What if Vegeta got Ultra Ego EARLY? FULL STORY

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  • What if Vegeta Unlocked Ultra Ego Early? The Story of True Ultra Ego Vegeta.
    0:00 Tournament of Power
    0:30 Vegeta Unlocks Ultra Ego
    2:50 UE Vegeta vs Toppo
    5:00 UE Vegeta vs Jiren
    8:35 Broly Arc Begins
    10:20 UE Vegeta vs Broly
    12:05 Moro Arc Begins
    14:20 Beerus vs Moro
    17:35 True Ultra Ego is Born
    In the Tournament of Power, as Vegeta lies on a rock, facing destruction at the hands of Toppo. Toppo embarks wisdom onto Vegeta about letting go of his pride, and being willing to do what is necessary to save his universe. This time, Vegeta takes Toppo up on his advice, which allows him to ascend even further than Blue Evolution, as Vegeta unlocks Ultra Ego. And, through this journey, we will see what would happen is Vegeta unlocked Ultra Ego early, and just how much of the story would truly change.
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  • @JaylonDBZ
    @JaylonDBZ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    Just some future videos that I have planned for the channel:
    - What if Cell Max was PERFECTED
    - What if Frieza TRAINED after Namek
    - What if Gohan TRAINED after Cell
    - What if Humans were ACTUALLY useful
    Hope you enjoyed this one and stick around till the next one!

    • @fatmont588
      @fatmont588 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Thank you more more please

    • @JaylonTheory
      @JaylonTheory  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@fatmont588will do, thanks for watching!

    • @rapidcougar3785
      @rapidcougar3785 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@JaylonTheory can you do what if goku was a ki dragon slayer and a ki demon slayer at buu arc and becomes a ki God slayer around battle of gods

    • @rapidcougar3785
      @rapidcougar3785 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@JaylonTheory can you do what if goku was a ki dragon slayer and a ki demon slayer at buu arc and becomes a ki God slayer around battle of gods

    • @mookeysshow5093
      @mookeysshow5093 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rapidcougar3785 what

  • @Cheese-Slime-Sheriff
    @Cheese-Slime-Sheriff 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    Therapist: I think we need to deal with your ego, Vegeta…
    Vegeta: Exactly, it needs to be bigger.

    • @JaylonTheory
      @JaylonTheory  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Lmaooo, pretty much in a nutshell!

    • @Cheese-Slime-Sheriff
      @Cheese-Slime-Sheriff 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@JaylonTheory I MUST BE TOTALLY SELF ABSORBED!
      - Vegeta’s last words before getting kicked out of the friend group

  • @jetcrash1485
    @jetcrash1485 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +100

    technically vegeta wouldn't get the form since he had 0 god of destruction training at the time, remember he trained with beerus to learn bout the powers of a destroyer

    • @JaylonTheory
      @JaylonTheory  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

      I think the ultra ego is a mindset, and Hakai can be used without training (Goku does it, although it’s a one off thing). But I could agree with going with he couldn’t get it without training with Beerus!

    • @jetcrash1485
      @jetcrash1485 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@JaylonTheory hmm that's interesting take, either I'm satisfied with the video

    • @mushroom11g55
      @mushroom11g55 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@JaylonTheory the thing is, Goku tried to copy it and failed, it has to be trained, it's harder than it looks. There's a difference between copying someone by eye, and actually getting trained by a master.

    • @theevilben666
      @theevilben666 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      My head cannon says if vegeta and goku switched places when freeza tried to hakai Goku, he could have maybe took in s9me of the destruction energy the way goku absorbed God Ki and reta9ned his powers. And I say this would work as we are told Vegeta achieved God hood through training alone and not through the ritual.

    • @theevilben666
      @theevilben666 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thing is Goku can do just about any technique in the show just by witnissing it once. It is what makes him a genius at fighting. Roshi used the Kamehameha on the mountain and goku tried just for laughs and did it, albiet weaker version.​@mushroom11g55

  • @TrevorD19
    @TrevorD19 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    Shouldve had Goku go into MUI instead of blue just like the movie teased. If you paid attention, his hair does turn silver for about 2 seconds.

    • @JaylonTheory
      @JaylonTheory  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Could have, the Broly movie transformations where some of the coolest I’ve ever seen animated!

    • @MinhLe19303
      @MinhLe19303 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I doubt it. It seems to be just visual quirk from the movie, as we did see Vegeta's hair goes from transition to green and then golden as he finished his SSJ transformation, even though it doesn't make much sense.

    • @loganbreau882
      @loganbreau882 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I mean Goku wouldn’t be getting extra Whis training that he wouldn’t have already gotten in canon. Basically Whis was hooked by Goku unlocking UI, but unlike Meerus he doesn’t understand Mortals and thus his teachings will always be limited by that. Basically Meerus is a better teacher for how Mortals unlocks and understands the fundamentals of UI, but Whis is the better teacher to explain the intermediate and advanced levels of UI.

  • @DungLe-qx7vy
    @DungLe-qx7vy 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Moro might lose against Ultra Ego Vegeta right after he escaped since he was already weakened and Hakai energy are technically toxic to him so he can't really absorb energy of destruction. Although i absolutely love the idea of True Ultra Ego

    • @yung2o365
      @yung2o365 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I thought opposite, that's why Whis didn't want Beerus to fight Moro

  • @liftfreakzz
    @liftfreakzz 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Man this would be badass fr 🔥

    • @JaylonTheory
      @JaylonTheory  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m saying! Thanks for watching 🙏🏼

  • @grimeytfg
    @grimeytfg 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I loved the abrupt ending it made me laugh 10/10 video!

    • @JaylonTheory
      @JaylonTheory  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I had an outro but it felt like it didn’t add anything. Just the stereotypical “if you liked the video please subscribe” youtuber stuff😂

  • @somerandomsusanoo9323
    @somerandomsusanoo9323 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Awesome video!

    • @JaylonTheory
      @JaylonTheory  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you so much for the support! I really appreciate it, and also thanks for stopping by as well!

  • @su93r62
    @su93r62 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Goated vid 🐐

    • @JaylonTheory
      @JaylonTheory  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Really appreciate that! Thanks for stopping by and watching!

  • @ayman-brawlstars1595
    @ayman-brawlstars1595 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice vid man

    • @JaylonTheory
      @JaylonTheory  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Appreciate it! Thanks for stopping by and watching! Hope you enjoy my videos in the future as well!

  • @mushroom11g55
    @mushroom11g55 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I dont think the gods would stand up for Ultra Ego since they all have it. They stand for Ultra Instinct because thats unattainable for them.

    • @JaylonTheory
      @JaylonTheory  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Possibly, Beerus stands a few times during the tournament even aside from UI Goku, but, you could also say that they wouldn’t true true

    • @mushroom11g55
      @mushroom11g55 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@JaylonTheory yeah, Beerus would stand and cheer for sure, but nobody gave Toppo a standing ovation for his Ultra Ego.

    • @frostdiamond7798
      @frostdiamond7798 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Toppo didn't ever get ultra ego it was just destroyer state ultra ego is destroyer state + going stronger when getting damaged

    • @frostdiamond7798
      @frostdiamond7798 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Also ue is hardly achievable between mortals

    • @mushroom11g55
      @mushroom11g55 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @frostdiamond7798 the G.O.D.s have Ultra Ego, it's hard to impress them because of that ego.

  • @benjaminbebans4974
    @benjaminbebans4974 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    11:43 Cheelai and Lemo don't would be capabble to summon Shenron because Broly never attacked Frieza so Frieza would stop them

  • @TheGam1ngTr1ko
    @TheGam1ngTr1ko 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Vegeta the goat

  • @arankhder634
    @arankhder634 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    good one do more vegeta like what if vegeta got ultra insict or if he was first withe super sayian

    • @JaylonTheory
      @JaylonTheory  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Will definitely add those to the list!

  • @chrisdash5917
    @chrisdash5917 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Ultra Ego Vegeta 💜💜

    • @JaylonTheory
      @JaylonTheory  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      One of the best characters imo!

    • @chrisdash5917
      @chrisdash5917 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@JaylonTheory Facts 💜💜

  • @bunmiogundolawa4752
    @bunmiogundolawa4752 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The ending of the video is so un expected

  • @fatmont588
    @fatmont588 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you please drop the Perfect Cell Max I’ve been waiting forever

  • @Crucial_4orce
    @Crucial_4orce 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Ultra Ego is broken. Vegeta literally can catch up in strength to an adversary and finish them but the writers ain't letting that happen.

    • @JaylonTheory
      @JaylonTheory  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Seems like with the new Chapter and him fighting Broly maybe that will change soon!

    • @PhatomKevinplayz_
      @PhatomKevinplayz_ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@JaylonTheorydo you think beast gohan is stronger then tui goku and UE vegeta? Since just by transforming he destroyed the area around him

    • @Crucial_4orce
      @Crucial_4orce 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JaylonTheory eh we will see

    • @Crucial_4orce
      @Crucial_4orce 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@JaylonTheory Vegeta always gets the Vegeta treatment

    • @Fugitive685
      @Fugitive685 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Vegeta has a genetical ability where if he gets his ass beat he comes back stronger.
      Vegeta has a transformation where if he is, at the moment, getting his ass beat, he gets stronger.
      Guess what? HE STILL GETS HIS ASS BEAT

  • @hypexstar6058
    @hypexstar6058 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    ur to underrated

    • @JaylonTheory
      @JaylonTheory  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Means a lot to me! I appreciate you for watching and hope you enjoy the videos in the future!

  • @Daki96
    @Daki96 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    nice video man, black hair and yellow eyes Vegeta would be soo cool to see

    • @JaylonTheory
      @JaylonTheory  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for watching! Agree 100%!

  • @shadow.editzz___
    @shadow.editzz___ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bro gonna become a great youtuber❤ stay high📈📈 save the name "Shadow"

    • @JaylonTheory
      @JaylonTheory  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Really appreciate that! Will definitely remember 🔥

  • @CursedkingRyomen
    @CursedkingRyomen 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It’s crazy u say it goes the same when goku just got this form to so the way u made Vegeta was kinda unfair 7:41

    • @JaylonTheory
      @JaylonTheory  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I guess you could say Vegeta unlocks Ultra Ego again, but by the time Toppo gets eliminated I believe only Jiren was left standing, and Goku had used UI Sign twice by that point (1st with Jiren, 2nd with Kefla).

  • @jetcrash1485
    @jetcrash1485 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    maybe if he train around the end of the goku black arc

    • @JaylonTheory
      @JaylonTheory  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Can agree on that!

  • @jackbus4841
    @jackbus4841 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    this guy don't deserve 247 subs he deserves 247 million subs

    • @JaylonTheory
      @JaylonTheory  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Maybe one day I’ll get there haha! But in all seriousness thanks for supporting, I’m glad you enjoyed the story!

  • @Sir.BlackHole
    @Sir.BlackHole 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Ultra Ego vegeta would absolutely destroy Jiren alone

    • @JaylonTheory
      @JaylonTheory  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Possible, but also, the Vegeta in the Granola Arc has trained with the Yardrats and Beerus, so base to base Vegeta is a bit weaker here

    • @yashdave7559
      @yashdave7559 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@JaylonTheory well then results would as same as mui goku vs jiren

    • @yashdave7559
      @yashdave7559 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@JaylonTheory and buddy goku also want through training like vegeta
      Goku trained with meerus and whis while vegeta trained with yadraatants and beerus still they are were even
      In top goku also had no training for ui
      So
      Top mui >= ue vegeta top

    • @blank76686
      @blank76686 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@yashdave7559i think you don't know that ultra ego vegeta is stronger than mui Goku. Goku mui got one taped by granola but ultra ego almost defeated granola , but you can say that for TOP since Vegeta didn't train hakai from beerus

    • @yashdave7559
      @yashdave7559 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@blank76686 goku also didn't train for ui

  • @NeCoruption
    @NeCoruption 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You messed something up. Broly fought frieza for an entire HOUR before the dragon was gathered and a wish was made. Goku and vegeta might have finished Broly off before the wish was even thought of

    • @JaylonTheory
      @JaylonTheory  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The Dragon Balls were already gathered (Frieza didn’t decide to descend to the Earth until this was confirmed).
      Once arriving, Frieza allowed Goku and Vegeta to fight with Broly for entertainment sake.
      However, from what I remember, the only reason anyone thinks to summon shenron, is because Gogeta Blue was about to kill Broly and they wanted to save his life. And it was not a time restraint that kept them from making the wish.

    • @NeCoruption
      @NeCoruption 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@JaylonTheory hmm you right. The only thing to consider is maybe Vegeta by himself without the fusion of Goku influencing them to play with broly instead of finish him could be the difference here. Vegeta might finish him before they can summon shenron still since Goku's mind isn't there to convince him not too

  • @user-ew7fv9tc6p
    @user-ew7fv9tc6p 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    legend say it that the hakai energy is still going in the voiod world lol

  • @Jamstaro1
    @Jamstaro1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey! Love the what if. Hope youre having a wonderful new year!
    I do have a what if for you to explore. And its quite unusual.
    What if the goku black arc happened BEFORE beerus woke up.
    So for the conditions.
    Gokus max is ssj3
    Vegetas max is ssj2
    Trunks is trunks.
    Goku black is going to stay in ssj for a while before showing off godly rosé (basically ssg but pink. I wanted to use it more for ambushing since the protags cant sense godki.)
    Zamasu is zamasu and will do zamasu things.
    I think a fusion would be mandatory. But with trunks and vegeta making Trugeta (or Vegenks). While goku gathers energy from the present. Holds it in his body to time travel. And attempts something similar to what happened in the androids movie. But it isnt perfect and only slows zamasus regeneration... And as such forces their trump card for a fusion. Forcing a temporary retreat to try and stop them once and for all.
    I think itd be a really fun what if... You can use the template or go your own route with it!
    Always love listening to your what ifs when im stuck at work. Have a wonderful day.

    • @JaylonTheory
      @JaylonTheory  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wow, that’s actually a pretty unique idea! Will definitely add that to my list of videos, thanks!

  • @CasualSpec
    @CasualSpec 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If Vegeta unlocked UE earlier, his fight record in that form would be 0 - 4 instead of 0 - 3.
    Ultra Ego in TOP would've just start his losing streak earlier.
    Been watching this man get his ass beat for 30 years. Don't really see that pattern changing anytime soon.

    • @JaylonTheory
      @JaylonTheory  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah tbh just thinking like the writers probably would, even if he got the form Early he probably still wouldn’t win any major battles (maybe small temporary wins here and there, or tag teams).

    • @CasualSpec
      @CasualSpec 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@JaylonTheory Yup, pretty much gotta agree with what you just said.
      Don't get me wrong, Vegeta is one of the better written characters, but they just refuse to give him any real glory. He's always been the character to make the villain look good, which ultimately is designed to make Goku look good.
      For example, I'll give you the Moro arc. Gives Vegeta a character development arc, then gives him new ability, just for him to show up, get jobbed, then Goku wins.

  • @echoconyx2496
    @echoconyx2496 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Wouldn’t the chop to the neck beerus inflicted on Moro cause Moro to get beerus’s power?

    • @samajai4638
      @samajai4638 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Pretty sure he has to grab someone not just get touched by them

    • @apexpredatorace7056
      @apexpredatorace7056 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Moro needs to grab their neck to do that

    • @Black_Savage_God
      @Black_Savage_God 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @echoconyx2496 Moro has to grab the back of someones neck to take their ability nowhere was it stated that Moro gets his ability just by touching or getting touched

    • @JaylonTheory
      @JaylonTheory  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nah, he needs to touch someone in order to get there abilities, and based off the fact that Black Frieza doesn’t even rival Beerus yet, Moro has 0 chance of getting his hands on Beerus

  • @fatmont588
    @fatmont588 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What time does What if Pefect Cell come out

  • @rawwsteppaa
    @rawwsteppaa 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Should do what if goku found broly on planet vamp super early like cell games early

    • @JaylonTheory
      @JaylonTheory  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I do have a video coming in the future on Beerus finding Broly on Vampa, a little different but similar

  • @salimrehman2028
    @salimrehman2028 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ultra ego and Ultra instinct should merge for Vegeta now. Become one and beat up everyone.

    • @JaylonTheory
      @JaylonTheory  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think the only way to combine techniques like that is to pair ultra instinct with Destroyer abilities. That is probably what a hypothetical “Ultra Vegito” would do if they fused now.

  • @UnknownCPU1990
    @UnknownCPU1990 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Honestly, I think if he got UE early, ssbe would have ended up like ssj God

    • @JaylonTheory
      @JaylonTheory  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I honestly wonder if Akira Toriyama knew back then that UE was coming if he would have just gave that form to Vegeta instead all together

  • @Clbull118
    @Clbull118 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think Moro would have been quickly defeated in the rematch after Yardrat training, and that Granolah would have been killed before Gas and Elec became a threat. Freeza Black would have still happened, but I think Vegeta would have been able to take a few blows.

    • @JaylonTheory
      @JaylonTheory  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Can definitely agree with Moro. If Vegeta could catch up to Moro arc MUI Goku that early Moro would be no diff.
      It would really depend on if he could divert Vegeta and absorb his power somehow

  • @ngud_gaming267
    @ngud_gaming267 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Honestly blue evolution made a whole lot more sense because at the time vegeta wasn’t doing one on one training with beerus, he was still training under Whis mostly so he had no real destroyer power. Blue evolution is kind of like a precursor to ultra ego because it is blue fueled by pure pride and that’s the basis of ultra ego

    • @JaylonTheory
      @JaylonTheory  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You could definitely look at it that way. I don’t think Beerus is REQUIRED for Ultra Ego. However I do think he was the key player in pointing Vegeta in the right direction due to his understanding of how the power works.

    • @ngud_gaming267
      @ngud_gaming267 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JaylonTheory exactly you get it

  • @xrafaelarcade4473
    @xrafaelarcade4473 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wonder what vegeta mastered ultra ego will look like like toppos form from the t.o.p since it diffrent from what vegeta has

    • @JaylonTheory
      @JaylonTheory  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My theory is that they are moving closer to there ultra forms being there base forms.
      So the closer they get to mastering there ultra techniques and making it there own, the more it will resemble them in base. Which is why like MUI has silver hair (mimicking an Angle), but “TUI” has black hair, which is more align with Goku’s self and more unique to him.

  • @zippersnstitches9009
    @zippersnstitches9009 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    marrow

  • @Sam.el-mexicano_5
    @Sam.el-mexicano_5 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Video good but the starst kinda mkes no sence bro need to be teach to learn such power

  • @vendettabout2runup347
    @vendettabout2runup347 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He would match UI sign Goku t o p

    • @JaylonTheory
      @JaylonTheory  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agree 100%, he should at least be that strong

  • @Kakarot6204s
    @Kakarot6204s 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Kioken blue is not canon since it was introduced in a filler episode

    • @JaylonTheory
      @JaylonTheory  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lmao stop it

  • @miguelramos9274
    @miguelramos9274 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So months of training with beerus got vegeta that strong imagine if he just trained with him since dragon ball battle of gods bro would’ve erased frieza goku black zamasu and probably smack jiren

    • @JaylonTheory
      @JaylonTheory  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Honestly it would have been cool to see Beerus begin training Vegeta from the very start, he probably would have grasped Ultra Ego as early as his fight with Hit if I had to think about it, definitely would be way stronger than Goku Black or even Jiren around that time maybe

  • @Demo-man_tf2
    @Demo-man_tf2 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    FIRST to say FIRST

    • @JaylonTheory
      @JaylonTheory  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Appreciate you for stopping by and watching! 🔥

  • @dylonatkinson6054
    @dylonatkinson6054 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Uhm besides that vageta took out hakai energy with evolution blue so if he had ultra ego it would be too easy

    • @JaylonTheory
      @JaylonTheory  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Definitely would agree!

  • @parrotlord7393
    @parrotlord7393 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Technically Goku can’t turn Ssjblue x20 by Goku vs broly

    • @JaylonTheory
      @JaylonTheory  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I only mentioned X10, which Goku may objectively be able to do, since the Universe 6 tournament happens shortly after Revival of F.
      But for X20, he could use it in the Tournament of power (he uses Kio Ken against merged Zamasu but I don’t think we know the exact figure he used).

    • @parrotlord7393
      @parrotlord7393 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JaylonTheory Im saying he can’t cuz in the broly movie he can’t go Kaioken to fit with the manga

  • @antonioparente2751
    @antonioparente2751 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    actually ultra ego was stronger than mui (goku was beaten by granolah, while vegeta hold is own) in granolah arc so it should be massively stronger than mui in the tournament of power arc. I think it could one/two shot jiren.

    • @JaylonTheory
      @JaylonTheory  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The only reason I say he isn’t, is because inbetween that time Vegeta not only trained with the Yardrats (which significantly boosted his base form and put his perfected blue on par with UI Sign Goku), but also, he was taking lessons from Beerus inbetween that and the start of the Granola arc.
      So even base to base, Vegeta in the Granola arc would destroy ToP Vegeta, so UE should follow.
      But tbh, you never know, if he got UE I’m sure they would have written it to be as strong as MUI at that time!

    • @antonioparente2751
      @antonioparente2751 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      makes sense@@JaylonTheory

  • @epicgamersyt5345
    @epicgamersyt5345 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why did they give ultra ego? Just give god of destruction power like toppo

    • @JaylonTheory
      @JaylonTheory  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not sure, Perfected Super Saiyan Blue is also a manga exclusive counterpart to Blue Evolution and I have no idea why they were made different lol

  • @LyricalViking
    @LyricalViking 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Honestly Vegeta would of one shot Jiren lol

    • @JaylonTheory
      @JaylonTheory  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m sure they would have scaled UE to contend with MUI if it came out during the ToP officially, so maybe!

  • @RK19-89
    @RK19-89 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ridiculous

    • @JaylonTheory
      @JaylonTheory  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Other than the mindset barrier that Toppo overcame to unlock god of destruction power, and the mindset barrier Vegeta overcame to unlock Ultra Ego in the manga we really have no pther reason to believe this form requires anything other than that.
      (I can agree the Hakai is a stretch, however in the manga Goku uses this technique with no prior training)

    • @ZukafuuChill
      @ZukafuuChill 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Bro this is so good, what are you on about

  • @tynado7807
    @tynado7807 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Muro

  • @michaelmayers3622
    @michaelmayers3622 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Vegeta and goku are not legendary super sayians

    • @JaylonTheory
      @JaylonTheory  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      While Goku in the main cannon is the legendary Super Saiyan, in the story its more of an internal dialogue he has with himself!