SUCH A GREAT VIDEO , J…you hit the nail straight on its head : the game doesn’t have age restrictions…+ rng (heavily into the gambling territory) = it’s SO ILLEGAL
Not really true. It does not count as gambling since it is not a spend money - win money situation. Additionally, due to practically any game with in-game purchases not being restricted (as they shouldn't) I doubt anything will be done. I can only see damage being done through this not good . Getting the game restricted or taken off the app store would blow up in our faces.
Watched the video in full , brother. ABSOLUTELY 100% agree with you . This video has SUCH a HUGE value . Side note here …it has to be said : we , the community, allow this to happen. By not grouping up and take a stand . Sadly this is generally behavior in any games out there . Leading into this new ‘era’ of games / patches being brought out (with no shame ) which are : alpha level AT BEST
Thanks bro,, Hope they understand to help community to continue playing this game for long time, because we really love top war ( 2 years since i started )
i absolutely stand with you, i have been frustrated with the way they handling the game and turning it slowly into casino style over time. especially this year it gotten even worse.
I am a low spender, and from the beginning I have always made purchases where the RNG was not present, but today it is almost impossible to invest a single euro without it being for a spin, a roll dice, or any other lottery... As long as there are items, talents, equipment that a F2P or a low spender cannot get in the game, the game will be unballanced. A whale must be able to buy time and/or progress and not advantages unattainable for the vast majority of players. A game that doesn't listen to its community is doomed to die.. Tx for giving voice to many of the things that some of us think.
Thank you 🙏 for the support and we will continue to ensure fair gameplay for all players and spenders can only accelerate time and strength of the heros and decorations and all items offered. As stated by the developers themselves they want to ensure fairness and balance. So this will help Rubes and the others to ensure it happens
I agree 100%. The first $400,000 spent was fun, I absolutely can’t stand spending money on this game anymore. I can’t get titan gear that I want, I can’t get the chips that I want and I can’t get the hidden 2% def, 2% damage and 2% ATK decor that I want. I’m almost an 80m with lvl 4/5 decor and es 7 everything but someone that gets lucky on titan gear for $50 gets a 40% damage + suddenly beats my $10,000+ decors. It’s unconscionable how ridiculous this game has gotten. The power and victories are more RNG today than ever before and it has to stop. 2216 here.
A guy who start 10 months ago, already have higher stats than old players… that’s why they do this.. for the new players.. first game I saw this happen
@@sergio6086 Exaclty. This is the only game I know where people in conflict zones have accounts 5x stronger than 3-4yr old total war accounts. Other than spending $1,000,000’s I don’t know how it’s possible to make up for that much time missed. In the old days you had to wait for events, decor, hero’s, packages and skills to cycle around to purchase no matter what. Now the newer servers get access to anything they want so long as they’re willing to spend big money while being protected by zones. It’s so obscure in these games and absurd it’s asinine.
I have an account on 2140 and let me told you thr I have better stats thn my main account thts not worth that I have the best decors on the new account and not on my old one
@@Sil3nt_R3ap3r "I don't know how they can make uo that much time missed" Easy, the game gives more stuff to new servers, to allow them to compete on even ground against older servers. It's now two time faster to complete the class tech tree. And now we get for free 2 cores/day and 10/month instead of 2/d when cores got released. So TW as a whole get free cores faster by 1/6 (70/month vs 60/month) It also has the effect of devaluing the stuff you previously purchased (you accelerated cores at the previous rate but now you compete against the new one) Like transfer tickets, that's how TW forces medium spenders to continue spending in order to maintain their status (aka they monetized the Red Queen Paradox) It also means the F2P community is progressing faster : do you think it is REALLY a coincidence that MM traps get nerfed NOW, right when active F2P MM are finally reaching the morale tree and have now unused research time they can now divert to traps? Whales had access to OP traps for more than a year to use against other whales, and they aren't meant to be used that way by free players. So now they have to be changed, removing the perk that whales purchased one year ago. Something else will replace it, whales will purchase it, F2P will get it later, pinky swear...
I’m no laywer my dear brother , but imagine you go into a supermarkets …wanna buy some apples ..pay for the pack …with a ‘small’ difference; there may be NO APPLES inside . When this applies to 90% of your products …it’s GAMBLING and NO LONGER a supermarket . There are LAWS FOR THIS
Thank you 🙏 brother. Together we will ensure fair gameplay and NO online gambling in this game we all have been playing for years. We all support Topwar for the gameplay and we dont mind doing direct purchases, but no one in the community is supporting the online gambling aspect that is now becoming the majority of all the events in our game.
And another point , J: Fact is : our “accounts” are the property of the dev company…we do NOT have laws for this …which is: - micro transactions - heavy gambling territory In Europe we , as customers, are NOT protected …there is no law….but we have laws for cigarettes, etc …not for this dangerous behavior
Love the video and the message, but as long as I am playing (almost 2years now) it always had a lot of elements, which classifies as gambling. All the spinning wheels and stuff. I remember telling friends about the game and how crazy it is that it doesn’t have to be labeled as gambling and that I could imagining people getting broke over this game. It’s throughout the game. Buy a pack of something and maybe you get lucky to get something great, with a super low chance… And that’s probably how they are in a gray area. They gonna say you buy this pack and they are so nice to let you maybe get something special. So in the end you buy the pack the chance is just a free goody.
Hello. Thanks for putting this together to make us all aware. I’ve been playing this game for about 9 months and love it and addicted to the game. It’s been my frustration that this game has cost me so much money over 9 months and yet I cannot catch up to higher level players because you have to spend lots of $$ to be significant in this game. I understand that we have the option to buy these crazy packs but what frustrates me is that the drop rates are terrible for what we pay for. I really hope you take this further and fix it legally since they don’t seem to care. Thanks again
Yes brother. We are entering a phase right now , in which , their “beloved “ RNG will SEVERELY backfire on them . This is utter ridiculous…people won’t buy it ANYTHING…lower revenue . There are further topics: 1. Buy ..ye ..sure …BUT FOR WHAT: very limited events , match making is allover the place . 2. I STRONGLY agree ..up a certain amount of sales + their RNG = GAMBLING and there are STRICT LAW RULES for this
Ehmmm... people paid during New World and complained AFTERWARDS that f2p could reach level 100 anyway and that the turbine decor was locked to level 1. Both facts being outright stated ingame and by devs.
I really hope TW fixes this. The gambling environment of this game runs deep. So many people get caught in this trap within this game. Thank you for bringing attention to this subject. It's a deep whole to fall down
Facts brother. And with your support and the support of the whole TW community we will find out if it’s legal and if it’s not then it will be removed immediately
Love the video first time seeing 1 of your videos but I’ll be following and supporting your channel 💪 also an issue that gets me bad about top war is them nerfing hero’s. If it’s within 3 days I understand balance updates but when they do it months later like maximo after I’ve spent hundreds then later nerf more and more until he’s not usable just to force people into spending for new hero’s I think that’s illegal or should be. It’s wrong and shouldn’t be allowed to convince everyone to spend all that money on new good hero’s then months later nerf that hero to the ground to force new hero’s on players that’s so wrong it’s sad
love the video, straight on point been playing the game for just under a year and the pressure to keep spending is unbelievable! im vip 12 and nowhere near competitive! keep up with good work brother all the best !!
I really like your viewpoint here. I'm a f2p to mild spender (VIP 5 after 8 months of play), who picks and chooses what to buy and why. I like the grinding aspect of the game, it gives me a reason to login daily and interact with people and ensure that I'm participating everywhere. The gambling and spending aspect is something I worry about for my own child...we use all the parental blocks as possible, but he is 9 and so making him understand how to spend money is a constant battle so when games like this continue to push spending in the fashion you have shown it's a major concern for me personally.
It is a major concern for our whole community brother. That is why we need everyone to write to the game support team and ask “ how can I participate in all events without spending money “ ? Then how can I participate in the spend only events to get the rewards I want without risking a financial loss and not receiving the highest rewards offered ?
I am behind you bro, this is just pure disgusting tactics. I've contacted rivergame several times, complaint with this chance factor and absolutely ridiculous prices across the board just to be ignored and pushed to the side 😢 It's so wrong on so many levels. They do what they do best. Ignoring the very people they're here to serve! Keep it up legend ❤
@justmegaming1169 we must! Just FYI I only received 2 legendary boxes out of 30 blue ones! The worst yet result in my playing experience of deep sea hunting event 😢 😕 😞 😪 it really makes you to think about quitting their f..... game and go elsewhere 😮💨
Thanks man, your absolutely right for every single word About this decoration i spend money one time to get it, but i received 50 gems.. So i realise there is no any chance (gambling).. 😤
Nice video. You are 100% right. Yes at least give free to play player a 1% luck at least. They have events over events. Gambling is bad. Yes Chinese law prohibited online gambling. That a reason why some big players are quitting. mvb stopped, others will stop also. You are helping them realise the mistake because they crumble for real. Before it's to late and they see their game destroyed.
Agree 100%, I'm a very small spender, would prefer to be F2P. This game has so much that we can't get as a free player, you can't compete with whales or even the moderate spender, I'll never be able to beat a Whale or even a same CP that has bought a couple of big upgrades. F2P have no chances of winning ever.
Yeah, that's what P2W is. I am a F2P since 3 years and knew in one week that it was a P2W game. I am surprised that the spenders only wonder NOW what happens when the gameplay loop is maxed out, and not... when they spent.
Very good video and long overdue. Players need to call out TOP WAR on this extortion. The game has turned into a scam. I have complained many times about the ATROCIOUS drop rates for the past few months and have conveyed the same in all their surveys that they come out with from time to time. But they are too arrogant to take note of players who don't spend as much. Perhaps the 2nd G.I Joe collab event has been postponed because Hasbro has taken them to task. I hope that is the case. We as players need to unite and take a stand. Then let's see how their bottom-lines turn out.
Facts !!! Thank you for the support brother and contact Hasbro and make them aware how Topwar is using thier brand name to lure kids into a gambling addiction. With everyone’s support we will get this removed from our game
This is the harsh truth very well said all truth about this stupid money extortion game I’ve been going back and forth more then a week with support explaining a pack that I bought was not delivered and money was deducted and the support is so ignorant asking to send all my purchase history again and again and no resolution simply saying the pack was delivered
Facts brother. Receiving our money is never a issue and now they are giving all of us a CHANCE to receive the rewards offered or a very small reward with no value at all
Great Video JustMe. TBH though, I don't believe TopWar aka River Games will heed this warning. I've been watching this game just continue to slide down the pay to play pathway. To this day, I don't really have many good HT chips as it continues to rely on the RNG for the opening of boxes and the chip overclocking and of course it just got worse with the Titan gear. River games is drunk w/ Money and the only way to really make them make change is to hit them in their wallet - you know the one thats getting huge from continually taking from the shrinking wallets of their players...
Thank you for the support brother. I agree with you TopWar has been ignoring the community so that is why this time we have contacted the proper agencies in China and in all the other countries the players are located in. They won’t be able to ignore their questions. With the support of the whole community and everyone contacting their local agencies about how Topwar is now a online casino 🎰 platform will help to ensure the game will be about fair gameplay and no gambling will be tolerated for this game of all age players.
@@justmegaming1169 See what really concerns me - Given what we know about Communist China - how do we know that if we went to them and said "hey! Top war is becoming online gambling w/ these exobident asking prices with next to no returns" that the Chinese goverenment won't just say - "oh hey, give me a cut and you can do whatever you want..." That thought just annoys me
**** Since we all can't stick together then here is another intersting idea. I am know there are several players who are Lawyers. We can try & ask around & ask if one would be willing to help by starting a Class Action Lawsuit against them. Just filing alone would get there attention big time. I know it would be a lot to ask of someone but I feel it is worth a try. If I was a lawyer I would help. I am a computer programmer & spent time & made some spreadsheets with stats that could help players & gave to T-Me to distribure. You made this Channel, T-Me made his, so others have already contributed to the game. I will forward the link of this Video to the person I spoke to & doubt it will do anything but will try. This needs to end once & for all, especially with the insanity of Randomness with Titan Gear, Heavy Troopers!!!!
This game is more like a huge shopping mall; alliance store, island store, legion store, decor store, decor pack store...etc I'm F2P my dream is to get Amelia or pulse jammer. Everything must be available for free and with money you can buy time and get it faster, not things are Execlusive for payers. Has anyone noticed that the game rate at Google play store now is 2.7 ?!
Equipment, components and mastery came with time. I buy a decor or skill box, anything more than the basic is a bonus but the basic return is still useful and has the same effect. Small and mid spending players used to be able to compete and be useful by smart play and wise choices, you couldn't do everything but you could still be relevant. Titan gear and Heavy Trooper boxes, only gold items are worth anything. And these gimmicks have now become highly expensive and offer game breaking benefits, all through chance. "The more I spend the luckier I get". It's not just milking the whales (a thing that usually happens when a game is running out of ideas and they want to cash it out), I'm seeing previously small players going up to VIP 13 or 14 in a few months, they must be pumping in thousands chasing gold chips and gear. Also, Mech Master was a solid choice for smaller players to still be useful, but now we're seeing duration of mucus and magnets reduced and Warbeast negating towers with no compensation.
Facts brother. This is why we need the whole community to reach out to topwar support to bring these numbers to not only Topwar executives but also have that data recorded for the record and get the gambling 🎰 drop rates removed from the game
We are reaching out to any lawyers in all countries to help with advice regarding this. I will be contacting a lawyer in China when im in Asia next month and see what they think. And then update everyone as we progress.
***** Amen !!!! BUTTTT all this insanity is our fault!! We keep complaining (justifyably) but then literally same moment go back & keep spending. I am guilty as charged too! I admit I am very addicted to the game & have spent over $175,000 which is nothing in comparison to top players like Take, Dosar, Ken, etc who literally have spent over 1-2 Million $$ There genius is the addiction factor of the game. Like giving us heroin. So the last thing Rivergames cares about is Ethics. But I feel if everyone would actually stick together, I know I would, & ALL of us stop ALL spending they would have NO choice to finally listen. I actually tried to speak to the CEO, he would not talk to me but I had a 1 hr phone call with someone from Rivergames explaining lots of issues, which I am sure many have already stated.
If found guilty we would all be eligible for full refunds. This is why I’m adamant about pursuing this matter to be stopped and all the players compensated for the financial losses of this illegal gambling scandal hidden in the game now.
totally agree , top war is just saying they are balancing the game, while in the same time they put more gambling, and suck more money of us... I would also add that odds are rigged, I play on few accounts and for some events that offer chance to get somethign, order of getting things from boxes is the same on all my accounts! this is rigged! it should be fair odd chances, not based on queue of getting the item you want! I also play 3 years!
@@justmegaming1169 you can count on me with that, like you I like to play the game, and I met a lot of people on the way, I also see good things top war is doing, they should do more things like the Decor Sets store, you can get decors cheap way, and you know what you are buying without drop rates etc., they should do more stuff like that rather than those magical drop rates events!
The price of everything in this game is outrageous I've spent to reach VIP 8 and got virtually nowhere for it . All the chance boxes only give bare minimum rewards so I don't do them anymore the odds are way to low . But as long as ppl throw money into the game they will keep charging and giving less and less to keep that spending rolling the only way to stop this is stand together as a community and stop spending but I can't see that happening. The only way they could balance this game is to stop SVS and have VIP based PvP then it becomes more of a strategy game and equal. But like I said the more ppl throw money at them the bigger they will make the collection basket so to speak . PS I don't spend at all now totally free to play and when you have a couple of whales in SVS bouncing everyone kinda takes the fun out of playing.
This is what they say they are doing to help make the game fair and be balanced. And look 👀 at all the players commenting. Thank you 🙏 for the support and we will continue to make sure we protect our players and the game
They alltime make this one how many time I will buys packs, if I am regular buying packs that's why Topwar didn't give me anything in small amount or free
We are thinking the same thing brother. And that is why we are asking the devs to remove that element from the game. If they don’t. The proper authorities are being asked if this is legal. Thank for the support
These drop rates and a CHANCE of getting rewards is new to the game since the GiJoe event and needs to be removed immediately from the game. Thank you 🙏 for the support and together we will get these gambling events removed
I'm from Argentina and I was able to reach vip 7, but now our country economy si a disaster, i can Buy anymore, i look at the prices Now ,and think two hundred whale players can Buy me a house just donating like 5 a month lol, but Now I would love to have some refund for account termination
Make the newer stuff better than the old stuff keep people spending and spending, ftp and low spending dont have any fun anymore your killing your smaller customers, but then i guess your fine with this. Your explanation of what you are buying is regularly tenuous at best
Everyone spends on entertainment no matter what form of entertainment we chose. But none of us chose to participate in this new Topwar online casino experience. Together we will get these gambling events removed from the game.
It would be good if the most important servers in this game were organized and set a date so that they would stop spending for 1 or several days, and thus demonstrate unity.
@@bestia-ud2ls facts but 1st we need to unite the community so things like that can be organized and implemented. This is why your support is so important and we need the support of everyone in our community
You can totally quit. Paying to bribe the devs isn't an investment. Sorry for your loss, but you must consider that money is GONE. Its just shiny meaningless numbers on an app. Somebody needs to tell it to you but : nothing forces you to pay. You can stay f2p.
It’s a form of entertainment we enjoy and have been enjoying for years. Changing our gaming culture and gameplay experience to an online casino 🎰 is what we won’t stand for and want removed immediately. Thank you 🙏 for the support and together with our whole community we will get these gambling events removed from our game
Dear brother , I would like to take the defense on RUBES. Cause I know RUBES for 3 and half years. It’s NOT up to rubes. She always forwards the feedback …but there is a dev layer , supervisors of them , higher supervision on top. We must be radical and call it out : reduce spending so they can hit a wall also . Rubes is in a certain department…which is parallel to the dev team. Rubes puts the feedback on table …but 0 influence on the decision.
She is the representative Topwar has chosen to deal with us. So unfortunately she is the one that advises us on what is the best method to enjoy the game and ensure fairness and balance. If she is aware the company is doing something illegal and yet choses NOT to make us aware. The responsibility is on her and her company. Im aware this puts Rubes in a tough situation but if your boss asks you to do something illegal and your aware it’s illegal then YES she is also guilty.
@@justmegaming1169 I feel you are absolutely correct. She is the one making the public statements and largely directing Discord including posting company lies and deceit
@@youstubers5722 that is a fact my brother. And now that she is aware this activity maybe illegal it’s on her to ensure she is NOT breaking any laws even when directed to do so by her boss.
No offense But are the VIP14+ players living with us on the same planet ? No economic crisis ? Wars ? Okay what about materialistic real life things, new TV or Car ? Don't they like to spend time traveling ? Yacht ? Own business, Start your own business or improve it ? I see a huge number of VIP16 players, do they all have a golden duck? I once met a VIP16 player at Real life complaining about how expensive is to go out with his kids for 100$, SERIOUSLY!!!! After all of this I know there's a trick but I don't know it yet
Spending money on anything is a choice for everyone and yes everyone has a different amount of money to be spent on entertainment. This topic is about gambling not spending. The average budget will spend XX amount on groceries while the richer person might spend 5X that amount. But imagine going to the grocery store and you spend your same budget for a CHANCE to receive your groceries? There is no protection for the richer person when gambling is involved. Just a great loss but everyone is at equal risk. This is why im so upset to see this gambling environment enter our game.
@@justmegaming1169 Oh, so the issue here is not that RG is taking more and more money out of players, but that whales aren't guaranteed to win if they pay? Phrased that way it sounds weird... If they wanted a smart game, RG would put near-100% chance of first draws then lower the odds with every following draws, to penalize non-strategic spending Btw, your grocery example ALREADY EXISTS with the "mystery box" model :( depressing uh?
@@laplongejunior the issue is not about any one individual player it’s about all of us now having a CHANCE To obtain the item. It’s gambling 🎰 and I don’t think anyone comes to topwar to gamble real money with 0% chance of winning real money. Gambling has no place in the game. That is the problem we talking about here. Me not getting the decoration is the perfect example of what happends when I gamble. I take the risk of getting nothing for my money and this is happening to all of us that spend on the game. And the game offers the free to play players 0% chance to even participate in some of these events. That is the fairness and balance issue of this situation. So yes it effects everyone player of every level in the topwar gaming community
We have been playing this game for many years and built real relationships with our community of players. Topwar taking advantage of this situation is definitely extortion and highly illegal to now have the events become a real online casino for real money. With your support we will have these types of events removed from the game
**** If you are open to talking on the phone I would love that or we can do a Discord Voice chat, & maybe get others to join & come up with a game plan
SUCH A GREAT VIDEO , J…you hit the nail straight on its head : the game doesn’t have age restrictions…+ rng (heavily into the gambling territory) = it’s SO ILLEGAL
Given their ads, by company policy, can't feature actual gameplay, I don't think they care about legality.
@@laplongejuniorthey should be sued by the players imo.
The reason we left the game !
Tbh its so peaceful after leaving the game imo😂
Not really true. It does not count as gambling since it is not a spend money - win money situation. Additionally, due to practically any game with in-game purchases not being restricted (as they shouldn't) I doubt anything will be done. I can only see damage being done through this not good . Getting the game restricted or taken off the app store would blow up in our faces.
Watched the video in full , brother. ABSOLUTELY 100% agree with you . This video has SUCH a HUGE value .
Side note here …it has to be said : we , the community, allow this to happen. By not grouping up and take a stand .
Sadly this is generally behavior in any games out there . Leading into this new ‘era’ of games / patches being brought out (with no shame ) which are : alpha level AT BEST
Yup! The whales simply don't care!
Have you seen their spending in every event? It's crazy.
If everyone stops at once, top war will listen.
Thanks bro,, Hope they understand to help community to continue playing this game for long time, because we really love top war
( 2 years since i started )
Absolutely right and to the point. Really I spent too much but I think about quitting more than anytime before. It is becoming outrageous.
i absolutely stand with you, i have been frustrated with the way they handling the game and turning it slowly into casino style over time. especially this year it gotten even worse.
I am a low spender, and from the beginning I have always made purchases where the RNG was not present, but today it is almost impossible to invest a single euro without it being for a spin, a roll dice, or any other lottery... As long as there are items, talents, equipment that a F2P or a low spender cannot get in the game, the game will be unballanced. A whale must be able to buy time and/or progress and not advantages unattainable for the vast majority of players. A game that doesn't listen to its community is doomed to die.. Tx for giving voice to many of the things that some of us think.
Thank you 🙏 for the support and we will continue to ensure fair gameplay for all players and spenders can only accelerate time and strength of the heros and decorations and all items offered. As stated by the developers themselves they want to ensure fairness and balance. So this will help Rubes and the others to ensure it happens
I agree 100%. The first $400,000 spent was fun, I absolutely can’t stand spending money on this game anymore. I can’t get titan gear that I want, I can’t get the chips that I want and I can’t get the hidden 2% def, 2% damage and 2% ATK decor that I want. I’m almost an 80m with lvl 4/5 decor and es 7 everything but someone that gets lucky on titan gear for $50 gets a 40% damage + suddenly beats my $10,000+ decors. It’s unconscionable how ridiculous this game has gotten. The power and victories are more RNG today than ever before and it has to stop. 2216 here.
A guy who start 10 months ago, already have higher stats than old players… that’s why they do this.. for the new players.. first game I saw this happen
@@sergio6086 Exaclty. This is the only game I know where people in conflict zones have accounts 5x stronger than 3-4yr old total war accounts. Other than spending $1,000,000’s I don’t know how it’s possible to make up for that much time missed. In the old days you had to wait for events, decor, hero’s, packages and skills to cycle around to purchase no matter what. Now the newer servers get access to anything they want so long as they’re willing to spend big money while being protected by zones. It’s so obscure in these games and absurd it’s asinine.
I have an account on 2140 and let me told you thr I have better stats thn my main account thts not worth that I have the best decors on the new account and not on my old one
@@djxander96 yep
@@Sil3nt_R3ap3r
"I don't know how they can make uo that much time missed"
Easy, the game gives more stuff to new servers, to allow them to compete on even ground against older servers.
It's now two time faster to complete the class tech tree. And now we get for free 2 cores/day and 10/month instead of 2/d when cores got released. So TW as a whole get free cores faster by 1/6 (70/month vs 60/month)
It also has the effect of devaluing the stuff you previously purchased (you accelerated cores at the previous rate but now you compete against the new one)
Like transfer tickets, that's how TW forces medium spenders to continue spending in order to maintain their status (aka they monetized the Red Queen Paradox)
It also means the F2P community is progressing faster : do you think it is REALLY a coincidence that MM traps get nerfed NOW, right when active F2P MM are finally reaching the morale tree and have now unused research time they can now divert to traps?
Whales had access to OP traps for more than a year to use against other whales, and they aren't meant to be used that way by free players. So now they have to be changed, removing the perk that whales purchased one year ago. Something else will replace it, whales will purchase it, F2P will get it later, pinky swear...
I’m no laywer my dear brother , but imagine you go into a supermarkets …wanna buy some apples ..pay for the pack …with a ‘small’ difference; there may be NO APPLES inside .
When this applies to 90% of your products …it’s GAMBLING and NO LONGER a supermarket .
There are LAWS FOR THIS
I’m watching the video …and commenting on each topic as this video has A FAR TO GREAT VALUE
Thank you 🙏 brother. Together we will ensure fair gameplay and NO online gambling in this game we all have been playing for years. We all support Topwar for the gameplay and we dont mind doing direct purchases, but no one in the community is supporting the online gambling aspect that is now becoming the majority of all the events in our game.
Exactly what I’ve been trying to say for the past 2 years but I’m not as adept at words as you are 😬👍🏼
And another point , J:
Fact is : our “accounts” are the property of the dev company…we do NOT have laws for this …which is:
- micro transactions
- heavy gambling territory
In Europe we , as customers, are NOT protected …there is no law….but we have laws for cigarettes, etc …not for this dangerous behavior
Not correct. Belgium actually banned lootboxes.
But RG doesn't care about national laws as long nobody reports them.
Love the video and the message, but as long as I am playing (almost 2years now) it always had a lot of elements, which classifies as gambling. All the spinning wheels and stuff. I remember telling friends about the game and how crazy it is that it doesn’t have to be labeled as gambling and that I could imagining people getting broke over this game. It’s throughout the game. Buy a pack of something and maybe you get lucky to get something great, with a super low chance…
And that’s probably how they are in a gray area. They gonna say you buy this pack and they are so nice to let you maybe get something special. So in the end you buy the pack the chance is just a free goody.
And this goes far deeper than just rivergame . This micro transactions. Now they are FORCED to label it : INGAME purchases
Hello. Thanks for putting this together to make us all aware. I’ve been playing this game for about 9 months and love it and addicted to the game. It’s been my frustration that this game has cost me so much money over 9 months and yet I cannot catch up to higher level players because you have to spend lots of $$ to be significant in this game. I understand that we have the option to buy these crazy packs but what frustrates me is that the drop rates are terrible for what we pay for. I really hope you take this further and fix it legally since they don’t seem to care. Thanks again
Thanks 🙏 for the support and we will continue to ensure this gambling aspect is removed from the game
Yes brother. We are entering a phase right now , in which , their “beloved “ RNG will SEVERELY backfire on them .
This is utter ridiculous…people won’t buy it ANYTHING…lower revenue .
There are further topics:
1. Buy ..ye ..sure …BUT FOR WHAT: very limited events , match making is allover the place .
2. I STRONGLY agree ..up a certain amount of sales + their RNG = GAMBLING and there are STRICT LAW RULES for this
Ehmmm... people paid during New World and complained AFTERWARDS that f2p could reach level 100 anyway and that the turbine decor was locked to level 1. Both facts being outright stated ingame and by devs.
Problem is why would they fix anything when everyone continues to spend?
Ud last week was intense! Glad we kept y’all :)
I really hope TW fixes this. The gambling environment of this game runs deep. So many people get caught in this trap within this game. Thank you for bringing attention to this subject. It's a deep whole to fall down
Facts brother. And with your support and the support of the whole TW community we will find out if it’s legal and if it’s not then it will be removed immediately
Server 1303/1302 is with you on this issue. Keep up the good work
Thank you for the support. We need everyone’s support to show our numbers. 🥰
@@justmegaming1169 I am a VIP 15 and VIP 11 account holder
Love the video first time seeing 1 of your videos but I’ll be following and supporting your channel 💪 also an issue that gets me bad about top war is them nerfing hero’s. If it’s within 3 days I understand balance updates but when they do it months later like maximo after I’ve spent hundreds then later nerf more and more until he’s not usable just to force people into spending for new hero’s I think that’s illegal or should be. It’s wrong and shouldn’t be allowed to convince everyone to spend all that money on new good hero’s then months later nerf that hero to the ground to force new hero’s on players that’s so wrong it’s sad
Facts brother. Thank you for the support and with the proper agencies being involved they won’t be able to ignore this issue for much longer.
love the video, straight on point been playing the game for just under a year and the pressure to keep spending is unbelievable! im vip 12 and nowhere near competitive! keep up with good work brother all the best !!
Thank you 🙏 for the support brother Together we will get this gambling 🎰 removed from the game
I really like your viewpoint here. I'm a f2p to mild spender (VIP 5 after 8 months of play), who picks and chooses what to buy and why. I like the grinding aspect of the game, it gives me a reason to login daily and interact with people and ensure that I'm participating everywhere. The gambling and spending aspect is something I worry about for my own child...we use all the parental blocks as possible, but he is 9 and so making him understand how to spend money is a constant battle so when games like this continue to push spending in the fashion you have shown it's a major concern for me personally.
It is a major concern for our whole community brother. That is why we need everyone to write to the game support team and ask “ how can I participate in all events without spending money “ ? Then how can I participate in the spend only events to get the rewards I want without risking a financial loss and not receiving the highest rewards offered ?
Completamente de acuerdo, la comunidad tiene que unirse y hacer algo al respecto
You guys just amazing. Timmy including. This video is the feeling we all poses. Thank you Sir, I respect you 🙏
Totally agree with you from server 1248
Thank you 🙏 for the support and we need the support of the whole community to ensure these types of gambling 🎰 events are removed immediately
I have a f2p account I understand how tw kinda is it's a shame 😢 love your content thanks just me gaming appreciate everything❤😊
I am behind you bro, this is just pure disgusting tactics. I've contacted rivergame several times, complaint with this chance factor and absolutely ridiculous prices across the board just to be ignored and pushed to the side 😢
It's so wrong on so many levels. They do what they do best. Ignoring the very people they're here to serve! Keep it up legend ❤
Thank you 🙏 brother. With your support we will get this gambling aspect removed from the game
@justmegaming1169 we must! Just FYI I only received 2 legendary boxes out of 30 blue ones! The worst yet result in my playing experience of deep sea hunting event 😢 😕 😞 😪 it really makes you to think about quitting their f..... game and go elsewhere 😮💨
Thanks man, your absolutely right for every single word
About this decoration i spend money one time to get it, but i received 50 gems.. So i realise there is no any chance (gambling).. 😤
Facts brother. With your support we will get this drop rate ( gambling ) aspect removed from the game
Nice video. You are 100% right. Yes at least give free to play player a 1% luck at least.
They have events over events. Gambling is bad. Yes Chinese law prohibited online gambling.
That a reason why some big players are quitting. mvb stopped, others will stop also.
You are helping them realise the mistake because they crumble for real. Before it's to late and they see their game destroyed.
Facts brother. Thank you 🙏 for the support and together we will get these drop rates removed
Such a great video, hope every player in this game relize this "casino gambling" Thing 😢
Facts so we can get this drop rate and Luck aspect removed from the game
Agree 100%, I'm a very small spender, would prefer to be F2P. This game has so much that we can't get as a free player, you can't compete with whales or even the moderate spender, I'll never be able to beat a Whale or even a same CP that has bought a couple of big upgrades. F2P have no chances of winning ever.
Yeah, that's what P2W is. I am a F2P since 3 years and knew in one week that it was a P2W game. I am surprised that the spenders only wonder NOW what happens when the gameplay loop is maxed out, and not... when they spent.
Very good video and long overdue. Players need to call out TOP WAR on this extortion. The game has turned into a scam. I have complained many times about the ATROCIOUS drop rates for the past few months and have conveyed the same in all their surveys that they come out with from time to time. But they are too arrogant to take note of players who don't spend as much. Perhaps the 2nd G.I Joe collab event has been postponed because Hasbro has taken them to task. I hope that is the case. We as players need to unite and take a stand. Then let's see how their bottom-lines turn out.
Facts !!! Thank you for the support brother and contact Hasbro and make them aware how Topwar is using thier brand name to lure kids into a gambling addiction. With everyone’s support we will get this removed from our game
This is the harsh truth very well said all truth about this stupid money extortion game I’ve been going back and forth more then a week with support explaining a pack that I bought was not delivered and money was deducted and the support is so ignorant asking to send all my purchase history again and again and no resolution simply saying the pack was delivered
Facts brother. Receiving our money is never a issue and now they are giving all of us a CHANCE to receive the rewards offered or a very small reward with no value at all
Great Video JustMe. TBH though, I don't believe TopWar aka River Games will heed this warning. I've been watching this game just continue to slide down the pay to play pathway. To this day, I don't really have many good HT chips as it continues to rely on the RNG for the opening of boxes and the chip overclocking and of course it just got worse with the Titan gear. River games is drunk w/ Money and the only way to really make them make change is to hit them in their wallet - you know the one thats getting huge from continually taking from the shrinking wallets of their players...
Thank you for the support brother. I agree with you TopWar has been ignoring the community so that is why this time we have contacted the proper agencies in China and in all the other countries the players are located in. They won’t be able to ignore their questions. With the support of the whole community and everyone contacting their local agencies about how Topwar is now a online casino 🎰 platform will help to ensure the game will be about fair gameplay and no gambling will be tolerated for this game of all age players.
@@justmegaming1169 See what really concerns me - Given what we know about Communist China - how do we know that if we went to them and said "hey! Top war is becoming online gambling w/ these exobident asking prices with next to no returns" that the Chinese goverenment won't just say - "oh hey, give me a cut and you can do whatever you want..." That thought just annoys me
**** Since we all can't stick together then here is another intersting idea. I am know there are several players who are Lawyers. We can try & ask around & ask if one would be willing to help by starting a Class Action Lawsuit against them. Just filing alone would get there attention big time. I know it would be a lot to ask of someone but I feel it is worth a try. If I was a lawyer I would help. I am a computer programmer & spent time & made some spreadsheets with stats that could help players & gave to T-Me to distribure. You made this Channel, T-Me made his, so others have already contributed to the game. I will forward the link of this Video to the person I spoke to & doubt it will do anything but will try. This needs to end once & for all, especially with the insanity of Randomness with Titan Gear, Heavy Troopers!!!!
100%. Please msg me and let’s work together. Discord JustMe1805. Email justme.gamingchamp@gmail.com
Yes. This is why I no longer purchase the “chance” items.
we should build a community and build a similar game with no gambling.
This similar game would have no insane amounts of money to spend into marketting
NVM is a game developer and talking about doing this
This game is more like a huge shopping mall; alliance store, island store, legion store, decor store, decor pack store...etc I'm F2P my dream is to get Amelia or pulse jammer. Everything must be available for free and with money you can buy time and get it faster, not things are Execlusive for payers. Has anyone noticed that the game rate at Google play store now is 2.7 ?!
Equipment, components and mastery came with time. I buy a decor or skill box, anything more than the basic is a bonus but the basic return is still useful and has the same effect. Small and mid spending players used to be able to compete and be useful by smart play and wise choices, you couldn't do everything but you could still be relevant.
Titan gear and Heavy Trooper boxes, only gold items are worth anything. And these gimmicks have now become highly expensive and offer game breaking benefits, all through chance. "The more I spend the luckier I get". It's not just milking the whales (a thing that usually happens when a game is running out of ideas and they want to cash it out), I'm seeing previously small players going up to VIP 13 or 14 in a few months, they must be pumping in thousands chasing gold chips and gear.
Also, Mech Master was a solid choice for smaller players to still be useful, but now we're seeing duration of mucus and magnets reduced and Warbeast negating towers with no compensation.
Facts brother. This is why we need the whole community to reach out to topwar support to bring these numbers to not only Topwar executives but also have that data recorded for the record and get the gambling 🎰 drop rates removed from the game
I will happily donate to a transparent fund that is hiring a lawyer to fight this.
Lol me too
We are reaching out to any lawyers in all countries to help with advice regarding this. I will be contacting a lawyer in China when im in Asia next month and see what they think. And then update everyone as we progress.
***** Amen !!!! BUTTTT all this insanity is our fault!! We keep complaining (justifyably) but then literally same moment go back & keep spending. I am guilty as charged too! I admit I am very addicted to the game & have spent over $175,000 which is nothing in comparison to top players like Take, Dosar, Ken, etc who literally have spent over 1-2 Million $$ There genius is the addiction factor of the game. Like giving us heroin. So the last thing Rivergames cares about is Ethics. But I feel if everyone would actually stick together, I know I would, & ALL of us stop ALL spending they would have NO choice to finally listen. I actually tried to speak to the CEO, he would not talk to me but I had a 1 hr phone call with someone from Rivergames explaining lots of issues, which I am sure many have already stated.
If found guilty we would all be eligible for full refunds. This is why I’m adamant about pursuing this matter to be stopped and all the players compensated for the financial losses of this illegal gambling scandal hidden in the game now.
I am with you .. Tw gone greedy much more every day
Facts This is why I need your support and the support of the whole TW community to have these drop rates and gambling 🎰 events removed from the game
I've dropped back to a few dailys a week and Saturday UD. No way to spend enough to enjoy TW so not even trying.
totally agree , top war is just saying they are balancing the game, while in the same time they put more gambling, and suck more money of us... I would also add that odds are rigged, I play on few accounts and for some events that offer chance to get somethign, order of getting things from boxes is the same on all my accounts! this is rigged! it should be fair odd chances, not based on queue of getting the item you want! I also play 3 years!
Facts Together we will get these drop rates removed and thank you 🙏 for the support
@@justmegaming1169 you can count on me with that, like you I like to play the game, and I met a lot of people on the way, I also see good things top war is doing, they should do more things like the Decor Sets store, you can get decors cheap way, and you know what you are buying without drop rates etc., they should do more stuff like that rather than those magical drop rates events!
Agree with you 100%
They have ONLY 4 shareholders. Small ones
The price of everything in this game is outrageous I've spent to reach VIP 8 and got virtually nowhere for it . All the chance boxes only give bare minimum rewards so I don't do them anymore the odds are way to low . But as long as ppl throw money into the game they will keep charging and giving less and less to keep that spending rolling the only way to stop this is stand together as a community and stop spending but I can't see that happening.
The only way they could balance this game is to stop SVS and have VIP based PvP then it becomes more of a strategy game and equal.
But like I said the more ppl throw money at them the bigger they will make the collection basket so to speak .
PS I don't spend at all now totally free to play and when you have a couple of whales in SVS bouncing everyone kinda takes the fun out of playing.
This is what they say they are doing to help make the game fair and be balanced. And look 👀 at all the players commenting. Thank you 🙏 for the support and we will continue to make sure we protect our players and the game
I can't agree more!
Thank you for the support brother. Together we will get these drop rates removed
One more thing I suspect. They have planted accounts who buy stuff like crazy and play on their behalf to woo other players to spend.
Yes I too believe this to be possible but not probable as I know most of the biggest players in the game and have spoken with them
Great video. Stop the casino!
Facts brother. With your support and the support of the whole community we will have these types of gambling 🎰 events removed
The same happened with me, I bought the first 3 packs and didn't get so I let it go. Really 200$ dollars for 4% hp !! No way and I gave up
Same with me, it’s crazy now
Facts brother. These drop rates is 100% gambling and causing a financial loss to many players
They alltime make this one how many time I will buys packs, if I am regular buying packs that's why Topwar didn't give me anything in small amount or free
Facts brother. This is why we need the whole community to support us with comments to show them. This is issue is not wanted by the whole community
im with you boss 🙌
Topwar is a gambling game...period
We are thinking the same thing brother. And that is why we are asking the devs to remove that element from the game. If they don’t. The proper authorities are being asked if this is legal. Thank for the support
I've been saying this.. Top war started a legit online gambling hall.. where the house only wins..
Started? It was always that way. Simply the whales were still winning a bit
These drop rates and a CHANCE of getting rewards is new to the game since the GiJoe event and needs to be removed immediately from the game. Thank you 🙏 for the support and together we will get these gambling events removed
100% agree !
Thank you for the support brother. I won’t stop 🛑 till these drop rates and gambling events are removed from our game
2764 stands with you
Thanks 🙏 for the support 🤗 and together we will get the whole TopWar community together and get these gambling 🎰 events removed
I'm from Argentina and I was able to reach vip 7, but now our country economy si a disaster, i can Buy anymore, i look at the prices Now ,and think two hundred whale players can Buy me a house just donating like 5 a month lol, but Now I would love to have some refund for account termination
If this gambling environment is found to be illegal we will all be seeking refund’s brother.
Thank you !
Thank you 🙏 for the support
topwar taken the fun out n making money.
Facts Kai. Thanks 🙏 for the support and subscribe to stay updated
I agree ,It's too much abuse From TW,
Players should sue this company.
If this is found to be illegal that will be the next step
Make the newer stuff better than the old stuff keep people spending and spending, ftp and low spending dont have any fun anymore your killing your smaller customers, but then i guess your fine with this. Your explanation of what you are buying is regularly tenuous at best
Facts brother. Thanks 🙏 for the support and be sure to set the channel reminder to stay updated on the progress
Why don't we stop spending??????? we are all f2p
People tried that a year ago. Some people still spent and became the new #1 server
Everyone spends on entertainment no matter what form of entertainment we chose. But none of us chose to participate in this new Topwar online casino experience. Together we will get these gambling events removed from the game.
It would be good if the most important servers in this game were organized and set a date so that they would stop spending for 1 or several days, and thus demonstrate unity.
@@bestia-ud2ls facts but 1st we need to unite the community so things like that can be organized and implemented. This is why your support is so important and we need the support of everyone in our community
Can't quit game because of lots of investment in game and they need more and more investment greedy
You can totally quit. Paying to bribe the devs isn't an investment. Sorry for your loss, but you must consider that money is GONE. Its just shiny meaningless numbers on an app.
Somebody needs to tell it to you but : nothing forces you to pay. You can stay f2p.
It’s a form of entertainment we enjoy and have been enjoying for years. Changing our gaming culture and gameplay experience to an online casino 🎰 is what we won’t stand for and want removed immediately. Thank you 🙏 for the support and together with our whole community we will get these gambling events removed from our game
Dear brother , I would like to take the defense on RUBES. Cause I know RUBES for 3 and half years.
It’s NOT up to rubes. She always forwards the feedback …but there is a dev layer , supervisors of them , higher supervision on top.
We must be radical and call it out : reduce spending so they can hit a wall also .
Rubes is in a certain department…which is parallel to the dev team. Rubes puts the feedback on table …but 0 influence on the decision.
She is the representative Topwar has chosen to deal with us. So unfortunately she is the one that advises us on what is the best method to enjoy the game and ensure fairness and balance. If she is aware the company is doing something illegal and yet choses NOT to make us aware. The responsibility is on her and her company. Im aware this puts Rubes in a tough situation but if your boss asks you to do something illegal and your aware it’s illegal then YES she is also guilty.
@@justmegaming1169 I feel you are absolutely correct. She is the one making the public statements and largely directing Discord including posting company lies and deceit
@@youstubers5722 that is a fact my brother. And now that she is aware this activity maybe illegal it’s on her to ensure she is NOT breaking any laws even when directed to do so by her boss.
No offense
But are the VIP14+ players living with us on the same planet ? No economic crisis ? Wars ? Okay what about materialistic real life things, new TV or Car ? Don't they like to spend time traveling ? Yacht ? Own business, Start your own business or improve it ? I see a huge number of VIP16 players, do they all have a golden duck? I once met a VIP16 player at Real life complaining about how expensive is to go out with his kids for 100$, SERIOUSLY!!!!
After all of this I know there's a trick but I don't know it yet
Rich people always want more money. They don't become rich by giving to charities 😅
@@laplongejunior or spending on games
Spending money on anything is a choice for everyone and yes everyone has a different amount of money to be spent on entertainment. This topic is about gambling not spending. The average budget will spend XX amount on groceries while the richer person might spend 5X that amount. But imagine going to the grocery store and you spend your same budget for a CHANCE to receive your groceries? There is no protection for the richer person when gambling is involved. Just a great loss but everyone is at equal risk. This is why im so upset to see this gambling environment enter our game.
@@justmegaming1169
Oh, so the issue here is not that RG is taking more and more money out of players, but that whales aren't guaranteed to win if they pay?
Phrased that way it sounds weird...
If they wanted a smart game, RG would put near-100% chance of first draws then lower the odds with every following draws, to penalize non-strategic spending
Btw, your grocery example ALREADY EXISTS with the "mystery box" model :( depressing uh?
@@laplongejunior the issue is not about any one individual player it’s about all of us now having a CHANCE To obtain the item. It’s gambling 🎰 and I don’t think anyone comes to topwar to gamble real money with 0% chance of winning real money. Gambling has no place in the game. That is the problem we talking about here. Me not getting the decoration is the perfect example of what happends when I gamble. I take the risk of getting nothing for my money and this is happening to all of us that spend on the game. And the game offers the free to play players 0% chance to even participate in some of these events. That is the fairness and balance issue of this situation. So yes it effects everyone player of every level in the topwar gaming community
maybe it is time to leave this game. it is nothing but gambling now.
We have been playing this game for many years and built real relationships with our community of players. Topwar taking advantage of this situation is definitely extortion and highly illegal to now have the events become a real online casino for real money. With your support we will have these types of events removed from the game
**** If you are open to talking on the phone I would love that or we can do a Discord Voice chat, & maybe get others to join & come up with a game plan
100%. Contact me via discord. JustMe1805