to finish while staying home with my young baby. You and Ms. G have gotten me through so many pumping sessions and long days where I just need to hear an adult voice talking about adult things. Thank you!!
Im curious about Kutchers relationship more now since I read Demi Moores book. She did not say much at all about his partying with Masterson or the Diddy affiliation. And idk if it's just because she didn't want to drag herself into or if she seriously really did not involve herself with diddy/Masterson while her and kutcher were married/dating.
I’ve been watching your videos today so great timing for me! I just moved and need something to listen to while unpacking. Something about all of these actors hasn’t sat right with me and your videos are confirmation. Thank you for these videos I appreciate your hard work and dedication to the truth 💕
I hope your move went well & the unpacking goes by quick! It will be nice to get settled in for the Holidays! Thank you so much for the kind words & for watching
I always found it weird that no one mentioned how predatory his behavior was, dating underage girls, going younger and younger, the private information he shared about them was disgusting, hope this one lands in jail as well....
MVP What ever you cover, I'll watch. Whoever you cover, I'll watch. Whenever you cover, I'll watch. I think that just about covers it all!! Love your channel.
I’m often surprised that no one ever seems to mention the fact that the three of them (Ashton Kutcher, Wilmer Valderrama, and Danny Masterson) are basically real life versions of their That 70’s Show characters.
Hey ash just want to say ur videos are my favorite and I really appreciate how in depth you get with it especially when we get editing ash clips lol thanks for all you hard work and look forward to watching this video and what to come
I like and appreciate your research, your video structure, and more importantly, you want to give us all the information there is. I wish you continue to succeed and keep producing such great quality content! ❤
when I was 24 I dated a 19 year old dude for two weeks and I broke up with him because we ended up having absolutely nothing in common or substance to talk about. I had experienced so much more in life already and he had not. The maturity gap was definitely evident as well. I cannot understand for any reason what anyone with a huge age gap like 17 & 29 have in common. It had to be strictly creepy on his part is the only way it makes sense to me. And it seems to be many men unfortunately, I dealt with older men coming onto me as a teen all too often. Hell it still creeps me out when a 50 year old hits on me at 28.
As a dude, though not one who's gone after teens haha, it is entirely sexual. Lot of women wish it was different, and a lot of men will tell you it is, but you can take this to the bank: 99.99999999% of the reason we're ever interested in you, is sexual. No, it isn't right or mature, or conducive to a long-term healthy relationship. It is still true. And your man is not the exception. If I sound a little aggressive, I'm preemptively annoyed at the people who will tell me I'm wrong and only exposing myself 😂 I've been around a while. People have their reasons for not wanting to believe it and/or lying about it. I simply have no interest in lying about what we all intuitively know anyway.
I am very happy to have enjoyed all your back content and love how hard to work on editing and producing these for our enjoyment and information. You excel at this work. You’ve found your true passion. Miss G is an amazing boss to work for. I love her candid appearances and sleep cameos. Edit - I never watched this show but enjoy learning all about the cast of characters. I would have liked Topher the most. I always had a horrible intuition about Ashton and Danny I have skin crawl. Mila I know nothing about really or the other lass Just what I’ve learned from you. I would have thought the parent characters on the show would have had an adult calming behaviour influence on these kids but I guess not. They were probably not friendly being different generations.
Thank you so much lovely! Ms G runs a tight ship, but we love it. We wouldn't have this job without wonderful people like you supporting us so thank you!
What you said about gen Z is precisely why I like gen Z. I've gone 57years appreciating meeting the rare person who was very informed about social issues, and it's refreshing for it to be relatively easy these days to find people who are switched on. Gen Z usually needs no explanation of social issues. They can see through the BS. I have so many authentic conversations with young people these days.
Just found your channel a couple days ago and have watched 3-4 thus far and they are all really amazing. Great writing, editing, long lost footage, etc..keep it up! Merry Christmas 🎄
I love when you do content regarding that 70's show, specially now that is so relevant. I watched Agatha All Along (loved it) but I was so torn when people were talking about Debra Jo and how sweet she is ans such, and meanwhile she sent a letter to Danny Masterson's judge to help him. Your videos are so important and I'm also so excited that Ms G is gonna have her merch (bc, let's face it, the cat is always the one that own everything lol)
As a new subscriber, I thoroughly enjoy the detailed and careful recounting of these deep dives. I can't click fast enough when I get your "new episode" notification. Keep up the great work . MVP 🎄
First of all I love how the restaurant is called la POUBELLE meaning TRASH CAN and it’s actually where all those people go all the time 🤣 secondly I found your channel on chat gpt advice. Best advice ever! Fellow ADHD loving this systematic deep dives; MVP all the time.
THANKS YOU SO MUCH FOR WATCHING! I know this is *ONLY* an hour & 20 mins, but I am working on some videos for Dec, esp the next one, which might just be about the only Rat Pack member who I haven't done a solo video on ;) I am hoping to show y'all the Ms G Merch designs next video when the samples get here, there are two designs, my patrons and members helped pick them! I love the design, they do, G does, I can't wait to show y'all! Thank you so much for such an amazing year, it has been wonderful because of YOU! We still have lots of content before the year is out, so hopefully see you very soon for the next one & thank you again loves! G & I send love to all! 🐱😘
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Girl, the mere fact you feel the need to explain releasing a video that's *ONLY* 80min is a testament of the fine work you do 😂
Do you plan to do any deep dives on the actors frequently in Greg Garcia sitcoms? As an elder mellinial that can still quote Mallrats, I really love My Name is Earl and Raising Hope so I was surprised to learn so many of the actors were Scientologists. I just find it so odd that their shows are like my childhood growing up in a trailer park but they follow Scientology irl. Is there a purpose behind that within the Scientology doctrine?
14:05 showing Britney Murphy with the VHS 😍 still keep my vhs copy of mallrats 😂
50s 60s 70, 80, we all dated older man as did women dated younger men so ,now ya got guys registering for dating a younger girls. Some boys are younger in mind at 23 then a 15 year old girl. Further more if ya I'd rather jump in a car the walk everywhere
@ 😂😂 just yap too much. Im always telling my sisters & brother how much I love TH-cam & they keep telling me ‘wow you’ve really found your people’ because you’ll listen to be talk about my hyper fixations 😂 Thanks for watching love
@@coffeeandcults I feel ya on the gift of gab! Being Irish-Italian, I have literally won contests to see who could talk the longest on a single subject 😂 🙊 I'm torn on the use of filibusters but would loooooove the opportunity
Thank you for saying "his next victim" instead of "his next girlfriend." These girls were all taken advantage of by this creep and he made every single one's life worse. They were treated horribly in the media while Valderrama faced no consequences - still! - for his actions.
He is legit so gross and clearly obsessed with underage girls 🤢🤮
Absolutely.
It’s wild that it doesn’t get called out more often.
Gross behavior is an understatement.
his things are creepy
Was he hiding his scumminess so well? They coukdnt see what happened to the girl before them and how he treated them? Or even just the idea that he only seems to date underage girls?
Did they not know how to do the simple math on his previous girlfriends?
@@Dan55888um, no? They were basically children, so...
The first guy I went to a date with, was one of my dad's coworkers. He was maybe like 26, I was 14. We only went out once and anything physical happened, but clearly it wasn't right. This guy went to date A LOT of underaged girls after me (he was my dad's coworker, that was how I knew). Last year I asked my dad about it. His answer was "you wanted to go out with him". I told him "Yes, but I was 14 and you were the adults". Then my father had to go to the kitchen to look for a very important thing and avoided further talking about the topic.
I often think about how many of us were let down by the grown ups around us, and my heart ache.
Great video ❤
That's awful. I'm so sorry your dad failed you in that way.
@itzakpoelzig330 Don't worry! I have many stories like that 😅 I'm healing and trying to be the adult that I needed when I was growing❤️
Not trying to judge u cause it's creepy how old he was. At that age would you have listened to your parents though or just rebelled and done it anyway. I am genuinely curious.
@MustAvoidScurvy I hope for your safety and sanity you have created space between you and your father...how could he put you in harms way like that?
Sounds like dad is embarrassed. He sees his mistake.
"Grab a drink and a snack." Girl, I grabbed a liter of water and an entire dinner. I'm locked in and ready.
3.36am.... one bottle of water and frying some chips/fries/spuds 😅 👍🇮🇪
I made a charcuterie (sliced tomatoes, Ritz, and cubes of cheddar cheese) to celebrate!
preach
😂😂😂
@@alexsmith319 hahaha holy shit that made me laugh
I remember the absolutely atrocious behavior of the paparazzi and the "counting down to 18" mentality toward these girls in the 2000's. These poor girls - I believe you are absolutely correct that the level of scrutiny and smothering is nowhere near what it was then, and always targeted toward these teenage girls. No wonder they acted out in the way they did; they were trapped and poked constantly just to record their reactions. Victims in so very many ways. And so few of their abusers actually being held accountable, while their entire lives were shaped and/or warped by it. Infuriating.
I only know about that a few years ago because I didn’t follow celebrities on a regular basis and I still don’t but I found it quite sickening .
Emma Watson was talking about something like this
They were doing this in the 70's and 80's too. 🤢🤮
The Olsen Twins countdown was just…. appalling.
So were press who asked them about it.
Agreed. Very creepy and sad. Seen way too many interviews where a young girl looks so uncomfortable and sometimes just plain confused as to why certain things are being said to her. Awful.
I literally saw a post today saying how no one talks about him dating underage girls and no wonder Topher Grace distanced himself from the others.😮
So funny how stuff like that happens sometimes! But it's correct, I knew it wasn't spoken about much, but when I was researching, I literally found one video on a channel called Deep Dive, and nothing else. Truly crazy. Thanks so much for watching lovely
Topher was the star and the only actual decent one. Clown world.
On Twitter, right? Me too.
Same! I saw a tweet yesterday about how little coverage his behavior has gotten
Yeah, but that's 100% coincidental; Topher didn't hang out with them/doesn't have friends now because he's arrogant and he openly believes that he's too far above everybody else to waste his time with them. It's not a secret that Topher Grace doesn't really play well with others...
Just a friendly reminder for everyone who can to support The Internet Archive who runs The Wayback Machine. They are under heavy fire and it is such a valuable ressource!Thanks, Ash, for another great deep dive! 💜💜 (As always, MVP)
They are part of the predator class and there are other, better archive sites, that don't have Blackrock connections. 😬🤷🏼♀️
@ I had no idea - can you perhaps guide me towards some more info on that? Tysm
@@Linejs1Seconded. I’ve read so many free books from the Internet Archive and now I feel bad
@@Linejs1 thank you so much for watching lovely 😘
Omg I didn't know that 😮 what other site can I use?@@VioletPersuasion
what irks me about Ashton and team is how they act like their derpy and nerdy but are actually the full suite stereotypical jocks. and this veil of being derpy is what fools people to think theyre a-ok and harmless when theyre the exact opposite of.
That's why they're actors
Omg this!!!!
@@SmilerORocker they can be actors in front of the camera as it's their job. but off camera, still acting like harmless relatable people, but are sharks in both business and socially? so we could agree that it's their whole personality already not acting anymore, i correct myself since i used the word act 😞.
That's a problem w8th a lot of jock culture these days.
Every jock also likes to pretend they are a big nerd because they watched the avengers movies or watched Big Bang Theory.
All the same people who made lofe a living hell for nerds like 20 years ago are all like "hyuk, I'm a big fun nerd now, I certainly didnt traumatize the same kids I pretend to have comradarie with now by shunning them and destroying their self esteem for my own laughs"
They're not jocks, they're predators and druggies.
Anyone who tries to justify these relationships and say,"She's mature for her age/she has an old soul" haven't considered that these women were sexualized since puberty. Of course they seem "mature" they've been fending off grown adults since middle school
If I see a "mature" minor in a relationship with an adult who acts childlike (goofy, partying, etc.), I assume that the minor has experienced ab*se or neglect and become parentified, and that the adult has targeted the minor to groom and ab*se for this specific reason
Hit the nail on the head! The first time I was hit on by an ADULT male was when I was 12 years old! I purposely put on weight to try to stop the CONSTANT harassment by men. Didn’t work. I was so grateful to finally go through menopause and become invisible to men! 40 years of sexual harassment is awful and women are putting up with this sh1t less and less nowadays. And I haven’t hesitated to step in and shame men in public for doing it, especially to teens!
🤢 painfully true
@@AuDHDarling🙄 kids are their "thing"
Let me guess it only ok if leonardo de caprio does it
I almost feel like we should have a Topher Grace video, as a palate cleanser. Just to catch our breath, restore our faith in humanity...
Amazing work as always 😻
I 👍
If he actually KNEW bad things were going on he was obligated (morally or even legally) to say something. He kept out of it, but if it was because he KNEW of something then … he kept himself safe.. not the victims, of which he’d be in a place to speak up about
i've watched That 70's Show multiple times and it was big part of my teenage years. Its so disheartening to see how twisted and evil the people behind those friendly and lovable characters were.
Thanks for bringing these horrible things to light.
Worried and excited for the next one! \o/
Mandy, Demi, Demi Moore, and Lindsay all deserved better than Valderrama and Kutcher. These goings on messed with my head as I was growing up, and them too, it's so shit. I'm so glad to hear Lindsay's doing well and slaying, living your life is the best victory against garbage evil shit people if you can do it.
Why is no one mentioning what a pig Howard Stern is with all his sick questions/remarks
He's protected like weinstein
I never understand why people let him get away with his nasty line of questioning
He’s ✡️
from what I've seen, a lot of people know he's a fucking creep. but when he does 1 decent interview everyone in his comments starts the 'he's come a long way' and 'he's actually so genuine' spiel.
Because he is Howard Stern and everybody already knows who he is.
What's really grinding my gears is that as of now, Wilmer Valderrama is currently on NCIS, one of the highest rated and longest running copaganda shows.
Yes, he’s got through it all unscathed
My parents love him on it 🙄
ACAB
It's a longtime family favourite, am based in UK - our TV can be really crap 😂, we all love the science and forensics...no shade please 😱 . We'd never heard of him, genuinely, massively disappointed in the producers on NCIS. 🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮. He plays a really stroppy entitled self centered character - no wonder he's been doing such a realistic job 🤢🤮🤯🤦🤦🤦
@@immaseahorse24maybe only until now 😂😂😂
I'm the same age as Lindsay Lohan, and I remember all of that creepy dating stuff (plus one of the Good Charlotte guys dating an underage Hilary Duff) when it was happening. My friends and I talked about it a lot, that it was weird that parents, agents, police, etc. weren't doing anything about it, because our parents would have absolutely put their foot down if any of us had even been talking with a guy in his twenties. At the time it felt like the media didn't judge, but the average person definitely did.
I always knew WV was a creep, but when he moved on from girls my age to girls my baby sister's age I really started wondering why he wasn't in jail.
Diddy, Kutcher, Masterson, and Valderrama should be called the Scat Pack. All these men are shitty.
That was good! I wish I thought of it 😂
I would love to see a deep dive on Howard Stern because his behavior specifically towards women has always been disgusting.
YES!!!!❤❤
That's literally his whole thing. That's like the only aspect of his personality. What is there to dive into
He's Howard Stern...
@@mistermax3034that excuses absolutely nothing bro
There’s a movie about him.
i love how organized your videos are, they're so easy to follow and absorb whilst still being super interesting and a perfect mix of casual/professional! i'm really picky on these long-form type videos so i'm super happy i found your channel. keep u
the great work! 😊
Thank you so much, what a lovely comment! Really appreciate the kinds words lovely
@@coffeeandcults no problem!! thanks for all the work you put into making great content 🩷
Couldn't have said it better myself.💯 🎄🎅❄️☃️
❤❤❤ totally agree!!!
Agreeed
The amount of young girls who I've seen defend his behavior is a true testament to how vulnerable young girls are to predators, and how society still grooms little girls to listen to weird adult men over the grown women who have already lived those lessons for them. It's scary.
1:02:18 the thing that gets me is you can *tell* when a young person is a teenager. It's harder to tell in photos but in person, I can tell if I'm talking to a child. So him wanting to be besties with children is beyond disgusting.
@@lolalalia4119 I’m 32 and I have a friend who has a 15 year old son. In no way in 2 years will he have grown enough that he’d be a potential love interest……. Absolutely disgusting
It's predator behavior which is why he was "in" with Ashton and Co. Says a lot about Topher Grace's character. I have enormous respect for him now.
To be fair someone who is 20 is still basically a child. Literally still considered a legal minor when it comes to making decisions for themselves like drinking and smoking, but with adult legal responsibilities like being able to die in a war and spend the rest of their life with a criminal record FOR drinking. I don't think the infrastructure is there, especially in education, for teaching these kids responsibility about... Literally anything.
@AnotherAustin-z7b
They're ADULTS not children. Stop repeating leftist garbage.
@@AnotherAustin-z7bno
If you have to 'wait' until the stroke of midnight on your 18th to announce your relationship, you're not Cinderella, you're being groomed and your partner is a preditor.
I get botox for medical reasons but some of it goes into my forehead. When I say 'botox' I tend to get weird reactions. I've even had people ask me to move my forehead and eyebrows like I'm a circus freak. It's such a weird reaction.
I think I understand why you're getting that response. Getting botox for non-medical reasons is a strange and upsetting action, and people can be thick about distinguishing between the two.
@bubblegumplastic I don't see any problem with botox for cosmetic reasons but I guess there still is a stigma around it. Some people have gotten annoyed when they ask me the cost and I tell them medicare covers it since my chronic migraines are bad enough. One person accused me of faking to get botox. It's very strange
Ugh I'm sorry ppl put you through it. We need to do a better job of being less intrusive and self-righteous about women's body.
For all I care, you do you, love!
You owe no explanation other than to yourself - is it helping you with the migraines and you get to experience a more enjoyable life? That's all that matters.
I'm sending you a virtual hug and remember you are the only one walking in your body and only you get to decide how to take care of it ✌️
@@anamakesthingsI agree.
@anamakesthings it helps so much! Just over a week after my first session I told my husband how I couldn't work out why I felt weird only to realise that I had no pain. I've had migraines since 12 years old. I was 31 when I got botox and I don't know for how long I have been dealing with pain every day from migraines, even just mild discomfort. I nearly cried when I realised that I just felt... normal.
I hadn't really seen myself as chronically ill until that moment and realised what everyone else felt like. My husband had never had a migraine until in his late 20s and once it passed, he just hugged me and told me how strong I was. I had thought it bizarre but sweet until I realised last year that pain wasn't normal. I will verbally smack down anyone who tries to shame me for getting botox. It saved my life because I was losing so much energy and will to live after years of pain.
If anyone asks me genuine questions, I'll happily tell them all about it. I've even had doctors ask me about it since neurologists are the only ones who really know how it works with migraines. But so many people just hear botox and think 'vane'. But if you want it for cosmetic reasons, go for it, it's your body and there's nothing wrong with it
Can you look into Brad Pitt, please? He was almost 30 and dating 14/15 yo Juliette Lewis.
He was 26 and she was 16. That’s different than almost 30 (28,29) and 14,15.
@@simphobic1373not by much. Still a 10 year gap between a man in his mid 20s and a girl that wasn’t legal yet.
Wonder if Pitt would have been cool with a 26 year old man dating his 15 year old daughter…
@@simphobic1373can't believe you promoting this its still wrong. If your sister is 16 years would you feel comfortable her dating an older 26 years? If you say yes you must be a creep as well.
That's more weird than being 20 and dating someone 16. Not by much.
Eww!
The pass Wilmer gets is infuriating. He's a classic narcissistic person who preys on teenage girls and manipulates them. Thank you for another great video
We don't know if he's a "classic narcissist" because we only have a few clips/interviews to go off...where he is the person of interest due to his job. Other than the Howard Stern interview he hasn't really said anything super narcissistic. He is a predator, but I think people need to stop throwing around these diagnosis like that, because it does take away their actual meanings. Especially since there's really only around 1-5% of the population who actually have NPD.
I grew up as a huge Demi fan. When I saw how he was with her, I was sooooooo pissed! Only to leave her and marry the next girl after wasting 6 years of her life. She clearly loved him a lot and he used her issues against her. That’s why when you’re trying to be sober you shouldn’t date (although dating an actual good human is different, but it’s a risk). Don’t enter a relationship with an “I’m the problem and he is my savior” dynamic EVER.
It was through Demi I found out he had done this to Mandy Lindsay and all the other girls! He will get his karma I’m sure he’s already lost things, we’re just not privy to
I don't get the girl who married him. Like ,what? 😬
What bothers me is where is the karma for Kutcher. Also I believe that he's married to one of his victims right now
@@ChrystalVanDusseldorp exactly 😅 but what I’ve learned is people who marry someone like that, are usually just like them.
@@susanrichardson631 yes mila kunis! She was groomed from being a teenager on the show that’s why it’s kind of hard, I give her some grace. But at this point she’s being held accountable for her choices too
@@susanrichardson631 Mila Kunis
When I was 16 I was dating a 26year old. I was lucky in that he only ever kissed me and I don't think he understands how much damage he did despite not touching me. I was being formed into his perfect wife before I even knew who I was.
He’s a predator who now has a wife and kids I’ll never understand how men who violate get to live a blessed life he’s rich has fame and family when does he get his karma…or does he
We will see.
Sadly, Karma is BS.
@@brennancarter7721 Exactly. Karma is just another way of letting ppl get away with shit
@@brennancarter7721it has nothing to do with karma. It might seem like men like this are untouchable & can get away with anything. They aren’t & won’t. Not someone that depraved or that degree of notoriety. They will be found & punished, either by our judicial system, society or some sick individual. The fact that you are here watching this means it’s already happening.
Karma is sometimes sadly for the next lifetime and not this one.
The fact that the parents, agents, directors, and alike all just turned the other way and allowed these underage girls to be assaulted is just as disturbing...
I've been saying he needs to be in jail. He's a predator just like his homies
Yep all 3 needs to be in prison.
I love how your videos aren’t just entertainment crap and rumors… its often a deep dive into modern social media, social constructs, entertainment and media history and I feel like I’m taking a social media influence class at college, listening to the professor talk about how social media, vhs/dvds and magazines, tabloids, and blogs shaped the way we see celebrities and their drama. How the spread of news was slower and more mundane just 20+ years ago and how things have changed and influenced today’s stars, how they navigate social media and how PR teams handle scandals and drama. Kudos to you for taking the time to research, talk and deep dive into the intricacies of how media and the internet has shaped our culture today and how it’s changed in such a short amount of time. ❤❤
Thank you for the video. Disappointing to see how many of the comments are from adults who think teenagers are fair game 😟 some of these comments literally deserve a trigger warning bc wtf did I just read 😵💫🤮
Unfortunately it doesn't help that tv and movies promote this behavior as "okay" over the years. Even in the 90's, I remember being upset by Saved by the Bell when Kelly was dating her boss, who also happened to be in college. Even as a kid, I knew that was wrong and I was never charmed by him so I hated the storyline. It irked me the only issue was "oh no Kelly and Zack should be together", not "oh no this is kinda creepy", and it only ended, because he was a cheater. It just annoyed me a lot as a kid since it felt like he "got away with it".
They behave like that because the reality of the situation is that with the human trafficking that is taking place in the US among the rich and powerful it is... That's the ugly truth that no one speaks on.
@@Rachel-xu4br he did get away with it
It's weird af. What 25+ year old wants to hang with a teenager? No ulterior motives? Yeah right. Age and experience offered Demi a little more perspective
Lindsay Lohan is legitimately looking SO good and that makes me happy, regardless if she's had work done or not. I've never gotten the obsession people end up getting over other people getting cosmetic procedures. Be open about it, 100%, but I can also understand people not being open with how mean people end up being in regards to them.
Yeah I find it super creepy how people expect women to publicly talk about medical procedures whether cosmetic or not. Like, that’s between her and her doctor can we stop feeling so entitled to women’s bodies? I’m also not a big fan of ‘well they’re influencing people to hate their own bodies!’ But I don’t see how forcing women to share personal information is a step forward for feminism especially when it comes to THEIR own bodies
I feel like people's issue is more when celebs go out of their way to openly lie about it (like the Kardashians being all ~omg no I just gained some weight and thats how I grew boobs/a butt, or when they claim they're not aging just because of good skincare whilst not being able to emote anymore). I think it's different if the topic never comes up - then they shouldn't have to come out and say they did something.
Ive always thought of it more as they are choosing to become famous so young girls are going to want to look like them,if they pretend they haven't had surgery when they have it creates more unrealistic body ideals for those girls.
Living her best life . I've been a fan forever , it's wonderful to see her doing so well .
I love Lindsay Lohan. She's the same age as my children and I felt really sad for her when she was going through those awful years.
I'm glad that she was able to turn her life around. Love watching her old and new movies on Netflix.
Vellderama was such an unapologetic predator. He was obvious. Too many adult men were peacocking their unhealthy relationships with the “barely legal”.
When I was 29 I met a 19 year old girl at work through a mutual friend and we all hung out for a while. I couldn’t maintain that friendship. We had nothing in common. I didn’t enjoy talking to her. The age difference was too big. I cannot understand why men want relationships with women so much younger than them.
"My experience was poor, so everybody's must be poor too!"
Holy duck, HOW can you consider yourself an adult with this perverted mentality..?!? HOW?!?
@ “perverted” 🤣🤣🤣 so stupid not even worth the effort. Thanks for the laugh hun!
@@matteo1429 what? So you're on here defending pedophilia?!! Wow I hope you get the life you deserve and hopefully the rest of it's in prison.
I am 30 years old and I have a cousin who is 18 years old and I can tell you from experience that we have nothing in common. I could not imagine trying to date someone his age at my age or even being friends with someone that age. Heck, I have coworkers who are 20-27 years old that I have a hard time relating to because we are in such different places in life.
I was pretty young when he dated Mandy Moore and Lindsey Lohan and I still thought it was very strange. And then I was truly disturbed when he did it AGAIN with Demi Lovato. I'm so glad you covered this. It's really important and NEEDS to be talked about.
Can you please do an expose on Chad Michael Murray and Milo Ventimiglia next on how they also dated teenage girls too
If you are interested I have a video on One Tree Hill where I talk about everything with CMM. I do have a lot of other WB & CW shows on my long list of future topics! Thanks for watching!
Yes! Milo was near 30 and dating Hayden at like 15/16? Gross.
@@thebatridesagain
Why did I think she was 18/19 still too young
@@thebatridesagain She was 18 and he was 30 when they started dating.
@@AngelicVirgoNaw…they just went public close to her 18th. Mom was all for it…I remember an Extra interview with her gushing over him!
I won’t give the algorithm too much credit, but I’m really glad this channel was recommended to me after I recovered from my own past experiences.
I love your channel🤗💜
Miss G waited an unusually long time to make an appearance! Great video as always
She is currently playing hard to get as she’s in a fierce salary negotiation right now as she’s requested a significant pay bump for 2025. Obv I’m going to pay it as she’s the star, but she’s really making me sweat about whether she’ll take it! Thanks so much for watching love!
@@coffeeandcultsNo one can out negotiate a Queen Feline!
You might just raise your eyebrows and overlook Wilmer aged 20 dating Mandy aged 16 since he has just left his teen years and could still have a teen mindset. However, repeatedly dating girls aged around 18 as you continue to get older definitely makes it appear predatory, especially when these girls were clearly vulnerable with mental health issues.
"it wasn't as taboo" ummm it was illegal.
That's what I thought! I thought age of consent was 18 for the entire U.S. but a friend told me last year it's state by state so I Googled it and a shocking number of states have it at 16! Wtf?!
@lkf8799 look up the age of consent for Vatican city. You'll be even more amazed
Yeah the laws in a lot of states actually changed around that time to put stricter limits on it. Some states used to be you could have a partner up to 30 (or any age, originally) if you were 16.
@@AnotherAustin-z7bthere are still States where you can date someone 30+ at 16 as long as they aren't a Teacher/Instructor or in a Guardianship position. Please Google before you counter me with misinformation.
Also there are Romeo and Juliet/close in age exemptions in States where one person may be over the age of consent and another under but it's not illegal if it's within a certain age range.
Ot not illegal it only illegal if thing get physical
Love that I’ve found your channel! I remember all this era being a year younger than Lindsey. It was insane how famous she was and all of the goings on. She really was treated terribly. Excellent as always, it feels like a chat with a friend over coffee!
I for one am relieved that Lindsay Lohan has made it through the trials of fame and success. She could have easily crashed and burned but she is living her best life, as they say, and I’m happy for her.
She kinda did crash and burn for a long time though, but agree... she's looking well of late. 👍🇮🇪
She did crash and burn
Wish Amanda Bynes also reaches where Lindsey Lohan is now.
Is this a joke? Lol
Shes crashed and is burning still
It’s so crazy how much controversy was surrounding this show.
I hate that we live in a world where celebrities see just how awful these people are but keep their secrets. Some secrets need to be told
I'm so glad that his behavior is being called out. Demi Lovato was still a teenager when they first started dating. For the longest people pretended like it never happened.
I appreciate all your deep dive videos, keep up the amazing content!
There were a whole slew of celebrities hospitalized for “exhaustion” back then lol
You killed it with the video! It’s crazy how much new information you find about these people. Just when you think you know it all boom! Great job 💛
The weekend needs someone to check his exploitation of women too.
Looking firward to seeing Lindsey's future projects. She is far more talented than we know.
In CA it was illegal to date a 16 year old if you were 20. He actually started dating her when she was 15.
Dang why would Topher ruin his image by claiming Valderama😂
@@c.w.8200seems easy to avoid. Drop them?
Might just be whoever runs his social media. Or he really, legit doesn't know and just thinks of him as an old friend even though they were never even friends like that. Maybe he thinks the dude changed and is different now. You will have to ask him, go ahead.
A real MVP here for making it through this amazingly produced and informative video. As someone who was in elementary and middle school during this era of stars, stepping back and seeing how sexist and predatory these interviewers, questions and magazines were from "journalists" and how I would just believe what they said truly blows my mind. To these poor victims of Valderrama, I hope they are now able to find peace and no longer associate with this predator. I love your videos, as a new subscriber, and have binged all of your videos in the last month or so, as your voice is so soothing and how you approach these videos is such a professional. The many lives you've lived to bring us your real life experiences to these videos is truly appreciated.
Im a millennial and although we didnt have internet at home at the time, i still really remember seeing all these stars on mag covers and those movies all coming out early 2000's. I remember just seeing so many pics of Lindsy, (and the other mega female stars of the time!), all over and all shaming the young ladies, (their under 18, so GIRLS,) for "dating" older men. I thought then it was just so odd and strange, and almost felt it being really creepy. Now that im over 30 i just really shake my head at this stuff. Not so much the partying and drinking, thats what most teens do, but just seeing their relationships with the older men. And how the GIRLS seem to always be shamed for it, and that its always their fault for being abused. You hardly ever see pics of the Rat Pack males, (and others that were in the early 2000's big stars), being trashed or half passed out or having Eating Disorders or anything of this nature.
Its also very interesting that alot of the news stories and videos that you used about a year ago on Danny Masterson is no longer there, it shows how important it is to keep talking about this horrible topic!
Also, Im finally seeing how those average looking older creepy men end up hooking all those young gorgoes girls..... Something ive always wondered about, now that im older i finally see.
Thanks again for all your hard work!
Monica Lewinsky is another harrowing example of a victim being treated like a perpetrator. Her strength is astounding.
When I was younger, I would hear rumors that Topher wasn’t friends with the rest of the cast (except for Laura). I would feel so bad for him that the other guys wouldn’t go out with him and alienated him. NOW I SEE that it was probably a good thing because all 3 of the other guys in the show were CREEPS. Topher knew what gross stuff they were doing and said “no.” Good for him
In normal, polite society bragging about sleeping with your ex girlfriends is loser creep behavior 🤮
MVP here!! This was very informative. I had no idea about some of the things Wilmer Valderrama has done but he and the entire cast of T7S always has given me ick vibes.
I was going to bed when this came on my feed. Now I’m staying up a bit. I love your videos!
That '70s Show used to be my favourite thing.. now I can't watch it.
Can we just talk about how - he was “Handy Manny” for Disneys Toddlers? I feel like that was a fever dream
Edit: and he’s in Encanto and Onward, also was in Wizards of Waverly Place. He’s just always around Disney and Disney children-“women”
he was WHAT
Thanks! This ruined my day!
Mike Tyson was given his own children’s show after literally serving time for graping someone
There’s also the fact that one of the actresses he groomed (Mandy Moore) would go on to voice Rapunzel, who is also a survivor of abuse.
Yes he was.
I watch your videos start to finish while staying home with my young baby. You and Ms. G have gotten me through so many pumping sessions and long days where I just need to hear an adult voice talking about adult things. Thank you!!
Oh my gawd. This is the deep dive I’ve neeeeeded!!
I get grossed out with celebs having huge age gaps with their significant others.
Hope this gets viral. He used the power and popularity to use and take advantage of all of this young girls and he never apologized. He is trash
This is EXTREMELY well done! had to follow because of it
Im curious about Kutchers relationship more now since I read Demi Moores book. She did not say much at all about his partying with Masterson or the Diddy affiliation. And idk if it's just because she didn't want to drag herself into or if she seriously really did not involve herself with diddy/Masterson while her and kutcher were married/dating.
Why is he not jail?! Been saying this since Lindsay! Super gross the last being Demi.
Yes!! Impeccable timing, I cannot sleep at all 😂😂
Hope you enjoy the video & get some rest!
The interview with Howard Stern??? How was that even allowed? The whole thing was just disgusting
I’ve been watching your videos today so great timing for me! I just moved and need something to listen to while unpacking. Something about all of these actors hasn’t sat right with me and your videos are confirmation. Thank you for these videos I appreciate your hard work and dedication to the truth 💕
I hope your move went well & the unpacking goes by quick! It will be nice to get settled in for the Holidays! Thank you so much for the kind words & for watching
@@coffeeandcultsthank you so much! I look forward to your upcoming videos! I hope you have a great holiday season and new year 💕
I always found it weird that no one mentioned how predatory his behavior was, dating underage girls, going younger and younger, the private information he shared about them was disgusting, hope this one lands in jail as well....
MVP
What ever you cover, I'll watch.
Whoever you cover, I'll watch.
Whenever you cover, I'll watch.
I think that just about covers it all!!
Love your channel.
I’m often surprised that no one ever seems to mention the fact that the three of them (Ashton Kutcher, Wilmer Valderrama, and Danny Masterson) are basically real life versions of their That 70’s Show characters.
Just what i needed for my stardew valley binge 🖤
Mvp 🌨️
For normal pepole, The Disney Channel and Nickelodeon are Child-TV, for Vilmar it seems to be like tinder😅
Him and most Hollyweird men
I’m excited for your video on Thorn!
Coming 2025!
@@coffeeandcults for real?!
Hey ash just want to say ur videos are my favorite and I really appreciate how in depth you get with it especially when we get editing ash clips lol thanks for all you hard work and look forward to watching this video and what to come
Just what I needed, tis 1.35am and I cannot sleep, so thank you x
Hope you enjoy the vid & get some rest!
I like and appreciate your research, your video structure, and more importantly, you want to give us all the information there is. I wish you continue to succeed and keep producing such great quality content! ❤
Just added something to the list of Things I’m thankful for this Thanksgiving:a new coffee & cults video!! Love your content!!!
Thankful for you! Appreciate the support lovely!
so was the entire cast of that 70s show just scientologists and/or sex pests?? that's almost impressive.
when I was 24 I dated a 19 year old dude for two weeks and I broke up with him because we ended up having absolutely nothing in common or substance to talk about. I had experienced so much more in life already and he had not. The maturity gap was definitely evident as well. I cannot understand for any reason what anyone with a huge age gap like 17 & 29 have in common. It had to be strictly creepy on his part is the only way it makes sense to me. And it seems to be many men unfortunately, I dealt with older men coming onto me as a teen all too often. Hell it still creeps me out when a 50 year old hits on me at 28.
I was 20 and a 34 year old was into me. Only When i was 34 did i realize how odd it was.
@@doodlebug1820what's odd
As a dude, though not one who's gone after teens haha, it is entirely sexual. Lot of women wish it was different, and a lot of men will tell you it is, but you can take this to the bank: 99.99999999% of the reason we're ever interested in you, is sexual. No, it isn't right or mature, or conducive to a long-term healthy relationship. It is still true. And your man is not the exception. If I sound a little aggressive, I'm preemptively annoyed at the people who will tell me I'm wrong and only exposing myself 😂 I've been around a while. People have their reasons for not wanting to believe it and/or lying about it. I simply have no interest in lying about what we all intuitively know anyway.
@@godwarrior3403saddest thing I've read in a long time.
You were just boring so he dumped you
The picture of Lindsay and Wilmer kissing when she’s 17 is even alarming. She’s essentially just standing there and he’s fully kissing her. Creepy.
I am very happy to have enjoyed all your back content and love how hard to work on editing and producing these for our enjoyment and information. You excel at this work. You’ve found your true passion. Miss G is an amazing boss to work for. I love her candid appearances and sleep cameos. Edit - I never watched this show but enjoy learning all about the cast of characters. I would have liked Topher the most. I always had a horrible intuition about Ashton and Danny I have skin crawl. Mila I know nothing about really or the other lass Just what I’ve learned from you. I would have thought the parent characters on the show would have had an adult calming behaviour influence on these kids but I guess not. They were probably not friendly being different generations.
Thank you so much lovely! Ms G runs a tight ship, but we love it. We wouldn't have this job without wonderful people like you supporting us so thank you!
@@coffeeandcults thank you for the incredible work in these deep dives. Outstanding both of you.MVP.
Finally! A channel that DISCUSSES what NO ONE ELSE WILL!! ❤❤❤
What you said about gen Z is precisely why I like gen Z. I've gone 57years appreciating meeting the rare person who was very informed about social issues, and it's refreshing for it to be relatively easy these days to find people who are switched on. Gen Z usually needs no explanation of social issues. They can see through the BS. I have so many authentic conversations with young people these days.
Just found your channel a couple days ago and have watched 3-4 thus far and they are all really amazing. Great writing, editing, long lost footage, etc..keep it up! Merry Christmas 🎄
Great timing! I was looking for something to watch tonight
I love when you do content regarding that 70's show, specially now that is so relevant. I watched Agatha All Along (loved it) but I was so torn when people were talking about Debra Jo and how sweet she is ans such, and meanwhile she sent a letter to Danny Masterson's judge to help him.
Your videos are so important and I'm also so excited that Ms G is gonna have her merch (bc, let's face it, the cat is always the one that own everything lol)
Girl, I look forward to EVERYTHING you post! Thank you for your hard work 🧑🎄🎄🎁
I took the fact that Demi called her song 29 meant they had dated prior to the date that he claims they dated.
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Love your videos. Thanks for all the hard work you do.
Truly make some of the best documentary videos on TH-cam. Thank you for entertaining me through the work day
Thank you for making videos
Good luck! Stay hydrated!
As a new subscriber, I thoroughly enjoy the detailed and careful recounting of these deep dives. I can't click fast enough when I get your "new episode" notification. Keep up the great work
. MVP 🎄
Thank you for continuing to cover these heavy topics. These creeps need to be exposed and shown for the horrible people they are.
First of all I love how the restaurant is called la POUBELLE meaning TRASH CAN and it’s actually where all those people go all the time 🤣 secondly I found your channel on chat gpt advice. Best advice ever! Fellow ADHD loving this systematic deep dives; MVP all the time.
Howard Stern was always such an ass****.
Another banger ..btw 36yo male here and i love the channel....MVP ❄️🌲