What happened to the regulation pause of 2 seconds, For Present arms & Shoulder arms. Those FN rifles were much better than the toys the Guards carry on their shoulders nowadays with the rubber coverings
Two new incremental infantry companies were raised for The Irish Guards (Company Number 9 and 12 with later taking up the traditions of the Irish Guards, 2nd Battalion).
@@jmramos0109 there is lower public opinion for both the monarchy, government and the pageantry. So an increase of budget sent to ceremonial will not be seen well by the public because of the economic crisis
Today is the 26th June 2023. The First Trooping The Colour of King Charles lll was just over a week ago. The Comparison between this 1987 Parade & the 2023 Parade is quite shocking, only 6 Companies of Foot Guards, the Massed Regimental Bands of the Guards numbering about 250, the Mounted Band of The 2 Cavalry Regiments 1/2 the size & the Cavalry Regiments are 1/2 the number of Troopers. Frightening the Numbers have been cut back so much, but are still expected to do the same Job. A whole new level of respect to these Serving Units, God Bless you all!
@@mario2849 Hello Mario! Yes! even in the 3 Years between 1984 & 1987 there's a decrease in Numbers, but between 1987 & 2023, there are a Huge Reduction in Numbers. It's quite sobering when you consider that these Troops all belong to the Household Division, The Scarlet Tunic & Bearskin Helmets of the Guards, 5 Regiments that form the Footguards, the Infantry part & the Mounted Band & 2 Regiments of the Cavalry being the Mounted part of the Household Division. There is also the Kings Royal Troop of Artillery, they are not part of the Household Division, but they are attached to it & perform Ceremonial Duties only. The Cavalry Regiments are the oldest Continual Serving Regiments in the British Army. The Blues & Royals (Blue Tunics & Red Plumed Helmets) & the Lifeguards (Scarlet Tunics & White Plumed Helmets) are Mechanised Reconnaissance Units, Prince Harry served with The Blues & Royals. They spend half a year on Pubic Duty & half a year on Active Service & have served since 1980 in N Ireland, Bosnia, the Falklands, the Gulf War, Afghanistan, Iraq, the Balkans. They were also deployed in Germany as part of the NATO Forces. The 5 Infantry Regiments of the Household Division are The Grenadier Guards, the Coldstream Guards, The Scots Guards, The Irish Guards & The Welsh Guards. They are the ones you see Changing Guard at Buckingham Palace & St James Palace & at Clarence House in London & Windsor Castle at Windsor. They also Guard the Tower of London, but there's no Tourist Ceremony to Watch. They also have a 50/50 Ceremonial (Public Duties) & Active Service Split, but it's different than the Cavalry. Each of the Regiments have a 1st Battalion with some having a 2nd Battalion. The Irish Guards for example, have 1 Battalion & Several Companies who handle Ceremonial & other Duties. Recently, they have been deployed in Wiltshire, training Ukrainian Conscripts & also Afghanistan as part of the UN Force. Each 1 of the Regiments also has a Regimental Band, who provide Musical Support for the Guard Changes & they are who Form the Massed Bands at Trooping The Colour & other Ceremonies. In fact, The Trooping the Colour Parade, is the Household Divisions Gift to the Monarch, on the Official Birthday of the Monarch. What you saw in 2023, the 6 Companies of the 5 Regiments Infantry Regiments is Virtually all the Troops left in the UK, the remaining Servicemen are on Active Duty Overseas. Thee Guard Duty in London & Windsor, are usually Mounted by other Army Regiments or other Service Personnel, from the RAF or RN. The Sad truth is that Successive Governments have made Cutback after Cutback to the Defence Force, but Promise more & more Support to UN & NATO Forces around the World. It's been said that if another Event like The Falkland War happened, the UK wouldn't have the Logistics or the Personnel to Respond. Frightening Really.
Has anyone read the subtitles, they are hilarious parading today are the mouse bands, the nerds cavalry, the snots guard jeez. Anyway back to the main reason trooping the colour, marvellous spectacle.
I Trooped that year 1987 in No2 Guard 2nd Bn ScotsGuards, Left Flank... RSM Clemison #Halabaloooo was an outstanding individual.. His drill was smart & meticulous..
@Oliver O'Donovan I'm sure that's not the case, despite what people may or may not say.. The Household have more pressing and additional demands of what we didn't have way back.. They are overseas much more in campaign, exercises, cross country relations and deployments.. maybe and I say maybe standards may have slipped.. but today's lads / lasses will always have my respect
@Oliver O'Donovan Don't understand why they're overweight lol... They have more fitness days than I remember lol.. or wouldve liked.. Back in 1987 we had an outstanding RSM R.Clemison who was a stickler for drill.. GSM Perry Mason apparently commented that the troop that year was his best to date.. i think he was wary of Clemmie lol
Great vid. Thanks for uploading. Good parade, crisp drill, turnout and bearing as you would expect of Guards before the closure of the Guards Depot ( hint), the good old SLR, and lastly Tom Fleming commentating. He knew his stuff.
@@memphis6420 Well its going to happen because body armour has improved the LMT 762 is getting good reports because has lower recoil and muzzle climb so its that or die in conflict.
I am Spanish and I really like LIVE military music, and after looking for the march (thanks to you) I must admit that the best interpretation is done here in 1985, it is SPECTACULAR. Thank you, again.
I never grew up with the SLR rivals but man they looked really good, even as an American. It would make more sense if they used an old fashioned looking gun for ceremonial duties, like how we use this M14s in honor guards (or guard of honor). The new guns are fine but an old gun just fits ceremonial duties better than a modern gun.
I always thought they should have kept the SLR for state occasions like this one ...Much better looking than the SA-80's they're using now ...This is my dads ex-Regiment and indeed his ex-Battalion before they became F company as they are now
Sirs ! If the English can do anything, it's formal training. We Germans can't do that (anymore) - but we're quick with the 108 mm tank guns, 80/120 mm mortars and 155 mm artillery. You just have to set priorities! We should just play "Ode to Joy" for the Russians on these instruments - WE CAN DO THAT! We'll finish the pork cheeks!
It’s really impressive when the guards are all the same height. Today I’m sorry to say I want to sing Yo ho ho… when I see them. Oh well, the new world.
If I'm correct this troop was made up of half Scots guards, 2 from the 1st and 2 from the second battalion. This was the only one I did and was the last one using slr. I was 1st battalion Scots.
I'm from Chile and i'm a great admirer of TTC since last 8 years. I have a question; Why this particular senior drum major repeats his participation for 4 years (84 to 87)?
Dixie Dean was Drum Major of the Irish Guards from 1974 to 1984 before being appointed as the Senior Drum Major, Household Division in 1984. He held that position until he retired a few years later when Steven Ward (Coldstream Guards) took over. Here is a video of a recent handover: fb.watch/35nvSw8_wA/
You mean at the beginning, when they’ve just stepped off in QuickTime, before they get bunched up and inevitably fight for room…… I do love an armchair expert
Now I've heard different dates for when the kettle drums were given to the 2 Cavalry Regiments, can anyone clarify? On a different video the announcer said they were given to both units by 2 different kings in 1805, highly doubtful.
I've gotten flak before for not knowing why the Coldstream Guards always form up either first (when they troop their colour) or last (when they aren't). Of course I know better now, but why is 1987 the only example where the Coldstream Guards are in the middle? Why are the Irish Guards behind them?
Alexander Shekhtman The Coldstream Guards have usually been the one's who form the angle on parade, but the reason we see them as the last today and not in the middle (like in this parade). Is because the Guards have been downsized, they went from 8 Guards in the 1980s to now 6 Guards, leaving the Coldstream as last when not Trooping their Colour. If you see Trooping the Colour now usually the Coldstream Guards are last, as there's no more 7 or 8 Guards making them the last. I don't know the exact reason as why the Irish Guards are last on this parade. Hopes this helps! I do apologize if it doesn't make sense!
@@delvinrodriguez3341 - No need to apologize, it does make sense. The parade was downsized from 8 to 6 Guards in 1993. According to what I was told, however, the reason that the Coldstream Guards always form up either first or last is that it's symbolic of them being "Second to None" (Nulli Secundus). And yet, 1987 is the *only* example I could find where they aren't first or last. If the downsizing happened in 1993, surely there ought to be other such examples, right?
@@AlexSh789 Glad you understood my "essay" lol. It is very interesting that 1987 is the only occasion that the Coldstream Guards were in the middle. And I personally haven't seen any other parades of them being 5 and 6 Guard, and having another Guard/Guards next to them.
@@AlexSh789 Interesting, wonder why they used that arrangement? Funny I've watched the 1986 parade multiple times and haven't noticed. But I guess I'm more focused on the Massed Bands.
My one and only troop, No 3 Guard, 1st Bn Scots Guards. I was in the center of the guard so was on the outside as the ranks split. What a day.
Bless you.
What happened to the regulation pause of 2 seconds, For Present arms & Shoulder arms. Those FN rifles were much better than the toys the Guards carry on their shoulders nowadays with the rubber coverings
Gone are the days when we had a full complement of soldiers
Yeah.
@@lewissmith3896 with the increased defense budget it will hopefully return
Two new incremental infantry companies were raised for The Irish Guards (Company Number 9 and 12 with later taking up the traditions of the Irish Guards, 2nd Battalion).
@@jmramos0109 there is lower public opinion for both the monarchy, government and the pageantry. So an increase of budget sent to ceremonial will not be seen well by the public because of the economic crisis
@@jmramos0109I hope so.
Tom Fleming had a voice that was commensurate with the solemnity and splendor of the occasion. That has been so lacking since those days.
Miss listening to him watching the Edinburgh tattoo
@@Yeah95607 Same here mate. I grew up listening to him at that event.
Tom Fleming, the master of all commentator. Detailed research before the event and a wonderful voice and tone. Also covered Diana's funeral.
Couldn’t agree more, not the same without his iconic voice covering events like this
@@Yeah95607Absolutely. I also like Julian Rhind-Tutt & Eric Robson as well.
Today is the 26th June 2023. The First Trooping The Colour of King Charles lll was just over a week ago. The Comparison between this 1987 Parade & the 2023 Parade is quite shocking, only 6 Companies of Foot Guards, the Massed Regimental Bands of the Guards numbering about 250, the Mounted Band of The 2 Cavalry Regiments 1/2 the size & the Cavalry Regiments are 1/2 the number of Troopers. Frightening the Numbers have been cut back so much, but are still expected to do the same Job. A whole new level of respect to these Serving Units, God Bless you all!
I saw the 1984 trooping and the forces were almost overwhelming numbers
@@mario2849 Hello Mario! Yes! even in the 3 Years between 1984 & 1987 there's a decrease in Numbers, but between 1987 & 2023, there are a Huge Reduction in Numbers. It's quite sobering when you consider that these Troops all belong to the Household Division, The Scarlet Tunic & Bearskin Helmets of the Guards, 5 Regiments that form the Footguards, the Infantry part & the Mounted Band & 2 Regiments of the Cavalry being the Mounted part of the Household Division. There is also the Kings Royal Troop of Artillery, they are not part of the Household Division, but they are attached to it & perform Ceremonial Duties only. The Cavalry Regiments are the oldest Continual Serving Regiments in the British Army. The Blues & Royals (Blue Tunics & Red Plumed Helmets) & the Lifeguards (Scarlet Tunics & White Plumed Helmets) are Mechanised Reconnaissance Units, Prince Harry served with The Blues & Royals. They spend half a year on Pubic Duty & half a year on Active Service & have served since 1980 in N Ireland, Bosnia, the Falklands, the Gulf War, Afghanistan, Iraq, the Balkans. They were also deployed in Germany as part of the NATO Forces. The 5 Infantry Regiments of the Household Division are The Grenadier Guards, the Coldstream Guards, The Scots Guards, The Irish Guards & The Welsh Guards. They are the ones you see Changing Guard at Buckingham Palace & St James Palace & at Clarence House in London & Windsor Castle at Windsor. They also Guard the Tower of London, but there's no Tourist Ceremony to Watch. They also have a 50/50 Ceremonial (Public Duties) & Active Service Split, but it's different than the Cavalry. Each of the Regiments have a 1st Battalion with some having a 2nd Battalion. The Irish Guards for example, have 1 Battalion & Several Companies who handle Ceremonial & other Duties. Recently, they have been deployed in Wiltshire, training Ukrainian Conscripts & also Afghanistan as part of the UN Force. Each 1 of the Regiments also has a Regimental Band, who provide Musical Support for the Guard Changes & they are who Form the Massed Bands at Trooping The Colour & other Ceremonies. In fact, The Trooping the Colour Parade, is the Household Divisions Gift to the Monarch, on the Official Birthday of the Monarch. What you saw in 2023, the 6 Companies of the 5 Regiments Infantry Regiments is Virtually all the Troops left in the UK, the remaining Servicemen are on Active Duty Overseas. Thee Guard Duty in London & Windsor, are usually Mounted by other Army Regiments or other Service Personnel, from the RAF or RN.
The Sad truth is that Successive Governments have made Cutback after Cutback to the Defence Force, but Promise more & more Support to UN & NATO Forces around the World. It's been said that if another Event like The Falkland War happened, the UK wouldn't have the Logistics or the Personnel to Respond.
Frightening Really.
Good seeing my old jock guards mates on here.
This was the last time the L1A1 SLR was used on the Queen's Birthday Parade. The next year, the Irish Guards would troop with the new L85A1.
It looks great with a full parade square .
Only 35 years ago yet a completely different United Kingdom and perhaps a better one.
1987 trooping the color:
1. Her majesty's first apperance without horseback and not in uniform
2. Last year for the guards using the SLR rifle
It was before the SA80 rifles they use now
I was on that troop with 1st Battalion Scots guards last time the SLR was used on it .
Drill was much smarter back then with the SLR.
@Leslie Dodds yes they were .
@@kevinadamson7571 exactly
Has anyone read the subtitles, they are hilarious parading today are the mouse bands, the nerds cavalry, the snots guard jeez. Anyway back to the main reason trooping the colour, marvellous spectacle.
The subtitles are auto-generated and can indeed be very amusing.
I Trooped that year 1987 in No2 Guard 2nd Bn ScotsGuards, Left Flank... RSM Clemison #Halabaloooo was an outstanding individual.. His drill was smart & meticulous..
@Oliver O'Donovan 2nd Bn Scots Guards, Right Flank provided the Escort to the Colour
I was in the escort that day
@@psychorider46 Yes mate.. You certainly were.. One of tall chaps 💂♂️💂♂️💂♂️
@Oliver O'Donovan I'm sure that's not the case, despite what people may or may not say.. The Household have more pressing and additional demands of what we didn't have way back.. They are overseas much more in campaign, exercises, cross country relations and deployments.. maybe and I say maybe standards may have slipped.. but today's lads / lasses will always have my respect
@Oliver O'Donovan Don't understand why they're overweight lol... They have more fitness days than I remember lol.. or wouldve liked.. Back in 1987 we had an outstanding RSM R.Clemison who was a stickler for drill.. GSM Perry Mason apparently commented that the troop that year was his best to date.. i think he was wary of Clemmie lol
I WAS THERE HAPPY DAYS
RSM Clemison 41:41 is my Grandad. Have a photo of him taking the flag. Hoping to follow in his footsteps.
I was on that parade.
Great vid. Thanks for uploading. Good parade, crisp drill, turnout and bearing as you would expect of Guards before the closure of the Guards Depot ( hint), the good old SLR, and lastly Tom Fleming commentating. He knew his stuff.
He sure did.
Dsa arms modernised the FN it looks great shorter with optics with 3 round bursts it would be still the best rifle and 762 well keep your head down .
@@memphis6420 Well its going to happen because body armour has improved the LMT 762 is getting good reports because has lower recoil and muzzle climb so its that or die in conflict.
@@memphis6420 LMT rifle is an infantry rifle it fires full auto watch chris on smallarmsolutions .
Amazing to see 7,8&9 Guard!!
7 & 8
I am Spanish and I really like LIVE military music, and after looking for the march (thanks to you) I must admit that the best interpretation is done here in 1985, it is SPECTACULAR. Thank you, again.
Oh my this is totally amazing
Thanks so much for posting
Thank you again!
I never grew up with the SLR rivals but man they looked really good, even as an American. It would make more sense if they used an old fashioned looking gun for ceremonial duties, like how we use this M14s in honor guards (or guard of honor). The new guns are fine but an old gun just fits ceremonial duties better than a modern gun.
I always thought they should have kept the SLR for state occasions like this one ...Much better looking than the SA-80's they're using now ...This is my dads ex-Regiment and indeed his ex-Battalion before they became F company as they are now
They are professional soldiers with many uniforms but only one personal weapon.
Thanks for sharing this memorable video of Trooping the Colour. May I ask you what the intro music played is at the beginning?
Sirs !
If the English can do anything, it's formal training. We Germans can't do that (anymore) - but we're quick with the 108 mm tank guns, 80/120 mm mortars and 155 mm artillery. You just have to set priorities!
We should just play "Ode to Joy" for the Russians on these instruments - WE CAN DO THAT! We'll finish the pork cheeks!
This is first time the queen was not in uniform of the guards
It’s really impressive when the guards are all the same height. Today I’m sorry to say I want to sing Yo ho ho… when I see them. Oh well, the new world.
I am Chilean and I really like the United Kingdom
If I'm correct this troop was made up of half Scots guards, 2 from the 1st and 2 from the second battalion. This was the only one I did and was the last one using slr. I was 1st battalion Scots.
Thank you for your service.
You prolly wont see this, but so was I, lol. I was Right Flank at the time before going to B company prior to deployment to Germany.
I'm from Chile and i'm a great admirer of TTC since last 8 years. I have a question; Why this particular senior drum major repeats his participation for 4 years (84 to 87)?
Dixie Dean was Drum Major of the Irish Guards from 1974 to 1984 before being appointed as the Senior Drum Major, Household Division in 1984. He held that position until he retired a few years later when Steven Ward (Coldstream Guards) took over. Here is a video of a recent handover: fb.watch/35nvSw8_wA/
@@davyflute9033 Could you please tell me which troopings you have recored and have not uploaded yet. many thanks
I've uploaded all the trooping recordings I have. There are others out there on TH-cam so maybe worth a search if you haven't already.
@@davyflute9033 Yes, it’s only 1989 and 2009 that aren’t online at all, I’ve seen all the other versions a million times lol.
Pipers of the scots guards play highland laddie 💂🏴
Great Scottish music played by massed bands pipes and drums household division 💂🏴
1:06:10 guardsmen nowadays dont swing their arms perfectly like that anymore during the quickmarch
@Destoer has the discipline declined or what?
@Destoer sad
@@patriot4786 depends honestly, I think wars and total drilling ordered them to March perfectlyy
But not the arms
You mean at the beginning, when they’ve just stepped off in QuickTime, before they get bunched up and inevitably fight for room…… I do love an armchair expert
56:36 goosebumps
Theon oy queen's birthday parade I did.
Tom Fleming always got it right…. Huw Edwards wants to be him but he is not
I really hope can get a full song of Scottish Colour. The Neutral Quick March🙌
Scottish Colours: music.th-cam.com/video/iZ7jhDa-9Fo/w-d-xo.html&feature=share
@@davyflute9033Thank you so much🤗
@Leslie Dodds Sorry, I don't have a recording of the 1980 Trooping.
CAN SOMEONE TELL ME THE NAME OF THE FAST MARCH THAT THEY PLAY AFTER THE HUGONOTES? THANK YOU
It's called "Pentland Hills" by Major James Hakim (Jimmy) Howe.
@@davyflute9033 THANK YOU
When was the first time the corps of drums played during the forming up to the march past?
1990
0:08 What's the name of this song?
1:40:44 Could anyone tell me the name of the song they are playing there? It would mean a great much to me
Student Loans the march is called "The Royal Artillery Slow March".
@@delvinrodriguez3341 Thank you so so much! I really appreciate you taking the time out of your day just to say that
@@floral2875 No problem mate glad I can be of help!
38:52 🇬🇧
This is the last year of their using Fn fal gun then the year 1988 they have new issued gun named SA80
Now I've heard different dates for when the kettle drums were given to the 2 Cavalry Regiments, can anyone clarify? On a different video the announcer said they were given to both units by 2 different kings in 1805, highly doubtful.
Can someone tell me that March name? I can’t hear what he says. 34:30
Pentland Hills. A medley of Scottish tunes arranged by Jimmy Howe.
@@davyflute9033 thanks man!
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The escort march to British grenadier
Solo march is escort to the colour
I've gotten flak before for not knowing why the Coldstream Guards always form up either first (when they troop their colour) or last (when they aren't).
Of course I know better now, but why is 1987 the only example where the Coldstream Guards are in the middle? Why are the Irish Guards behind them?
Alexander Shekhtman The Coldstream Guards have usually been the one's who form the angle on parade, but the reason we see them as the last today and not in the middle (like in this parade). Is because the Guards have been downsized, they went from 8 Guards in the 1980s to now 6 Guards, leaving the Coldstream as last when not Trooping their Colour. If you see Trooping the Colour now usually the Coldstream Guards are last, as there's no more 7 or 8 Guards making them the last. I don't know the exact reason as why the Irish Guards are last on this parade. Hopes this helps! I do apologize if it doesn't make sense!
@@delvinrodriguez3341 - No need to apologize, it does make sense. The parade was downsized from 8 to 6 Guards in 1993.
According to what I was told, however, the reason that the Coldstream Guards always form up either first or last is that it's symbolic of them being "Second to None" (Nulli Secundus). And yet, 1987 is the *only* example I could find where they aren't first or last. If the downsizing happened in 1993, surely there ought to be other such examples, right?
@@AlexSh789 Glad you understood my "essay" lol. It is very interesting that 1987 is the only occasion that the Coldstream Guards were in the middle. And I personally haven't seen any other parades of them being 5 and 6 Guard, and having another Guard/Guards next to them.
@@delvinrodriguez3341 - I found more. 1986 had the same arrangement: Scots, Coldstream, Irish.
@@AlexSh789 Interesting, wonder why they used that arrangement? Funny I've watched the 1986 parade multiple times and haven't noticed. But I guess I'm more focused on the Massed Bands.
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should get some North Korean drill instructors in to tidy them up