(Do this modification at your own risk.) You can find the links on eBay or Amazon. While you're here hit that subscribe button and notification bell. It's absolutely free and it helps our channel a ton. Click the link to see how this mod helped. th-cam.com/video/ENEf4Dsiyck/w-d-xo.html
It has improved the bike in lots of ways. My daughter went motocamping with us and I could definitely tell the difference. Thanks and thanks for watching. 👊
Hey guys, great to see other channels using the V-Strom off-road! The title is a little deceptive, but not intentionally I'm sure. 👍 To be a true "lift" you'll want to raise the front the same amount as the rear. To do this would require lengthening your front forks. So what is actually happening? You are indeed performing a lift at the rear of the bike. In the front however, you are gaining the "lift" by setting proper suspension sag (ideally 1/3rd total suspension travel with rider and gear). The reason this is so effective is because of how damn cheap and soft that front suspension is from factory. Care must be taken however, as improperly setting suspension sag can result in modified and even dangerous unbalancing of the entire bike. End result: More ground clearance and a better suspension feel overall. In addition you'll have slightly modified riding characteristics (faster turn in, slightly twitchy, higher center of gravity). I did something similar a number of years ago (before I understood suspensions) and had the exact same belief as you guys so no harm done. :) I'm going to link a very short video below so that your viewers can see the side by side difference :)
Yeah I understand how it works and know it's not a true lift. I only added a small amount more of preload and it really didn't affect the bikes handling. I pin a comment saying do this mod at your own risk. To some it might be worth it to others not so much. We mainly put these kinds of videos out to show our progress in how we mod our own stuff to ride them the way we do. I want to do more with the suspension but don't really want to spend that type of money on the old of a bike. The title was meant to be deceptive cause it sort of a lift and I think most people that watch our channel and the way we are we'll get it. Thanks for watching and commenting. We definitely appreciate it and the feedback.
You got that right. I want the 2 inch fork extenders and 2 inch lift links but this made a huge improvement and without really any negative side effects.
Finally got around to doing the forks, I used steel tube as I already had some and made them 130 mm. Lots of speed humps down my road, made a big difference. It did have a lot of sagg beforehand. Cheers guys.
Cool. I would like to add those at some point. I can't remember the company name right now but they make some 2 inch fork extenders and I really want to go that route I just don't want to spend the money just yet. This little bit made a big difference and I'm pretty happy with it for now. Thanks for watching and commenting. We really appreciate it 👊
@@rickreasoner8664 his bike is definitely cool but I don't think I want to go that far with it. He has a lot of fabrication skills that we don't have 😂.
I missread the title and was wondering how the heck you were gonna lift the strom off the ground using a pvc pipe as leverage! Anyway looks like a good mod to me!
😂 like Frank said I would have to fill it with concrete to lift the pig up off the ground. It's an easy mod that actually made a difference. Thanks for watching.
Looks like an inexpensive and effective mod to me. No criticism at this time! I imagine for a tall guy like you it's going to be more comfortable when you out tour foot down at light too! - Frank
Hey TBG! Thanks so much for this video. I've always wanted to get this done, though I wanted to get your take. I can't say I've done a ton of off road yet but I'd like to and I've always felt like I could have the bike a bit higher and still have my feet flat on the ground. Would you recommend this to the average rider getting into camping/ off road? If so, could you also point to the links you've used? I find some on amazon but I want to make sure I get appropriate links. Were yours aluminum? Thanks so much for your time, I've learned a lot for your videos. Take care and ride safe!
No problem. The link should be in the description if not I'll try to find it for you. The links were aluminum. I appreciate you watching and I'm happy to hear that the videos have helped. 👊
Yep the suspension definitely needs a real engineer to redesign the functionality. I think the kid who drew up the original plan wasn't a real motoboy.... good job, you backyard fixit guy. Saved me the guess work. Back yard fabricating /engineer grumble grumble.😆
I didn't notice any difference in how the bike handled on or off road. The extra ground clearance was a big improvement and I'm about to do a lift on my 1000 because I miss not having that extra clearance.
@@Bok2022st it serves just as a spacer and given the fact that it's not something with great friction inside the tube & the fork oil temperature is not getting that high - it works. However, the main question is if this is just a lift of the suspension or increasing the suspension travel. In this case I believe that it's only the lift and the proper way to be done would be to extend the internal rod of the cartridge with cutting, welding, etc.
@@lyubengeorgiev1751 it just doesn't seem safe to be using PVC pipe instead of mould steel tube I did a conversion of my 650 DL Suzuki V-Strom are simply swapped over the internals I took them from a thousand cc Suzuki vistron they are much better progressive Springs it is a simple swap apart from the spacer which I made out of steel tube progressive suspension is better especially if you're loading up the V-Strom anyway brother you haven't got the bike anymore I believe not sure about that but it was an interesting video to watch cheers man ride safe
@@Bok2022st a friend of mine did exactly the same like you - swapped the internals from the 1000 and made metal spacers. He is really happy with the conversion and using the bike mostly with his wife, including off-road and long trips with luggage. I was thinking to go the same way but the 1000 for parts are not so often seen in my area. Another option is using after market cartridges from Italian brands like Andreani or Matris. However the main thing is that no matter which of the two ways I choose it’s not going to make the suspension longer, nor the ground clearance.
@@TheBeardedGrump if you want to do it properly use the progressive suspension Springs out of 1000cc put them into a650 you only have to change the spaces and don't use PVC pipe that's so crazy find my way it's awesome it works very well and completely safe with progressive front suspension which is not on the 650
@@TheBeardedGrump another company that's drowning nice bike but trust me they are as a company brand they are sinking be aware before it's too late sell it first hand advice my friend
(Do this modification at your own risk.) You can find the links on eBay or Amazon. While you're here hit that subscribe button and notification bell. It's absolutely free and it helps our channel a ton. Click the link to see how this mod helped.
th-cam.com/video/ENEf4Dsiyck/w-d-xo.html
I'm about five nine pushing about 63 years old and I'd like to have mine about two and a half shorter than taller
Did this with my dl650 and it made the world of difference on that bike, espesially with a pillion on the back. Good work sir🇳🇴☕
It has improved the bike in lots of ways. My daughter went motocamping with us and I could definitely tell the difference. Thanks and thanks for watching. 👊
Excellent mod! Cheap and effective! Great video Greg!
Cheers!
Thanks. It has improved the bike off road capabilities so much. Made a great bike even better. Thanks again for watching and commenting 👊
Hey guys, great to see other channels using the V-Strom off-road! The title is a little deceptive, but not intentionally I'm sure. 👍 To be a true "lift" you'll want to raise the front the same amount as the rear. To do this would require lengthening your front forks.
So what is actually happening?
You are indeed performing a lift at the rear of the bike. In the front however, you are gaining the "lift" by setting proper suspension sag (ideally 1/3rd total suspension travel with rider and gear). The reason this is so effective is because of how damn cheap and soft that front suspension is from factory. Care must be taken however, as improperly setting suspension sag can result in modified and even dangerous unbalancing of the entire bike.
End result: More ground clearance and a better suspension feel overall. In addition you'll have slightly modified riding characteristics (faster turn in, slightly twitchy, higher center of gravity).
I did something similar a number of years ago (before I understood suspensions) and had the exact same belief as you guys so no harm done. :)
I'm going to link a very short video below so that your viewers can see the side by side difference :)
th-cam.com/video/oY4W5Gp9_ZE/w-d-xo.html
Yeah I understand how it works and know it's not a true lift. I only added a small amount more of preload and it really didn't affect the bikes handling. I pin a comment saying do this mod at your own risk. To some it might be worth it to others not so much. We mainly put these kinds of videos out to show our progress in how we mod our own stuff to ride them the way we do. I want to do more with the suspension but don't really want to spend that type of money on the old of a bike. The title was meant to be deceptive cause it sort of a lift and I think most people that watch our channel and the way we are we'll get it. Thanks for watching and commenting. We definitely appreciate it and the feedback.
@@TheBeardedGrump No criticism intended! Just an FYI for viewers :) Keep on riding the V-Strom hard guys!
Kind regards from Canada!
@@RaggedRoadsMoto it's all good 👊. We always welcome helpful comments and input. So thanks for sharing.
Do you still recommend the Cogent DDCs you put in?
That little bit extra clearance makes a big difference.
You got that right. I want the 2 inch fork extenders and 2 inch lift links but this made a huge improvement and without really any negative side effects.
Very cool and straight forward.
Thanks. It was really easy. A lot easier than we thought it would be.
Finally got around to doing the forks, I used steel tube as I already had some and made them 130 mm. Lots of speed humps down my road, made a big difference. It did have a lot of sagg beforehand. Cheers guys.
Awesome. Mine has been a whole lot better since I did this. Glad it worked out for you too.
I did the same thing to my ‘07 VStrom except I added Ricor Intiminators to the forks. Made a much plusher ride.
Cool. I would like to add those at some point. I can't remember the company name right now but they make some 2 inch fork extenders and I really want to go that route I just don't want to spend the money just yet. This little bit made a big difference and I'm pretty happy with it for now. Thanks for watching and commenting. We really appreciate it 👊
Ah, you’re headed toward what Ian , at Oz ADV, did with his stripped down version.
@@rickreasoner8664 his bike is definitely cool but I don't think I want to go that far with it. He has a lot of fabrication skills that we don't have 😂.
I missread the title and was wondering how the heck you were gonna lift the strom off the ground using a pvc pipe as leverage! Anyway looks like a good mod to me!
😂 like Frank said I would have to fill it with concrete to lift the pig up off the ground. It's an easy mod that actually made a difference. Thanks for watching.
Looks like an inexpensive and effective mod to me. No criticism at this time! I imagine for a tall guy like you it's going to be more comfortable when you out tour foot down at light too! - Frank
It might not be the right way but it's The Bearded Grump way 😂. It works too so that's all that matters to me 😁
Genial idea,podrías decirme diámetro y longitud del Pvc,no hablo ingles y no me quedó claro,gracias ✌️
1 inch diameter PVC and we cut them a 1/2 inch longer than the stock spacer. Thanks for watching. I really appreciate it 👊
Guys I reckon these mods would have helped my bike heaps as you could see in my last video climbing mount Cole.cheers.
They are pretty capable bikes but every little bit helps them be better in our opinion. Thanks for watching. We really appreciate it 👊
Hey TBG! Thanks so much for this video. I've always wanted to get this done, though I wanted to get your take. I can't say I've done a ton of off road yet but I'd like to and I've always felt like I could have the bike a bit higher and still have my feet flat on the ground. Would you recommend this to the average rider getting into camping/ off road? If so, could you also point to the links you've used? I find some on amazon but I want to make sure I get appropriate links. Were yours aluminum? Thanks so much for your time, I've learned a lot for your videos. Take care and ride safe!
No problem. The link should be in the description if not I'll try to find it for you. The links were aluminum. I appreciate you watching and I'm happy to hear that the videos have helped. 👊
awesome! I need some clearance!
Thanks! It definitely helped when riding off road. We appreciate you watching and commenting. Enjoyed the live stream 👊
I have not even watched the video. I just wanted to be first. 😁 - Frank
We'll take that 😁
did you lose any front travel?
No. We just reduced the sag by a 1/2 inch. So I didn't lose any travel
Yep the suspension definitely needs a real engineer to redesign the functionality. I think the kid who drew up the original plan wasn't a real motoboy.... good job, you backyard fixit guy. Saved me the guess work. Back yard fabricating /engineer grumble grumble.😆
It definitely improved the bike. I can't wait to do the same on my 14 V-strom 1000.
Do you know if you can do the same fork mod on the DL1000?
You can on the 1st gen 1000
But please do not use PVC pipe I truly believe this is a very unsafe
Any impact at all in terms of handling. Except the increased ground clearance ?
I didn't notice any difference in how the bike handled on or off road. The extra ground clearance was a big improvement and I'm about to do a lift on my 1000 because I miss not having that extra clearance.
What hand guards are those
Acerbis X Factor
how did you adjust the front fork after putting the pvc ?
I used the rebound adjuster to adjust them
PVC lol absolutely a stupid thing to do
@@Bok2022st it serves just as a spacer and given the fact that it's not something with great friction inside the tube & the fork oil temperature is not getting that high - it works. However, the main question is if this is just a lift of the suspension or increasing the suspension travel. In this case I believe that it's only the lift and the proper way to be done would be to extend the internal rod of the cartridge with cutting, welding, etc.
@@lyubengeorgiev1751 it just doesn't seem safe to be using PVC pipe instead of mould steel tube I did a conversion of my 650 DL Suzuki V-Strom are simply swapped over the internals I took them from a thousand cc Suzuki vistron they are much better progressive Springs it is a simple swap apart from the spacer which I made out of steel tube progressive suspension is better especially if you're loading up the V-Strom anyway brother you haven't got the bike anymore I believe not sure about that but it was an interesting video to watch cheers man ride safe
@@Bok2022st a friend of mine did exactly the same like you - swapped the internals from the 1000 and made metal spacers. He is really happy with the conversion and using the bike mostly with his wife, including off-road and long trips with luggage. I was thinking to go the same way but the 1000 for parts are not so often seen in my area. Another option is using after market cartridges from Italian brands like Andreani or Matris. However the main thing is that no matter which of the two ways I choose it’s not going to make the suspension longer, nor the ground clearance.
My god man you used PVC pipe as a spacer good luck with that my man
It worked great. It's not holding the suspension up. I wasn't the first one to do it
@@TheBeardedGrump if you want to do it properly use the progressive suspension Springs out of 1000cc put them into a650 you only have to change the spaces and don't use PVC pipe that's so crazy find my way it's awesome it works very well and completely safe with progressive front suspension which is not on the 650
@@Bok2022st I don't have this bike anymore. I now own a KTM 990 adventure
@@TheBeardedGrump another company that's drowning nice bike but trust me they are as a company brand they are sinking be aware before it's too late sell it first hand advice my friend
@@Bok2022st mine is a 2012 and they don't make the 990 anymore. It's the last good bike that KTM produced
Smoking ?
Me or the bike?