I won’t lie, I am and am not surprised with how close the S1 got to Big Boy near the end. The giant 6-4-4-6 was always going to be slow to start, with unbalanced weight and giant wheels. But it’s maximum power output is at high speed, and even at medium speeds it’s higher that the Challenger or the 4-8-4
But In real life the s1 would be kind of under powerd because it would have problems with wheel slipe because the trailing trucks and leading truck would take all of the weight and all the driving wheels would slip because there would not be a lot of weight on them which makes them kind of under powerd
The top speed of the UP big boy Is 80 but it’s recommended to only go 60 and the Challenger Top Speed 70 recommended 50 and for the S 1 100 to 140 and for 844 100 to 120 Top speed
Freight engines vs passenger engines. The PRR S1 with its 4 driving axles stands no chance against Big Boy and Challenger with heavy freight trains. Also, i think the trains used in this race are short for what a muscle engine is built for imo
Love your videos! Would really like to see more of these! The Southern Pacific "cab forward" would be a very entertaining contestant against the Big boy.
Our freight trains are extremely important but people don’t care about them. Most people wouldn’t be alive right now if it wasn’t for the railroads. Great video as well!
My bet was on Big Boy, not just because it’s the Strongest but it’s 1 of my all time favorite trains, but the 844 is awesome too when it has never ever been retired and also the PRR S1 is very Good-looking and I quite like the Challenger too, But Big Boy is the Best out of all 4 of them🚂🇺🇸
The reason why the PRR S1 and the UP 844 have a higher top speed is because they are on a rigid frame compared to the articulated, detached frames of the UP Big Boy and Challenger. Big Boy and Challenger can handle curves better due to their detached boilers from the front trunks, but their top speed is significantly nerfed in the process
More so due to the fact the 844 has larger diameter drivers at 80” vs the smaller 68” drivers of the big boy, slower start due to less leverage but higher top end due to the larger diameter
This is one of my favorite American train races of all time, especially with ford. Super strong, and really fast American trains. Because America has the best trains
This is interesting and entertaining. This is why Big Boy and Challenger are built for strength and acceleration due to their small driving wheel. S1 and FEF are built for speed because of their large driving wheels.
I have a question in regards to this game itself. I frequent this game, however I constantly deal with the game crashing due to memory issues, I play on the 64bit mode. Do you have any recommendations for me, or should I look into a new computer?
Fun fact, the UP 844 is the longest continuous running steam locomotive in the world. It has been in continuous service since it was built in 1944. It was never retired.
This should be done again with more train cars and up hill. And figured big boy would win as its name was supposed to be the Wasatch titan because it easily conquered the hardest rail line in the world with the steepest grades going through a windy moutain pass
I call world strength championships!!! Steam vs diesel vs electric; USA vs UK vs Germany vs Japan!!! Well done Mr. Oliver!!! Side challenge: is an E2 tank engine stronger than a Pacific A4 as from the movie “Hero of the Rails”?
Give the line a hill to climb and the s1 Will drop speed quickly. S1 and up844 is build for a mix of passenger and cargo and have low start force but high top speed.
The Union Pacific Big Boy was actually meant to haul VERY long trains up steep grades. And when I say that I mean it could go up a 2% grade with a 5 mile long train and still pull it.
Hey Oliver just wanted to say the UP 884 is an FEF3 class 4-8-4 class northeren(thats what we call them in america) just so u know mate i love the vids
You should try the same with the winner here, an then the one with English ones then. You should have the 2-10-10-2 , which is bigger than these are by far.
Fun Fact about the Union Pacific Big Boy it's the strongest steam engine ever built and was specifically built for handling the steep inclines of the rocky mountains passes and was pretty much one of the main reasons the Allies won during WW2 the big boy hauled over 100 million tons of cargo from coast to coast during the course of America's involvement in the war
Well I mean to be fair. I'm pretty sure as of current day, correct me if I'm wrong, Big Boy is the most powerful locomotive still on the rails to date.
Let’s get on with the strength test locomotives. They’re very strong powerful locomotives in America. Both challenger and Big Boy are freight service trains that is the reason why they can pull a lot of cars while the PRR S1 and 844 are passenger and mixed freight
Should have chosen a PRR Q2 if you wanted strength. While the S1 is fast, its not technically a strong train. Passenger trains are fast yes, but if you want raw power should've chosen the PRR Q2. Also the Virginian 2-10-10-2 would give big boy a run for its money.
Fun Fact: It's speculated the PRR S1, the real life one, broke Mallard's record
Seriously 😳 that's soo cool
@@bluecomet1982 Did you miss where I said speculated?
Yeah there have been claims that the S1 touched 140 mph, but they have never been confirmed
@@wolfzillaproductions4563The fastest it was ever rumored to go was 156MPH.
@@wolfzillaproductions4563 same with the T1
I won’t lie, I am and am not surprised with how close the S1 got to Big Boy near the end. The giant 6-4-4-6 was always going to be slow to start, with unbalanced weight and giant wheels. But it’s maximum power output is at high speed, and even at medium speeds it’s higher that the Challenger or the 4-8-4
But In real life the s1 would be kind of under powerd because it would have problems with wheel slipe because the trailing trucks and leading truck would take all of the weight and all the driving wheels would slip because there would not be a lot of weight on them which makes them kind of under powerd
@@Mainrod-productions take that as a flaw
The reason the s1 and the up 844 caught up is because they are passenger engines/ mixed traffic engines
A BIG mixed traffic engine
The s1 was not built for strength im surprised the 844 is losing to the s1 😮
I agree, 844 and 4014 usually lead trains together and both work well as one
@@stellambetu5139 it's because it has marginally better tractive effort and a fuckton more speed
And from what I know, pass. steam locos are build for a little bit of strength and a LOT for speed. And once they build up that speed, they keep it.
The Big Boy is articulated, so it did not come close to derailing. The front curves without the rest of it.
The Union Pacific big boy would easily be able to pull 100-200+ pieces of rolling stock with EASE.
No up to 1,000
It's my favorite train in the world
@@rayyans4662No
The top speed of the UP big boy Is 80 but it’s recommended to only go 60 and the Challenger Top Speed 70 recommended 50 and for the S 1 100 to 140 and for 844 100 to 120 Top speed
Not trying to be annoying, but the challengers regularly operated at 70 mph on passenger trains
@@crocowithaglocko5876hes talking aboute the freight operation
Freight engines vs passenger engines. The PRR S1 with its 4 driving axles stands no chance against Big Boy and Challenger with heavy freight trains.
Also, i think the trains used in this race are short for what a muscle engine is built for imo
Love your videos! Would really like to see more of these! The Southern Pacific "cab forward" would be a very entertaining contestant against the Big boy.
Our freight trains are extremely important but people don’t care about them. Most people wouldn’t be alive right now if it wasn’t for the railroads. Great video as well!
My bet was on Big Boy, not just because it’s the Strongest but it’s 1 of my all time favorite trains, but the 844 is awesome too when it has never ever been retired and also the PRR S1 is very Good-looking and I quite like the Challenger too, But Big Boy is the Best out of all 4 of them🚂🇺🇸
I agree big boy is my favorite train
Can already tell this is ganna be a damned good race!! Also keep up the goodwork!
Also can the strength challenge be done uphill? Now that’s a real challenge.
America's loading gauge allowed us to pull off some bs that European railroads couldn't conceive.
I’ve watched your content since 4th grade 🤩
I’ve stopped watching when I was in 6th grade, but found you out of the blue.
Keep it going!
one of your best vids (my opinion) please do more strength chellenges
7:45 yep that is basically what you'll see in America if you come here Oliver
I think these four engines should do a speed challenge
I’m curious if the 844 would/can beat the PRRS1 at 200%
I know what you mean but it is unfair because the 844 has more power
This was a lot more enjoyable than I tough. I really prefer the look of the Challanger over the Bigboy, but wow, what a difference! Now add a BR53 in?
The reason why the PRR S1 and the UP 844 have a higher top speed is because they are on a rigid frame compared to the articulated, detached frames of the UP Big Boy and Challenger. Big Boy and Challenger can handle curves better due to their detached boilers from the front trunks, but their top speed is significantly nerfed in the process
More so due to the fact the 844 has larger diameter drivers at 80” vs the smaller 68” drivers of the big boy, slower start due to less leverage but higher top end due to the larger diameter
This was quite enjyoable to watch. You should do this with some American diesels next, maybe the ES44AC, SD70ACe, DD40AX, and AC6000CW.
Do you mean DDA40X
And the SD40-2
@@mulletmayhem3812The SD40-2 is smaller than all the Engines listed on the comment, so the it doesn’t count
I love Union Pacific Big Boy on Strength Challenge because Big Boy is the strongest and quicker starter 🥰😉
Big boy was supposed to be the strongest cause in real life. He pushed an entire freight train
That was a great race.
This is one of my favorite American train races of all time, especially with ford. Super strong, and really fast American trains. Because America has the best trains
This is interesting and entertaining. This is why Big Boy and Challenger are built for strength and acceleration due to their small driving wheel. S1 and FEF are built for speed because of their large driving wheels.
9:23 XD hope you enjoyed your cookie
i would have liked to have seen an alleghany in the lineup but this is Cool!
Laser Jet I love your route building tutorials
Brilliant race
Are you going to be reviewing that Eurostar in the background?
i love your channel!!!
You’re my favourite train’s TH-camr😊
I have a question in regards to this game itself. I frequent this game, however I constantly deal with the game crashing due to memory issues, I play on the 64bit mode. Do you have any recommendations for me, or should I look into a new computer?
Fun fact, the UP 844 is the longest continuous running steam locomotive in the world. It has been in continuous service since it was built in 1944. It was never retired.
So that means steam engines didn't have a reason to be taken out of service
9:23 that was so random but funny for no reason 😭💀
Lovley video mate
Hey mr Oliver did you plan to do this video Just because i told you do it or it is that you like the idea yes or no?😅 i Just want to know:D
Whooo PRR!
Hell yeah🦅 It's a old train but it's strongest steam engine
This should be done again with more train cars and up hill. And figured big boy would win as its name was supposed to be the Wasatch titan because it easily conquered the hardest rail line in the world with the steepest grades going through a windy moutain pass
Might I ask what was the grade of the track I tried looking it up but I'm not sure the actual grade of track
This is going to be amazing
The S1 is the best kind of steam loco cause it’s super big super strong and super fast but it’s tide with big boy for my favorite
I call world strength championships!!! Steam vs diesel vs electric; USA vs UK vs Germany vs Japan!!! Well done Mr. Oliver!!!
Side challenge: is an E2 tank engine stronger than a Pacific A4 as from the movie “Hero of the Rails”?
This is something I'd support.
Pease do something like this again I loved it.
Moral to this race:
Sometimes sucess is not needed to surpass but determination leads to sucess
Can you have a Grate 9f race?
The fact the S1 was designed to haul deluxe passenger trains instead of freight is kinda funny
What if you did a race where you are actually driving a train and racing against another player?
Interesting
I think he did. He drove a Challenger vs a programmed Big Boy years ago.
@@harrisonfarnsworth4739Same Thing with Driving Golden Eagle VS A lot of A4’s
Lazer jet you drink cola? 1:52
Bro is so close to 100k he’s at 99.9k
Here's a fun fact for you ,the big boy can pull 5 miles of Freight at 80mph, an can pull that same Freight at 3% grade at 30mph or 40mph.
Nice model railroad bro
keep it up my g
Let’s be honest America does like to be a show off with it’s locomotives Rockets, and such
Give the line a hill to climb and the s1 Will drop speed quickly. S1 and up844 is build for a mix of passenger and cargo and have low start force but high top speed.
"Cargo" trains are known as "Freight" trains in America. "PRR" is the (now defunct) "Pennsylvania Rail Road"
Big Boy is HAULING, HES JUST HAULING XD (Completely S Rank tier)
Also fun fact. The S1 is also called the Torpedo.
The Union Pacific Big Boy was actually meant to haul VERY long trains up steep grades. And when I say that I mean it could go up a 2% grade with a 5 mile long train and still pull it.
Hey Oliver just wanted to say the UP 884 is an FEF3 class 4-8-4 class northeren(thats what we call them in america) just so u know mate i love the vids
Your grammar is unfortunately bad
Lazer when was the last time you raced the super class 47?
Please include Indian train ❤❤❤❤❤❤
where can i download this map at
Big boy still won
Race starts at 3:10
You should try the same with the winner here, an then the one with English ones then. You should have the 2-10-10-2 , which is bigger than these are by far.
Oliver whydontyou do a race with the union Pacific challenger vs the union Pacific 844 race
GOO BIG BOYY
Fun Fact about the Union Pacific Big Boy it's the strongest steam engine ever built and was specifically built for handling the steep inclines of the rocky mountains passes and was pretty much one of the main reasons the Allies won during WW2 the big boy hauled over 100 million tons of cargo from coast to coast during the course of America's involvement in the war
It’s not the strongest steam engine ever built
@LTK_JADE who tf cares? The engines that out-pulled the big boy is scrapped/retired
@@infaredxkingz8786 You care actually. And I was correcting him so shut the hell up🤣
You can feel the American energy through the screen
You should try tug of war but if it don't work maybe try tow with your irl model trains
Well I mean to be fair. I'm pretty sure as of current day, correct me if I'm wrong, Big Boy is the most powerful locomotive still on the rails to date.
Prediction:
First: S1
Second: 844
Third: Big Boy
Fourth: Challenger
Fun fact about the big boy, on flat ground he can pull the equivalent of 16 statues of liberty at once and get some speed to
9:24 it's a biscute Lazer, a biscute
The S1 was a passenger locomotive, A much better choice would have been the Q2
They are all beautiful locomotives but Big Boy will always have my heart
Bro , please Race All world train and Please please please please please Add VANDA BHARAT EXPRESS Train from India 🇮🇳🇮🇳
Nice
YES AND THE BIOG BOY WAS BUILT FOR LARG CARGO RUNS FOR ALOT EVEN TANK TRAINS SO IT WAS BUILT FOR THIS
The s1 is surprising me 😮
Can you extend the race track already please🙏🙏🙏
Let’s get on with the strength test locomotives. They’re very strong powerful locomotives in America. Both challenger and Big Boy are freight service trains that is the reason why they can pull a lot of cars while the PRR S1 and 844 are passenger and mixed freight
did you know the s1 does have a nickname, it was nicknamed the big engine due to its size
You should have included the Pennsylvania class Q2 which had a whopping almost 8000 HP
Yeah
Yeah 😊
Big boy was literally built for this, that's why it's called "big boy".
Ngl but the UP 844 and PRR S1 look beautiful
My favourite train up big boy😊
Should have chosen a PRR Q2 if you wanted strength. While the S1 is fast, its not technically a strong train. Passenger trains are fast yes, but if you want raw power should've chosen the PRR Q2. Also the Virginian 2-10-10-2 would give big boy a run for its money.
Not even the S1 with its power and speed could beat the Big Boy's incredible strength
Laser jet I am a fan
Now do a Niagara versus Super Hudson versus C&O 614 versus C&O 1601 strength challenge
Big boy❤😂😂😂
Play Trainz Android for 1 reason: try to pull a train with over 10,000 cars using only big boys.
Big boys very strong but I think that if race track was longer prrs one would surely win my favourite engine is the big boy and prrs one
the S1 did pull freight near the end of its life
Idk if the Allegheny is in the game, but it may have been a better choice over 854
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Sonewin
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844 was for short passenger trains so its not good with long frieght trains
I'm pretty sure you've been misinformed