He is protected by the movie industry. A normal person would've been arrested and charged with murder. Who wants to go to prison if they know they could get away with negligent homicide?
Regardless of who pulled the trigger, there's still the issue of why the firearm wasn't checked by the armorer to ensure it was safe and how live rounds made it onto a movie set and into a gun in the first place.
That is the main question, and if you think about it, there was definitely something shady going on. How does one accidentally bring live rounds to a set? Unless intentional.
Not according to the guy Baldwin accidentally shot. The armor was responsible for arming the weapon and responsible for making sure it was loaded with either blanks or dummy rounds.
Yep, it's incumbent, yep, it's a golden rule, no, it's not the law. Alec is a victim here, and not liable for what happened. Quit trying to pin this on someone just because you don't like them personally
Woulda, coulda, shoulda…obviously, there are no do-overs in killings. Whether it was purposeful w/malice of forethought is something for NM state investigators to rule in/out. Second, I believe this vid captured what most likely happened in relation to Baldwin’s account. He lied. Third, foolishly narcissistic of him to do a tv interview, friendly or not (but I’m glad he did.) Whether he does prison time, we’ll have to wait and see. But, I’d be willing to bet he will be sued for all his worth and he will lose, regardless. I’m just curious if he had a previous relationship with the victim that soured and she threatened him. Has that been ruled out yet?
All attention seems to be focused on Baldwin and what he did or didn't do. Yet the BIG question seems to be buried inside the controversy. How the ding dong hell did a live round end up in the pistol to begin with?!
@@jerk5959 There are some reports that there was no target practice, that this was just a story to take attention off of the armorer or anyone else who had access to the gun.
@Walter Alter: *Irrelevant* - Baldwin didn't check the firearm, pointed it at someone, and fired it. Baldwin is responsible for the death of Halyna Hutchins. Period.
I've watched several explanations as to why Baldin's account was false, but this one is the clearest, most definitive demonstration. Thank you, Kevin! It's another reason I'm so glad I recently signed on with USCCA.
Agreed, this is an excellent demonstration and it covered some points I had questions about. In particular, about the manufacture of the replicas (which he says here they are 1:1) and any possible reasons why the gun could actually go off accidentally (worn hammer sear). Now, it's just a matter of what the investigation will find.
@@wanaraz It is not the actors that use them, it is done by professionals. Nobody is in front of the guns when they are used. For just 1 example, in the movie The Longriders there was a scene where a shootout occured between a posse and the James-Younger gang in a farmer's shack. When filming was finished and the shack was empty, live rounds were fired in it for effects. That is just as on the set as you can get. Plus, l can give you more examples.
@@johnharris8191 SAGAFTRA SAFETY BULLETIN #1 "LIVE AMMUNITION" IS NEVER TO BE USED NOR BROUGHT ONTO ANY STUDIO LOT OR STAGE. In those very special circumstances LIVE AMMUNITION may be used ONLY if the following criteria and special circumstances have been met. #3 This special use of LIVE AMMUNITION shall only be performed at a site that is suitable for the use of LIVE AMMUNITION ie Military, police, or private gun range, the deck of a vassal , or in an area deemed safe for this procedure.
I also was an army inspector, procurer, quality inspector of Army weapons and auxiliary items. There are procedures and safety controls and levels of certifications. Many steps can be compromised to accommodate schedules, time constraints. Procedures and safety controls are compromised at large and small companies. Quality inspections were sometimes pushed aside. Turnovers of people, misplacement of safety bulletins and last minute training all are contributors and/or impacts. Safety should be in capital letters and supprted by mngmnt throughout manufacturing, testing and inspections.
The truth in any statement can be found in history. I watched "The hunt for Red October" again last night, despite Baldwin being in it. I noticed that every time he is on camera with a gun in his hand, he has his finger on the trigger. I wonder if anyone has ever seen him on screen without his finger on the trigger? Habits like that are hard to break and I would expect that this behavior is probably ingrained in him as this is what Hollywood portrays. I'm going to guess that he wasn't even aware that his finger was on the trigger. It's just bad training which leads to irresponsible, dangerous behavior.
@@weldmachine yup! I see a few main questions 1. As you said, why was it loaded? (Treat every gun as if loaded) 2. Why was it pointing at someone? (Only point at something you intend to shoot) 3. Why was the trigger pulled? (Only pull the trigger once you have a target to shoot). Sounds like 3 of the 4 rules of firearms were not followed.
@@glukeFlywalker obviously in a movie you're going to pull the trigger if the script calls for it without intending to shoot someone. Hence the use of blanks. So you obviously can't follow all 4 rules when filming a movie or nobody would ever pull the trigger or point a gun at someone. The same rules can't apply when you're using a gun loaded with blanks for a movie. The rule that is most important in this case is make sure the gun isn't loaded with live rounds.
@penny neal Try it yourself. You won't be able to do the motion he was doing in the interview without your trigger finger doing that motion. It was a meaningless video by just another grifter attempting to make money on the tragedy that happened. I dont think that's what USCCA is doing because their channel is demonetized. Also Alec is a liar, it doesnt take an expert in anything to know that.
In his Liberalism mindset he didn't pull the trigger, however, the trigger with his finger in the trigger guard was already pulled. My question is, why were there live rounds.
@@CH-qf3kn it definitely sounds like some idiot was taking that gun off-set and using it for sport. Guns on movie sets are never supposed to leave the set and very few people are supposed to have access to them. Whoever brought the live ammo on set deserves a second degree murder charge but it doesn't sound like they've figured out who did it, hence why they are going after Baldwin since he's the second most responsible person for this tragedy since he was the one that pointed the weapon at the woman and pulled the trigger. Live rounds or not, if Baldwin would have followed standard gun safety protocols for movie sets, that woman would still be alive.
Question must be how did live round get loaded into the gun and who did that. Also surely an armourer would have presented gun on set and he /she should of supplied ammo as well.? Would that not be the case
Two points. One, you said he lied about not pointing the gun at her; he said in the interview that he didn’t point it at the camera. He said he aimed it slightly off, “in her direction “. Two, you said a gun can not go off on it’s own which is simply not true. We had several accidental discharges from dropping a gun, at a sheriff’s department who’s county seat is in the city where I was a city officer.
Long before Alec Baldwin was born, the gun safety rules were: ALWAYS treat EVERY gun as if it was loaded, and NEVER point a gun at ANYTHING or ANYONE that you do NOT intend to shoot. It may not have been Baldwin's JOB to check the gun, but it was his RESPONSIBILITY to check the gun. Alec was merely the LAST person in the chain to make sure that the gun was NOT loaded!!! Alec Baldwin did NOT check the gun to see if it was loaded and he pointed the gun at someone....... GUILTY! The only question is whether it is involuntary manslaughter or MURDER! Either way he should be behind bars.
Those rules are instructed/taught to people. They are not inherent knowledge. If he was not instructed on proper handling of firearms and relied on the expertise of an armourer then it falls on them or the studio.
@@F16_viper_pilot You are absolutely right, and maybe it might be worth mentioning that A.B. received 90 minutes of personal briefing from armorer H.G.-R.
@@mbogucki1 You're correct that gun safety rules have to be taught, but the onus is on Baldwin to get the training, not for someone else to foist it upon him.
Yes, alec isn’t telling the truth. He’s just starting to point fingers and blame someone else. He wasn’t even really crying. USCCA shows good videos. 👍🏽
While i agree and you are proba ly correct, we have to acknowledge the possibility of the gun failing. They will not release this info until after trial so we will have to wait and see. This is very unlikely, but we shouldnt do like the left and the msm and assume we know everything before the facts come out.
I just watched your video with Colion Noir in which, after going through a training scenario, he was convinced he had fired only three shots when he really fired eight. Noir trains regularly with real guns. If he was that confused after a training session that went well (everyone was perfectly safe), imagine the trauma Baldwin must've felt after killing someone with a gun he assumed was perfectly safe. One can imagine his memory of what happened at that moment could easily have been distorted by the tremendous shock and horror. Where his real error was, was in not checking the gun thoroughly before using it on set. Had he bothered to take the ten seconds it takes to open the cylinder and look at what was in it, he would've instantly known there was at least one live round in there. He didn't do that.
Actually, he wouldn't have...because he genuinely doesn't know that he's supposed to. In that situation, Alec Baldwin would be dead, the D.P. would be alive, and the armorer would be in jail.
I don't get it he is not responsible for loading the gun so why should he know how to handle it he's an actor the real question is who the idiot was that loaded that gun with live ammo that's the killer it doesn't really matter if he pulled the trigger or not unless he loaded the gun himself someone explain to me please
@@masel4578 because every person that picks up a gun, of any kind, for any reason, becomes personally responsible for it. The fact that he is (again WILLFULLY) gun ignorant doesn't give him a pass, nor does it make anyone else more responsible than him. People who know about guns don't wave them around without making ABSOLUTELY certain that they are completely safe. People who know about guns verify FOR THEMSELVES the status of a firearm, they do not take anyone else's word for it; and that is literally one of the very first rules of firearm safety. It takes nothing but willingness to learn the rules; but since Baldwin himself is so vehemently anti-gun, he just never bothered. And now it's come back to bite him on his ignorant ass...at the cost of an innocent life.
@@NCBikerBoy well I totally agree with what you're saying but I think legally speaking it doesn't matter because I don't think that there is an actual law that says you have to know how to handle a gun but yeah I understand what you're saying but also I don't think that every actor in every action movie checked their magazines in my opinion the one who loaded that gun and confirmed it was cold is responsible for this.
@@masel4578 That's not how it works. If I take a gun from you, don't verify that it's cleared and safe; then turn around and shoot someone, I AM HELD RESPONSIBLE, not you. I'm not suggesting that every actor that handles a firearm in a movie is gun savvy; but I am saying that most of them aren't so gun illiterate as to be waving a gun around, regardless of whether they've been told it's a "cold gun" or not. Also, whether "cold" or not, behaving the way he was with that firearm is unacceptable. On the set of the Matrix movies, how many firearm injuries were there? None, despite exponentially more gunplay. Why is that, do you think? Because firearm safety was observed to the letter, and most importantly, because the cast members (all of them) learned the rules, and followed them to the letter. 20+ years later, Keanu Reeves is effectively a competitive shooter, because he learned the basics back then; and then built onto those skills when preparing for the John Wick movies. I'm not sure I believe Baldwin was even told "cold gun", I believe he just assumed it was safe, since it was a "prop", and proceeded to act in a grossly unsafe manner. As far as the deadly round itself is concerned, I don't believe it was actually a full bullet; but in fact a fragment of a dummy round that was fired. A similar scenario is exactly what cost Brandon Lee his life while filming "The Crow". Every safety rule was followed, in that case; however a dislodged dummy bullet head got stuck in the gun, and was subsequently pushed out when the blank went off. All proper loading and unloading procedures were followed, so ultimately no one was to blame; and it was ruled exactly what it was: a fluke, tragic accident. The Baldwin shooting, by reason of the level of ignorance at play; was negligence, pure and simple. And that's not what defines an accident.
Yeah he straight up lied, he did pull the trigger! He needs to be responsible for his actions a real man would step up and face the music!!!!! Takes a man to admit he was wrong... Obviously Baldwin isn't a man.
Yeah, he lied.. it's kinda stupid that he avoids this admission.. I see what you're saying.. (He's trying to avoid partiall liability .. which makes sense .. would you want to possibly get sued because of someone elsed major error . ) However, he shouldn't have been given loaded live ammunition. It is not his fault. There was a major fuckup, and there should not have been ANY live ammo on set. This armorer was her first movie (her father was famous in the industry ... So there was some nepotism going on.) and admittedly she was in over her head. She's gonna be held liable and likely never work in that field again.
@@edwardhanna86 he's still at fault, no mater who hands you a firearm loaded or not you must check it and practice safety always! Never point it at anyone or anything you don't intend to destroy, Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to shoot and always be aware of what lies behind your target. Safety is paramount there are many parties responsible here ultimately it falls on the last person to verify what they are being handed.
It was obvious to anyone who knows anything about guns, etc., that he was lying and that he had to have pulled the trigger to fire the gun. Whether or not he intentionally tried tp harm is another issue, but he fired the gun at her period! Obvious questions include: why did they have live ammo on the set, why not a prop gun, why a fully functioning gun, and why didn't they have protocols in place to insure all prop weapons were safe for use on set?
He was relying on the left's ignorance of scary firearms to sway public opinion. If you imagine an angry Baldwin describing the incident (many videos of angry Baldwin online if an aid is needed) instead of calm Baldwin, it makes sense what happened. He was tired of filming, wanted to be home instead, mad that the crew walked out that day, was taking direction from a cinematographer which was insulting to his ego for something that most likely wasn't going to be used in the film. Given that scenario I believe angry Baldwin intentionally aimed and fired. It was probably meant to scare the cinematographer if he believed blanks were loaded, intentional murder if he thought real ammo was loaded.
The weapon could be malfunctioning. If it isn't, he lied in an interview, but nothing happened to people that lie on national television. Adam Shiff does it, every president does it, every single intelligence agency employee does it, every politician does it, and every general does it, like Colin Powell.
Well in regards to "why not a prop gun" typically it is a lot cheaper and more realistic to just rent the actual thing and use dummy rounds as opposed to making or buying a genuinely convincing fake.
@@richardwicks4190 Technically it could have malfunctioned, but what are the chances that this malfunction just happened to occur when the gun contained a live round? What are the odds of that? The gun works just fine for all the time it's used the way its supposed to be used, but the one time it has a live round in it, that's when it fails to work as it should? I don't buy it.
@@TheStapleGunKid It could have been malfunctioning all along. It was explained HOW it could have. There would be physical evidence of it, if it had. I'm not defending Baldwin. It's the HEIGHT of stupidity to be handling even a FAKE weapon without having training in gun safety. Any weapons on set should have been TRUE prop guns. No live ammo should EVER be on set. He didn't know how to clear the weapon either. I think Baldwin should go to prison. I know what happened to Brandon Lee. The weapon was loaded with bullet with the primer and propellant removed. The bullet fell out of the casing, and the same gun was loaded with a blank, that didn't have a bullet, but had the primer and the propellant. Now, I can understand how THAT accident happened, and that was an awful accident, but it was an accident. This case at least is 3 layers of negligence. Here's Baldwin shooting his stupid mouth off about the evils of guns, and he just killed somebody because he couldn't take 10 minutes to get a basic understanding of gun safety. 1) always verify the gun is unloaded. 2) never point the gun at something you're not willing to put a bullet in. 3) assume the gun can fire off at any moment. 4) even after you've verified the gun is unloaded assume you've made an error and it is loaded 5) don't trust anybody not to make an error when they say "this gun isn't loaded". 6) don't rest your finger on the trigger, and assume that no matter what precautions you've taken, when you pull the trigger, it's going to fire a bullet. Takes 10 minutes to memorize that. Baldwin has been doing acting for years with guns. It's professional incompetence that killed that director. If we had a functioning judicial system he would be going to jail - but he's not going to jail. It's entirely HIS FAULT that director is dead. He killed her. It's entirely his responsibility.
Basic stuff: open the chamber, in this case, swing the cylinder of the revolver open and inspect the 5-6 chambers. Are there any rounds in the gun? If it's a semi-auto pistol, slide the magazine out and rack the slide back. If there are no rounds present in the magazine or were ejected from the chamber, the gun is not loaded. Even when a gun is NOT loaded, NEVER, EVER point it at a person. Any questions???
unless they show intent to harm you or anyone else. Then and only then is it ok to point the gun at them. Or a animal under the same actions and intent, ANY Questions
Big expert on firearms and their safe operation, Mr. I hate guns because I'm a Leftist Hollywood big shot who remains clueless about most things... Well Look at that... Not good, not good looks like you just murdered someone with a firearm there Alec buddy. Turn in your Democrat I.D. card right now! Also, being an actor you would think you would understand the importance of at least acting shook up for killing somebody for Christ's sake.
WHAT?? You think he should admit he accidentally killed someone and go to jail for manslaughter? Of course he's not going to do that when hollywood is going to do whatever (and thats a lot) they can to make sure he isn't charged? The only way they will throw him under the bus is if they (hollywood) are facing some kind of charges for deadly, hazardous, work environment.
Are you serious? He can't do that. That would mean actually taking responsibility for his action! And you can't do that in Hollywood unless everyone in Hollywood suddenly comes out with a story about how "Alec Baldwin almost shot ME TOO."
We all know baldwin is lying, however, we do need to give him his rights of due process. There is a possibility, albeit small one, the gun was in disrepair as you suggested, which would ve easily proven and will come out in court. Aside from that, he pulled the trigger. The armorer needs to face charges as well for the live ammo issue.
Yes, he gets and deserves due process, BUT, that small possibility you cite does not relieve him of ultimate responsibility for the tragic outcome. He had the BASIC firearm safety responsibility to: 1. Check the allegedly "empty" firearm when it was given to him, and 2. NOT TO POINT THE GUN AT ANYTHING THAT HE DIDN'T WANT TO SHOOT! He is an activist clown that obviously chose NOT to learn or practice basic firearm safety in spite of handling many firearms for his job over the decades of his career. The armorer is certainly negligent also, as was anyone (assistant director) who reportedly handled the Pietta directly before handling it to him. Also, that begs the issue of why ANY live ammo was anywhere on the set. Baldwin was also the producer and ultimately responsible for ensuring that was the case. -An experienced single action competitive shooter and RO.
@@davidjaniec3838 totally agree. But i would say, i hate baldwin as much as the next gun guy, but he hired an armorer. The rules of gun safety do apply, to guns. I wouldnt assume that was a real gun and maybe he didnt eother. I had no idea real guns and ammo were used on sets. They dont even use real ice cubes or real paper grocery bags on movie sets. Again, the fact will come out, but applying range safety rules to a movie set isnt, or atleast shouldnt, apply really. How in the world real ammo was there is beyond me, but he holds responsibility for that as a producer. Ultimately he hold some responsibility, but this is more complicated than me just picking up a 45 and pointing it at you and saying i didnt pull the trugger. You are mostly correct tho.
@@davidjaniec3838 also consider this. Your rule 1, check the gun is unloaded. Well, in a movie it would need blanks, and in a revolver some type of ammo looking thing the would make the visible chambers look loaded. Kinda different from the range. Your rule 2, in movies they point guns at each other all the time. Litterally every single movie ever made with a gun in it. See the difference from range rules. Your rulws are correct and the ones we all live by, we just dont film movies lol. Again lets wait for the facts.
For those who might be overly fearful of firearms being dangerous, it's important to note the Baldwin didn't just violate one or even two basic safety rules for handling firearms, he violated ALL of the basics. If he had enough sense to follow Any of them, as a parent could expect from their average ten year old, then a woman would still be alive today.
@@beardedbomber9862 My dad trusted me, with his strict supervision, to handle the single shot .22 rifle he had cut down to fit me at age 7. I was never allowed to touch that or any gun until he knew gun safety was in-bedded in my mind! As for trusting according to age, obviously that didn't matter in Baldwin's case. There can be no doubt there are 10 year olds out there who are much more gun safety wise than this turkey.
@@beardedbomber9862 You are supposed to earn that kind of trust. I wasn't allowed to learn how to shoot as a kid until I had a track record of being moral and ethical, on top of knowing the basics of gun safety.
@@beardedbomber9862 you mean the one with the ozzie? I know of that one.. And ther was no reason to let her shot that by her self with out assistance holding it with her. And even then its still uncontrolable.
Why are they trying so hard to charge everyone except, the ARMORER! It was her job to secure weapons and make sure they were safe, and it's obvious that she didn't!
@@australian8579 The interview is out now. Watch the whole thing. About 26 minutes in she's babbling on about how bullets work like she's talking to a dog. How the "nipple bit at the end comes out" (talking about the bullet). It's insane! At one point she pulls a load of dummy rounds out of her dirty pocket and dumps them on the desk of the police interview. I'm not even joking! She's a sulky teenager with permanent vocal fry. Every second word is "like" No joke.
The Armorer Hannah Reed was NOT notified by Baldwin who is the co-producer. Baldwin decided not to inform the armorer before this impromptu scene of his with a LIVE firearm smh. The investigation into it says she was not given adequate time to do her job. She's off the hook.
I see your point but any prosecutor could say that Alec could have knowingly put bullets in the gun any time after it was handed to him so that he could shoot someone and blame it on the armorer. The person with the weapon is at fault.
I remember reading in my local paper that a witness testified that the "Gun expert" told Mr. Baldwin the phrase, "Cold Weapon" as he handed him the gun, it's my understanding that THAT phrase means the weapon is safe for use for that scene. That actually takes the murder charge off the table as, in Mr. Baldwin's mind, he thought there was no danger of him pointing the weapon as the script directs him to do. But in my military training, when one is issued one's weapon, the first thing you do is check to ensure the weapon is clear. For a Soldier, that means NO ROUND is in the chamber, but this is about a civilian movie set, so even if Mr. Baldwin had checked the weapon, (pretty sure this was a western revolver), he cannot actually remove the bullets to ensure they were blanks, because if he HAD DONE so, he could've been accused of replacing them with a live round in the gun, (and that's assuming he's trained to know the difference between a live round and a blank). That means the final safety check MUST be done by the "Safety expert" for that movie. This is just my opinion trying to follow a logical train of thought regarding safety.
His memory might have created a false narrative. He may truly believe his finger wasn't on the trigger, but in actual reality it was. He doesn't want to be blamed or feel responsible for taking someone's life.
Regarding 6:34 versus 3:24, Alex Baldwin said he did not pull the trigger. However if Alec Baldwin's finger was already resting on the trigger when his thumb released the cocked hammer, then it would have fired the fatal shot which was what happened. Therefore Alec Baldwin was trying to be clever by saying that he did not "pull" the trigger since his finger was already resting on the trigger when he let go of the cocked hammer. Nevertheless his finger should have never been inside of the trigger guard. Furthermore another implausible statement from Alec Baldwin was when he told George Stephanopoulos in his televised interview on ABC News, "The notion that there was a live round in that gun did not dawn on me until probably 45 minutes to an hour later." That was absurd, because as soon as his revolver fired and the loud bang of the explosion as well as the recoil jolt of the gun in his hand would have immediately let him know that he had shot Halyna Hutchins as she collapsed and later died on October 21, 2021.
When doing a western movie and with revolvers and true to the time period nobody draw their revolvers with the trigger finger laying outside and above the trigger guard, very naturally the finger enters the trigger guard and press onto the trigger for a quick life or death shot. Alec apparently had his trigger finger inside the trigger guard when he drew the revolver and when he released the hammer at full cocked position the revolver fired because the trigger had already been pressed. This was totally gross negligent and disrespect of gun handling safety. And hell yes Alec should and will be responsible for taking a life and wounding another.
I'm guessing he had his finger pinning the trigger back as he cocked it and then when he released the hammer it fired. So in his mind he didn't actually pull the trigger. It was already pinned to the rear so no separate action was required.
Yes that mistake coupled with the fact he was pointing at someone even though he was told the gun was "cold" THEN we get to the question of WHERE did a live round come from?
He specifically said he never had his finger on the trigger. He is 100% lieing, just another leftists unwilling and unable to take responsibility for their own actions.
That’s what I was thinking. If the trigger was initially pinned against the rear of the trigger guard as you suggested, what happens to the hammer when it is then moved 1/8 inch back? Half cocked? I realize that with the hammer fully cocked and the trigger already pulled back that the gun will consequently fire the round.
@@josephcremeans I didn't watch the interview - did he really say that he never had his finger on the trigger? All I read is that he said he never pulled the trigger. Slight difference.
When I heard of this tragedy my first thought was, the only way it could go off without his finger on the trigger was if the part you mentioned in this video worn, or had been ground down on purpose. What makes me suspicious is; if they were just setting up the shot, why were there rounds in the pistol? Especially live ones?
I was thinking the same. As incompetent as it appears the armorer was, I wouldn't put it past them to modify it. If they didn't modify it, then they would have been negligent for allowing a defective firearm on the set.
its all pretty sketchy, there had already been 2 other accidental discharges on set by that point, and many of the staff had walked out and was on strike that day due to safety reasons
I don't understand why Alec Baldwin is being accused of shot that woman. Shouldn't it be the responsibility of person in charge of those guns. Who brought live bullet on set?
The most dangerous gun is the gun that the one the holder believes is "safe" i.e. unloaded. One of the most basic principles of clearing a firearm is to point the gun in a safe direction, and then clear or proceed to make the gun safe. No one is asking - why would you keep the gun pointed at someone else while lowering the hammer, which happens to be one of the most dangerous actions performed by those using any revolver ? I can only think of ONE reason to keep the firearm pointed at someone else while attempting to lower the hammer, which is his latest story. That is - you would keep it pointed at that other person SIMPLY because you want to intimidate that other person. As far as Alec Baldwin being a newb; well, he's been handling firearms of many sorts over the past few decades, to say he's should be absolved because < insert whatever excuse you like here > is ridiculous. Any other regular person in the US would be already charged if they intentionally pointed a firearm at someone else, regardless of or if they pulled the trigger and the projectile injured or killed someone else. Many have gone to jail or prison for EVEN less than that. Alec has changed his story so many times, it's beyond ridiculous. That too would be grounds for most DA's to put the perp behind bars and in front of a judge and jury.
I think it was murder. I get to choose between that and just clownish levels of mass incompetence and negligence, and murder simply seems more plausible to me.
@@politicallycorrectredskin796 Can an action occur from subconscious impulses ? Did he 'unintentionally ' pull the trigger ? Because his explanation is physically impossible, an obvious lie to anyone familiar with SA Colt Army revolvers. This could be ' the perfect murder '..A B is lying like a rug..minimizing his accountability..passing the buck to the Armoror..who everyone knew was overworked and sometimes sloppy with firearms on set.. The perfect ' fall girl ' for his act ?
That's the biggest problem I have with these video's by many people on TH-cam. They are telling people it's impossible for a gun to go off without pulling the trigger and having no discussion about gun safety and why it's important to treat every single firearm like it will. It's not about if he pulled the trigger, in the end it doesn't really matter unless the people prosecuting him think he planned her murder. He was negligent in his hiring of the armourer, he was negligent in his handling of the gun, the armourer was negligent and underqualified and allowed conditions on set to become unsafe. That's what matters but everyone is anxious to tell billions around the world that it's perfectly fine to point a gun at people because it's impossible for it to go off if you don't pull the trigger. It doesn't matter that this isn't the message they intend to send out, that's the message that's getting to people. Nobody should be having this discussion without first listing gun safety procedures. They should also point out that even if there is a problem with the gun and Baldwin didn't pull the trigger, if he followed proper safety procedures with the gun, nobody would have gotten hurt. The people on these channels including this one are violating rule #1 for anyone who teaches gun safety. This video needs to be taken down and done again with actually having a brief talk about procedures and why they are important.
He also said in his interview that he didn't know he shot anyone for ~45 minutes...and that was after explaining how he was trained to "create" recoil when filming because there's not enough kick unless there's a live-round. And so he fired a live-round, but somehow didn't realize he hurled a ~230grain bullet and hit two people, and didn't realize it immediately, and was gripping it tightly enough to not have it fly back into his face but wasn't expecting to shoot? Um, ok...he incriminated himself with his description of getting training about the recoil and exaggerating it with dummy-rounds. Good job!
Yeah, don't they also have slightly cooler loaded blanks than training blanks because they don't have ear protection on set? Ill look up, but i think they do because I can guarantee that actors are going to complain about hearing damage. If they do, then that would only add to your argument. Not only is the specified blank supposed to have significantly less recoil due to not having a projectile, but they also wouldn't even have as much noise as a real cartridge.
@@johnstrickland3933 keep in mind it's not 45 acp, it's 45 long Colt. If I'm not mistaken it's one of those cases where it was originally black powder (weaker, dirtier and lower pressure with a faster burn rate) and was later made in smokeless. (slower burn rate but higher pressures and a LOT less fowling) Funny thing is: the BLACK POWDER cartridge flippy as hell for it's day, and now it's smokeless? Needless to say it's gonna have a LOT of kick. Not 50AE or 500S&W but still pretty jarring especially for someone like Alec Baldwin who actively avoids firearms.
According to AB, he didn’t have his finger on the trigger and his thumb slipped from the hammer, so he was holding the gun with only three fingers when it went off unexpectedly. It strains credulity that he maintained control of the weapon let alone that he didn’t even know he shot her.
In all my experiences with firearms a person who hasn’t had proper training or any training at all has a natural urge to place their finger inside the trigger guard. They almost never realize that they are doing it until it’s pointed out to them.
From what I can gather if you minorly depress the trigger like he might do without knowledge like ie: pulling it out of pocket during set trying to get a shot in the film he can by pass the sear on the pistol atleast from other videos I've watched I'm not entirely sure though
People like you make me sick, he is an actor and doesn’t deal with guns especially guns with full rounds. The guy was in tears and then there’s someone like you who comes around and wants to make everybody believe he did it intentionally. If you ever been put in his position? All of you gun toting lunatics want to always come up with some ridiculous reason why something happened. This is no more than a conspiracy theory. Why don’t you stay off the Internet spreading lies that you know nothing about. You were not there you don’t know who handled the gun before him you don’t know anything about the situation yeah you want to go on the Internet and tell thousands of people stories to make it look like he did this on purpose. Don’t you think he’s hurting bad enough. Sometimes you’ve gun toting fanatics need to just stop and keep it to yourself
If our lives hang in the balance when we are handling firearms, so should the elites. It’s a huge responsibility every time you pick up a firearm. It is YOUR responsibility to ensure it is safe. Consequences are needed for the idiot who caused this innocent person to die
If I go to a gun range as a novice its the range officers responsibility to make sure the firearm is safe and to instruct me how to use is properly. That is what I paid for. If they hand me a firearm and say its safe or unloaded why should I doubt them? And how am I supposed to know how to make it safe? Same thing applies here. Baldwin relied on the expertise of the armourer. Liability is with them.
@@mbogucki1 A range officer is not there to instruct, but to enforce safe gun handling. That is what you are paying for. If you want instruction take a gun safety class.
The gun in question can be disassembled and examined under a microscope on the key parts. His interview was an attenpt to sway the jury but unfortunately, his attorney should harve warned him to keep his mouth shut as these mechanical devices, like the single action revolver, are easy to prove. Lying about it still will not change facts on how it operates!!!
The open question is whether that gun had been modified to be a prop gun. Pulling the hammer back and having it stop part way….does not look very “cinematic”. Prop guns are often modified to “slip guns.” Which will fire when when the hammer is released.
The same gun the killed the cinematographer was used for plinking around after hours so there is nothing wrong with the gun. It was fully functional and in proper working order.
I hope that the forensics team is professional and skilled enough to determine whether the firearm in question was in good repair, properly functioning, or modified as to functioning differently from a stock firearm of this make and model.
The irony is so thick on this one. Alec being such a pita to law abiding gun owners. Now its exactly them who hold Alecs fait with real knowledge like this video. Priceless.
I think it was his lack of gun comfort that contributed to his rushed and sloppy handling/safety which along with the mystery bullet resulted in a death.
I think you meant to spell "fate", however on a positive note, if you were French then you would have spelled it correctly!!! Also, the live round got on that set, by someone's human hand, the question is, who was that someone??
@@user-hd1qx2bd1r Your right, I'm not French. But If I did have any French in me I would hope that it would own the smallest percentage. No matter how people want to spin this, its the person who pulled the trigger that is responsible. Alec can and has blamed everyone but himself, but at the end of the day he pulled the trigger.
@@brockisoverrated CC, Come on! use that un french brain of yours, LOL, Inspector Clouseau, there's absolutely no sense or gain, in him doing this, absolutely NO motive to do this. Give me a break! Somebody set him up (and really well) so that there's no leads! It was professionally set-up because who ever did it, made sure everybody on the set, either touched or had something to do with the murder weapon, and that makes everybody a suspect!!! It's going to take one amazing Detective, to uncover this well thought-out murder. This was no rookie murderer, whoever planned this, even understood how it would look when, and as, the News would portray it out to the Public. Gotta be Organized Crime, because they have lots of experienced lifetime guys in the murder racket. Better believe it. I don't know why they've done this to Baldwin, but whatever Baldwin did, This Murder Set-Up was done to #1 Go after him specifically, on the Movie Set, and maybe more incriminatingly important, It's a Message to the Movie Industry. Murdering just Baldwin in his usual life, alone somewhere would have been very easy and quiet, indeed for a Professional killer, because Baldwin wouldn't have even known it was coming, totally easy routine Target, for a Pro. #2 Whoever did this, wins two (2) ways because they now have ruined Baldwins life forever even whether he's found guilty or not, AND they've sent a HUGE Lovely message to ALL others in the Movie Industry, This same thing can happen just as easily to you too! DON'T DO WHAT BALDWIN DID. The United States has a long, long history of never finding, especially important peoples, killers. The whole United States Police forces, never found John Kennedy's killers, and they've also never found Martin Luther King's killers either. Probably the two most prominent figures in the world at that time, especially in United States, and both Murders remain 55 years on, unsolved.
I loved how George Stefenofolis shook his liberal head in agreement when Baldwin was telling his story. Im not a gun guy but even I know basic mechanics of a hand gun.
what we saw was the final cut. I'd love to see the uncut video, all the scripts and takes as they were examined by the attorneys present. I bet it cost thousands just to make this short clip......
@@tedk2814 At the very end of the video, I believe I saw it was produced by George Stephanopoulos Productions. Additionally, wasn't the interview (show) billed as "unscripted"? Oh sure!
Of course he said he didn't pull the trigger. He was in denial, he didn't want to admit that he had, and the horrific outcome that followed. Should he be on trial for the woman's unaliving. No! Because it's not the actor's responsibility to ensure that the gun given to them for a scene is cold or "safe". Many actors are not familiar with firearms and only know what they've been told. It was the Armorer and the Assistant Director's responsibility to ensure the gun was safe. Why did the Armorer have live ammunition mixed in with the dummy rounds? Why didn't the assistant director make sure all the rounds were either dummies or at least blanks? Why did the assistant director call cold gun on set when he had not actually checked it himself. Why was Baldwin charged let alone tried for doing what actors do? Rehearse a scene. Was this trial politically motivated. Maybe, Baldwin has been on SNL portraying Trump in a less than complimentary manner? Yes. Does Trump hate Baldwin? Yes. Is the prosecutor a Trump supporter? I don't know. Is it possible that the prosecutor was trying to "get" Baldwin for his past portrayals of Trump? Could be.
Great video! I also noticed that he deliberately talks about her agreement with his actions. As though she agreed to have the gun pointed directly at her while he manipulates its functions. I'm disgusted with it because it will be used to say she accepted the risk of being shot and killed. He's lying about pulling the trigger with the muzzle aimed at her body so there's no reason to believe he's being honest about her agreeing to it multiple times as it was happening. Heartless!
@@adamgardener8624 yeah murder, check out the penalties for someone dying in a negligent discharge of a weapon it can come from felony to 3rd degree and in some cases you'll find 2nd degree murder. It doesn't matter who loaded the weapon, as soon as a gun is in your hands it is your responsibility to check it and treat it always as if loaded. He should have known the basic rules of firearm safety before getting real guns into that set. Well even better he should have never brought real life guns into that set. Plus he was the producer so he can't pass the blame up cause it would fall back on him, also the rookie armorer he employed.
@@rainchazzer6308 Imagine people getting away with the Baldwin defense which is he didn't load the gun and didn't pull the trigger. An ordinary person would be in jail.
I've had some experience with pyrotechnics, including a few movie shoots. The movie pyro guys were always the most terrifying and required the most scrutiny. He's either a liar, or the gun was modified in some bs manner, or whatever...bottom line is sloppy sloppy sloppy incompetence and now someone is dead. 1,000,000% absolutely avoidable, foreseeable, and jail time is called for.
@@chuckles3265 The better question is whether those filming movies have experience with firearms. I have 60 years of firearm experience and have never shot anything I didn't intend to. Also. I've never killed or injured anyone with a camara either.
@@michaelschneider6106 that is the better question. Baldwin was not the firearms expert. There were "experts" on set. This Baldwin witch-hunt is political.
He didn't say "I didn't have my finger on the trigger" he said "I never pulled the trigger" ... Which we both know it doesn't take much tension on the trigger for hammer release.
Alec Baldwin has acted in movies with firearms for something like 40 years... he has been through procedures with countless armorers, and he knows very well how things work :)
I 1,000% agree with you. You also know he's lying when he thought she may have passed out for 45 minutes to an hour. That is a bold-faced lie you shoot someone at close range with a 45 you immediately know what happened. Let alone the other man that got shot as well would have rang out with oh my God you just shot us.
Like you said, a full examination of the gun by an independent professional gun smith would definitely determine if the gun had an issue. ( lack of, or poor maintenance ) Based on those findings one could then be confident that Mr Baldwin is not describing the incident truthfully. Regardless, why was there live ammunition on location in the first place. Many factors added up to make this a bad scene.
@@endermata1952 Many things Alec said in his interview spoke volumes but his implying he essentially ending up aiming at the producer (which he must have done at some point), at the instruction of the producer, supposedly (that's what he said), is bonkers and ridiculously irresponsible. "Oh btw, you've got me aiming at you now btw, just so you know" - or.. "I cant aim there, that would be aiming at you". All whilst he proceeded to fiddle with pulling back the hammer (with his finger on the trigger it seems). I guess she didn't notice since she was watching her producer screen and not him.
@Jacob Craven Fair points, though that theory as to how it went off if the gun was somehow faulty is yet to be proven which presumably is then the responsibility of the armour? Granted this sounds like a tragic accident but there seems to be a chain of issues, reports of misfires earlier in the filming and each not taking what they're using seriously and the gravity of the "what if" scenario of something going wrong. I believe the lady who got shot was also the co-producer? Or director? (and cinematographer, ok). Regardless she was directing him at that moment and all were presuming the gun was "cold" as he said but he never checked it himself which sounds risky to me given he was put in charge of it at that time. No doubt the whole tragedy and how it happened so it can't ever happen again will be investigated fully.
@Jacob Craven I'm actually from the UK and we're not allowed to own firearms (well you can but have to jump through infinite hoops) but what is the law when you're using a gun that's not registered to you (given these prop guns seem to have identical capability as the real ones, using blanks or real bullets)? What does the law say in the US in respects to using a gun not registered to you and who is therefore responsible?
You can’t dismiss the possibility he put a bullet in the gun! Sure it’s almost an old Columbia plot but if we didn’t know it was a famous star, we’d be thinking all these possibilities. I’m sure the cops are.
Had he just owned up to his negligence like a man id feel a bit different. The fact that he is trying to weasel his way out of this after years of supporting anti gun BS makes me say let him have it. I want him to say that under oath and watch him catch extra charges for perjury.
Fun fact: He probably actually believes that he did not pull the trigger. When you go through a traumatic experience like that, it's very common for a person to not be able to properly recollect how it happened. It's called "Memory distortion for Traumatic events" and is a very common symptom of PTSD.
The similarities between Baldwin and Smollett are striking from the context that they do something incredibly stupid - then just double-down with lying. The fact that both also hated Trump is telling.
I know he's lying because during this interview his "recollection" of the events changed since his initial statements on the incident. Originally he said he was practicing drawing it and dry firing it at the camera, but it wasn't supposed to be loaded.
He's had three stories so far; two before he hired lawyers and this one after his lawyers started working. Each time he goes public he provides more evidence. May the truth prevail and justice be served.
@@gregflores8959 What he did was using a gun that was supposed to be safe. The man is an actor, not a gun hobbyist. The armorers are responsible for the weapons, not the actors.
@@juslitor so by your definition that means nobody should be prosecuted for firing a gun and shooting someone with a gun they didn't know was loaded. And getting charged with neglagent homicide.
To be fair memory is a funny thing and you'll find your recollection of events changes each time BUT I still do believe he's full of it. Don't see why he's not facing charges of man slaughter or similar.
Thank you for being clear about the possibility of the hammer being so worn that it could have still fired. A SAA could fire if the hammer was cocked back and forcefully hit (which is why they always say load 5 never 6) or if the hammer is really worn. I think Baldwin is an idiot but it’s also important to tell people the entire truth.
I've always understood the "Load 5 never 6" to be so that the firing pin on the old revolvers was never sitting directly on a primer. If that's the case, it would not have mattered because the next cylinder (when it rotated by pulling back the hammer) would have a round in it. The simple truth is that 3 people (the weapon master, the director and the actor) did not properly check it before filming the scene. Once so checked, it should NEVER leave the actor's hands until the scene is fully filmed and the firearm ready to be stored. I was on a movie set one time and all of the firearms we used were rubber dummies. Very realistic ones, but non firing rubber ones. Funny thing is...I thought ALL movie prop guns were made so that they could NEVER fire a live round...something about the type of blank and a restricted barrel to avoid EXACTLY this type of incident. I guess I was wrong.
If the armorer had been doing the job she was hired to do (if she knew how, of course), she would have verified that the weapons on set had all been properly taken apart, inspected, cleaned, reassembled, oiled, checked out for proper operation, and were ready for use on the set -- and that only blanks were the only ammo near any of those small arms on the set. That's an armorer's job! If the hammer was "so worn that it could have still fired," that condition would not just suddenly appear one day out of thin air. It would have become apparent when she was cleaning and prepping the gun for use in the movie. It's like driving with "bald" (sorry, AB) tires. Tires aren't "good" one day and "really worn" and bald the next. If you take a moment to look at them and you see that the tread is mostly gone, you know you've got a problem -- before you begin that road trip and get a flat or, worse, get into a crash. In Vietnam, I used World War II era .45 Colt semi-auto pistols, Smith & Wesson military model six shooters (probably older than WW II), M1/M2 carbines, and Thompson submachine guns, in addition to more modern M16s and 12-gauge pump shotguns -- and even M79 grenade launchers. We had a real vintage gun collection in the Seabees ("can do!"). All the WW II era weapons were well worn, but by taking them down, inspecting them carefully, cleaning and oiling them, reassembling them, and trying them out, they still worked just as well as they did decades earlier. The entire truth. This is after some of them had fired hundreds or even thousands of rounds before I handled them. A "really worn hammer" would have shown up wayyyy before AB took hold of that pistol. Someone needs to get hold of the actual handgun AB used that day and have a qualified armorer do an analysis. If the hammer was "really worn" so that it would not work correctly, well, it just wasn't the "well-oiled" set that AB claimed he was running after the shooting proved it wasn't.
I have seen single action pistol go off if the cocked hammer is "bumped" once the hammer has been pulled back. NOTE this ONLY happened on a worn mechanism that was not safe to be using anyway. Point is for me, pulled trigger or failed mechanism is beside the point. That gun should NEVER have even been cocked, especially as Baldwin never cleared it when he picked it up.
I grew up with single actions because that’s what Dad had. I learned this lesson early on. Excellent explanation, especially addressing the proper condition of the hammer.
They don't play videos as expert testimony (which is what this would be). But they could call Kevin Michalowski as an expert witness to the stand and he could state all of that again during the trial. This allows the defense to cross-examine him too. But in reality, anyone who knows anything about firearms would give the same testimony so the odds they would call Mr. Michalowski is pretty low.
"unless he was holding the trigger" That ties in with explanation of another capability of this Colt revolver. Others are saying & demonstrating this. One is youtube Popcorn Planet. Baldwin has years of gun involvement in his movie roles. Ignored requirement of gun safety protocols, well distributed &accessed. Is this "You can't make a horse drink it'? Was even beckoned to have safety classes by G'Reed. Which she prob. needed also, by the mere fact she accepted sharing her Armorer role. Baldwin's Years of opportunity to learn & include safety, you have a responsibility to co-workers. Not luxury of 'one size fits all'. For ALL or both Politcal pursuasions need to acknowledge need to commit to learn & practice all safety protocols if you are to use guns. Arrogance, stubborness, self-serving, or your politics? If not willing to combine safety in your movie role then 'get out the way'. Of trouble. Give to someone else who does. I wonder if he was aware different ways gun can fire & was tempted to enact it. Too curious of its conclusion. Go to firing range to settle that. Not at a person.
@@peterpike .There are 2 variety of ways people are adamant this gun fires, circling youtube. Even demonstrating. Are they unaware they are perhaps handling a modified type Colt? Doubt it but pos. All could have been avoided if he'd accepted advice to take gun safety classes.
I agree with this video’s explanation 100%. Remember Baldwin is an professional actor and the interviews he has given is his best work yet to save his career. Any firearm a person shoots should be dry fired and given instruction by an experienced firearm owner or professional! Anyone who is handling a firearm is responsible by inspecting the firearm before shooting.
I know nothing about guns and have never seen one that wasnt on a policemans hip. I could not understand how it could be fired without pulling the trigger and felt there was much more to Baldwin's story Your explanation was fantastic Thankyou
You should go to a range some time just to experience it and the accompanying gun safety training you will receive from anyone there if you ask for help. Every single person on the planet who knows how guns work knows the guy is lying. Even if he wasn't they also know this was still only his fault. Not the armorer or anybody else. They may have been negligent too. But they didn't shoot anyone either. Baldwin did. Whenever you assume control of a gun, that gun is your responsibility. A lot of people miss that about this case. Anyways, I think you'd enjoy shooting at least once, so I definitely recommend it. If you're nervous about it before, you won't be by the time you leave. Guns are safe and fun once you learn the basic rules of it. You should respect them, but not fear them. It's people you should worry about, and they can kill you just fine without a gun. Particularly the gun grabbers.
@@politicallycorrectredskin796 thank you so much for reply. Where I live there are no gun ranges at all. I'm not in the USA but if I lived there I think it would be a great idea to take all your kind advice Thanks again.🤗
Exactly. Weird how people are acting like he showed up on set to kill this person. When in reality he showed up to work and then his life changed forever in a split second.
I worked in Hollywood briefly, did two movies with guns on set, we were so careful and I was happy to see how controlled it was. Baldwin's production failed miserably on many safety points. Here's what I saw on set I worked: 1. No gun went into the hand of an actor until 4 people verified it was unloaded (clearing chamber and dry firing); the actor, the prop master, a crewman (me several times), and an assistant director. Rubber guns were verified too. Prop master would often take the weapon between scenes and repeat the safety check every time it went back to the actor. 2. If a gun was to be pointed towards a camera, the camera operators were behind bullet proof glass, even if the gun was unloaded (or, the camera was setup, turned on, and the operators left the area). 3. Blank ammunition was verified by the prop masters and producers and then came to the set straight from the armorers and they would handle the guns when the cameras were off. 4. If someone was in the path of the barrel firing blanks on camera, it was 99% of the time a stuntperson with cleverly concealed body armor. 5. If shooting towards off camera, obviously no one was in the path of the barrel. 6. (bit of an extension of #1) Prop guns used in non-shooting scenes were often mechanically inoperable. No firing pin, no springs, etc.
@@gbolt111 production mistake is an obvious at this point...it not an actor job to know the gun is real or not...can't imagine when a cow boy actor point gun and pew pew came from his mouth...the prolong the suffering of the actor who did not know the gun was armed with live round
@@gbolt111 Guilty of shooting yes but guilty of killing is a no....all this can be avoided if the two suspect do their job...plus why would Alec want to kill film crew? when he pull the triggered as he was ordered to so in his job as an acdtor in western film which involve guns...plus he became an unintentional killer because two idiot does not do their job properly which make them the actual killer not the actor...just because he felt guilty does not make him the suspect or an actual killer...if you were in his shoe would you felt guilty on something that can be avoided if the people you trust to work with do their job completely?
Sounds to me like Alec Baldwin, most likely being a newbie to firearms, broke Rule 3 of basic firearms safety by having his index finger on the trigger (in this case with enough force to allow the hammer to drop when he let go of it). I believe that in his mind he truly believes he didn’t pull the trigger. It’s a lack of training. There’s a lot of blame to go around.
@@jimbutler1189 , not knowing how to safely handle a firearm is a lack of training. Handling a gun with your finger on the trigger when you aren’t intending to shoot violates one of the basic safety rules.
@@jimbutler1189 it absolutely was a lack of training. The only way this accident happens is if he violated all 4 laws of gun safety. That’s a single days worth of training to beat those laws into your head forever, but he didn’t, and STILL WON’T
You guys are in ERROR -- Alec is NOT A NEWBIE. He's well experienced with movie guns, real guns, prop guns. Don't be FOOLED BY THE MEDIA. Poor little dumb Alec.
I see actors mishandle firearms in movies all the time. They’re actors, not necessarily trained to properly handle firearms. In fact, they shouldn’t need to be. The weapons on set should be made safe for the scene at hand by hired weapon handlers. Regardless of Alec Baldwins memory of the incident, I’m curious to know why live ammunition was on set and in that firearm. He might be lying but it could also be a memory distortion. Trauma can do that to a person.
First and foremost. Alec is an actor. Take that into consideration when seeing his fake crying. Secondly. He's doing a great job of acting like he knows how a single action revolver works. This isn't just on him though. The whole production team is to blame for unsafe conditions. There is no excuse for negligence.
For this accident to have happened it doesn't require something somewhere to have gone wrong, it requires every parameters everywhere to have gone wrong. It's actually insane to think of all of the grave mistakes that had to be made for this to happen
A 24 year-old Armorer? Really? Oooh, she must know so much about firearms. Back in the day, your movie set armorers were retired military, if not retired Special Operations people.
he said he didn't "pull the trigger", not that he never had his finger on the trigger. also, i think people and alec are conflating "pull the trigger: to fire it" with "having the trigger pulled back". he probably had the trigger pulled already, then was pulling back the hammer and released, like you demonstrated. vs. he just pulled the trigger alone and it fired. so, he didn't pull the trigger to fire it. he had the trigger pulled back. also, it's possible to not point a gun intentionally directly at someone, but in pulling a trigger or hammer causes your hand/arm/aim to change, which could result in pointing it at someone directly.
We should probably not call him a liar until we know wether or not the gun was defective. I do believe that he cracked the hammer with his finger on the trigger.
None of that matters...He did not check the gun for dangerous rounds, and assumed it was safe when it was not. THAT is the point of guilt. Non-existent safety procedures on a set he is responsible for as the producer, and failing to qualify the gun's safety as the gun handler in the scene.
Could the trigger seer be worn out simultaneously do you think. It’s a long shot. I think he’s lying, personally. He definitely put his finger on the trigger somehow for sure.
@@fistfighter2652 If the tip of trigger/sear were indeed broken off, it surely should have been obvious the last time the armorer handled the firearm. Same for the leg of the trigger spring and the notches in the hammer, themselves. I've been shooting/carrying single action revolvers for over 20 years, and I've never had either of these happen to any of my guns. I've had the bolt leg of the spring break. I've had the bolt leg itself break. I've had a hand spring break, but never anything that could cause what Alec claims to have happened, to happen. Hopefully that gun is being closely examined and guarded so that we'll know for certain whether or not he is telling the truth.
@@bigrob6076 "sear" generically refers to whatever mechanical interlock surface which functions to hold the firing mechanism in the energized position. For a hammer fire weapon, this is what locks the hammer back against the hammer spring. For a striker fire weapon this is what holds the striker (firing pin) back against the striker spring.
I heard an attorney say that a single action firearm can get you in trouble... simply because the firearm takes intentional action to make it work.....really hard to fire a single action pistol accidently
The real problem is, who intentionally brought live ammunition rounds onto the set? Someone in the crew or outside of it, purposely loaded that gun, and that is who needs to be criminally charged. Of course, he/she/them, proved that producers had cut corners on safety protocols when guns are on a set, otherwise that gun would have never been pointed at a persons direction. Sure, Baldwin needs to be charged cuz cutting corners and hiring the cheapest cutest friend of a friend as the armorer, was producers mistake. Poor girl, she will never again have a future in film after that…. But a little jail time will also give her a chance to realize she was not ready to be on her own there
i think baldwin said he himself or a crew member was out live shooting the gun as target practice and im pretty sure baldwin said it was him. correct me if im wrong
I mean sure at the end of the day it’s the prop masters duty to make sure there’s no live ammo. But its also bald wins responsibility to be properly trained and practice proper gun safety. He should know what real bullets look like and should know to practice proper trigger discipline. I highly doubt that this would happen to people who take gun safety serious like Keanu reeves or Chris pine
@@codycurnutte7084 you’d be surprised.. in the army soldiers still have what we called accidental discharges. Even after clearing their weapon with someone else also viewing it and having a discharge… sometimes you get so used to looking at a empty chamber when it’s not out of habit our brain just skips right over what we saw until it’s too late. It’s also more the hammer being in question not the trigger. I’ve had similar weapons where often the hammer didn’t stop as intended due to overuse/abuse. Everyone who hasn’t seen the actual weapon used simply doesn’t know any of the facts and it’s all speculation. I’d urge people to stop from condemning anyone until a investigation has been concluded. This guy can only speculate that Alex did this or that.. he doesn’t know how the hammer was manipulated.. he can only guess based on his experience. He doesn’t have the same weapon so it’s not going to function exactly like the one used. Also telling the difference in ammunition is difficult for anti gun people. Weight was always a indicator for me.. but they look similar in many ways.. it’s not like they get special colors on the brass case to identify it as safe to use for this kinda stuff. It’s almost exactly the same.. typically it’s the tip of the round that changes in appearance. Again tho.. no evidence was used in the making of this video. I would wait till professionals have done their jobs before the rest of TH-cam makes more opinion videos trying to state “facts” without using any evidence.
I've watched about 500 videos talking about this EXACT topic, and I'll keep watching them as long as TH-cam recommends them to me. Gun experts across the country all unanimously agree, Alex Baldwin lied.
My two thoughts on this tragedy. 1) Why was live ammo anywhere near the set? Whoever brought it shares the blame in this. 2) Why does a prop gun even need to be able to accept real ammo? Yes, I understand the desire to be as authentic as possible so the gun looks real. Why can't an authentic barrel be made with a non-standard caliber bore that will only accept a blank made to that caliber? A gun in a movie or TV show really only needs to do a few things. Look authentic. Make a 'bang' when it goes off. (Even that can be added in post production) And a puff of smoke (Again, can be added post production if need be, though may not look realistic) It doesn't need to accept real ammo to do these things.
I've seen another video from a gun expert who claims that live ammo cannot "fit" into a prop gun. I wholeheartedly agree with you. The big question looming: What the hell was live ammo even doing on the set?
@@lorinwegand6324 the "gun expert" you watched is either lying about being an expert, or lying about whether live ammo will fit. A prop gun is just a gun used on set. This is how several deaths have occurred on set
Mike Tristano has supervised firearms on film sets for more than 30 years, keeping a close eye on the guns used during the filming of “The Purge,” “Harsh Times” and hundreds of other movies. When it comes to guns and ammunition on sets, Tristano said, “the buck always stops” with the armorer, the licensed professional - sometimes credited as a “weapons master” - tasked with making sure movie firearms are safe and secure on set.
Alec Baldwin has said some disgusting things about people over the years. I think Karma finally caught up to him. Sad that Halyna Hutchins lost her life because of his NEGLIGENCE.
that's a great demonstration but the more important question is, regardless of whether or not he pulled the trigger or not, why was there ANY projectile in that gun that when the gun was operated, would discharge and fire a lethal round on a movie set?
Baldwin is not a firearms expert, they had ones hired specifically for that set that failed to do there jobs. How was he supposed to know it wasn’t properly gone through.
Why was it ever pointed at her? They weren't even filming. Even if you know a gun is not loaded you still out of safe practice and good gun responsibility dont aim it at someone, particularly when they arent in a scene where the firearm was ment to be used.
@Daniel who has more liability the actor or the people who are supposed to be gun expert and are supposed to check every chamber throughly. How is the liability not on them. It’s there job not alecs. Dosnt matter if he is familiar with guns because it’s a film set not a gun range. That gun should’ve been checked over multiple times they just got lazy and someone died because of it.
And what if the trigger has a mechanical problem? So he picks up the gun, squeezes the trigger a little bit and lets it go (without him knowing it) and as soon as Baldwin pulls back the hammer, the gun fires because he pulled the trigger earlier while picking up the gun.
I have been shooting weapons since I was a teenager, I am now approaching 76. When I heard Mr. Baldwins interview I quickly went to my safe and took out me S&W .357 magnum and tried to replicate what he claimed happened. At no point could I duplicate what he claimed happened. Now this video using the exact type of gun Baldwin had tries to duplicate what Baldwin claims took place. Once again there was no way he could get the gun to fire without pulling the trigger. There is no way a gun can hit a target with a bullet if the gun is not pointed at the target. It all adds up to the fact that Alex Baldwin was lying, there is no other explanation. That TV video will be enough to convict him of a criminal act. He should have just kept his mouth shut.
What happened is most likely that Halyna saw him molesting women/children on the set. Hes grade a molester, being a liberal. The man had to do what he did to keep the democrat molestation ring up and running. He is a murderer and a liar and should be put to jail for the rest of his life along with democrat supporters, although extermination camps would be faster and better. A final solution if I may.
the new Mexico prosecution will need to explain this to the jury before they find Alec guilty of what he will be charged with. Alec is rehearsing his testimony on national TV, I guess we can compare this testimony with the testimony when he is under oath in his trial.
There are actually 3 mechanical situations that could lead to the events Baldwin describes: the gun had a broken sear, broken/worn sear notches in the hammer (as you say) or a broken/weak sear spring. These possibilities should all be easily verifiable in the investigation
It's going to be interesting to see what comes out of the investigation. It will be very awkward for Alec if they declare the gun completely functional.
Exactly, although unlikely there is a possibility that the firearm broke/had a mechanical failure for the reasons you listed. Although the fact that a live round made its way onto set, into a firearm and then into Baldwin's hands is such a colossal failure of safety protocols I am going to lean towards that he had his finger on the trigger. He may not be conscious of doing it but the odds are still that its operator failure and not a mechanical failure.
Am i the only one who noticed the gun (and diagram) he was using had a transfer bar, or that the hammer spring does not sit in the notches the sear on the trigger does that?
Soon as he picked the gun up and pointed it at her he was guilty its his responsibility to clear the gun and make it safe and not rely on anyone to do it for him
Do you think Alec Baldwin is lying?
yes and he is guilty. If you are going to be an antigun nut who won't learn about guns then don't use one
Yes, and I thought so before watching this video, but I appreciate you proving it.
He is protected by the movie industry. A normal person would've been arrested and charged with murder. Who wants to go to prison if they know they could get away with negligent homicide?
Hell yes he's lying......all the movies he's been in and handled firearms and he's still useless.
Yes he is
During these troubling times, I stand behind Alec Baldwin- because there’s no way in hell I’m standing in front of him
🤣🤣 you’re too funny
@@LordBruuh always chance of backfire
Good one. Hahahahaha
HAha you made me laugh
Wait until the FBI finds evidence or not on his phone before u stand behind him
Regardless of who pulled the trigger, there's still the issue of why the firearm wasn't checked by the armorer to ensure it was safe and how live rounds made it onto a movie set and into a gun in the first place.
At the end of the day, this is all that matters. Shouldn't have been a live round in it, end of story.
@@bmxracinginjapan why was there a live round placed in it? Does anyone have an answer yet?
@@clipsedrag13 my only thoughts are assassination just like how Bruce lee son died on the movie set…
Who was the real target????
That is the main question, and if you think about it, there was definitely something shady going on. How does one accidentally bring live rounds to a set? Unless intentional.
No matter who gives you a weapon it's incumbent for you to check if is loaded!
this is the golden rule linked to all weapons
we don't read it often
Not according to the guy Baldwin accidentally shot. The armor was responsible for arming the weapon and responsible for making sure it was loaded with either blanks or dummy rounds.
@@rmendoza5953 nope! Gotta check it yourself . That's it.
@@garyacker7388 Why sure, you know more than the armor. Where did you get your license Trump University?
Yep, it's incumbent, yep, it's a golden rule, no, it's not the law. Alec is a victim here, and not liable for what happened. Quit trying to pin this on someone just because you don't like them personally
That interview was the worse thing he could have done. He should have kept his mouth shut and let his attorney handle it. Great video.
When some one is guilty, they feel the need to explain why they are not.
Can’t believe he said that
bet ya his attorney is now wishing he had kept his mouth shut
Woulda, coulda, shoulda…obviously, there are no do-overs in killings. Whether it was purposeful w/malice of forethought is something for NM state investigators to rule in/out. Second, I believe this vid captured what most likely happened in relation to Baldwin’s account. He lied. Third, foolishly narcissistic of him to do a tv interview, friendly or not (but I’m glad he did.) Whether he does prison time, we’ll have to wait and see. But, I’d be willing to bet he will be sued for all his worth and he will lose, regardless. I’m just curious if he had a previous relationship with the victim that soured and she threatened him. Has that been ruled out yet?
Alec is in deep trouble now with this interview. Whoever told him that this was a good idea shout be shot too!
All attention seems to be focused on Baldwin and what he did or didn't do. Yet the BIG question seems to be buried inside the controversy. How the ding dong hell did a live round end up in the pistol to begin with?!
The morons on staff were using the pistol for target practice on their off time.
@@jerk5959 There are some reports that there was no target practice, that this was just a story to take attention off of the armorer or anyone else who had access to the gun.
@Walter Alter: *Irrelevant* - Baldwin didn't check the firearm, pointed it at someone, and fired it. Baldwin is responsible for the death of Halyna Hutchins. Period.
At best it’s manslauter. Unintentional.
@@ModernGolfer totally agree. There also seems to be no remorse what so ever.
I've watched several explanations as to why Baldin's account was false, but this one is the clearest, most definitive demonstration. Thank you, Kevin! It's another reason I'm so glad I recently signed on with USCCA.
Thanks for the support!
Yankee Marshall had a good one too
Nothing like a primer pop to make it interesting!.
Legally Armed America did a really good one as well. I agree with you though, his is very straight forward and easy to follow.
Agreed, this is an excellent demonstration and it covered some points I had questions about. In particular, about the manufacture of the replicas (which he says here they are 1:1) and any possible reasons why the gun could actually go off accidentally (worn hammer sear). Now, it's just a matter of what the investigation will find.
I still want to know why there was a live round on a movie set? Seems like that would be the last place you would want or need one.
They are not allowed on set at all.
@@wanaraz On some sets they are and they are used for effects but done by professionals.
@@johnharris8191 They are never used when actors are acting on set or anywhere around. They use them offsite in training areas at times.
@@wanaraz It is not the actors that use them, it is done by professionals. Nobody is in front of the guns when they are used. For just 1 example, in the movie The Longriders there was a scene where a shootout occured between a posse and the James-Younger gang in a farmer's shack. When filming was finished and the shack was empty, live rounds were fired in it for effects. That is just as on the set as you can get. Plus, l can give you more examples.
@@johnharris8191 SAGAFTRA SAFETY BULLETIN #1
"LIVE AMMUNITION" IS NEVER TO BE USED NOR BROUGHT ONTO ANY STUDIO LOT OR STAGE.
In those very special circumstances LIVE AMMUNITION may be used ONLY if the following criteria and special circumstances have been met.
#3 This special use of LIVE AMMUNITION shall only be performed at a site that is suitable for the use of LIVE AMMUNITION ie Military, police, or private gun range, the deck of a vassal , or in an area deemed safe for this procedure.
I am a retired army instructor, have working experience and knowledge of many firearms. This video shows everything,complete and correct.
I also was an army inspector, procurer, quality inspector of Army weapons and auxiliary items. There are procedures and safety controls and levels of certifications. Many steps can be compromised to accommodate schedules, time constraints. Procedures and safety controls are compromised at large and small companies. Quality inspections were sometimes pushed aside. Turnovers of people, misplacement of safety bulletins and last minute training all are contributors and/or impacts. Safety should be in capital letters and supprted by mngmnt throughout manufacturing, testing and inspections.
@@donnadimanna9173 inspector? Jim said instructor
This man is an expert of guns.
@SOUTHGATE LINK wow
Behaha
The truth in any statement can be found in history. I watched "The hunt for Red October" again last night, despite Baldwin being in it. I noticed that every time he is on camera with a gun in his hand, he has his finger on the trigger. I wonder if anyone has ever seen him on screen without his finger on the trigger? Habits like that are hard to break and I would expect that this behavior is probably ingrained in him as this is what Hollywood portrays. I'm going to guess that he wasn't even aware that his finger was on the trigger. It's just bad training which leads to irresponsible, dangerous behavior.
Guns are fired all the time in movies it's not something new.
Question is ??
Why was Live Ammunition allowed on a Movie Set ????
@@weldmachine yup!
I see a few main questions
1. As you said, why was it loaded? (Treat every gun as if loaded)
2. Why was it pointing at someone?
(Only point at something you intend to shoot)
3. Why was the trigger pulled?
(Only pull the trigger once you have a target to shoot).
Sounds like 3 of the 4 rules of firearms were not followed.
That was smart; to watch his acting history and correlate his shooting muscle memory
@@glukeFlywalker obviously in a movie you're going to pull the trigger if the script calls for it without intending to shoot someone. Hence the use of blanks. So you obviously can't follow all 4 rules when filming a movie or nobody would ever pull the trigger or point a gun at someone. The same rules can't apply when you're using a gun loaded with blanks for a movie. The rule that is most important in this case is make sure the gun isn't loaded with live rounds.
@penny neal Try it yourself. You won't be able to do the motion he was doing in the interview without your trigger finger doing that motion. It was a meaningless video by just another grifter attempting to make money on the tragedy that happened. I dont think that's what USCCA is doing because their channel is demonetized. Also Alec is a liar, it doesnt take an expert in anything to know that.
Wow.
“The reason why Alec was lying, but first, a gun giveaway!”
Well done America. You keep being you
What I was thinking
Beat it ya limey. Go brush ya teef
Right I agree man....
@@916mw haha you salty bro? Bet you have the perfect Hollywood smile.... Not.
@@dannycarter3647 dude is out here using the borat comebacks…….not!
My wife put glue all over my rifles.. She said she didn't do it , but I'm gonna stick to my guns...
Everyone who was involved with that firearm should be charged, it’s really simple.
WTF is live ammunition doing on a movie set
What does live ammunition doing in schools XD ?
@@key7817 should stay in school for the sake of your grammar
If someone buys a gun off you and they shoot people, who is at fault? Why should the seller and creator be charged?
@@key7817 You Have to also ask, are education important?
@@asphaltking3452 if he does he'll get shot
I think we can safely call what Alec said a lie. He knew what he was talking about. He was there. He knows he pulled the trigger.
In his Liberalism mindset he didn't pull the trigger, however, the trigger with his finger in the trigger guard was already pulled. My question is, why were there live rounds.
@@CH-qf3kn it definitely sounds like some idiot was taking that gun off-set and using it for sport. Guns on movie sets are never supposed to leave the set and very few people are supposed to have access to them. Whoever brought the live ammo on set deserves a second degree murder charge but it doesn't sound like they've figured out who did it, hence why they are going after Baldwin since he's the second most responsible person for this tragedy since he was the one that pointed the weapon at the woman and pulled the trigger. Live rounds or not, if Baldwin would have followed standard gun safety protocols for movie sets, that woman would still be alive.
You really didn't need to demonstrate... Baldwin is a Democrat, an actor, and he's in love with himself. So it stood to reason he was lying.
I think he had his finger on the trigger when he faffed around with the hammer.
Question must be how did live round get loaded into the gun and who did that.
Also surely an armourer would have presented gun on set and he /she should of supplied ammo as well.? Would that not be the case
Actors, attorneys, politicians; if their lips are moving, they're lying.
don't forget insurance companies 🙄
Priests....
Yep. So true.
Not Trump. He spoke the truth and looked out for the American people.
Amen
Two points. One, you said he lied about not pointing the gun at her; he said in the interview that he didn’t point it at the camera. He said he aimed it slightly off, “in her direction
“. Two, you said a gun can not go off on it’s own which is simply not true. We had several accidental discharges from dropping a gun, at a sheriff’s department who’s county seat is in the city where I was a city officer.
Long before Alec Baldwin was born, the gun safety rules were: ALWAYS treat EVERY gun as if it was loaded, and NEVER point a gun at ANYTHING or ANYONE that you do NOT intend to shoot. It may not have been Baldwin's JOB to check the gun, but it was his RESPONSIBILITY to check the gun. Alec was merely the LAST person in the chain to make sure that the gun was NOT loaded!!! Alec Baldwin did NOT check the gun to see if it was loaded and he pointed the gun at someone....... GUILTY! The only question is whether it is involuntary manslaughter or MURDER! Either way he should be behind bars.
Those rules are instructed/taught to people. They are not inherent knowledge.
If he was not instructed on proper handling of firearms and relied on the expertise of an armourer then it falls on them or the studio.
@@F16_viper_pilot You are absolutely right, and maybe it might be worth mentioning that A.B. received 90 minutes of personal briefing from armorer H.G.-R.
@@F16_viper_pilot dead link
Link does not work, however if Alec Baldwin did indeed received proper training and ignored then I would have to agree he is liable. 🤔
@@mbogucki1 You're correct that gun safety rules have to be taught, but the onus is on Baldwin to get the training, not for someone else to foist it upon him.
Yes, alec isn’t telling the truth. He’s just starting to point fingers and blame someone else. He wasn’t even really crying.
USCCA shows good videos. 👍🏽
at least he's just pointing fingers now instead of guns
He's an actor...maybe he'll finally win that Academy Award for his BS interview...
While i agree and you are proba ly correct, we have to acknowledge the possibility of the gun failing. They will not release this info until after trial so we will have to wait and see. This is very unlikely, but we shouldnt do like the left and the msm and assume we know everything before the facts come out.
@@smokinC5 Too late smokin. Are you reading these posts? All sense of decency is lost in our society on both sides!!
@@peterdallman4550 sad but true
And he wants us to believe a full round was discharged and he didn’t know what happened until later….what BS.
Yep, the big loud noise would have been a clue!
HOW COULD HE KNOW, ITS A PROP GUN WORN OUT, SOMEONE PUT A LIVE ROUND IN, BALDWIN ISNT A A GUN GUY
I just watched your video with Colion Noir in which, after going through a training scenario, he was convinced he had fired only three shots when he really fired eight. Noir trains regularly with real guns. If he was that confused after a training session that went well (everyone was perfectly safe), imagine the trauma Baldwin must've felt after killing someone with a gun he assumed was perfectly safe. One can imagine his memory of what happened at that moment could easily have been distorted by the tremendous shock and horror. Where his real error was, was in not checking the gun thoroughly before using it on set. Had he bothered to take the ten seconds it takes to open the cylinder and look at what was in it, he would've instantly known there was at least one live round in there. He didn't do that.
Perfectly said.
Had the person that handed alec the gun said "here its empty, point it at your head and fire it!" He would of checked it 100%!!!
Actually, he wouldn't have...because he genuinely doesn't know that he's supposed to. In that situation, Alec Baldwin would be dead, the D.P. would be alive, and the armorer would be in jail.
I don't get it he is not responsible for loading the gun so why should he know how to handle it he's an actor the real question is who the idiot was that loaded that gun with live ammo that's the killer it doesn't really matter if he pulled the trigger or not unless he loaded the gun himself someone explain to me please
@@masel4578 because every person that picks up a gun, of any kind, for any reason, becomes personally responsible for it. The fact that he is (again WILLFULLY) gun ignorant doesn't give him a pass, nor does it make anyone else more responsible than him. People who know about guns don't wave them around without making ABSOLUTELY certain that they are completely safe. People who know about guns verify FOR THEMSELVES the status of a firearm, they do not take anyone else's word for it; and that is literally one of the very first rules of firearm safety. It takes nothing but willingness to learn the rules; but since Baldwin himself is so vehemently anti-gun, he just never bothered. And now it's come back to bite him on his ignorant ass...at the cost of an innocent life.
@@NCBikerBoy well I totally agree with what you're saying but I think legally speaking it doesn't matter because I don't think that there is an actual law that says you have to know how to handle a gun but yeah I understand what you're saying but also I don't think that every actor in every action movie checked their magazines in my opinion the one who loaded that gun and confirmed it was cold is responsible for this.
@@masel4578 That's not how it works. If I take a gun from you, don't verify that it's cleared and safe; then turn around and shoot someone, I AM HELD RESPONSIBLE, not you. I'm not suggesting that every actor that handles a firearm in a movie is gun savvy; but I am saying that most of them aren't so gun illiterate as to be waving a gun around, regardless of whether they've been told it's a "cold gun" or not. Also, whether "cold" or not, behaving the way he was with that firearm is unacceptable. On the set of the Matrix movies, how many firearm injuries were there? None, despite exponentially more gunplay. Why is that, do you think? Because firearm safety was observed to the letter, and most importantly, because the cast members (all of them) learned the rules, and followed them to the letter. 20+ years later, Keanu Reeves is effectively a competitive shooter, because he learned the basics back then; and then built onto those skills when preparing for the John Wick movies.
I'm not sure I believe Baldwin was even told "cold gun", I believe he just assumed it was safe, since it was a "prop", and proceeded to act in a grossly unsafe manner.
As far as the deadly round itself is concerned, I don't believe it was actually a full bullet; but in fact a fragment of a dummy round that was fired. A similar scenario is exactly what cost Brandon Lee his life while filming "The Crow". Every safety rule was followed, in that case; however a dislodged dummy bullet head got stuck in the gun, and was subsequently pushed out when the blank went off. All proper loading and unloading procedures were followed, so ultimately no one was to blame; and it was ruled exactly what it was: a fluke, tragic accident.
The Baldwin shooting, by reason of the level of ignorance at play; was negligence, pure and simple. And that's not what defines an accident.
Yeah he straight up lied, he did pull the trigger! He needs to be responsible for his actions a real man would step up and face the music!!!!! Takes a man to admit he was wrong... Obviously Baldwin isn't a man.
Yeah, he lied.. it's kinda stupid that he avoids this admission.. I see what you're saying..
(He's trying to avoid partiall liability .. which makes sense .. would you want to possibly get sued because of someone elsed major error . )
However,
he shouldn't have been given loaded live ammunition. It is not his fault. There was a major fuckup, and there should not have been ANY live ammo on set. This armorer was her first movie (her father was famous in the industry ... So there was some nepotism going on.) and admittedly she was in over her head. She's gonna be held liable and likely never work in that field again.
@@edwardhanna86 he's still at fault, no mater who hands you a firearm loaded or not you must check it and practice safety always! Never point it at anyone or anything you don't intend to destroy, Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to shoot and always be aware of what lies behind your target. Safety is paramount there are many parties responsible here ultimately it falls on the last person to verify what they are being handed.
It was obvious to anyone who knows anything about guns, etc., that he was lying and that he had to have pulled the trigger to fire the gun. Whether or not he intentionally tried tp harm is another issue, but he fired the gun at her period! Obvious questions include: why did they have live ammo on the set, why not a prop gun, why a fully functioning gun, and why didn't they have protocols in place to insure all prop weapons were safe for use on set?
He was relying on the left's ignorance of scary firearms to sway public opinion. If you imagine an angry Baldwin describing the incident (many videos of angry Baldwin online if an aid is needed) instead of calm Baldwin, it makes sense what happened. He was tired of filming, wanted to be home instead, mad that the crew walked out that day, was taking direction from a cinematographer which was insulting to his ego for something that most likely wasn't going to be used in the film. Given that scenario I believe angry Baldwin intentionally aimed and fired. It was probably meant to scare the cinematographer if he believed blanks were loaded, intentional murder if he thought real ammo was loaded.
The weapon could be malfunctioning. If it isn't, he lied in an interview, but nothing happened to people that lie on national television. Adam Shiff does it, every president does it, every single intelligence agency employee does it, every politician does it, and every general does it, like Colin Powell.
Well in regards to "why not a prop gun" typically it is a lot cheaper and more realistic to just rent the actual thing and use dummy rounds as opposed to making or buying a genuinely convincing fake.
@@richardwicks4190 Technically it could have malfunctioned, but what are the chances that this malfunction just happened to occur when the gun contained a live round? What are the odds of that? The gun works just fine for all the time it's used the way its supposed to be used, but the one time it has a live round in it, that's when it fails to work as it should? I don't buy it.
@@TheStapleGunKid It could have been malfunctioning all along. It was explained HOW it could have. There would be physical evidence of it, if it had.
I'm not defending Baldwin. It's the HEIGHT of stupidity to be handling even a FAKE weapon without having training in gun safety.
Any weapons on set should have been TRUE prop guns. No live ammo should EVER be on set. He didn't know how to clear the weapon either.
I think Baldwin should go to prison.
I know what happened to Brandon Lee. The weapon was loaded with bullet with the primer and propellant removed. The bullet fell out of the casing, and the same gun was loaded with a blank, that didn't have a bullet, but had the primer and the propellant.
Now, I can understand how THAT accident happened, and that was an awful accident, but it was an accident.
This case at least is 3 layers of negligence. Here's Baldwin shooting his stupid mouth off about the evils of guns, and he just killed somebody because he couldn't take 10 minutes to get a basic understanding of gun safety.
1) always verify the gun is unloaded.
2) never point the gun at something you're not willing to put a bullet in.
3) assume the gun can fire off at any moment.
4) even after you've verified the gun is unloaded assume you've made an error and it is loaded
5) don't trust anybody not to make an error when they say "this gun isn't loaded".
6) don't rest your finger on the trigger, and assume that no matter what precautions you've taken, when you pull the trigger, it's going to fire a bullet.
Takes 10 minutes to memorize that.
Baldwin has been doing acting for years with guns. It's professional incompetence that killed that director.
If we had a functioning judicial system he would be going to jail - but he's not going to jail. It's entirely HIS FAULT that director is dead. He killed her. It's entirely his responsibility.
Basic stuff: open the chamber, in this case, swing the cylinder of the revolver open and inspect the 5-6 chambers. Are there any rounds in the gun? If it's a semi-auto pistol, slide the magazine out and rack the slide back. If there are no rounds present in the magazine or were ejected from the chamber, the gun is not loaded. Even when a gun is NOT loaded, NEVER, EVER point it at a person. Any questions???
you should have 3000 inches
there is no ambiguity
unless they show intent to harm you or anyone else. Then and only then is it ok to point the gun at them. Or a animal under the same actions and intent, ANY Questions
What are you talking about 3000 inches.@@studiodw12
"I stand behind Alec 100%, it's just too dangerous to stand in front of him" - some guy on the internet
I'm going to use that one.
Well according to Alec, the bullet doesn't fly in a straight line, so it might circle back and hit you in the head even if you stand behind him...
@@seinundzeiten Psaki style…😂😂😂
LMFAO, funny tihs
Ha!Ha! Har! LMAO!@@seinundzeiten
Props to you guys for having multiple people double check the gun to ensure safety.
Big expert on firearms and their safe operation, Mr. I hate guns because I'm a Leftist Hollywood big shot who remains clueless about most things... Well Look at that... Not good, not good looks like you just murdered someone with a firearm there Alec buddy. Turn in your Democrat I.D. card right now! Also, being an actor you would think you would understand the importance of at least acting shook up for killing somebody for Christ's sake.
I have gunsmith for almost 30 years and Alec is not telling the truth. Quit trying to blame the firearm and admit what you did!
WHAT?? You think he should admit he accidentally killed someone and go to jail for manslaughter? Of course he's not going to do that when hollywood is going to do whatever (and thats a lot) they can to make sure he isn't charged? The only way they will throw him under the bus is if they (hollywood) are facing some kind of charges for deadly, hazardous, work environment.
Maybe the gun malfunctioned like he said? now look up the definition of malfunction before you reply lol.
@@hunterbidenslaptop6969 your mother is compost
@@hunterbidenslaptop6969 He still had a responsibility to check and see that the gun was NOT loaded.
Are you serious? He can't do that. That would mean actually taking responsibility for his action! And you can't do that in Hollywood unless everyone in Hollywood suddenly comes out with a story about how "Alec Baldwin almost shot ME TOO."
Wouldn't believe the A/H if he told me it was cold in Antartica.
We all know baldwin is lying, however, we do need to give him his rights of due process. There is a possibility, albeit small one, the gun was in disrepair as you suggested, which would ve easily proven and will come out in court. Aside from that, he pulled the trigger. The armorer needs to face charges as well for the live ammo issue.
Yes, he gets and deserves due process, BUT, that small possibility you cite does not relieve him of ultimate responsibility for the tragic outcome.
He had the BASIC firearm safety responsibility to: 1. Check the allegedly "empty" firearm when it was given to him, and 2. NOT TO POINT THE GUN AT ANYTHING THAT HE DIDN'T WANT TO SHOOT! He is an activist clown that obviously chose NOT to learn or practice basic firearm safety in spite of handling many firearms for his job over the decades of his career.
The armorer is certainly negligent also, as was anyone (assistant director) who reportedly handled the Pietta directly before handling it to him.
Also, that begs the issue of why ANY live ammo was anywhere on the set. Baldwin was also the producer and ultimately responsible for ensuring that was the case.
-An experienced single action competitive shooter and RO.
@@davidjaniec3838 totally agree. But i would say, i hate baldwin as much as the next gun guy, but he hired an armorer. The rules of gun safety do apply, to guns. I wouldnt assume that was a real gun and maybe he didnt eother. I had no idea real guns and ammo were used on sets. They dont even use real ice cubes or real paper grocery bags on movie sets. Again, the fact will come out, but applying range safety rules to a movie set isnt, or atleast shouldnt, apply really. How in the world real ammo was there is beyond me, but he holds responsibility for that as a producer. Ultimately he hold some responsibility, but this is more complicated than me just picking up a 45 and pointing it at you and saying i didnt pull the trugger. You are mostly correct tho.
@@davidjaniec3838 also consider this. Your rule 1, check the gun is unloaded. Well, in a movie it would need blanks, and in a revolver some type of ammo looking thing the would make the visible chambers look loaded. Kinda different from the range. Your rule 2, in movies they point guns at each other all the time. Litterally every single movie ever made with a gun in it. See the difference from range rules. Your rulws are correct and the ones we all live by, we just dont film movies lol. Again lets wait for the facts.
Innocent until proven guilty, no matter how stupid the person is
For those who might be overly fearful of firearms being dangerous, it's important to note the Baldwin didn't just violate one or even two basic safety rules for handling firearms, he violated ALL of the basics. If he had enough sense to follow Any of them, as a parent could expect from their average ten year old, then a woman would still be alive today.
@@beardedbomber9862 My dad trusted me, with his strict supervision, to handle the single shot .22 rifle he had cut down to fit me at age 7. I was never allowed to touch that or any gun until he knew gun safety was in-bedded in my mind! As for trusting according to age, obviously that didn't matter in Baldwin's case. There can be no doubt there are 10 year olds out there who are much more gun safety wise than this turkey.
@@beardedbomber9862 You are supposed to earn that kind of trust. I wasn't allowed to learn how to shoot as a kid until I had a track record of being moral and ethical, on top of knowing the basics of gun safety.
@@beardedbomber9862 I learned the rules at that age and never had an issue with a firearm at the range. Still to this day, no mishaps.
@@beardedbomber9862 you mean the one with the ozzie? I know of that one.. And ther was no reason to let her shot that by her self with out assistance holding it with her. And even then its still uncontrolable.
And you don't understand the chain of responsibility in the handling of weapons on film sets.
Why are they trying so hard to charge everyone except, the ARMORER! It was her job to secure weapons and make sure they were safe, and it's obvious that she didn't!
That's right. Baldwin was a clueless actor. That's why she was on set. But who hired her. Maybe she was not double checked.
Its still his job to make sure there were no live rounds in the gun
@@australian8579 The interview is out now. Watch the whole thing. About 26 minutes in she's babbling on about how bullets work like she's talking to a dog.
How the "nipple bit at the end comes out" (talking about the bullet).
It's insane! At one point she pulls a load of dummy rounds out of her dirty pocket and dumps them on the desk of the police interview. I'm not even joking!
She's a sulky teenager with permanent vocal fry. Every second word is "like"
No joke.
The Armorer Hannah Reed was NOT notified by Baldwin who is the co-producer. Baldwin decided not to inform the armorer before this impromptu scene of his with a LIVE firearm smh. The investigation into it says she was not given adequate time to do her job. She's off the hook.
I see your point but any prosecutor could say that Alec could have knowingly put bullets in the gun any time after it was handed to him so that he could shoot someone and blame it on the armorer. The person with the weapon is at fault.
I remember reading in my local paper that a witness testified that the "Gun expert" told Mr. Baldwin the phrase, "Cold Weapon" as he handed him the gun, it's my understanding that THAT phrase means the weapon is safe for use for that scene. That actually takes the murder charge off the table as, in Mr. Baldwin's mind, he thought there was no danger of him pointing the weapon as the script directs him to do. But in my military training, when one is issued one's weapon, the first thing you do is check to ensure the weapon is clear. For a Soldier, that means NO ROUND is in the chamber, but this is about a civilian movie set, so even if Mr. Baldwin had checked the weapon, (pretty sure this was a western revolver), he cannot actually remove the bullets to ensure they were blanks, because if he HAD DONE so, he could've been accused of replacing them with a live round in the gun, (and that's assuming he's trained to know the difference between a live round and a blank). That means the final safety check MUST be done by the "Safety expert" for that movie. This is just my opinion trying to follow a logical train of thought regarding safety.
His memory might have created a false narrative. He may truly believe his finger wasn't on the trigger, but in actual reality it was. He doesn't want to be blamed or feel responsible for taking someone's life.
He said it’s the worst thing that ever happened to HIM. Alec is worried about Alec, he’ll never own up to it because he’s a narcissist pos.
I agree, that is a very likely explanation.
Can you blame him, who would actually want to feel like that?
@@Phlacc I was sympathetic until he said that he "felt no guilt". The guy is full of contradictions...
@@thenoneckpeoplerepresentat8074 100 percent agree
Regarding 6:34 versus 3:24, Alex Baldwin said he did not pull the trigger. However if Alec Baldwin's finger was already resting on the trigger when his thumb released the cocked hammer, then it would have fired the fatal shot which was what happened. Therefore Alec Baldwin was trying to be clever by saying that he did not "pull" the trigger since his finger was already resting on the trigger when he let go of the cocked hammer. Nevertheless his finger should have never been inside of the trigger guard. Furthermore another implausible statement from Alec Baldwin was when he told George Stephanopoulos in his televised interview on ABC News, "The notion that there was a live round in that gun did not dawn on me until probably 45 minutes to an hour later." That was absurd, because as soon as his revolver fired and the loud bang of the explosion as well as the recoil jolt of the gun in his hand would have immediately let him know that he had shot Halyna Hutchins as she collapsed and later died on October 21, 2021.
Good eye i was looking thru the coments see if anyone else cut it at 3:24. said im not gonna pull the trigger and he proceeds to pull the trigger😔😪
Well if his finger was already resting on the trigger he must have pulled it to let go of the cocked hammer.
When doing a western movie and with revolvers and true to the time period nobody draw their revolvers with the trigger finger laying outside and above the trigger guard, very naturally the finger enters the trigger guard and press onto the trigger for a quick life or death shot. Alec apparently had his trigger finger inside the trigger guard when he drew the revolver and when he released the hammer at full cocked position the revolver fired because the trigger had already been pressed. This was totally gross negligent and disrespect of gun handling safety. And hell yes Alec should and will be responsible for taking a life and wounding another.
Single action revolvers are literally the reason for the expression, "Don't go off half-cocked."
Thanks for splainin it.
YES THEY DO, ITS AN OLD SAYING
WORN OUT GUNS DO
The person holding the gun has the responsibility to check it.
Not on an actor on a movie set.
ANYONE!@@powertuber4.068
and never to point it directly at someone
@@powertuber4.068 actors are not allowed to point real guns directly at other people
I'm guessing he had his finger pinning the trigger back as he cocked it and then when he released the hammer it fired. So in his mind he didn't actually pull the trigger. It was already pinned to the rear so no separate action was required.
Yes that mistake coupled with the fact he was pointing at someone even though he was told the gun was "cold" THEN we get to the question of WHERE did a live round come from?
He specifically said he never had his finger on the trigger. He is 100% lieing, just another leftists unwilling and unable to take responsibility for their own actions.
That’s what I was thinking. If the trigger was initially pinned against the rear of the trigger guard as you suggested, what happens to the hammer when it is then moved 1/8 inch back? Half cocked? I realize that with the hammer fully cocked and the trigger already pulled back that the gun will consequently fire the round.
@@josephcremeans I didn't watch the interview - did he really say that he never had his finger on the trigger? All I read is that he said he never pulled the trigger. Slight difference.
Why wasn’t he arrested and charged by now like any other citizen would’ve been in similar circumstances?
Who do you think he supports? Possibly the same people responsible for the alphabet soup kids being able to murder, loot, & burn cities.
That's right.!! God Bless that woman's soul & God bless her loving hurting family & friends who miss her ❤️🙏🤲🕊✝️😇❤
When I heard of this tragedy my first thought was, the only way it could go off without his finger on the trigger was if the part you mentioned in this video worn, or had been ground down on purpose.
What makes me suspicious is; if they were just setting up the shot, why were there rounds in the pistol? Especially live ones?
I was thinking the same. As incompetent as it appears the armorer was, I wouldn't put it past them to modify it. If they didn't modify it, then they would have been negligent for allowing a defective firearm on the set.
its all pretty sketchy, there had already been 2 other accidental discharges on set by that point, and many of the staff had walked out and was on strike that day due to safety reasons
Baldwin put the live round in after the professionals checked it.
@@KaiserBlade for what purpose?
@@agentbarron3945
The camera crew wanted a room closer than an hour away. They worked 12+hrs/day and weren’t happy about the commute.
I don't understand why Alec Baldwin is being accused of shot that woman. Shouldn't it be the responsibility of person in charge of those guns. Who brought live bullet on set?
The most dangerous gun is the gun that the one the holder believes is "safe" i.e. unloaded.
One of the most basic principles of clearing a firearm is to point the gun in a safe direction, and then clear or proceed to make the gun safe.
No one is asking - why would you keep the gun pointed at someone else while lowering the hammer, which happens to be one of the most dangerous actions performed by those using any revolver ? I can only think of ONE reason to keep the firearm pointed at someone else while attempting to lower the hammer, which is his latest story. That is - you would keep it pointed at that other person SIMPLY because you want to intimidate that other person.
As far as Alec Baldwin being a newb; well, he's been handling firearms of many sorts over the past few decades, to say he's should be absolved because < insert whatever excuse you like here > is ridiculous. Any other regular person in the US would be already charged if they intentionally pointed a firearm at someone else, regardless of or if they pulled the trigger and the projectile injured or killed someone else. Many have gone to jail or prison for EVEN less than that.
Alec has changed his story so many times, it's beyond ridiculous. That too would be grounds for most DA's to put the perp behind bars and in front of a judge and jury.
That and the SAA requires not one but TWO intentional actions to fire it: the hammer must be manually cocked and then the trigger manually pulled.
I think it was murder. I get to choose between that and just clownish levels of mass incompetence and negligence, and murder simply seems more plausible to me.
@@politicallycorrectredskin796 Can an action occur from subconscious impulses ? Did he 'unintentionally ' pull the trigger ? Because his explanation is physically impossible, an obvious lie to anyone familiar with SA Colt Army revolvers.
This could be ' the perfect murder '..A B is lying like a rug..minimizing his accountability..passing the buck to the Armoror..who everyone knew was overworked and sometimes sloppy with firearms on set..
The perfect ' fall girl ' for his act ?
@@politicallycorrectredskin796 It would help explain why there was live ammunition on a movie set (and loaded into a gun) to begin with.
That's the biggest problem I have with these video's by many people on TH-cam. They are telling people it's impossible for a gun to go off without pulling the trigger and having no discussion about gun safety and why it's important to treat every single firearm like it will. It's not about if he pulled the trigger, in the end it doesn't really matter unless the people prosecuting him think he planned her murder. He was negligent in his hiring of the armourer, he was negligent in his handling of the gun, the armourer was negligent and underqualified and allowed conditions on set to become unsafe. That's what matters but everyone is anxious to tell billions around the world that it's perfectly fine to point a gun at people because it's impossible for it to go off if you don't pull the trigger.
It doesn't matter that this isn't the message they intend to send out, that's the message that's getting to people. Nobody should be having this discussion without first listing gun safety procedures. They should also point out that even if there is a problem with the gun and Baldwin didn't pull the trigger, if he followed proper safety procedures with the gun, nobody would have gotten hurt. The people on these channels including this one are violating rule #1 for anyone who teaches gun safety. This video needs to be taken down and done again with actually having a brief talk about procedures and why they are important.
He also said in his interview that he didn't know he shot anyone for ~45 minutes...and that was after explaining how he was trained to "create" recoil when filming because there's not enough kick unless there's a live-round. And so he fired a live-round, but somehow didn't realize he hurled a ~230grain bullet and hit two people, and didn't realize it immediately, and was gripping it tightly enough to not have it fly back into his face but wasn't expecting to shoot? Um, ok...he incriminated himself with his description of getting training about the recoil and exaggerating it with dummy-rounds. Good job!
A 45 is a big round an gas serious kick
Yeah, don't they also have slightly cooler loaded blanks than training blanks because they don't have ear protection on set? Ill look up, but i think they do because I can guarantee that actors are going to complain about hearing damage. If they do, then that would only add to your argument. Not only is the specified blank supposed to have significantly less recoil due to not having a projectile, but they also wouldn't even have as much noise as a real cartridge.
@@johnstrickland3933 keep in mind it's not 45 acp, it's 45 long Colt. If I'm not mistaken it's one of those cases where it was originally black powder (weaker, dirtier and lower pressure with a faster burn rate) and was later made in smokeless. (slower burn rate but higher pressures and a LOT less fowling) Funny thing is: the BLACK POWDER cartridge flippy as hell for it's day, and now it's smokeless? Needless to say it's gonna have a LOT of kick. Not 50AE or 500S&W but still pretty jarring especially for someone like Alec Baldwin who actively avoids firearms.
According to AB, he didn’t have his finger on the trigger and his thumb slipped from the hammer, so he was holding the gun with only three fingers when it went off unexpectedly. It strains credulity that he maintained control of the weapon let alone that he didn’t even know he shot her.
And how do you go 45 minutes without knowing that the people who you are talking to have been shot?
In all my experiences with firearms a person who hasn’t had proper training or any training at all has a natural urge to place their finger inside the trigger guard. They almost never realize that they are doing it until it’s pointed out to them.
From what I can gather if you minorly depress the trigger like he might do without knowledge like ie: pulling it out of pocket during set trying to get a shot in the film he can by pass the sear on the pistol atleast from other videos I've watched I'm not entirely sure though
yes, people naturally put their finger on the trigger without being aware of it, unless they are trained
How long do you think baldwin has been around guns in movies? A lifetime. He's just a murderer
J Joslin your right about people putting there finger on the trigger. Regardless their should never have been live ammo on set.
People like you make me sick, he is an actor and doesn’t deal with guns especially guns with full rounds. The guy was in tears and then there’s someone like you who comes around and wants to make everybody believe he did it intentionally. If you ever been put in his position? All of you gun toting lunatics want to always come up with some ridiculous reason why something happened. This is no more than a conspiracy theory. Why don’t you stay off the Internet spreading lies that you know nothing about. You were not there you don’t know who handled the gun before him you don’t know anything about the situation yeah you want to go on the Internet and tell thousands of people stories to make it look like he did this on purpose. Don’t you think he’s hurting bad enough. Sometimes you’ve gun toting fanatics need to just stop and keep it to yourself
On top of it all, there were “prior incidents” and complaints about safety, and this still happens. You can’t get much more reckless.
If our lives hang in the balance when we are handling firearms, so should the elites. It’s a huge responsibility every time you pick up a firearm. It is YOUR responsibility to ensure it is safe. Consequences are needed for the idiot who caused this innocent person to die
If I go to a gun range as a novice its the range officers responsibility to make sure the firearm is safe and to instruct me how to use is properly. That is what I paid for. If they hand me a firearm and say its safe or unloaded why should I doubt them? And how am I supposed to know how to make it safe?
Same thing applies here. Baldwin relied on the expertise of the armourer. Liability is with them.
@@mbogucki1 wrong.
@@mbogucki1 A range officer is not there to instruct, but to enforce safe gun handling. That is what you are paying for. If you want instruction take a gun safety class.
@@TTiger86268 That's where mboguki1's problem rests.. No common sense.
Snack, the idiot would be Baldwin. He’s not even qualified to handle a cork gun and stick horse.
Did you really think any Hollywood celebrity is going to take responsibility for their actions??? Of course he's lying 😂😂
You can tell he was lying because his lips were moving
The gun in question can be disassembled and examined under a microscope on the key parts. His interview was an attenpt to sway the jury but unfortunately, his attorney should harve warned him to keep his mouth shut as these mechanical devices, like the single action revolver, are easy to prove. Lying about it still will not change facts on how it operates!!!
The open question is whether that gun had been modified to be a prop gun. Pulling the hammer back and having it stop part way….does not look very “cinematic”. Prop guns are often modified to “slip guns.” Which will fire when when the hammer is released.
@@jimbutler1189 exactly what i was thinking.... Modify certain parts of single actin pistols that make fanning the hammer easiest for the actors...
@@jimbutler1189 and he is saying click.... cant wait to see the gun involved get scrutinized... if it ever does...
The same gun the killed the cinematographer was used for plinking around after hours so there is nothing wrong with the gun. It was fully functional and in proper working order.
I hope that the forensics team is professional and skilled enough to determine whether the firearm in question was in good repair, properly functioning, or modified as to functioning differently from a stock firearm of this make and model.
Excellent demonstration of what happened and how it happened. Thank you.
How it may have happened. This man was not present at the actual scene. Get it right.
@Kameleonic
The FBI fired the firearm 12 times and it was fine..Baldwin lied.
The irony is so thick on this one. Alec being such a pita to law abiding gun owners. Now its exactly them who hold Alecs fait with real knowledge like this video. Priceless.
I think it was his lack of gun comfort that contributed to his rushed and sloppy handling/safety which along with the mystery bullet resulted in a death.
@@billysexton Didn't he once say that he doesn't need to learn firearm safety because he was against gun ownership?
I think you meant to spell "fate", however on a positive note, if you were French then you would have spelled it correctly!!! Also, the live round got on that set, by someone's human hand, the question is, who was that someone??
@@user-hd1qx2bd1r Your right, I'm not French. But If I did have any French in me I would hope that it would own the smallest percentage. No matter how people want to spin this, its the person who pulled the trigger that is responsible. Alec can and has blamed everyone but himself, but at the end of the day he pulled the trigger.
@@brockisoverrated CC, Come on! use that un french brain of yours, LOL, Inspector Clouseau, there's absolutely no sense or gain, in him doing this, absolutely NO motive to do this. Give me a break! Somebody set him up (and really well) so that there's no leads! It was professionally set-up because who ever did it, made sure everybody on the set, either touched or had something to do with the murder weapon, and that makes everybody a suspect!!! It's going to take one amazing Detective, to uncover this well thought-out murder. This was no rookie murderer, whoever planned this, even understood how it would look when, and as, the News would portray it out to the Public. Gotta be Organized Crime, because they have lots of experienced lifetime guys in the murder racket. Better believe it. I don't know why they've done this to Baldwin, but whatever Baldwin did, This Murder Set-Up was done to #1 Go after him specifically, on the Movie Set, and maybe more incriminatingly important, It's a Message to the Movie Industry. Murdering just Baldwin in his usual life, alone somewhere would have been very easy and quiet, indeed for a Professional killer, because Baldwin wouldn't have even known it was coming, totally easy routine Target, for a Pro. #2 Whoever did this, wins two (2) ways because they now have ruined Baldwins life forever even whether he's found guilty or not, AND they've sent a HUGE Lovely message to ALL others in the Movie Industry, This same thing can happen just as easily to you too! DON'T DO WHAT BALDWIN DID. The United States has a long, long history of never finding, especially important peoples, killers. The whole United States Police forces, never found John Kennedy's killers, and they've also never found Martin Luther King's killers either. Probably the two most prominent figures in the world at that time, especially in United States, and both Murders remain 55 years on, unsolved.
I guess Alec feels that if he tells this story enough people will believe it he's delusional and a liar
you forget murderer
Thats the liberal in him,
I loved how George Stefenofolis shook his liberal head in agreement when Baldwin was telling his story. Im not a gun guy but even I know basic mechanics of a hand gun.
what we saw was the final cut. I'd love to see the uncut video, all the scripts and takes as they were examined by the attorneys present. I bet it cost thousands just to make this short clip......
@@tedk2814 At the very end of the video, I believe I saw it was produced by George Stephanopoulos Productions. Additionally, wasn't the interview (show) billed as "unscripted"? Oh sure!
Of course he said he didn't pull the trigger. He was in denial, he didn't want to admit that he had, and the horrific outcome that followed.
Should he be on trial for the woman's unaliving. No! Because it's not the actor's responsibility to ensure that the gun given to them for a scene is cold or "safe". Many actors are not familiar with firearms and only know what they've been told.
It was the Armorer and the Assistant Director's responsibility to ensure the gun was safe.
Why did the Armorer have live ammunition mixed in with the dummy rounds?
Why didn't the assistant director make sure all the rounds were either dummies or at least blanks?
Why did the assistant director call cold gun on set when he had not actually checked it himself.
Why was Baldwin charged let alone tried for doing what actors do? Rehearse a scene.
Was this trial politically motivated. Maybe, Baldwin has been on SNL portraying Trump in a less than complimentary manner? Yes. Does Trump hate Baldwin? Yes.
Is the prosecutor a Trump supporter? I don't know. Is it possible that the prosecutor was trying to "get" Baldwin for his past portrayals of Trump? Could be.
Great video! I also noticed that he deliberately talks about her agreement with his actions. As though she agreed to have the gun pointed directly at her while he manipulates its functions. I'm disgusted with it because it will be used to say she accepted the risk of being shot and killed. He's lying about pulling the trigger with the muzzle aimed at her body so there's no reason to believe he's being honest about her agreeing to it multiple times as it was happening. Heartless!
Great point !
as soon as he pulled back on the trigger while pointing at them he was already guilty
Guilty of what ? Murder ? Nope. Who loaded the gun ?
@@autooverride7462 unless he snuck the round into the gun that killed the woman then how can that be ?
@@adamgardener8624 yeah murder, check out the penalties for someone dying in a negligent discharge of a weapon it can come from felony to 3rd degree and in some cases you'll find 2nd degree murder. It doesn't matter who loaded the weapon, as soon as a gun is in your hands it is your responsibility to check it and treat it always as if loaded. He should have known the basic rules of firearm safety before getting real guns into that set. Well even better he should have never brought real life guns into that set. Plus he was the producer so he can't pass the blame up cause it would fall back on him, also the rookie armorer he employed.
@@rainchazzer6308 Imagine people getting away with the Baldwin defense which is he didn't load the gun and didn't pull the trigger. An ordinary person would be in jail.
@@rainchazzer6308 dang. You got me there bro. Im convinced. Youre right.
I've had some experience with pyrotechnics, including a few movie shoots. The movie pyro guys were always the most terrifying and required the most scrutiny. He's either a liar, or the gun was modified in some bs manner, or whatever...bottom line is sloppy sloppy sloppy incompetence and now someone is dead. 1,000,000% absolutely avoidable, foreseeable, and jail time is called for.
So what if he did pull the trigger, it’s a movie set, he was using a gun he assumed had blanks or dummy rounds
Assume NOTHING other than ANY gun you hold is LOADED. Also, check for yourself before doing anything with it.
@@michaelschneider6106 you have experience filming movies?
@@chuckles3265 The better question is whether those filming movies have experience with firearms. I have 60 years of firearm experience and have never shot anything I didn't intend to. Also. I've never killed or injured anyone with a camara either.
@@michaelschneider6106 that is the better question. Baldwin was not the firearms expert. There were "experts" on set. This Baldwin witch-hunt is political.
You used the word “assumed”. That’s the fatal flaw.
He didn't say "I didn't have my finger on the trigger" he said "I never pulled the trigger" ...
Which we both know it doesn't take much tension on the trigger for hammer release.
It isn’t a lie if you’re an actor, that’s legal loophole 101.
Underrated comment 🤣
Bruh.....you're a better lawyer than Thomas Binger with this comment alone 🤣
Trump proves that theory every day.
or a president
@@VirileDelphic
"I agree. Let's go, Brandon."
- Biden 2021
Alec Baldwin has acted in movies with firearms for something like 40 years... he has been through procedures with countless armorers, and he knows very well how things work :)
I 1,000% agree with you. You also know he's lying when he thought she may have passed out for 45 minutes to an hour. That is a bold-faced lie you shoot someone at close range with a 45 you immediately know what happened. Let alone the other man that got shot as well would have rang out with oh my God you just shot us.
Anyone who’s ever fired a revolver knows that the kick of a real round is very intense. Even a low load has kick but the difference is huge.
Like you said, a full examination of the gun by an independent professional gun smith would definitely determine if the gun had an issue. ( lack of, or poor maintenance ) Based on those findings one could then be confident that Mr Baldwin is not describing the incident truthfully. Regardless, why was there live ammunition on location in the first place. Many factors added up to make this a bad scene.
Agree. Alec was there to play with gun, no to play with real ammunition. Gun smith is responsible …
@@endermata1952 Many things Alec said in his interview spoke volumes but his implying he essentially ending up aiming at the producer (which he must have done at some point), at the instruction of the producer, supposedly (that's what he said), is bonkers and ridiculously irresponsible. "Oh btw, you've got me aiming at you now btw, just so you know" - or.. "I cant aim there, that would be aiming at you". All whilst he proceeded to fiddle with pulling back the hammer (with his finger on the trigger it seems). I guess she didn't notice since she was watching her producer screen and not him.
@Jacob Craven Fair points, though that theory as to how it went off if the gun was somehow faulty is yet to be proven which presumably is then the responsibility of the armour? Granted this sounds like a tragic accident but there seems to be a chain of issues, reports of misfires earlier in the filming and each not taking what they're using seriously and the gravity of the "what if" scenario of something going wrong.
I believe the lady who got shot was also the co-producer? Or director? (and cinematographer, ok). Regardless she was directing him at that moment and all were presuming the gun was "cold" as he said but he never checked it himself which sounds risky to me given he was put in charge of it at that time.
No doubt the whole tragedy and how it happened so it can't ever happen again will be investigated fully.
@Jacob Craven I'm actually from the UK and we're not allowed to own firearms (well you can but have to jump through infinite hoops) but what is the law when you're using a gun that's not registered to you (given these prop guns seem to have identical capability as the real ones, using blanks or real bullets)? What does the law say in the US in respects to using a gun not registered to you and who is therefore responsible?
You can’t dismiss the possibility he put a bullet in the gun!
Sure it’s almost an old Columbia plot but if we didn’t know it was a famous star, we’d be thinking all these possibilities.
I’m sure the cops are.
Trump should go on SNL and portray Alec🤣
I dont think he can talk that slow
@@westcoastwarriorsarchive7929 🤣
LOL HA HA
Had he just owned up to his negligence like a man id feel a bit different. The fact that he is trying to weasel his way out of this after years of supporting anti gun BS makes me say let him have it. I want him to say that under oath and watch him catch extra charges for perjury.
Could not agree more boot leg!
Fun fact: He probably actually believes that he did not pull the trigger. When you go through a traumatic experience like that, it's very common for a person to not be able to properly recollect how it happened. It's called "Memory distortion for Traumatic events" and is a very common symptom of PTSD.
The similarities between Baldwin and Smollett are striking from the context that they do something incredibly stupid - then just double-down with lying. The fact that both also hated Trump is telling.
@@elliott8596 Hmm, maybe. My guess is he was nurtured by his lawyer into saying whatever needed to be said to avoid a prison sentence.
@@steveroberts9222 Indeed! 👍🏽
When you accept a Firearm without
Checking its status yourself,its
on YOU!
I know he's lying because during this interview his "recollection" of the events changed since his initial statements on the incident. Originally he said he was practicing drawing it and dry firing it at the camera, but it wasn't supposed to be loaded.
He's had three stories so far; two before he hired lawyers and this one after his lawyers started working. Each time he goes public he provides more evidence. May the truth prevail and justice be served.
@@mjb9176 Indeed, hope he spends quite a bit of time for what he did.
@@gregflores8959 What he did was using a gun that was supposed to be safe. The man is an actor, not a gun hobbyist. The armorers are responsible for the weapons, not the actors.
@@juslitor so by your definition that means nobody should be prosecuted for firing a gun and shooting someone with a gun they didn't know was loaded. And getting charged with neglagent homicide.
To be fair memory is a funny thing and you'll find your recollection of events changes each time BUT I still do believe he's full of it. Don't see why he's not facing charges of man slaughter or similar.
Thank you for being clear about the possibility of the hammer being so worn that it could have still fired. A SAA could fire if the hammer was cocked back and forcefully hit (which is why they always say load 5 never 6) or if the hammer is really worn. I think Baldwin is an idiot but it’s also important to tell people the entire truth.
I've always understood the "Load 5 never 6" to be so that the firing pin on the old revolvers was never sitting directly on a primer. If that's the case, it would not have mattered because the next cylinder (when it rotated by pulling back the hammer) would have a round in it.
The simple truth is that 3 people (the weapon master, the director and the actor) did not properly check it before filming the scene. Once so checked, it should NEVER leave the actor's hands until the scene is fully filmed and the firearm ready to be stored. I was on a movie set one time and all of the firearms we used were rubber dummies. Very realistic ones, but non firing rubber ones.
Funny thing is...I thought ALL movie prop guns were made so that they could NEVER fire a live round...something about the type of blank and a restricted barrel to avoid EXACTLY this type of incident. I guess I was wrong.
I think you mean "uncocked". The 5 not 6 guideline is an anti-drop or anti-bump safety measure.
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If the armorer had been doing the job she was hired to do (if she knew how, of course), she would have verified that the weapons on set had all been properly taken apart, inspected, cleaned, reassembled, oiled, checked out for proper operation, and were ready for use on the set -- and that only blanks were the only ammo near any of those small arms on the set. That's an armorer's job! If the hammer was "so worn that it could have still fired," that condition would not just suddenly appear one day out of thin air. It would have become apparent when she was cleaning and prepping the gun for use in the movie. It's like driving with "bald" (sorry, AB) tires. Tires aren't "good" one day and "really worn" and bald the next. If you take a moment to look at them and you see that the tread is mostly gone, you know you've got a problem -- before you begin that road trip and get a flat or, worse, get into a crash. In Vietnam, I used World War II era .45 Colt semi-auto pistols, Smith & Wesson military model six shooters (probably older than WW II), M1/M2 carbines, and Thompson submachine guns, in addition to more modern M16s and 12-gauge pump shotguns -- and even M79 grenade launchers. We had a real vintage gun collection in the Seabees ("can do!"). All the WW II era weapons were well worn, but by taking them down, inspecting them carefully, cleaning and oiling them, reassembling them, and trying them out, they still worked just as well as they did decades earlier. The entire truth. This is after some of them had fired hundreds or even thousands of rounds before I handled them. A "really worn hammer" would have shown up wayyyy before AB took hold of that pistol. Someone needs to get hold of the actual handgun AB used that day and have a qualified armorer do an analysis. If the hammer was "really worn" so that it would not work correctly, well, it just wasn't the "well-oiled" set that AB claimed he was running after the shooting proved it wasn't.
I have seen single action pistol go off if the cocked hammer is "bumped" once the hammer has been pulled back.
NOTE this ONLY happened on a worn mechanism that was not safe to be using anyway.
Point is for me, pulled trigger or failed mechanism is beside the point.
That gun should NEVER have even been cocked, especially as Baldwin never cleared it when he picked it up.
I grew up with single actions because that’s what Dad had. I learned this lesson early on. Excellent explanation, especially addressing the proper condition of the hammer.
He probably had his on the trigger not realizing it.
What I heard him say, he never pulled the trigger. But I had not heard him say, he did not have his finger on the trigger.
Unless that one part was severely worn, there is no way whatsoever that the firearm would have went off unless he was holding the trigger.
You never put your finger in the trigger well until you're ready to fire.
They don't play videos as expert testimony (which is what this would be). But they could call Kevin Michalowski as an expert witness to the stand and he could state all of that again during the trial. This allows the defense to cross-examine him too. But in reality, anyone who knows anything about firearms would give the same testimony so the odds they would call Mr. Michalowski is pretty low.
"unless he was holding the trigger" That ties in with explanation of another capability of this Colt revolver. Others are saying & demonstrating this. One is youtube Popcorn Planet. Baldwin has years of gun involvement in his movie roles. Ignored requirement of gun safety protocols, well distributed &accessed. Is this "You can't make a horse drink it'? Was even beckoned to have safety classes by G'Reed. Which she prob. needed also, by the mere fact she accepted sharing her Armorer role. Baldwin's Years of opportunity to learn & include safety, you have a responsibility to co-workers. Not luxury of 'one size fits all'. For ALL or both Politcal pursuasions need to acknowledge need to commit to learn & practice all safety protocols if you are to use guns. Arrogance, stubborness, self-serving, or your politics? If not willing to combine safety in your movie role then 'get out the way'. Of trouble. Give to someone else who does. I wonder if he was aware different ways gun can fire & was tempted to enact it. Too curious of its conclusion. Go to firing range to settle that. Not at a person.
@@peterpike .There are 2 variety of ways people are adamant this gun fires, circling youtube. Even demonstrating. Are they unaware they are perhaps handling a modified type Colt? Doubt it but pos. All could have been avoided if he'd accepted advice to take gun safety classes.
@@johnjohnon8767 . Could have already been pressed by anyone beforehand. Anyone who has no business pressing it.
I agree with this video’s explanation 100%. Remember Baldwin is an professional actor and the interviews he has given is his best work yet to save his career. Any firearm a person shoots should be dry fired and given instruction by an experienced firearm owner or professional! Anyone who is handling a firearm is responsible by inspecting the firearm before shooting.
"Never trust an actor with a gun." - Abraham Lincoln
Even rubber fake guns are never, ever aimed directly at another actor on a professional film set.
I know nothing about guns and have never seen one that wasnt on a policemans hip.
I could not understand how it could be fired without pulling the trigger and felt there was much more to Baldwin's story
Your explanation was fantastic
Thankyou
Go to the range with an instructor and educate yourself. It's a lot of fun. If you like it, buy one. The life you save may be your own.
You should go to a range some time just to experience it and the accompanying gun safety training you will receive from anyone there if you ask for help. Every single person on the planet who knows how guns work knows the guy is lying. Even if he wasn't they also know this was still only his fault. Not the armorer or anybody else. They may have been negligent too. But they didn't shoot anyone either. Baldwin did. Whenever you assume control of a gun, that gun is your responsibility. A lot of people miss that about this case.
Anyways, I think you'd enjoy shooting at least once, so I definitely recommend it. If you're nervous about it before, you won't be by the time you leave. Guns are safe and fun once you learn the basic rules of it. You should respect them, but not fear them. It's people you should worry about, and they can kill you just fine without a gun. Particularly the gun grabbers.
@@politicallycorrectredskin796 thank you so much for reply. Where I live there are no gun ranges at all. I'm not in the USA but if I lived there I think it would be a great idea to take all your kind advice
Thanks again.🤗
@@freakfly23 thank you so much for your reply...i can't buy a gun where I live and there laws etc
I'm not in USA.
The gun is smarter than Baldwin
When someone is traumatized like that their brain sometimes blocks reality.
Can't imagine going through something like that.
Exactly. Weird how people are acting like he showed up on set to kill this person. When in reality he showed up to work and then his life changed forever in a split second.
@@f4rt989 it’s the fact that he is lying about it why lie if you didn’t do nothing wrong lol 😂😂
@@zaya_831 so you didnt read the comment he was answering to?
@@f4rt989 I don't think people believe that he intended to kill anybody but his actions were irresponsible
@@zaya_831 because he’s trying to be completely innocent instead of negligent homicide
Baldwin: ive never pull The trigger...The trigger was a Living creature
I worked in Hollywood briefly, did two movies with guns on set, we were so careful and I was happy to see how controlled it was. Baldwin's production failed miserably on many safety points.
Here's what I saw on set I worked:
1. No gun went into the hand of an actor until 4 people verified it was unloaded (clearing chamber and dry firing); the actor, the prop master, a crewman (me several times), and an assistant director. Rubber guns were verified too. Prop master would often take the weapon between scenes and repeat the safety check every time it went back to the actor.
2. If a gun was to be pointed towards a camera, the camera operators were behind bullet proof glass, even if the gun was unloaded (or, the camera was setup, turned on, and the operators left the area).
3. Blank ammunition was verified by the prop masters and producers and then came to the set straight from the armorers and they would handle the guns when the cameras were off.
4. If someone was in the path of the barrel firing blanks on camera, it was 99% of the time a stuntperson with cleverly concealed body armor.
5. If shooting towards off camera, obviously no one was in the path of the barrel.
6. (bit of an extension of #1) Prop guns used in non-shooting scenes were often mechanically inoperable. No firing pin, no springs, etc.
this is an obvious answer and why they kept the investigation that long?
@@Metabee21 to hide evidence I guess
@@gbolt111 production mistake is an obvious at this point...it not an actor job to know the gun is real or not...can't imagine when a cow boy actor point gun and pew pew came from his mouth...the prolong the suffering of the actor who did not know the gun was armed with live round
@@Metabee21 maybe, but after that interview he looks even more guilty.
@@gbolt111 Guilty of shooting yes but guilty of killing is a no....all this can be avoided if the two suspect do their job...plus why would Alec want to kill film crew? when he pull the triggered as he was ordered to so in his job as an acdtor in western film which involve guns...plus he became an unintentional killer because two idiot does not do their job properly which make them the actual killer not the actor...just because he felt guilty does not make him the suspect or an actual killer...if you were in his shoe would you felt guilty on something that can be avoided if the people you trust to work with do their job completely?
Sounds to me like Alec Baldwin, most likely being a newbie to firearms, broke Rule 3 of basic firearms safety by having his index finger on the trigger (in this case with enough force to allow the hammer to drop when he let go of it). I believe that in his mind he truly believes he didn’t pull the trigger. It’s a lack of training. There’s a lot of blame to go around.
It’s not a lack of training. It was him trusting the words of the crew, including the ARMORER, who was hired to be responsible for the weapons.
@@jimbutler1189 , not knowing how to safely handle a firearm is a lack of training. Handling a gun with your finger on the trigger when you aren’t intending to shoot violates one of the basic safety rules.
@@jimbutler1189 it absolutely was a lack of training. The only way this accident happens is if he violated all 4 laws of gun safety. That’s a single days worth of training to beat those laws into your head forever, but he didn’t, and STILL WON’T
You guys are in ERROR --
Alec is NOT A NEWBIE. He's well experienced with movie guns, real guns, prop guns. Don't be FOOLED BY THE MEDIA. Poor little dumb Alec.
I see actors mishandle firearms in movies all the time. They’re actors, not necessarily trained to properly handle firearms. In fact, they shouldn’t need to be. The weapons on set should be made safe for the scene at hand by hired weapon handlers. Regardless of Alec Baldwins memory of the incident, I’m curious to know why live ammunition was on set and in that firearm. He might be lying but it could also be a memory distortion. Trauma can do that to a person.
First and foremost. Alec is an actor. Take that into consideration when seeing his fake crying. Secondly. He's doing a great job of acting like he knows how a single action revolver works. This isn't just on him though. The whole production team is to blame for unsafe conditions. There is no excuse for negligence.
Let's remember that it's Baldwin's production team so he is responsible at more than one level.
My wife is a Psychologist. Her words describing Alec Baldwin in this case.
CONSIDER THE SOURCE.
For this accident to have happened it doesn't require something somewhere to have gone wrong, it requires every parameters everywhere to have gone wrong. It's actually insane to think of all of the grave mistakes that had to be made for this to happen
@@sephikong8323 right, it's a movie prop so it should never have had live rounds in it to begin with.
A 24 year-old Armorer? Really? Oooh, she must know so much about firearms.
Back in the day, your movie set armorers were retired military, if not retired Special Operations people.
he said he didn't "pull the trigger", not that he never had his finger on the trigger. also, i think people and alec are conflating "pull the trigger: to fire it" with "having the trigger pulled back". he probably had the trigger pulled already, then was pulling back the hammer and released, like you demonstrated. vs. he just pulled the trigger alone and it fired. so, he didn't pull the trigger to fire it. he had the trigger pulled back. also, it's possible to not point a gun intentionally directly at someone, but in pulling a trigger or hammer causes your hand/arm/aim to change, which could result in pointing it at someone directly.
We should probably not call him a liar until we know wether or not the gun was defective. I do believe that he cracked the hammer with his finger on the trigger.
None of that matters...He did not check the gun for dangerous rounds, and assumed it was safe when it was not. THAT is the point of guilt. Non-existent safety procedures on a set he is responsible for as the producer, and failing to qualify the gun's safety as the gun handler in the scene.
The notches in the hammer are not engaged by the "hammer spring", they are engaged by the trigger sear. Otherwise, excellent demonstration.
Could the trigger seer be worn out simultaneously do you think. It’s a long shot. I think he’s lying, personally. He definitely put his finger on the trigger somehow for sure.
@@fistfighter2652 If the tip of trigger/sear were indeed broken off, it surely should have been obvious the last time the armorer handled the firearm.
Same for the leg of the trigger spring and the notches in the hammer, themselves.
I've been shooting/carrying single action revolvers for over 20 years, and I've never had either of these happen to any of my guns. I've had the bolt leg of the spring break. I've had the bolt leg itself break. I've had a hand spring break, but never anything that could cause what Alec claims to have happened, to happen.
Hopefully that gun is being closely examined and guarded so that we'll know for certain whether or not he is telling the truth.
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Trigger sear is in a hammer less pistol. Hammer spring is proper term for hammer revolver. I'm pretty sure
@@bigrob6076 "sear" generically refers to whatever mechanical interlock surface which functions to hold the firing mechanism in the energized position. For a hammer fire weapon, this is what locks the hammer back against the hammer spring. For a striker fire weapon this is what holds the striker (firing pin) back against the striker spring.
I heard an attorney say that a single action firearm can get you in trouble... simply because the firearm takes intentional action to make it work.....really hard to fire a single action pistol accidently
Having owned and used one for 49 years, I can tell you it's impossible.
All of this means NOTHING, unless a loaded cartridge was in the gun. The armorer and the assistant director both said the gun was "COLD" [empty].
The real problem is, who intentionally brought live ammunition rounds onto the set? Someone in the crew or outside of it, purposely loaded that gun, and that is who needs to be criminally charged. Of course, he/she/them, proved that producers had cut corners on safety protocols when guns are on a set, otherwise that gun would have never been pointed at a persons direction. Sure, Baldwin needs to be charged cuz cutting corners and hiring the cheapest cutest friend of a friend as the armorer, was producers mistake. Poor girl, she will never again have a future in film after that…. But a little jail time will also give her a chance to realize she was not ready to be on her own there
he is either protecting himself from lawsuits or somebody else from accountability; more likely from lawsuits.
i think baldwin said he himself or a crew member was out live shooting the gun as target practice and im pretty sure baldwin said it was him. correct me if im wrong
I mean sure at the end of the day it’s the prop masters duty to make sure there’s no live ammo. But its also bald wins responsibility to be properly trained and practice proper gun safety. He should know what real bullets look like and should know to practice proper trigger discipline. I highly doubt that this would happen to people who take gun safety serious like Keanu reeves or Chris pine
@@codycurnutte7084 you’d be surprised.. in the army soldiers still have what we called accidental discharges. Even after clearing their weapon with someone else also viewing it and having a discharge… sometimes you get so used to looking at a empty chamber when it’s not out of habit our brain just skips right over what we saw until it’s too late. It’s also more the hammer being in question not the trigger. I’ve had similar weapons where often the hammer didn’t stop as intended due to overuse/abuse. Everyone who hasn’t seen the actual weapon used simply doesn’t know any of the facts and it’s all speculation. I’d urge people to stop from condemning anyone until a investigation has been concluded. This guy can only speculate that Alex did this or that.. he doesn’t know how the hammer was manipulated.. he can only guess based on his experience. He doesn’t have the same weapon so it’s not going to function exactly like the one used. Also telling the difference in ammunition is difficult for anti gun people. Weight was always a indicator for me.. but they look similar in many ways.. it’s not like they get special colors on the brass case to identify it as safe to use for this kinda stuff. It’s almost exactly the same.. typically it’s the tip of the round that changes in appearance. Again tho.. no evidence was used in the making of this video. I would wait till professionals have done their jobs before the rest of TH-cam makes more opinion videos trying to state “facts” without using any evidence.
@@YahshuaLovesMe or both since he's responsible for the whole production technically.
I've watched about 500 videos talking about this EXACT topic, and I'll keep watching them as long as TH-cam recommends them to me. Gun experts across the country all unanimously agree, Alex Baldwin lied.
My two thoughts on this tragedy. 1) Why was live ammo anywhere near the set? Whoever brought it shares the blame in this. 2) Why does a prop gun even need to be able to accept real ammo? Yes, I understand the desire to be as authentic as possible so the gun looks real. Why can't an authentic barrel be made with a non-standard caliber bore that will only accept a blank made to that caliber? A gun in a movie or TV show really only needs to do a few things. Look authentic. Make a 'bang' when it goes off. (Even that can be added in post production) And a puff of smoke (Again, can be added post production if need be, though may not look realistic) It doesn't need to accept real ammo to do these things.
My exact thoughts... what is up with American film making?
I've seen another video from a gun expert who claims that live ammo cannot "fit" into a prop gun. I wholeheartedly agree with you. The big question looming: What the hell was live ammo even doing on the set?
@@lorinwegand6324 the "gun expert" you watched is either lying about being an expert, or lying about whether live ammo will fit. A prop gun is just a gun used on set. This is how several deaths have occurred on set
Mike Tristano has supervised firearms on film sets for more than 30 years, keeping a close eye on the guns used during the filming of “The Purge,” “Harsh Times” and hundreds of other movies.
When it comes to guns and ammunition on sets, Tristano said, “the buck always stops” with the armorer, the licensed professional - sometimes credited as a “weapons master” - tasked with making sure movie firearms are safe and secure on set.
@@Masakari6 Thanks for the update.
A straight line you say?
*Laughs in 1000yds plus or milk jug challenge in simplicity
not to mention , that there should not have been live rounds on the movie set
Alec Baldwin has said some disgusting things about people over the years. I think Karma finally caught up to him. Sad that Halyna Hutchins lost her life because of his NEGLIGENCE.
that's a great demonstration but the more important question is, regardless of whether or not he pulled the trigger or not, why was there ANY projectile in that gun that when the gun was operated, would discharge and fire a lethal round on a movie set?
Baldwin is not a firearms expert, they had ones hired specifically for that set that failed to do there jobs. How was he supposed to know it wasn’t properly gone through.
Why was it ever pointed at her? They weren't even filming. Even if you know a gun is not loaded you still out of safe practice and good gun responsibility dont aim it at someone, particularly when they arent in a scene where the firearm was ment to be used.
@@davemartin9679 maybe he wasn’t holding it securely and it jumped when it fired?
There are a lot of people that don't like Baldwin for whatever reason. That's all this is.
@Daniel who has more liability the actor or the people who are supposed to be gun expert and are supposed to check every chamber throughly. How is the liability not on them. It’s there job not alecs. Dosnt matter if he is familiar with guns because it’s a film set not a gun range. That gun should’ve been checked over multiple times they just got lazy and someone died because of it.
And what if the trigger has a mechanical problem? So he picks up the gun, squeezes the trigger a little bit and lets it go (without him knowing it) and as soon as Baldwin pulls back the hammer, the gun fires because he pulled the trigger earlier while picking up the gun.
I have been shooting weapons since I was a teenager, I am now approaching 76. When I heard Mr. Baldwins interview I quickly went to my safe and took out me S&W .357 magnum and tried to replicate what he claimed happened. At no point could I duplicate what he claimed happened. Now this video using the exact type of gun Baldwin had tries to duplicate what Baldwin claims took place. Once again there was no way he could get the gun to fire without pulling the trigger. There is no way a gun can hit a target with a bullet if the gun is not pointed at the target. It all adds up to the fact that Alex Baldwin was lying, there is no other explanation. That TV video will be enough to convict him of a criminal act. He should have just kept his mouth shut.
What happened is most likely that Halyna saw him molesting women/children on the set. Hes grade a molester, being a liberal. The man had to do what he did to keep the democrat molestation ring up and running. He is a murderer and a liar and should be put to jail for the rest of his life along with democrat supporters, although extermination camps would be faster and better. A final solution if I may.
Baldwin is a member of the club George Carlin famously talked about in his routines, so Baldwin will get away with it. Kim Foxes abound.
@@muhammedalitoya1505 Are you serious???😯 Everybody that don't share your political point of view should go to "extermination camps"?
@@muhammedalitoya1505 Kid, shush. Get your political talk out of here smh.
@@Sleepai btw anyone with anime profile pic are also going to the camps
the new Mexico prosecution will need to explain this to the jury before they find Alec guilty of what he will be charged with. Alec is rehearsing his testimony on national TV, I guess we can compare this testimony with the testimony when he is under oath in his trial.
NOT EVEN MY $99 HERITAGE single action will Go off by it's self. He is a LIAR... THANK YOU. love your content
Thanks for the support!
Thats funny you say that, when i started to watch this just now I went grabbed my heritage. Lol
Baldwin said he "never pulled the trigger." Maybe he simply depressed it, then held it in place while pulling back the hammer.
There are actually 3 mechanical situations that could lead to the events Baldwin describes: the gun had a broken sear, broken/worn sear notches in the hammer (as you say) or a broken/weak sear spring. These possibilities should all be easily verifiable in the investigation
It's going to be interesting to see what comes out of the investigation. It will be very awkward for Alec if they declare the gun completely functional.
Exactly, although unlikely there is a possibility that the firearm broke/had a mechanical failure for the reasons you listed. Although the fact that a live round made its way onto set, into a firearm and then into Baldwin's hands is such a colossal failure of safety protocols I am going to lean towards that he had his finger on the trigger. He may not be conscious of doing it but the odds are still that its operator failure and not a mechanical failure.
We’ll see
exactly
Am i the only one who noticed the gun (and diagram) he was using had a transfer bar, or that the hammer spring does not sit in the notches the sear on the trigger does that?
Being an owner of two Ruger single action revolvers, I knew he was making up a story for his benefit.
Soon as he picked the gun up and pointed it at her he was guilty its his responsibility to clear the gun and make it safe and not rely on anyone to do it for him
Kevin, thank you for saying that out loud!!!! Alec Baldwin is absolutely lying!!!