In almost every jibe video on TH-cam, the one point I always find so difficult to understand is the point at which the foot change and sail flip occurs. It becomes difficult to picture the transition point in relation to the wind due to the moving perspective, but you touched on the point Mario, that in some of those jibes, you may have left things a bit late. The drone footage though fixes those perspective issues as it is a top down view, which makes it easier to see where the wind direction is in relation to the board heading at foot change time. It would be useful to see more videos from the drone, and an explainer of when is too soon, the perfect time and too late for foot and rig flip.
Hi Mario. Great video and very useful. What I appreciated most was your humility in analyzing your mistakes for the benefit of others. Not everyone can do this. Anyway, your jibe technique is very stylish! Porto Pollo with that wind condition is a very nice spot to improve jibing. Cheers!
Thanks Mario this helps....i always seem to backwind my sail and stal the gybe ..i can see that i have to flip earlier..im in La Ventana for the winter ..dont get much flat water for practice..but blasting on the swells and catching waves is awsome...and i learn a lot from your video's..thanks
I've come back to this video multiple times so I could really observe even the smallest things and now I see some significant improvements in my jibes. Thank you Mario for some great lectures!
Hi Mario, great video, really appreciate your candid analysis, I'm new to your channel in the past couple of months (watched a lot of Nico's before) and really enjoy your reviews as you say it as it is, which gives 'real world' relevance to keen windsurfers like myself who are not so talented but look forward to every session and any tips that enable us to improve.
Hi Mario, great Video again. Looking where you want to go seem to be the most general but best hint ever. It's amazing how this works nearly in any situation. I told it to my son for skiing while tried it the first time at the age of four years. He went curves nearly as he wants and without knowing what he is doing. And yes, I use it also for carving jibes. Speed up, be focussed and look forward into the jibe, amazing. I'm looking forward to your next video, Jochen
Great Video Mario! Very analytic. Helped me a lot in improving my jibes. When it comes to the aspect of "vision forward" I think learning to juggle with 3 or 4 balls helps us improve the ability to separate vision from hands.
I come more from wavesailing ... I would place the backhand a little bit more to the end of the Boom ... wider hold and then automaticly put the Rig more to the Front ... like a bottom Turn
One thing for me is that when I develop bad habits for a long time in my technique, I have to go fully prepared for a day knowing exactly what to do to solve that problem and consciously do that move with only one thing in mind which is to solve that habit. And I have to do it over and over. And many times this change will make you worse overall but you have to stick with it even if you are now worse than before and now you gotta solve a new problem, usually easier because it hasn't developed as a habit yet. If I don't have maximum focus on that thing during my session initially, I always revert back to the old bad habit and its really stubborn to fix
In the waves you are always trying to avoid going too far down wind and these long drawn out jibes are loosing a whole lot of ground and speed because of the length of time the sail is not powered while walking around the boom and foot position changes. In the waves jibes are very quick to avoid loosing ground and also bouncing around going over the back of wind crop. Ideally you would carve off the front one wind chop down into the trough and off the back of the next swell. To do this you maintain pressure on the rail the whole way which means you are carving the whole way, which means you maintain board rail pressure the whole way. You maintain full rail pressure until the board approaches approx 135 degrees of the 180 deg turn, at this point the turn becomes automatic because the board wants to continue rounding up into the wind. All it takes to insure this is to move the mast of the sail slightly aft (with respect to the new direction meaning you dip the mast aft toward the tail. This will cause the sail to flip automatically (release the sail by about 135 degrees and start to relieve some of the rail pressure). On a wave sail you can literally dip the mast aft slightly and let go of the boom while still pressing the rail and leaning to the center of the turn looking into the new direction. The sail will flip rapidly and you can grab the boom on the opposite side. Once you are on the opposite side of the boom, the board will be close to having completed 180 degrees of the turn and you switch your feet while sheeting in aggressively and off you go. This motion can be very fast, and there is no fumbling walking you way around the boom. There is no need. Mario is showing lay down jibes, this is just a variation of the same thing. You start the same way as Mario shows leaning into the turn, pressing the rail, but instead of relieving rail pressure and walking around the boom (while running straight down wind), you maintain rail pressure and tilt the boom back toward the stern (away from the nose) and let the sail go. With the proper timing you are grabbing the boom on the other side just as the board rounds up to the 180 degree point (beam reach on the opposite tack), if you are less than this say at 135 degrees the wind will catch up with you and will pull you over the handlebars. And if you are unlucky and you harness lines hook to your harness you will get slammed. (pro tip: go with the flow, drop your head into a somersault and you will land into the sail without croaking your self on the boom. A few pointers, the heavier the wind the faster you have to turn downwind to outrun the wind and let wind pressure off of the sail. If you are holding the sail against a heavy wind with the mast pointed aft, the sail will flip very fast; surprisingly fast. Try it on the beach. Lean mast aft release and it will flip right back into your hands on the other side. Do it in about 10-15 mph for practice. With a 30 minutes of practice you will get the timing such that you release and catch the boom on the other side. To practice the motions on the water, I recommend you put your board on the sandy beach and bury the fin. Stand next to the board with the clew to the nose. Tilt the mast toward the tail and just let it go, it will spin around, grab it on the other side and jump on the board while you are fully sheeting in. That is the basic motion you will use on the water. It will not take more than 2-3 seconds (less with practice) . The added complication on the water is the timing of the release; you want to initiate at around 135 degrees so you complete the grab on the other side at 180 degrees. Easying the rail pressure so you stop the turn as you get to 180 degrees. Then just as the board has fully made the turn and you are on the other boom side, jump with your feet to the new position as you pull yourself forward with the boom as you sheet in on the new tack. In all of these videos Mario when he is looking down has started to straighten out his board loosing even more ground and wasting time. Of course this is supposed to be practice for downwind slalom racing I suppose so I would adjust my wave style for the larger slalom sail. For slalom, you are still going to time the jibe for the radius you are planning to take in the turn. A longer radius takes more time, less body lean, and less rail pressure. However to get a big slalom sail to flip you are going to need to exaggerate the lean of the mast. In addition it helps to instead of completely releasing the boom with both hands, only let the hand near the boom end loose and hold on to the mast end for an extra moment (while it is leaned aft) to get the sail to spin around faster than it would otherwise. It wont be as fast as a wave sail but you wont have to walk around the boom loosing huge ground and rail pressure
I wish I could gybe like you. I am very critical of my gybing . I used to be very good at looking at the exit but after 2 years off injured I sometimes don't. Generally the worst gybes are always because I'm not looking at the exit. It's nice to see even someone at your level is critical but I suppose that's how we improve. By the way you are VERY close to the beach where you are gybing!
Thanks a lot Mario. I really appreciate it. I notice they were all laydown gybes and they look great, but in a race not preferred. My problem has been with the foot change where I've been ending up too far forward then can't handle the power of the rig. I notice your new back foot goes behind your old back foot which is not what I was taught but looks very effective. Great content and very useful! Cheers!
Laydown jibe was my dream for a long time, I watched a tutorial and my first try was accidentally good, I was surprised by how fast the board turned like your 4th in the video. I had to rush the foot change and sail rotation but it worked out, great time. I though it was even easier than a normal jibe. But I stopped forever after maybe 5 good of 20 try when I finally break my mast in a crash. The more I crash the more fear I get so I'm doomed. As I'm now I still don't make a jibe properly on daily basis, making every mistakes in the book, I'm still working on it and a full plane jibe is my next teen dream to achieve. Not easy in the gusty chopy south of France (ganguise & la nautique) but I keep trying, tomorow is light 14/25 knots so I will work on it.
Good video, some self analysis with video helps a lot. Like Nils and sometimes Andy Laufer you hook in before putting the front foot into the footstrap. This seems to be a German thing from what I can see. If you gybe on the sea and hook in first, it greatly increases the chance of a catapult as the nose of the board might hit a wave/white water/swell before you have picked up speed again. If you learn on lakes, this wouldnt matter. Nico Prien seems to put his feet in the straps before hooking in.
there is a difference between gybe 2 and gybe 3. In gybe 2 you didnt shift some of the sail weight towards the back foot, before the lay down.. this is why it looks kind of weird while in 3 you did.. and i think you need to do this specially in choppy waters, since it stabilizes your board and doesnt fly around too much, which actually happeend to you in 2
Hello, looking where your next "problem" is seems to be your natural motion. You even look down to your harness lines when wanting to hook in. Why not start with unlearning this motion, start hooking in without looking, giving the message to your body that not every topic has to be supervised by eyesight, but by feeling the internal body position and learning your body to get to this position without visual aid. Maybe sail straight, close your eyes - no vision to guide -, then hook in and out and feel what body motions are done and then replicate. Then you can go on and close eyes shortly while carving a turn, you need to get away from visual coordination to feel coordination, only then you will be comfortable looking elsewhere and not at the "next" topic, like hooking in. I think Franciso Goya once said he can do his backloops with closed eyes because his body had ingrained the feeling of a backloop, no eye guidance needed.
Mario, I am a complete amateur, certainly compared to you. BUT, I think you have in your muscle memory to shift the sail and your feet at the same time. That always leads to a unstable (half a) second. So I’d suggest you experiment with shifting your feet first, sailing *CLEW FIRST* for half a second and then flip the rig. What do you think?
A hypothesis: the dark colour of your sails makes you look down more than you would have done if the sail hadn't blocked your line of sight to the same extent.
I like your videos. Great explanations. You actually tell us simply, that jibing is just so difficult. core strength, technic, timing. Only if everything comes together it is really cool. My 5 cents on your jibes, you overdo your laydown, i.e. you do a little to much and a little to long, which makes timing and adjustments more tricky. I prefer less laydown but this is a personal choice I believe. To me Nico Prien is still the style master for jibing. His technic epitomizes for me jibing perfection.
First of all. Stop using a seat harness. Use a hip harness (waist harness with string) and longer lines. Then, make video. The leg bones will keep the harness down, not the string. That's just for preventing floating up.
In almost every jibe video on TH-cam, the one point I always find so difficult to understand is the point at which the foot change and sail flip occurs. It becomes difficult to picture the transition point in relation to the wind due to the moving perspective, but you touched on the point Mario, that in some of those jibes, you may have left things a bit late. The drone footage though fixes those perspective issues as it is a top down view, which makes it easier to see where the wind direction is in relation to the board heading at foot change time. It would be useful to see more videos from the drone, and an explainer of when is too soon, the perfect time and too late for foot and rig flip.
Change feet a split second before you change hands :)
Great video Mario 👍
Hi Mario. Great video and very useful. What I appreciated most was your humility in analyzing your mistakes for the benefit of others. Not everyone can do this. Anyway, your jibe technique is very stylish! Porto Pollo with that wind condition is a very nice spot to improve jibing. Cheers!
Thanks Mario this helps....i always seem to backwind my sail and stal the gybe ..i can see that i have to flip earlier..im in La Ventana for the winter ..dont get much flat water for practice..but blasting on the swells and catching waves is awsome...and i learn a lot from your video's..thanks
Enjoy your winter! Your magic jibe revelation moment will come.. :-)
I've come back to this video multiple times so I could really observe even the smallest things and now I see some significant improvements in my jibes. Thank you Mario for some great lectures!
❤️
Hi Mario, great video, really appreciate your candid analysis, I'm new to your channel in the past couple of months (watched a lot of Nico's before) and really enjoy your reviews as you say it as it is, which gives 'real world' relevance to keen windsurfers like myself who are not so talented but look forward to every session and any tips that enable us to improve.
Hi Mario, great Video again. Looking where you want to go seem to be the most general but best hint ever. It's amazing how this works nearly in any situation. I told it to my son for skiing while tried it the first time at the age of four years. He went curves nearly as he wants and without knowing what he is doing. And yes, I use it also for carving jibes. Speed up, be focussed and look forward into the jibe, amazing.
I'm looking forward to your next video,
Jochen
Great Video Mario! Very analytic. Helped me a lot in improving my jibes. When it comes to the aspect of "vision forward" I think learning to juggle with 3 or 4 balls helps us improve the ability to separate vision from hands.
I come more from wavesailing ... I would place the backhand a little bit more to the end of the Boom ... wider hold and then automaticly put the Rig more to the Front ... like a bottom Turn
Wave sailor here as well with many years (started to WS in early 80's) in Santa Barbara area including the "J". .
Awesome video! Best way to learn in my opinion
One thing for me is that when I develop bad habits for a long time in my technique, I have to go fully prepared for a day knowing exactly what to do to solve that problem and consciously do that move with only one thing in mind which is to solve that habit. And I have to do it over and over. And many times this change will make you worse overall but you have to stick with it even if you are now worse than before and now you gotta solve a new problem, usually easier because it hasn't developed as a habit yet. If I don't have maximum focus on that thing during my session initially, I always revert back to the old bad habit and its really stubborn to fix
Great video. Useful to see how people analyze videos of themselves.
In the waves you are always trying to avoid going too far down wind and these long drawn out jibes are loosing a whole lot of ground and speed because of the length of time the sail is not powered while walking around the boom and foot position changes.
In the waves jibes are very quick to avoid loosing ground and also bouncing around going over the back of wind crop. Ideally you would carve off the front one wind chop down into the trough and off the back of the next swell. To do this you maintain pressure on the rail the whole way which means you are carving the whole way, which means you maintain board rail pressure the whole way.
You maintain full rail pressure until the board approaches approx 135 degrees of the 180 deg turn, at this point the turn becomes automatic because the board wants to continue rounding up into the wind. All it takes to insure this is to move the mast of the sail slightly aft (with respect to the new direction meaning you dip the mast aft toward the tail. This will cause the sail to flip automatically (release the sail by about 135 degrees and start to relieve some of the rail pressure).
On a wave sail you can literally dip the mast aft slightly and let go of the boom while still pressing the rail and leaning to the center of the turn looking into the new direction. The sail will flip rapidly and you can grab the boom on the opposite side. Once you are on the opposite side of the boom, the board will be close to having completed 180 degrees of the turn and you switch your feet while sheeting in aggressively and off you go. This motion can be very fast, and there is no fumbling walking you way around the boom. There is no need.
Mario is showing lay down jibes, this is just a variation of the same thing. You start the same way as Mario shows leaning into the turn, pressing the rail, but instead of relieving rail pressure and walking around the boom (while running straight down wind), you maintain rail pressure and tilt the boom back toward the stern (away from the nose) and let the sail go. With the proper timing you are grabbing the boom on the other side just as the board rounds up to the 180 degree point (beam reach on the opposite tack), if you are less than this say at 135 degrees the wind will catch up with you and will pull you over the handlebars. And if you are unlucky and you harness lines hook to your harness you will get slammed. (pro tip: go with the flow, drop your head into a somersault and you will land into the sail without croaking your self on the boom.
A few pointers, the heavier the wind the faster you have to turn downwind to outrun the wind and let wind pressure off of the sail. If you are holding the sail against a heavy wind with the mast pointed aft, the sail will flip very fast; surprisingly fast. Try it on the beach. Lean mast aft release and it will flip right back into your hands on the other side. Do it in about 10-15 mph for practice. With a 30 minutes of practice you will get the timing such that you release and catch the boom on the other side.
To practice the motions on the water, I recommend you put your board on the sandy beach and bury the fin. Stand next to the board with the clew to the nose. Tilt the mast toward the tail and just let it go, it will spin around, grab it on the other side and jump on the board while you are fully sheeting in. That is the basic motion you will use on the water. It will not take more than 2-3 seconds (less with practice) . The added complication on the water is the timing of the release; you want to initiate at around 135 degrees so you complete the grab on the other side at 180 degrees. Easying the rail pressure so you stop the turn as you get to 180 degrees. Then just as the board has fully made the turn and you are on the other boom side, jump with your feet to the new position as you pull yourself forward with the boom as you sheet in on the new tack.
In all of these videos Mario when he is looking down has started to straighten out his board loosing even more ground and wasting time. Of course this is supposed to be practice for downwind slalom racing I suppose so I would adjust my wave style for the larger slalom sail.
For slalom, you are still going to time the jibe for the radius you are planning to take in the turn. A longer radius takes more time, less body lean, and less rail pressure. However to get a big slalom sail to flip you are going to need to exaggerate the lean of the mast. In addition it helps to instead of completely releasing the boom with both hands, only let the hand near the boom end loose and hold on to the mast end for an extra moment (while it is leaned aft) to get the sail to spin around faster than it would otherwise. It wont be as fast as a wave sail but you wont have to walk around the boom loosing huge ground and rail pressure
I wish I could gybe like you. I am very critical of my gybing . I used to be very good at looking at the exit but after 2 years off injured I sometimes don't. Generally the worst gybes are always because I'm not looking at the exit.
It's nice to see even someone at your level is critical but I suppose that's how we improve.
By the way you are VERY close to the beach where you are gybing!
Thanks for your time to explain the jibes🤙🤙
Gernegerne!
Thanks a lot Mario. I really appreciate it. I notice they were all laydown gybes and they look great, but in a race not preferred. My problem has been with the foot change where I've been ending up too far forward then can't handle the power of the rig. I notice your new back foot goes behind your old back foot which is not what I was taught but looks very effective. Great content and very useful! Cheers!
Laydown jibe was my dream for a long time, I watched a tutorial and my first try was accidentally good, I was surprised by how fast the board turned like your 4th in the video. I had to rush the foot change and sail rotation but it worked out, great time. I though it was even easier than a normal jibe. But I stopped forever after maybe 5 good of 20 try when I finally break my mast in a crash. The more I crash the more fear I get so I'm doomed.
As I'm now I still don't make a jibe properly on daily basis, making every mistakes in the book, I'm still working on it and a full plane jibe is my next teen dream to achieve. Not easy in the gusty chopy south of France (ganguise & la nautique) but I keep trying, tomorow is light 14/25 knots so I will work on it.
Very useful video, I've learned a lot. Thanks
Happy to hear!
Thank you for learning from your mistakes
vid was great idea - nicely done!
Good video, some self analysis with video helps a lot. Like Nils and sometimes Andy Laufer you hook in before putting the front foot into the footstrap. This seems to be a German thing from what I can see. If you gybe on the sea and hook in first, it greatly increases the chance of a catapult as the nose of the board might hit a wave/white water/swell before you have picked up speed again. If you learn on lakes, this wouldnt matter. Nico Prien seems to put his feet in the straps before hooking in.
Thanks! I think I even said this in the video at some point, totally agree..😊
Great video! Thank you!
Nice work Mario!
Schaue immer gerne deine Videos.LEIDER ist mein Englisch miserabel.weiter so aber auch gerne hin und wieder in deutsch😊
thx Mario, good tips
If only my jibing mistakes were as good as Mario's. For me, a water start has become a part of the jibe :-)
there is a difference between gybe 2 and gybe 3. In gybe 2 you didnt shift some of the sail weight towards the back foot, before the lay down.. this is why it looks kind of weird while in 3 you did.. and i think you need to do this specially in choppy waters, since it stabilizes your board and doesnt fly around too much, which actually happeend to you in 2
Hello, looking where your next "problem" is seems to be your natural motion. You even look down to your harness lines when wanting to hook in. Why not start with unlearning this motion, start hooking in without looking, giving the message to your body that not every topic has to be supervised by eyesight, but by feeling the internal body position and learning your body to get to this position without visual aid. Maybe sail straight, close your eyes - no vision to guide -, then hook in and out and feel what body motions are done and then replicate. Then you can go on and close eyes shortly while carving a turn, you need to get away from visual coordination to feel coordination, only then you will be comfortable looking elsewhere and not at the "next" topic, like hooking in. I think Franciso Goya once said he can do his backloops with closed eyes because his body had ingrained the feeling of a backloop, no eye guidance needed.
Thank you, Mario. Your videos are always great and very useful. And very nice spot. Could you please share, where this beautiful spot is? Thank you!
It’s the same spot as in my previous spotguide video. Feel free to check it out..😊🤙🏽
🤙🤙🤙great video Mario
LOVE THE VIDEO❤🎉
Einfach direkt doppelter subcribe-Aufruf. War bestimmt Absicht, hat zumindest fürs liken funktioniert 😂
Lift and sdtraighten front arm during laydown. ALL YOU CAN. So that shoulder touches chin.
Mario, I am a complete amateur, certainly compared to you. BUT, I think you have in your muscle memory to shift the sail and your feet at the same time. That always leads to a unstable (half a) second. So I’d suggest you experiment with shifting your feet first, sailing *CLEW FIRST* for half a second and then flip the rig. What do you think?
So... Conclusion: best jibes when one sails more relaxed an not too eager?
A hypothesis: the dark colour of your sails makes you look down more than you would have done if the sail hadn't blocked your line of sight to the same extent.
good point!!
I like your videos. Great explanations. You actually tell us simply, that jibing is just so difficult. core strength, technic, timing. Only if everything comes together it is really cool. My 5 cents on your jibes, you overdo your laydown, i.e. you do a little to much and a little to long, which makes timing and adjustments more tricky. I prefer less laydown but this is a personal choice I believe. To me Nico Prien is still the style master for jibing. His technic epitomizes for me jibing perfection.
🤪🤪🤪good tips
Spät, aber nicht weniger von Herzen: Moin Mario!
Zu spät, aber ebenso von Herzen: guten Abend!
good leason
Thanks!!
I wish i could do those mistakes to. It would mean that i could power jibe!! 🤣
You‘re just looking down to have a better view on your perfect jibes! 🤙😉
🤣 exactly! haha
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real men crash and uphaul 😛
Hang Loose, super Video 🤙
Thanks mate!
First of all. Stop using a seat harness. Use a hip harness (waist harness with string) and longer lines. Then, make video. The leg bones will keep the harness down, not the string. That's just for preventing floating up.
First of all. I’m not using a seat harness. It’s a hybrid one.😚
@@MarioKuempel hybrid is an even bigger mistake. A compomize killing windsurfing. And all germans are fooled. Stop and think. Really think.
Good hints and explanations. Thanks for it!
Thanks!!