Photon Trading Honest Review | Best SMC Community?
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- Photon trading honest review.
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00:00 Intro
01:02 How I started
02:33 Content
05:26 Mentorship
07:39 Community
08:14 Trading Style
09:51 The problem with Photon Trading
11:21 Who is Photon Trading for?
12:14 Outro
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Wow my man, thank you so much for your honest and unsponsored review. We are truly humbled!
We agree that the strategy is not the easiest to pick up as a raw beginner or for those who cannot initially day trade lower timeframes (whether that be due to their job or starting skillset).
So we are currently working on a full refresh of the Trading Plan module to provide a progression of trade plans that start off with a simplified Swing strategy. This will allow you to trade around a job, as well as develop the higher timeframe knowledge that is first required to successfully progress to lower timeframe entries (if you wish to do so).
I'm confident this will continue to improve the learning curve and success rate of our members.
Massive thanks again Kimmel and hit me up for some TH-cam mentoring ;)
Photon, can you give us an idea of when this content on swing trading may be available? This will be super useful for those on their journey to full time trading.
so it's more systematic rule based? because I have seeking that in smart money. Also, I see a 3 month and a yearly plan...do you think the 3 month is enough in your opinion?
@@mr.braham3905 bro just take it if u have money
it is really aswome ,highly mechanichal and the mentor matt is super super super fantastic
@@yourlifesucksandiknowit it's not a copy template,...if you dont agree with the 40 pip retrace then alter it yourself...tailor the tradingplan...Photon is NOT a copy/paste style of trading,..you learn and adapt... next you're going to ask them to change their name because you think it should have been called Positron...pfffff
Photon mentorship price will be going up by FRIDay 17/02/2023,
And it difficult to pay through card from my country(Nigeria) ,the max u could transfer Internationally is $20
Pls help me reach out to him
I tried his mail and all other platforms to get him to help me with other means paying🙏
Thx for the video! I’ve been hesitant about joining because there aren’t many reviews about photon but now I’m more convinced
I think you will enjoy
Wish id found out about them sooner as ive been in phantom, currently in hustle but due to having adhd the way things are explained to me is a massive thing and it sounds like thats what makes photon stand out from the others
It’s most probably is
Agree completely bro, I was with phantom thought the amount of content and organisation was overwhelming. Saw Matts videos on TH-cam and signed up. Superb course and community
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Bro pls share with me bro!! I would really appreciate ❤️Bro pls I’ve got other SMC course too !! I can share with you bro !!
I think the hardest module is the market strucure and utilising multi timeframe analysis. Matt makes it easy to understand but seeing it for yourself is hard and needs slot of practise. I have only been wit photon for a few weeks but definitely think once u master it, you will have no limits. Anyone here funded with photon yet ?
He is a great teacher and he has mechanized the strategy in a way that you always know what you are looking for. I've tried learning SMC on other sites and it never really made sense to me until now.
I believe so too
Please send me the link
Thanks alot for the review of the community that i want to join this month
Nicely timed then!!
I was with Phantom but left when Albie left the group. It was my first SMC mentorship group so i genuinely thought it was the best. But I watched a couple of photon's videos, I thought this guy is so much better and clear in his teachings. I am still struggling with SMC and would definitely join Photon hopefully by the end of the month. I only request him to make more public public videos.
He's focusing on the community content from what Matt answered in one of the comments
Bro wassup pls can you help me with photon course ? I got other SMC course too !! Maybe we share !!! Lmk bro❤️🎯
@@princewilludochukwu537 lolz, Mumu Boy
@@princewilludochukwu537 😀😀😀
@@Ernest-qp1nu 😀😀😀😀 My Naija guy, no time to waste time
I am just a hobby/part time trader. I have seen their vids. If I ever do this full time then I will join their community. Great content from Matt.
Thank you for sharing. Could you recommend top three courses on smart money concept?
Thanks bro you convinced me to try and join photon this year.
You will enjoy it!
Can you also review the Diamant capital? the only SMC I knew that combine the concept with macro economic or fundamental analysis.
Question. Which system would be for beginners?
Does anyone know which one is more affective photon or vertex (excluded bootcamp and only focusing on videos)
Can you do a review of Hustle Trading and K4FX? :) Also wanted to know what equipment are you using for the video?
much awaited thanks brother
Nice!!
Photons course, not only teaches how to trade but also to have the right mindset to make money, how to handle expectations, how to handle money, and psychology and many more. I have watched many courses like traqfx and mentfx, but what i have noticed is photons teaching skill and planning he had taken to make his clients feel 100% satisfied
100%, it’s very very complete with a lot of different topics
@@KimmelTrading does photon community give one on one when you purchase the course? If so, how frequently?
Does the stuff they teach apply to indices also?
Thanks for reviewing these. I was gonna join phantom but they doubled the price. I only really like blackwatch who is one of there coaches but considering he’s not the main guy I might go with photon. I don’t like the idea of a bunch of different coaches. Thanks again for the review.
Yeah, that makes sense. Here you know that all the coaches (2) are really good, and Matt too
@@KimmelTrading Is their community still around 300 members, as you mentioned? Or is it getting over-saturated? Thinking of joining only if there is enough support to answer questions etc... Keep up the great content Rafa
His teaching style is awesome.
SMC isn,t just taking entries on 1m if your full time you can just end your analysis on 15m or even the 4hr but we use multiple timeframes to increse the probabilty and RR but SMC is a strategy that uses S&D (refined s&D with market strucutre or liq ) Market Structure liquidity
I know, I'm just saying that most people go for the minute
phantom is good but photon just has that extra edge and I like both.
Rafael
I 100000% agree
I joined phantom and moved to Photon and it completely changed the game. The explanation , the effort Matt has put is outstanding. And if you talk about discord way more Organise than phantom and you always get reply.
10/10
Yup, 100%. We have to give credit where credit is due
how are you doing now bro? I'm interested
You are the best.
Many thanks for the orientation I will join soon.
hi,how was it ?
You mentioned they show the trades that they take.
My question is,
Do they share the MT4 screenshots right after they just placed the trades (while still running) OR only after they've closed the trades/hit tp,sl?
Not being rude bro just wanna make sure they're legit because I've seen everything. From fake gurus who are super good at photoshop to those who use their software engineering skills to manipulate backend stuff or even creat something of their own
They post their trades while they are running, close to hitting TP. I 100% trust them because I know one of the coaches, and he has shown me proof time over time
@@KimmelTrading Cool..thanks for clearing my doubts
@@danxav5737 bro where you from? India?
a much needed one! I was kinda hesitant to join because there were some bad reviews like how the instructor refused to show his trade record etc.
Which educator actually shows a trade record though?
They show it every day hahaha
@@KimmelTrading wow.... Impressive. I must join, that is all I need to be committed. I have been on ICT but I need a simplified learning with result to show
What guy is doing is great ,I studied S&D and SMC swing trading and his structure videos helped my day trading a lot entering on M1 with tight SL and big lot has transformed my trading ... as far as his course is concerned personally I'm at the stage of my journey where I can't take in anymore content but he's a G
Thanks for this mann
does the photon trading strategy work with crypto?
Nice review man. Very helpful 👍
And I agree about the Phantom course. It's good content but the videos can be painfully boring to watch at times.
Thank you!!
Photon knows how to teach and Is clear explanation then phantom.
Have to agree
But they are both legends
@@spectral.1441 I agree
Helpful video, do you think the same trading concepts would apply to someone wanting to trade crypto as well?
Never tried it
Photon is the best❤️ clearest smc concept♥️
Photon trading
The best trading channel I came across after 4yrs into the market
He's a great teacher
100%
PHOTON IS THE BEST changed mine and maaaany other's lives thanks Matt i love youuuuuuu
💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿
@@KimmelTrading and thank you for your nice and decent review
How your trading go?
can you write detailed review of ict
any discount for photon
Can you review WWA trading and genius trading master class?
Those who are watching comments
Photons course is completely organized and he had put lot of
Efforts.
YOU WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED
100%
Wassup bro
Can you share me the photon course pls ? I really wannna learn trading bad ain’t gat funds !!
@@princewilludochukwu537 oga stop disgracing yourself on here.. Pay for mentorship or suck it up
@@princewilludochukwu537 Hey, did you find the course? I need it too.
@@manosl6467 u want it?
may i ask you. at the end of day, it's true smc offer high rr & win rate. or it's just not real and win rate not high as some courses claims?
You’ll like next video
@@KimmelTrading yes please
Matt changed my entire trading perspective, he is the reason for my achievements ❤ thank you once again (photon trading ) the best TH-cam channel for traders ❤❤❤
Please answer me. Is the photon trading strategy available for trading the entire session or for just a few hours per session?
Photon trading focuses on 3 sessions only, Frankfurt, London and NewYork but mainly Pre-London and the London session
i wish this stuff was up and running back in 2013 when i blew my account! Time to setup!
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Hello bro @Kimmel Trading does forex trading can be used in crypto?
i'm a total newbie actually ang planning to enroll in photon
Forex is Forex, crypto is crypto. But you can trade crypto. Don’t know if Photon is the way to go if you want to trade crypto
Hey. I have a question. I have been trading for 1 year so i'm not a total beginner, but i don't know anything about SMC. If i'm willing to put like 6-8hours a day on photon course how much time do you think is reasonable to understand this strategy? Thanks
You'll have a good understanding of the strategy fairly quickly if you put the work in as you are saying. You could be looking at the market in a totally different manner after 3 months
@@KimmelTrading Great Thanks. Lot of work to do but i really want to learn this type of trading, and i follow you and see you review and decide to start on!👍
How's your journey so far going ? Do Update us 😄
It's not really about how long, it's about how well you can understand the concepts and apply them
I’d like to know wich course should i take, I’m stuck between phantom and photon , I’m in the markets for 2 yeas and im looking for a profitable strategy
Thanks, Kimmel.
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I'm just curious to know does matt show you his statement ? "I know statement is personal but I'm just curious :) "
Not the statement, but he shows his trades every single day, MT4 included if any trades were taken
I am In LOVE with photon ♥
Hahaha, nice!
Any update with photon? What has it done to your trading? You profitable? Are you funded etc?
I joined photon sometime ago, just one month membership, I was blown away. The course is a game changer for me, just one month membership, I got all I've been looking for over the years
That’s amazing feedback tbh!
Bro pls
Help a brother !! Can you pls share me the photon course pls!! I’m an aspiring trader like you pls
@@princewilludochukwu537 your godsend saviour is here!!! Send me your email my brother
now there is no monthly membership available, quarterly at least. at 249 Gbp
@@monenoz7909 They do that to avoid it getting saturated
Only thing left for you to check out and study is ICT's strategy.
I myself have been watching some of his TH-cam videos. Only problem is ICT no longer has open mentorship. Learning two diff strategies and trying to copy others has confused me. It’s also prolonged my career. I got into Trading 1.5 years ago. Had I learned about Photon then, I probably would’ve been a funded trader by now. So I will be joining Photon for month and just follow that. I do want to add one thing from ICT.
Hey dude, I've been studying ICT for a while and I've hit the wall a bit piecing it all together, I've been looking at community's to join like photon (looks great) but just a tad expensive for me each month, do you have any suggestions that teach SMC and are worth looking at? Thanks 😊
Are the coaches better than blackwatch so far in my SMC journey his the best and he explains really good and his the only reason am in phantom really so for those people who took both courses please please help
Blackwatch is an amazing coach, couldn’t tell you a comparison because I don’t know blackwatch personally. But I agree that he is one of the best coaches
I always take pictures of my trades. I analyse my statistics. My key indicator of success is this: My average win is 3x higher than my highest loss
That's great depending on your SR
Photon is the last course you will ever need in your trading journey trust me ❤️
Maybe maybe :)
Agreed
I agree. It’s very comprehensive, but I think one must master it completely before going out on one’s on. I agree with Kimmel’s assessment regarding already having discipline and have practice with this strategy. Should backtest it until you can execute in your sleep. Contradictory to this statement, I wish I had it as a beginner as I just wanted a clear strategy that I was shown how to execute reliably. I just needed guidance and that’s what photon is, even regarding psychology.
Really???? Are you sureeeee????
@@roncl8623 Yes, I’m profitable off of his course alone. If you put in the work, I guarantee it.
Thanks Kimmel
Are the strategies taught in photon fully backtested and profitable? I just want an already working system. It’ll be difficult to backtest the 1 min chart you know. Do they have a back tested data spreadsheet or something
Yes, they are
And no, you have to do the work yourself
No shortcuts buddy. You have to backtest to even gain confidence in trading
Thank you for the insightful video and honest review 👊👌
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Honest n good review 👍
Thank you!
i was trading for 2 years but #photon open my eyes when i copy the way he mark the market structure and i see light in my career
hey, are you funded?
@@bouzbita7756 i lost the ACC
Any specific reasons why u lost it??
@@bouzbita7756 i traded with emotions, when i lost the 1st trade, i put more thinking the market will reverse from there and i even increased my lot size in wish of making it all back then i hit the daily drawdown
Thanks man . I wish u the best
How many mentors do we get in photon to answer our questions ??
3, plus the whole community?
Best course course period
Can’t really disagree.
@@KimmelTrading yes I've brought bout 6 courses in 2 years... Photon is the best kept secret in forex
@@KimmelTrading What about Ment-fx? some swear he's the goat...fact is there are so many SMC traders now, I could reel off a loooooong list of them and it wouldn't be complete. I get the sense everyone is copying each other, mostly these concepts have devolved from ICT.
@@hollywood1315 bro pls can you help me with the photon course pls bro!! I don’t really have enough to afford photon course as I have purchased some other SMC course!! I can share with you also brother ❤️🤲
Where are you from...? the way that you sad "tomas" tells me you´re Portuguese... is it true?
Nice review of the photon course... i´m really interested to join
Yes hahaha, I'm portuguese
Do they show their trading history stats?
They show their trades on a day to day basis.
@@rl2596 Both
Is it possible to implement Photon's strategy to BTC trading?
Never tried it
is the strategy the same in phantom than photon, because they are so similar, who copy whom ?
Photon is a student from phantom
@@natefxtrades its curiuous Phantom just released new content and Photon new entry types.
so it's more systematic rule based? because I have seeking that in smart money. Also, I see a 3 month and a yearly plan...do you think the 3 month is enough in your opinion?
Yes it's more of a rule based system. Matt had definitely changed the way I see the markets in a good way.
His teaching has also taught me many of different things, like how to create a plan and stick too it, choosing the right timeframes, i no longer use the H1 anymore and actually only use 4 timeframes now. Matt is changing the game for me. Love him.
ict or photon which is better, does photon cover all that is in ict
Never tried ICT
They all copied ICT and simplified it. I CT is boring and long
@@kingdomfrontiers1013 i argree with that.
Im gld to see this review but the price keeps me out.... Its very expensive and bigginer traders probably wont be able to sustain a monthly payment. Im very curoius about the course but the price man.... just to high. How can you convince me its cheap?
Value is worth paying for . Determine how much you want this trading as a career vs what you currently doing soonest your vision is clear you'll realise the price is cheap for the progression curve you'll have vs time spent on other mediocrity out there. I'd take this course even if it was £200 a month . This will change your life now value that.
I wont try to convince you. Because I know where you are coming from. I believe that it is fairly price, mostly because I know how much work goes behind the scenes. It also filters out people that don’t want to pay that kind of money, and since you pay more, you give it more value too. All the rest is personal opinion. What is expensive for me might be cheap for you, and vice versa, I consider it like buying knowledge. Always good to have more knowledge
don´t have a photon discount code???????
I’m not affiliated with them, unfortunately hahaha. I wouldn’t mind
Photon trading is the best. I’ve improved alot
Right. Dude is changing my life.
Please review FractalMarkets
Do Vertex Investing review
would you say they focus more on London?
I thought vertex made you profitable, why you under every review video? 😂
@@gucci9381 I've been in several communities. The entry rules I learned from vertex are ingrained in my trading. I do like checking out different discords, though. I also like helping out his videos stats by asking questions that I think others may want to know.
@@gucci9381 tbf, I'm at BE on my evaluation. trading discipline is more(equal?) important than the strategy
Yeah, I would say they mostly focus on London Session
I feel you bro, and one needs an edge regardless. But as you said discipline is key.
photon end of course you need see
Photon is the best ever ❤
my issue with photon is that I have never seen Matt, the founder, take live trades. his TH-cam is full of videos teaching trading concepts but none of the videos is him and his trading platform, with him actually taking trades.
How am I supposed to trust him with teaching me if he never displays his aptitudes on a live account?
The best criticism ever and I'm very impressed with your break down. Photon is special a great site to be at I just started following them end of last month but damn it has changed everything I thought I new about trading.
Matt is an animal 🎉 in this game he changed my mindset like a therapist. Photon is Trading to be honest and nothing else you need besides them . Honestly truth and I'll definitely be part of them one day and thank you to the team of Photon for the contribution to the people like us who can't afford to join currently but damn it feels like I'm part of it already.
MV7 in the house🎙
I’m very impressed with the quality over time
No matter what ...you have aced the ad setup after every main highlighter 😂😂
Had to do it 😂
The guy have been so inactive on youtube & insta, I thought they were not operating anymore.
Will learn with them maybe
We are busy focused on trading the markets and looking after our members rather than being social media marketers.
That said, we post analysis and trade recaps in our free telegram almost daily :)
Their focus is right hahaha, community 1st
@@PhotonTrading Okay,Thanks guys....Will sign up🙏!!
I thought the guy died tbh i was really worried
@@PhotonTrading thanks matt for your efforts,, please back again Telegram recaps its very useful for beginners and free
How much does it cost to be in the community?
249 $
I have studied a lot of SMC courses but Photon was way better than other bullshits roaming over net.
Nice feedback!
Is photon and phantom the same
No, photon is much better in my opinion…
Can you do ICT?
@@WazzzUpFolks im using phantom’s strategy right now and it’s pretty good, I was just wondering how great his strategy is because of all the buzz
@@WazzzUpFolks I’ll probably look into it next year
Photon is the fcking best ....!
🤘
Yeah I think forex is barely popular in the USA because you have to trade in the middle of the night to get London and NY open. Literally midnight and 4am start times! Those times work for me but it's pretty rare that's just how I sleep. I could never make a normal job work because I can't sleep at night! Haha so I'm very into learning forex now that I've discovered it
Yeah, there are time zones that are very very challenging
Are you still in Phantom community?
Photon only for now
I’m having issues trying to sign up
My cards are declining and I don’t have PayPal
Would be great if you add a skrill or Bitcoin payment method thank you sir
contact matt
@@bahadrakmn457 he already helped me sigh up few hours ago, thank you ago
Solved I guess :)
@@KimmelTrading yeah he mailed me a crypto payment option
I wasn’t disappointed
Respect for you! but there is no need to tell about his expertise really its amazing there is no compraision with PHONTON Trading!!!
they get insanely greedy, removed the monthly subsription and jacked up the prices a lot.
More demand, they want to reduce it, so they have to increase prices
Fix a discount for us man
are you not promoting photon here or you been honest here
I'm not making anything from this video...even if I was, doesn't matter
thanks for your review, i would like to know if does it work on crypto ?
Never tried SMC on crypto. Photon coaches and Matt don’t use it on crypto
Hey, I'm wondering the same but I see guys who trade SMC with crypto on twitter, from what I have understood just trade the the top 50 coins in market cap, SMC doesn't apply as good to small altcoins, that's all.
Bro is smc profitable,,,
Yes
@@KimmelTrading from where should i start any course for recommend to beginner please reply 🙏
Hi Kimmel, would you still recommend Photon trading in 2023?
Lol I trade the 5m/15m smc
You are not one of many hahaha. I’m not bashing on it, I think that you might become consistent even quicker than others hahaha. Just said that most people want to trade 1m and even the seconds
Photon took the phantom trading course content, copied it exactly then put it on TH-cam. He may be good at making videos, but the fact is everything that he teaches is from Phantom.
Not really my opinion, but to each their own.
@@KimmelTrading It can't be an opinion, it is literally exactly copied, I will send a link, it might get deleted by yt but if you have taken Phantom course and watched Photon youtube videos I'm unsure how you can't see things that are exactly copied.
But he did better job to explain. It feels that phantom core course suck if you are new to the concept. There are things that are game changing which the don't have video on their website. Such as equilibrium premium and discount, flip, choch.
Their recaps are top shelf staff thougg
@@AW-wc7zd phantom has a hundred videos in their course, they aren't well-organized and half are terrible A/V quality. Besides that, every smc course is similar.
Never been in phantom so I can't confirm, but everything these days can be looked at as a "copy" or "iteration" of another strategy. It's not like phantom invented SMC. In the end the most important thing in a course is how well it teaches you to trade and Photon does that very well.
Too hype too many to say, but it is also a generic trading community and trading course/workshop nothing special, and expensive too.