Rehabilitation programs is a must. Part of the rehabilitation programs is having something set up where they can live or jobs programs or you'll have a lot of re-offenders.
It's non existent. I did what I did due to mental illness, autism, ADHD and coping with too much alcohol. Years ago I would have been sectioned into a psychiatric unit because I was, once, but not anymore I'm afraid.
@@Tigither Did most of the women have mental health difficulties or ADHD/autism? I wouldn't be surprised. I have ADHD, and I can see there's definitely a link between that and crime. Also stuff like that just makes life harder, even without poverty, abuse, etc.
I think this is a really positive step in the right direction. Hopefully we'll see more of this, for both men and women prisoners. :) I get that some people are beyond help and will always be a danger to society, but I think a lot of people who end up being imprisoned could be saved. This is great! Keep up the good work. :)
Men and women prisoners, absolutely. If I was a prisoner and served twelve years in prison, one hundred and forty-four months of it, I serve the whole twelve years, not two, not five, but the full term until I re-evaluate if I behaved myself which I know I am capable of.
I think we should remove criminal records for things other than murder or rape. Not being able to get a job due to a record is one of the biggest causes of reoffending.
@@will2brown50how pissed off would you be if you employed someone who stole everything from your business, and they’d previously served time inside for doing the same thing?
Reminder for all the angry men who are going to belt their way into this comment section to teach the darned no-good feminists their place - this is a prison - i.e. a place where your daily routine is entirely managed for you by a prison bureaucracy you have *no control over* and where, most critically, you are separated from everybody you know and love, for a period of time that *you have no control over.* Perhaps instead of arguing that all women should have it as rough as the worst-treated men, *real* mens-rights advocates should be fighting to improve conditions across the board in Britain's prison system, and addressing the root causes for why men are disproportionately more likely to commit crimes in the first place (drugs abuse, poverty etc.) - just a thought. :)
That's a good point but there has been a growing movement for improving jail conditions for women and not for men. Surley the conversation should be to just reform the prison system as a whole rather than just for women?
This is like asking "why don't you talk about the pointlessness of foreign wars" on a climate change video - it's a valid topic - but that's not what *this* video is about. @@thepolticalone961
Shes a beautiful person 💕 i wish we had leaders in our prisons more in America like her. Her heart is definitely in the right place and we need more souls like hers,and shes right! Her job is to rehabilitate! Punishing addicts wont help anyone but the billion dollar rich evil people that have stock money invested in private prisons and unfortunately here in America most of our prisons are absolute cash cows and the more prisoners the better in their eyes 😢
It would be good if M&S or Boux Avenue (for example) could train inmates in bra-fitting; they could fit their fellow prisoners as training for jobs in this area once released.
@@emilymccartney1593 That's because the US prison system has an built in element called discipline, a phenomenon seemingly unknown here in the UK, if a prisoner spoke abuse to an officer in a US prison like we saw here they would be punished if the lack of punishment was meant to be a part of the rehabilitation of the population that would be different but it isn't it is PC at its worst & it is laziness on the part of staff.
I believe it’s important to rehabilitate prisoners so that they can support themselves. Most deserve a new start. Punishing for the sake of it is fruitless unless the prisoners have committed heinous crimes.
A new start ( again ) to rob and steal, hurt or even murder people.. oh yes they really need a new start! Most of them love it ! So until you would offer them free lodge and board at your home then don’t comment . All for the cameras 😂😂 a joke
Originally a detention centre for male juveniles . I was there in 1970 as a 16 year old. That was a tough regime , Worse haircut ever , No smoking for the whole of your term , No T.V. . Radio 10 minutes a day for the news in the dining hall .Up at the crack of dawn and exercising in the yard whatever the weather . Everything at the double . Circuit training was brutal , Get caught cheating and everyone had to start from the beginning the god help you in the showers after you got caught you got a severe beating. Murderball every Saturday . Work a full day , Classes at night , Church on Sunday , Hardly anytime to get into trouble .
Murder ball consisted of two teams with up to about 50 lads in each team . Then a member of staff would throw in a medicine ball and we would all have to scramble and fight to get it . It was a way to get some digs in on anyone that's pissed you off during the week . Some times it would be a blood bath . Hence the name Murderball. @@KallusGarnet
I was there in 1958. One screw in particular knocked me about something rotten. He put one lad in hospital for lifting his hands up to defend himself while he was being hit by that officer. There was this one screw who went around shouting, I'M IN CHARGE. Was he there when you were ?????. I hope that you have done well for yourself as I have, and put it all behind you. This would not happen to-day, or would it.
@@MrRobmellor Although the screws where ultra strict I never witnessed any of them hitting anyone but they encouraged bullying between the inmates and in some cases even rewarded it.
There were some very good screws there, but it only takes a couple of bad ones to wreak terror and the rest of them to do nothing to make life bad by bullying for young susceptible lads. The bullying and violence dealt out by a few of the screws made a big impact on my life. I could deal with the other lads, that was normal behavior, but those few screws were in the wrong job. I believe in discipline, but not bullying. Twisting a boys nipples and telling him to do that to their girlfriends when they got out was perverted, and the screws enjoyed it. Thanks for your reply, I,m glad that you didnt get the same treatment as the lads before you recieved. Look after yourself
@@rakadoni8403 I was there few years back and I got strip searched repeatedly taken down to the block for finding absolutely nothing .. I do like to talk back that’s about it but I ain’t not threat
Why are they always fussing so much about women and NOT about men. This is NOT fair ! Men often have it so much harder ! They don't get this kind of support as these women here ! In any event, I wish all these people here well and hopefully, they make their lives a success once they are released!
@@amigaamigo5307 Certainly not in the 21st century Mike Hunt! However, mostly white men that is. This has to change. Treat men in the prison system the same as you treat women. In Canada, women murderers (!!!), even those who murdered children, are sent to "healing lodges". Healing lodges are NOT available to men, no matter how minor their offense.
Renata Ostertag women who commit the same offence are given a lesser sentence. Even in the past it was boys we sent to die in war it was boys sent down the pits it was men last off a sinking ship. Today we are demonised for all the evils of the world a narrative created by the same groups who made us go to war for them. If prisons for men became like this one in the video I’d kill these bastards
@@amigaamigo5307 Yes, sadly - women in most cases get less for the same crimes ! And yes, it always outraged me, even as a small child, that boys were forced to go to war and get killed ! And in the 21st century boys get demonized for no good reason ! This must stop - full stop !
@@amigaamigo5307 other than fighting wars, plowing fields and doing what woman as a majority are unwilling or unable to do Because they are women you mean
These Ladies need serious help on release Housing, Jobs ect.. Instead the Government are handing everything on a plate to immigrants. We have to look after Our Own!
Why just these "women" need help... What about men? If you believe women should be specially privileged I assume you also believe women aren't equal to men yes?
@@lbrufio7092 Well I never mentioned men because this particular documentary was about a female prison. 👍. All UK citizens released from prison need housing. Deport the rest.
@@lbrufio7092 women are to be valued above men at all times and men are meant to be disposable human doings who give women things even if it's at the cost of themselves or other men
it would have been nice have you been there I was there for a year got out last July then got recalled last August so had to do full time again was only out ,11 days due to some bastards then went to drake which was also good been out since July this year
I know what you mean there were some some good people there and you knew who you could trust I'm not going back I was on c f b d wings I hated d wing I loved b+ c do you remember an officer called Mr Saunders he's is cute he was my personal officer i still hear from him he's in Liverpool now
I was on C, but ended up back in R wing cos I put my chair through the double glazing as you do... being in prison is not good for someone who can't cope with being locked in...😲
😂😂 I've never seen any brickies filling joints with their fingers. I know Liza, and she's had plenty of houses, but doesn't pay the rent she gets from Benefits🤷♂️ Not surprisingly, i didn't hear one bit of truth when she was talking. People who know, know 🥺
Help her then as she obviously needs it looks and obviously is vulnerable being a addict as the drugs come first hopefully she get s the help she needs
Looks cushy, much better than being on the street. Warm rooms, lovely countryside, hot food and showers, not really a big deterrent to stop offering is it!
Definitely not a great place when I was 15 in the 70s. Then it was a DC and the screws loved the beat you on many occasions ,can I forget it?even to this day I can't!
Richard Goode lisa is a nice person a good friend so keep you options to yourself I been there and there are a lot of animals its the prisoners who look after them
You've been in some s**t hotels then. It's a sh*thole!! You're only seeing the education department which is a old building from hundreds of years ago. You're not seeing the wings. It's no hotel!
That governor lady seems like a one in a million, she’s actually there to make a difference to these womens lives! Respect
I really hope all these ladies manage to turn their lives around and find happiness.
You could say the same for male individuals, society's most hated individuals be it a leader or unemployed.
@@uhegbuI take it you regularly campaign for men’s rights and don’t just trawl videos related to women so you can comment rubbish like this.
So, lets feel sorry for all the scum thats costing the uk taxpayer millions.. would you have them living with you? Your family? No!
@@Charizarzaroh i think youll find he already has 😂😂😂😂😂
@@uhegbuboo hoo. Poor men
Well prison doesn’t work for drug offenders they need addiction help and a safe place to live ...it’s those politicians need putting away
Rehabilitation programs is a must. Part of the rehabilitation programs is having something set up where they can live or jobs programs or you'll have a lot of re-offenders.
There needs to be help for these women after they get out of prison .
It's non existent. I did what I did due to mental illness, autism, ADHD and coping with too much alcohol. Years ago I would have been sectioned into a psychiatric unit because I was, once, but not anymore I'm afraid.
@@Tigither Did most of the women have mental health difficulties or ADHD/autism? I wouldn't be surprised. I have ADHD, and I can see there's definitely a link between that and crime. Also stuff like that just makes life harder, even without poverty, abuse, etc.
I say it again, what about male individuals? I think all of us need a re-think, universally, going forward.
@@uhegbu bruh you're commenting on a video about a WOMENS prison. No wonder the comments are on the topic
@@jazzcabbage9370 idgaf about this topic, there is no video for men in prison anyway
We need a 5 year after release update on these women. I want to see construction workers and retail managers.
Many of these woman have mental health issues that need to be resolved before they are released back into the community.
I think this is a really positive step in the right direction. Hopefully we'll see more of this, for both men and women prisoners. :) I get that some people are beyond help and will always be a danger to society, but I think a lot of people who end up being imprisoned could be saved. This is great! Keep up the good work. :)
Men and women prisoners, absolutely. If I was a prisoner and served twelve years in prison, one hundred and forty-four months of it, I serve the whole twelve years, not two, not five, but the full term until I re-evaluate if I behaved myself which I know I am capable of.
I think we should remove criminal records for things other than murder or rape. Not being able to get a job due to a record is one of the biggest causes of reoffending.
@@will2brown50how pissed off would you be if you employed someone who stole everything from your business, and they’d previously served time inside for doing the same thing?
@@Simon1985_ in unique cases of work specific crimes, a record makes sense upon point of query by the employer. That covers a wide range of things.
So a criminal record 😂@@will2brown50
Reminder for all the angry men who are going to belt their way into this comment section to teach the darned no-good feminists their place - this is a prison - i.e. a place where your daily routine is entirely managed for you by a prison bureaucracy you have *no control over* and where, most critically, you are separated from everybody you know and love, for a period of time that *you have no control over.*
Perhaps instead of arguing that all women should have it as rough as the worst-treated men, *real* mens-rights advocates should be fighting to improve conditions across the board in Britain's prison system, and addressing the root causes for why men are disproportionately more likely to commit crimes in the first place (drugs abuse, poverty etc.) - just a thought. :)
That's a good point but there has been a growing movement for improving jail conditions for women and not for men. Surley the conversation should be to just reform the prison system as a whole rather than just for women?
I think we can do both at once, no? @@thepolticalone961
@@cinderball1135 sure but if thats the case why is all the focus on the female prison system and not the prison system as a whole?
This is like asking "why don't you talk about the pointlessness of foreign wars" on a climate change video - it's a valid topic - but that's not what *this* video is about. @@thepolticalone961
@@cinderball1135 that's a massive false equivalency. What I've said makes perfect sense. You can reform the whole system not just part of it.
if only the US would follow suit!!! i hope to one day visit the UK, y’all are so lovely!
Love from the uk 🇬🇧
Hi 🇬🇧 👋 also from uk
you have come so far lisa told u things would get better for you u now have ur gorgeous lil boy and ur own home xxxx
Shes a beautiful person 💕 i wish we had leaders in our prisons more in America like her. Her heart is definitely in the right place and we need more souls like hers,and shes right! Her job is to rehabilitate! Punishing addicts wont help anyone but the billion dollar rich evil people that have stock money invested in private prisons and unfortunately here in America most of our prisons are absolute cash cows and the more prisoners the better in their eyes 😢
It would be good if M&S or Boux Avenue (for example) could train inmates in bra-fitting; they could fit their fellow prisoners as training for jobs in this area once released.
I live in the US where prisoners face gangs, violence, mistreatment from CO's. This is like summer camp compared to what we have here.
U should see the latinoamerican prisons, the prisons of the US are like summer camp for the prisioners
Ya well were in England you Americans are a backwards people well known so get on with it and do your backwards jail.
It's called rehabilitation.
If the American justice system is so great, then why do you have such a high crime rate??
@@emilymccartney1593 If rehabilitation works why does the UK have such a high residavism rate?
@@emilymccartney1593 That's because the US prison system has an built in element called discipline, a phenomenon seemingly unknown here in the UK, if a prisoner spoke abuse to an officer in a US prison like we saw here they would be punished if the lack of punishment was meant to be a part of the rehabilitation of the population that would be different but it isn't it is PC at its worst & it is laziness on the part of staff.
I believe it’s important to rehabilitate prisoners so that they can support themselves. Most deserve a new start. Punishing for the sake of it is fruitless unless the prisoners have committed heinous crimes.
Yes I agree
A new start ( again ) to rob and steal, hurt or even murder people.. oh yes they really need a new start! Most of them love it ! So until you would offer them free lodge and board at your home then don’t comment . All for the cameras 😂😂 a joke
thats a good idea all prison should be like that
No it's not and no they shouldn't
You have no idea. I was one of those women. I would be happy to elaborate more on my 8 month experience. It will open your eyes and your mind.
@@TigitherCould you please elaborate for me? I'm really interested in your experience :-)
@@Tigither can you tell me about your experiences if it's ok
And who should pay for such expensive prisons? Because reeducation programs aren't free.
That's rehabilitation in action, good to see!
Originally a detention centre for male juveniles . I was there in 1970 as a 16 year old. That was a tough regime , Worse haircut ever , No smoking for the whole of your term , No T.V. . Radio 10 minutes a day for the news in the dining hall .Up at the crack of dawn and exercising in the yard whatever the weather . Everything at the double . Circuit training was brutal , Get caught cheating and everyone had to start from the beginning the god help you in the showers after you got caught you got a severe beating. Murderball every Saturday . Work a full day , Classes at night , Church on Sunday , Hardly anytime to get into trouble .
what is Murder Ball?
Murder ball consisted of two teams with up to about 50 lads in each team . Then a member of staff would throw in a medicine ball and we would all have to scramble and fight to get it . It was a way to get some digs in on anyone that's pissed you off during the week . Some times it would be a blood bath . Hence the name Murderball. @@KallusGarnet
I was there in 1958. One screw in particular knocked me about something rotten. He put one lad in hospital for lifting his hands up to defend himself while he was being hit by that officer. There was this one screw who went around shouting, I'M IN CHARGE. Was he there when you were ?????. I hope that you have done well for yourself as I have, and put it all behind you. This would not happen to-day, or would it.
@@MrRobmellor Although the screws where ultra strict I never witnessed any of them hitting anyone but they encouraged bullying between the inmates and in some cases even rewarded it.
There were some very good screws there, but it only takes a couple of bad ones to wreak terror and the rest of them to do nothing to make life bad by bullying for young susceptible lads. The bullying and violence dealt out by a few of the screws made a big impact on my life. I could deal with the other lads, that was normal behavior, but those few screws were in the wrong job. I believe in discipline, but not bullying. Twisting a boys nipples and telling him to do that to their girlfriends when they got out was perverted, and the screws enjoyed it. Thanks for your reply, I,m glad that you didnt get the same treatment as the lads before you recieved. Look after yourself
Err.. this does not look like a place you wouldn't want to return to.
This is the worst prison I been to . Most not all but the majority of staff are racist rude have no respect and do what they like . They bully anyone
All you see is them showing us the garden, not real time within the walls.
Can you give more details? It does seem as though they're being very selective with who they allow to talk
@@rakadoni8403 I was there few years back and I got strip searched repeatedly taken down to the block for finding absolutely nothing .. I do like to talk back that’s about it but I ain’t not threat
@@childrensorg856 facts!
No they are not horrible the staff really do help you with things
God bless them all and thanks to the female manager for seeing their plight1🥰🙏🏾
They should legalize
80pc of women should not be in prison ...
They are worthy 😊 of being invested in.
I believe they deserve the opportunity to enhance their life skills 😊
Dam there's ducks strolling around the prison grounds
Is this Lucy Letby's future?
I doubt it, she’ll probably be put into segregation because of the nature of her crimes.
Imagine being in a room filled with criminals that would be terrifying for me
why you even watching then?
But if you're still n there with them that would make you a criminal just like them,.so you would be in with your own sort!?!?
@@biankabacso5743 i have to for re
armyy
Of course, it would be terrifying be it all male, all female or mixed, i.e two male, two female.
Go on Ch 4 tell them about them men they have doing time in there?
They haven't shown you the wings. Only the old house/education .
Congrats ladies you're doing just fine say and looks lovely karen would be joining you guys...
Why are they always fussing so much about women and NOT about men. This is NOT fair ! Men often have it so much harder ! They don't get this kind of support as these women here !
In any event, I wish all these people here well and hopefully, they make their lives a success once they are released!
Men have never been worth anything.
@@amigaamigo5307 Certainly not in the 21st century Mike Hunt! However, mostly white men that is. This has to change. Treat men in the prison system the same as you treat women.
In Canada, women murderers (!!!), even those who murdered children, are sent to "healing lodges". Healing lodges are NOT available to men, no matter how minor their offense.
Renata Ostertag women who commit the same offence are given a lesser sentence.
Even in the past it was boys we sent to die in war it was boys sent down the pits it was men last off a sinking ship.
Today we are demonised for all the evils of the world a narrative created by the same groups who made us go to war for them.
If prisons for men became like this one in the video I’d kill these bastards
@@amigaamigo5307 Yes, sadly - women in most cases get less for the same crimes ! And yes, it always outraged me, even as a small child, that boys were forced to go to war and get killed ! And in the 21st century boys get demonized for no good reason ! This must stop - full stop !
@@amigaamigo5307 other than fighting wars, plowing fields and doing what woman as a majority are unwilling or unable to do Because they are women you mean
My mum been in hmp fostonhall
Yea it's a dump
Dont tell people about the dirty bats
Pretty sure the road rage killer Tracie Andrews was in here for a long while.
I don’t really know why they film in a women’s prison I think women’s prisons are more dangerous
How the he’ll is that a prison
And they don't show the inside because it is rubbish
How those it help with mental disorders & Drugs the ladies are suffering from
Shoplifting is not really a crime, is it?
look what's happening in the US right now , mass shoplifting -- still don't think it's a crime? Or rather a punishable crime?
@@tomservo5007 Not a crime on Wall Street.
You are an idiot what if you owned a shop or a family member!!??
Female prisoners get all this?!
And day trips out fully funded by the tax payer
Lol
BeatsFL look at the prison. It’s nicer than the majority of these women’s houses.
@@baileythedog9243 in the GeoAmey sweatbox of course...😉😁
Disgustingly sexist
These Ladies need serious help on release Housing, Jobs ect.. Instead the Government are handing everything on a plate to immigrants. We have to look after Our Own!
Why just these "women" need help... What about men? If you believe women should be specially privileged I assume you also believe women aren't equal to men yes?
@@lbrufio7092 Well I never mentioned men because this particular documentary was about a female prison. 👍. All UK citizens released from prison need housing. Deport the rest.
@@lbrufio7092 women are to be valued above men at all times and men are meant to be disposable human doings who give women things even if it's at the cost of themselves or other men
been there its good but always locked in
and u have to work hard
but enjoyed it 😁😁😁
Vasyl Hi-Tech Lomachenko it was good really enjoyed it but not going back made some good mates there
it would have been nice have you been there I was there for a year got out last July then got recalled last August so had to do full time again was only out ,11 days due to some bastards then went to drake which was also good been out since July this year
I know what you mean there were some some good people there and you knew who you could trust I'm not going back I was on c f b d wings I hated d wing I loved b+ c do you remember an officer called Mr Saunders he's is cute he was my personal officer i still hear from him he's in Liverpool now
@@karenmarshall9992 I got released from Drake in July 2019. But went back in, but to Foston remanded, only got out a few weeks ago.
I was on C, but ended up back in R wing cos I put my chair through the double glazing as you do... being in prison is not good for someone who can't cope with being locked in...😲
Loved Foston
I loved it as well was in the kitchens really hard work but enjoyable but been out 3 yrs this mth never going back
It was nothing like that when i was there when it was a youth borstal.
😂😂 I've never seen any brickies filling joints with their fingers. I know Liza, and she's had plenty of houses, but doesn't pay the rent she gets from Benefits🤷♂️ Not surprisingly, i didn't hear one bit of truth when she was talking. People who know, know 🥺
Help her then as she obviously needs it looks and obviously is vulnerable being a addict as the drugs come first hopefully she get s the help she needs
Grow up please
@emmanuelpowell9839 lol, some people 🤣
Looks cushy, much better than being on the street. Warm rooms, lovely countryside, hot food and showers, not really a big deterrent to stop offering is it!
the problem with jail uk .on release 90pc are homeless...hence the merry go round..
This is why the English prison system is an absolute joke 😄 most people have it better in prison than they do outside 🙄
You've never been to prison have u cause not every prisons like that especially the male ones
Great place foston hall. Had the best times in there since 2001 -2018
Don't break the law u baddie
You're not meant to have a good time 🙄
Interesting prison this is what they do.
Its nothing like they show you . There are guys in there doing time
Lauren jeska was in when I was, a man! A violent one doing 18years.
Men should not be in women's prisons!
Been to visit there 😅
Àll prisons in my opinion. It'll save money in time!
Bea smith
This place is nothing like they are showing you FACT
I hope you are correct because this place is a joke. Spits in the faces of their victims!!!
@@vsculpt they have a Male inmate called Tye
@@truthseeker3530 How did a Male inmate get into a women's prison??
I know a bit about Foston Hall as I live near by
@@vsculpt filthy Bats live above education . Stinks in summer and flys awfull. The bats are protected. Its unhumane
How many girls jalis and there in London
I love women prison
What
Looks like a holiday camp.
It's not a holiday camp you have to follow rules and things but staff are very good
You can make make some really good mates in foston as long as you are clear with them what you done I have never had any trouble really enjoyed it
does the free cost include meals ? If so, is there a male equivalent ?
Nope
Definitely not a great place when I was 15 in the 70s. Then it was a DC and the screws loved the beat you on many occasions ,can I forget it?even to this day I can't!
So women get to turn their lives around, but men don’t? This is like a fuckin camp compared to a prison.
What makes you say that?
All prisons have jobs for prisoners.
Look at them being fed, clothed and treated to a life of riley. While good, honest people are struggling to eat.
This is what angers me about prison. If I was an employer, I wouldn’t employ anyone with a record even with skills just based on principle.
Channel 4 Feminism.
Journalistic professionalism? Nah, interview with a coffee in hand haha maddening, no standards.
Media of the response in the broadcast for the by media.
She also made sure to set up a shot of her meh, cleavage, probably sucking the cameraman...top notch journalism indeed.
Raijin Enel you Dont know what you on about its nice and its what you make it I been there have you ever been to prison
Richard Goode lisa is a nice person a good friend so keep you options to yourself I been there and there are a lot of animals its the prisoners who look after them
Fred Sausage u should keep ur mouth shut I been there and Lisa is a nice and good person
A veاناء اسمى كرتووواس اصللي اله مفروض ماتكلم مووضوويعي
it looks nice
Looks attractive
Perez Kenneth Harris Sandra Lee Robert
Perez Sandra Thompson Mary Williams Lisa
Women have got it to easy
Woman's jails proclamations school
Looks cushy like a hotel
You've been in some s**t hotels then.
It's a sh*thole!! You're only seeing the education department which is a old building from hundreds of years ago. You're not seeing the wings. It's no hotel!
Looks like they are living the life, and the chickens mmm why not.
pumping iron its a nice place been there really friendly prisoners and officers
My wife wouldn't be the man he is today if it wasn't for Foston
Chaz Walker your wife transitioned into a man in prison.
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Nicee
All I hear is excuses
Holiday camp my arsd
Lesbians my mates in it 😮
This is more like a boot camp
Nice place, ill take the 1st week in September