Why I went from Software Engineering to Computer Science
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I'm studying CS myself and I can definitely confirm that everything that you mentioned is true. Keep up the good work!
Thank you so much brother! I appreciate it tons!
I switched from Computer Eng to Computer Sci midway because CS offered so many fun electives that the other didn't. Artificial Intelligence, Databases, Machine Learning, Natural Language Processing, Blockchains, Data Mining, Mobile Dev, VideoGame Dev, etc.
I chose CompEng first because I wanted the title of "Engineer". But if at the end I'm gonna work in the same software engineering role, then who the fuck cares about the degree. I'm having fun with my classes, and when I get hired in that software engineering role I can call myself an engineer if I want to.
In CSE you get the engineer title and get your fun
As someone who majored in IT, I fuck with this.
Hell, I'm now a "Senior software engineer" :P
It's this game programming classes where you go in and make your own game engines instead of using unity and gamemaker :P
I currently go to concordia and was looking into one of this two degrees without actually knowing the difference. Thanks a lot for clearing that up for me. I don't think I could have found a more appropriate video! Take care
Bro. Thanks you for making a simple informative video. It took way to long to find someone that wasn’t trying to sell something.
You're amazing dude. Thanks for sharing your perspective.
CS GANGGG!
very informative video, i love how you explain your perspectives! keep up the great content!
Thank you so much broo!! I really appreciate it
Thank you so much bro
My all confusion is ended now
Between choosing software and CS degree
Thanks a lot
Hi, in my country we only have two universities with the computer science major (it´s not well known here). Here Software Engineering (known as systems and coumputing engineering) is more focused to repair computers becasue most of the graduate people don´t know programming and last years of the major are focused on business engineering, IT for companies. The most common job after graduation is work for a traditional company in the maintenance of systems, computers, networks, and sometimes programming (if you have the skill) it is a well paid job.
Everything is so fkn true man. The piece of paper cant decide your future indeed. The video was awesome and informative as always. I also never liked theory classes that much specially when ur learning curve goes diff then uni XD. Amazing work bro 🔥🔥 Keep it up 👊💥
haha thank you brother!!
I think that's a sister lol
Im a Comp Sci student but my program has a focus in S.E cuz it gives me classes like UI/UX and Full Stack Dev.
which university 🤔?
Maths wise , i heard cs had more maths than SOEN .I'm not that good at maths and i don't wanna spend my life just sololy writing codes and that's it .So what do you think ?
This was such a perfect video man, I’m currently deciding what to do
Thank you so much brother!! Good luck!!
If you mind me asking, what did you choose?
@@hamzhehe5062 Computer science
@@WILDFLAME101 this was 2 years ago, if you could go back would you change anything?
@@Memeaic The only thing I would change is that I wish I started on portfolio projects sooner.
I think software engineering should be a specialization, not a undergrad. Firstly, Most companies have their way of developing software, so what matters is experience, not much what you learn reading a book (in regards to software development).
Second, in SE you take classes that are useless in IT jobs, like chemistry and physics for engineers, but those classes are the one that give you the engineer status lol. A proof that you may learn software development processes without needing an SE degree is that there lots of self taugjt coders that work as sofrware engineers that complain only about not having CS knowledge and how it makes them have a harder time on their jobs, but ive never seen a self taught coder or someone with a CS degree complaining that they dont understand software development processes. And last, saying a SE is more complete than a CS grad, is like saying taking a Medical specialization without going through a normal medical grad is" better" as it focuses more in practical stuff. Doesnt make much sense. SE will give you the engineer status but beyond the fact that it literally makes you practice more coding and that, i see no advantage in taking it over CS. Plus, you can practice coding by yourself on CS, but as that takes the responsiblity factor into consideration, ppl are usually afraid of that lol.
I would not consider chemistry and physics as useless since it may not be relevant to software engineering but it would help develop your problem solving skills.
thank you so much this really helped !
thx bro this was really helpful!!!
In Philippines its somewhat weird because we have senior highscool and you are already picking a course and you can only pick between 5 courses which are ICT & Software engineering, ICT & technology, ICT & business, ICT & Media structure, ICT & Infrastructure and you will have to study for 2 years in those courses and then you will still need to take up a Computer and Science degree which will take 4 years studying some programming course and math and science for programming
SE for me but thanks i was confused as they are so similar but the diffs are there
What's the difference between Computer Science and Informatics Engineering? Are those fields related? Let's say I'm applying for a job as a programmer and the requirement says Bachelor's Degree in Computer Science or any related fields. If I have a degree in Informatics Engineering, can I apply?
Any advice I could get since I’m doing computer science in university? Let me know thank you
Most colleges don’t even offer an “software engineering degree.” I always thought of those majors as like more of a certificate. I’m about to finish up community college getting an associates in computer science and where I plan on transferring they have a Computer Science degree with game development track, cyber security track, or data science track. You can specialize in something. I always viewed software engineering as one of these track options.
Hey man I just saw your channel and guess what, my name is Andreh I switched from Software Engi to Comp Sci and I'm in Concordia University as well lmfao. Great video bro, I will be watching your content from now on!
@@alanmichael999 Do what you love no matter the time frame. I changed Mech to Soen to Comp Sci. I was only good at math phyiscs and computers. I didnt know how much I like coding until I did it; Comp sci has a little bit more coding than Soen. Soen has design and eng courses but it all depends on the Uni, No choice is the wrong choice, but take your time in finding what you really love and do just that.
Thank you sooo much dude finally I decided to choose cs☺️
Thank you, well explained
Probably a bit late on the topic, I agree on the general idea, they will both land you that job you want... IF you are ok with spending that extra effort! If you don't want to put that extra effort you are not going anywhere... regardless of the path...
I am a Software Engineer, graduated bachelor and master in software engineering, and at least in my university was not like you said about being assessed on "how much knowledge" you were able to retain...
In my case what make me happy to have followed the engineering part is that they were assessing my ability to deal with problems and design solutions... no matter the technology, no matter the topic.
I like coding, I like technology but what I like the most is solve problems, and I think that engineering stress you out about that capacity. The extra effort needed there is about being more sharp on actual technology and coding...
About being an engineer vs just a software developer? Nahh companies don't care, the world does not care! you need to choose looking at what you mainly like to do!
if u would go back tho, swe or comp sci
thanks mate. im deciding between the two right now and this helped
Which one you chose 🤔??
@@Kamrankhan23333 HAHA Computer science, i don’t regret it
@@MichaelSalton ok that's good 👍
I’m a computer engineering student I still love my major but I’m finding CS more interesting so I don’t know wether I should switch or not because I’m afraid that I will regret it later since CENG have sometimes higher salaries and a little more job opportunities, does anyone have an advice ?
Hey man what was your age when you started these all
this year I will be a Software Engineering student, but not with an engineer degrees, but with a computer Degrees, is it possible to get a lot of job of this major this year? I really worried if some company doesnt accept me just because my major now. Thanks in advance!
Please do a video on computer science degree vs computer programmer degree? Thanks
I also did the same before enrolling in University.
Bro you're in concordia, thats amazing....same
But can you, If possible, provide the better path.....like I know it depends, but which is overall better, pick one if so...
I was looking at SJSU as a potential place to transfer to from my cc, and the CS program was harder to get into. After watching this video I’m surprised. You need at least a 3.8 to even be considered. I believe it’s like a 3.5+ for the SWE program. I’ll just stick with the CS associated-transfer degree
I was looking at the same thing, I need more chem, more bio, and more physics just to transfer to sjsu
I cant tell you enough how damn good true you are ! Realistic truth .
Can I get Software Engineering job after doing Bsc. Csit?
Rn im canceling cs ror software im I doing bad thing????
I am currently studying Communication Eng (a branch of computer system eng), but I am considered switching to CS. I have googled a lot about this and found that the job field I am interested in can be getting into by both degree. Like you and many comments said, studying Eng took more time to study in both my daily life and in school credits. I had to take several courses that involved heavy calculations. While I don’t hate calculation or maybe even like it, If I am being honest I am not that good in math. I mean I can do it if I put lots of effort and time, but while should I do that when I can get into the field of work without having to focus on that or maybe less on that and more time to do something else such as gaining experience on actually coding something. Right now my hands are tided by those unnecessary stuff that I am not that good at it to the point that I might not even need if I switch to CS. Now I am kind of in crisis thinking and making decision. Your video had actually acknowledge that the major different is getting Eng titles vs more flexible electives and more free time to do so and shorter time required to spend on studying. Seems like the pro out weight the con.
I honestly don’t know which one would be less interesting but the more flexibility and shorter time requirements seems to outweight the cons. I just hope that once I have switched I don’t end up regretting it because it turns out to be more boring or more difficult. I don’t usually afraid of difficulty, but I this time I want to make a smarter move before I actually spend more time there struggling and failing lots of courses to the point that it feel like a waste of time if I still keep pushing through Eng when there is a smarter alternative to switch to early on.
I am in the same exact situation and can’t seem to figure out if I should take the decision! Did you switch or are planning on finishing the ENG degree?
@@RA-xx1qq I have sent the transfered application and still waiting for their decision. It will take a while (weeks). I have checked with the university that once they accept me, I still have a chance to either accept it and change to CS or stay in ENG. I guess I still have some times to think.
I am leaning toward switching due to the pros that I have a chance to graduate faster and still get into the same career field. I have some personal urgency and uncertainty that time advantage can make a different. With heavy calculation courses, I am not sure I would be able to pass them without having to re-take them more than once. That would slow down my graduating time.
Which one should i take as my major for being a software or application programmer? Computer science or software engineering?
so which one did u choose?
If I already have a bachelor in science (neuroscience), is it worth it to go for another degree in computer science? or is it better a masters? Im interested in software engineer or data science.
Masters for sure it’ll take you the same amount of time as the bachelors but now it’ll be more valuable
You would need to self study all of the undergrad CS material so you don’t struggle in the masters
I think CS gives you a more deep understanding of computers. Software engineering is literally a branch of CS, which is the whole thing. The status part ir real though... ppl think everyone who works on the IT area has a degree on computer science lol...
in Brazil Computer Science is harder and more prestigious
how about data science
When did you start college?
Almost 3 years go!
1 year earlier but they have the same amount of units tho :/
Please hkep soon !!
Nice video but you are forgetting one major difference between the two programs. Since software engineering is more strictly accredited, every class that a software engineer takes has to be taught by a licensed engineer. This might sound like an advantage, but in reality it can cause minor catastrophes.
Since there are only so many licensed engineers who are professors, many software classes are only offered ONCE per year. These classes are also pre-requisites for other required software engineering courses. This means if you cannot complete a class for any reason including: falling sick, failing, falling behind etc... you are at a high risk of delaying you graduation by an entire year since you will not be able to take the required software engineering classes that require that course as a pre-requisite. You will need to wait an entire year for that class to be offered again so that you can retake it.
In fact, this is what caused me to change program. I have chronic health problems and Software engineering was not flexible enough for my situation. All the extra material from the software engineering program can be learned on the job whenever you need it - and you will be compensated while you learn it.
This is definitely not true. SE is not "more strictly accredited", as you say. There is accredited (usually through ABET) and there is unaccredited. If you take a CS degree that is accredited through ABET then the standards are going to be relatively the same. Most of the teachers are going to be the same and tbh lots of the classes are going to be the same. The only difference is that since CS a lot more focused on the theoretical mathematical and scientific side of computation and sets you up to likely get a job in research or academia. As opposed to SE which will prepare to go into an engineering position in the development industry right away. Most CS grads take so many mathematics classes they pick up math minors. While there are a lot of schools offering CS which may not be accredited. If you pursue a degree in CS from an accredited university it is going to be located in the engineering college and be just as rigorous if not more than SE. A lot more people have a problem with a more abstract mathematical degree like CS which is essentially a theoretical, scientific, and computational mathematics degree opposed to the more practical SE degree.
@@arodcodes199 I can only speak to how things work here in Quebec and probably other Canadian provinces.
@@risitas5874 Oh for sure I understand. No worries. Definitely programs are different depending on where you go.
If comp science majors are adraid of future automation get a masters in mechatronic. That way you get get jobs in AI mechanical engineering and electrical engineering construction
If you study CS and get a job as a software engineer and then work as a software engineer... then... doesn't that make you an engineer?
Paul McCartney didn't go to college at all, is he *really* a musician? 🤔
Exactly. Your role is software engineer. So basically you can work an engineering job without getting an engineering degree.
In Canada the title is protected. You cant call yourself an engineer if you dont have the engineering degree. So we say "Software Developper" instead of "Software Engineer"
Thats why I wanted the B. Ing 😛
ngl when you posted this on IG i was wondering why you'd switch. but now It makes total sense, you made SWE sound super boring hahaha. Do you anticipate CS being more difficult than SWE? best of luck man
hahah those first 3 classes were horrible man. But its all my opinion! They just made engineering sound like if it was the most "practical" thing ever. But school wise, it just isnt. Also, I think SE can be more difficult because engineering in general is more challenging. You sort off have more courses overall... And since its engineering, they will automatically crank it up more.(level of difficulty)
I want to do research in Artificial intelligence and combining technology with the human brain. I was wanting to pair a degree in Neuroscience with either software engineering or computer science... what do you think would be more beneficial if I want to build technology that combines these things
U can study anything related to computer science or IT and then do masters / specialise in AI
What are your thoughts on not going to college?
oh man this is almost a video! There is a lot you can say about this topic. Lets just say that not going to college is not for everyone. The same goes with going to college
@@andresvidoza Please make a video about it. The college curriculum here is very old, and i don't want to do it. But there is an Bsc. in cs course offered by university of london partnership with Coursera, offering distance learning to all people. But I'm confused that should i join it or not? Or if the degree's is gonna be valuable? Please make a video. And keep up the great work.
Tbh, if you know you want a job doing higher level coding, CS is the better route rather than wasting time with physics and more calculus in an engineering degree as you get more time to practice what you actually need for the job and interview, which is CODING (algorithms & data structures) and relevant project experience. If you wanna program hardware or design systems, then the engineering route is probably your better bet.
So if u have a cs degree what job do you get or what is it called
Well, in my country Data structures and algorithms are included in both SE and CS classes, guess ill choose Software engineering, it just seems like CS but more practical and without useless subjects like theroy of computation and stuff.
I am also majoring CS in college, but do not know whether I want to go to CS or SE.
Its such a huge debate but dont let it eat your head.. dont waste to much your time. At the send of the day, youre the one who makes a difference regardless
Honestly the difference is too small to bother about. Just look at the degree and pick the one that offers the classes you want to take. I went with software engineering because, at my school, it 1. offers a few more elective credits for me to 'specialize' and 2. the senior capstone for SE is team project. For CS it is a bachelors thesis, and I feel as tho a project will give me more to show for when applying for a job. Ultimately, just find the classes you want to take and pick which ever one lets to take them.
@@blackfalcon1324 thank you brother. I think I should go to SE
Robel Ayelew I think it also matters where you are. This video is Canadian. Here in the us we don’t have an ‘engineer accreditation’, a degree is a degree. Cs and S.E. are both 4 year degrees that are 10-15% different in classes.
If you are in Canada, or somewhere where S.E. is a ‘higher’ degree, I would do that.
@@itheblackwolfofmyfamily computer science is Better tbh
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I have a CS Bachelor and a MSc in Software Engineering 😅 I enjoyed both
Which one was harder ??
@@Kamrankhan23333 they were very different. During computer science bachelor there were a lot of maths courses and practical programming projects, while Software Engineering was a bit more theoretical, had to write documentations with diagrams. I would say the Bachelor in CS was a but more demanding. :)
@@lorep7412 do you have a job now?
@@Kamrankhan23333 yes, I started a part time job during Bachelor, then full time dutin masters. So when I finished masters I already had 4 years of experience :)
@@lorep7412 do u recommend to do bachelor in CS or software engineering in terms the toughness in courses aswell as skills gained for actual work.....
You make it sound like cs is easier.
A lot of people think they don't need a degree to become a software engineer.:)
For real. They be comparing themselves to actual engineers who has to take 4 Calculus
CS sounds waaaaaaaay better.
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Well, in my country, Bangladesh, "Computer Science and Engineering (CSE)" has turned to be one of the most common undergrad program in almost all universities.
Which apparently solves the problem of not being called an engineer 😁😁😁
আমাদের দেশে এখন CSE জাতীয় সাবজেক্টে পরিনত হয়েছে 😬 আমি নিজেও ভেবে পাচ্ছি না সফটওয়্যার ইঞ্জিনিয়ারিং নিয়ে পড়বো নাকি কম্পিউটার সাইন্স এন্ড ইঞ্জিনিয়ারিং নিয়ে পড়বো???
@@himel_tasrif সহমত ভাই। আপনি কি এবার ভর্তি পরীক্ষার্থী?
@@himel_tasrif বুকে আসো ভাই!
আমি আর তুমি তো একই দেখছি!
আমি অবশ্য সেকেন্ড টাইম জাবি নিয়ে চিন্তা করছি, ইনশা আল্লহ। জাবির CSE Dept. + IIT -ও বেশ ভালই শুনেছি।
@@AmanahFruitsShopOfficial আমি risk নিবো না আর যত তাড়াতাড়ি honors শেষ করতে পারি তবে আপনি 2nd time দিতে চাইলে আমি বলবো MIST এর জন্য প্রিপারেশন নেন Already সার্কুলার হয়ে গেছে মানে এ বছর যারা ভর্তি হবে আপনি 2nd time দিয়েও তাদের ধরতে পারবেন আর MIST এর থেকে ভালো CSE ডিপার্টমেন্ট কোথাও পাবেন না এরা NASA-এর রোবোটিক্স তেও যেয়ে COMPETITION করছে
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