I’m a rider myself, and if I ever have anything in common or be associated in any way with the type of content creator riders that wear ruroc helmets, I’ll just stop being a rider
If you do really want a Gortex top and bottom and don’t want to break the bank, go to your local military surplus store and look for their waterproof pants/jackets. You’ll spend a fraction of the price and it’s all made to be thrown on over whatever you’re already wearing, including boots. Hope this helps.
Regardless of the hype, I will continue to wear a Carbon Fiber Helmet and Airbag on street after it saved my life. Under normal circumstances, sure street speeds won't need it...but that doesn't account for what OTHERS do around us. I got rear ended on my Motorcycle on my way to work early in the morning 2 months ago by a White SUV and got sent sliding over 100feet into a ditch. It was the longest 8 or so seconds of my life, but when they got me into the Hospital, I was shocked to see my Carbon Fiber Helmet (Scorpion R1) barely damaged and my airbag backpack (HElite) destroyed. I vividly remembering making unbroken eye contact with the pavement as I slid for a while, so they definitely did their job. The Emergency Room told me they'd seen Motorcyclists die from less and were shocked to hear I actually survived such a devastating rear end collision on a motorcycle and only have a broken shoulder to show for it. They X-rayed me, CT Scanned me, and even sent me for an MRI, but my knees, elbows, spine and brain were all fine. They were in disbelief that I was even hit by a car, It was the first time they ever heard of a "Motorcycle airbag system". One surgery later, the Surgeon was impressed how well it performed, the nurse asked for pictures of my backpack since she wanted to buy one for her son, who just recently started riding. I would actually not be here without modern gear, that or I would've sustained permanent life changing paralysis and other major injuries. However, thanks to the advancements in Motorcycle Gear, I will be fully recovered in a few months and I hope to return to the open road soon!
The point was that wearing rain gear when it’s not raining isn’t comfortable. You’re better off with season appropriate dry gear and a more basic rain suit you put on when it’s raining and you tuck away when it’s not.
Yeah that’s not exactly true depending on where in Texas you are. Anywhere on the golf coast is real hot and also real humid six months a year. The worst case scenario for wearing rain gear around all the time “just in case”
Both my carbon helmets weigh very little. I weld for a living so I have to wear a helmet 8 hours a day at work. Hurts with my neck if helmets are too heavy. I have a full face for the cold and a dirt helmet for the summer. FXR dirt helmet is insanely light. Those couple pounds matter to some of us
All I'm gonna say is the ruroc diablo helmet saved my life as I crashed at 60mph smacking my helmet and doing 5 or 6 barrel rolls across the highway, I made a Facebook post on the ruroc Facebook page and they sent me a brand new helmet for free! I'd probably be dead or in a coma if I didn't have a helmet on during that wreck. Do ur own research tho but that was my experience with ruroc
On a trip in Canada in September the Temps changed from 25C and sunny to 1C and rain. Hard rain. I did 2 consecutive 700 km days In 1 degree and rain. My Klim riding suit kept me warm and dry. On hot days I open all the vents and the air flows through like I'm not wearing anything. If you're actually doing some miles you are going to ride through scattered showers. Not having to stop to put on rain gear is a big plus. And let's not forget the magic foam padding in all the critical areas that stays soft and squishy until it takes an impact and the kevlar panels in case of a slide. The colours match my bike perfectly as well. Love My Klim gear. Worth every penny
I was going post almost exactly the same response. FYI Yammie, there are actually some ADV riders that do multiple 1000km days (620 miles so you don't need to do the math) back to back and don't stop for weather. Putting on and taking off a garbage bag rain suits sucks when it rains intermittently all day. I ride in northern Quebec in areas where I need to carry a satellite communicator. Help could be a long way off in the event of a crash so like the original poster, I love my Klim Badlands for the top spec safety and don't regret paying for it.
I got chirped by the gear girl at a dealer and after this video on top was second guessing my impending purchase of a Gore-Tex jacket, but exactly as you say-I couple trips between BC, AB, and SK this summer definitely had me wanting an all-in-one solution that I didn't have to worry about packing or stopping to put on/off (and even if there's reduced breathability in a jacket with vs without Gore-Tex, it's miles better than being stuck in a rainsuit once you're in the sun-and as you said: pop some zippers and you're even better off.)
What you said about the tether not pulling is a very good reason to consider a wireless system but having to pay a subscription fee for your life saving equipment will ALWAYS be a scam.
@@gumpyoldbugger6944 Yup. Get your wallet stolen, cancel your cards, and get your airbag system shut off as you crash your bike on the way home. Rough day.
@@gumpyoldbugger6944 There's an airbag made by Klim that has a very discounted upfront cost, but requires a subscription. Most airbags are pay once, ride forever. Though you do have to maintain them by keeping them charged or clipping in every time you ride. Electronic airbags also have to be factory serviced after a crash, vs. tethered airbags which can be serviced by the end user and typically use cheaper gas mixes.
Only thing i disagree with is specifically the HUD with the Ray-Bans or BMW ConnectedRide sunglasses, as they can both be used outside of just motorcycles. Aside from that, agreed on all fronts
I was with him all the way up to HUDs. Honestly, it felt a little "old man yells at cloud" 😅 surprising he can't see the safety benefits of only moving your eyes and being able to stay aware of directional info, calls & media, even rear view. I think it's inarguable your reaction time would be quicker than lifting/turning your head 🤷🏿♂️
So I work for a race team sponsored by Ruroc and our rider went down twice this season both times in a Ruroc. Still to his head in one piece undamaged. Take that for what you will but its enough for me as the mechanic to wear a ruroc in my personal life.
yeah, they were kind shitty and sketchy, but the new ones are really comfortable and look sick. They came in strong and people forget that the fisrt couple of itterations of new product will have flaws. i have the 3.0 and 4.0 and both still feel great. they are a bit expensive but it looks like they only say that with ruroc and not other brands?
One thing on klim, as I work in the industry and put my hands on many products every day, is the way klim treats customers. Klim has a 5 year garuntee on most products, to where if you end up using it in an accident and have a police report, they will repair or replace it. Yes, they may be priced higher, but they also do have some durable materials that hold up really well in accidents compared to revit,dainese, or alpinestars textile gear with similar ratings
Accidental deployment of tethered vests is low because there’s a measure of force required to deploy. But that leads to your other criticism that there are crash scenarios where it won’t deploy when you need it
There are also scenarios where electronuc vests don't always deploy, like, funny enough, some lowsides. For example, I've seen several reports of Alpinestars TA vests not deploying during lowsides. A-stars has been updating its algorithm to address issues like that but they are not foolproof by any means. Electronic vests also seem to still be more likely to falsely deploy. Check the fine print on the e-vests. One major maker of the electronics for several brand-name vests seems to say that users should only expect the vest to deploy in ~75% of crashes. Not foolproof at all. The good news is that all airbag vests, no matter the type, are worth having if you can afford one. And both have trade-offs. E-vests should deploy faster but are subject to potentially more failure ponts--plus most are still not user serviceable and are expensive to maintain. Tethered vests won't deploy as quickly and, theoretically, in as many situations, but are arguably more reliable for the big crashes (if set up properly). And despite what YN claims, tethered vests are actually quite difficult to falsely deploy. He really hasn't done his homework here.
@@ApexRadius Without extra sensors on the bike, usually attached to the forks, most electronic vests won't deploy when in a stationary accident e.g. rear ending at a junction. The Helite tethered vests are also one of the cheapest to recharge with air, and can be reused immediately (although recommended that they are inspected after an accident) if you have the allen key and a spare compressed air canister which are like $35. I got the Helite Vented airbag jacket which can be used year round since it has a waterproof/windproof liner; £685/$939 to get two bits of kit in one. It does get a little warm around 30 Celcius but in the UK it generally doesn't get warmer than that often. Having my personal safety dependant on a subscription for the vest to function is a big disincentive for me, what is the long term support like and what if the manufacturer decides to change it's pricing. If they made some sort of hybrid system that was both physically tethered, and used some other way of determining the bikes speed, e.g. wheel sensor, for electronic deployment, which didn't require a subscription and was easy to service, I would be up for one.
Correct, electronic vests have their issues as well. A lot of these vests rely for instance on gps. No gps signal means no deployment. Also the vests get primed after traveling a certain amount of distance or time. Meaning you jump on your bike, drive off, and instantly crash equals no deployment. In the end, riding with an airbag vest is good. Tethered or electronic. Both have their pro and cons.
@@Bordpie Yes, for sure. The Helite e-Turtle requires the optional fork sensor ($158 US) to detect very slow speed or stationary crashes, like rear-enders. It's also supposed to improve overall crash detection. Some of the other e-airbags will only deploy at something like 10-15 mph. The manufacturers are always improving the electronic systems--I seem to recall that A-stars has now included stationary crashes in its algorithm, but I might be mistaken--but they still have limitations. I've seen a lot of reports for years that various brand electronic systems didn't deploy during some lowsides, including the aforementioned A-stars TA, and even some lowsides that included tumbling. A tethered system would probably fair better with tumbling following a lowside. (But I'm personally a little less concerned with lowsides than the bigger crashes.) Creating an electronic system for street riding is more difficult than for racing/track applications. It has to account for more factors and nuance than in the more predictable and controlled track environment. For instance, you're not likely to smash into a pothole on a race track, so the system doesn't have to figure out if that kind of impact is a crash or not. And stationary rear-enders are really unlikely on track, so it doesn't really have to account for them. Another factor: Many electronic systems must be worn under gear (like the AS TA-5), which means that you might have to buy new (bigger) outer gear that allows enough room for deployment. Tethered vests/harnesses are usually worn over a jacket or suit and might even be a little more comfortable in hotter conditions. I have the latest Hit-Air (made in Japan) tethered harness that's the same concept as the Helite tethered vests. I think they're the oldest manufacturer of moto airbags and they're well made. They also make the Spidi-branded airbag. I chose it over the Helite simply because it's a more open design that flows a bit more air and it's easier to wear over a suit or jacket with a race hump. I would be happy to have an electronic one, too, but for primarily street riding, the tethered system made a little more sense for me. But I realize that it won't be perfect, either. I have also thought about a dual-trigger system that uses an optional tether as a backup but it seems like it would be very complicated to make work, would be quite expensive, and might not be worth it in the end.
I ride with Rurocs EOX with shockwave that came for free - The best thing with that is that i can ride with my earplugs in and still hear the music in surprisingly good detail! Got an all white one i love the look, have had other people say how they like it. It meets safety standards like every other helmet and also who gives a shit if you want some star wars theme on your helmet or something? Do what you want, i think its fun they offer stuff like that why the hell not theres plenty of other brand helmets out there with some crazy designs on, get off your high horse. I agree they are more pricey than i'd like but they always seem to have sales on so its not horrendous.
@@patrickwharton5042 Helmets with heads-up displays and rear cameras are actually pretty cool. The key advantage is that you don’t have to look down at your phone, which is the actual source of distraction.
@@jamesmicheal8736 Not a bad idea, just wish I had more space on the bars/clip on. Maybe the future is having rear cameras built into the tail of the bike from factory, then you can pair it with a HUD in whatever helmet supports it. Would certainly make the helmets cheaper. This might be against regulations though
I've got a little 2" rear view camera system on my bike that I use the heck out of. It doesn't replace mirrors, but it's good enough to tell me when I have someone on my tail. My actual mirrors are a pair of Kemimoto "bar end" mirrors mounted inboard of my switch assemblies and pointing under my arms. Not quite as good as sport bike mirrors, but better than having mirrors at the ends of my bars when I'm partly tucked forward.
My Joe Rocket Atomic keeps me cool in the summer, warm in the winter, dry in the rare rain ride, and roadrash free when I low sided. Got mine for $140 and I'm still wearing it.
I’ve had several helmets including Ruroc Atlas 4. I’ll never pay the premium prices for helmets that Yammy recommends. Realistically I’m not racing, I’m just a daily rider. The Ruroc is great. Very comfortable and ECE rated. You can’t fake ECE. Also, they look freaking cool.
The aerodynamic effects of a high end helmet absolutely helps on the street. Am icon airmada offers literally constantly above 65 mph. My Corsair x almost never buffets. It makes longer rides way easier on your neck. The difference is crazy.
I go ultimate weight savings and just don't wear any gear period! Just pop in my air pods and Lazer Faces and ride my 2001 R1 at felony speeds, brother.
Under $1000 for all the recommended beginner gear in your description is amazing to me. I was thinking it would be more like $3000+. Time for me to get off instagram and actually learn things. Thank you for educating me.
Nah... I have a carbon HJC full face touring helmet, which is fine and not very expensive. Super light, comfy and all. Also my Gore-tex jacket, overpants and mittens have served me well for years, day in day out, because they do the job of keeping water out as I commute daily in any kind of weather. I buy all my gear in sales, usually over winter, when they introduce the next gen and the old gen goes cheap.
Almost entire video feels like pointless ranting at more expensive stuff. Noone needs a Chinese grom if they can afford Klim jacket. They have expensive motorcycle, they want the best most comfortable gear money can buy. Dont see an issue there honestly
Gore-tex only works well with snowmobile gear. A high end Tobe onesie with goretex costs around $800 (without the liner, but you can just wear a sweatshirt underneath if your being cheap) and nice goretex Klim gloves are about $130 and are a godsend.
I’ve got half a dozen or more riding jackets, textile to leather. I even replace all the armor with ce2 D30 and I don’t think I have 1500 in all of them
Mostly agree, except about the high-quality helmets bit. The point of Aero design is not to squeeze out an extra mph, but to reduce wind resistance and buffeting on your head, which reduces the strain on your neck, just like the reduced weight of carbon fibre helmets does. In combination that does make a difference over the course of a full day of riding, let alone longer tours. And another note on rain gear -- while I personally prefer an outer-layer solution to slip on, a buddy of mine prefers waterproof gear because he says the probability of getting rained on during a multi-day trip is 1 and he hates stopping to dress up and undress. So it's simply a matter of personal preference.
@@wibblywobblyidiotvision I'd recommend looking into "championhelmets" just search for carbon fiber vs poly - any type of link will probably get this comment removed. There are a lot of articles you can find online and easy searches so I'm not sure why you're asking for a cite unless it's an attempt to discredit my comment or narrative. In fact I'm amazed Yammy did literally 0 research on this himself before making baseless claims in his video to begin with. Had he read even a single article he would've realized. Anyway, if you're actually interested in learning about it I recommend a search on the topic on your own, there are far more benefits to carbon fiber than there are drawbacks.
@@wibblywobblyidiotvision Unfortunately each time I try to "cite" something, youtube removes my comment (4th attempt). If you're actually interested and not looking to just discredit my comment, I'd recommend researching on your own. There's plenty of it out there.
@@Dylesxic TH-cam won't let you post links. But it will let you say, for example, "see report by X titled Y". And yes, i'm genuinely interested, as are other people I would imagine. So if you've got some of that...
@@wibblywobblyidiotvision Championhelmets has a comparison: Poly vs Fiber vs Carbon. I didn't post any links in any attempt as I was already aware you can't. We'll see if this goes through but again, just spend 10 minutes and you'll find many.
I have one of the expensive Klim jackets. It was expensive even when it was on sale. But it's honestly been one of the best motorcycle jackets I've ever had for both ergonomics and not being too hot while also providing good rain protection. When you ride your motorcycle to work it's nice to not show up super sweaty. They're also good jackets when the temperature in the morning is low 50's and the ride home is sunny and low 80's. Plus it's pockets are great. It's also very comfortable for when I ride the bike somewhere and then have to walk around. I've spent more money buying many cheaper jackets before I bought the Klim, but none of them did pretty much everything I wanted.
I wear Klim, I ride in all weather except hot, humid rainy as I live in New England and we don't have much of that here. I ride some 1,000 to over 2,000 mile trips. Klim works better than anything else I've tried, and I've been riding since 1978. Before Klim, I have been caught in downpours that have started suddenly and continued for hours, and in those situations you get instantly drenched to the point that if you pull into a motel your gear doesn't dry out by the next day. Klim has saved me on many days like that, and while warm with all the vents closed, you can open the vents that face away from the rain, and I prefer that to being wet all day. It works. You may not have tried a Klim suit, and I urge you to.
I may be ignorant, but what is the scam with Ruroc? I bought one recently having just gotten back into riding after about 10 years away. Honestly I think its really comfortable and quiet and i like the looks, also got it for about half off. It has an ece rating but i dont want to ride with it if they're scamming safety ratings somehow.
Don't be worried. The scam with these helmets is simply that they are too expensive. I also bought an Atlas 4.0 on sale 60% off and am currently riding it. After I had a crash with my AGV... but the next helmet will definitely be a Shoei or Bell.
@WichitayardbarberLawncare I don't wanna write a novel but, when they first released they didn't have the ece and the ceo said he didn't care because riders are testing them in real life for him. Also the ruroc Facebook and reviews ban people who speak negatively about the product. Many reviews from back then explain the drama in depth. Wear what you want but the company is too shady for me. Just look up some older reviews for the details.
They are overpriced, and more than a couple of people have had issues with the EPS liner separating from the hard shell. My AGV K1S was cheaper and quieter than the Atlas 4.0 I tried. My Scorpion R1 Carbon is everything the Ruroc Race wishes it was and was cheaper. Not to mention, people actually use the R1 Carbon in Moto GP.
I think people just love to hate Ruroc. I also own a 4.0 and have had zero problems with it. I bought this year's IOM TT arai and I have two or three pressure points that make the helmet unusable after about 30 mins.
Highly disagree on tethered airbags. Electronics are better, yes. But tethered airbags are much cheaper. There are electronic airbags at similar prices to tethered systems, but all of them come with some BS like proprietary cartridges or subscription services. Maybe it's old school of me, but I'm not paying a subscription for my gear. The airbag I can afford and rely on is the safest airbag.
Electronic airbags are not clearly better. There are trade-offs for both types (cost being one). Despite the perception and intent, E-airbags also don't always deploy when they're supposed to, like, yes, sometimes during lowsides. They're arguably less reliable than tethered ones. Turns out that creating a totally reliable algorithm for street riding is more complicated than creating one for racing/track use. Either type of airbag is definitely worth having and will provide superior protection in many crashes, but neither is foolproof and it's not clear which is objectively better for a given street rider.
THANKS for the honest opinion on ruroc. I was always drawn to those and multiple times I was close to click the BUY button... but for some reason I always chose HJC or SHOEI
That airbag vest is awesome! Gotta get me one of those. I currently wear the Icon compression shirt and 3/4 compression pants that have the impact zones covered with D3O and Kevlar, but the vest looks like it provides ultimate protection for upper body.
I‘m riding with ruroc for 3years now, (atlas 3.0/ atlas 4.0 carbon/ atlas 4.0 track) Im riding a S1000rr. The Helmest do really have a cheap quality, the rubber lines fell off by themselves on all of them, but easily fixable with glue. I bought all of them while they were 50-70% (ruroc often does sales randomly) so Atlas 4.0 Track 750€ was only 350€ when I bought it. But I guess u never used a Ruroc shockwave. I have a Sena 50s harman Kadron on my ruroc Track, and it‘s A LOT quieter than the shockwave. The Shockwave is indeed better than all com systems, it just doesnt have mesh. ( the new cardo one even does now) And the Battery is lasting also a lot longer. About 10hours Max Volume. It rly made me angry when u said that the shockwave is that bad. I know ruroc is kinda cheap, but it looks good, and u got a huge visibility thanks to the Visor. (Crosshelmet view on a racing helmet). Maybe test the stuff urself before u tell some lies.
Out of all 5 Shockwaves I have, only 2 reliably work (in 2 years). Even pre-ordered the Cardo one for the EOX and not surprised it got delayed. The shockwave I had for the EOX, left speaker failed 3 months into using it (mind you I'm not a daily rider) and have been battling with their customer service for replacement. When they work, they work damn well. You must have lucked out with yours or I just have bad luck. I find myself going back to using my Sena 50C.
I’ve always enjoyed my Kim jacket. Just buy them used or on sale when they’re at the end of a generation. Quality is a lot better than my older jackets for sure, and people who have crash tested them seem happy.
So I'm a mostly fairweather rider, but I've got a set of "Moto Line" one piece waterproofs I bought in the late 90s, and they still work fine! I was in an hour long heavy downpour recently and was still dry underneath. That's what I call value for money.
There's a tradeoff to each. Tethered airbags are cheaper and more reliable, but have a longer activation time because of the tether, require a minimum pull force to activate, and require you to remember to clip in to the bike every time you ride. Electronic airbags are faster and deploy in crashes where you don't separate from the bike, but they cost more, have to be serviced by the factory after a crash, use more expensive gas mixes, and require a charged battery and GPS connection in order to work. Both are excellent options that will give you an extra layer of protection in most (but not all) collisions.
Is Gore-Tex hyped up and questionably overpriced? No doubt. My motorcycle experience is limited, but I have a pretty extensive hiking/backpacking/mountaineering/outdoorsy pedigree. Other companies make usable waterproof membranes. I’ve tried most of them. While goretex isn’t the panacea it props itself up as I’ve yet to find a competitor that performs better, or holds up near as long. It’s one of the few “luxury” things I’ll spend the extra on without question. When you need a membrane to simply work goretex delivers more than the others.
Yep. My alpinism outer shells - gore tex. My ski gear outer shells, which take a pasting as I work on the slopes and have to be outside in all weathers - gore tex. For motorcycling, a gore-tex jacket is at least as comfortable and breathable as the good old leathers, lighter to boot, and you don't have to carry a separate set of waterproofs in case there's a downpour.
I can only agree. I work in a shoe store and i always tell my customers that theres a bunch of other companies who makes Tex membranes, but none of them will keep you dry quite like GoreTex. The fact that it almost doubles the price of kids shoes is insane though
So you're a good weather biker? Goretex or Thinsulate or whatever is also the best windbreaker. Maybe you don't need it because your airbagpack functions as a bodywarmer as well. But when it realy gets cold-does your innerjacket still fit, if you wear that? 1
Seriously? 1:06 it's an hjc rpha11 Which i recently had the (un)pleasure of crashing with and it did the job... I hope this eas a mistake of your team but yku should at least watch your own video before posting, your being a hypocrite and misleading your followers, i hope youll either edit or correct this in a post
Many good points, but if you live in Norway, 3 layer Goretex, are a lifesaving technology, because weather and temperature can change in minutes. I just love it.
The Gore-Tex issue actually has an easy fix. The problem with Gore-Tex, or any "breathable" membrane, is that when it gets wet, the layer of water on the outside is strong enough that the water vapor trying to get out, can't, because it doesn't have enough pressure to penetrate the seal that the water makes over the pores in the membrane. To fix this, spray the jacket or pants down with some basic waterproofing silicone spray. This will keep the water beading up and falling off the jacket, leaving the pores open so that the vapor can make it through the fabric. This works very well, believe me. I spent 4 hours outside in a PNW downpour at a collision scene in the middle of the summer. Stayed dry as a bone.
Okok bear with me, I got into motorcycles a few years ago and am about to get my motorcycle license. What are some good tips & tricks I should know about? What to always remember when driving?
He stated that there are better options and with technology reaction times of the vests are reduced. Nokia 3310 was one of the best phones ever created, but would i ever pick it now when technology has provided us with better options? This is how Yam's trying to explain this along with helpful insights like if someone lowsides and the vest dont get activated. He is never saying "dont wear this vest even if its the only thing you have", you just mad, and he knows too that the slightest functioning protection that added are just positive but if you can pick a better option then why not?
@@nesta8273Well, it's not actually clear which is better. There are trade-offs involved and he should know that. Faster deployment is only one point. Electronic vests and tethered vests are both very useful but neither is perfect. Both are capable of providing much more protection in many crashes but not every crash. They both have pros and cons. E-vests have also been known to not deploy in some lowsides. They also have more potential failure points and are arguably still less reliable than tethered vests. Most are still not user serviceable and are costly (and sometimes with weeks-long wait times) to have factory serviced. And contrary to what to what he claims in this video, tethered vests are quite hard to falsely deploy. E-airbags are still more likely to false-deploy--sometimes when riding. Check the fine print. A major manufacturer of the electronic brains for several name brands of e-airbag vests seems to say that the vests will deploy in only ~75% of crashes. Tethered airbags, while not deploying as fast or deploying at all under certain conditions, will deploy closer to 100% of the time when you've been separated from the bike, which tend to be highsides and the real big ones. So, which is better? Hard to say. Like I said, trade-offs.
@nesta8273 Well, it's not actually clear which is better. There are trade-offs involved and he should know that. Either type is very useful but neither is perfect. Both are capable of providing excellent protection in many crashes but not every crash. E-vests have also been known to not deploy in some lowsides. They also have more potential failure points and are arguably still less reliable than tethered vests. Most are still not user serviceable and are costly (sometimes with weeks-long wait times) to have factory serviced. And tethered vests are actually quite hard to falsely deploy. E-airbags are still more likely to false-deploy--sometimes when riding. Check the fine print. A major manufacturer of the electronics for several name brands of e-airbag vests says that the airbags will deploy in only ~75% of crashes. Tethered airbags, while not deploying quite as fast or at all under certain conditions, will deploy closer to 100% of the time when you've been separated from the bike, which tend to be highsides and the real big ones. Which is better? Hard to say.
@@nesta8273 Well, the problem is e-airbags aren't clearly better than tethered ones--and he's supposed to know that. There are several pros and cons for both types. Electronic systems don't always deploy when they're supposed to, funny enough, including during lowsides. I've seen quite a.few reports of Alpinestars TA models not deploying during lowsides, for example. Plus, e-airbags are still more prone to false deployment. Tethered ones, contrary to YN's statement, are actually quite hard to falsely deploy. A major manufacturer of the electronics used in several brand-name airbag vests basically says that its system can be expected to deploy in only ~75% of crashes. Tethered airbags, while not quite as fast to deploy, are much closer to 100% deployment if you separate from the bike, which is usually during bigger crashes like highsides. So, which is better? Hard to say. Either type is well worth using but neither is foolproof.
7:30 and that's why I kept both of mine from the Navy (my original and after they changed the uniforms) when I go on a long ride I wear my armored Harley hoodie (waterproof and abrasion resistant) regardless of the weather. for shorter rides I roll my issued gortex and throw it in my saddle bag so if it starts raining I can pull over and throw it on.
i mean i got a ruroc and yea it might not be the typical shoei but it is still safethy rated both DOT and ECE and they have a lot of options outside of their marvel themes and what not. yea it can be corny but it does look dope if ur squidding and only riding street. also the shockwave is way better than any other system iv ever had in every aspect.
I have a Klim Carlsbad jacket, which us laminated Gore-Tex, and recently bought a pair of Alpinestars RT-8 GTX boots. I use them for commuting and work, and love them. Weather is unpredictable, most of the time it rains, some days don't. I would feel more discomfort carrying a whole set of rain gear all the time. I plan on buying a mesh jacket when summer hits, boots are great in hot and cold weather, wear them all day until I get home.
Waterproof is the same as the nine out of ten dentists agree. I sprayed the silicone we get for work on my jacket and it was way more effective keeping me "dry". Water beading in front of my own eyes.
Gore tex is the standard for a reason. Skiers/Boarders, Hikers, Mountaineers, etc. all love it. I clock 50+ days skiing every season and know I'm getting reasonable water proofing when gore tex is there. That being said - I definitely do not ride my motorcycle in the rain enough to care about waterproofing. If you're one of the psychopaths that do, you should know that every season you should apply new waterproofing.
My carbon fiber Ruroc helmet actually relieves much of neck stress I got from my previous Agv K1. Agv makes full carbon fiber helmets but the price is double. I am not into the superhero thing but the Ruroc helmet looks like pretty solid and well-made. All liner and cushioning materials are in a pretty good quality. The customer service seems to be even better than Agv or Shoei. The visor seal got loose and flew off on highway one day and I emailed Ruroc. They immediately mailed me a new one with their branded T-shirt for free. 😂
I think you’re wrong about the HUD concept. If done properly, it can be a great accessory. Connect it to the blind spot radar, the dash to see warning lights, nav etc. and it can be a very useful tool. Yes of course you can do without, but we've been riding without ABS or TC or many other tech that are now standard and we were fine, only now we do better.
Klim gear is worth every penny. They have jackets that are WAY under $1500. Like others have said, if you want to save even more buy clearance or display models. Klim's customer support is amazing. Lifetime warranty, basically if it CAN be repaired, they will repair it, if not they will work out a deal for a replacement. I've had a new pair of gloves sent as a replacement for something that couldn't be repaired, my wife had a 5 year old patch of velcro wear out that was replaced. I have a 6 year old jacket that has seen daily commuting in sun, rain and snow. Still keeps water out and isn't too hot in the humid southeast US summers.
The one carbon fiber upgrade I'd say is really noticable is carbon heel guards. They offer a way better feel and the way they flex is way more linear than steel or aluminium
As an ADV guy, my sub 200 dollar Sedici jacket is top tier. Cooler than my perforated leather jacket, waterproof, hella pockets even one for a hydration bladder, armor, good protection rating. But I am looking at getting the Klim Krios Pro helmet so ya got me there 😭
I agree about how ALL waterproof/breathable membranes work to a degree. Unless the outer fabric has "wetted out" ("become filly saturated"), it still transpires (?) perspiration. And such membranes also are windproof which enhances comfort when the weather is cool or cold. I'll take the convenience and safety of my Aerostich R3 over any other textile gear available or the extreme inconvenience of carrying a rainsuit and having to stop to put it on and take it off as well as zero breathability (for most of what's available). Yes, when it's hot (90F+), nothing is particularly comfortable to wear but I'd rather have my skin intact then end up with major roadrash.
Have you ever owned a ruroc?....... I have, twice. The first one actually saved my life and the ONLY ONE issue I had with the helmets was that on occasion, very rarely, the connection for the Bluetooth with other riders sometimes lagged out. None the less sound was great, padding was great, 9/10 times id be using the Bluetooth personally just for music which always worked without a problem.
Hey, I agree with 90% of your vid but... there was a great HUD company NUVIZ that I found REALLY great. Shame they failed but the HUD unit I have was really cool and SAVED me on my first US motocycle trip. I understand your ideas in this vid but I actually liked helmut hud idea.
A heads up display makes a lot of sense to me like I've seen a fair many of videos of a biker looking away for a millisecond. Then boom rear ends a car. Having your Speedo and gps on a heads up display makes sense. Am I wrong for thinking of that?
Gore tex is a compromise, as everything is, but it is really impressive to this day. I still use my 1991 us army issue jacket regularly, and it still works great. It has remained waterproof, but not unbearably hot when it's dry out when hiking. To be fair, it has extensive venting, that can be closed by rugged zippers when it starts to rain. For an older guy like myself, goretex still remains a selling point.
I actually see a value in the heads-up display idea itself. For newer riders if they made it cheaper it would make it easier for newer riders to get into and learn the ropes without the need to take the eyes of the road. Plus a transparent map display is not the worst and makes it much easier to know when you must turn and you don't have to remove your eyes from the road. For newer riders it is valuable since it lets them learn balance and the other fundamentals of biking without having to remove as much attention from the road and therefore increases their awareness. Though you may see it as annoying others may see it as a potentially valuable concept because when you are riding situational awareness is incredibly valuable and it is best that new riders be given an option that lets them learn this without causing more risk to their lives than necessary, a rear facing camera on some also provides valuable information without you need to look at your mirrors. We are in a day and age where things must adapt to increase your safety and if they can make these helmets with good working heads-up displays and rear facing cameras that is something that needs to be invested in, simply cars are becoming bigger and faster, as well as more dangerous to bikers meaning the bikers need to get ahead of the curve and improve on safety and situational awareness.
The nice thing about Klim is North American sizing. Euro brands tend to run a bit small, even with glove sizes. For a good alternative to Klim, have a look at MSR gear. It's available at Rocky Mountain ATV. It's Klim quality at 1/2 - 2/3 the price.
My biggest concern with airbag vests or suits is the ability to refill them your self. Some you have to send into the manufacturer after every crash. My Helite, which happens to be tethered, saved me in my first race of the day. It was an almost high side that bucked me off the inside of the bike. I was able to stick a new canister in there and ride the next race and hour later.
Imo gore-tex is worth it mostly in gloves. Not in the middle of a hot summer but in spring/autumn conditions it works great. Nothing worse for me than cold and soggy gloves
I buy a helmet every few years when I return to Japan. You can buy a Japanese carbon fiber helmet for around $350. Of course, you can also buy Shoei and Arai helmets at low prices. The big gear stores are often far from the train stations, but you can usually get there by bus. If you are planning to visit Japan, why don't you go there?
I got a Nolan N60-6 cause they fit me better than every other helmet I tried and it fit the budget. it's approved for use on tracks in the UK, looks cool enough, comfortable, glasses/sunglasses friendly and I can't feel my headphones under the helmet so I can comfortable listen to music
I commented on a ruroc ad asking if they were Snell certified. Their response was that they were not because Snell isn't actually safer, they're just specific tests for high speeds...
Hi Yammie, i do think Gore-Tex is useful for daily riders that live in a country where the weather is unpredictable like UK, but not necessarily the full gear.
I sort of understand the ADV gear addiction. I backpacked a bunch of the AT with a good friend who would weigh his gear to the gram and swap out to get it as low as possible. But he was packing with me, the slowest animal in the forest not mortally injured. But it was his hobby. He liked the ultralight stoves and calorie powders… ADV guys are just enjoying their hobby.
Honestly so glad i saw this video! About to get my first bike and currently acquiring gear, ruroc has been plastered all over my insta, facebook etc. and was probably gonna get 1, but not anymore!
But ruroc lowkey look the best. Love the extraordinary design on mine. For occasional road use with a Sena im absolutely happy. But the prices are crazy. Got a good deal with 280€
Aerodynamics and lightness / carbon fiber are both super nice. Having a helmet that's quiet and doesn't make your head bobble is a must. Some helmets **look** like they would slip through the wind, but actually really suck to wear because your head is bobbling all over the place and you need earplugs to ride fast or you'll get tinnitus lol. Carbon fiber isn't as important as that, but a lighter helmet is always a more comfortable helmet, especially when there's G forces involved. My first carbon helmet was just a Joe Rocket, but I liked it more than my many times more expensive Shoe just because it was so much unbelievably lighter. My neck would ache on long rides just from looking into corners or looking around at stoplights with my other helmets, but the carbon helmet is like wearing a ball cap. Huge difference. It doesn't even have to be exposed carbon either, but I think it looks cool. Anything full face that passes the more strict euro standards is more than enough to keep you safe, then make sure it's light and look up reviews talking about wind noise (or lack there of)
Carbon helmet is definitely worth it. It shaved 200 grams off of the helmet. I used a normal Scorpion Exo-Tech, then bought a carbon one which did definitely feel slightly lighter. After that I bought an Evo-1400 carbon, which is even lighter. It makes a huge difference to comfort for me, especially on longer rides. Bonus point: It looks sick.
Sidenote: The carbon version of my helmet was not even €100 more expensive. It's a 350 euro helmet, which is not that expensive for the quality that Scorpion delivers.
I’ve recently had my little intro into biking. My great grandpa had this old 1969 bsa 650 lightning imported new. The damn thing hasn’t seen the road since 1974 and went through a house fire about 5 years ago. I was surprised when all I had to do was replace the tires, rebuild the carbs, and replace all the fluids and now the thing runs and drives. Took me 12 days to clean off all the ash by hand, no pressure washer to be seen, and actually get it to run which most of that was me waiting for parts. Pretty damn easy to work on except it was designed by the British so there’s a lot of quirks with it. Like the carbs can only be taken off and put back on if you go thread by thread on both nuts at the same time. Kind of weird. Or the fact that there are two manuals for it and both are for like 6 different years of bikes and don’t actually correspond to the bike I have. Or the fact you put oil in the oil tank and a check valve feeds oil to the crank but only when the bike is running so after an oil change you have to run the bike with no oil until it decides to put some in it. Or the fact the brakes are apart of the wheel so if you want to change those out you have to take off the wheel. I mean some of that might just be all bikes but seriously weird coming from a car background.
I live in the tropics where when it's rainy season it's rainy season. we wear regular chinese made raincoats that are equivalent of $10 for the rubberized ones. Sure it's hot to wear them but man up, it's not like you're going to be stuck wearing them for hours. and if you are, you aren't supposed to be in a motorcycle to begin with.
The SMILE on my face when ruroc was the first words out of your mouth. Biggest confirmed scam ever. Thank you yammie. Thank you.
I'm beginning to think Damon is going to win over Ruroc. At least Ruroc is putting a product out there...
NBT Clothing is close to the biggest but I think Ruroc takes the win
i know ruroc sucks. but I want one just for the looks
@@taylorv4what's wrong with nbt? I've seen a few "crash test" and they seem to hold up well.
I like the helmets
The ONLY riders I’ve ever seen wearing Ruroc helmets are content creators
Now that I think about it, you're right! I've never seen one in the wild...
My exs brother wears one. I gave him hell about it but he likes them.@
Someone had the boba fet one in my msf course, I’m pretty sure the face shield fell off when they dropped the bike at like 5
I’m a rider myself, and if I ever have anything in common or be associated in any way with the type of content creator riders that wear ruroc helmets, I’ll just stop being a rider
I know a guy who wears one when he rides highway. In town he's no gear, interferes with his style
If you do really want a Gortex top and bottom and don’t want to break the bank, go to your local military surplus store and look for their waterproof pants/jackets. You’ll spend a fraction of the price and it’s all made to be thrown on over whatever you’re already wearing, including boots. Hope this helps.
😂i do it
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@@lukebradshaw9608 Gold crayon comment 🥰
Ryan at Fort nine did a great video on Goretex. Look for it and you will never pay the premium for goretex again.
I will take every ounce off my 65 year old neck that I can. Carbon fiber is a plus for me.
I said the same. I weld for a living so I'm wearing a helmet 8 hours a day
I feel nothing better than an Arai. Even lighter helmets don't feel lighter, because usually they are bulkier.
51 here, years of neck issues, carbine fiber on my last two lids, worth it!
@@lees907bet an Arai feels better
Yep. I’ve got arthritis in my neck and herniated discs. It’s miserable. The lighter the helmet the better.
Regardless of the hype, I will continue to wear a Carbon Fiber Helmet and Airbag on street after it saved my life. Under normal circumstances, sure street speeds won't need it...but that doesn't account for what OTHERS do around us. I got rear ended on my Motorcycle on my way to work early in the morning 2 months ago by a White SUV and got sent sliding over 100feet into a ditch. It was the longest 8 or so seconds of my life, but when they got me into the Hospital, I was shocked to see my Carbon Fiber Helmet (Scorpion R1) barely damaged and my airbag backpack (HElite) destroyed. I vividly remembering making unbroken eye contact with the pavement as I slid for a while, so they definitely did their job.
The Emergency Room told me they'd seen Motorcyclists die from less and were shocked to hear I actually survived such a devastating rear end collision on a motorcycle and only have a broken shoulder to show for it. They X-rayed me, CT Scanned me, and even sent me for an MRI, but my knees, elbows, spine and brain were all fine. They were in disbelief that I was even hit by a car, It was the first time they ever heard of a "Motorcycle airbag system". One surgery later, the Surgeon was impressed how well it performed, the nurse asked for pictures of my backpack since she wanted to buy one for her son, who just recently started riding. I would actually not be here without modern gear, that or I would've sustained permanent life changing paralysis and other major injuries. However, thanks to the advancements in Motorcycle Gear, I will be fully recovered in a few months and I hope to return to the open road soon!
Gore-Tex 'How often are people ridding in torrential down pours?' Clear Yammie hasn't been to the UK recently!!
He lives in texas, dude havent seen rain since birth
The point was that wearing rain gear when it’s not raining isn’t comfortable. You’re better off with season appropriate dry gear and a more basic rain suit you put on when it’s raining and you tuck away when it’s not.
Yeah that’s not exactly true depending on where in Texas you are. Anywhere on the golf coast is real hot and also real humid six months a year. The worst case scenario for wearing rain gear around all the time “just in case”
Michigan here, rains often. Anything with a solid membrane doesn't let wind in either
Or lives year round in the Pacific Northwest, where it rains for nearly 6 months straight, every year.
Fortnine did an entire video on Gore Tex, and it's worth a watch.
PFAS, forever chemicals.
Both my carbon helmets weigh very little. I weld for a living so I have to wear a helmet 8 hours a day at work. Hurts with my neck if helmets are too heavy. I have a full face for the cold and a dirt helmet for the summer. FXR dirt helmet is insanely light. Those couple pounds matter to some of us
Smiled when this started with Ruroc
Talking about helmet aero… if you’ve got a huge chunk of plastic hanging off the chin of it, you don’t care about helmet aero.
All I'm gonna say is the ruroc diablo helmet saved my life as I crashed at 60mph smacking my helmet and doing 5 or 6 barrel rolls across the highway, I made a Facebook post on the ruroc Facebook page and they sent me a brand new helmet for free! I'd probably be dead or in a coma if I didn't have a helmet on during that wreck. Do ur own research tho but that was my experience with ruroc
Okay but arai/agv/hjc... will do the job better.
On a trip in Canada in September the Temps changed from 25C and sunny to 1C and rain. Hard rain. I did 2 consecutive 700 km days In 1 degree and rain. My Klim riding suit kept me warm and dry. On hot days I open all the vents and the air flows through like I'm not wearing anything. If you're actually doing some miles you are going to ride through scattered showers. Not having to stop to put on rain gear is a big plus. And let's not forget the magic foam padding in all the critical areas that stays soft and squishy until it takes an impact and the kevlar panels in case of a slide. The colours match my bike perfectly as well. Love My Klim gear. Worth every penny
I was going post almost exactly the same response. FYI Yammie, there are actually some ADV riders that do multiple 1000km days (620 miles so you don't need to do the math) back to back and don't stop for weather. Putting on and taking off a garbage bag rain suits sucks when it rains intermittently all day. I ride in northern Quebec in areas where I need to carry a satellite communicator. Help could be a long way off in the event of a crash so like the original poster, I love my Klim Badlands for the top spec safety and don't regret paying for it.
I got chirped by the gear girl at a dealer and after this video on top was second guessing my impending purchase of a Gore-Tex jacket, but exactly as you say-I couple trips between BC, AB, and SK this summer definitely had me wanting an all-in-one solution that I didn't have to worry about packing or stopping to put on/off (and even if there's reduced breathability in a jacket with vs without Gore-Tex, it's miles better than being stuck in a rainsuit once you're in the sun-and as you said: pop some zippers and you're even better off.)
What you said about the tether not pulling is a very good reason to consider a wireless system but having to pay a subscription fee for your life saving equipment will ALWAYS be a scam.
What? Wait a minute? You have to pay a subscription fee in order to have the kit actually work? If so, that's some sort of utterly fucked up.
@@gumpyoldbugger6944 Yup. Get your wallet stolen, cancel your cards, and get your airbag system shut off as you crash your bike on the way home. Rough day.
@@gumpyoldbugger6944 There's an airbag made by Klim that has a very discounted upfront cost, but requires a subscription. Most airbags are pay once, ride forever. Though you do have to maintain them by keeping them charged or clipping in every time you ride. Electronic airbags also have to be factory serviced after a crash, vs. tethered airbags which can be serviced by the end user and typically use cheaper gas mixes.
@@gumpyoldbugger6944 - there are no subscription fees on my D-air gear. Anyone paying a fee got bent over and done dry.
YN is totally wrong about that. It's quite hard to falsely deploy a tethered airbag. It's more likely an electronic one will falsely deploy.
aero just looks soo fricking coool tho
Cool looks are not going to save you in an accident.
@@toportime But the thing is that it doesnt hurt
@@CallMeAstroit does
@toportime that's like the dumbest thing you could've said 😂 if you get a helmet from a reputable brand, might as well get the one that looks better.
@@OfficiallySweaty.....how?
Only thing i disagree with is specifically the HUD with the Ray-Bans or BMW ConnectedRide sunglasses, as they can both be used outside of just motorcycles. Aside from that, agreed on all fronts
I was with him all the way up to HUDs. Honestly, it felt a little "old man yells at cloud" 😅 surprising he can't see the safety benefits of only moving your eyes and being able to stay aware of directional info, calls & media, even rear view. I think it's inarguable your reaction time would be quicker than lifting/turning your head 🤷🏿♂️
So I work for a race team sponsored by Ruroc and our rider went down twice this season both times in a Ruroc. Still to his head in one piece undamaged. Take that for what you will but its enough for me as the mechanic to wear a ruroc in my personal life.
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Yeah it’s a trend to dislike rurocs, people refuse to look at the facts. ece 22.03 is not easy to get
They’re just overpriced for what they are
yeah, they were kind shitty and sketchy, but the new ones are really comfortable and look sick. They came in strong and people forget that the fisrt couple of itterations of new product will have flaws. i have the 3.0 and 4.0 and both still feel great. they are a bit expensive but it looks like they only say that with ruroc and not other brands?
3:20 As a wrestlers, those neck exercises, also known as neck bridges, are your bread and butter, and they are fun too!!!
One thing on klim, as I work in the industry and put my hands on many products every day, is the way klim treats customers. Klim has a 5 year garuntee on most products, to where if you end up using it in an accident and have a police report, they will repair or replace it. Yes, they may be priced higher, but they also do have some durable materials that hold up really well in accidents compared to revit,dainese, or alpinestars textile gear with similar ratings
Accidental deployment of tethered vests is low because there’s a measure of force required to deploy. But that leads to your other criticism that there are crash scenarios where it won’t deploy when you need it
There are also scenarios where electronuc vests don't always deploy, like, funny enough, some lowsides. For example, I've seen several reports of Alpinestars TA vests not deploying during lowsides. A-stars has been updating its algorithm to address issues like that but they are not foolproof by any means. Electronic vests also seem to still be more likely to falsely deploy.
Check the fine print on the e-vests. One major maker of the electronics for several brand-name vests seems to say that users should only expect the vest to deploy in ~75% of crashes. Not foolproof at all.
The good news is that all airbag vests, no matter the type, are worth having if you can afford one. And both have trade-offs. E-vests should deploy faster but are subject to potentially more failure ponts--plus most are still not user serviceable and are expensive to maintain. Tethered vests won't deploy as quickly and, theoretically, in as many situations, but are arguably more reliable for the big crashes (if set up properly).
And despite what YN claims, tethered vests are actually quite difficult to falsely deploy. He really hasn't done his homework here.
@@ApexRadius Without extra sensors on the bike, usually attached to the forks, most electronic vests won't deploy when in a stationary accident e.g. rear ending at a junction. The Helite tethered vests are also one of the cheapest to recharge with air, and can be reused immediately (although recommended that they are inspected after an accident) if you have the allen key and a spare compressed air canister which are like $35.
I got the Helite Vented airbag jacket which can be used year round since it has a waterproof/windproof liner; £685/$939 to get two bits of kit in one. It does get a little warm around 30 Celcius but in the UK it generally doesn't get warmer than that often. Having my personal safety dependant on a subscription for the vest to function is a big disincentive for me, what is the long term support like and what if the manufacturer decides to change it's pricing.
If they made some sort of hybrid system that was both physically tethered, and used some other way of determining the bikes speed, e.g. wheel sensor, for electronic deployment, which didn't require a subscription and was easy to service, I would be up for one.
@@ApexRadius good info.
Correct, electronic vests have their issues as well. A lot of these vests rely for instance on gps. No gps signal means no deployment. Also the vests get primed after traveling a certain amount of distance or time. Meaning you jump on your bike, drive off, and instantly crash equals no deployment.
In the end, riding with an airbag vest is good. Tethered or electronic. Both have their pro and cons.
@@Bordpie Yes, for sure. The Helite e-Turtle requires the optional fork sensor ($158 US) to detect very slow speed or stationary crashes, like rear-enders. It's also supposed to improve overall crash detection. Some of the other e-airbags will only deploy at something like 10-15 mph. The manufacturers are always improving the electronic systems--I seem to recall that A-stars has now included stationary crashes in its algorithm, but I might be mistaken--but they still have limitations.
I've seen a lot of reports for years that various brand electronic systems didn't deploy during some lowsides, including the aforementioned A-stars TA, and even some lowsides that included tumbling. A tethered system would probably fair better with tumbling following a lowside. (But I'm personally a little less concerned with lowsides than the bigger crashes.)
Creating an electronic system for street riding is more difficult than for racing/track applications. It has to account for more factors and nuance than in the more predictable and controlled track environment. For instance, you're not likely to smash into a pothole on a race track, so the system doesn't have to figure out if that kind of impact is a crash or not. And stationary rear-enders are really unlikely on track, so it doesn't really have to account for them.
Another factor: Many electronic systems must be worn under gear (like the AS TA-5), which means that you might have to buy new (bigger) outer gear that allows enough room for deployment. Tethered vests/harnesses are usually worn over a jacket or suit and might even be a little more comfortable in hotter conditions.
I have the latest Hit-Air (made in Japan) tethered harness that's the same concept as the Helite tethered vests. I think they're the oldest manufacturer of moto airbags and they're well made. They also make the Spidi-branded airbag. I chose it over the Helite simply because it's a more open design that flows a bit more air and it's easier to wear over a suit or jacket with a race hump. I would be happy to have an electronic one, too, but for primarily street riding, the tethered system made a little more sense for me. But I realize that it won't be perfect, either.
I have also thought about a dual-trigger system that uses an optional tether as a backup but it seems like it would be very complicated to make work, would be quite expensive, and might not be worth it in the end.
I ride with Rurocs EOX with shockwave that came for free - The best thing with that is that i can ride with my earplugs in and still hear the music in surprisingly good detail! Got an all white one i love the look, have had other people say how they like it. It meets safety standards like every other helmet and also who gives a shit if you want some star wars theme on your helmet or something? Do what you want, i think its fun they offer stuff like that why the hell not theres plenty of other brand helmets out there with some crazy designs on, get off your high horse. I agree they are more pricey than i'd like but they always seem to have sales on so its not horrendous.
10:10 Pffff right, why even having rear cameras on cars if you can just use your 3 mirrors. They make no sense at all……..silly engineering.
I'd rather have the rear view camera on the bike. But I agree. Why is it bad to have a centered rear view? It's not.
@@patrickwharton5042 Helmets with heads-up displays and rear cameras are actually pretty cool. The key advantage is that you don’t have to look down at your phone, which is the actual source of distraction.
Nothing is more alluring to a new young rider than a ruroc helmet. I almost got one when I first started but thankfully I didn’t
ngl kinda want a sub $1000 helmet with rear view camera so I can delete my stock mirrors on bikes that don't adapt well to bar end mirrors
Only issue is that you move.
You would be better off installing a camera and running a mini monitor on the bars
That is do able for less than 1000.
@@jamesmicheal8736 Not a bad idea, just wish I had more space on the bars/clip on. Maybe the future is having rear cameras built into the tail of the bike from factory, then you can pair it with a HUD in whatever helmet supports it. Would certainly make the helmets cheaper. This might be against regulations though
I've got a little 2" rear view camera system on my bike that I use the heck out of. It doesn't replace mirrors, but it's good enough to tell me when I have someone on my tail. My actual mirrors are a pair of Kemimoto "bar end" mirrors mounted inboard of my switch assemblies and pointing under my arms. Not quite as good as sport bike mirrors, but better than having mirrors at the ends of my bars when I'm partly tucked forward.
just shoulder check
My Joe Rocket Atomic keeps me cool in the summer, warm in the winter, dry in the rare rain ride, and roadrash free when I low sided. Got mine for $140 and I'm still wearing it.
Yammie didnt even say hi, brother went straight to business with Ruroc
I’ve had several helmets including Ruroc Atlas 4. I’ll never pay the premium prices for helmets that Yammy recommends. Realistically I’m not racing, I’m just a daily rider. The Ruroc is great. Very comfortable and ECE rated. You can’t fake ECE. Also, they look freaking cool.
damn, Yams went in on Ruroc like they were Kawasaki, and we all know how much Yammie hates kawasaki!
Imagine Yammie riding a Versys, with a Ruroc helmet and Klim gear. HAHAHAHAHAHA
So close! He actually made a video about three months ago, starting specifically with how he doesn’t hate Kawasaki
I hate kawasaki, it's the broke man brand to go to
@@Slycarlo Green aura with flies
@@Slycarlo 😂 guess some1 lost to a kawi
The aerodynamic effects of a high end helmet absolutely helps on the street. Am icon airmada offers literally constantly above 65 mph. My Corsair x almost never buffets. It makes longer rides way easier on your neck. The difference is crazy.
I go ultimate weight savings and just don't wear any gear period! Just pop in my air pods and Lazer Faces and ride my 2001 R1 at felony speeds, brother.
Amen
Speedos and flip flops is the way.
Under $1000 for all the recommended beginner gear in your description is amazing to me. I was thinking it would be more like $3000+. Time for me to get off instagram and actually learn things. Thank you for educating me.
Nah... I have a carbon HJC full face touring helmet, which is fine and not very expensive. Super light, comfy and all. Also my Gore-tex jacket, overpants and mittens have served me well for years, day in day out, because they do the job of keeping water out as I commute daily in any kind of weather.
I buy all my gear in sales, usually over winter, when they introduce the next gen and the old gen goes cheap.
I'm not sure how you typed 78 words and managed to misspell water?
@@toportime Yeah. It’s a real mystery, isn’t it? 25 minutes have passed since you wrote this insightful reply. Did you come to any conclusion?
Carbon HJC F-70 here with ya bud. You should try carbon dirt helmet for the hot weather. My FXR weighs nothing
Almost entire video feels like pointless ranting at more expensive stuff. Noone needs a Chinese grom if they can afford Klim jacket. They have expensive motorcycle, they want the best most comfortable gear money can buy. Dont see an issue there honestly
Gore-tex only works well with snowmobile gear.
A high end Tobe onesie with goretex costs around $800 (without the liner, but you can just wear a sweatshirt underneath if your being cheap) and nice goretex Klim gloves are about $130 and are a godsend.
I’ve got half a dozen or more riding jackets, textile to leather. I even replace all the armor with ce2 D30 and I don’t think I have 1500 in all of them
Did you check all the pockets? I keep finding random money in mine.
@@machupikachu1085 isn’t that the best feeling in the world.
Mostly agree, except about the high-quality helmets bit. The point of Aero design is not to squeeze out an extra mph, but to reduce wind resistance and buffeting on your head, which reduces the strain on your neck, just like the reduced weight of carbon fibre helmets does. In combination that does make a difference over the course of a full day of riding, let alone longer tours. And another note on rain gear -- while I personally prefer an outer-layer solution to slip on, a buddy of mine prefers waterproof gear because he says the probability of getting rained on during a multi-day trip is 1 and he hates stopping to dress up and undress. So it's simply a matter of personal preference.
Carbon fiber helmets are better at dissipating energy from an impact. It isn't just a trend or "flex" as a helmet material.
Do you have an actual cite for that?
@@wibblywobblyidiotvision I'd recommend looking into "championhelmets" just search for carbon fiber vs poly - any type of link will probably get this comment removed. There are a lot of articles you can find online and easy searches so I'm not sure why you're asking for a cite unless it's an attempt to discredit my comment or narrative. In fact I'm amazed Yammy did literally 0 research on this himself before making baseless claims in his video to begin with. Had he read even a single article he would've realized.
Anyway, if you're actually interested in learning about it I recommend a search on the topic on your own, there are far more benefits to carbon fiber than there are drawbacks.
@@wibblywobblyidiotvision Unfortunately each time I try to "cite" something, youtube removes my comment (4th attempt). If you're actually interested and not looking to just discredit my comment, I'd recommend researching on your own. There's plenty of it out there.
@@Dylesxic TH-cam won't let you post links. But it will let you say, for example, "see report by X titled Y". And yes, i'm genuinely interested, as are other people I would imagine. So if you've got some of that...
@@wibblywobblyidiotvision Championhelmets has a comparison: Poly vs Fiber vs Carbon. I didn't post any links in any attempt as I was already aware you can't. We'll see if this goes through but again, just spend 10 minutes and you'll find many.
I have one of the expensive Klim jackets. It was expensive even when it was on sale. But it's honestly been one of the best motorcycle jackets I've ever had for both ergonomics and not being too hot while also providing good rain protection. When you ride your motorcycle to work it's nice to not show up super sweaty. They're also good jackets when the temperature in the morning is low 50's and the ride home is sunny and low 80's. Plus it's pockets are great. It's also very comfortable for when I ride the bike somewhere and then have to walk around. I've spent more money buying many cheaper jackets before I bought the Klim, but none of them did pretty much everything I wanted.
I wear Klim, I ride in all weather except hot, humid rainy as I live in New England and we don't have much of that here. I ride some 1,000 to over 2,000 mile trips. Klim works better than anything else I've tried, and I've been riding since 1978. Before Klim, I have been caught in downpours that have started suddenly and continued for hours, and in those situations you get instantly drenched to the point that if you pull into a motel your gear doesn't dry out by the next day. Klim has saved me on many days like that, and while warm with all the vents closed, you can open the vents that face away from the rain, and I prefer that to being wet all day. It works. You may not have tried a Klim suit, and I urge you to.
I agree with all your talking points. You seem like you're just getting more practical as you get older and wiser! Cheers, Buddy
I may be ignorant, but what is the scam with Ruroc? I bought one recently having just gotten back into riding after about 10 years away. Honestly I think its really comfortable and quiet and i like the looks, also got it for about half off. It has an ece rating but i dont want to ride with it if they're scamming safety ratings somehow.
Don't be worried. The scam with these helmets is simply that they are too expensive. I also bought an Atlas 4.0 on sale 60% off and am currently riding it. After I had a crash with my AGV... but the next helmet will definitely be a Shoei or Bell.
@WichitayardbarberLawncare I don't wanna write a novel but, when they first released they didn't have the ece and the ceo said he didn't care because riders are testing them in real life for him. Also the ruroc Facebook and reviews ban people who speak negatively about the product. Many reviews from back then explain the drama in depth. Wear what you want but the company is too shady for me. Just look up some older reviews for the details.
The pricing
They are overpriced, and more than a couple of people have had issues with the EPS liner separating from the hard shell. My AGV K1S was cheaper and quieter than the Atlas 4.0 I tried. My Scorpion R1 Carbon is everything the Ruroc Race wishes it was and was cheaper. Not to mention, people actually use the R1 Carbon in Moto GP.
I think people just love to hate Ruroc. I also own a 4.0 and have had zero problems with it. I bought this year's IOM TT arai and I have two or three pressure points that make the helmet unusable after about 30 mins.
100% love ruroc helmets! Love mine! Wish they were cheaper but look so badass
Highly disagree on tethered airbags. Electronics are better, yes. But tethered airbags are much cheaper. There are electronic airbags at similar prices to tethered systems, but all of them come with some BS like proprietary cartridges or subscription services. Maybe it's old school of me, but I'm not paying a subscription for my gear.
The airbag I can afford and rely on is the safest airbag.
Electronic airbags are not clearly better. There are trade-offs for both types (cost being one). Despite the perception and intent, E-airbags also don't always deploy when they're supposed to, like, yes, sometimes during lowsides. They're arguably less reliable than tethered ones.
Turns out that creating a totally reliable algorithm for street riding is more complicated than creating one for racing/track use.
Either type of airbag is definitely worth having and will provide superior protection in many crashes, but neither is foolproof and it's not clear which is objectively better for a given street rider.
@@ApexRadius absolutely. A mechanical airbag is pretty much guarenteed to deploy if you're off the bike.
THANKS for the honest opinion on ruroc. I was always drawn to those and multiple times I was close to click the BUY button... but for some reason I always chose HJC or SHOEI
I bought a Ruroc and it is strictly a collectors item
Sold it a year later…
Yeah? To collect in the landfill 😂
I'll stick with my Arai.
I've had ruroc for the last 4 years, no issues
That airbag vest is awesome! Gotta get me one of those. I currently wear the Icon compression shirt and 3/4 compression pants that have the impact zones covered with D3O and Kevlar, but the vest looks like it provides ultimate protection for upper body.
I‘m riding with ruroc for 3years now, (atlas 3.0/ atlas 4.0 carbon/ atlas 4.0 track)
Im riding a S1000rr.
The Helmest do really have a cheap quality, the rubber lines fell off by themselves on all of them, but easily fixable with glue.
I bought all of them while they were 50-70% (ruroc often does sales randomly) so Atlas 4.0 Track 750€ was only 350€ when I bought it.
But I guess u never used a Ruroc shockwave.
I have a Sena 50s harman Kadron on my ruroc Track, and it‘s A LOT quieter than the shockwave.
The Shockwave is indeed better than all com systems, it just doesnt have mesh. ( the new cardo one even does now)
And the Battery is lasting also a lot longer. About 10hours Max Volume.
It rly made me angry when u said that the shockwave is that bad.
I know ruroc is kinda cheap, but it looks good, and u got a huge visibility thanks to the Visor.
(Crosshelmet view on a racing helmet).
Maybe test the stuff urself before u tell some lies.
U got the worst Sena on the Market the 50s is known since release that it sucks at playing Music, Shockwave is okay to Good nothing more.
Out of all 5 Shockwaves I have, only 2 reliably work (in 2 years). Even pre-ordered the Cardo one for the EOX and not surprised it got delayed. The shockwave I had for the EOX, left speaker failed 3 months into using it (mind you I'm not a daily rider) and have been battling with their customer service for replacement. When they work, they work damn well. You must have lucked out with yours or I just have bad luck. I find myself going back to using my Sena 50C.
I’ve always enjoyed my Kim jacket. Just buy them used or on sale when they’re at the end of a generation. Quality is a lot better than my older jackets for sure, and people who have crash tested them seem happy.
So I'm a mostly fairweather rider, but I've got a set of "Moto Line" one piece waterproofs I bought in the late 90s, and they still work fine!
I was in an hour long heavy downpour recently and was still dry underneath. That's what I call value for money.
Does electronic airbags being better than tethered make tethered vests pure hype or just your youtube titles?
There's a tradeoff to each. Tethered airbags are cheaper and more reliable, but have a longer activation time because of the tether, require a minimum pull force to activate, and require you to remember to clip in to the bike every time you ride. Electronic airbags are faster and deploy in crashes where you don't separate from the bike, but they cost more, have to be serviced by the factory after a crash, use more expensive gas mixes, and require a charged battery and GPS connection in order to work. Both are excellent options that will give you an extra layer of protection in most (but not all) collisions.
@@brendanshroyer7696Well said. YN is off base here.
@@brendanshroyer7696 Pretty soon electronic airbags will come with a subscription and the airbag won't deploy if haven't made the payments on time.
When you lowside you don't really need your airbad. When you start to roll, yes you need it and the tether will be pulled.
8:49 try coming to the UK and saying that it switches from nice warm weather to a hurricane so quick
have you heard of cars ?
Is Gore-Tex hyped up and questionably overpriced? No doubt.
My motorcycle experience is limited, but I have a pretty extensive hiking/backpacking/mountaineering/outdoorsy pedigree. Other companies make usable waterproof membranes. I’ve tried most of them. While goretex isn’t the panacea it props itself up as I’ve yet to find a competitor that performs better, or holds up near as long. It’s one of the few “luxury” things I’ll spend the extra on without question. When you need a membrane to simply work goretex delivers more than the others.
Yep. My alpinism outer shells - gore tex. My ski gear outer shells, which take a pasting as I work on the slopes and have to be outside in all weathers - gore tex. For motorcycling, a gore-tex jacket is at least as comfortable and breathable as the good old leathers, lighter to boot, and you don't have to carry a separate set of waterproofs in case there's a downpour.
I can only agree. I work in a shoe store and i always tell my customers that theres a bunch of other companies who makes Tex membranes, but none of them will keep you dry quite like GoreTex. The fact that it almost doubles the price of kids shoes is insane though
So you're a good weather biker? Goretex or Thinsulate or whatever is also the best windbreaker. Maybe you don't need it because your airbagpack functions as a bodywarmer as well. But when it realy gets cold-does your innerjacket still fit, if you wear that?
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Seriously? 1:06 it's an hjc rpha11
Which i recently had the (un)pleasure of crashing with and it did the job... I hope this eas a mistake of your team but yku should at least watch your own video before posting, your being a hypocrite and misleading your followers, i hope youll either edit or correct this in a post
Spotted that in a sec, that's completly other league
came here to say the same thing, great helmet
x1,000,000,000 HJC RPHA 11, I recently bought one after my other helmets(one was RPHA 10) have had to be shelved from age.
Came here to say the same thing, the HJC Rpha 11 is legit.
I have that helmet, it's incredible with the carbon shell! it's decently quiet, stable at highway speeds and light
Many good points, but if you live in Norway, 3 layer Goretex, are a lifesaving technology, because weather and temperature can change in minutes. I just love it.
Talking about a scammy heads up display while selling a giveaway (payaway) is called hypocrisy.
The Gore-Tex issue actually has an easy fix. The problem with Gore-Tex, or any "breathable" membrane, is that when it gets wet, the layer of water on the outside is strong enough that the water vapor trying to get out, can't, because it doesn't have enough pressure to penetrate the seal that the water makes over the pores in the membrane. To fix this, spray the jacket or pants down with some basic waterproofing silicone spray. This will keep the water beading up and falling off the jacket, leaving the pores open so that the vapor can make it through the fabric. This works very well, believe me. I spent 4 hours outside in a PNW downpour at a collision scene in the middle of the summer. Stayed dry as a bone.
Rear facing camera and all you see is your passenger’s face? My wife’s a total babe and I like seeing her. I’ll take it!
I've crashed with a Tech Air 5 vest. They work and can be re-charged easily. Great video, I agree with all of your comments. Thanks for doing these!
So, Klim is like Sitka then…
Yaaaaaas
Okok bear with me, I got into motorcycles a few years ago and am about to get my motorcycle license.
What are some good tips & tricks I should know about?
What to always remember when driving?
lmao anyone talking shit on tethered airbags just isn't smart. Yammi, you really arent that bright
He stated that there are better options and with technology reaction times of the vests are reduced. Nokia 3310 was one of the best phones ever created, but would i ever pick it now when technology has provided us with better options? This is how Yam's trying to explain this along with helpful insights like if someone lowsides and the vest dont get activated. He is never saying "dont wear this vest even if its the only thing you have", you just mad, and he knows too that the slightest functioning protection that added are just positive but if you can pick a better option then why not?
I mean, we all know he's not bright just funny sometimes
@@nesta8273Well, it's not actually clear which is better. There are trade-offs involved and he should know that. Faster deployment is only one point.
Electronic vests and tethered vests are both very useful but neither is perfect. Both are capable of providing much more protection in many crashes but not every crash. They both have pros and cons.
E-vests have also been known to not deploy in some lowsides. They also have more potential failure points and are arguably still less reliable than tethered vests. Most are still not user serviceable and are costly (and sometimes with weeks-long wait times) to have factory serviced. And contrary to what to what he claims in this video, tethered vests are quite hard to falsely deploy. E-airbags are still more likely to false-deploy--sometimes when riding.
Check the fine print. A major manufacturer of the electronic brains for several name brands of e-airbag vests seems to say that the vests will deploy in only ~75% of crashes. Tethered airbags, while not deploying as fast or deploying at all under certain conditions, will deploy closer to 100% of the time when you've been separated from the bike, which tend to be highsides and the real big ones.
So, which is better? Hard to say. Like I said, trade-offs.
@nesta8273 Well, it's not actually clear which is better. There are trade-offs involved and he should know that.
Either type is very useful but neither is perfect. Both are capable of providing excellent protection in many crashes but not every crash.
E-vests have also been known to not deploy in some lowsides. They also have more potential failure points and are arguably still less reliable than tethered vests. Most are still not user serviceable and are costly (sometimes with weeks-long wait times) to have factory serviced. And tethered vests are actually quite hard to falsely deploy. E-airbags are still more likely to false-deploy--sometimes when riding.
Check the fine print. A major manufacturer of the electronics for several name brands of e-airbag vests says that the airbags will deploy in only ~75% of crashes. Tethered airbags, while not deploying quite as fast or at all under certain conditions, will deploy closer to 100% of the time when you've been separated from the bike, which tend to be highsides and the real big ones.
Which is better? Hard to say.
@@nesta8273 Well, the problem is e-airbags aren't clearly better than tethered ones--and he's supposed to know that. There are several pros and cons for both types.
Electronic systems don't always deploy when they're supposed to, funny enough, including during lowsides. I've seen quite a.few reports of Alpinestars TA models not deploying during lowsides, for example. Plus, e-airbags are still more prone to false deployment. Tethered ones, contrary to YN's statement, are actually quite hard to falsely deploy.
A major manufacturer of the electronics used in several brand-name airbag vests basically says that its system can be expected to deploy in only ~75% of crashes. Tethered airbags, while not quite as fast to deploy, are much closer to 100% deployment if you separate from the bike, which is usually during bigger crashes like highsides.
So, which is better? Hard to say.
Either type is well worth using but neither is foolproof.
7:30 and that's why I kept both of mine from the Navy (my original and after they changed the uniforms) when I go on a long ride I wear my armored Harley hoodie (waterproof and abrasion resistant) regardless of the weather. for shorter rides I roll my issued gortex and throw it in my saddle bag so if it starts raining I can pull over and throw it on.
Rurock is so gay. 😂
they do seem happy...
Joe's gay
i mean i got a ruroc and yea it might not be the typical shoei but it is still safethy rated both DOT and ECE and they have a lot of options outside of their marvel themes and what not. yea it can be corny but it does look dope if ur squidding and only riding street. also the shockwave is way better than any other system iv ever had in every aspect.
I have a Klim Carlsbad jacket, which us laminated Gore-Tex, and recently bought a pair of Alpinestars RT-8 GTX boots. I use them for commuting and work, and love them. Weather is unpredictable, most of the time it rains, some days don't. I would feel more discomfort carrying a whole set of rain gear all the time. I plan on buying a mesh jacket when summer hits, boots are great in hot and cold weather, wear them all day until I get home.
Waterproof is the same as the nine out of ten dentists agree.
I sprayed the silicone we get for work on my jacket and it was way more effective keeping me "dry". Water beading in front of my own eyes.
Gore tex is the standard for a reason. Skiers/Boarders, Hikers, Mountaineers, etc. all love it. I clock 50+ days skiing every season and know I'm getting reasonable water proofing when gore tex is there.
That being said - I definitely do not ride my motorcycle in the rain enough to care about waterproofing.
If you're one of the psychopaths that do, you should know that every season you should apply new waterproofing.
My carbon fiber Ruroc helmet actually relieves much of neck stress I got from my previous Agv K1. Agv makes full carbon fiber helmets but the price is double. I am not into the superhero thing but the Ruroc helmet looks like pretty solid and well-made. All liner and cushioning materials are in a pretty good quality. The customer service seems to be even better than Agv or Shoei. The visor seal got loose and flew off on highway one day and I emailed Ruroc. They immediately mailed me a new one with their branded T-shirt for free. 😂
I think you’re wrong about the HUD concept.
If done properly, it can be a great accessory.
Connect it to the blind spot radar, the dash to see warning lights, nav etc. and it can be a very useful tool.
Yes of course you can do without, but we've been riding without ABS or TC or many other tech that are now standard and we were fine, only now we do better.
Klim gear is worth every penny. They have jackets that are WAY under $1500. Like others have said, if you want to save even more buy clearance or display models. Klim's customer support is amazing. Lifetime warranty, basically if it CAN be repaired, they will repair it, if not they will work out a deal for a replacement. I've had a new pair of gloves sent as a replacement for something that couldn't be repaired, my wife had a 5 year old patch of velcro wear out that was replaced. I have a 6 year old jacket that has seen daily commuting in sun, rain and snow. Still keeps water out and isn't too hot in the humid southeast US summers.
The one carbon fiber upgrade I'd say is really noticable is carbon heel guards. They offer a way better feel and the way they flex is way more linear than steel or aluminium
Everything u said was 100 percent true ...good video ...new riders or experienced riders waste too much money when they could just be having fun
As an ADV guy, my sub 200 dollar Sedici jacket is top tier. Cooler than my perforated leather jacket, waterproof, hella pockets even one for a hydration bladder, armor, good protection rating. But I am looking at getting the Klim Krios Pro helmet so ya got me there 😭
I agree about how ALL waterproof/breathable membranes work to a degree. Unless the outer fabric has "wetted out" ("become filly saturated"), it still transpires (?) perspiration. And such membranes also are windproof which enhances comfort when the weather is cool or cold. I'll take the convenience and safety of my Aerostich R3 over any other textile gear available or the extreme inconvenience of carrying a rainsuit and having to stop to put it on and take it off as well as zero breathability (for most of what's available). Yes, when it's hot (90F+), nothing is particularly comfortable to wear but I'd rather have my skin intact then end up with major roadrash.
Have you ever owned a ruroc?....... I have, twice. The first one actually saved my life and the ONLY ONE issue I had with the helmets was that on occasion, very rarely, the connection for the Bluetooth with other riders sometimes lagged out. None the less sound was great, padding was great, 9/10 times id be using the Bluetooth personally just for music which always worked without a problem.
Hey, I agree with 90% of your vid but... there was a great HUD company NUVIZ that I found REALLY great. Shame they failed but the HUD unit I have was really cool and SAVED me on my first US motocycle trip. I understand your ideas in this vid but I actually liked helmut hud idea.
A heads up display makes a lot of sense to me like I've seen a fair many of videos of a biker looking away for a millisecond. Then boom rear ends a car. Having your Speedo and gps on a heads up display makes sense. Am I wrong for thinking of that?
Gore tex is a compromise, as everything is, but it is really impressive to this day. I still use my 1991 us army issue jacket regularly, and it still works great. It has remained waterproof, but not unbearably hot when it's dry out when hiking. To be fair, it has extensive venting, that can be closed by rugged zippers when it starts to rain. For an older guy like myself, goretex still remains a selling point.
I actually see a value in the heads-up display idea itself. For newer riders if they made it cheaper it would make it easier for newer riders to get into and learn the ropes without the need to take the eyes of the road. Plus a transparent map display is not the worst and makes it much easier to know when you must turn and you don't have to remove your eyes from the road. For newer riders it is valuable since it lets them learn balance and the other fundamentals of biking without having to remove as much attention from the road and therefore increases their awareness. Though you may see it as annoying others may see it as a potentially valuable concept because when you are riding situational awareness is incredibly valuable and it is best that new riders be given an option that lets them learn this without causing more risk to their lives than necessary, a rear facing camera on some also provides valuable information without you need to look at your mirrors. We are in a day and age where things must adapt to increase your safety and if they can make these helmets with good working heads-up displays and rear facing cameras that is something that needs to be invested in, simply cars are becoming bigger and faster, as well as more dangerous to bikers meaning the bikers need to get ahead of the curve and improve on safety and situational awareness.
When I was active duty in the USMC, I loved our Gore-Tex rain gear, but it was only used when it was raining.
Thanks for teaching me about Ruroc - a helmet brand I've never heard of and would have never looked into buying, lol
The nice thing about Klim is North American sizing. Euro brands tend to run a bit small, even with glove sizes. For a good alternative to Klim, have a look at MSR gear. It's available at Rocky Mountain ATV. It's Klim quality at 1/2 - 2/3 the price.
My biggest concern with airbag vests or suits is the ability to refill them your self. Some you have to send into the manufacturer after every crash. My Helite, which happens to be tethered, saved me in my first race of the day. It was an almost high side that bucked me off the inside of the bike. I was able to stick a new canister in there and ride the next race and hour later.
Imo gore-tex is worth it mostly in gloves. Not in the middle of a hot summer but in spring/autumn conditions it works great. Nothing worse for me than cold and soggy gloves
I buy a helmet every few years when I return to Japan.
You can buy a Japanese carbon fiber helmet for around $350.
Of course, you can also buy Shoei and Arai helmets at low prices.
The big gear stores are often far from the train stations, but you can usually get there by bus.
If you are planning to visit Japan, why don't you go there?
I got a Nolan N60-6 cause they fit me better than every other helmet I tried and it fit the budget. it's approved for use on tracks in the UK, looks cool enough, comfortable, glasses/sunglasses friendly and I can't feel my headphones under the helmet so I can comfortable listen to music
I commented on a ruroc ad asking if they were Snell certified. Their response was that they were not because Snell isn't actually safer, they're just specific tests for high speeds...
This channel saved me from spending my money on ruroc. Thank you my goat Yammie. Got an AGV instead.
Hi Yammie, i do think Gore-Tex is useful for daily riders that live in a country where the weather is unpredictable like UK, but not necessarily the full gear.
Thank you from saving me from a huge pricy mistake! I was considering them next, dodged a road shaped bullet there!
I sort of understand the ADV gear addiction. I backpacked a bunch of the AT with a good friend who would weigh his gear to the gram and swap out to get it as low as possible. But he was packing with me, the slowest animal in the forest not mortally injured. But it was his hobby. He liked the ultralight stoves and calorie powders… ADV guys are just enjoying their hobby.
what do you think about Nolan helmets? I personally have the Nolan n-60 sport
the nice thing about Klim is the warranty, LVS you can pretty much send it back and get new gear
Honestly so glad i saw this video! About to get my first bike and currently acquiring gear, ruroc has been plastered all over my insta, facebook etc. and was probably gonna get 1, but not anymore!
But ruroc lowkey look the best. Love the extraordinary design on mine. For occasional road use with a Sena im absolutely happy. But the prices are crazy. Got a good deal with 280€
1:09 is a HJC Rapha 11 i think
Yep, I've got one and the Carnage one too
Bad montage...I saw it too😅
It is, I also have an RPHA 11 saw that straight away!
Aerodynamics and lightness / carbon fiber are both super nice.
Having a helmet that's quiet and doesn't make your head bobble is a must. Some helmets **look** like they would slip through the wind, but actually really suck to wear because your head is bobbling all over the place and you need earplugs to ride fast or you'll get tinnitus lol.
Carbon fiber isn't as important as that, but a lighter helmet is always a more comfortable helmet, especially when there's G forces involved. My first carbon helmet was just a Joe Rocket, but I liked it more than my many times more expensive Shoe just because it was so much unbelievably lighter. My neck would ache on long rides just from looking into corners or looking around at stoplights with my other helmets, but the carbon helmet is like wearing a ball cap. Huge difference. It doesn't even have to be exposed carbon either, but I think it looks cool.
Anything full face that passes the more strict euro standards is more than enough to keep you safe, then make sure it's light and look up reviews talking about wind noise (or lack there of)
Carbon helmet is definitely worth it. It shaved 200 grams off of the helmet. I used a normal Scorpion Exo-Tech, then bought a carbon one which did definitely feel slightly lighter. After that I bought an Evo-1400 carbon, which is even lighter. It makes a huge difference to comfort for me, especially on longer rides. Bonus point: It looks sick.
Sidenote: The carbon version of my helmet was not even €100 more expensive. It's a 350 euro helmet, which is not that expensive for the quality that Scorpion delivers.
I’ve recently had my little intro into biking. My great grandpa had this old 1969 bsa 650 lightning imported new. The damn thing hasn’t seen the road since 1974 and went through a house fire about 5 years ago. I was surprised when all I had to do was replace the tires, rebuild the carbs, and replace all the fluids and now the thing runs and drives. Took me 12 days to clean off all the ash by hand, no pressure washer to be seen, and actually get it to run which most of that was me waiting for parts. Pretty damn easy to work on except it was designed by the British so there’s a lot of quirks with it. Like the carbs can only be taken off and put back on if you go thread by thread on both nuts at the same time. Kind of weird. Or the fact that there are two manuals for it and both are for like 6 different years of bikes and don’t actually correspond to the bike I have. Or the fact you put oil in the oil tank and a check valve feeds oil to the crank but only when the bike is running so after an oil change you have to run the bike with no oil until it decides to put some in it. Or the fact the brakes are apart of the wheel so if you want to change those out you have to take off the wheel. I mean some of that might just be all bikes but seriously weird coming from a car background.
I live in the tropics where when it's rainy season it's rainy season. we wear regular chinese made raincoats that are equivalent of $10 for the rubberized ones. Sure it's hot to wear them but man up, it's not like you're going to be stuck wearing them for hours. and if you are, you aren't supposed to be in a motorcycle to begin with.