Problem with Helman Ghorts campaign (and Vampire Counts in general I would say) is that they become extremely tedious and boring in the long run because zombies with Helman are extremely strong but absolute shit in autoresolve so what ends up happening is that you have to fight every single battle manually in order to avoid unit casualties. I recently did a Helman Ghorst campaign and it was super powerful and fun for the first 2 hours and then it was just doing the same thing over and over again, very long mosh pit with zombies battles that take forever and repeat.
@@Stefanbf2 must have tweaked the zombies value since I played it was along time ago. Alternatively you can just field pump out a billion armies, 3-4 full zombie stacks should win auto resolve, their are only around 800 gold for an entire stack on the hardest difficulty
It was really clever of CA to modify Helman's mechanics to make him specialize in using what is a low-tier, meat shield unit and make them something you use for the entire game. It really makes him unique among the Vampire Count lords so when you feel like triggering a zombie apocalypse, he's right there for you.
@@Barnesofthenorth i disagree, i would like to see more specialised factions. like seen with skaven, they have some differences but, also they get samey after a while. he is the zombie faction. von carstein you dont ever recruit zombies after teir 3 etc
one of the most fun campaigns ive had with the unkillable zombies. i remember sieging a dwarf fortress with a 20 stack in it and the zombies just dont die it was funny as hell how zombies were beating dwarves while being outbumbered.
I am loving this lane of content from you. It's clear, efficient, and concise. It also has a much more upbeat tone when you provide a critique for factions that need updates or reworks.
I still find it very strange that Ghorst got Magical Forest climate instead of Kemmler, considering the latter's exploits in Athel Loren. Hope they'll either both get it or they'll give it to Kemmler.
@@memesofwarhemmer7076 ...Well, yes. However, Khalida also got the Mountain climate that Khatep used to have along with her own preferred Jungle climate, so it's not exactly consistent.
I actually played some of this campaign last night. It's extremely satisfying seeing your zombies outlast and grind down everything when you throw a few corpse carts in for healing. I already took Nagashizar and now I'm trying to occupy 30 settlements to finish the short victory conditions.
I played Ghorst back when the healing cap was still busted. I'd expanded all the way up to Heralds of the Tempest in the north, and all the way to Teclis in the south before I called it quits. The zombies were absolutely immortal, the only thing they couldn't bring down easily was Imrik on his dragon. They murdered Kholek without issue, they took down Kroq Gar while he was leading a primeval glory army, it was very silly.
Ghorst was my first VC Win. Although the fights are all easy, it's fund to use the Mortis Engines and Corpse Carts. Plus, the massive pools of recruits via raise dead mean you don't have to build cities for recruitment.
i just befriend ghorst when i play greasus, much easier to let him have the non mountain settlements and at the same time he protects my south perfectly from anyone else
With Kugath on Legendary i usually take the my full province(build the resourse building and lvl 2 the capital) then i smash the ogres yo the west, meanwhile recruiting 2 exalted heroes and training then to lvl 4 for their mounts. After all that i smash ghorst, the heroes kill the carts super easy, another tip is don't waste Kugath ammo, wait for the blob
@@ssrgioz This is the way. Those Exalted Heroes dump all over the Mortis Engine and bitchslap Ghorst back to the grave. It's crazy you can get such a strong hero that early let alone two of them. Feels like people don't look at their settlements and building effects. Grave Guard can't cut through 15 units of Nurglings after they've been pelted by Ku'gath's ranged attack and a bunch of spells dropped on them.
Instant gaming actually has Forge of the Chaos Dwarves ! At -24% instead of -10% ! Thank you Legend ! (You probably should make a pinned comment as a correction too)
I checked after reading this and after applying VAT it came out as the exact same price as currently on steam (22.49). The discount is pre-vat so it essentially makes no difference.
@@wewlad-n1g Fun fact, instant gaming does NOT check where you are, and only asks you to pretty please tell the truth. They also point out that the activation code is NOT region locked. And miracle ! Switzerland has 0% VATs on instant gaming. Such a weird instance. Now whether you do that is up to you, but it wouldn't put me in switzerland by default (and I live in France, faaaar from the border) if that wasn't a very convenient 'issue' for them.
Glad to hear instant gaming is still supporting your content. I have used them in the past, and I'm glad they choose to gain publicity through content creators like yourself
You hit the nail on the head with your closing recommendation there, Legend. It's a GRIND! Particularly, due to fact that a lot of my army comprised of zombie crapstacks, auto resolve wasn't an option 95% of the time. Unfortunately, I don't get much value out of doing 30-40 turns, and prefer completion. IMO TW: Warhammer has always suffered in the late late game though.
I love Immortal Empires, but I very rarely make it to the endgame. It gets pretty tedious assigning endless skillpoints, and upgrading buildings is a chore. I wish there was at least a visual element to building up settlements, because I find the "city building" aspect of the game pretty lackluster. In its current state it's the equivalent of navigating a menu. Diplomacy isn't all that interesting either, while I'm at it. I also have extremely irritating camera issues. For whatever reason I cannot mouse scroll the campaign or battle map at the bottom of the screen. Left, Right, and Top all work fine, but when I have to use manual keyboard camera controls to move down. In battles, the camera often gets stuck when I'm trying to zoom in on some action at a distance, and I have to double click on a unit to force the camera to move. Very annoying. I also find it pretty annoying how the game doesn't explain in practical terms how any of the stats work. I had to watch videos on youtube to learn how melee attack and melee defense interact, what armor actually does, etc. I'd be hard pressed to explain to someone why I hate so many aspects of this game yet love it so much.
@@choronos you can tick the box on a lord or hero skill tree to auto assign points. I do this with heroes at about level 20 once I have everything I need in the main line.
I'm currently 105 turns into my H/H (it's a chill and kill campaign) Ghorst campaign. I've had about 3-5 hard battles so far. Azhag with 6 Big spiders vs a zombie spam, was a toughie, had to single target down the spider to cause a leadership shock to them, whilst trying to keep them off the necromancers who were keeping the leadership of the zombies in check. But so far I've painted about ½ of the map. At turn 105, im trying to take out, Daemons of Chaos, Azazel, Festus, Throgg, Reikland, Golden Order, The glade of Wood elves and trees. Fey Enchantress, Krog Gar and Tik Tak Toe. There is more or less a line going down the map on which the east side is all mine, apart from Cathay, and the west side is everyone else.
I'm doing something similar. I've allied with the tomb kings and chaos dwarves. Currently fighting four plus factions in the empire and dealing with croc gar and iron brows expedition in the south. I took out Cathay though. The campaign goal was "taking over China with a zombie apocalypse." It's gone a bit farther than that now. 🤣
Ghorst is like a tutorial campaign for the most basic vampire play (i.e. the skeely spam play from 2). He is absolute gold if you can confed him as manny as it would really speed up the books grind. I've actually neveranaged to confed him though, but i tried in the first 2 releases of ie and confeding was wierd back then
ghorst is probably my favourite vampire to play as, just getting the zombie tide rolling so early and the only thing that can really kill you is magic or extreme AOE attacks but you can dodge those
I like doing all Necromancers and no Vampires with Ghorst. Not the playstyle for everyone but you've got three other fun options for VC. I really hope CA doesn't nerf Ghorst.
IMO, Ghorst is the easiest campaign in IM at present. It's not hard to get access to raise dead pools that allow you to pump out stacks of 1-2 Crypt Ghouls, 1-2 Crypt Horrors, 1 Mortis Engine, The Necromancer Lord on an unholy lodestone cart, a Necro hero on a balefire cart, and the remainder can just be zombies. Ghorst is the last VC lord that can do the old WH2 style of doom blobbing + Mortis and WoD. Plus, every direction is pretty good territory for him to expand. Once the Chaos Dwarfs are released, I suspect that Ghorst is going to get a lot more challenging.
Main issue I have with vc in wc3. Is that your units can 'rise from the dead' even if you lose every single one in the same battle. I think it should be more conditional, like needing a surviving spellcaster in the army who can raise dead.
Currently playing his campaign, if you do it well, with the amount of resources near him you can get lots of trade deals with the cathay factions and secure your borders on your east while making an ungodly amount of money. That lets you focus on Kuggath and most importantly, conquer Nagashizzar.
Drown them in Skeletons. Bring two stacks for every one they have. Magic is useful and get some chariots to run all over their backline of ranged. Ushabti is another option and Tomb Scorpions if available. Just keep them away from Slayers.
Been using instant for ages, they generally have the best steam offer all year. Usually I always check between steam and instant and with a few exceptions, instant has what I want and a a better price. Only time I got screwed by instant was when making the w2 reserve as I didn't get norsca. But anyway, very good. Also I saw the chaos dwarfs there, I think it was 20-25% off, so definetly check it out.
Ghorst is crazy... i had to defend my settlements in the dark lands innumerable times against chaos, with daemons, chaos champions, knights of tzeentch etc... i basically just clogged them down with the garrison and some bloodline lords because i was too busy conquering other parts of the map with ghorst. Even without ghorst, the cost benefit was RIDICULOUS. Clog them down with a bunch of zombies after they breach the gate, and slowly drain them with all the combined corpse carts and mortis engines. Fighting against ghorst must be a nightmare if the AI knows what its doing
Ghorst is so hilariously powerful in WH3. Its like CA heard everyone ripping on their lord and took it personally. I've always liked Ghorst so Its fun to me, I do wish you could upgrade his corpse cart so his brothers sit on undead donkey skeletons so your top speed could move at the pace of anyone else's walking, but you cant win them all I suppose.
To paraphrase someone else, "Helman Ghorst is going to get buffed, because people suck" Nobody realized how good poison is, nobody realized how good a cart he has, and this intermingled with mp opinions. And CA cannot balance, they see everyone complaining or memeing about Ghorst and we got Ghorst 2.0
@@Riwillion I should clarify. I dont mean that "I want it so he can keep pace with the rest." I mean that "so his double time wont get outran by Chosen during their walk animation."
I've been watching your videos for some time now and I would love to get some idea on how confederation works since it is mentioned in a lot of your videos. I played warhammer 2 a lot but I don't think I've ever confederated any faction. It seems like the option to do so it's never available. Anyway, keep up the good work on the reviews hopefully one day we will get a confederation guide as good as these videos.
Another start - leave the Skaven for the moment and rush Ogres, so that you can intercept the caravans and get heaps of money, helps a lot in my campaign.
The only thing I hate about Vampire Counts is that their autoresolve is terrible. It feels like they assign a specific value to a unit (zombies in this case) and no matter how buffed that unit gets from outside sources, it doesn't change its value on autoresolve. Basically, you can just go with Ghorst and 19 zombies and wreck even most tier 3 stacked armies, but you lose the autoresolve even against tier 1 armies.
its because on paper zombies dont have armor or damage. and the game does not take into account 1000% healing cap you can get with helman so autoresolve sucks. i usually have like 10-15 zombies and some damage dealers just to help with autoresolve so i dont have to fight manually whole game
Yeah. It really needs to be fixed. I know it's hard to accurately quantify such stats but it's doable. They charge a lot of their game, it's the least they can do. It's an issue for lots of other campaigns as well. Auto resolve is very inaccurate a lot of the time.@@spatrk6634
At first release, people were like: "Helman who..?" Now every Warhammer player knows his name... It also never occurred to me that his name's just "Hell-Man Ghost" :p
I had fun with this campaign absolutely steamrolling in every direction, but it gets so damn tedious fighting the demons in the chaos wastes of the north. You need like 4 armies just to hold the front
Nurgle is such not a problem for Ghorst that even when the player plays as Nurgle Ghorst is the absolute worst enemy to have ontop of you who hates you. I like a Ghorst campaghin but the mobbing tactic of run in as a mob and mob all enemies down can get old kinda quick. But when you run into a dwarf lord ontop of a runeforge smashed your entire army and is unbreakable so even after his entire army is dead, he will AOE you down were a super hard fight against the expedition to the west.
Ghorst is not immune to plague attriton. Source: Kugath campaigns. If they target anything before Ravenous Dead for zombies CA it's a fail on the balancing side.
Warning to anyone playing this campaign. Bribe Imrik or he will wreck you as hard as you wreck Kugath. Damn guy tore through 3 Terrorgheists, 2 Crypt horrors, a Wight King, and my Lord before soloing the rest of my army.
He almost instakills vampire lords on nightmares, but you can actually kill him with zombie spam. Well, not kill him, but get him low enough that he will break after single-handedly wiping half of them lol. Of course killing his army first is required.
I findt it kinda sad that they still have not implemented getting All the factionwide boosts from legendary lords you confederate... should ofc also apply to A.I but i think it would make the game more fun and diverse
My three biggest gripes with tw now... - not able to get lords factionwide bonus outside the skill tree - not able to confederate factions as vampire coast or tomb kings pretty disappointing - the settlements look ugly as fuck when you occupy them, without changing appearance towards the race that conquered it
I have to have the mod where the settlements change depending on who owns them. And I never thought about getting the faction effects of confederated lords. That would be really cool.
Nurgle is such not a problem for Ghorst that even when the player plays as Nurgle Ghorst is the absolute worst enemy to have ontop of you who hates you. I like a Ghorst campaghin but the mobbing tactic of run in as a mob and mob all enemies down can get old kinda quick.
I think he showed back on wh2, that he had over 10000 hours on steam, but he said it wasn't completely accurate. I know that steam counts even if you tab out, and also all the loading screens and such.
Really liked Ghorst’s campaign. Extremely fun to take an ordinarily trash unit and turn them into a top tier one. The disadvantage is indeed as SR said though. Can’t AR anything, so campaign fatigue is real here. Otherwise lots of fun.
I think they should swap Kemmler and Ghorst, since kemmler has more capacity for armor-peircing with Krell, and he would be closer to Nagashizzar. Ghorst's campaign was fun, but i just called it quits after conquering Cathay and the Darklands.
I wonder if this campaign start will change in some way after the Chaos Dwarfs arrive. Maybe you should postpone any campaign start reviews around the Darklands until the DLC drops so you won't need to redo them in quick succession if any drastic sudden changes ends up happening on how those campaigns start.
I wish vampire counts could field more organized armies of undead. The mindless fodder zombies and basic ass skeleton warriors have their place, sure, but i'm not so big of a fan of vampires being so common that you can field armies of bloodknights nor do I like ending up with nothing but stacks of varghulfs and zombie dragons. Thematically, I just find that kind of silly, not to mention boring. I wish vampire counts had tiered skeletons kind of like Cathay has 3 tiers of everything. Basic skeleton warriors, some grave guard tier 2 or 3, including crossbowmen, and some other higher tier (black knights?) t4 melee infantry, crossbow infantry, cavalry, etc. I think vampire count armies being made up primarily of skeletons to make more sense to me thematically and leave the vampires to the status of lords and heroes. Instead its just a monster faction basically and I find that rather boring.
The challenge is having to manually fight every battle. It is tedious, but not much different than what I'd do with Kemmler. Still enjoy what he does to zombies. Just wish confeds were a little easier in WH3.
ya. i farmed the rats for like 15 turns, then took out all neighbors. I just blob up, got at least 1 necro in each army (have 6 armies, 2 on each front) stacked with zombies. as whatever attacks, simply spam zombies while i cruise my phone and lo! I win lol. like turn 35...
Funny enough, you can lose this campaign pretty early on. If you move really quick, take out the skaven and kugath and get into an eternal war with the ogre, you might run into grimgor who usually has a monsterous waggh headed your way, and your relations with him is extremely poor at best. Keeping the initial mortis engine is incredibly important because theyre the first faction you need to worry about having ranged units that can snipe them. Overall, I didnt find this campaign to be really fun. Unfortunately the large focus on zombies is rather monotonous, esp with the reliance on mortis engines, corpse cart and wind of death. I would recommend mannfred if players want a more engaging experience esp on VH +
Already bought Anno 1800 since it was on Epic. Demo'd Anno 2020 or whatever and fell in love. Steam is a comedy show! They transferred every exclusive game from Epic, except FortNite and Kingdom Hearts. What's Valve got against Donald and Goofy? :( They transferred Final Fantasy 7 remake, Assassins' Valhalla - but no Kingdom!
I still cannot believe how much Kugath gets shafted, his starting Position is terrible in so many ways and Ghorst seems custom made to counter him, while also getting his own contact-effects at turn one. Kugath gets his at the very end of his yellow skill line, nothing here makes sense. If anything, Kugath should be the one immune to contact effects, because he is a giant throbbing contact-effect, instead he starts as an artillery piece.... you know, the more I think about his the more mad I get, I´ll stop.
His starting position is fine with tons of ports close by. Ghorst is a pushover if you play smart. Get two Exalted Heroes to level 4 mounts and Ghorst is toast. I crubstomped Imrik, Ghorst and Greasus within 40 turns because none of them can cut through Nurgling masses. Lore of Nurgle is strong too. People just need to play better.
@@mandu6665 You forgot to mention his islandborders don´t allow for any plagues to spread within his starting province. Also, he runs out of climatically acceptable land pretty quick. Every Lord in the game is a pushover, if you play "smart", whatever that means, if I want to I can cheese a victory out of almost any battle, the game is pretty broken and unbalanced if you really mean it. Also, waiting to get 2 level 4 heroes before you can attack your immediate neighbor is lunacy, how do you play that slow and not realise his position is fucked? Does Ghorst never come for you? because his Army at turn 4 can beat yours easily, unless you know the game inside out.
@BruderRaziel you make a good point about ghorst taking effects that should be kugaths, and custom countering kugath. Nurgle is my favorite chaos faction, and kugath is my favorite nurgle lord. I always hear how terrible his start is, so I'm glad to at least get some tips on how to do it.
@@shorewall Nurgle would also be my favourite, if the faction was realised as it should be. Still, visually the faction is a blast, animations are great and all, but the actual effects they have(or rather dont have) on enemy troops and their surroundings is rather lackluster. For some real tips to get Kugath going: Rush him and your other caster to the spell that does single target damage over time. After you have your starting province complete you will probably have the choice to attack ghorst or sit around. If you attack another foe, Ghorst might come at a bad time. So I think it is best to prepare for this moment as best you can and try and defeat ghorst immediately, as soon as you can. Legend has a disaster battle where Kugath has to do this exact battle and he explains how to win it better than I ever could. In short: All your entities that can deal good damage to mortis engines need to fight the mortis engine and they need to be isolated if possible. If the fight becomes a big blobby grind or even 2 smaller blobs, you will lose, because ghost already has multiple damagin effects from turn one, while you will have 0. Expect to have multiple tries, the AI does not always cooperate and sometimes the blob just happens and cant be dissolved. But really, check out legends disaster battle, it is perfect for this situation.
@@Prushinthespirit depends on your taste, its my 2nd most played campaign, close to skaven at 1st. but i dislike that they nerfed WoD, overcastet it doesnt kill most units now if they are undamaged and this spell was a big part of the fun
@@biowiener7825 that WoD dependency was the reason I hated them. Made them the most one-trick faction in the game, with everything else being too grindy, slow and functioning the same way. Well, they didn't present anything to make up for WoD nerf, so they're like half-of-trick faction now. Ghorst is considered good just because he got that grinding aspect amplified to some nonsensical amount.
@@biowiener7825 They absolutely gutted the AP damage on it. The overcast doesn't add literally any AP anymore, so against units with 80+ armor, a base cast is just as effective. Overcast WoD went from dealing 90-95% of a Greatsword unit's HP, and instantly shattering them, to not even killing a single model, and leaving the unit with over half HP after that nerf.
Yeah, the campaign, even at legendary, is super easy because your zombies just don't ever die. You can just blob up and...well, that's about it. Your zombies will grind down nearly any opponent with ease, and by the time any of your neighbors become even the least bit scary, you've either defeated them or have so much territory and money you can just drown them in tides of zombies. No challenge whatsoever.
I played his campaign 1 time after your and okoii video about his doomstack and i had tons of fun, but yeah at 50-60 turns it just got boring, i was unstoppable (and i played on VH and Legendary) in the end was i just grinding armies on armies with hordes of zombies while i finished the campaign victory objective early on
The first challenge in this campaign is figuring out how you ended up in the Haunted Forest when you were looking for Nagashizzar.
Someone: it's southeast of the empire.
Ghorst: misses it and keeps heading to the ocean.
Ghorst: that guy was full of crap!
What can he say, he needed to go for one badly, and theres no life around nagashizzar so no tree's to go behind..
Must have taken a wrong turn at Albuquerque
You know dudes dont like to ask for directions even when they are lost
Does occupying Nagashizzar grant anything? I remember it being in WH2, and it being a total PITA to get to.
Problem with Helman Ghorts campaign (and Vampire Counts in general I would say) is that they become extremely tedious and boring in the long run because zombies with Helman are extremely strong but absolute shit in autoresolve so what ends up happening is that you have to fight every single battle manually in order to avoid unit casualties. I recently did a Helman Ghorst campaign and it was super powerful and fun for the first 2 hours and then it was just doing the same thing over and over again, very long mosh pit with zombies battles that take forever and repeat.
That is how I felt with siege battles in the first game. Such a slog.
but do you need to avoid casualties? You can garantee lots of zombies in the raise dead pool with research they meant to be replaceable
@@Esberns Because autoresolve = defeat in almost every fight
Somewhat ironically, Ku'gath has the same problem with Nurglings in autoresolve.
@@Stefanbf2 must have tweaked the zombies value since I played it was along time ago. Alternatively you can just field pump out a billion armies, 3-4 full zombie stacks should win auto resolve, their are only around 800 gold for an entire stack on the hardest difficulty
It was really clever of CA to modify Helman's mechanics to make him specialize in using what is a low-tier, meat shield unit and make them something you use for the entire game. It really makes him unique among the Vampire Count lords so when you feel like triggering a zombie apocalypse, he's right there for you.
It would have been fun if it was just him, making it faction wide is a bit much.
@@Barnesofthenorth i disagree, i would like to see more specialised factions.
like seen with skaven, they have some differences but, also they get samey after a while.
he is the zombie faction. von carstein you dont ever recruit zombies after teir 3 etc
@@Barnesofthenorth it only makes sense if its faction wide though, else its just a regular vampire counts faction.
one of the most fun campaigns ive had with the unkillable zombies. i remember sieging a dwarf fortress with a 20 stack in it and the zombies just dont die it was funny as hell how zombies were beating dwarves while being outbumbered.
I am loving this lane of content from you. It's clear, efficient, and concise. It also has a much more upbeat tone when you provide a critique for factions that need updates or reworks.
I still find it very strange that Ghorst got Magical Forest climate instead of Kemmler, considering the latter's exploits in Athel Loren. Hope they'll either both get it or they'll give it to Kemmler.
Well he is now living on a magical forest would be weird him being weak against his own lands lol😅
@@memesofwarhemmer7076 ...Well, yes. However, Khalida also got the Mountain climate that Khatep used to have along with her own preferred Jungle climate, so it's not exactly consistent.
@@HiddenEvilStudios Good point
@Memes of warhemmer you got Boris who doesn't like his starting climate but its a bit offset due to his faction traits
@@memesofwarhemmer7076 that sounds like it's thematic for his story though. Starting off with everything going wrong...
I actually played some of this campaign last night. It's extremely satisfying seeing your zombies outlast and grind down everything when you throw a few corpse carts in for healing. I already took Nagashizar and now I'm trying to occupy 30 settlements to finish the short victory conditions.
I played Ghorst back when the healing cap was still busted. I'd expanded all the way up to Heralds of the Tempest in the north, and all the way to Teclis in the south before I called it quits. The zombies were absolutely immortal, the only thing they couldn't bring down easily was Imrik on his dragon. They murdered Kholek without issue, they took down Kroq Gar while he was leading a primeval glory army, it was very silly.
Ghorst was my first VC Win. Although the fights are all easy, it's fund to use the Mortis Engines and Corpse Carts. Plus, the massive pools of recruits via raise dead mean you don't have to build cities for recruitment.
Ghorst is the main reason why playing as Ku'gath and Greasus is a nightmare.
i just befriend ghorst when i play greasus, much easier to let him have the non mountain settlements and at the same time he protects my south perfectly from anyone else
With Kugath on Legendary i usually take the my full province(build the resourse building and lvl 2 the capital) then i smash the ogres yo the west, meanwhile recruiting 2 exalted heroes and training then to lvl 4 for their mounts. After all that i smash ghorst, the heroes kill the carts super easy, another tip is don't waste Kugath ammo, wait for the blob
I thought it was the part where Nurgle is just super unfun to play in general because the roster is slow and boring
Shouldnt be too hard to wipe him out at the start
@@ssrgioz This is the way. Those Exalted Heroes dump all over the Mortis Engine and bitchslap Ghorst back to the grave. It's crazy you can get such a strong hero that early let alone two of them. Feels like people don't look at their settlements and building effects. Grave Guard can't cut through 15 units of Nurglings after they've been pelted by Ku'gath's ranged attack and a bunch of spells dropped on them.
Instant gaming actually has Forge of the Chaos Dwarves ! At -24% instead of -10% ! Thank you Legend ! (You probably should make a pinned comment as a correction too)
Commenting to boost visibility
its region locked to europe
I checked after reading this and after applying VAT it came out as the exact same price as currently on steam (22.49). The discount is pre-vat so it essentially makes no difference.
@@wewlad-n1g Fun fact, instant gaming does NOT check where you are, and only asks you to pretty please tell the truth. They also point out that the activation code is NOT region locked. And miracle ! Switzerland has 0% VATs on instant gaming. Such a weird instance.
Now whether you do that is up to you, but it wouldn't put me in switzerland by default (and I live in France, faaaar from the border) if that wasn't a very convenient 'issue' for them.
@@playwars3037 very interesting, I'll keep that in mind in future (already just bought it lol). That's amazing to know
In lore: a random character in corpse cart entry
in TWWH: Bringer of end time. master of zombies is unbreakable.
Glad to hear instant gaming is still supporting your content. I have used them in the past, and I'm glad they choose to gain publicity through content creators like yourself
You hit the nail on the head with your closing recommendation there, Legend.
It's a GRIND!
Particularly, due to fact that a lot of my army comprised of zombie crapstacks, auto resolve wasn't an option 95% of the time.
Unfortunately, I don't get much value out of doing 30-40 turns, and prefer completion. IMO TW: Warhammer has always suffered in the late late game though.
I love Immortal Empires, but I very rarely make it to the endgame. It gets pretty tedious assigning endless skillpoints, and upgrading buildings is a chore. I wish there was at least a visual element to building up settlements, because I find the "city building" aspect of the game pretty lackluster. In its current state it's the equivalent of navigating a menu. Diplomacy isn't all that interesting either, while I'm at it. I also have extremely irritating camera issues. For whatever reason I cannot mouse scroll the campaign or battle map at the bottom of the screen. Left, Right, and Top all work fine, but when I have to use manual keyboard camera controls to move down. In battles, the camera often gets stuck when I'm trying to zoom in on some action at a distance, and I have to double click on a unit to force the camera to move. Very annoying. I also find it pretty annoying how the game doesn't explain in practical terms how any of the stats work. I had to watch videos on youtube to learn how melee attack and melee defense interact, what armor actually does, etc.
I'd be hard pressed to explain to someone why I hate so many aspects of this game yet love it so much.
@@choronos agreed. That's why I can play a Beastmen campaign into late game. Civilization bad.
@@choronos you can tick the box on a lord or hero skill tree to auto assign points. I do this with heroes at about level 20 once I have everything I need in the main line.
@@leosalonen1564 Oh nice. I knew you can do that with the tech tree but I didn't realize you can do it with skillpoints.
I honestly really love these kinds of videos where you review the campaigns, unfortunate that it's a finite concept, though. but keep up the good work
I'm currently 105 turns into my H/H (it's a chill and kill campaign) Ghorst campaign. I've had about 3-5 hard battles so far. Azhag with 6 Big spiders vs a zombie spam, was a toughie, had to single target down the spider to cause a leadership shock to them, whilst trying to keep them off the necromancers who were keeping the leadership of the zombies in check. But so far I've painted about ½ of the map. At turn 105, im trying to take out, Daemons of Chaos, Azazel, Festus, Throgg, Reikland, Golden Order, The glade of Wood elves and trees. Fey Enchantress, Krog Gar and Tik Tak Toe. There is more or less a line going down the map on which the east side is all mine, apart from Cathay, and the west side is everyone else.
I'm doing something similar. I've allied with the tomb kings and chaos dwarves. Currently fighting four plus factions in the empire and dealing with croc gar and iron brows expedition in the south. I took out Cathay though. The campaign goal was "taking over China with a zombie apocalypse." It's gone a bit farther than that now. 🤣
Ghorst is like a tutorial campaign for the most basic vampire play (i.e. the skeely spam play from 2).
He is absolute gold if you can confed him as manny as it would really speed up the books grind.
I've actually neveranaged to confed him though, but i tried in the first 2 releases of ie and confeding was wierd back then
ghorst is probably my favourite vampire to play as, just getting the zombie tide rolling so early and the only thing that can really kill you is magic or extreme AOE attacks but you can dodge those
Zombies never dodge
I like doing all Necromancers and no Vampires with Ghorst. Not the playstyle for everyone but you've got three other fun options for VC. I really hope CA doesn't nerf Ghorst.
Gotta give love to the neck romancers, also wight kings, they really help when you have to deal with someone like grimgor
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Wig kings
@@usuallysalty4018 thats part of their horror effect lol
IMO, Ghorst is the easiest campaign in IM at present. It's not hard to get access to raise dead pools that allow you to pump out stacks of 1-2 Crypt Ghouls, 1-2 Crypt Horrors, 1 Mortis Engine, The Necromancer Lord on an unholy lodestone cart, a Necro hero on a balefire cart, and the remainder can just be zombies. Ghorst is the last VC lord that can do the old WH2 style of doom blobbing + Mortis and WoD. Plus, every direction is pretty good territory for him to expand. Once the Chaos Dwarfs are released, I suspect that Ghorst is going to get a lot more challenging.
Really looking forward to the Chaos Dwarfs. I think their presence is going to breathe a lot of life into the Immortal Empires map.
Sorry but why the balefire?
I always thought the bell was way better for the heal (for deathstars with mortis engine).
Main issue I have with vc in wc3. Is that your units can 'rise from the dead' even if you lose every single one in the same battle.
I think it should be more conditional, like needing a surviving spellcaster in the army who can raise dead.
Currently playing his campaign, if you do it well, with the amount of resources near him you can get lots of trade deals with the cathay factions and secure your borders on your east while making an ungodly amount of money. That lets you focus on Kuggath and most importantly, conquer Nagashizzar.
What is landmark for Ghorst in Nagashizzar do?
@@Ax_Dj0 The same one all vampires get. 5% physical resistance (all armies) and -20% spell costs (all armies).
@@ruukinen Thanks
Would love to see a High Queen Khalida review, tried it out recently but can't seem to deal with the dwarfs!
You can usually get a non aggression pact with them or they get wiped by the skaven and/or the orcs and Settra
Drown them in Skeletons. Bring two stacks for every one they have. Magic is useful and get some chariots to run all over their backline of ranged. Ushabti is another option and Tomb Scorpions if available. Just keep them away from Slayers.
@@mandu6665 Blasting charges completely destroying skeletons is the main issue for me
Been using instant for ages, they generally have the best steam offer all year. Usually I always check between steam and instant and with a few exceptions, instant has what I want and a a better price. Only time I got screwed by instant was when making the w2 reserve as I didn't get norsca. But anyway, very good. Also I saw the chaos dwarfs there, I think it was 20-25% off, so definetly check it out.
Would really enjoy watching you stream some Anno 1800
A anno 1800 legend style video would be amazing👌
Nice, another top tier lord I’ve been waiting for. Helman Ghorst is actually so good.
in a non flashy sort of way
Anno is one of fav series and 1800 brought it to a new golden age.
Love that I was able to do an ordertide campaign with him, alliying up with all cathay in a jiffy.
Ghorst is crazy... i had to defend my settlements in the dark lands innumerable times against chaos, with daemons, chaos champions, knights of tzeentch etc... i basically just clogged them down with the garrison and some bloodline lords because i was too busy conquering other parts of the map with ghorst. Even without ghorst, the cost benefit was RIDICULOUS. Clog them down with a bunch of zombies after they breach the gate, and slowly drain them with all the combined corpse carts and mortis engines.
Fighting against ghorst must be a nightmare if the AI knows what its doing
Ghorst is so hilariously powerful in WH3. Its like CA heard everyone ripping on their lord and took it personally.
I've always liked Ghorst so Its fun to me, I do wish you could upgrade his corpse cart so his brothers sit on undead donkey skeletons so your top speed could move at the pace of anyone else's walking, but you cant win them all I suppose.
You can do that with locked groups.
Yeah... really wish Ghorst had his own custom Brothers Ghorst Mortis engine
To paraphrase someone else, "Helman Ghorst is going to get buffed, because people suck" Nobody realized how good poison is, nobody realized how good a cart he has, and this intermingled with mp opinions. And CA cannot balance, they see everyone complaining or memeing about Ghorst and we got Ghorst 2.0
@@Riwillion I should clarify. I dont mean that "I want it so he can keep pace with the rest." I mean that "so his double time wont get outran by Chosen during their walk animation."
Do you have a flag? (Of speed)
I've been watching your videos for some time now and I would love to get some idea on how confederation works since it is mentioned in a lot of your videos. I played warhammer 2 a lot but I don't think I've ever confederated any faction. It seems like the option to do so it's never available. Anyway, keep up the good work on the reviews hopefully one day we will get a confederation guide as good as these videos.
I'm so glad Legend also loves Anno 1800. Personally my favorite city builder of all time.
Another start - leave the Skaven for the moment and rush Ogres, so that you can intercept the caravans and get heaps of money, helps a lot in my campaign.
The only thing I hate about Vampire Counts is that their autoresolve is terrible. It feels like they assign a specific value to a unit (zombies in this case) and no matter how buffed that unit gets from outside sources, it doesn't change its value on autoresolve.
Basically, you can just go with Ghorst and 19 zombies and wreck even most tier 3 stacked armies, but you lose the autoresolve even against tier 1 armies.
its because on paper zombies dont have armor or damage.
and the game does not take into account 1000% healing cap you can get with helman
so autoresolve sucks.
i usually have like 10-15 zombies and some damage dealers just to help with autoresolve so i dont have to fight manually whole game
Yeah. It really needs to be fixed. I know it's hard to accurately quantify such stats but it's doable. They charge a lot of their game, it's the least they can do.
It's an issue for lots of other campaigns as well. Auto resolve is very inaccurate a lot of the time.@@spatrk6634
At first release, people were like: "Helman who..?"
Now every Warhammer player knows his name...
It also never occurred to me that his name's just "Hell-Man Ghost" :p
After playing Ghorst, I found my self wishing all the carts had a built in raise the dead.
Anno 1800 is on steam. Had to run it as admin to get it to work and it requires a ubisoft account to play online though
The chaos Dwarf DLC is available on instant gaming europe for 18 bucks
Instant gaming adds tax on at the basket, always something to keep in mind. So in the UK 20% gets added on when you go to pay
I had fun with this campaign absolutely steamrolling in every direction, but it gets so damn tedious fighting the demons in the chaos wastes of the north. You need like 4 armies just to hold the front
Did they take out the Mortis Engine from his campaign start?
So whens the Anno videos starting up? >.>
Funny I came to the same starting tactical conclusion too, go left first, then recruit new Lord to go right
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Does this work with the vampire coast zombies?
This area of the map is about to get a shake-up with the Chaos Dwarfs DLC, will you be doing an update?
How easy is it confederate him (and other vampires) as vampire count ?
Not gonna lie, I would prefer to play Ghorst as Isabella or mannfred :D
Nurgle is such not a problem for Ghorst that even when the player plays as Nurgle Ghorst is the absolute worst enemy to have ontop of you who hates you. I like a Ghorst campaghin but the mobbing tactic of run in as a mob and mob all enemies down can get old kinda quick. But when you run into a dwarf lord ontop of a runeforge smashed your entire army and is unbreakable so even after his entire army is dead, he will AOE you down were a super hard fight against the expedition to the west.
Hi. I dont have tww3, but i love and watch your vídeos since... What, Attila?
My question is: these buffs affect pirate coast zombies?
Ghorst is not immune to plague attriton. Source: Kugath campaigns.
If they target anything before Ravenous Dead for zombies CA it's a fail on the balancing side.
I'd love to see how you play Anno 1800 honestly, I bet there's so much cheese going on lol
Anno 1800 is fucking amazing. Wasted just as many university credit points on that one as I did on TWWH3.
Warning to anyone playing this campaign. Bribe Imrik or he will wreck you as hard as you wreck Kugath.
Damn guy tore through 3 Terrorgheists, 2 Crypt horrors, a Wight King, and my Lord before soloing the rest of my army.
He almost instakills vampire lords on nightmares, but you can actually kill him with zombie spam. Well, not kill him, but get him low enough that he will break after single-handedly wiping half of them lol. Of course killing his army first is required.
hey legend completely unrelated how do you feel about the chaos dwarfs pricepoint?
Not thrilled about it but having seen both sides of the argument the inflation argument holds up.
I findt it kinda sad that they still have not implemented getting All the factionwide boosts from legendary lords you confederate... should ofc also apply to A.I but i think it would make the game more fun and diverse
My three biggest gripes with tw now...
- not able to get lords factionwide bonus outside the skill tree
- not able to confederate factions as vampire coast or tomb kings pretty disappointing
- the settlements look ugly as fuck when you occupy them, without changing appearance towards the race that conquered it
I have to have the mod where the settlements change depending on who owns them.
And I never thought about getting the faction effects of confederated lords. That would be really cool.
Why are you not going over their unique items during these videos? Some of them have global bonuses etc.
Nurgle is such not a problem for Ghorst that even when the player plays as Nurgle Ghorst is the absolute worst enemy to have ontop of you who hates you. I like a Ghorst campaghin but the mobbing tactic of run in as a mob and mob all enemies down can get old kinda quick.
I wish VC had stronger auto resolve values. An entire campaign of manual battles is exhausting
Holly, Legend has 3000hr in Anno 1880?? How long does he have on Wh series is unthinkable.
I think he showed back on wh2, that he had over 10000 hours on steam, but he said it wasn't completely accurate.
I know that steam counts even if you tab out, and also all the loading screens and such.
Damm... those zombies get crazy!
1:37 playtime: 3175h; campaign progression: 0% - you really do like a sandbox experience, don't you Legend?😄
Can I buy Warhammer dlc from your sponsor website and bring to steam?
it should say what platform the dlc can be activated on. most of the total war warhammer stuff is steam keys. make sure you double check.
Really liked Ghorst’s campaign. Extremely fun to take an ordinarily trash unit and turn them into a top tier one.
The disadvantage is indeed as SR said though. Can’t AR anything, so campaign fatigue is real here. Otherwise lots of fun.
Rakarth next maybe?
Certified forsenLevel campaign
@@holdinmcgroin8639 truly a forsenLevel moment
Can you make some video on anno 1800 plz
Hey Legend, would love to hear your take on Costin Gaming's video about Skarbrand. "Skarbrand, The Most Overhyped Legendary Lord".
I don't like to get involved in other people's opinions. He's entitled to believe whatever he wants.
Isn’t Ghorst gonna get a new starting location?
Does anyone know if the buffs to zombies count for summons?
it does not. summons are always just base stats
@@LegendofTotalWar thanks
Please make more anno content if possible. Im playing it as I watch this video
I got rolled by Chaos dwarfs late game, 5 dreadquakes blew up my whole zombie stack.
I think they should swap Kemmler and Ghorst, since kemmler has more capacity for armor-peircing with Krell, and he would be closer to Nagashizzar. Ghorst's campaign was fun, but i just called it quits after conquering Cathay and the Darklands.
Anno 1800 is in fact an amazing game.
I wonder if this campaign start will change in some way after the Chaos Dwarfs arrive. Maybe you should postpone any campaign start reviews around the Darklands until the DLC drops so you won't need to redo them in quick succession if any drastic sudden changes ends up happening on how those campaigns start.
It's all fun and games until unbreakable Grimgor comes a-knocking.
He can get grinded to death by mortis engine effect long before he cuts through thr infantry thrown at him.
I hope you make some videos about anno 1800😂
Anno 1800 is quality. I wish I had more time to game!
I wish vampire counts could field more organized armies of undead.
The mindless fodder zombies and basic ass skeleton warriors have their place, sure, but i'm not so big of a fan of vampires being so common that you can field armies of bloodknights nor do I like ending up with nothing but stacks of varghulfs and zombie dragons. Thematically, I just find that kind of silly, not to mention boring.
I wish vampire counts had tiered skeletons kind of like Cathay has 3 tiers of everything. Basic skeleton warriors, some grave guard tier 2 or 3, including crossbowmen, and some other higher tier (black knights?) t4 melee infantry, crossbow infantry, cavalry, etc.
I think vampire count armies being made up primarily of skeletons to make more sense to me thematically and leave the vampires to the status of lords and heroes. Instead its just a monster faction basically and I find that rather boring.
Legend should do a LegendofAnno channel. You'd be surprised with how many views you will get for the vids
Do Khalida next!
I love Anno1800 and I love Vampire Counts
The challenge is having to manually fight every battle. It is tedious, but not much different than what I'd do with Kemmler. Still enjoy what he does to zombies. Just wish confeds were a little easier in WH3.
Thanks for the video
ya. i farmed the rats for like 15 turns, then took out all neighbors. I just blob up, got at least 1 necro in each army (have 6 armies, 2 on each front) stacked with zombies. as whatever attacks, simply spam zombies while i cruise my phone and lo! I win lol. like turn 35...
Funny enough, you can lose this campaign pretty early on. If you move really quick, take out the skaven and kugath and get into an eternal war with the ogre, you might run into grimgor who usually has a monsterous waggh headed your way, and your relations with him is extremely poor at best. Keeping the initial mortis engine is incredibly important because theyre the first faction you need to worry about having ranged units that can snipe them. Overall, I didnt find this campaign to be really fun. Unfortunately the large focus on zombies is rather monotonous, esp with the reliance on mortis engines, corpse cart and wind of death. I would recommend mannfred if players want a more engaging experience esp on VH +
Already bought Anno 1800 since it was on Epic. Demo'd Anno 2020 or whatever and fell in love. Steam is a comedy show! They transferred every exclusive game from Epic, except FortNite and Kingdom Hearts. What's Valve got against Donald and Goofy? :( They transferred Final Fantasy 7 remake, Assassins' Valhalla - but no Kingdom!
It sounds like the AI needs to be programmed to create hard-counter anti-Ghorst armies.
Oh yes, he is fun for some time. Longer you play (which is a grind) , you just lose intrest in whole zombie run.
I still cannot believe how much Kugath gets shafted, his starting Position is terrible in so many ways and Ghorst seems custom made to counter him, while also getting his own contact-effects at turn one. Kugath gets his at the very end of his yellow skill line, nothing here makes sense. If anything, Kugath should be the one immune to contact effects, because he is a giant throbbing contact-effect, instead he starts as an artillery piece.... you know, the more I think about his the more mad I get, I´ll stop.
His starting position is fine with tons of ports close by. Ghorst is a pushover if you play smart. Get two Exalted Heroes to level 4 mounts and Ghorst is toast. I crubstomped Imrik, Ghorst and Greasus within 40 turns because none of them can cut through Nurgling masses. Lore of Nurgle is strong too. People just need to play better.
@@mandu6665 Most of us don't have that DLC. Least I don't so the exalted hero's are not an option
@@mandu6665 You forgot to mention his islandborders don´t allow for any plagues to spread within his starting province. Also, he runs out of climatically acceptable land pretty quick. Every Lord in the game is a pushover, if you play "smart", whatever that means, if I want to I can cheese a victory out of almost any battle, the game is pretty broken and unbalanced if you really mean it. Also, waiting to get 2 level 4 heroes before you can attack your immediate neighbor is lunacy, how do you play that slow and not realise his position is fucked? Does Ghorst never come for you? because his Army at turn 4 can beat yours easily, unless you know the game inside out.
@BruderRaziel you make a good point about ghorst taking effects that should be kugaths, and custom countering kugath. Nurgle is my favorite chaos faction, and kugath is my favorite nurgle lord.
I always hear how terrible his start is, so I'm glad to at least get some tips on how to do it.
@@shorewall Nurgle would also be my favourite, if the faction was realised as it should be. Still, visually the faction is a blast, animations are great and all, but the actual effects they have(or rather dont have) on enemy troops and their surroundings is rather lackluster.
For some real tips to get Kugath going: Rush him and your other caster to the spell that does single target damage over time. After you have your starting province complete you will probably have the choice to attack ghorst or sit around. If you attack another foe, Ghorst might come at a bad time. So I think it is best to prepare for this moment as best you can and try and defeat ghorst immediately, as soon as you can.
Legend has a disaster battle where Kugath has to do this exact battle and he explains how to win it better than I ever could. In short: All your entities that can deal good damage to mortis engines need to fight the mortis engine and they need to be isolated if possible. If the fight becomes a big blobby grind or even 2 smaller blobs, you will lose, because ghost already has multiple damagin effects from turn one, while you will have 0. Expect to have multiple tries, the AI does not always cooperate and sometimes the blob just happens and cant be dissolved.
But really, check out legends disaster battle, it is perfect for this situation.
Anno is amazing series.
It's Ghorsting time
His zombies are very very broken, and a full army of zombies can beat a full tier-2 army
The massive power boost CA gave Vampire Counts in WH 3 has ironically made them a bad faction. Its not fun playing them in campaign or in battles.
It's never been fun playing them in the first place...
@@Prushinthespirit VC was in my top-5 favourite in WH2, lizardmen never made it.
@@Prushinthespirit depends on your taste, its my 2nd most played campaign, close to skaven at 1st. but i dislike that they nerfed WoD, overcastet it doesnt kill most units now if they are undamaged and this spell was a big part of the fun
@@biowiener7825 that WoD dependency was the reason I hated them. Made them the most one-trick faction in the game, with everything else being too grindy, slow and functioning the same way.
Well, they didn't present anything to make up for WoD nerf, so they're like half-of-trick faction now. Ghorst is considered good just because he got that grinding aspect amplified to some nonsensical amount.
@@biowiener7825 They absolutely gutted the AP damage on it. The overcast doesn't add literally any AP anymore, so against units with 80+ armor, a base cast is just as effective.
Overcast WoD went from dealing 90-95% of a Greatsword unit's HP, and instantly shattering them, to not even killing a single model, and leaving the unit with over half HP after that nerf.
I heard a lot that Ghorst is a fun campain, I dont know why, but I get bored really quickly.
I don't know anything about anno 1800 and I would watch videos on it if you made them.
Yeah, the campaign, even at legendary, is super easy because your zombies just don't ever die. You can just blob up and...well, that's about it. Your zombies will grind down nearly any opponent with ease, and by the time any of your neighbors become even the least bit scary, you've either defeated them or have so much territory and money you can just drown them in tides of zombies. No challenge whatsoever.
That starting army would be so bloody strong in WH2, can't imagine in WH3
If you want to play legendary on easy mode play Helman Ghorst.
Blob Zombies. Never lose. Ever.
my first campaing in wh3... 20 turn victory :D
I played his campaign 1 time after your and okoii video about his doomstack and i had tons of fun, but yeah at 50-60 turns it just got boring, i was unstoppable (and i played on VH and Legendary) in the end was i just grinding armies on armies with hordes of zombies while i finished the campaign victory objective early on