1. The blades are fixed, the only way to slow the turbine down in a high wind situation is with the electronic braking system. Even the manual brake simply shorts out the output of the generator. 2. Properly installed solar systems have zero moving parts (except for cooling fans in the inverters/chargers. A wind turbine has moving parts by definition, therefor it will require more maintenance than a solar system. All you usually need to do with solar is keep the panels clean. 3. 680Kg/1,499lb (turbine alone, not including the mount) is rather heavy for a small footprint on any roof/building. Those are the major negatives in your advertisement for this product. Positives 1. Will work day or night in winds between 10 Kph (6.7mph) and 54Kph (33mph). Survival speed is 216Kph/134mph (for the turbine, not the mast). 2. It is a more energy dense solution than an equivalent sized area of solar panels. Roughly 4mx4m 3. Quieter than most other wind turbines. I'd use this in conjunction with a solar array and battery bank for either a hybrid or off-grid system.
@@FinancialConsultdotcodotza If you buy then in chunks you only need to replace them in chunks as well. That way you roll the savings into more panels, instead of paying up front.
You forgot the most damning thing about these vertical turbines, that they are so inefficient that they will not pay for themselves over their lifetime. There is a reason why VAWT companies go out of business. I have never seen any comments from anyone who is a happy owner of a vertical axis house turbine.
Can you give technical information as well? What is the voltage output how to connect to grid or battery, how to combine with solar with an inverter???
All fine and good but what happens in high winds what is the max wind speed before it is dangerous To have it up eg. Blades coming free and flying into property or people, or creating enough drag to tear mount from the roof may be rearing hold into the roof?
I like that other companies that closes the cups in as the wind increases so it can't go overspeed in any wind. As they put it. Why would you not make power when you have the most wind.
I am considering a vertical axis wind turbine that looks exactly like a tree, I call it : e-tree, the trunk of the e-tree is brown, the spinning blades are green , on the trunk of the e-tree, there are features of : wifi/mobile network, light and power outlet, to charge a car for example
Get the best of both worlds. Put 3 of these on the ends of the normal windmill blades, and it can spin even when the regular one can't. Plus you get EXTRA wind when they are spinning around as well.
This is a winner we need everyone to invest in wind and solar devices and keep batteries charged everone can be off grid or sell back to grid make money
There is no either or argument. There has to be integration of every system depending on location. The wind does not blow all the time everywhere, so you have to integrate.
1. It seems so simple the cost could /should be lower.? 2. If turbines were mounted on top of dual slope roof, the wind will be compressed increasing the power generated compared mounting at ground level. 3. At a height higher than obstructions the wind will have a a greater velocity than at ground level. 4. Near ground level, the wind has some resistance, hence the wind speed is is lessened.
@@michaelblandford5087 hi, if spinning less than 2,5mts doesn't produce any electricity, a 5kw wind turbine as to spin at least 500rev xmin to give you a 48v. In Sydney we never have this strong wind maybe 1 or 2 time x year. Thank you.
Good morning. I wish some law to protect buyers came soon, are there to many false advertising, I have bought a Galaxy 5000watt wind turbine, first arrived all in a mess box all crushed second I did install and don't work not even with wind up to 20Km per hour, the Galaxy stated this turbine is working with wind from 2,5 m/s, all false, please save your monies and troubles don't buy any wind turbine until you see working with your own eyes.
could you tell me the foundation(hole size)for an eddygt1kw turbine please has a 2 piece 9m mast motor 180kg,found new one no information on how big to make ? got everything to go in the hole(huge bolts and lock nuts etc) was thinking one meter deep,buy 2meters @500 from middle to make base wider,ground hard clay at 800 to a meter ,thankyou
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How is a warranty of 10 years on the generator and 5 on the blades better than a 10 year warranty on solar panels? Also, most panel warranties are 20 or 25 years.
No that is the dihedral wings that generate the power, the inner is a savonius drag turbine and is needed to get the outer blade spinning. It will not self start on its own This is not a new design, it has featured for at least 10-20 years
So it needs minimum 3m/s to move and only produce 500w at 6m/s. Where I live (southern Sweden) we have wind around 2-3 m/s in 90% of all year. I was looking for a home wind turbine, but it clearly needs to be more efficient and wind sensitive than this.
@@alecchi no, I have dropped the idea for the moment. The price seems to high in comparison with the outcome currently. Why, did you have a suggestion?
3100 %, really? Let's see the math. And this is just the first red flag and one of many. These things don't make much noise because they don't make much power! These have been around for 40 years, they used to call them egg beaters. People with little technical aptitude get hypnotized by them. "Wow, they look really cool". "Cool man, look at the pretty colors". No prices no, no specs, no retailers, no math. This is all here just to suck you in! 😂😂😂
Betz isn't the only math involved. For example vawts increase power output when placed by each other whereas three blades hinder each other Oxford did a study on it
I built my own for a lot cheaper and I'm powering a 300 amp alternator 12 volts. Do the math and I spent under $500 total cost, there's a you tube video I posted of it.
@@michaelalaego8759 I used this design as the starting point and did many changes for high wind application. th-cam.com/video/vCcHKikC8I4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=35vJyV9_KEthu9H7
I mean you could have a 600 square foot home and no electricity so it is hard to answer you question accurately... what you should do is measure how much power you use in 24 hour period or better yet get the average of a 7 day period and then ask how many turbines you would need to for x amount of power
Is a very nice wind turbine that l need one . How will I able to get this type, the cost and where here , Kenya. If there's an agent or dealer, give me a contact, likewise your company 's contact too. You are the best.
everyone who believes this should look at the kwh on their power bill. 2400kwh can run the average household for a year? not my average household. I run solor and wind as well as being connected to the grid .
Sorry, I can’t find anything on what you’re showing except the same turbine on Aliexpress, nothing on the company. I have to stick with the skeptics on this one.- that being said, a combo of solar and wind is truly the only real way to make off the grid work unless your property has a stream.
Lol..Most Solar panels have 25 years warrenty. 3000Wp of solar panels costs about 700 usd (over here). 35dB "as loud as a normal conversation" 24h a day doesn't annoy neighbours ? It would annoy the living hell out of me if I had to listen to that noise 24h a day! After I heard that I didn't watch or listened any more. Ps: over here it's also not allowed to lie in advertisements
And what use is it when the wind doesn't blow? Why add complexity (and rooftop junk) to your own home circuitry and the grid? Both should be as simple and failsafe to get as close to 100% availability of power as possible. And your roof tiling should be as simple and maintainable as possible, not cluttered and covered by devices like windmills and solar panels.
This design has been around since the 1970's: A Darrieus turbine with Savonius turbines at the center for easy startup. Seemed clever way back then, but it never caught on. Real wind people know better than to use this design, which is why, after 50 years, you never see them. Strange how this video shows so many various vertical-axis and horizontal-axis (propeller-type) wind turbines, and both small and large versions of the DS3000 Hi-VAWT turbine, stating numbers from the larger one, when showing the smaller one. A word to the wise: Vertical-Axis wind turbines make less power than regular wind turbines, and quickly fail. Find a single happy owner of a vertical-axis wind turbine, assuming you can find a single vertical-axis wind turbine still operating, anywhere in the world! There are strong reasons why the prevailing propeller-style design predominates. It uses less material, to make more power, and is more efficient, and more reliable. And NO, these vertical-axis turbines will NOT outperform solar panels, until dark at least. Assuming the vertical-axis turbine lasts even a whole day, which it probably won't. The minute you have enough wind to make decent power, it will destroy the vertical-axis turbine. Which is why you will NEVER see one in a windfarm! :)
Comparative performance of Vawt and Hawt wind turbines. Vawt is at a lower altitude, and starts working earlier than Hawt. th-cam.com/users/shortsZqweCWvDos8
Yeah right, What you got there is a nice energy device for LED light-bulbs, My whole-house water boiler needs a minimum 4kw of power per hour to keep my house at +20*C inside, at an outside temp of~ -8*C. That maths out to ~100kwh per 24hr day...... just to maintain a temp differential of 28*C. On a typical windy January day at -30*C outside, that will be at least double, so say 200 kw for 24 hours. That's 6000kwh for the month of January. How many of those tiny generators will I need? Well, you say this generator will output about 2460 kw per stinking year, so (2460/12)= 205 per month and 6000/205= about 30, therefore; Answer; I will need about 30 of them all working at full capacity. Did I get the math right. I mean I'm no Einstein, maybe I'm wrong. To continue; 30 times $6000= $180,000 just to purchase them! They're not even in my yard yet, nor installed. I can heat my house all winter on $3000 worth of hauled-in cordwood, ALL WINTER. That's an average of say $600per month; and the inside temp during the day, is gonna average probably closer to 24*C. Lemmee see; $180,000/$3000 = oh about 60 years to break even... before shipping, before installation, before repairs, maintenance, and/or periodic replacement, and assuming the things will handle running WFO. What you got there is a real nice energy device for LED bulbs . Try to imagine what my house, my garage, and my 3/8acre yard would look like with 30 of those whirlygigs gyrating their little hearts out. Now if you were to sell me all 30 of those for the one-time cost of $6000 delivered, installed, and tested; well then, I could overlook how they might appear to my neighbors, and try to ignore the friggen racket, because I can imagine with all 30 of them revved out in January, that my neighbors are NOT gonna be very happy. But yeah, I can see that, what ya got there is a nice energy device for LED bulbs.
Six thousand dollars is way too much for this system. Three thousand standing complete. This is nothing new. Units like this were built outside palm springs california in the late nineties. And I can print one out pretty easy. Generators and load banks are ten ceat At the lowe's
43 db noise is 43 db... maintenance ! bearings fail creating down time, motors fail as well! more downtime, roofmount? nonono!!!! noise get transduced to inside of house ! straight up no comparison except, comparing powers of both. Honestly, a combination of both (solar + wind) and not the one or the other. unless you can throw dollars in the wind on a open ranch.
@@luckydubeinrc5165 permanent magnet generators (PMG) have magnets which rotate around stationary windings. The moving magnetic field causes electric flow. It is not a typical motor running backwards.
I know a good deal of physics, but I’m missing the “scam” part of this. Vertical turbines do turn in the wind, so that can’t be it. Are you saying that their figures on production are wrong? That can’t be it because that’s not a physics issue. What are you saying is scam about this?
@@gaylanbishop1641 Very simple. The swept area is very small. For a vertical axis wind turbine it is only proportional to the diameter of the thing whereas with a proper horizontal axis wind turbine it is proportional to the square. Horizontal axis wind turbines require far less "stuff" than vertical axis wind turbines for the same output. Domestic wind turbines are generally not very big. Wind speed. Places where people live tend not to be that windy. Since output is proportional to the cube of the wind speed, siting is crucial. Wind speed increases with height above the ground and it is straightforward to get a HAWT turbine high up using a tall pylon; not so easy with a vertical axis wind turbine. That is why people who buy domestic wind turbines are almost always disappointed. It is no accident that all successful commercial wind turbines are large horizontal axis devices located in windy places. That is why wind turbines intended for the average home are a waste of money.
@@rogerphelps9939 Good information, but I don’t think a lack of physics knowledge is the problem here. That’s some VERY specialized info and not knowing that isn’t fairly representative of ignorance of physics. It seems that the real issue, then lies with misrepresentation of the thing’s capacity. Using their numbers, which are independent of the physics used to produce the output, they predict one of these home devices outperforming a similar investment in solar. So I believe your point is that the numbers they present as reasonable to expect are false.
@@rogerphelps9939I live in a windy area and I’m using 24 panels and 5 big lithium batteries for complete off grid. I was thinking of trying a turbine because of the wind when it’s cloudy or night time. Is there any turbine worth getting? You seem to know a lot about this.
@@robertrichard2322 or one american kid if you believe a crooker CDC that says they are fat. Don't forget the load put on any pole with that big a spinning mass. It sure doesn't look like they used carbon fiber to keep the weight down.
Spinning at low speeds doesn't mean it's charging effectively. Do some vert exhaustive research and accurate sums before buying any domestic wind turbines. Everyone I have looked at to date talk up their efficiency beyond scientific reality. Just saying.
Are you mentally challenged? Something with moving parts will never have a lower maintenance cost than a system without moving parts. Elementary logic. I am shocked by the like/dislike ratio: 1000 vs 10. A healthy dose of skepticism will save you a lot of money in your life.
Until someone wakes up these are basically useless to the average homeowner. By the time this is installed with all the stuff you need, the cost will be over $10000. Don't waste almost EVERYONES time & money until the cost is maybe $2000 or less. The only one close might be the smaller 0-Wind Turbine that isn't for sale yet, & estimated at several HUNDRED dollars. That might be worth checking into. This one & the Liam F1 are ridiculously expensive & will go nowhere.
Solar panels the price is lower of 0,30 usd not 2,60 usd first lie second all wind turbine has lost in production and wind power to protect electric.... bla bla bla 6000 for one ???? 200 usd is the price now 2023 .Go sleep and dream for your prices
Blah, blah, blah. The average wind speed where I live is about 8 MPH. Yesterday we had windstorms with multiple 70 MPH straight line winds that lasted for minutes from the outflow boundary. Forecast for tomorrow is the same. Many locations have this problem. The most important information you can give is how they are protected from this punishment.
3100% of what?Meaningless statements like this title destroy credibility of the article. It’s like the stupid statement “One of the only” . Goes well with “ two of the twoly “.
This is complete hoax. Such a small turbine will produce substantially less than 100Watt at 3m/s which is the average wind speed for most locations inland. Over a year this amounts to less than 800 kWh. You can't run a home on that. The average yearly electricity consumption of a home in the US is 10 000 kWh.
you could charge your cell phone on it. That is what I figure I will make with a water wheel on my house water main. Every time I flush a toilet, or make some ice in the freezer it will spin. Water board pays to keep the water pressure in the line.
@@robertsmith2956 That is double what a 3 kw solar system will produce.. BTW, most homes use around 40 kwh/day, or, 1200 kWh/mo which is 1.2 MWh/mo. Compare this to the 0.775 MWh/mo the turbine produces and you will see it is an acceptable number.
1. The blades are fixed, the only way to slow the turbine down in a high wind situation is with the electronic braking system. Even the manual brake simply shorts out the output of the generator.
2. Properly installed solar systems have zero moving parts (except for cooling fans in the inverters/chargers. A wind turbine has moving parts by definition, therefor it will require more maintenance than a solar system. All you usually need to do with solar is keep the panels clean.
3. 680Kg/1,499lb (turbine alone, not including the mount) is rather heavy for a small footprint on any roof/building.
Those are the major negatives in your advertisement for this product.
Positives
1. Will work day or night in winds between 10 Kph (6.7mph) and 54Kph (33mph). Survival speed is 216Kph/134mph (for the turbine, not the mast).
2. It is a more energy dense solution than an equivalent sized area of solar panels. Roughly 4mx4m
3. Quieter than most other wind turbines.
I'd use this in conjunction with a solar array and battery bank for either a hybrid or off-grid system.
...and replace the entire solar panel after 20yrs? I see wind water pumps run for decades on the farm and maintenance is minute.
@@FinancialConsultdotcodotza If you buy then in chunks you only need to replace them in chunks as well. That way you roll the savings into more panels, instead of paying up front.
You forgot the most damning thing about these vertical turbines, that they are so inefficient that they will not pay for themselves over their lifetime. There is a reason why VAWT companies go out of business. I have never seen any comments from anyone who is a happy owner of a vertical axis house turbine.
@tzenophile thats a complete lie. Hivawt ds3000 is certified by swcc. Payback time of about 8 years.
@@tzenophilebut this all applies to solar too
My panel warranty is 25 years prorated. The vertical wind generator is very interesting.
Already have one, it’s great at charging my canal boat batteries 😊
Have you followed turbine guy on youtube ? He's a hivawt guy and I love hearing the positive stories from owners like yourself
I really want to have wind turbine in my property, but the amount of BS and lies in these videos around the internet is very demotivating.
Follow turbine guy. Literally illegal for him to lie as it would be fraud
Can you give technical information as well? What is the voltage output how to connect to grid or battery, how to combine with solar with an inverter???
This is the best vawt on the market, thanks for putting out the truth
All fine and good but what happens in high winds what is the max wind speed before it is dangerous To have it up eg. Blades coming free and flying into property or people, or creating enough drag to tear mount from the roof may be rearing hold into the roof?
I like that other companies that closes the cups in as the wind increases so it can't go overspeed in any wind.
As they put it. Why would you not make power when you have the most wind.
I am considering a vertical axis wind turbine that looks exactly like a tree, I call it : e-tree,
the trunk of the e-tree is brown, the spinning blades are green ,
on the trunk of the e-tree, there are features of : wifi/mobile network, light and power outlet, to charge a car for example
Get the best of both worlds.
Put 3 of these on the ends of the normal windmill blades, and it can spin even when the regular one can't. Plus you get EXTRA wind when they are spinning around as well.
This is a winner we need everyone to invest in wind and solar devices and keep batteries charged everone can be off grid or sell back to grid make money
Thanks for the very informative and understandable video about a very important subject.
There is no either or argument. There has to be integration of every system depending on location. The wind does not blow all the time everywhere, so you have to integrate.
1. It seems so simple the cost could /should be lower.?
2. If turbines were mounted on top of dual slope roof, the wind will be compressed increasing the power generated compared mounting at ground level.
3. At a height higher than obstructions the wind will have a a greater velocity than at ground level.
4. Near ground level, the wind has some resistance, hence the wind speed is is lessened.
Hivawt wants their profits high.
Hemp, bamboo and kelp are the best plants to stop global warming and can be used as fuel for everything
I've seen one of these, there was virtually no wind, but it was still spinning
@@michaelblandford5087 hi, if spinning less than 2,5mts doesn't produce any electricity, a 5kw wind turbine as to spin at least 500rev xmin to give you a 48v. In Sydney we never have this strong wind maybe 1 or 2 time x year.
Thank you.
Good morning.
I wish some law to protect buyers came soon, are there to many false advertising, I have bought a Galaxy 5000watt wind turbine, first arrived all in a mess box all crushed second I did install and don't work not even with wind up to 20Km per hour, the Galaxy stated this turbine is working with wind from 2,5 m/s, all false, please save your monies and troubles don't buy any wind turbine until you see working with your own eyes.
Galaxy turbines are not certified unlike the ds3000 hivawt shown in the video. Sorry you got scammed next time verify the turbine is certified
I have been into solar and wind power professionally for 24 years. 95% of what you are claiming is a lie!
I agree. Lots of BS out there. I need a real consultant. Could you help me?
Exactly!
Yeah?? Prove it to all of us who are not versed with this wind turbine
Wish to know from you about the best power source
Thanks and regards
Must be in competition with you from a no response to anyone 😂
Thank you
where can you get one? whats the cost of it? how many do you need for a 4 to 3 bedroom house?
Texas has low wind sometimes need a combination of energies
could you tell me the foundation(hole size)for an eddygt1kw turbine please has a 2 piece 9m mast motor 180kg,found new one no information on how big to make ? got everything to go in the hole(huge bolts and lock nuts etc) was thinking one meter deep,buy 2meters @500 from middle to make base wider,ground hard clay at 800 to a meter ,thankyou
Vertical axis wind turbines are an endless source of energy that produces electricity from the wind, a clean energy source that stimulates development
Do you actually own one, or is this just something you have read on the internet?
I’m also curious to understand how a fixed blade angle can be changed dynamically by a mobile app after the blades have been mounted on the pole.
THANK GOD : SOMETHING BETTER IS ON THE WAY SOON .
IT SHOULD ARRIVE WHEN THE DOLLAR IS WORTH A DOLLAR NOT THREE CENTS ...
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@@ARLGD Hello, robots!
How is a warranty of 10 years on the generator and 5 on the blades better than a 10 year warranty on solar panels? Also, most panel warranties are 20 or 25 years.
Aside from it being a bird blender, these things are great. I dont see why everybody went with horizontal
Fact: if blade is q type darrius hybrid, and 1m height, typical output power by 5m/s wind is below 30W.
Well are the bearings stainless steel?
I live in South Africa. How much do these turbines cost?
Were can you buy this unit?
From jay nygard the turbine guy
amazon
Thanks, but I can't understand the purpose of 3 outer rings. Is it for
maintain momentum of the system or for other reasons ?
No that is the dihedral wings that generate the power, the inner is a savonius drag turbine and is needed to get the outer blade spinning.
It will not self start on its own
This is not a new design, it has featured for at least 10-20 years
So tell me where I can get one of these ….
So it needs minimum 3m/s to move and only produce 500w at 6m/s. Where I live (southern Sweden) we have wind around 2-3 m/s in 90% of all year. I was looking for a home wind turbine, but it clearly needs to be more efficient and wind sensitive than this.
Have you found a wind turbine for your problem?
@@alecchi no, I have dropped the idea for the moment. The price seems to high in comparison with the outcome currently. Why, did you have a suggestion?
Wher to bay them?
Jay nygard turbine guy on youtube
Amazon
Как турбина тормозится в случае ураганного ветра ?
Sir.Thanks For Information.Is it D. C.or A .C. power
What about if the Wind is too strong??
120m/s is okay or Typhoon No. 27
3100 %, really? Let's see the math. And this is just the first red flag and one of many. These things don't make much noise because they don't make much power! These have been around for 40 years, they used to call them egg beaters. People with little technical aptitude get hypnotized by them. "Wow, they look really cool". "Cool man, look at the pretty colors". No prices no, no specs, no retailers, no math. This is all here just to suck you in! 😂😂😂
How close is it to Betz's theorem in efficiency?
Betz isn't the only math involved. For example vawts increase power output when placed by each other whereas three blades hinder each other Oxford did a study on it
I built my own for a lot cheaper and I'm powering a 300 amp alternator 12 volts. Do the math and I spent under $500 total cost, there's a you tube video I posted of it.
Thx man.
Link to your video please.
@@michaelalaego8759
th-cam.com/video/OP4Iy9EoF-E/w-d-xo.htmlsi=HvjiN8VPEFMYsjxX
@@michaelalaego8759 I used this design as the starting point and did many changes for high wind application.
th-cam.com/video/vCcHKikC8I4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=35vJyV9_KEthu9H7
Boss... Well done, these certainly seem overpriced for what they are at the end of the day.
Comparable to what I paid for my sunpower panels.
How many turbines would I need to power a 600 square foot home?
I estimate that you will need more than 20 turbines. See my recent comment.
I mean you could have a 600 square foot home and no electricity so it is hard to answer you question accurately... what you should do is measure how much power you use in 24 hour period or better yet get the average of a 7 day period and then ask how many turbines you would need to for x amount of power
A single 3kw turbine and 3kw of solar and you'll have all you need
Is a very nice wind turbine that l need one . How will I able to get this type, the cost and where here , Kenya. If there's an agent or dealer, give me a contact, likewise your company 's contact too.
You are the best.
Where are they manufactured ??? thanks.
Free Taiwan 🇹🇼
Can you advise where I can get a proposal for the supply and installation of the wind turbine please?
No
Add a fan! Walmart sells leaf blowers for $40!!!
everyone who believes this should look at the kwh on their power bill. 2400kwh can run the average household for a year? not my average household. I run solor and wind as well as being connected to the grid .
Just had a look at my electricity usage for October '22 to October '23. It's 1100kWh.
I'm hoping they meant to say MEGAwatts.
Could you please give more information about wind turbines energy and it’s prices please
Sorry, I can’t find anything on what you’re showing except the same turbine on Aliexpress, nothing on the company. I have to stick with the skeptics on this one.- that being said, a combo of solar and wind is truly the only real way to make off the grid work unless your property has a stream.
What options are available for those who live in California and want wind turbines for the home?
just a guess, but "move to another state that will allow it"
Let me know further details such as is it available in india?
How I find in Indonesia my country
Pity, not allowed in the netherlands on roofs.
Lie lie lie !!!
Bandit
how to buy this product
If i buy but not connected to any Smart meter not going to work for electric power maybe i buy one if ism going to live in Africa Haiti, Martinique
What is the cost
he said $6K. didn't say if that includes the pole, and foundation.
@@robertsmith2956 Does not, nor is it 6k. more like 16k.
So better than the Archimedes?
They both suck
Lol..Most Solar panels have 25 years warrenty. 3000Wp of solar panels costs about 700 usd (over here).
35dB "as loud as a normal conversation" 24h a day doesn't annoy neighbours ? It would annoy the living hell out of me if I had to listen to that noise 24h a day!
After I heard that I didn't watch or listened any more.
Ps: over here it's also not allowed to lie in advertisements
Electric Elder / Wind Elder ?👈😃😃🙏
And what use is it when the wind doesn't blow? Why add complexity (and rooftop junk) to your own home circuitry and the grid? Both should be as simple and failsafe to get as close to 100% availability of power as possible. And your roof tiling should be as simple and maintainable as possible, not cluttered and covered by devices like windmills and solar panels.
Would have been nice if these guys had credited me and my channel given the large amount of my footage they use.th-cam.com/users/TurbineGuy
I have a 25 year warranty on my solar panels from winmar
Your numbers are way off. That won’t even come close to powering a home in the us for a year.
Depends on house size. A 3kw turbine and 3kw of solar covers most hones bigger homes may need 7.5kw of solar with the 3kw
Robots do lie...what programed you ! Ai 😅
I want to be your dealer in Pakistan for Ds 3000 wind turbine
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Watch youtube video on the gyro wind turbine more power less size regards Graham Flowers MEng
This design has been around since the 1970's: A Darrieus turbine with Savonius turbines at the center for easy startup. Seemed clever way back then, but it never caught on. Real wind people know better than to use this design, which is why, after 50 years, you never see them. Strange how this video shows so many various vertical-axis and horizontal-axis (propeller-type) wind turbines, and both small and large versions of the DS3000 Hi-VAWT turbine, stating numbers from the larger one, when showing the smaller one. A word to the wise: Vertical-Axis wind turbines make less power than regular wind turbines, and quickly fail. Find a single happy owner of a vertical-axis wind turbine, assuming you can find a single vertical-axis wind turbine still operating, anywhere in the world! There are strong reasons why the prevailing propeller-style design predominates. It uses less material, to make more power, and is more efficient, and more reliable. And NO, these vertical-axis turbines will NOT outperform solar panels, until dark at least. Assuming the vertical-axis turbine lasts even a whole day, which it probably won't. The minute you have enough wind to make decent power, it will destroy the vertical-axis turbine. Which is why you will NEVER see one in a windfarm! :)
Why are there just promo vids about home turbine like for years now
and never actual consumers experinces?
Go look up turbine guy he's been showing at home usage for years
Comparative performance of Vawt and Hawt wind turbines. Vawt is at a lower altitude, and starts working earlier than Hawt.
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I can't find any decent wind generators for sale in the US. These youtube videos only feel like hype. Solar is easy to get.
Not just that - if you could find one it would come in a crate 13+ feet each side and 9+ feet high! Want something that big on your house?
@@bogus_not_me I'm a country boy so I have plenty of space. I want to supplement my solar array.
i would like to see some true science behind these windmill, as there are so many claims. Out there, which are true.
The hivawt is certified by the swcc go look it up
Yeah right, What you got there is a nice energy device for LED light-bulbs,
My whole-house water boiler needs a minimum 4kw of power per hour to keep my house at +20*C inside, at an outside temp of~ -8*C. That maths out to ~100kwh per 24hr day...... just to maintain a temp differential of 28*C. On a typical windy January day at -30*C outside, that will be at least double, so say 200 kw for 24 hours. That's 6000kwh for the month of January.
How many of those tiny generators will I need?
Well, you say this generator will output about 2460 kw per stinking year, so (2460/12)= 205 per month and 6000/205= about 30, therefore;
Answer; I will need about 30 of them all working at full capacity. Did I get the math right. I mean I'm no Einstein, maybe I'm wrong.
To continue;
30 times $6000= $180,000 just to purchase them! They're not even in my yard yet, nor installed.
I can heat my house all winter on $3000 worth of hauled-in cordwood, ALL WINTER. That's an average of say $600per month; and the inside temp during the day, is gonna average probably closer to 24*C.
Lemmee see; $180,000/$3000 = oh about 60 years to break even... before shipping, before installation, before repairs, maintenance, and/or periodic replacement, and assuming the things will handle running WFO.
What you got there is a real nice energy device for LED bulbs .
Try to imagine what my house, my garage, and my 3/8acre yard would look like with 30 of those whirlygigs gyrating their little hearts out.
Now if you were to sell me all 30 of those for the one-time cost of $6000 delivered, installed, and tested; well then, I could overlook how they might appear to my neighbors, and try to ignore the friggen racket, because I can imagine with all 30 of them revved out in January, that my neighbors are NOT gonna be very happy.
But yeah, I can see that, what ya got there is a nice energy device for LED bulbs.
You are why they dig up mountains to mine Coal.
Six thousand dollars is way too much for this system. Three thousand standing complete. This is nothing new.
Units like this were built outside palm springs california in the late nineties. And I can print one out pretty easy. Generators and load banks are ten ceat At the lowe's
I assume the price tag is to scam tax incentives more than anything.
Dude it's aircraft aluminum the scrap value is 3 thousand ...
3100 % of exactly what. ?
3100% more BS
$6k! Yah, you expect people to buy it in numbers even what you claim is true?
This is ground breacking
43 db noise is 43 db... maintenance ! bearings fail creating down time, motors fail as well! more downtime, roofmount? nonono!!!! noise get transduced to inside of house !
straight up no comparison except, comparing powers of both. Honestly, a combination of both (solar + wind) and not the one or the other. unless you can throw dollars in the wind on a open ranch.
Bearings don't fail in these and they don't need oil
No motor in these either. PMG
bearings fail = maintenance !!!@@kahlernygard809
how is possible no motor n o power@@TurbineGuy
@@luckydubeinrc5165 permanent magnet generators (PMG) have magnets which rotate around stationary windings. The moving magnetic field causes electric flow. It is not a typical motor running backwards.
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Why don't people learn some physics. Then they would understand that this is a scam.
I know a good deal of physics, but I’m missing the “scam” part of this. Vertical turbines do turn in the wind, so that can’t be it. Are you saying that their figures on production are wrong? That can’t be it because that’s not a physics issue. What are you saying is scam about this?
@@gaylanbishop1641 Very simple. The swept area is very small. For a vertical axis wind turbine it is only proportional to the diameter of the thing whereas with a proper horizontal axis wind turbine it is proportional to the square. Horizontal axis wind turbines require far less "stuff" than vertical axis wind turbines for the same output. Domestic wind turbines are generally not very big. Wind speed. Places where people live tend not to be that windy. Since output is proportional to the cube of the wind speed, siting is crucial. Wind speed increases with height above the ground and it is straightforward to get a HAWT turbine high up using a tall pylon; not so easy with a vertical axis wind turbine. That is why people who buy domestic wind turbines are almost always disappointed. It is no accident that all successful commercial wind turbines are large horizontal axis devices located in windy places. That is why wind turbines intended for the average home are a waste of money.
@@rogerphelps9939 Good information, but I don’t think a lack of physics knowledge is the problem here. That’s some VERY specialized info and not knowing that isn’t fairly representative of ignorance of physics. It seems that the real issue, then lies with misrepresentation of the thing’s capacity. Using their numbers, which are independent of the physics used to produce the output, they predict one of these home devices outperforming a similar investment in solar. So I believe your point is that the numbers they present as reasonable to expect are false.
@@gaylanbishop1641 Precisely.
@@rogerphelps9939I live in a windy area and I’m using 24 panels and 5 big lithium batteries for complete off grid. I was thinking of trying a turbine because of the wind when it’s cloudy or night time. Is there any turbine worth getting? You seem to know a lot about this.
Size is a major concern - 4 meters by 3 meters means a box 10 feet high and 13.2 feet per side - WAY TO BIG FOR A NORMAL HOME!!
ya 4 meters is HUGE basically 2 and a half average sized people in diameter...
@@robertrichard2322 or one american kid if you believe a crooker CDC that says they are fat.
Don't forget the load put on any pole with that big a spinning mass. It sure doesn't look like they used carbon fiber to keep the weight down.
Too expensive. Competing models are much cheaper.
Does the turbine chop up birds?
Solar is not your competitor!!!
I thumb this down because I don't like computerized voices. In high winds most vertical turbines just spin the same speed and can handle high winds.
Spinning at low speeds doesn't mean it's charging effectively. Do some vert exhaustive research and accurate sums before buying any domestic wind turbines. Everyone I have looked at to date talk up their efficiency beyond scientific reality. Just saying.
It "could be" but it's NOT.
Are you mentally challenged? Something with moving parts will never have a lower maintenance cost than a system without moving parts. Elementary logic.
I am shocked by the like/dislike ratio: 1000 vs 10.
A healthy dose of skepticism will save you a lot of money in your life.
Until someone wakes up these are basically useless to the average homeowner. By the time this is installed with all the stuff you need, the cost will be over $10000. Don't waste almost EVERYONES time & money until the cost is maybe $2000 or less. The only one close might be the smaller 0-Wind Turbine that isn't for sale yet, & estimated at several HUNDRED dollars. That might be worth checking into. This one & the Liam F1 are ridiculously expensive & will go nowhere.
What a nonsense. How can wind outperform solar, or the other way around.
solar wind runs 24/7. Sun sets 12 of every 24 hours.
I use a water wheel to power my chicken coupe. Creek flows 350 days of the year.
Solar panels the price is lower of 0,30 usd not 2,60 usd first lie second all wind turbine has lost in production and wind power to protect electric.... bla bla bla 6000 for one ???? 200 usd is the price now 2023 .Go sleep and dream for your prices
Blah, blah, blah. The average wind speed where I live is about 8 MPH. Yesterday we had windstorms with multiple 70 MPH straight line winds that lasted for minutes from the outflow boundary. Forecast for tomorrow is the same. Many locations have this problem. The most important information you can give is how they are protected from this punishment.
Hivawt has 165plus mph wind speed rating
3100% of what?Meaningless statements like this title destroy credibility of the article. It’s like the stupid statement “One of the only” . Goes well with “ two of the twoly “.
3100% more BS
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This is complete hoax. Such a small turbine will produce substantially less than 100Watt at 3m/s which is the average wind speed for most locations inland. Over a year this amounts to less than 800 kWh. You can't run a home on that. The average yearly electricity consumption of a home in the US is 10 000 kWh.
The hoax is computing a production based on 3m/s all the time for one year.
you could charge your cell phone on it. That is what I figure I will make with a water wheel on my house water main. Every time I flush a toilet, or make some ice in the freezer it will spin.
Water board pays to keep the water pressure in the line.
I have a 3000 in western MN that produces over 9000 kwh/yr. Fact.
@@TurbineGuy Do you realize how bad that is? you need to be getting MAGAWATT hours a month if you want useful power.
@@robertsmith2956 That is double what a 3 kw solar system will produce.. BTW, most homes use around 40 kwh/day, or, 1200 kWh/mo which is 1.2 MWh/mo. Compare this to the 0.775 MWh/mo the turbine produces and you will see it is an acceptable number.