A good way to gauge if you’re in the right position to work with a positioning belt hook up “lineman style” (which is what these style belts are) is if you can reach the sides of the tree with your hands without leaning in or back you’re good. Something you don’t see a lot of folks talking about is when you’re in your stand where you need to be is to make sure your free fall distance will cover no more than six feet if you don’t have a decelerator style sling. The distance should be as short as possible yet still allow you to stand up or sit down so make your connection to the tree as high as possible yet be able to sit comfortably without it pulling on you. An average sized male falling six feet can generate up to 1800 lbs of force when his fall is arrested by his harness. Make sure to adjust your legs straps up (to your crotch) snug and don’t leave them loose. That much force landing on your package won’t end well. Take your harness, put it on and adjust it, Hook it up to a tree standing on the ground and gently lower your body weight into it. When you stand back up, you’ll see where you need to make adjustments. Great video! Keep up the good work.
Just watched this video, great info, My question is what type of rope is the main and the prusik knot made of? Thanks, gonna try and make a lineman's rope
I'm not really sure what exact material it is? I would guess a nylon/polyester blend? It is really tightly woven which adds to it's rigidity. That's going to be a feature you'll want for manipulating up and down trees. Thanks for watch!
Great video! Best one i've seen with hanging treestands. Only question I had was at the end did you want to hang the stand below your steps, so you can step down into it, and above your lineman correct? Also did you buy an extra carabiner for that muddy lineman? I am looking for a quality lineman that looked way nicer than the ones that come with stand and way more reliable, do you suggest that muddy lineman?
Thanks. Yes. It is best to hang your stand so you're stepping"down" on to the platform. It is much safer than pulling yourself up. I believe the muddy harness came with several carabiniers? The harness in the video was a spider, which in my opinion, is much less cumbersome. But, it did not come with a lineman's harness. Hunters Safety System has a harness coming out that is strictly for hanging stands. It prevents contamination of your hunting harness and also has several large pockets.
I actually purchase a single stick or combine several sets. I have found using 4 will get me close to 20'. But, I like to space them quite a bit. I would say, if you're trying to get over 20' comfortably 5 sticks would work. Thanks for watching!
Awesome video! You answered a lot of my questions in this video. Except what is the prusik knot for on the linemans belt? You never used it or did anything with it
+Bluegill20 The prusik knot is used to adjust the length of the belt. Your connection points are on a fixed knot a prusik. It allows for adjustability. Thanks
So I just started climbing. What I practiced is using the tree strap every time I go up a section. I climb then readjust the strap upward. I do this until I get to the desired height. I dont know if I am doing it to cautiously but it takes a great deal of time to do it that way. But with the linemans belt I was thinking it would be faster. What do you think?
+Shawn Bartley It could be quicker. I was thinking you could essentially I corporate it in with your top section. Meaning, grasping both your climber and belt in one. That way, your belt could presumably move I. sync with your climber cable. Just a thought!
Yes you can, but don’t rely on it to stop a fall. . A better hook up in case your climber fails-they do (a friend of mine took a nasty fall when his manufactured climber (stand up sit down style) broke while hunting by himself-back before safety harnesses were thought about) is to use a choker style (around the tree) sling attached to the back loop on your harness that you move up the tree as you climb. A “lineman’s style” safety around the tree at your waist will not stop a free fall and is deemed a positioning belt or device, not fall protection. I’ve been a lineman for 31 years and a deer hunter longer than that. We don’t use free safeties anymore as free climbing has been outlawed as of 2017 by ansi/osha. We have to use 100% fall protection anytime we are climbing (Bucksqueeze, Pole Lariat DBI Sala, etc). Great job on the video!
Trying to buy one off amazon. I search it and nothing comes up for liemans belt. Just tree strap and climbing strap. Would either work? or where do I prchase one
Those boots you are wearing are great boots
A good way to gauge if you’re in the right position to work with a positioning belt hook up “lineman style” (which is what these style belts are) is if you can reach the sides of the tree with your hands without leaning in or back you’re good. Something you don’t see a lot of folks talking about is when you’re in your stand where you need to be is to make sure your free fall distance will cover no more than six feet if you don’t have a decelerator style sling. The distance should be as short as possible yet still allow you to stand up or sit down so make your connection to the tree as high as possible yet be able to sit comfortably without it pulling on you. An average sized male falling six feet can generate up to 1800 lbs of force when his fall is arrested by his harness. Make sure to adjust your legs straps up (to your crotch) snug and don’t leave them loose. That much force landing on your package won’t end well. Take your harness, put it on and adjust it, Hook it up to a tree standing on the ground and gently lower your body weight into it. When you stand back up, you’ll see where you need to make adjustments. Great video! Keep up the good work.
Thank you Jay very helpful!
Awesome video! Thanks for the info.
Thanks Buddy!
THANKS FOR SHARING. CAN YOU USE THAT ON A CLIMBER AROUND THE TREE??
Ya should be using a life line too.Be safe bro.They are only about 30 bucks on amazon.Good luck on the hunt.
Just watched this video, great info, My question is what type of rope is the main and the prusik knot made of? Thanks, gonna try and make a lineman's rope
I'm not really sure what exact material it is? I would guess a nylon/polyester blend? It is really tightly woven which adds to it's rigidity. That's going to be a feature you'll want for manipulating up and down trees.
Thanks for watch!
Great video! Best one i've seen with hanging treestands. Only question I had was at the end did you want to hang the stand below your steps, so you can step down into it, and above your lineman correct? Also did you buy an extra carabiner for that muddy lineman? I am looking for a quality lineman that looked way nicer than the ones that come with stand and way more reliable, do you suggest that muddy lineman?
Thanks. Yes. It is best to hang your stand so you're stepping"down" on to the platform. It is much safer than pulling yourself up. I believe the muddy harness came with several carabiniers? The harness in the video was a spider, which in my opinion, is much less cumbersome. But, it did not come with a lineman's harness. Hunters Safety System has a harness coming out that is strictly for hanging stands. It prevents contamination of your hunting harness and also has several large pockets.
thank you. very helpful.
Great video, thanks for the tips! Are you able to get up to 20-25' with the 3 hawk helium sticks that come in a set?
I actually purchase a single stick or combine several sets. I have found using 4 will get me close to 20'. But, I like to space them quite a bit. I would say, if you're trying to get over 20' comfortably 5 sticks would work. Thanks for watching!
Awesome video! You answered a lot of my questions in this video. Except what is the prusik knot for on the linemans belt? You never used it or did anything with it
+Bluegill20 The prusik knot is used to adjust the length of the belt. Your connection points are on a fixed knot a prusik. It allows for adjustability. Thanks
Great vid!
My dad is a lineman so setting up tree stands is much easier when we already have the gear
GREAT VIDEO!! CAN YOU USE THE LINEMANS BELT WITH A TREE CLIMBER? AND THEN ONCE AT THE APPROPRIATE HEIGHT USE THE TREE BELT?
I do not see why not. It may add a few extra minutes of climbing. But, it would be worth it not to fall backwards from a climber!
Thanks for watching!
So I just started climbing. What I practiced is using the tree strap every time I go up a section. I climb then readjust the strap upward. I do this until I get to the desired height. I dont know if I am doing it to cautiously but it takes a great deal of time to do it that way. But with the linemans belt I was thinking it would be faster.
What do you think?
+Shawn Bartley
It could be quicker. I was thinking you could essentially I corporate it in with your top section. Meaning, grasping both your climber and belt in one. That way, your belt could presumably move I. sync with your climber cable. Just a thought!
Thanks. Will try it. The tree strap moving every time I climb up is time consuming but SAFE. LOL!
Yes you can, but don’t rely on it to stop a fall. . A better hook up in case your climber fails-they do (a friend of mine took a nasty fall when his manufactured climber (stand up sit down style) broke while hunting by himself-back before safety harnesses were thought about) is to use a choker style (around the tree) sling attached to the back loop on your harness that you move up the tree as you climb. A “lineman’s style” safety around the tree at your waist will not stop a free fall and is deemed a positioning belt or device, not fall protection. I’ve been a lineman for 31 years and a deer hunter longer than that. We don’t use free safeties anymore as free climbing has been outlawed as of 2017 by ansi/osha. We have to use 100% fall protection anytime we are climbing (Bucksqueeze, Pole Lariat DBI Sala, etc). Great job on the video!
Trying to buy one off amazon. I search it and nothing comes up for liemans belt. Just tree strap and climbing strap. Would either work? or where do I prchase one
The harness I originally had was a Muddy. It came with the lineman's rope. I believe I saw some, for sale individually, at Rural King.
What Harness you like better Muddy or Spider?
I prefer the spider for hunting, mostly for the ease of putting it on/off. I still use my Muddy strictly for hanging.
great video. keep it up.
Thank you. I appreciate it!
would anyone recommend a linemans belt for a climber stand?