Dushane running around with them tight Levi jeans in the last episode with his heart problems going on was comedy gold 😂😂😂 From drug kingpin to desperate drug dealer...MAD
Deshane gangster to coward , jackie rude girl to a saint, kano get all the bricks finally just to go to heaven, feel like as it was last season, they were trying bring in next audience, “ by saying dont sell dugs” , end up dead in a bath or dead by a bullet
I really enjoyed the way this scene was filmed and I was glad to see a video about it but feel like they talk a lot about how important the estate is but dont show much lol. Also Kano deserves an award, but the guy who plays Stef does too, he was incredible!
Top Boy is Top Tier entertainment..I hope that the ambiguity as to who did it at the end could mean an offshoot series? I really hope so loved it start to end 💜💜💜
I think the pressure of getting it right came across well as the pressure Deshane was under in character. Excellent series guys. Up there with Line of duty and Blue Lights ❤
Feel like the creators were inspired by the French film ‘Athena’ which is all about a riot on a block. It is filmed beautifully and it’s so gripping! I just don’t think all the riots and protesting felt necessary in this show, it felt forced and unrealistic
They could have drawn more inspiration from Athena for the riot scenes. I feel that at times the crowds were not as dense, angry and agitated as they should have been.
I agreed with Ashley when he said in an interview he didn't want that part in. I know he even said something like that happened, but it seemed forced, and like grasping at straws a bit.
It really didn't. Everything played out naturally and also highlighted the true state of Summerhouse, which is disarray. Only thing is this state isn't usually so physically seen, but for the purpose of the overall story, it made perfect sense.
Why is Ashley the only one doing press for this season? I haven’t seen anyone other cast members doing interviews. Everything about this season feels weird.
Felt like the whole season was stuck on 2x speed.. A lot of loose ends that we're never tied up.. Should've been more than 6 episodes in my opinion and the end was very anticlimactic.. Season was bit of a miss and felt very rushed with low budget.
Amazing series, the final season was a let down compared to all the previous ones in my opinion, Summer House will always be the best version of Top Boy to me.
Gritty series about working class communities and urban underworld. Majority ethnic minority cast yet the executive producer is @1:00 Sir Charles Steel, Esq. You can tell he knows a lot about the world and people portrayed in the show. Furthermore, look at the entire crew smh.
Honestly these last 3 episodes seemed so rushed. This series deserved a more thought out ending. It felt like they needed to round it off quick because some of the actors had other things to do. The last scene between driss and sully were more emotional than the last scene between sully and duchane. But of course that's just my opinion
Love the show and loved the characters. This is the only show I know of that ended well with each season being good quality. Most show runners milk it and keep going even long after they get stale like walking dead or end poorly like game of thrones. I can binge watch the entire series of top boy each year and enjoy it over and over again.
In what way exactly was season 3 any good mate? They built up so much in season 2 only to ignore it all in season 3 lmao. This season was hella bad, I love Top Boy, but the way the writers just wrote off so many stuff that were developing in season 2 is crazy. What happened to Dushanes heart problem & panic attacks? What happened to the undercover cops that had a case going against Dushane? Like there's so much that just went missing, instead let's put a riot together that lasts 2 episodes and have it take up so much time, so stupid.
@@TurkiskYoghurt exactly, season 5 was awful, everyone was acting out of character, especially Dushane, and the writing was horrendous. This season has been a disgrace to the Top Boy name.
“Wanted to bring it back to Summerhouse” just say your budget got cut. Great season. Great ending, but it was way too short. So many forgotten plots and rushed conclusions.
The stephan plot was integral. However, it felt rushed. But still turned out to be a brilliant season. People are gonna say it was bad season, but thats only because all the predecessors were out of this world.
Don't know why everyone is hating, it's the same type of ending as snowfall, if you get too greedy it ain't gonna end up well. This it how it should have ended. There is no top boy. It's only temporary.
I've been watching Top Boy since Summer House and I never thought the whole production crew was white that's like This Is England being produced by none other than black people I'm in complete confusion right now 😅
The two undercover cops should of been still there and got dushane and sully and sent em down for life sentences...that way you keep yourself open for either a spin of or a new season if you ever did wanna revisit the show...or even one dies one goes jail. Theres still stories there to be told that would definitely keep the audience interested....
If you keep a series running for to long there’s nothing you can do with it, 3 seasons is enough to get the plot across. Will just become boring if it starts going on to season 4 5 6 7 will loose its excitement and will become to predictable they was right what they did
@@ap7football933 you have your seasons mixed up. There are only 5 seasons, 2 from the original and 3 from Netflix. Season 4 ain’t as bad as this season but it’s still a major let down from how good season 3 was.
Bit of a let down as a final season. Rushed into 6 episodes a little. Plot points just bought up as a reason to kill someone off. Just felt it deserved a 10 episode season to get a bit more depth behind certain elements. Some great individual scenes, but as a season, just felt it was a bit off compared to 1&2.
What was the point of Showing Curtis's sister plan her Revenge and nothing happens... Dushane getting palpations and nothing happens.. The Police chasing Dushane.. Nothing happens So many plots went unanswered 🤦🏽♂️
so refreshing in the current year to see a basically allwhite TV crew not careening about in spirals of self hate and screaming for inclusivity and reparations for sins they didn't commit.
Clueless. What are you annoyed by, that dushane lost everything overnight ( that happens all the time in that world) Dushane lost everything.!!! He said several times in early episodes he never wanted to keep doing this and wanted to retire welll when all his money was stolen he was done! Thats why he panicked and acted out of character m, with no money, no mum and now second to sully he was basically depressed. And sully was sully a broken man and soul. People were wanting a massive war or explosive ending but in reality what happened was more realistic
@@docholiday-lm4vf this is the problem with people these days. They think everything has to be on a Fast and Furious level of ridiculous. Bet these lot expected Dominic Toretto to come down on a spaceship and save Dushane.
@@anish87no, we expect to be entertained and we expect it to at the very least, be on par with the previous seasons and what we got was an absolute joke. It was pitiful to say the least and even Kano and Asher would 100% agree.
The story didn’t need a riot. 1, what was the reason behind needing all the distractions from the story. 2, if it was to express a political revolt against certain issues within a community why make it the hood version of les miserables. 3, why was it so forced, I mean the first protest was ok, but that’s that n it’s fine, people power 💪🏼 but then the bailiff stuff, like seriously, that isn’t helping anybody including the characters in the story. The full blown riot then being born through a police car speeding to the scene that the community are creating knocking a girl playing football in the road over 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️ I mean come on, hardly ‘brutality’ that would evoke a riot, just so non believable n forced. Addressing immigration and the housing crisis or police brutality doesn’t need to be on the nose like that, subtlety and a real message. I think the issues were that it takes time to create emotional storylines and characters and in all honesty I had no empathy or care for any of them. Though the Irish section, that was building into something really interesting, paired with the fact they recruited one of the best most interesting young actors in the game atm in Barry keoghan. But it all just quickly vanished, I get it was a way of showing the brutality of Dushane and sully n what they have become, killing people in cold blood effortlessly and also that even with the division in the ranks they can still come together to defeat a common enemy buttttt come on, that was the antagonist, not the ott riot going on. Those Irish characters could of really got under the skin and into the mechanics of criminality and the point the writers were clearly trying to achieve. WE DID NOT NEED THE POINTLESS RIOT. All seemed diluted and rushed, the main aim of the finale being to simply watch summerhouse burn through the acts of its own people for 2 hours while in the background these complex and interesting characters we have watched for 12 years suddenly become contrived tropes of any other ‘live by the sword die by the sword’ garbage. So poor, and unlike some people justifying it by stating what do ppl want like some huge explosive war at the end.. no! Quite the opposite. We want to cling onto our characters until the very end and see the human in them, monsters or food (that was a good line 👌🏼). It just could of been so much better, there was such a relatable, deep, interesting story within these characters endings and it just feels like they were ignored throughout to make way for simple yet convenient plot turns and some form of poorly constructed political message that created next to zero actual insight into how the real people going through those real situations feel. 😢😞
When you see the production team, you begin to grasp as to why there are no positive melanated men in this. Where were the Teachers and Mentors that contrasted the systemic stereotypes?. Very intentional.
@@PJ-po7fu Incorrect. Charles collier, Tina, Alasdair, Charles, Laura smith. Are all white. Please speak from a place of knowledge as to refrain from ignorance.
I get what you're saying but both Kano and Ashley have said many times in interviews that they want to tell these stories. Obviously there are better role models out there but you can't say this stuff doesn't happen because it does and the reason why Top Boy is great is because they humanise these characters instead of demonising them (or at least that's my interpretation anyway, I don't see them as one dimensional, but maybe they could have given Dushane more grace).
all i know is Kano acted his ASS off this season so i hope he at least gets nominated for an award💯
Every season he’s amazing in
@@danielmcdonald9917 absolutely but he really brought it especially in *that* scene in the last episode
I agree with that...dude is amazing
every season.
Dushane running around with them tight Levi jeans in the last episode with his heart problems going on was comedy gold 😂😂😂
From drug kingpin to desperate drug dealer...MAD
I was laughing cant lie man was running around the block with 25 bricks 😂
@NonStopRikkers Mans whole life depended on them bags fam 😂
😂😂😂 was peak still very peak
cos lizzie and ithe were the real top boys this season took 15 mil of dooshanes money yikes
@uh3331 I don't like the fact they got away with it though
The ending was exactly as it should have been. Heartbreaking. So sad saying goodbye to these incredible characters
@@JayM-gg2vp🤣🤣 fr there defo from Brighton
why u so racist basktetball man
@@JayM-gg2vp
@@JayM-gg2vpLOL, Yo bro chill 😂😂😂
2:11 "We try not to take advantage... show our gratitude by being as quiet as possible as much as we can"
**shows riot scenes right after** 😂
Kano for an award 💯 give the man some credit way over due as an artist and actor 🙏
It feels like Netflix slashed the budget this season
4 Seasons of Building Up To See Dushane Hiding in abandoned Yards and Get Shot Climing a Large Gate.
And to see Sully learn absolutely nothing and get shot anyway
Exactly the reality of living that life, it's not glamorous.
would’ve been a way better season if they just had more episodes
@@Colston3 Could've been done better regardless.
Deshane gangster to coward , jackie rude girl to a saint, kano get all the bricks finally just to go to heaven, feel like as it was last season, they were trying bring in next audience, “ by saying dont sell dugs” , end up dead in a bath or dead by a bullet
Kano's silence whilst everyone is doing the promo run is telling
He did the landrover stuff insetad. The rolled out some b list for promo
I really enjoyed the way this scene was filmed and I was glad to see a video about it but feel like they talk a lot about how important the estate is but dont show much lol.
Also Kano deserves an award, but the guy who plays Stef does too, he was incredible!
Kano and Jasmine for BAFTA wins this year ASAP! 💥
Top Boy is Top Tier entertainment..I hope that the ambiguity as to who did it at the end could mean an offshoot series? I really hope so loved it start to end 💜💜💜
I think the pressure of getting it right came across well as the pressure Deshane was under in character. Excellent series guys. Up there with Line of duty and Blue Lights ❤
The ending was on point if you live by the gun you die by the gun
Outstanding work, congrats!
Fantastic show.
terrible season man what happended to the undercover detectives that had a case on dushane LOL
I also thought we would see Curtis sister get revenge? Or at least try.
Lol yeah the “nitties”, what a shame the way dushane as the main guy died. Felt like he ended like a random rival gang member.
Bro I forget everything between downtime of TV series. I read this and now I'm disappointed too 😂😂😅
@@Amazinghacks101I'd like to believe he's somrhow not dead and maybe in future another season could be started or a spin off
@@Tan-ns2hrMan would've bled to death before then 😂
Feel like the creators were inspired by the French film ‘Athena’ which is all about a riot on a block. It is filmed beautifully and it’s so gripping! I just don’t think all the riots and protesting felt necessary in this show, it felt forced and unrealistic
Nuh bruv! Top Boy was created way before Athena. Athena is like 1 year old. Top Boy has been around for over 10 years.
@@Shariffsson theyre talking about this season
Athena looks cool but it's very confusing... was it the cops, was it extremists??? What are you supposed to make of it?
@@CentralsFinest yeah this season
Season one and season two will forever be the best when I say season one I mean summer house
They could have drawn more inspiration from Athena for the riot scenes. I feel that at times the crowds were not as dense, angry and agitated as they should have been.
How is this video better than the season
One protest was alright, but two ?! 😂😂😂
I agreed with Ashley when he said in an interview he didn't want that part in. I know he even said something like that happened, but it seemed forced, and like grasping at straws a bit.
It really didn't. Everything played out naturally and also highlighted the true state of Summerhouse, which is disarray. Only thing is this state isn't usually so physically seen, but for the purpose of the overall story, it made perfect sense.
Why is Ashley the only one doing press for this season? I haven’t seen anyone other cast members doing interviews. Everything about this season feels weird.
How has this only got 305 views 💀
Only been up 2 hours lad give it a chance
@@dan.808 still the trailer got mad views in two hours I’d expect atleast 10k
@@SuperSharxsThat’s the trailer g, don’t think vids like this are as popular
Felt like the whole season was stuck on 2x speed.. A lot of loose ends that we're never tied up.. Should've been more than 6 episodes in my opinion and the end was very anticlimactic.. Season was bit of a miss and felt very rushed with low budget.
Amazing series, the final season was a let down compared to all the previous ones in my opinion, Summer House will always be the best version of Top Boy to me.
they should include the behind the scenes of the last scene 🤣
LOVE ITTT 🎉🎉
Gritty series about working class communities and urban underworld. Majority ethnic minority cast yet the executive producer is @1:00 Sir Charles Steel, Esq. You can tell he knows a lot about the world and people portrayed in the show. Furthermore, look at the entire crew smh.
Exactly not a single black crew member
u cu nts better not be serious with this@@Fofaithsa
I liked it
Honestly these last 3 episodes seemed so rushed. This series deserved a more thought out ending. It felt like they needed to round it off quick because some of the actors had other things to do. The last scene between driss and sully were more emotional than the last scene between sully and duchane. But of course that's just my opinion
This video is longer than the fricken season
3:54 xD love this entire video
i jus tliked the "that was interesting from our point of view" xD
Love the show and loved the characters. This is the only show I know of that ended well with each season being good quality. Most show runners milk it and keep going even long after they get stale like walking dead or end poorly like game of thrones. I can binge watch the entire series of top boy each year and enjoy it over and over again.
watch the sopranos or breaking bad
@@Cjmink47 exactly, they are much better shows and they actually get better as the seasons go on instead of worse like Top Boy.
In what way exactly was season 3 any good mate? They built up so much in season 2 only to ignore it all in season 3 lmao. This season was hella bad, I love Top Boy, but the way the writers just wrote off so many stuff that were developing in season 2 is crazy. What happened to Dushanes heart problem & panic attacks? What happened to the undercover cops that had a case going against Dushane? Like there's so much that just went missing, instead let's put a riot together that lasts 2 episodes and have it take up so much time, so stupid.
@@TurkiskYoghurt exactly, season 5 was awful, everyone was acting out of character, especially Dushane, and the writing was horrendous. This season has been a disgrace to the Top Boy name.
Was selected by my casting agent for a small part in this series. But I didn't attend look exciting on the filming set wish I attended.
Opportunity missed
“Wanted to bring it back to Summerhouse” just say your budget got cut.
Great season. Great ending, but it was way too short. So many forgotten plots and rushed conclusions.
Wow!😂😂😂
What did you think of the final season of Top Boy?
jaq defo did it
It was garbage unlike the first 2 this season seemed rushed and plot holes everywhere... it was a shame tbh
@@BLACKTOOTHBILL should've been longer
@@niftysweata4384 defo longer 8-10eps ideally
The stephan plot was integral. However, it felt rushed. But still turned out to be a brilliant season. People are gonna say it was bad season, but thats only because all the predecessors were out of this world.
Give over was a well good season
Don't know why everyone is hating, it's the same type of ending as snowfall, if you get too greedy it ain't gonna end up well. This it how it should have ended. There is no top boy. It's only temporary.
I've been watching Top Boy since Summer House and I never thought the whole production crew was white that's like This Is England being produced by none other than black people I'm in complete confusion right now 😅
Don’t even know how Drake allowed this to even go through 😂
Wow!😂😂😂
Wdym drake wasn’t a director or writer he wasn’t involved creatively at all
@@acmacm2801 Bro allow the dumb talk, he paid for everything. He has control regardless
@@MaestroPlaymaker Netflix pays for it drake is just a producer on the show
People thinking Drake has anything to do with Top Boy success 🤣
The two undercover cops should of been still there and got dushane and sully and sent em down for life sentences...that way you keep yourself open for either a spin of or a new season if you ever did wanna revisit the show...or even one dies one goes jail. Theres still stories there to be told that would definitely keep the audience interested....
If you keep a series running for to long there’s nothing you can do with it, 3 seasons is enough to get the plot across. Will just become boring if it starts going on to season 4 5 6 7 will loose its excitement and will become to predictable they was right what they did
@@danielmcdonald9917 *5 seasons
@@danielmcdonald9917not really power did a good job until ghost died
agreed. what was the point of revealing that bit if nothing came from it.
@@ajjohnson3416but this isn’t power, power was unrealistic ghost was long overdue
Absolutely fu**ed the entire show up with this rushed season. The producers and writers failed miserably
Honestly, it’s been downhill since season 4
@@Al-Xelrioseason 4 wasn’t terrible just had 1 or 2 dumb characters in it, season 5 was baddd tho
@@ap7football933 you have your seasons mixed up. There are only 5 seasons, 2 from the original and 3 from Netflix. Season 4 ain’t as bad as this season but it’s still a major let down from how good season 3 was.
@@Al-Xelrio yeah my bad you know what i meant tho lol. this season would’ve easily have been saved if they just added more episodes.
Spin off please. Could be like power. Jaq could for sure be a spin off showTop girl 🧡
Cant find this new season on Netflix
It def wasnt there as I checked other wk BUT it is now. I started rewatching it last night x
so the only black people in this show were the actors?
Are you surprised at that?
So what
Lol and so f--king what?
I thought exactly the same thing but no surprised at all… white= the brain black= puppets/clown
And most of the directors too
Such a disappointing finale to such a good series
if the show kept on running, it would of lost its value. Beautiful Ending!
the series started off rich, and ended off rich. That’s that.
@@prxject1ended off rushed and poorly written imo
Last 3 min got me like😮😮😮😮😮😮who tf killes sully
Fulling dropped the ball with this one
Bit of a let down as a final season. Rushed into 6 episodes a little. Plot points just bought up as a reason to kill someone off. Just felt it deserved a 10 episode season to get a bit more depth behind certain elements. Some great individual scenes, but as a season, just felt it was a bit off compared to 1&2.
If it is the end of a era why not finish it off. The shows tag line no lose ends but the show ended with loads of lose ends😂
Not much diversity behind the camera when your actually telling a story about black characters in a fictional black and brown area of London. Sad
i still don't believe that dushane is dead 😪😔
This ain't the end 😢
Wasted half the season doing this scene and the std steff scene bs
What happened too his voice Ashley????
What was the point of Showing Curtis's sister plan her Revenge and nothing happens... Dushane getting palpations and nothing happens.. The Police chasing Dushane.. Nothing happens
So many plots went unanswered 🤦🏽♂️
this last season was shart
Man's voice changed
Do a spin off
i wish there was more black brits working behind the scenes
The final season was so disappointing it’s sad quite frankly,too many loose ends
so refreshing in the current year to see a basically allwhite TV crew not careening about in spirals of self hate and screaming for inclusivity and reparations for sins they didn't commit.
Dead season honestly
Innit R kid
Clueless. What are you annoyed by, that dushane lost everything overnight ( that happens all the time in that world)
Dushane lost everything.!!! He said several times in early episodes he never wanted to keep doing this and wanted to retire welll when all his money was stolen he was done!
Thats why he panicked and acted out of character m, with no money, no mum and now second to sully he was basically depressed.
And sully was sully a broken man and soul.
People were wanting a massive war or explosive ending but in reality what happened was more realistic
@@docholiday-lm4vf this is the problem with people these days. They think everything has to be on a Fast and Furious level of ridiculous. Bet these lot expected Dominic Toretto to come down on a spaceship and save Dushane.
@@anish87no, we expect to be entertained and we expect it to at the very least, be on par with the previous seasons and what we got was an absolute joke. It was pitiful to say the least and even Kano and Asher would 100% agree.
@@grahamkelly8662😭😭 they told u that right?😂😂😂😂😂😂
Topboy needs to be more diverse behind the camera
You can tell they rushed the last season.
Disappointing tbh
Was not worth the wait, feel sorry for the actors who I bet had no say in this
Both Kano(aka Sully) & Ashley (aka Dushanne) are both credited as the Executive Producers on this season. Along with Drake
This was terrible, you guys need to redo this over again.
Why didn’t you like it? What did you want to happen that didn’t?
This show just ignored about 7 things from the previous seasons lol
Name all 7
@@Johan590 aaron, Curtis family, pebbles, tish, tia, dushanes charachter, the nitty feds
rushed, poor and predictable ending. jaq shouldve died, didnt show kieron's death, these things wouldve made for a better finale
@@Floydtimbdujbk_Omg your so rightttttt. Spot on
Was a very lazy ending and could’ve been so much better,love to see a series made on my fav little Jaq,what an actress🏴
the riot scenes were so unnecessary
The story didn’t need a riot. 1, what was the reason behind needing all the distractions from the story. 2, if it was to express a political revolt against certain issues within a community why make it the hood version of les miserables. 3, why was it so forced, I mean the first protest was ok, but that’s that n it’s fine, people power 💪🏼 but then the bailiff stuff, like seriously, that isn’t helping anybody including the characters in the story. The full blown riot then being born through a police car speeding to the scene that the community are creating knocking a girl playing football in the road over 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️ I mean come on, hardly ‘brutality’ that would evoke a riot, just so non believable n forced. Addressing immigration and the housing crisis or police brutality doesn’t need to be on the nose like that, subtlety and a real message. I think the issues were that it takes time to create emotional storylines and characters and in all honesty I had no empathy or care for any of them. Though the Irish section, that was building into something really interesting, paired with the fact they recruited one of the best most interesting young actors in the game atm in Barry keoghan. But it all just quickly vanished, I get it was a way of showing the brutality of Dushane and sully n what they have become, killing people in cold blood effortlessly and also that even with the division in the ranks they can still come together to defeat a common enemy buttttt come on, that was the antagonist, not the ott riot going on. Those Irish characters could of really got under the skin and into the mechanics of criminality and the point the writers were clearly trying to achieve. WE DID NOT NEED THE POINTLESS RIOT. All seemed diluted and rushed, the main aim of the finale being to simply watch summerhouse burn through the acts of its own people for 2 hours while in the background these complex and interesting characters we have watched for 12 years suddenly become contrived tropes of any other ‘live by the sword die by the sword’ garbage. So poor, and unlike some people justifying it by stating what do ppl want like some huge explosive war at the end.. no! Quite the opposite. We want to cling onto our characters until the very end and see the human in them, monsters or food (that was a good line 👌🏼). It just could of been so much better, there was such a relatable, deep, interesting story within these characters endings and it just feels like they were ignored throughout to make way for simple yet convenient plot turns and some form of poorly constructed political message that created next to zero actual insight into how the real people going through those real situations feel. 😢😞
When you see the production team, you begin to grasp as to why there are no positive melanated men in this. Where were the Teachers and Mentors that contrasted the systemic stereotypes?. Very intentional.
The production team do as they're told by the Executive Producers.....who are all black BTW
@@PJ-po7fu Incorrect. Charles collier, Tina, Alasdair, Charles, Laura smith. Are all white. Please speak from a place of knowledge as to refrain from ignorance.
I get what you're saying but both Kano and Ashley have said many times in interviews that they want to tell these stories. Obviously there are better role models out there but you can't say this stuff doesn't happen because it does and the reason why Top Boy is great is because they humanise these characters instead of demonising them (or at least that's my interpretation anyway, I don't see them as one dimensional, but maybe they could have given Dushane more grace).
It was quite crap be fair
this season was rushed the finale season should be good its the LAST season but instead they rushed it
Worst season out of all of them.
pointless roit crap ending
The last season was so sub par it ruined the overall legacy of the show.
Crap ending series 3. Major disappointment. Just delete it and start again please 🙏
Worst season by far should of just ended it with last season Jamie dying
The whole riot storyline was so stupid and fake. They ruined the finale so badly.
For the final season it should've been more than 6 episodes. That being said i really enjoyed it. Ps Jaq killed Sully.
Easy really as rioting has become the norm for those communities.
Need to make this season a dream from Jamie so u lot can re do thisshit and do the show justice . This was boring with pointless scenes
They rushed top boy ,I really think drake shouldn’t have gotten involved cause
Was two episodes short and it showed . No depth
Most unrealistic show. Not even 10% realistic.