We carry a high deductible, and keep a car maintenance account of about $1500 so that if anything happens to our 2 cars (one is paid off) we have cash on hand to take care of it... including work or regular maintenance.
Dave, I had never thought about it this way before. I still have collision insurance on my Civic even though I paid the loan off because it’s only five years old. I had a $1,000 deductible and after listening to this, I changed it to a $200 deductible. It costs $240/year more for $800 less risk. I didn’t even think about it this way. I can afford the extra $20 a month and would rather not have to fork over $1,000 if I total my car or have to make another claim that I’d normally have to pay a deductible for.
Nile that’s true but I drive my car for work and have had several near misses, some of which would’ve been my fault. I think a $1,000 deductible when I use my car to make my living is somewhat irresponsible. And I can afford the increased premium.
Nile “If you keep causing near collisions” (not a real thing by the way) maybe you have a problem listening. Some, not all of them, would’ve been my fault had it resulted in an accident. I do literally thousands of trips a year and this is seldom the situation but my point of the comment was that Ramsey is right in transferring risk. I don’t currently have an emergency fund like I definitely should and I could not pay a $1,000 deductible without incurring new debt, which I want to try to avoid.
My collision already has a 1k deductible, but my comp is $250. After listening to this yesterday, I actually did contact my insurance agent and asked him how much I'd save if I raised the comp deductible for my three vehicles to 1k as well, and he came back with... about $64 a year. He added that comp usually doesn't change much, but changing your collision deductible could result in much bigger changes.
I totally agree with you sir about the dogs and how much they mean to us. I proudly tell you that I unashamedly cry like a little girl for a long time when any of my dogs dies. I do that even though I know they are pending the passing. When they go, an emptiness is left in my heart. It hurts for a long time. Well, at least until I get another dog, which usually is not very long at all. I really like dogs and their companionship. Praise God!
Been living in poverty for the last 10 years started with 140k in debt making 42k in the beginning, now making 65k a year and down to 63k in debt but still feels hopeless like it will never end so depressing..
@johnb382s keep it up! Many people with student loans that size are deeper in student loan debt because they make the minimum payments. You're an inspiration you're over halfway there!
Have you reduced all your spending down to as little as possible? For example, how much are you spending on groceries and for how many? Do you have a budget? Where does most of your money go? I recommend the following TH-cam channels: ChooseFI and Our Rich Journey.
This is defiantly one of the biggest issues young individuals have with their money. I know this because I am a college student and I see it all the time. Young people have this idea that nothing can go wrong for them, they are young and will bounce back quickly. However more likely than not something will happen. And when it does if one is not prepared there is a road of hurt ahead. Preparation is so important.
Could you talk about dental insurance and if it is worth it? I have a lot of problems with my teeth/gums and am not sure if I should get it. I do have a savings fund for dental in the meanwhile. I am a senior on Medicare.
Dental insurance is usually cheap. But doesn't have as much coverage. It probably depends on your state. But for example mine was 25$/month, I paid 135/filling instead of 250. But it's not the same as normal insurance. My root canal was still over 1k, but still discounted. Shop around see what is there in your area. Shop different dentist offices too for the best deals.
I don't think anyone is ever really ready for those blind spots. I have been working on step two, but if the husband isn't on board, I am wondering if I will EVER be out of debt. As I am sure people make mistakes, I have my first $1K in savings, but now due to another murphy's laws event we owe more than $5400 on a debt and its due by Feb 9th, its impossible to not have further debt pile up. I don't even have my first credit card paid off as murphy's law keeps coming up. I may as well just keep stockpiling into the emergency fund till I reach the $10K mark before starting on step 2! UGH.
Sounds like this year it might be worth the $100 to have someone do the taxes for you. Also without your husband on board you are trying to fill in a hole while your husband could still be digging out the bottom. Unless your desire to be out of debt is strong than his desire to spend money then your never going to win with money, even then your progress will be very slow because your fighting over the shovel.
@@lydialukes522 No disagreement here. I can't change my husband but he wants too much all at once. Taxes are filed jointly. Takes more than 100 dollars to have them done by someone else here.
I spent 4K to keep my dog alive, thts my best friend and Idk where I would be without him that’s the only living being whos had my back including my own family
I'm with you Dave cats aren't for me either and I LOVE MY DOG but 10 g's absolutely not... However I do pay cash to keep him up to date on all health preventatives
The cancer insurance is not a bad idea. I'm a teacher and have watched several teachers suffer because our health insurance will not cover cancer treatments. It's not just a gimmick, I've seen our heartless insurance companies look at women battling cancer and deny them treatment.
Its not the same but I have phone insurance lol my phone just cost me 1350 bucks sooo yea if I drop and break it I get one the very next day overnight!
One person here on youtube called his pet insurance “marriage insurance”because his wife would want to do everything possible to save the pets and it would be a problem in their marriage if he didn’t want to spend the money to save the pet.
$10,000 to keep you dog alive is interesting. I just put $4k to get my dog knee surgery. If it was $10k I probably wouldn't have done it. If she was older (she was 4 at the time) I wouldn't have put the $4k on her.... Makes me think and wonder what the cost\value association is.
So you would be better off with pet insurance since it would save you half the money at 4yr age since it costs like $55/month. But as dogs get older, it’s not worth it.
DO NOT go without health insurance, EVER!!! Even you you go with the $50 a month $10,000 deductible shitplan, you get massive discounts at the hospital just for having insurance, because the hospitals have special deals with the insurance companies. Lets say you get hit by a car tomorrow and have a bunch of broken bones and a punctured lung. The discounts you get from the shitplan could easily take your cost from $100k without insurance down to $20k, even if the insurance company doesn't actually pay anything. Also of course you get fined by the IRS if you don't have health insurance (thanks Obama).
But but but Dave. If I bought all of the insurance you said to get. Life... Long term disability... Renters. ECT. I couldn't afford to live. I make $11 he 34 hrs a week.
insurance is a scam but one needs it ..1871 cats are the best as a Tennessee hot-rod guy it how you get them n how you interact with them just like say a teenage son be off n ignore expect the same .
Yeah, just get life insurance instead and use some of the money to pay for a burial. Or throw the body in a ditch and use the money to go to Maui for a month. It's not like they care, they're dead.
Insurance? Life insurance covers that if you buy the right amount. Or you can prepay your funeral (if you know you've settled where you'll be the rest of your life).
In my opinion Dave is usually right on with personal finance. But I can't get behind him about economical finance. His perspectives are a little limited in that area imo.
For people who can't afford insurance it's a matter of going bankrupt now and not being able to pay for the essentials (rent, food, gas for work) or possibly something happening and getting into astronomical debt later. Either way it's a lose lose for those people. Once again Dave shows his ignorance towards the struggling lower and middle class.
So, do you have a solution that's better than Dave's insurance recommendations, or did you just want to complain about the existence of struggling poor people?
I know! I love Dave, and I can understand that mindset if you're in debt with no money, but Dave is a multi-millionaire. $10,000 at that point is nothing to save a dog.
I think part of the mindset of that is that if it takes 10k to fix the dog (Or any pet for that matter) how much is the dog going to be suffering or how much longer is the animal going to live even with the surgery, procedure, or whatever costs that much. Would you spend 10k to keep a dog only one week longer than letting the dog rest in peace and pain free??
@@lydialukes522 No, but that's not how he phrased it. He said he wouldn't, ever, spend $10,000 to save a dog. If it took $10,000 to save my dog for another few years, I'd do it. Assuming, of course, that they wouldn't have to suffer through that time.
@Lydia Lukes I agree about not prolonging for a short period of time especially if it was detriment to the dogs health but 10k to Dave has gotta be a few days interest with his sort of money. If it kept his dog living another year and did no further damage then what is the harm there?
My issue with spending lots of money on pets is that there are humans who aren’t getting procedures because resources are low (money and doctors). I’d much rather a doctors time and that amount of money be spent on a human.
THIS truly showed how "godly" DR is. he eats and wears animals so it is no wonder why he would not spend money to save an animal at that expense when it is needed. how holy is it to support the abuse, neglect, torture and slaughter of "Gods" creatures for a selfish meal when it is completely unnecessary? "Thou Shalt Not Kill" does not have an **** then says (besides animals.) why do religious people and their church host BBQ fundraisers with the corpses of Gods animals? how is this a good thing? i love his financial advice mostly but not the animal outlook. they are also living and have emotions too, ALL of them, what happened to just being nice to animals? is it really that big of a deal to be nice?
It isn't godly to support abuse or torture of animals. It is godly to support slaughter of animals for human consumption or for historicly mandated sacrifices for the accountability of sin. In some cases it is godly to support neglect of animals when human safety is at risk. The ** does exist in Genesis 9:3, Leviticus 11, Deutoronomy 14. In fact in Leviticus 6:26, God requires priests to eats burnt offerings. One point Jesus proved when he provided fish to the multitudes, and when he took a sacrificed lamb to the Temple, is that human life is the central focus of His agenda, while as Genesis 1:26 emphisizes, humans have dominion over animals. I don't see where Dave is out of line denying the extended life of an animal if human family well-being suffers as a result. What if you need that money for the medical expenses of your spouse, parent, or child in the future for example? I'll go out on a limb and say you will be hard-pressed to find a theologian who agrees with your assessment that scripture elevates animal privileges to that of humans.
@@cristelahopkins447 in your words >> "It isn't godly to support abuse or torture of animals. It is godly to support slaughter of animals for human consumption or for historicly mandated sacrifices for the accountability of sin." if it is not "godly" to abuse, then what do you call slaughter, kinda godly?" when humans eat and wear animals that is only for selfish reasons, it is not neceassary. traditon is not always a good thing, slavery, sexism etc, it is ok to be the change or make change. humans do have the right to protect themselves, but when you go out of your way to kill or cause harm to them for selfish reasons who is there for them? why when people refer to the bible as having dominion it always resorts to their abuse? why not care of them instead? again, pathetic traditions. the lamb was not sacrificed, she was forced to be killed, why jump all around their torture to make yourself feel ok about taking another innocent life? it is not about elevating anyones priveleges, it is just about being nice and not causing or supporting unnecessary harm to others. i do not need a book to tell me what goes against my beliefs to accept that it is ok to slaughter animals, it is called having a conscious. all you described sounds more like the work of the devil, not a loving god. what gives?
@@dorian2112 Hmmm, well if God said that He created specific animals (not all animals) for food, then it wouldn't make much sense to say eating livestock is "ungodly" if it was God's idea in the first place, would it? And again, if Jesus Christ sacrificed an animal and fed meat to hungry human beings, how do you justify those acts as "ungodly" to a sinless deity? Furthermore, I have never encountered the concept that feeding yourself and family to avoid starvation is catagorized as selfish. Are you saying that it is better to starve your family to let a cow live out his days so that PETA won't accuse you of selfishness? And I'm not sure what culture you come from where you think livestock has to be tortured before a slaughter. I've slaughtered countless wild game and poultry, none of which required torture. I've never seen a live goat burnt to a stake or raked over hot coals and I really challange your claims that you've seen it either. Finally, I would suggest that it is quite apparent that you need a book to show you the difference between right and wrong if your conscience deceives you into believing that humans should suffer in favor of animal welfare, and human significance should be down-graded to the level of chickens and ducks. That sounds like a perspective the devil would really enjoy.
"Listen, if you die, you're dead. That's how that works." One of the greatest quotes from Dave.
Up there with: People die when they are killed!
Just made my final credit card payment to bring my balance to 0! Thanks Dave
Congrats!!! :D
That's fantastic!
Congratulations David!
Awesome!! As the wise black man once said " Free at laaaaaaaast . free at laaaaast. Thank Gooooood almighty Free at LAAAAAAAST"
What was it before?
22yo and paid off 7k on my car from the 11k i saved, now debt free and saving heavy for a home, thanks for the mindset
RandomChannelRandomThings wow your young and saved money! good for youuuu
I thoroughly appreciate your brutal honesty! You make me laugh so heartily.
"The Gospel is not a fire insurance policy for the next world, but a life assurance policy for this world." ~ Richard Rohr
We carry a high deductible, and keep a car maintenance account of about $1500 so that if anything happens to our 2 cars (one is paid off) we have cash on hand to take care of it... including work or regular maintenance.
Dave Ramsey is too real !!!!
Dave, I had never thought about it this way before.
I still have collision insurance on my Civic even though I paid the loan off because it’s only five years old. I had a $1,000 deductible and after listening to this, I changed it to a $200 deductible. It costs $240/year more for $800 less risk. I didn’t even think about it this way. I can afford the extra $20 a month and would rather not have to fork over $1,000 if I total my car or have to make another claim that I’d normally have to pay a deductible for.
The 1000 you only pay if you are claiming on your own insurance like if you caused a collision and you car was damaged. Or you crashed into Tree.
Nile that’s true but I drive my car for work and have had several near misses, some of which would’ve been my fault. I think a $1,000 deductible when I use my car to make my living is somewhat irresponsible. And I can afford the increased premium.
@@jjb0894 maybe you shouldn't be on the road then if you keep causing near collisions
Nile “If you keep causing near collisions” (not a real thing by the way) maybe you have a problem listening.
Some, not all of them, would’ve been my fault had it resulted in an accident.
I do literally thousands of trips a year and this is seldom the situation but my point of the comment was that Ramsey is right in transferring risk.
I don’t currently have an emergency fund like I definitely should and I could not pay a $1,000 deductible without incurring new debt, which I want to try to avoid.
I'm not from USA so I'm not familiar with these things. is less or higher deductible better for us ? Can you please explain with causes and benefits.
My collision already has a 1k deductible, but my comp is $250. After listening to this yesterday, I actually did contact my insurance agent and asked him how much I'd save if I raised the comp deductible for my three vehicles to 1k as well, and he came back with... about $64 a year. He added that comp usually doesn't change much, but changing your collision deductible could result in much bigger changes.
caedeer I’ve looked at raising collision to 1000 deductible vs 500, but there wasn’t very much of a difference. I decided to keep it at 500
I'm not from USA so I'm not familiar with these things. is less or higher deductible better for us ? Can you please explain with causes and benefits.
I totally agree with you sir about the dogs and how much they mean to us. I proudly tell you that I unashamedly cry like a little girl for a long time when any of my dogs dies. I do that even though I know they are pending the passing. When they go, an emptiness is left in my heart. It hurts for a long time. Well, at least until I get another dog, which usually is not very long at all. I really like dogs and their companionship. Praise God!
Dave Ramsey has a Shih Tzu?! That is so sweet, I hope it has a bow and everything :)
You dont Chemotherapy for your parakeet lol , I'm dying here with the truth mr dave lol
Thank you Dave!!! I grew up with cats dogs guinea pigs and more! Pets get sick, hurt and die. Morn them with photos and memories only.
Omg I feel bad for laughing at the pets part lol
That was funny, and we have a cat 🐈 🤣
Haha cat lover here and I laughed so hard!
Been living in poverty for the last 10 years started with 140k in debt making 42k in the beginning, now making 65k a year and down to 63k in debt but still feels hopeless like it will never end so depressing..
@johnb382s keep it up! Many people with student loans that size are deeper in student loan debt because they make the minimum payments. You're an inspiration you're over halfway there!
johnb382s , the LAST MILE, is the hardest and longest in any venture!
Have you reduced all your spending down to as little as possible? For example, how much are you spending on groceries and for how many? Do you have a budget? Where does most of your money go? I recommend the following TH-cam channels: ChooseFI and Our Rich Journey.
You'll make it! Look how far you've come
You're making progress!!! I hope you get a break so you can just kill that debt.
Thank you for putting this into a smaller video!! I need my husband to listen to this.
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Totally agree on pets. I love my animals but when they get to a point where they are sick and dyeing it is more humane to put them down.
One of my friends didn't have health insurance and now he's 20k in debt. It would have been way cheaper to buy health insurance before.
Exactly not spending all that on a dog
Dave bringing those hard truths! Great thoughts Dave!
This is defiantly one of the biggest issues young individuals have with their money. I know this because I am a college student and I see it all the time. Young people have this idea that nothing can go wrong for them, they are young and will bounce back quickly. However more likely than not something will happen. And when it does if one is not prepared there is a road of hurt ahead. Preparation is so important.
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The realest advice ever!
Could you talk about dental insurance and if it is worth it? I have a lot of problems with my teeth/gums and am not sure if I should get it. I do have a savings fund for dental in the meanwhile. I am a senior on Medicare.
Dental insurance is usually cheap. But doesn't have as much coverage. It probably depends on your state. But for example mine was 25$/month, I paid 135/filling instead of 250. But it's not the same as normal insurance. My root canal was still over 1k, but still discounted. Shop around see what is there in your area. Shop different dentist offices too for the best deals.
Hmmm...makes so much sense. I hv a 1k deductible on my car insurance...gonna call to see how the numbers change if I raise it to 2k.
I don't think anyone is ever really ready for those blind spots. I have been working on step two, but if the husband isn't on board, I am wondering if I will EVER be out of debt. As I am sure people make mistakes, I have my first $1K in savings, but now due to another murphy's laws event we owe more than $5400 on a debt and its due by Feb 9th, its impossible to not have further debt pile up. I don't even have my first credit card paid off as murphy's law keeps coming up. I may as well just keep stockpiling into the emergency fund till I reach the $10K mark before starting on step 2! UGH.
$5400 for what? Yea if your not both on board it's really tough.
@@markg999 My husband did taxes last year and made a huge mistake on it.
Sounds like this year it might be worth the $100 to have someone do the taxes for you.
Also without your husband on board you are trying to fill in a hole while your husband could still be digging out the bottom. Unless your desire to be out of debt is strong than his desire to spend money then your never going to win with money, even then your progress will be very slow because your fighting over the shovel.
@@lydialukes522 No disagreement here. I can't change my husband but he wants too much all at once. Taxes are filed jointly. Takes more than 100 dollars to have them done by someone else here.
I spent 4K to keep my dog alive, thts my best friend and Idk where I would be without him that’s the only living being whos had my back including my own family
I'm with you Dave cats aren't for me either and I LOVE MY DOG but 10 g's absolutely not... However I do pay cash to keep him up to date on all health preventatives
"For sure" 🤣🤣🤣
Insurance = betting that I will lose. I try to pick the winning lottery numbers ... not the losing ones.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA CHEMO ON YOUR PARAKEET! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
The cancer insurance is not a bad idea. I'm a teacher and have watched several teachers suffer because our health insurance will not cover cancer treatments. It's not just a gimmick, I've seen our heartless insurance companies look at women battling cancer and deny them treatment.
Its not the same but I have phone insurance lol my phone just cost me 1350 bucks sooo yea if I drop and break it I get one the very next day overnight!
One person here on youtube called his pet insurance “marriage insurance”because his wife would want to do everything possible to save the pets and it would be a problem in their marriage if he didn’t want to spend the money to save the pet.
That's just stupid!!
@@jimroscovius I agree with you 🤣
I don't think I'd spend $10k to keep me alive.
$10,000 to keep you dog alive is interesting. I just put $4k to get my dog knee surgery. If it was $10k I probably wouldn't have done it. If she was older (she was 4 at the time) I wouldn't have put the $4k on her.... Makes me think and wonder what the cost\value association is.
@C B now talk about needing to look into spiritual out look Jesus is real a proper investigation and that's that the rest is a beautiful journey
So you would be better off with pet insurance since it would save you half the money at 4yr age since it costs like $55/month. But as dogs get older, it’s not worth it.
I would’ve took 20 bucks to terminate it for you
Thanks my healthcare is 60 a week from my pay ck I was going to stop it to have more cash lol I guess I will keep it
DO NOT go without health insurance, EVER!!! Even you you go with the $50 a month $10,000 deductible shitplan, you get massive discounts at the hospital just for having insurance, because the hospitals have special deals with the insurance companies. Lets say you get hit by a car tomorrow and have a bunch of broken bones and a punctured lung. The discounts you get from the shitplan could easily take your cost from $100k without insurance down to $20k, even if the insurance company doesn't actually pay anything.
Also of course you get fined by the IRS if you don't have health insurance (thanks Obama).
The worst pets are human !!!
If you have a watchdog it's a business expense. Even a therapy dog can be if it's part of your business
Dog math is real 😅 I love my dog but ……. Math
I don’t think Dave would spend $500 keeping a cat alive 😂
3of11 not a chance.
But truth be told neither would I lol. Not a cat person ha
But but but Dave. If I bought all of the insurance you said to get. Life... Long term disability... Renters. ECT. I couldn't afford to live. I make $11 he 34 hrs a week.
He'd tell you to work more and/or upgrade your job. :P also life and renters are both under 20$.
insurance is a scam but one needs it ..1871 cats are the best as a Tennessee hot-rod guy it how you get them n how you interact with them just like say a teenage son be off n ignore expect the same .
i love my pets as well and it hurts when they hurt and die but yes it's realistic and practical to just let them go instead prolong the agony.
Agree on the cell phone insurance
cats and dogs hi 5'ed each other when Dave Filed Bankruptcy :P
I've been hearing about burial insurance lately. Anyone familiar with it?
Yeah, just get life insurance instead and use some of the money to pay for a burial. Or throw the body in a ditch and use the money to go to Maui for a month. It's not like they care, they're dead.
Insurance? Life insurance covers that if you buy the right amount. Or you can prepay your funeral (if you know you've settled where you'll be the rest of your life).
Renters insurance is CHEAP
Some are covered by VA service connected disability.
in theory....
In my opinion Dave is usually right on with personal finance. But I can't get behind him about economical finance. His perspectives are a little limited in that area imo.
When you earn half as much as he does let us know
BREAKING NEWS: DAVE RAMSEY GIVES HIS SHITZUS CUPS OF COFFEE.
I Agree on pets. Sorry, my limit is $200.00
dave how can u read my mind on offence and defence =\
He burp lol
For people who can't afford insurance it's a matter of going bankrupt now and not being able to pay for the essentials (rent, food, gas for work) or possibly something happening and getting into astronomical debt later. Either way it's a lose lose for those people. Once again Dave shows his ignorance towards the struggling lower and middle class.
So, do you have a solution that's better than Dave's insurance recommendations, or did you just want to complain about the existence of struggling poor people?
How much is an appropriate amount to spend to keep a dog alive? Obviously without going into debt or financial distress.
I can’t put my finger on it but there is just something weird about Dave, I could be wrong here. Anyone out there agree?
LOL
wouldn't spent 10k on fixing your dog :(
I know! I love Dave, and I can understand that mindset if you're in debt with no money, but Dave is a multi-millionaire. $10,000 at that point is nothing to save a dog.
I think part of the mindset of that is that if it takes 10k to fix the dog (Or any pet for that matter) how much is the dog going to be suffering or how much longer is the animal going to live even with the surgery, procedure, or whatever costs that much.
Would you spend 10k to keep a dog only one week longer than letting the dog rest in peace and pain free??
@@lydialukes522 No, but that's not how he phrased it. He said he wouldn't, ever, spend $10,000 to save a dog. If it took $10,000 to save my dog for another few years, I'd do it. Assuming, of course, that they wouldn't have to suffer through that time.
@Lydia Lukes I agree about not prolonging for a short period of time especially if it was detriment to the dogs health but 10k to Dave has gotta be a few days interest with his sort of money. If it kept his dog living another year and did no further damage then what is the harm there?
My issue with spending lots of money on pets is that there are humans who aren’t getting procedures because resources are low (money and doctors). I’d much rather a doctors time and that amount of money be spent on a human.
But it's a dog...
I’m getting pet insurance because the vet costs
THIS truly showed how "godly" DR is. he eats and wears animals so it is no wonder why he would not spend money to save an animal at that expense when it is needed. how holy is it to support the abuse, neglect, torture and slaughter of "Gods" creatures for a selfish meal when it is completely unnecessary? "Thou Shalt Not Kill" does not have an **** then says (besides animals.) why do religious people and their church host BBQ fundraisers with the corpses of Gods animals? how is this a good thing? i love his financial advice mostly but not the animal outlook. they are also living and have emotions too, ALL of them, what happened to just being nice to animals? is it really that big of a deal to be nice?
It isn't godly to support abuse or torture of animals. It is godly to support slaughter of animals for human consumption or for historicly mandated sacrifices for the accountability of sin. In some cases it is godly to support neglect of animals when human safety is at risk. The ** does exist in Genesis 9:3, Leviticus 11, Deutoronomy 14. In fact in Leviticus 6:26, God requires priests to eats burnt offerings. One point Jesus proved when he provided fish to the multitudes, and when he took a sacrificed lamb to the Temple, is that human life is the central focus of His agenda, while as Genesis 1:26 emphisizes, humans have dominion over animals. I don't see where Dave is out of line denying the extended life of an animal if human family well-being suffers as a result. What if you need that money for the medical expenses of your spouse, parent, or child in the future for example? I'll go out on a limb and say you will be hard-pressed to find a theologian who agrees with your assessment that scripture elevates animal privileges to that of humans.
@@cristelahopkins447 in your words >>
"It isn't godly to support abuse or torture of animals. It is godly to support slaughter of animals for human consumption or for historicly mandated sacrifices for the accountability of sin." if it is not "godly" to abuse, then what do you call slaughter, kinda godly?" when humans eat and wear animals that is only for selfish reasons, it is not neceassary. traditon is not always a good thing, slavery, sexism etc, it is ok to be the change or make change. humans do have the right to protect themselves, but when you go out of your way to kill or cause harm to them for selfish reasons who is there for them? why when people refer to the bible as having dominion it always resorts to their abuse? why not care of them instead? again, pathetic traditions. the lamb was not sacrificed, she was forced to be killed, why jump all around their torture to make yourself feel ok about taking another innocent life? it is not about elevating anyones priveleges, it is just about being nice and not causing or supporting unnecessary harm to others. i do not need a book to tell me what goes against my beliefs to accept that it is ok to slaughter animals, it is called having a conscious. all you described sounds more like the work of the devil, not a loving god. what gives?
@@dorian2112 Hmmm, well if God said that He created specific animals (not all animals) for food, then it wouldn't make much sense to say eating livestock is "ungodly" if it was God's idea in the first place, would it? And again, if Jesus Christ sacrificed an animal and fed meat to hungry human beings, how do you justify those acts as "ungodly" to a sinless deity? Furthermore, I have never encountered the concept that feeding yourself and family to avoid starvation is catagorized as selfish. Are you saying that it is better to starve your family to let a cow live out his days so that PETA won't accuse you of selfishness? And I'm not sure what culture you come from where you think livestock has to be tortured before a slaughter. I've slaughtered countless wild game and poultry, none of which required torture. I've never seen a live goat burnt to a stake or raked over hot coals and I really challange your claims that you've seen it either. Finally, I would suggest that it is quite apparent that you need a book to show you the difference between right and wrong if your conscience deceives you into believing that humans should suffer in favor of animal welfare, and human significance should be down-graded to the level of chickens and ducks. That sounds like a perspective the devil would really enjoy.
We are of a species that can sustain herbivorism. No need to feed your face with a fellow earthling because your text says it's okay.