I'm a licensed tech of 2 years now thanks to "The Nail Hub" tutorials on TH-cam (all gel services). 15 years prior, I used acrylic on myself but stopped due to ventilation issues. Had the industry not advanced, I would still be stuck with minimal art and natural nail services only. Had it not been for TH-cam (folks like you two), I would have never considered getting licensed because of the stigma Tracy described. Even in 2021, I got "looks" from family about doing nails. It's a weekend thing (Front-End Developer Mon-Fri) at a salon (commission) but I love it. In addition to the computer science education I have, I am also an art major (2 degrees). I cannot tell you how much I have to correct people who think art cannot help you as an adult in a career and how anyone can be "right brain" and "left brain" because we have both. 😏 It's old and untrue terminology that's holds everyone back at some level. Also - I understand that nail products need to be treated with respect (proper use & sanitation education) but the way this information and pro products are kept from the public is the reason all the more dangerous nail products end up in the Amazon carts of unsuspecting and uneducated public to later develope an allergy to....
@@jennifer4196 I have, but I'm faster at building a nail with gel, so I prefer it for most of what I do. Poly/hybrid is great for repairs when you need to replace a corner or sidewall because gels "round off" too much and a form is best placed with the free-edge removed, so it fits neatly into my repair service.
When I attended nail school I went at night and held a full time job during the day. When my workday ended, I would change into the scrubs we were required to wear in class and then leave the building. My boss at the time knew I was in nail school, saw me in my scrubs and said to me, “you have to wear all of that to learn to paint nails?” I bid her a good day and went on my way.
I'm a nail tech in Europe and it drives me nuts to see ppl commenting "I pay €20 for this back home" ok? and??? different economy + your nail tech back home 100% undercharges too! damn, everyone forgets that inflation hits us too and that nails aren't a necessity but a LUXURY. A luxury that requires much skills and investing in training on our part. I can't wait to raise my prices and see other nail techs here do the same. I wanna see nail techs charge their worth and feel good and NOT guilty about it. I want clients and other beauty professionals to respect us. It's the bare minimum and baffles me how people are already actively fighting on it.
I was over at a “friend’s” house for dinner last week. I mentioned that I was wrapping up my last month of school and what all I was studying. She made a comment like, “it’s just nails. It’s not like it’s an actual art. Nobody wants to pay for that Instagram bs. I hate it when nail techs call themselves artist. It’s so dumb.” I was speechless.
We’re sorry you had to deal with that. People often underestimate the hard work that goes into jobs if they don’t know everything they goes into it. Don’t let them stop you for reaching your goals🩷
Here in Oklahoma legislators are considering stopping the license of cosmetologist/nail techs. I feel this is wrong in so many ways. We're working with chemicals and safety needs to be maintained. 😞☠️❤️💅🏻
It’s also this thing where ppl will willingly go to a hairstylist that is not licensed but has skill and will pay $300-$500 for a service with no complaints, getting it done in an unprofessional setting.. it’s like ohh she does hair, I’m there! Oh she does nails, she charges how much? Oh no nails are nothing they don’t deserve that amount for some nails 🙄
It’s because people/society put more emphasis on having your hair done/looking good vs. nails. Also with hair the results whether cut or color are semi-permanent until it grows out, so people are more willing to pay to avoid mistakes. With nails if you don’t like a set you could remove it/get it fixed rather easily. Not saying the mindset is right but that’s what I see from laypeople with services
I had a similar conversation recently. I come from an education background and people were always very impressed when I told them I was a math tutor, but now I'm sort of reluctant to tell people I'm a nail tech because you can see them trying to school their facial expression. They kind of just go "oh! Ok..." and it's like they immediately assume I'm unintelligent or I'm in a career that is subpar. When the reverse is true. I'm far more successful now, plus I'm passing skills on to others.
I am so thankful that an enthusiast like myself has a place to buy quality products, from a company that stands behind them. I also appreciate that you guys don't look down on us. When I think about the junk I was using before I found you guys 😳
Finding you on amazon is the exact reason I started to follow your channel on youtube! It's such a great marketing tool apart from also providing customers instant access to your products!
Thank you for explaining all of this. I think I'm just following great ppl & accounts bc I never hear anyone down talking nails but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen and I'm sorry that it does. I've been learning nails for 4-ish years now via the greats of TH-cam University and I still drop my jaw at how y'all can do a full set so quickly. Thinking about a salon environment and how quickly and precisely ppl are just blows my mind. Ppl deserve to be paid fairly!
I am a Licensed Cosmetologist who chooses to do Nails Only. Why? I love it. But, I won't accept anyone attempting to "talk down" at me. Doing Nails is almost esoteric. I feel elated, much more creatively accomplished. Hair is creative, but Nails is Art!
This is a very good watch and brings up a lot of interesting points! And honestly no matter how many times people go to a beauty supply shop to get their own hair color that are unlicensed 90% of the time they will get tired of it and go back to a professional 🤷🏻♀️ I feel if there is proper education on products that are available I don’t feel a threat to loosing any clients. Bc I know my people are with me to chill and have an experience
I love this! Particularly the Restaurant reference. I'm a licensed/qualified tech in Australia. (We do need qualifications to charge for our services or work in the industry, but probably not as regulated as it is in U.S) What I find is that when I'm educating or making suggestions to my clients, they nearly always say, "You're the professional, whatever you think is best" . It's great to be acknowledged as a professional and that's why there's always going to be work for me in my business setting. I agree that anyone who loves nails should be able to have a go. Art enthusiasts, garden enthusiasts, jewellery enthusiasts etc all get access to what they need, to have a red hot go at something they want to try. Thoroughly enjoyed this Biz Talk ❤
I was literally talking about this earlier this morning and honestly this is the VERY reason I stopped having the motivation to do nails it like they don’t respect us or our skill and especially when you aren’t licensed other techs stick their nose up at you when all the while you do better quality nails then they do..
Love this chat! A couple of months ago a company I really like announced they were finally opening up their products to nail enthusiast (mind you, just a couple of things) and all professional nail techs freaked out! I am a nail enthusiast who is going to nail school to get licensed, and couldn’t have done without access to professional products such as YoungNails. It’s a pity that they see everyone as competition, instead of being happy that more people are interested in their craft. I just started following a bunch of nail techs in the area to see what they do and what is offered/wanted in the area. But the main reason is to support them!
@@Tarasaurus13 I don't know if this is what the original poster was talking about but you might check out Light Elegance via The Nail Hub's TH-cam channel. I'm in that course and it is amazing and so thorough. There is a testing component to it to check your knowledge before you can purchase. You do the course (on your own time or live via TH-cam) and at the end get certified to purchase products. It's a pilot program right now and people have been really rude to her and them so I stay telling ppl how good it really is. You'll want to look for the video called "Big Announcement".
@@Tarasaurus13 It was Light Elegance. I am sorry I do know the TH-camr's name, but she made an announcement a couple months back that she was partnering with them. She'll be doing some sort of education training classes via online, to my understanding you must register with her and take the classes (for a fee of course) and then you can buy the Light Elegance Products. I hope that helps 😊
Hi from Argentina 🇦🇷. I'm totally agree with you, I think that the restaurant example it's really perfect. Here we have some people that made "soft gel" DIY and I don't feel that they are my competitors 💁🏻♀️. Thank you a lot!!! I follow you since 2009 when I start my way in the nails industry 😍🥰 The "Greg corner" with his "Tips & Tricks' helping me more than you can even imagine. Sorry for my rusty english😬
Thank you so much guys!! I LEARN A LOT EVERY DAY BECAUSE OF YOU AND YOUR WONDERFUL FORMS OF EDUCATING US!! I started as a nail enthusiast and did my research before, to see if Nails were for me. I was listening to your Biz Talk during my previous work every day until I finished all the episodes. Then I watched some You Tube videos with MORE TIPS, TRICKS AND REAL NAIL PROBLEM SOLUTIONS DOES AND DONTS, that put me on another level and was the last push that I needed to go to school and get my license ☺️ now I’m a Licensed Nail Tech…YOU GUYS ARE AMAZING LETTING ANYBODY have access to your stunning products and educating us about it🥰🥰🥰
It’s so weird that nails are look down on. In my opinion it’s one of the most difficult because people are constantly looking at there nails they notice everything even the things that aren’t there sometimes 🤣😩. The other services you need to physically get up and look. If you can do nails that other stuff is a breeze.
Man it's so great to hear professionals talk about this after feeling like I've been yelling this stuff into a void for years, lol. WE ARE ALL NAIL ENTHUSIASTS! I THOUGHT THAT WAS THE POINT LMAO
It’s easier and quicker to get a driving license or a gun in the states than a nail license and I know which of those three things can do the most damage to people. The nail license is probably several times more expensive as well and needs more renewal!
Hi from Australia. We need more people like you guys! I've had a snobby nail tech who charged me for gel polish removal, when I was getting a FILL. Gel polish has to be removed during a fill it's not an option. I was just dismissed BC I'm not a tech. It's still wrong to charge for removals if a fill service is being performed. My point is they were ridiculous.
An educated consumer is the best client to have. They will appreciate what you do and your products. They will respect your prices, and understand the why you charge what you charge.
I was planning on going to nail school but know one in my area is hiring….also nail school is very expensive!! I actually graduated the police academy in 2008 and that was more then a thousand dollar less. They do not offer student loans for nail school in my area. One day I hope to own my own salon. I follow you guys to learn!! Thank you!!
Boss Beeb & Chef Tracey always coming in with the exact topic of biz talk that I need at that moment 🏆🙌🔥 I'm an Irish nail tech with my first day renting a station in a local salon this Tuesday (so nervous and excited all at once). I've been an enthusiast for years, decided to quit my job and become a qualified nail tech. You're right, we don't have licensing like the States. We have insurance as the standardized level of clearance to work on anyone and you will only be insured for certificates accredited by the AIT/ABT who are the beauty therapy education board for all cosmetic industry sectors. They decided who can educate and in what.
Laura Purcell ,I'm Irish too and have just got my first nail tech certificate . Like Tracey says, there are plenty of people out there who don't want to do their own nails, and who appreciate a decent set of nails done by someone who is inspired and dedicated . Nails are becoming as important as hair now , everyone seems to have them. Wishing you all the best Laura 🦋
I'm confused... So it kinda sounds like you have the same thing we do, you just call it something else. .. I mean if you have to have a certain level of training, and paper work to prove it, and you must show that to a board of people before being allowed to work in that industry and charge money.... Then, what's the difference?? Who cares if you call it the Briar Patch? Or Potato sandwich - It's Licencing, under another name... 🥴
Loved this talk! It baffles me that nail techs can be looked down on because they "just do nails" but I've always preferred going to a tech that ONLY does nails. They seem more dedicated to their trade that way. She can do acrylic, gel, nail art, offers new products and knows what's popular styles at that time. The ones doing hair, facials, waxing, makeup, and then nails usually only offer one thing because they can't keep up with the ever changing beauty industry offering ALL those services. And they are impossible to get an appt with. Oh and there are 2 nail schools where I live offering 3 month programs and it's still hard to find a tech taking new clients, so I don't think the DIYers have hurt the industry at all 😁thank u for your content! I love educational videos like this!
This!!! Exactly this!!! I have 3 licenses massage, esthetics and nails. Nails is by far the most technical and time consuming. Also why have nail prices stayed relatively the same since 2010. A set of acrylics in my area were roughly 60 then and maybe 70 now.
💯 agree. I have my first in salon job. 🎉 and my new boss uses a different brand. When i went to educate myself on it I found it very lacking in everything YN has. 😢
Beebs and Trace are in an industry where their peers have the trade show mentality, but they are changing the industry for so many more people and that’s very impressive. Keep it up! The haters are your competitors and theyre scared of yall 😊
I’m about to start school. Just wrapping up the last week of checking out a few more schools closer to my house and in my price range. Hopefully I can begin school in the next couple weeks. I’m ready to get started on a new career doing what I love! Extremely excited!
I’m a licensed hairstylist/salon owner and I do nails as well. I love being a hair artist as well as a nail artist. But I find it very hard to stay relevant and up on the times and trends of both!!
There is an apprenticeship in Europe that can take years depending on what you want to learn. I also feel like my salon is the only one doing hybrid nails and no one wants to try it. Weird.
Nail Techs are one of the most disrespected of them all. We are one of the most sought after though. It costs a tonne of money, never ending training and ongoing self investment, business smarts, and individual ingenuity. Also, we DO need more nail companies like YN’s. You are true leaders in our industry and many others can learn so much from you.
I feel as if nail school and starboard created that divide. We were always told licensed is “better”. We were held to a different standard based on our fear of an inspection. During Covid our credentials didn’t keep us open or “better”. I think it put us on a more even playing field.
This is why I believe in a split of licenses. Every beauty pro should stay in their professional lane. Cosmetology school does not prepare anyone to be a professional esthetician or nail technician. I'm an esthetician and go hard for respecting the qualifications of nail techs. Be specific when you speak of Europe. It's a continent not a country. My original post graduate educators were from England. They have MUCH higher cosmetologist qualifications than the USA (regardless of the state you got your license). We trying to have it both ways. Many in the USA we want high professional wages with little to no education or professional licensure. Hair, skin & nails are professions not a side hustles. If you top pay, be a real professional. If you are a professional, charge what you deserve. TH-cam University is giving some people a false sense of knowledge and professional qualifications.
You guys are the best! Other then gel Polish My salon is exclusive to your products 😊. Reason #1 YN has THE BEST CUSTOMER SERVICE AND SUPPORT! And of course The products lol ❤
In the assisted facilities where I work in va there’s no manicure tables or equipment for pedicures but they want me to do the services and charge the residents!! They don’t want to spend any money on manicuring equipment but they spend on hairstylist equipment!! So I find it crazy!! As a professional nail Technician I do feel we are at the bottom of the list
I agree with the only working with licensed techs. Some will actually sell to non licensed folks but then they’ll only have education on the product open to techs. So we can use your product but you aren’t going to tell us how 🥴. Love young nails
I am a nail tech and have an opposite opinion actually. I started off DIY and then went to school for my license. I think there should be a limited amount/type of product available to non-pros. 1. there is a growing number of people with permanent allergies because they use professional gel-x products on themselves at home because “it’s so easy you don’t even need a nail tech” which is harming the health of people and also making it seem like nail pros are worthless. 2. the hair industry doesn’t let everyone get the nice products and that’s good for them. hair stylists can charge what they want for their formulas on clients because clients can’t achieve that at home in a box. and if you try to get stuff like redken shades online it’s often expired/old you just can’t get those products. if selling to everyone didn’t affect the health of people then fine but everyone is underestimating that these are professional products to be used by professionals. and if that was clearer I think nail techs would be valued more. I think we need stricter regulations for what can be sold to consumers because most companies now will sell to anyone regardless of if it’s good for them or not.
No respect for Nail Techs!! That was something, they forgot to tell me, before I went to school for it. I loved nails, like we all do before we go to school, I had already been wearing nails for years, and had the most respect for my tech. Wasn't till I was working in my 1st salon, that I realized no one respected the nail tech. Okay, no one isn't fair, the estheticians were okay, but the Hair Dressers... Omg!! You know because they did, what, a day, a week, of nails training - they knew we were the idiots of the beauty world. We weren't smart enough to be stylists, so we became nail techs. Estheticians were higher ranked, because they could do more than just nails. They gave facials, and did electrolysis.... I did had the thought, that maybe I was just at a bad salon, but sadly, no... Very rarely did I meet a stylist who had any respect for a nail tech, and when I did, it was because their sister was one or in my case, my aunt was one... Do you know how many times I've been told, that I basically went to clown college?? Having some techs or salons do manicures for $15. Is not helping things either, now they think we are cheap and our work is worthless. They already thought we were stupid, and us charging $15. kinda proves it... If we don't value our own work, and ourselves, it's hard to blame others for not doing so. Undercutting the competition also under cuts the industry, as a whole. There has to be a level, we don't go below... A standard !! I'm happy to see prices are going up and nail techs are getting more recognition, then when I started 20, years ago. And thank you to the celebrity's, who are willing to pay some bucks for the bling, it's helping, but it should be starting and moving up because of us.!! We need to demand the respect and put a price tag on it. Charging peanuts for our hard work, time and skills says were worthless. It's the message your sending, and because we are all grouped together, those peanuts speak for us all... So, everyone Please - charge according to your skill level and for the art. Press On Nails count too!! If the set took 3 hours, then charge for it! Not $15 or $20 because their Press Ons. And, I'll stop ranting... But, if you understand what I was saying, then you understand, I was ranting for us all... lol 😊
I think part of the problem with Pro verses DIY, is Pro went to school, Pro took the time, paid the money, worked hard, trained and practiced enough, so she could pass the exams, in order to be approved by the government, in order to work in her industry. The DIY didn't do that, and is functioning in that same industry. A lot of them, also want the same amount of respect, just cause they like nails too. It is disrespectful to the Pro, who took things seriously, who worked seriously hard to achieve, and is still working hard because she's gotta keep upgrading, and learning, with the changing industry. DIY said I think I'm gonna do this today/ this week, and I'll maybe watch some videos, or watch the trained tech do it, and ask some questions and then I'll give it a try. They are taking clients, and they are out there teaching. Posting videos on, how too, telling others, of I can do it - so can you... So more are.... It's the blind leading the blind. When you dont know your dangerous, when you know a little bit, your extremely dangerous, because you have the confidence and mind set, that you do know. So you do not, see the harm it what your doing, what damages you can cause. Permanent ones, that last a lifetime and have serious consequences, and its the Pro tech, and the industry who take the blame for it. How many have heard someone say "Artificial Nails, ruined my nails" Or it was "Acrylic ruined my nails" Why do they believe this? Say this in front of Greg - watch him get pissed... What is Greg's reply? No, sweetie, it wasn't the enhancements or the Acrylic that did it, it was the moron doing your nails... So, you wonder why Professional Nail companies, do want their products in the hands of morons...?? DIYers also have the complaint that the beauty supply companies won't train them... Now, a lot of beauty supply companies, cannot legally train you. They can offer advance education, to already licensed nail tech, but not to DIYers, because the government said so. Government wants you to have your base education 1st (the license). So you cannot put the blame of the beauty supply companies, they are not stopping you from getting an education or being snobbish - they are following the rules. Using the excuse I cannot afford to go to school, is not acceptable. It's sad, and heart breaking, but not a valid excuse. Going to Harvard Medical School is expensive and only a small few can actually do it, but just because you can't afford it, doesn't mean you can practice medicine anyways... After a few TH-cam videos that is... School is very expensive, too expensive and I've never agreed with it. It should be free, to anyone who wants to learn, only makes us stronger as a nation. But that is another fight, in another channel. For here and today, the rules say, you need a license, so you need a license.
Not only is it extremely difficult to get good at nails, art, customer service, BUT the cost to get started in the nail industry is expensive. Where I live a full set is 45$ to 60$ for a set.... It's extremely hard to do this job when all your money goes to GOOD product.. I wish I could charge more, but no one would pay more then 60$ and that's if your in the top nail artists. But yeah I've asked people if they have to go without lashes or nails, they all say they would skip the nails. Sad
The problem is, every 16 year old child is now doing nails without a license and charging $20 for a set, which is totally illegal, so because of that, the Professionals who have gone to school, paid their dues, continuing education, license fees etc... are not looked up to as Professionals since teenagers are doing nails without the license and for much cheaper!
@@liannes_life3007 these are not my clients. These are teenagers advertising on marketplace that they do nails for $20 with no license, no schooling, and do it at their house.
In Australia there is no regulation BUT there needs to be. Here we refer to them as Non Standard Salons and I'm sorry but there is a huge difference between Certified and Qualified. I did my own nails for 5 years before doing my "Nail School" Cert III and I learnt so much more than just nails. Legal & ethical etc. Here we have salons in malls where 5 people do the nails the smell is disgusting and it's left to the Certified Techs to clean up the mess. I totally back the companies that ask for that piece of paper because I wouldn't want my product advertised by an unproffesional that makes it look bad. So as much as I love you guys we'll have to agree to disagree ;)
Lol I won’t pay that for lashes but I would for nails, I won’t pay that for a hair cut but I would for nails. But I’m a nail tech that loves nails, I love makeup and hair too but passion is skin and makeup. I don’t love hair cutting or coloring , I’m more of a hair bender soul. Only licensed in nails and certified in massage.
This could NOT be truerrrrrr you guys are the only ones in the game doing this!!!! Where's everybody else??? PS no gun licenses but YOU BETTER GET A NAIL TECH LICENSE 🙄 Okay america.....
The US is the only country that requires a nail tech to have a license. In addition, every state has different requirements for licensure, so there isn't a way to fully regulate who purchases any product based on simply having a license. The professional nail technician always has and always will be a priority to us, but we were all unlicensed nail enthusiasts at one time.
Parts of Canada requires a License too. Nova Scotia requires one, and Alberta does not. Its a province by province thing here. Try moving from one province to another... and continue to work in your field.... Nothing but a damm headache!! 🥴
@@youngnailsinc You say each state has different requirements to get licensed . I do not understand your reply to him. How can't it be regulated? What does it matter, what the state requires, your not the one handing out the state licenses, all it would matter is if the person got theirs, in their state.... Who cares what Susie had to do in Miami, as long as she did it. She shows paper saying she did it, thats all that matters. So what that Becky had to do different things in L.A, as long as Becky did them... So I do not understand the answer you gave, why can't you keep track? I am not agreeing or disagreeing, either way, I don't understand the reply. Would be totally easy to say, must have paper to buy if you live in this Country. If you live in this Country, no papers required.
Makartt has good products BUT their customer service is a a big big joke, so I don't buy from then any more and wont recommend them either! love [YN] 🥰
I'm a licensed tech of 2 years now thanks to "The Nail Hub" tutorials on TH-cam (all gel services). 15 years prior, I used acrylic on myself but stopped due to ventilation issues. Had the industry not advanced, I would still be stuck with minimal art and natural nail services only. Had it not been for TH-cam (folks like you two), I would have never considered getting licensed because of the stigma Tracy described. Even in 2021, I got "looks" from family about doing nails. It's a weekend thing (Front-End Developer Mon-Fri) at a salon (commission) but I love it. In addition to the computer science education I have, I am also an art major (2 degrees). I cannot tell you how much I have to correct people who think art cannot help you as an adult in a career and how anyone can be "right brain" and "left brain" because we have both. 😏 It's old and untrue terminology that's holds everyone back at some level. Also - I understand that nail products need to be treated with respect (proper use & sanitation education) but the way this information and pro products are kept from the public is the reason all the more dangerous nail products end up in the Amazon carts of unsuspecting and uneducated public to later develope an allergy to....
Did you try polygel or hybrid nails? I really like them. No odor. I love them. I have lung problems acrylic bothers me.
@@jennifer4196 I have, but I'm faster at building a nail with gel, so I prefer it for most of what I do. Poly/hybrid is great for repairs when you need to replace a corner or sidewall because gels "round off" too much and a form is best placed with the free-edge removed, so it fits neatly into my repair service.
I watched YN way, way, way back in the day...I think number 1 not to was substances. Luv, but the abuse was big back in the day, huh
When I attended nail school I went at night and held a full time job during the day. When my workday ended, I would change into the scrubs we were required to wear in class and then leave the building. My boss at the time knew I was in nail school, saw me in my scrubs and said to me, “you have to wear all of that to learn to paint nails?” I bid her a good day and went on my way.
I'm a nail tech in Europe and it drives me nuts to see ppl commenting "I pay €20 for this back home" ok? and??? different economy + your nail tech back home 100% undercharges too! damn, everyone forgets that inflation hits us too and that nails aren't a necessity but a LUXURY. A luxury that requires much skills and investing in training on our part. I can't wait to raise my prices and see other nail techs here do the same. I wanna see nail techs charge their worth and feel good and NOT guilty about it. I want clients and other beauty professionals to respect us. It's the bare minimum and baffles me how people are already actively fighting on it.
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I was over at a “friend’s” house for dinner last week. I mentioned that I was wrapping up my last month of school and what all I was studying. She made a comment like, “it’s just nails. It’s not like it’s an actual art. Nobody wants to pay for that Instagram bs. I hate it when nail techs call themselves artist. It’s so dumb.” I was speechless.
We’re sorry you had to deal with that. People often underestimate the hard work that goes into jobs if they don’t know everything they goes into it. Don’t let them stop you for reaching your goals🩷
Here in Oklahoma legislators are considering stopping the license of cosmetologist/nail techs. I feel this is wrong in so many ways. We're working with chemicals and safety needs to be maintained. 😞☠️❤️💅🏻
Tracey, you are so right. I can do a pedicure myself, as I am licensed, but it's so nice to get that done and have my own chill time.
It’s also this thing where ppl will willingly go to a hairstylist that is not licensed but has skill and will pay $300-$500 for a service with no complaints, getting it done in an unprofessional setting.. it’s like ohh she does hair, I’m there! Oh she does nails, she charges how much? Oh no nails are nothing they don’t deserve that amount for some nails 🙄
It’s because people/society put more emphasis on having your hair done/looking good vs. nails. Also with hair the results whether cut or color are semi-permanent until it grows out, so people are more willing to pay to avoid mistakes. With nails if you don’t like a set you could remove it/get it fixed rather easily.
Not saying the mindset is right but that’s what I see from laypeople with services
I had a similar conversation recently. I come from an education background and people were always very impressed when I told them I was a math tutor, but now I'm sort of reluctant to tell people I'm a nail tech because you can see them trying to school their facial expression. They kind of just go "oh! Ok..." and it's like they immediately assume I'm unintelligent or I'm in a career that is subpar. When the reverse is true. I'm far more successful now, plus I'm passing skills on to others.
I am so thankful that an enthusiast like myself has a place to buy quality products, from a company that stands behind them. I also appreciate that you guys don't look down on us. When I think about the junk I was using before I found you guys 😳
Finding you on amazon is the exact reason I started to follow your channel on youtube! It's such a great marketing tool apart from also providing customers instant access to your products!
AMEN, Habib and Tracey! That's why you guys are my go-to for relevant information.
Thank you for explaining all of this. I think I'm just following great ppl & accounts bc I never hear anyone down talking nails but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen and I'm sorry that it does. I've been learning nails for 4-ish years now via the greats of TH-cam University and I still drop my jaw at how y'all can do a full set so quickly. Thinking about a salon environment and how quickly and precisely ppl are just blows my mind. Ppl deserve to be paid fairly!
I am a Licensed Cosmetologist who chooses to do Nails Only. Why? I love it. But, I won't accept anyone attempting to "talk down" at me. Doing Nails is almost esoteric. I feel elated, much more creatively accomplished. Hair is creative, but Nails is Art!
Same here. I 1000% do not love hair or skin like I love nails.
Nails are my passion, and I will continue charging my worth no matter what I'm doing!
As a disabled veteran I have alot of trouble going to the nail salon, so learning to do it on my own for myself has been a blessing so thank you🥰
I want to thank me for being me and being amazing and you all are so welcome!!!
This is a very good watch and brings up a lot of interesting points! And honestly no matter how many times people go to a beauty supply shop to get their own hair color that are unlicensed 90% of the time they will get tired of it and go back to a professional 🤷🏻♀️ I feel if there is proper education on products that are available I don’t feel a threat to loosing any clients. Bc I know my people are with me to chill and have an experience
I love this!
Particularly the Restaurant reference.
I'm a licensed/qualified tech in Australia. (We do need qualifications to charge for our services or work in the industry, but probably not as regulated as it is in U.S) What I find is that when I'm educating or making suggestions to my clients, they nearly always say, "You're the professional, whatever you think is best" .
It's great to be acknowledged as a professional and that's why there's always going to be work for me in my business setting.
I agree that anyone who loves nails should be able to have a go.
Art enthusiasts, garden enthusiasts, jewellery enthusiasts etc all get access to what they need, to have a red hot go at something they want to try.
Thoroughly enjoyed this Biz Talk ❤
I was literally talking about this earlier this morning and honestly this is the VERY reason I stopped having the motivation to do nails it like they don’t respect us or our skill and especially when you aren’t licensed other techs stick their nose up at you when all the while you do better quality nails then they do..
Love this chat! A couple of months ago a company I really like announced they were finally opening up their products to nail enthusiast (mind you, just a couple of things) and all professional nail techs freaked out! I am a nail enthusiast who is going to nail school to get licensed, and couldn’t have done without access to professional products such as YoungNails. It’s a pity that they see everyone as competition, instead of being happy that more people are interested in their craft. I just started following a bunch of nail techs in the area to see what they do and what is offered/wanted in the area. But the main reason is to support them!
May I ask what company it was that is opening some of their products up to enthusiasts? I'm one myself and like trying new product 😊
@@Tarasaurus13 I don't know if this is what the original poster was talking about but you might check out Light Elegance via The Nail Hub's TH-cam channel. I'm in that course and it is amazing and so thorough. There is a testing component to it to check your knowledge before you can purchase. You do the course (on your own time or live via TH-cam) and at the end get certified to purchase products. It's a pilot program right now and people have been really rude to her and them so I stay telling ppl how good it really is. You'll want to look for the video called "Big Announcement".
It’s Light Elegance. But in order to access their P+ Gel Polish line, you have to take some (paid) courses via The Nail Hub.
@@Tarasaurus13 It was Light Elegance.
I am sorry I do know the TH-camr's name, but she made an announcement a couple months back that she was partnering with them. She'll be doing some sort of education training classes via online, to my understanding you must register with her and take the classes (for a fee of course) and then you can buy the Light Elegance Products.
I hope that helps 😊
Hi from Argentina 🇦🇷. I'm totally agree with you, I think that the restaurant example it's really perfect. Here we have some people that made "soft gel" DIY and I don't feel that they are my competitors 💁🏻♀️. Thank you a lot!!! I follow you since 2009 when I start my way in the nails industry 😍🥰 The "Greg corner" with his "Tips & Tricks' helping me more than you can even imagine.
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Thank you so much guys!! I LEARN A LOT EVERY DAY BECAUSE OF YOU AND YOUR WONDERFUL FORMS OF EDUCATING US!! I started as a nail enthusiast and did my research before, to see if Nails were for me. I was listening to your Biz Talk during my previous work every day until I finished all the episodes. Then I watched some You Tube videos with MORE TIPS, TRICKS AND REAL NAIL PROBLEM SOLUTIONS DOES AND DONTS, that put me on another level and was the last push that I needed to go to school and get my license ☺️ now I’m a Licensed Nail Tech…YOU GUYS ARE AMAZING LETTING ANYBODY have access to your stunning products and educating us about it🥰🥰🥰
I dye my own hair and do my own nail! Thanks for making the best products available to me!❣
It’s so weird that nails are look down on. In my opinion it’s one of the most difficult because people are constantly looking at there nails they notice everything even the things that aren’t there sometimes 🤣😩.
The other services you need to physically get up and look. If you can do nails that other stuff is a breeze.
Man it's so great to hear professionals talk about this after feeling like I've been yelling this stuff into a void for years, lol. WE ARE ALL NAIL ENTHUSIASTS! I THOUGHT THAT WAS THE POINT LMAO
It’s easier and quicker to get a driving license or a gun in the states than a nail license and I know which of those three things can do the most damage to people. The nail license is probably several times more expensive as well and needs more renewal!
Hi from Australia. We need more people like you guys!
I've had a snobby nail tech who charged me for gel polish removal, when I was getting a FILL. Gel polish has to be removed during a fill it's not an option.
I was just dismissed BC I'm not a tech. It's still wrong to charge for removals if a fill service is being performed. My point is they were ridiculous.
I would love to see a trio video of habib , Tracey and Greg in a Q+A !
An educated consumer is the best client to have. They will appreciate what you do and your products. They will respect your prices, and understand the why you charge what you charge.
I was planning on going to nail school but know one in my area is hiring….also nail school is very expensive!! I actually graduated the police academy in 2008 and that was more then a thousand dollar less. They do not offer student loans for nail school in my area. One day I hope to own my own salon. I follow you guys to learn!! Thank you!!
Boss Beeb & Chef Tracey always coming in with the exact topic of biz talk that I need at that moment 🏆🙌🔥
I'm an Irish nail tech with my first day renting a station in a local salon this Tuesday (so nervous and excited all at once). I've been an enthusiast for years, decided to quit my job and become a qualified nail tech. You're right, we don't have licensing like the States. We have insurance as the standardized level of clearance to work on anyone and you will only be insured for certificates accredited by the AIT/ABT who are the beauty therapy education board for all cosmetic industry sectors. They decided who can educate and in what.
Congratulations!
Laura Purcell ,I'm Irish too and have just got my first nail tech certificate . Like Tracey says, there are plenty of people out there who don't want to do their own nails, and who appreciate a decent set of nails done by someone who is inspired and dedicated . Nails are becoming as important as hair now , everyone seems to have them. Wishing you all the best Laura 🦋
I'm confused... So it kinda sounds like you have the same thing we do, you just call it something else. ..
I mean if you have to have a certain level of training, and paper work to prove it, and you must show that to a board of people before being allowed to work in that industry and charge money.... Then, what's the difference??
Who cares if you call it the Briar Patch? Or Potato sandwich -
It's Licencing, under another name...
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Loved this talk! It baffles me that nail techs can be looked down on because they "just do nails" but I've always preferred going to a tech that ONLY does nails. They seem more dedicated to their trade that way. She can do acrylic, gel, nail art, offers new products and knows what's popular styles at that time. The ones doing hair, facials, waxing, makeup, and then nails usually only offer one thing because they can't keep up with the ever changing beauty industry offering ALL those services. And they are impossible to get an appt with. Oh and there are 2 nail schools where I live offering 3 month programs and it's still hard to find a tech taking new clients, so I don't think the DIYers have hurt the industry at all 😁thank u for your content! I love educational videos like this!
This!!! Exactly this!!! I have 3 licenses massage, esthetics and nails. Nails is by far the most technical and time consuming. Also why have nail prices stayed relatively the same since 2010. A set of acrylics in my area were roughly 60 then and maybe 70 now.
💯 agree. I have my first in salon job. 🎉 and my new boss uses a different brand. When i went to educate myself on it I found it very lacking in everything YN has. 😢
So thats when you convince them to switch to a superior brand. I've done that so many times... lol
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Beebs and Trace are in an industry where their peers have the trade show mentality, but they are changing the industry for so many more people and that’s very impressive. Keep it up! The haters are your competitors and theyre scared of yall 😊
I’m about to start school. Just wrapping up the last week of checking out a few more schools closer to my house and in my price range. Hopefully I can begin school in the next couple weeks. I’m ready to get started on a new career doing what I love! Extremely excited!
I’m a licensed hairstylist/salon owner and I do nails as well. I love being a hair artist as well as a nail artist. But I find it very hard to stay relevant and up on the times and trends of both!!
You guys are awesome keep up the great work!! ❤
Thank you so much for teaching us everything you know!! 🤩🤩
Thank you for this video!
This!!!!! The DIY’er is not a tech’s customer! This is such an important topic!
So true
There is an apprenticeship in Europe that can take years depending on what you want to learn. I also feel like my salon is the only one doing hybrid nails and no one wants to try it. Weird.
Your doing great customer service
So true👏👏
Very true!
Nail Techs are one of the most disrespected of them all. We are one of the most sought after though.
It costs a tonne of money, never ending training and ongoing self investment, business smarts, and individual ingenuity.
Also, we DO need more nail companies like YN’s. You are true leaders in our industry and many others can learn so much from you.
I feel as if nail school and starboard created that divide. We were always told licensed is “better”. We were held to a different standard based on our fear of an inspection. During Covid our credentials didn’t keep us open or “better”. I think it put us on a more even playing field.
This is why I believe in a split of licenses. Every beauty pro should stay in their professional lane. Cosmetology school does not prepare anyone to be a professional esthetician or nail technician. I'm an esthetician and go hard for respecting the qualifications of nail techs.
Be specific when you speak of Europe. It's a continent not a country. My original post graduate educators were from England. They have MUCH higher cosmetologist qualifications than the USA (regardless of the state you got your license). We trying to have it both ways. Many in the USA we want high professional wages with little to no education or professional licensure. Hair, skin & nails are professions not a side hustles. If you top pay, be a real professional. If you are a professional, charge what you deserve. TH-cam University is giving some people a false sense of knowledge and professional qualifications.
Thank you for the feedback, we will let the team know.
Great talk.
You guys are the best! Other then gel Polish My salon is exclusive to your products 😊. Reason #1 YN has THE BEST CUSTOMER SERVICE AND SUPPORT! And of course The products lol ❤
In the assisted facilities where I work in va there’s no manicure tables or equipment for pedicures but they want me to do the services and charge the residents!! They don’t want to spend any money on manicuring equipment but they spend on hairstylist equipment!! So I find it crazy!! As a professional nail Technician I do feel we are at the bottom of the list
That is so real even when I was n school we didn’t even have a teacher I self taught at school 🤦🏽♀️
I agree with the only working with licensed techs. Some will actually sell to non licensed folks but then they’ll only have education on the product open to techs. So we can use your product but you aren’t going to tell us how 🥴. Love young nails
We need more mail school only all nail’s including art
I am a nail tech and have an opposite opinion actually. I started off DIY and then went to school for my license. I think there should be a limited amount/type of product available to non-pros. 1. there is a growing number of people with permanent allergies because they use professional gel-x products on themselves at home because “it’s so easy you don’t even need a nail tech” which is harming the health of people and also making it seem like nail pros are worthless. 2. the hair industry doesn’t let everyone get the nice products and that’s good for them. hair stylists can charge what they want for their formulas on clients because clients can’t achieve that at home in a box. and if you try to get stuff like redken shades online it’s often expired/old you just can’t get those products. if selling to everyone didn’t affect the health of people then fine but everyone is underestimating that these are professional products to be used by professionals. and if that was clearer I think nail techs would be valued more. I think we need stricter regulations for what can be sold to consumers because most companies now will sell to anyone regardless of if it’s good for them or not.
Thank you for the feedback, we will let the team know.
No respect for Nail Techs!!
That was something, they forgot to tell me, before I went to school for it. I loved nails, like we all do before we go to school, I had already been wearing nails for years, and had the most respect for my tech. Wasn't till I was working in my 1st salon, that I realized no one respected the nail tech. Okay, no one isn't fair, the estheticians were okay, but the Hair Dressers... Omg!!
You know because they did, what, a day, a week, of nails training - they knew we were the idiots of the beauty world. We weren't smart enough to be stylists, so we became nail techs. Estheticians were higher ranked, because they could do more than just nails. They gave facials, and did electrolysis....
I did had the thought, that maybe I was just at a bad salon, but sadly, no...
Very rarely did I meet a stylist who had any respect for a nail tech, and when I did, it was because their sister was one or in my case, my aunt was one...
Do you know how many times I've been told, that I basically went to clown college??
Having some techs or salons do manicures for $15. Is not helping things either, now they think we are cheap and our work is worthless. They already thought we were stupid, and us charging $15. kinda proves it...
If we don't value our own work, and ourselves, it's hard to blame others for not doing so.
Undercutting the competition also under cuts the industry, as a whole.
There has to be a level, we don't go below... A standard !!
I'm happy to see prices are going up and nail techs are getting more recognition, then when I started 20, years ago. And thank you to the celebrity's, who are willing to pay some bucks for the bling, it's helping, but it should be starting and moving up because of us.!!
We need to demand the respect and put a price tag on it. Charging peanuts for our hard work, time and skills says were worthless. It's the message your sending, and because we are all grouped together, those peanuts speak for us all...
So, everyone Please - charge according to your skill level and for the art. Press On Nails count too!! If the set took 3 hours, then charge for it! Not $15 or $20 because their Press Ons.
And, I'll stop ranting...
But, if you understand what I was saying, then you understand, I was ranting for us all... lol
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Nail industry needs to get with the program 2023
I think part of the problem with Pro verses DIY, is Pro went to school, Pro took the time, paid the money, worked hard, trained and practiced enough, so she could pass the exams, in order to be approved by the government, in order to work in her industry.
The DIY didn't do that, and is functioning in that same industry. A lot of them, also want the same amount of respect, just cause they like nails too.
It is disrespectful to the Pro, who took things seriously, who worked seriously hard to achieve, and is still working hard because she's gotta keep upgrading, and learning, with the changing industry.
DIY said I think I'm gonna do this today/ this week, and I'll maybe watch some videos, or watch the trained tech do it, and ask some questions and then I'll give it a try. They are taking clients, and they are out there teaching. Posting videos on, how too, telling others, of I can do it - so can you...
So more are....
It's the blind leading the blind.
When you dont know your dangerous, when you know a little bit, your extremely dangerous, because you have the confidence and mind set, that you do know. So you do not, see the harm it what your doing, what damages you can cause. Permanent ones, that last a lifetime and have serious consequences, and its the Pro tech, and the industry who take the blame for it.
How many have heard someone say "Artificial Nails, ruined my nails"
Or it was "Acrylic ruined my nails"
Why do they believe this?
Say this in front of Greg - watch him get pissed...
What is Greg's reply?
No, sweetie, it wasn't the enhancements or the Acrylic that did it, it was the moron doing your nails...
So, you wonder why Professional Nail companies, do want their products in the hands of morons...??
DIYers also have the complaint that the beauty supply companies won't train them...
Now, a lot of beauty supply companies, cannot legally train you. They can offer advance education, to already licensed nail tech, but not to DIYers, because the government said so.
Government wants you to have your base education 1st (the license).
So you cannot put the blame of the beauty supply companies, they are not stopping you from getting an education or being snobbish - they are following the rules.
Using the excuse I cannot afford to go to school, is not acceptable. It's sad, and heart breaking, but not a valid excuse.
Going to Harvard Medical School is expensive and only a small few can actually do it, but just because you can't afford it, doesn't mean you can practice medicine anyways... After a few TH-cam videos that is...
School is very expensive, too expensive and I've never agreed with it. It should be free, to anyone who wants to learn, only makes us stronger as a nation.
But that is another fight, in another channel.
For here and today, the rules say, you need a license, so you need a license.
Thank you for the feedback, we will let the team know.
If anything the enthusiasts have made us up our game and prices .
Not only is it extremely difficult to get good at nails, art, customer service, BUT the cost to get started in the nail industry is expensive. Where I live a full set is 45$ to 60$ for a set.... It's extremely hard to do this job when all your money goes to GOOD product.. I wish I could charge more, but no one would pay more then 60$ and that's if your in the top nail artists. But yeah I've asked people if they have to go without lashes or nails, they all say they would skip the nails. Sad
The problem is, every 16 year old child is now doing nails without a license and charging $20 for a set, which is totally illegal, so because of that, the Professionals who have gone to school, paid their dues, continuing education, license fees etc...
are not looked up to as Professionals since teenagers are doing nails without the license and for much cheaper!
Thank you for the feedback, we will let the team know.
Then stop looking for teenage clientele lol look for older clients.
@@liannes_life3007 these are not my clients. These are teenagers advertising on marketplace that they do nails for $20 with no license, no schooling, and do it at their house.
All the salons I went to can't build a nail I'm in Pennsylvania
In Australia there is no regulation BUT there needs to be. Here we refer to them as Non Standard Salons and I'm sorry but there is a huge difference between Certified and Qualified. I did my own nails for 5 years before doing my "Nail School" Cert III and I learnt so much more than just nails. Legal & ethical etc. Here we have salons in malls where 5 people do the nails the smell is disgusting and it's left to the Certified Techs to clean up the mess. I totally back the companies that ask for that piece of paper because I wouldn't want my product advertised by an unproffesional that makes it look bad. So as much as I love you guys we'll have to agree to disagree ;)
As a hobbyist in Germany: the companies that don't want to deal with DIYers just brand themselves as wholesale only so DIYers can't purchase there
Please, explain about exhaust situation
Can you be a bit more specific about your question please?
Lol I won’t pay that for lashes but I would for nails, I won’t pay that for a hair cut but I would for nails. But I’m a nail tech that loves nails, I love makeup and hair too but passion is skin and makeup. I don’t love hair cutting or coloring , I’m more of a hair bender soul. Only licensed in nails and certified in massage.
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This could NOT be truerrrrrr you guys are the only ones in the game doing this!!!! Where's everybody else??? PS no gun licenses but YOU BETTER GET A NAIL TECH LICENSE 🙄 Okay america.....
You guys selling products to unlicensed people are the real problem; you don’t even know if they can provide a good job.
The US is the only country that requires a nail tech to have a license. In addition, every state has different requirements for licensure, so there isn't a way to fully regulate who purchases any product based on simply having a license. The professional nail technician always has and always will be a priority to us, but we were all unlicensed nail enthusiasts at one time.
Parts of Canada requires a License too. Nova Scotia requires one, and Alberta does not. Its a province by province thing here.
Try moving from one province to another... and continue to work in your field.... Nothing but a damm headache!!
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@@youngnailsinc You say each state has different requirements to get licensed .
I do not understand your reply to him. How can't it be regulated? What does it matter, what the state requires, your not the one handing out the state licenses, all it would matter is if the person got theirs, in their state....
Who cares what Susie had to do in Miami, as long as she did it. She shows paper saying she did it, thats all that matters. So what that Becky had to do different things in L.A, as long as Becky did them...
So I do not understand the answer you gave, why can't you keep track?
I am not agreeing or disagreeing, either way, I don't understand the reply.
Would be totally easy to say, must have paper to buy if you live in this Country.
If you live in this Country, no papers required.
You guys rock! Thank you for all you do for our industry and artist. 🫶🏼
Makartt has good products BUT their customer service is a a big big joke, so I don't buy from then any more and wont recommend them either! love [YN] 🥰
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