Idk I like Darkseid a lot but I see him more as a Justice League villain. My favorites(other than Lex) are Metallo, Brainiac, Mongul, Bizarro and Doomsday. Zack Snyder too
I definitely agree with the Metallo argument for one specific reason. Imagine the storyline for a sequel specific film where Superman thinks himself invincible and someone who can resolve any conflict only to be blindsided by something able to actually hurt and possibly kill him. The whole film would basically be Clark coming back to terms with his mortality. All thanks to Metallo
When you guys mention about bizzaro I remember a TH-camr called bandit incorperated he did videos on what upcoming movies could it he did one for Age of Ultron and BVS haven’t seen them in over 10 years so can’t remember exactly but I’m sure bizzaro was used in that plus he makes more logical sense then doomsday
Plus with doomsday in BVS if I had to change it I’ll have the trinity find a way to send doomsday to space so then he could come back in later films as a more comic accurate version plus keeping superman alive in BVS I know it’s not the best but if doomsday had to be in it that’s what I do
Kind of sad that one of the oldest superheroes in existence has so many great villains that never get used. Ah well, at least it's not as forgotten as Wonder Woman's.
Probably cause so many adaptations only ever used Lex Luthor & Toy Man. I think that’s why so so many casuals know who Toyman is despite being a C-List villain in the comics. Even Zod only made a single appearance in part 2 and never showed up again until Smallville. I don’t know if it was a rights issue or not
@@danielwesley5051parallax, what's stupid name for cosmic horror creature. DC have many stupid names. Brainiac? Seriously? World's collector cool name
Personally my favorite Superman villain group is The Elite. They had 1 comic but it was a great examination of Superman’s moral philosophy. They did a PEAK animated movie about it.
Same. The Elite are such a great representation of the cynical 21st nihilistic worldview a lot of younger people today share as they believe Superman's worldview and old timey methods are outdated. Superman vs The Elite animated movie is also probably my personal favourite Superman movie and I adore how they adapt the comic
Atomic Skull, while not my favorite villain, has always been interesting to me, because think about it, the guy gives off massive amounts of dangerous radiation, and it’s harmless to Superman, but it’s deadly against bystanders, and it’s interesting seeing Superman try to save as many people as he can while fighting him.
He's such a good villain. I like the version where he's a punk bully who happened into his powers. I feel it's a good counter to Superman's more mature way of dealing with his abilities. The look doesn't hurt either. Love me a flaming skull face. I'm pretty sure his blasts hurt Superman too, though I could be wrong.
Parasite, Toyman, and Mongul are also pretty good. I hope James Gunn will expand Superman's rogues gallery in the dcu! Instead of just using Lex luthor.
I think Parasite is a pretty sick villain. Great design and power set for countering Superman, often requiring Superman to outsmart him rather than relying on brute force.
THANK YOU Also Brainiac is great, but he shouldn’t be Kryptonian. He’s from Colu, and he’s a mirror to Jor-El. Bizarro I like him because he’s embodying Superman’s heroism where he has good intentions but because of how he is twosted into being the reverse he can only do evil so he’s trapped inside his own body.
General Zod has so much potential. I'd imagine him showing up early in Superman's story and he would tell him about Krypton's culture and Kal-Els parents, but he would twist the truth so he would look like the good guy, so that Superman would become his loyal pawn, just for Superman to somehow find out that he's not as benevolent as he seems and then Zod would drop the facade and essentially go full Omni-Man on Clark. And everytime they face off Clark would have conflicted feelings about fighting him, since he's on one hand extremely evil, but on the other hand, he's the only connection he has to Krypton (at least before Supergirl arrvies to earth)
i have this idea of Zod rising up against the leaders of krypton to try and make kryptonians more dominant (maybe have him mirror Lex where he has an intense hatred/distrust of non-kryptonians) and wants to perform experiments to make kryptonians unlock their potential powers (like in my version of events he knows someone who found the potential for powers in their DNA somehow and he wants to gain that power) also i want Zod to wear the red armour the russian Zod wore. Cause it looks rad as fuck and deserves to be worn by the real zod and not some random russian guy who took his name cause a ghost spoke to him.
May I ask why the general consensus seems to be General Zod is a bad villain? I haven’t read that many Superman comics so I only know him from the movies, and he seemed fine enough there, he’s not an S tier villain by any means though.
@@DmanDmythDlegend He is bad, because he is a total reverse of Superman. Bizarro is better for that story and character purpose, which is why he is far more popular.
@@billyboleson2830 They couldn't for legal reasons, but he did appear in the tie in comics. To be honest I really don't care because I just don't care about the character.
Toyman is my favorite Superman villain, and I have my reasons. He is like the Jigsaw of villains with traps, inventions, a doll/puppet avatar, and a trauma-based insanity. While he may not be as smart as Lex or as Deductive as Batman, I believe he is the best inventor in all of DC Comics. For example, he managed to make… - A bouncy ball that never lost energy, constantly bouncing off of everything until it can move fast enough to even hurt Superman - A giant rubber duck with sharp teeth that can again fight on par with Superman and consistently hurt Superman, even driving him into the ground - Toy planes that shoot bullets at a fast enough rate to both hit and hurt Superman - A ray gun that can transfer someone to literally anywhere in the universe … and Toyman did all of this without using Kryptonite. He seemingly has no bounds to what his “toys” can do. He has a lot of raw power and an interesting character that’s kind of akin to Professor Pyg.
Aside from Lex Luthor and Brainiac, my favourite Superman villain by far is Mister Mxyzptlk. He had by far some of the best issues of the Superman Adventures tie-in comics.
I've always really liked Parasite. There's a wonderful simplicity to his character, his visual design is terrific and he's one of Superman's greatest physical threats without needing Kryptonite
Thank you guys for being upbeat and fun with these topics. I’ve been watching a lot of superhero related videos since yesterday. Jesus, some people sound defeated or just downright bored. Had me leaving a lot of videos cause their tone just says “I had this idea, but I don’t care about it” This however, was fun to watch
Manchester black. Both his appearances in "what so funny about truth, justice and the American way?" And "ending battle" were awesome. Also parasite. I wish they used him more often.
Ultra humanite is the most underrated Superman villain. He was Superman’s original arch nemesis before Luther. He was Superman’s total opposite an evil genius paralyzed from the waist down and had a lot of recurring appearances before he died and was replaced by Luther. But they brought him back later where he moved his brain into an albino gorilla so he no longer has the weakness he had before.
I never thought of him being the villain in a World's Finest movie. If they use the more sympathetic version of him, where he's an adult who genuinely wants to be a child and protect children from the horrors of adulthood, we could have a great source for conflict between the heroes. I could see Superman defending him from Batman's more brutal attempts to take him down (since Bats doesn't know him or how to deal with him) while trying to de-escalate the situation. Bats could be going too hard on him since he reales to the idea of the kids never seeing their parents again while Supes could find out that the parents are abusing their kids and using investigating Toyman as a cover for investigating the parents.
I love all of Superman’s Villains for different reasons, there’s just so much Potential in them that the can work, even the Bad Ones like Nuclear Man can be Fixed.
Even if Nuclear Man was brought in as a campy fun character for comedic side stories he has a ton of potential. Being a failed Lex experiment, not having fully mental capacity, having solar/nuclear powers that could mutate over time. I'd love to see him on a Suicide Squad or even join a different Rogues Gallery.
I've always argued that Superman has the most underrated rogues gallery in all of comics. Spider-Mans are well known but let's be honest, majority are B/C teir. You can even argue the same for Batman but I have his rogues over Spider-Mans.
My favorites: Brainiac, Zod, Bizarro, Hank Henshaw/Cyborg Superman. Another one I really loved and seems to be forgotten about is Conduit (Kenny Braverman). As far as I can remember, I think he was only used in the comics once or twice but the storyline of him finding out Superman's identity and leaving the cryptic "I Know" messages for Clark and then the telling of his origin where he was a childhood friend that was jealous of Clark was excellent. Would love to see some version of that in live action. Check out the "The Death Of Clark Kent" storyline from 1995, it's really good.
@@barq6994he's typically just a badass. Like Ghost Rider but DC and evil. I think the most badass he's been was when he was doing cage matches in that JLU episode.
If they ever make a live-action, big screen version of *LiveWire* they should update her to be a TH-cam personality/commentator like *Grace Randolph.* It would make perfect sense considering that *Grace Randolph* really hates *Superman* in real life. Having *LiveWire* updated and based off *Grace Randolph* would be a perfect allegory.
Mongul for sure, the stories with WarWorld and “For the Man Who Has Everything” is very good (my introductions to him were the Justice League animated shows & Young Justice) and they could do so much more with him. I believe there’s a morality debate between them if I’m not mistaken and a sort of rivalry that needs be touched on more.
Here are some other rogues from the man of steel's adventures. -Ultra-Humanite: Superman's first villain, he was originally a frail human scientist who would later transplant his brain into other bodies until he got to the albino gorilla body we all know. -Microwave man: learned about this guy from casually comics, old man asking alien friends for super powers to prove said aliens friends exist. -Volcana: Pryokinetic woman who was created for the 90s Superman cartoon and does have a comic book appearance. -Galactic Golem: A weapon Lex made from science-fiction space matter and hyperstellar energy, it was powerful enough to Superman on the ropes when battling him. -Ignition: A cyborg conjured into existence by the Joker who had the powers of Mr.Mxyzptlk for a time. -Bruno Mannheim: The most known leader of Intergang and a devout worshiper of the religion of crime and servant of Darkeid.
my fav sups villain gotta be parasite, he's such a threat, really powerful and dangerous if not handled correctly (but from the talked about in this, i love livewire)
@@CalvinNoire in the DC Super Hero Girls 2019 show (which im a big fan btw) she's an internet troller/bully since the show is set in high school, which is a pretty interesting take on her character as well
Like how Batman's rogues mirror him I think that If one were to actually try then even Superman's rogues could work. Toyman: Naivety vs. Childishness Metallo: Found Humanity vs. Lost Humanity Atomic Skull: Uncontrollable Destructive Power vs. Controlled Destructive Power Parasite: Power to Give vs. Power to Take Silver Banshee: Blessing vs. Curse
My favorite is toyman. He’s got a lot of untapped potential. He could make mech suits and atonomus robots like Ironman suits for him and others to wear so they could actually fight Superman themselves or just make more powerful robots the only thing holding him back is his childish mind that makes him want to make everything toy like. Heck, he accidentally created a time machine in the justice league show
MAWS versions of Myx, Parasite, and Brainiac are honestly S tier for me. I love how different Myx is yet is still very much Myx, he's still a little shit. Parasite was never my favorite, even in the DCAU, but MAWS instantly made him one of my favorite villains ever. Brainiac... Jesus, I don't think I've ever seen an adaptation of Brainiac be so deplorable and easy to hate. He is that evil in MAWS, if you know you know
You left out Zod, the perfect foil for Kal-El. He wants to bring back his people by conquering the Earth. And serves as its emperor cause he believes that he’s the only capable of ruling it with care.
What’s great about Superman being busted in stats for his rogues gallery is that they’ll naturally rely more on Hax. Such as with Mr. Mxyzptlk. They have to be wacky or esoteric to counter Superman.
Superman possibly has the most overlooked and underrated rogues gallery in the history of comics. Lex Luthor; Zod; Brainiac; Bizarro; Pixy; Doomsday; Darkseid; Metallo (my favourite); Parasite; Cyborg Superman; etc
Bizarro is probably my favorite. As a kid I played some super man game and I can’t remember what it was exactly so my memory is foggy but you could play as Bizarro and I thought it was fun blowing shit up
I have to say too by the way, I like the super chill vibe your channel has, it's like listening to just your two friends talking about stuff and it just works
Livewire was a character created for Superman the animated series that like Harley Quinn and Mercy Graves become so popular that they brought her in to comic book continuity so she hasn't been in any major stories
With Livewire, her being able to basically teleport through the electrical grid would make her really useful as a secondary villain who can easily steal stuff, cause distractions, etc to further the main villain's plot. With Mxy, I think it would be neat if during a Batman vs Superman plot we see something like Batman saying he could beat Superman but then Supes stops and proposes a bet: If Batman (or Bruce Wayne) can trick Superman (or Clark) into speaking or writing the word "Kltpzyxm" then Superman would admit that Batman beat him and leave Gotham or something like that. If Batman asks he can play it off as an old Kryptonian game. Basically, have it where Superman more or less outsources some of his "defeating Mxyzptlk" responsibilities onto Batman and over the course of the movie we see Supes/Clark almost fall for Batman trying to trick him. Then at the end, we see Mxyzptlk appear in Gotham (maybe do the Emperor Joker storyline) and just when we see Superman seemingly defeated, Mxy (or the Joker) gets tricked into saying Mxy's name backwards by Batman (or maybe Alfred, Robin, Batgirl, etc). This saves the day and Superman gratefully thanks them for helping beat Mxy. I think this could really work because when you get down to it, Mxyzptlk is as powerful over Superman as Superman is over regular humans. But just as Superman can "beat" Mxy by outsmarting him, so can a totally unpowered person. So, having Supes basically bring Batman into his little ongoing battle against Mxy means that Batman has just as much of a chance of beating Mxy as Superman does.
How do we still not have at the least a made for tv halloween movie special, Superman vs Silver Banshee. She has an iconic look that hasn't really changed. Her halloween special comics are really scary and fun. We need a Silver Banshee movie where we can see her scary ghost powers challenge Superman.
Superman and Lois I thought had a great Bizarreo. I loved he white cracked skin, glowing blue eyes, backwards S and ripped cape. That was definitely Bizarreo.
McDowell's scream before he was caught trapped in lava was terrifying. Metallo also had my favorite themes. Those strings playing in the background of his scenes are chilling.
Superman: The Animated Series was a gift. So many villains wouldn't be known of at all without that show. Parasite may not be my favorite bank-robbing villain, but he's still a cool concept and Lobo probably could have been Deadpool before Deadpool claimed that spot if he was managed a little better...I struggle to think of HOW he could have been better managed and half-suspect superheroes just weren't "In" enough at the time for Lobo to soar, but that doesn't make him, Parasite, Livewire or Metallo any less cool and they're arguably more versatile than Doomsday and Brainiac (hard to imagine anyone besides Superman being able to fight Doomsday while Brainiac feels like he/it can only do big-scale stories).
My favorite underrated Superman villains are Parasite and Metallo. I love Metallo’s design and Parasite has really cool powers. Also, Mxy’s episode in TAS is my favorite and I rewatch it a lot.
I love what they've done with Brainiac in My Adventures with Superman animated series season 2. He was Krypton's A.I. He thinks his role is to preserve the empire. He has that personal touch because he manipulates Super Girl because he saved her as a baby and raised her as his daughter.
Also I Remember, a Series of Super-Man, Where He Didn't Had Any Main Arch Nemesis Enemies, or Villains. Just Basic Regular Criminals. Ether Gang or Army. Or One Episode, with Gozilla Dinosaur Like Type Monster, Found from in Ice. And Super-Man Defeated It By Making Zoo Place For It. Another Episode... Where He Took Down Some East Asia Ships. Another one... Where He Took Down Some Base Enemies, and was Driving Explosive Truck, and Redurrect It to Fall and Blow somewhere else. Another Episode... (From those I Can Remember)... Where some Masked Guys Threw a Bomb at a Locomotive. And Left the Train with OUT Locomotive, and Super-Man Had to DO the Dirty Job. Move the Train to the Destination, and STOP It there. And HE Took OFF Screen The Car of Criminals. Maybe and some Other Episodes. But These I Shared, are Most Remembrable to me of these Series. Also Like... Popeye Like Universe Series. And There He Had NO Villain Enemies of His own, OR Weakness to Kryptonite.
I love Bizzaro honestly, just a reverse Superman and really odd character riding that line of Frankenstein's monster and a kid trying to figure the world out.
I honestly I don't think Lex Luthor gets shoved down like Batman writers or DC in general does with Joker to where other heroes on Superman's rogue feel like they are getting slept on thanks to the Arch Enemy getting the spotlight. I wish Batman writers could take note of that.
6:13 I like the Supergirl origin for live wire where you know she was some radio jockey podcast type deal and while being saved by Supergirl Supergirl is hit with lightning or something electric while holding on to Leslie so the electric current pass through Supergirl and went right into Leslie so her powers kind of come from Supergirl in that iteration
Basically Lex Luthor has become the joker of the Metropolis/Superman villain gallery rogue (Popularity aleast, like when they immediately think Joker as Batman main villain while forgetting others Batman villain like Bane, Penguin, The Riddler, Killer Croc, Two Face/Harvey Dent, Poison Ivy and many others Batman villains, is that people only think of Lex Luthor forgetting Doomsday, Brainiac, Bizarro Superman [I don't know if Bizarro is consider a villain or a anti hero], Metallo, General Zod and many others [Darkseid is debatable if he is a Superman villain or a Justice League villain])
I actually think that Luthor was never Superman's Joker to begin with. He has always felt more like Penguin in how he operates than Joker. For me, that role is taken now by Darkseid, since their very first fight. He attacks Superman on a far greater level than Luthor ever could, not just psychologically, but also in a power level, and as a threat to everything Superman protects on top of it. In this, Darkseid is far better in the Joker nemesis role with Superman than Joker is with Batman now, to the point that their relationship is unique.
Bizarro has been adapted in many Superman shows: Superboy (1988-1992) he was basically Silver Age era Bizarro in this show. L&C The New Adventures of Superman (1993-1997) (although in that episode he never changed visually into the imperfect clone) Smallville (2001-20117) Superman & Lois (2021-) in that show their Bizarro eventually was turned into Doomsday
i always felt a little bit of disappointment when metallo regains his consciousness and becomes evil (as though fighting superman did you any good the past few fights). even if the amnesia wasnt permanent, i had hoped he'd realize there is glory or something when it came to helping people at least. I really liked the panels you showed where metallo was completely alone, and without anywhere to call home. It makes me really want to help him, though i dont know where its from. I will start reading red hood and the outlaws though
She might not be my fav Superman villain, but I think the character, Cythonna, is severely underrated. She’s the Kryptonian Goddess of Ice and Darkness, and her powers are basically a more powerful version of Elsa’s from Frozen. She’s also physically stronger than Superman, being that she swatted him away like a fly just by merely backhanding him. Sadly, She’s only appeared in one DC storyline and that’s “The Last God of Krypton”
Favourite Superman villain: Brainiac. He's like an alien Ultron and I love him. Plus, as Supergirl once said: "Lex Luthor represents the worst about humanity. Brainiac is the worst about aliens." It's like the perfect mirror to Superman's alien side. Also, to a lesser extent, Parasite, because I love the body horror involved and his ability to copy powers. And I also really like Metallo because cool Kryptonite-powered Terminator.
If Mr. Mxyztplk/Mxyzptlk (the spelling changes) is ever properly in live action instead of the low budget TV shows, they *have* to do him Who Framed Roger Rabbit style. The realistic old man in spandex always bugged me. The point of him was that he's a cartoon in a realistic world which enhances his outlandishness and antics.
If you want a good live action Bizarro, then you've got the show Superman and Lois. He's from another universe in said show, but he makes an excellent opponent/foil/character in relation to Superman
Brainiac, Ultra-Humanite, General Zod, Mongul and Hank Henshaw make the best big bads. Honorary mention to Darkseid (who encompasses most of the DCU as an overarching villain)
He’s not really in his rogues gallery but Superboy Prime is amazing and my favorite personally. Hard to translate into live action with everything that has to lead up to it, but he’s cool af
Y’all haven’t even scratched the surface😭erradicator, cyborg Superman, silver banshee, Manchester black, imperiex. Those imo r the real underrated villains
Silver Banshee got cursed by not appearing in S:TAS. She was probably the same level as Parasite and Metallo before (from my limited knowledge), but she wasn't in the adaptation that defined the character for so many fans. Therefore, she's become largely forgotten. I haven't read enough Supes comics to have really come across her myself, but I do like her a lot in MAWS (which I understand is a very different take on the character).
@@davidbjacobs3598 From what I've read of her, she's an actual banshee who was murdered and has a scream that can kill men. Since Superman is weak to magic is effects him too. She'd work really well in a creepy one off episode.
@@davidbjacobs3598 I don't know the issues numbers (and haven't gotten to her part in my current Superman read because I got distracted with a Wonder Woman binge. everything I've read about her is third person), but from what I've read she seems to only have her introduction in the John Byrne’s run ( Action Comics #595 I think) and a newer origin in New 52. That's why I think she'd do well in a one off episode. She doesn't seem to have many stories to back up her cool concept. A really good episode could solidify her in the minds of fans and help her get the Mr.Freeze treatment.
My favorite Superman villain has always been General Zod. I like the idea of other kryptonians surviving and being villains. There's all kinds of different stars it would be awesome to see other star radiation powers. Maybe I'm overthinking.
Hey I think another rogue gallery that is very underrated is Thor’s rogue gallery, I mean it nvm gets brought up in any conversations (at least in my circles maybe I’m in the wrong circles) but Hela, Loki, Surtur, Ymir, Karnilla, Ego, Destroyer, Desak, and Gorr are all very good to great and even all time villains that play huge roles in marvel’s development. Is there a chance you guys could make a video talking about Thor’s rogue gallery? Idk I kinda want to give his villains more credit than they get
I think manchester black is a really underated villian of superman. Very distinct in comparison to other villians. Could also work well as a suicide squad member. He was so dope in superman vs the elite.
I really hope that this new dcu uses brainiac for a superman movie or a JL movie either way hope they make him threatening and memorable 😎🔥👍🏻 he is my favorite superman villain
Let us know who YOUR favourite Superman villain is! 🤔👇
Idk I like Darkseid a lot but I see him more as a Justice League villain.
My favorites(other than Lex) are Metallo, Brainiac, Mongul, Bizarro and Doomsday.
Zack Snyder too
Lobo or bizarro I can’t decide
Lobo is so underrated - we’d love to see him in live action someday too🔥
I definitely agree with the Metallo argument for one specific reason. Imagine the storyline for a sequel specific film where Superman thinks himself invincible and someone who can resolve any conflict only to be blindsided by something able to actually hurt and possibly kill him. The whole film would basically be Clark coming back to terms with his mortality. All thanks to Metallo
Brainiac. His Injustice 2 story is really cool.
Superman unironically has one of the most underrated rogue’s galleries in comics and no I’m not joking
He has SO many good villains to choose from🔥
When you guys mention about bizzaro I remember a TH-camr called bandit incorperated he did videos on what upcoming movies could it he did one for Age of Ultron and BVS haven’t seen them in over 10 years so can’t remember exactly but I’m sure bizzaro was used in that plus he makes more logical sense then doomsday
Plus with doomsday in BVS if I had to change it I’ll have the trinity find a way to send doomsday to space so then he could come back in later films as a more comic accurate version plus keeping superman alive in BVS I know it’s not the best but if doomsday had to be in it that’s what I do
stop lying to yourself drider his rogues are trash
Bizzaro myxplz luthor doomsday zod toyman cyborgsuperman
Kind of sad that one of the oldest superheroes in existence has so many great villains that never get used. Ah well, at least it's not as forgotten as Wonder Woman's.
Probably cause so many adaptations only ever used Lex Luthor & Toy Man. I think that’s why so so many casuals know who Toyman is despite being a C-List villain in the comics. Even Zod only made a single appearance in part 2 and never showed up again until Smallville. I don’t know if it was a rights issue or not
@@Linklex7 Wait when has Toyman appeared?
@@jackreynolds3465 He had a huge moment in JLU when he "killed" Superman
justice for Blue Snowman
True lol I can only name like 4 Wonder Woman Villains.
Lobo and Mongul are probably the most underrated
For real, both great villains. Especially the main man, he's one of my favorite villains in general.
Who was it that drove Mr willpower, Hal Jordan, over the edge? Frickin Mongul
… and also Parallax but who cares.
We need a Warworld movie with Mongul
@@danielwesley5051parallax, what's stupid name for cosmic horror creature. DC have many stupid names. Brainiac? Seriously? World's collector cool name
I don't think Lobo is really a villain.
Personally my favorite Superman villain group is The Elite. They had 1 comic but it was a great examination of Superman’s moral philosophy. They did a PEAK animated movie about it.
Same. The Elite are such a great representation of the cynical 21st nihilistic worldview a lot of younger people today share as they believe Superman's worldview and old timey methods are outdated. Superman vs The Elite animated movie is also probably my personal favourite Superman movie and I adore how they adapt the comic
That movie is peak
The Elites weren’t really villains tho
Anti heroes who kill
That movie is a must watch. So satisfying.
Atomic Skull, while not my favorite villain, has always been interesting to me, because think about it, the guy gives off massive amounts of dangerous radiation, and it’s harmless to Superman, but it’s deadly against bystanders, and it’s interesting seeing Superman try to save as many people as he can while fighting him.
@theghostofjeffgoldblumdail9613 I always liked him in JLU especially his final comment asking for a head start before the JL catch them
He's such a good villain. I like the version where he's a punk bully who happened into his powers. I feel it's a good counter to Superman's more mature way of dealing with his abilities. The look doesn't hurt either. Love me a flaming skull face.
I'm pretty sure his blasts hurt Superman too, though I could be wrong.
Parasite, Toyman, and Mongul are also pretty good. I hope James Gunn will expand Superman's rogues gallery in the dcu! Instead of just using Lex luthor.
Parasite could beat anyone
And Manchester Black
Can't wait for the new original characters Lod and Zex. They're both Kryptonian.
I think Parasite is a pretty sick villain. Great design and power set for countering Superman, often requiring Superman to outsmart him rather than relying on brute force.
I love that he's Rogue without as many drawbacks.
I’ve always loved Metallo and The Atomic Skull.
That's the guy in Superman vs the Elite/ What's so funny about truth justice and the American way right
THANK YOU
Also Brainiac is great, but he shouldn’t be Kryptonian. He’s from Colu, and he’s a mirror to Jor-El.
Bizarro I like him because he’s embodying Superman’s heroism where he has good intentions but because of how he is twosted into being the reverse he can only do evil so he’s trapped inside his own body.
I prefer him being kryptonian A.I.
@@Theblackout292me too
No. Brainiac having his origins on Krypton makes him a more personal villain for Supes.
I like Brainiac as Kryptonian. And I don’t care who’s got a problem with it
General Zod has so much potential. I'd imagine him showing up early in Superman's story and he would tell him about Krypton's culture and Kal-Els parents, but he would twist the truth so he would look like the good guy, so that Superman would become his loyal pawn, just for Superman to somehow find out that he's not as benevolent as he seems and then Zod would drop the facade and essentially go full Omni-Man on Clark. And everytime they face off Clark would have conflicted feelings about fighting him, since he's on one hand extremely evil, but on the other hand, he's the only connection he has to Krypton (at least before Supergirl arrvies to earth)
i have this idea of Zod rising up against the leaders of krypton to try and make kryptonians more dominant (maybe have him mirror Lex where he has an intense hatred/distrust of non-kryptonians) and wants to perform experiments to make kryptonians unlock their potential powers (like in my version of events he knows someone who found the potential for powers in their DNA somehow and he wants to gain that power)
also i want Zod to wear the red armour the russian Zod wore. Cause it looks rad as fuck and deserves to be worn by the real zod and not some random russian guy who took his name cause a ghost spoke to him.
My favourite is Mr. Mxyzptlk because the sort of fifth dimension fairy tale magic is so at odds with the normal hero universe
It’s such a fun way to introduce chaotic supernatural elements into Superman’s life
Absolutely agreed. Although one villain that has been used very often that I have never been a fan of his General Zod.
May I ask why the general consensus seems to be General Zod is a bad villain? I haven’t read that many Superman comics so I only know him from the movies, and he seemed fine enough there, he’s not an S tier villain by any means though.
@@DmanDmythDlegend He is bad, because he is a total reverse of Superman.
Bizarro is better for that story and character purpose, which is why he is far more popular.
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That version of Brainiac was for only one version of the character. Hardly the standard of what he should be.
Still wild to me how Zod never appeared in the animated series
@@billyboleson2830 They couldn't for legal reasons, but he did appear in the tie in comics. To be honest I really don't care because I just don't care about the character.
Honestly you guys are big part of me getting back into comics, thank you
Toyman is my favorite Superman villain, and I have my reasons. He is like the Jigsaw of villains with traps, inventions, a doll/puppet avatar, and a trauma-based insanity. While he may not be as smart as Lex or as Deductive as Batman, I believe he is the best inventor in all of DC Comics. For example, he managed to make…
- A bouncy ball that never lost energy, constantly bouncing off of everything until it can move fast enough to even hurt Superman
- A giant rubber duck with sharp teeth that can again fight on par with Superman and consistently hurt Superman, even driving him into the ground
- Toy planes that shoot bullets at a fast enough rate to both hit and hurt Superman
- A ray gun that can transfer someone to literally anywhere in the universe
… and Toyman did all of this without using Kryptonite. He seemingly has no bounds to what his “toys” can do. He has a lot of raw power and an interesting character that’s kind of akin to Professor Pyg.
Aside from Lex Luthor and Brainiac, my favourite Superman villain by far is Mister Mxyzptlk. He had by far some of the best issues of the Superman Adventures tie-in comics.
He’s goated
I've always really liked Parasite.
There's a wonderful simplicity to his character, his visual design is terrific and he's one of Superman's greatest physical threats without needing Kryptonite
Thank you guys for being upbeat and fun with these topics.
I’ve been watching a lot of superhero related videos since yesterday. Jesus, some people sound defeated or just downright bored. Had me leaving a lot of videos cause their tone just says “I had this idea, but I don’t care about it”
This however, was fun to watch
Manchester black. Both his appearances in "what so funny about truth, justice and the American way?" And "ending battle" were awesome.
Also parasite. I wish they used him more often.
Hoping we see both in the DCU
I love bizarro as a villain and a antihero in the outlaws
I'd say I have TWO favorite *Superman* villains: *Parasite* and *Brainiac.* They both are fascinating to me.
Ultra humanite is the most underrated Superman villain. He was Superman’s original arch nemesis before Luther. He was Superman’s total opposite an evil genius paralyzed from the waist down and had a lot of recurring appearances before he died and was replaced by Luther. But they brought him back later where he moved his brain into an albino gorilla so he no longer has the weakness he had before.
Hear me out. World's Finest Movie with Superman and Batman fighting Toy Man. He's a villain that can truly match both our their tones and themes.
No need to hear you out we need brother . WE NEED IT!
I never thought of him being the villain in a World's Finest movie. If they use the more sympathetic version of him, where he's an adult who genuinely wants to be a child and protect children from the horrors of adulthood, we could have a great source for conflict between the heroes. I could see Superman defending him from Batman's more brutal attempts to take him down (since Bats doesn't know him or how to deal with him) while trying to de-escalate the situation. Bats could be going too hard on him since he reales to the idea of the kids never seeing their parents again while Supes could find out that the parents are abusing their kids and using investigating Toyman as a cover for investigating the parents.
I love all of Superman’s Villains for different reasons, there’s just so much Potential in them that the can work, even the Bad Ones like Nuclear Man can be Fixed.
There's already a good version of Nuclear Man called Atomic Skull.
Even if Nuclear Man was brought in as a campy fun character for comedic side stories he has a ton of potential. Being a failed Lex experiment, not having fully mental capacity, having solar/nuclear powers that could mutate over time. I'd love to see him on a Suicide Squad or even join a different Rogues Gallery.
Bizarro, Artemis, and Red Hood have such great chemistry with eagh other.
I've always argued that Superman has the most underrated rogues gallery in all of comics. Spider-Mans are well known but let's be honest, majority are B/C teir. You can even argue the same for Batman but I have his rogues over Spider-Mans.
I will not take this Spidey villain slander!
I personally think Zod and Lobo are criminally underused. Lobo especially, he's great.
My favorites: Brainiac, Zod, Bizarro, Hank Henshaw/Cyborg Superman.
Another one I really loved and seems to be forgotten about is Conduit (Kenny Braverman). As far as I can remember, I think he was only used in the comics once or twice but the storyline of him finding out Superman's identity and leaving the cryptic "I Know" messages for Clark and then the telling of his origin where he was a childhood friend that was jealous of Clark was excellent. Would love to see some version of that in live action. Check out the "The Death Of Clark Kent" storyline from 1995, it's really good.
main reason conduit didn't show up again was cause he died at the end of his big storyline and he stayed that way for ages, but i agree.
Brainiac has always been my favorite. I love his whole mission and creation
I feel Atomic Skull has a lot of potential and nobody's done a storyline with him as the main villian but could.
He goes crazy hard in My Adventures with Superman season 2
@@comiclads He hasn't really done much. Needs some development.
@@barq6994he's typically just a badass. Like Ghost Rider but DC and evil. I think the most badass he's been was when he was doing cage matches in that JLU episode.
I feel like that's the real issue with overusing certain villains. It doesn't give guys like AS time to shine.
Metallo and parasite
9:02 Bizarro's like if an overgrown kid had Superman's powers and wanted to do good but didn't know how to go about it.
Superman, the animated series is criminally underrated. I'm glad you guys are giving it credit.
If they ever make a live-action, big screen version of *LiveWire* they should update her to be a TH-cam personality/commentator like *Grace Randolph.* It would make perfect sense considering that *Grace Randolph* really hates *Superman* in real life. Having *LiveWire* updated and based off *Grace Randolph* would be a perfect allegory.
Personally, my favorite Superman Villian has to be Bizzaro . I just love the way he was depicted in the animated series
Toyman, Parasite, Lobo, Silver Banshee. Also Brainiac was the villain of Lego Batman 3.
Mongul for sure, the stories with WarWorld and “For the Man Who Has Everything” is very good (my introductions to him were the Justice League animated shows & Young Justice) and they could do so much more with him. I believe there’s a morality debate between them if I’m not mistaken and a sort of rivalry that needs be touched on more.
you'd be pleased to know he's one of the big bads in the comic The Return of Superman
Here are some other rogues from the man of steel's adventures.
-Ultra-Humanite: Superman's first villain, he was originally a frail human scientist who would later transplant his brain into other bodies until he got to the albino gorilla body we all know.
-Microwave man: learned about this guy from casually comics, old man asking alien friends for super powers to prove said aliens friends exist.
-Volcana: Pryokinetic woman who was created for the 90s Superman cartoon and does have a comic book appearance.
-Galactic Golem: A weapon Lex made from science-fiction space matter and hyperstellar energy, it was powerful enough to Superman on the ropes when battling him.
-Ignition: A cyborg conjured into existence by the Joker who had the powers of Mr.Mxyzptlk for a time.
-Bruno Mannheim: The most known leader of Intergang and a devout worshiper of the religion of crime and servant of Darkeid.
Definitely lobo the czarnian for me. That's the most underrated Superman villain.
My best tho will forever be doomsday
This was a good list but I’m surprised you guys didn’t mention Superman villains like Darkseid, General Zod, Toyman, Mongul, Parasite or even Doomsday
my fav sups villain gotta be parasite, he's such a threat, really powerful and dangerous if not handled correctly (but from the talked about in this, i love livewire)
Livewire could easily be reworked today as a Joe Rogan style podcaster.
@@CalvinNoire in the DC Super Hero Girls 2019 show (which im a big fan btw) she's an internet troller/bully since the show is set in high school, which is a pretty interesting take on her character as well
Mongul is underrated too. He'd be great for a Supergirl Superman movies if they include Mongal and have a siblings vs cousins fight.
Finally someone giving superman some love
Great video🤙
Like how Batman's rogues mirror him I think that If one were to actually try then even Superman's rogues could work.
Toyman: Naivety vs. Childishness
Metallo: Found Humanity vs. Lost Humanity
Atomic Skull: Uncontrollable Destructive Power vs. Controlled Destructive Power
Parasite: Power to Give vs. Power to Take
Silver Banshee: Blessing vs. Curse
One villain I wish would get a bigger spotlight is the Eradicator
We so need a playlist for this, Batman & Superman are the only ones so far.
My favorite is toyman. He’s got a lot of untapped potential. He could make mech suits and atonomus robots like Ironman suits for him and others to wear so they could actually fight Superman themselves or just make more powerful robots the only thing holding him back is his childish mind that makes him want to make everything toy like. Heck, he accidentally created a time machine in the justice league show
MAWS versions of Myx, Parasite, and Brainiac are honestly S tier for me. I love how different Myx is yet is still very much Myx, he's still a little shit. Parasite was never my favorite, even in the DCAU, but MAWS instantly made him one of my favorite villains ever. Brainiac... Jesus, I don't think I've ever seen an adaptation of Brainiac be so deplorable and easy to hate. He is that evil in MAWS, if you know you know
Bizarro is hands down one of my favorite comic characters. Especially from the outlaws, smart bizarro will never not be cool to see
For me it's Lobo. He was awesome on tv's Krypton.
Superman unironically has one of the most underrated rogue’s
You left out Zod, the perfect foil for Kal-El. He wants to bring back his people by conquering the Earth. And serves as its emperor cause he believes that he’s the only capable of ruling it with care.
What’s great about Superman being busted in stats for his rogues gallery is that they’ll naturally rely more on Hax. Such as with Mr. Mxyzptlk. They have to be wacky or esoteric to counter Superman.
love the duo commentary, so refreshing
Who remembers Nuclearman?
I would love to see a live action Elite story with Superman!
Superman possibly has the most overlooked and underrated rogues gallery in the history of comics. Lex Luthor; Zod; Brainiac; Bizarro; Pixy; Doomsday; Darkseid; Metallo (my favourite); Parasite; Cyborg Superman; etc
Bizarro is probably my favorite. As a kid I played some super man game and I can’t remember what it was exactly so my memory is foggy but you could play as Bizarro and I thought it was fun blowing shit up
I have to say too by the way, I like the super chill vibe your channel has, it's like listening to just your two friends talking about stuff and it just works
Thanks man, that vibe was/is what we strive for🤝
@@comiclads well you're doing great dudes! I've recommended your channel to a bunch of my friends already, here's hoping you keep growing!
With the increasing use of AI in our daily lives, Brainiac would be the perfect villain in a modern Superman movie
Great video guys! Love to see recognition to Supermans phenomenal rogues gallery.
Thanks for watching🙏
I feel like mongul is also underatted
Livewire was a character created for Superman the animated series that like Harley Quinn and Mercy Graves become so popular that they brought her in to comic book continuity so she hasn't been in any major stories
With Livewire, her being able to basically teleport through the electrical grid would make her really useful as a secondary villain who can easily steal stuff, cause distractions, etc to further the main villain's plot.
With Mxy, I think it would be neat if during a Batman vs Superman plot we see something like Batman saying he could beat Superman but then Supes stops and proposes a bet: If Batman (or Bruce Wayne) can trick Superman (or Clark) into speaking or writing the word "Kltpzyxm" then Superman would admit that Batman beat him and leave Gotham or something like that. If Batman asks he can play it off as an old Kryptonian game.
Basically, have it where Superman more or less outsources some of his "defeating Mxyzptlk" responsibilities onto Batman and over the course of the movie we see Supes/Clark almost fall for Batman trying to trick him.
Then at the end, we see Mxyzptlk appear in Gotham (maybe do the Emperor Joker storyline) and just when we see Superman seemingly defeated, Mxy (or the Joker) gets tricked into saying Mxy's name backwards by Batman (or maybe Alfred, Robin, Batgirl, etc). This saves the day and Superman gratefully thanks them for helping beat Mxy.
I think this could really work because when you get down to it, Mxyzptlk is as powerful over Superman as Superman is over regular humans. But just as Superman can "beat" Mxy by outsmarting him, so can a totally unpowered person.
So, having Supes basically bring Batman into his little ongoing battle against Mxy means that Batman has just as much of a chance of beating Mxy as Superman does.
How do we still not have at the least a made for tv halloween movie special, Superman vs Silver Banshee. She has an iconic look that hasn't really changed. Her halloween special comics are really scary and fun. We need a Silver Banshee movie where we can see her scary ghost powers challenge Superman.
Brainiac is so cool, I didn’t know he was a superman villain, I only remember him from Lego Batman 3. Also that outlaws comic sounds really good
Superman and Lois I thought had a great Bizarreo. I loved he white cracked skin, glowing blue eyes, backwards S and ripped cape. That was definitely Bizarreo.
Superman villains you didn't mention:
Mongul
Terra Man
Parasite
Ultra Humanite
Prankster
Manchester Black
Lobo
Intergang
Solomon Grundy
I’ve never really been that interested in Superman but you guys make him so much more interesting
Malcolm McDowell as Metallo is one of the best voice castings for a comic book character.
Aren’t you in the comments on Blaze’s DC reaction videos a lot?
Excited for the Christopher Reeve’s Superman review?
McDowell's scream before he was caught trapped in lava was terrifying. Metallo also had my favorite themes. Those strings playing in the background of his scenes are chilling.
Superman: The Animated Series was a gift. So many villains wouldn't be known of at all without that show. Parasite may not be my favorite bank-robbing villain, but he's still a cool concept and Lobo probably could have been Deadpool before Deadpool claimed that spot if he was managed a little better...I struggle to think of HOW he could have been better managed and half-suspect superheroes just weren't "In" enough at the time for Lobo to soar, but that doesn't make him, Parasite, Livewire or Metallo any less cool and they're arguably more versatile than Doomsday and Brainiac (hard to imagine anyone besides Superman being able to fight Doomsday while Brainiac feels like he/it can only do big-scale stories).
I personally love Parasite, even more so after seeing how they did him in MAWS
My favorite underrated Superman villains are Parasite and Metallo. I love Metallo’s design and Parasite has really cool powers.
Also, Mxy’s episode in TAS is my favorite and I rewatch it a lot.
It’s SUCH a fun episode. Definitely one of the most re-watchable episodes of the series 🔥
@@comiclads heck yeah it is!
I love what they've done with Brainiac in My Adventures with Superman animated series season 2. He was Krypton's A.I. He thinks his role is to preserve the empire. He has that personal touch because he manipulates Super Girl because he saved her as a baby and raised her as his daughter.
Also I Remember, a Series of Super-Man,
Where He Didn't Had Any Main Arch Nemesis Enemies, or Villains.
Just Basic Regular Criminals. Ether Gang or Army.
Or One Episode, with Gozilla Dinosaur Like Type Monster,
Found from in Ice. And Super-Man Defeated It By Making Zoo Place For It.
Another Episode... Where He Took Down Some East Asia Ships.
Another one... Where He Took Down Some Base Enemies, and was
Driving Explosive Truck, and Redurrect It to Fall and Blow somewhere else.
Another Episode... (From those I Can Remember)...
Where some Masked Guys Threw a Bomb at a Locomotive.
And Left the Train with OUT Locomotive, and
Super-Man Had to DO the Dirty Job. Move the Train to the Destination, and STOP It there.
And HE Took OFF Screen The Car of Criminals.
Maybe and some Other Episodes.
But These I Shared, are Most Remembrable to me of these Series.
Also Like... Popeye Like Universe Series.
And There He Had NO Villain Enemies of His own, OR Weakness to Kryptonite.
I love Bizzaro honestly, just a reverse Superman and really odd character riding that line of Frankenstein's monster and a kid trying to figure the world out.
I honestly I don't think Lex Luthor gets shoved down like Batman writers or DC in general does with Joker to where other heroes on Superman's rogue feel like they are getting slept on thanks to the Arch Enemy getting the spotlight. I wish Batman writers could take note of that.
Love your guy’s vibes, its so wholesome! Thanks :)
6:13 I like the Supergirl origin for live wire where you know she was some radio jockey podcast type deal and while being saved by Supergirl Supergirl is hit with lightning or something electric while holding on to Leslie so the electric current pass through Supergirl and went right into Leslie so her powers kind of come from Supergirl in that iteration
Basically Lex Luthor has become the joker of the Metropolis/Superman villain gallery rogue (Popularity aleast, like when they immediately think Joker as Batman main villain while forgetting others Batman villain like Bane, Penguin, The Riddler, Killer Croc, Two Face/Harvey Dent, Poison Ivy and many others Batman villains, is that people only think of Lex Luthor forgetting Doomsday, Brainiac, Bizarro Superman [I don't know if Bizarro is consider a villain or a anti hero], Metallo, General Zod and many others [Darkseid is debatable if he is a Superman villain or a Justice League villain])
Lex Luther has always been that joker equivalent for Superman for decades. That’s not really new
I actually think that Luthor was never Superman's Joker to begin with. He has always felt more like Penguin in how he operates than Joker.
For me, that role is taken now by Darkseid, since their very first fight. He attacks Superman on a far greater level than Luthor ever could, not just psychologically, but also in a power level, and as a threat to everything Superman protects on top of it.
In this, Darkseid is far better in the Joker nemesis role with Superman than Joker is with Batman now, to the point that their relationship is unique.
Darkseid is more a justice league villain @@shauntempley9757
Bizarro has been adapted in many Superman shows:
Superboy (1988-1992) he was basically Silver Age era Bizarro in this show.
L&C The New Adventures of Superman (1993-1997) (although in that episode he never changed visually into the imperfect clone)
Smallville (2001-20117)
Superman & Lois (2021-) in that show their Bizarro eventually was turned into Doomsday
i always felt a little bit of disappointment when metallo regains his consciousness and becomes evil (as though fighting superman did you any good the past few fights). even if the amnesia wasnt permanent, i had hoped he'd realize there is glory or something when it came to helping people at least. I really liked the panels you showed where metallo was completely alone, and without anywhere to call home. It makes me really want to help him, though i dont know where its from.
I will start reading red hood and the outlaws though
She might not be my fav Superman villain, but I think the character, Cythonna, is severely underrated. She’s the Kryptonian Goddess of Ice and Darkness, and her powers are basically a more powerful version of Elsa’s from Frozen. She’s also physically stronger than Superman, being that she swatted him away like a fly just by merely backhanding him. Sadly, She’s only appeared in one DC storyline and that’s “The Last God of Krypton”
Favourite Superman villain: Brainiac. He's like an alien Ultron and I love him. Plus, as Supergirl once said: "Lex Luthor represents the worst about humanity. Brainiac is the worst about aliens." It's like the perfect mirror to Superman's alien side.
Also, to a lesser extent, Parasite, because I love the body horror involved and his ability to copy powers. And I also really like Metallo because cool Kryptonite-powered Terminator.
If Mr. Mxyztplk/Mxyzptlk (the spelling changes) is ever properly in live action instead of the low budget TV shows, they *have* to do him Who Framed Roger Rabbit style. The realistic old man in spandex always bugged me. The point of him was that he's a cartoon in a realistic world which enhances his outlandishness and antics.
If you want a good live action Bizarro, then you've got the show Superman and Lois. He's from another universe in said show, but he makes an excellent opponent/foil/character in relation to Superman
Brainiac, Ultra-Humanite, General Zod, Mongul and Hank Henshaw make the best big bads.
Honorary mention to Darkseid (who encompasses most of the DCU as an overarching villain)
I would like more Mongul with Warworld.
He’s not really in his rogues gallery but Superboy Prime is amazing and my favorite personally. Hard to translate into live action with everything that has to lead up to it, but he’s cool af
Y’all haven’t even scratched the surface😭erradicator, cyborg Superman, silver banshee, Manchester black, imperiex. Those imo r the real underrated villains
Silver Banshee got cursed by not appearing in S:TAS. She was probably the same level as Parasite and Metallo before (from my limited knowledge), but she wasn't in the adaptation that defined the character for so many fans. Therefore, she's become largely forgotten.
I haven't read enough Supes comics to have really come across her myself, but I do like her a lot in MAWS (which I understand is a very different take on the character).
@@davidbjacobs3598 From what I've read of her, she's an actual banshee who was murdered and has a scream that can kill men. Since Superman is weak to magic is effects him too. She'd work really well in a creepy one off episode.
@@NegaHumanX Whoa, that's awesome. I didn't realize she was a literal banshee. Do you or anyone have any comics recommendations for this character?
@@davidbjacobs3598 I don't know the issues numbers (and haven't gotten to her part in my current Superman read because I got distracted with a Wonder Woman binge. everything I've read about her is third person), but from what I've read she seems to only have her introduction in the John Byrne’s run ( Action Comics #595 I think) and a newer origin in New 52.
That's why I think she'd do well in a one off episode. She doesn't seem to have many stories to back up her cool concept. A really good episode could solidify her in the minds of fans and help her get the Mr.Freeze treatment.
Parasite is also a pretty good one I don’t know much but his powers can be used in interesting ways
My favorite Superman villain has always been General Zod. I like the idea of other kryptonians surviving and being villains. There's all kinds of different stars it would be awesome to see other star radiation powers. Maybe I'm overthinking.
A few other villains that come to mind, Silver Banshee, Rampage, Conduit, Mongul, Ultra Humanite, and Parasite.
Hey I think another rogue gallery that is very underrated is Thor’s rogue gallery, I mean it nvm gets brought up in any conversations (at least in my circles maybe I’m in the wrong circles) but Hela, Loki, Surtur, Ymir, Karnilla, Ego, Destroyer, Desak, and Gorr are all very good to great and even all time villains that play huge roles in marvel’s development. Is there a chance you guys could make a video talking about Thor’s rogue gallery? Idk I kinda want to give his villains more credit than they get
Mongul is another underrated superman villain.
Have you guys seen Brainiac in the show Krypton? It's the only time I've ever seen him in live-action, and they did a great job with him.
Never watched the show but his design was 🤌
He was in Smallville too.
I feel like if Mr. Mxyzptlk was ever to be brought into the Gunn-Safran DCU, the only person who could play him is Tiaka Waatti.
I also love the Brainiac Kryptonian A.I. stories. It makes their feud more personal than any other of his A-tier villains.
I think manchester black is a really underated villian of superman. Very distinct in comparison to other villians. Could also work well as a suicide squad member. He was so dope in superman vs the elite.
I really hope that this new dcu uses brainiac for a superman movie or a JL movie either way hope they make him threatening and memorable 😎🔥👍🏻 he is my favorite superman villain