It recently came out, thanks to Crystal, that they started filming before the script was done. Apparently it wasn’t done until like two weeks before they were done. That makes A LOT of sense and honestly explains so much.
the thing that drives me crazy with Eli is that there are two very simple fixes: have a single line of dialogue confirming that he's a bitten kid Derek adopted (and then his whole werewolf trauma thing could tie into that backstory and feel a bit less forced), or cast a mixed race actor and have him be Derek and Braeden's kid. Like, yes, the timelines aren't perfect for the second one, but we can fudge a year or two, it's not the end of the world. We're already in the future, we could just be an extra year in the future and it would change nothing. You don't even need to explain then where Eli's mom is, because Braeden was a human who's job is fist-fighting werewolves, either her being dead or her leaving Derek to raise the kid because it's not safe with her both make perfect sense. But no, Jeff was so committed to casting a white actor, he accidentally created a scenario where Derek apparently asexually reproduced. (Also in retrospect this makes Derek's greatest fear being Jennifer Blake in the S6 finale even weirder. He had a child at this point, you're telling me the man who lost his entire family and blames himself for it isn't more scared of something happening to that kid than he is of a woman who died three years ago?)
possibly the funniest scene in the movie was at derek's funeral when sheriff stilinski (who is apparently tight with derek now?) gives eli a little speech about how no matter what happened to him derek always pulled through. and it's cut with a montage of like Derek Epic Fails from the show??? like just an entire compilation of him absolutely eating shit. funniest thing to include at a character's funeral
it was so clear to me that they wanted eli to take on stiles’s role as the sarcastic, unathletic sidekick but it just fell so flat and felt forced. instead of trying to replace stiles and kira they should’ve just worked with the already great existing characters.
Allison in limbo because killed by the oni. What about the 20 some odd innocents in the hospital killed by the oni? Nobody cares? Nobody resurecting and thus freeing them from limbo. Huge plot hole or Scott , allison, and lydia are the biggest criminal most selfish sinners in the TW universe
@@majinally3527 Nonsense. If they are all in limbo and Allison needs to come back because limbo is bad then all need to. It is simple logic but poor writing led to a huge plot hole. From a moral stand point Allsion was a sinner by all human history religions and civilization no sorry nor reperations for taking part in kidnapping and torture of 3 minors by any and all religions would see hell not limbo. At best her 'warrior's death" due to the oni could earn her pergatory and if she had not taken part in kidnapping and a-ok with the torture of 3 teens then she could have earned Valhalla via a warrior's death. Bad writing in the show and huge plot hole.
1) I'm happy that you released a follow up to your series review 2) An essay defending the movie adaptation of Cats? Excuse me, you have piqued my interest. I must know your arguments for the movie!
I FINALLY watched the movie today after putting it off for so long because I was scared it'd ruin the show for me and actually, im somewhat grateful it was so terrible! It made it easier to say "ok none of this is canon" whereas a somewhat ok movie would have tainted canon for me haha The only redeeming factor for me was, as you mentioned, a lot of characters' futures are what i would expect. Scott's animal shelter, Malia working with Derek and staying in Beacon Hills, Lydia's tech work, Jackson flying in to help out his friend with the same sass he had in high school
what i wanna know is how peter met malias mom. i don’t understand how that worked we’ve never seen him interested in any woman on the show and scott’s mom was just for funsies
Good luck with your finishing school! I know how deeply stressful that is (I just finished college this time last year) so if you need to take a hiatus for that, absolutely take it! I love your videos and am perfectly happy to wait for more if it means peace of mind for you. Thank you for even putting this out!
i feel the biggest problem of this movie is that it feels like a season 7 crammed into a two hour film, and not a movie with its own plot. it just relies on nostalgia for their best season as they fail to recreate it. but using the nogitsune plot was never going to work without kira or stiles’ presence
But it doesn’t even continue the season 6 story, it continues season 3, it’s like they decided to reboot seasons 4-6. Only new people from those seasons are Mason and Liam and they don’t even interact and are pretty inconsequential to the plot, unfortunately.
Loved this video! My top 5 favorite characters of Teen Wolf are: 1. Isaac 2. Kira 3. Melissa 4. Stiles 5. Scott As you can imagine, this movie made me physically ill. I get that they couldn't get my favorite characters back, but it's not just that they're absent, it's that they're being treated like they never existed at all, like the way they were specifically edited out of the flashbacks. The narrative vandalism on display here makes my blood boil. Jeff Davis and Tyler Posey insist this movie is a love letter addressed to the fans, but this honestly feels like hate mail addressed to the cast members who declined to return, especially Arden Cho, who has and continues to bear the brunt of the creators' spite. I'd be interested to know if you'll tune into Wolf Pack; word is it's pretty good, but if this movie has proved one thing it's that Jeff Davis's brain is eternally trapped in 2013, and I refuse to let this guy rot my brain with queerbait and comphet a second time around. Anyway, rant over, I'm going back to ao3 to numb the pain with a bunch of scisaac fics.
I’m not watching this right now but I’m so excited to see your take. I finally finished your massive teen wolf video and I still need to comment but I agreed with like 90-95% of what you said in that so I’m sure this will be good. I will say before I even watched I was pissed Arden was disrespected so bad and then the fact that Cody wasn’t even asked to return or told about the movie rubbed me the wrong way. DOB might have been in it if it hadn’t been so rushed and I wish they’d either done a different story or scheduled around them. Ugh.
I have always hated when movies/shows/books try to outdo themselves when it comes to the next villain or how complicated the plot gets, instead of like...developing their characters and wrapping up satisfying arcs. Teen Wolf (show AND movie) is the living proof that this neverending one-upping a story does with itself is only ruining the good and amplifying the bad. Of course, you need to raise the stakes in a story with each addition to the series, but there are simpler and neater ways to do it. Not to mention that bringing back a character from the dead (one we mourned and have missed dearly) is such a lazy plot point at best and absolute character assasination at worst. Imagine this, instead of spending most of your budget on effects, you pay Arden Cho the same ammount you pay your white female leads (and you still have a lot of money left). Instead of a complicated plot that only exists to give you a reason to include every character you have ever introduced and new characters (that the audience won't even have time to connect with), you create a plot that involves the main cast and side characters, relevant to your story. Instead of overcomplicated story that feels uninspired and like it tries too hard, you go back to your roots of campiness, pure fun and a good mystery at the movie's core. Anyway, I love your videos
It feels so crazy to me that this movie didnt continue the cliffhanger the original show left off on? I didnt like season 6B but that still wouldve been a logical point to put the movie continuation. Still have no clue what the point of this plot even was🥲
I mean besides Allison's actress no one looked like they'd had an abundance of plastic surgery done. I don't think every actor over 30 is getting fillers and lifts lol.
Too all the TW fans that still wanted this movie too happened after The GOAT himself Dylan O'Brien said hell no and the queen Arden said no to it too is be careful of you fucking wish for! Thank God they dodged the bullet there. I just hope Jeff Davis is hiding somewhere save because if he comes out he will have alot of pissed off TW fans kicking his ass.
Ryan, can you imagine how awesome it would be if they did the Madelyene Pryor storyline in this? Have Allison come back still but have the villain turn into Void Allison and that way you could do the scenes and the audience is like Scott never knowing which is which. That would've at least been entertaining and tense. Also, I get why they never did Vampires on the original run of the show, they had been done to death at that point and they didn't want to be compared to the Vampire Diaries but this would've been an excellent chance to introduce one or two and make them a real threat to the Wolves. Also, the kid playing Derek's son is a martial arts expert, not really an actorbut they could've given him something more to his character. I would've made him gay and have that be tied to his fear of his wolf side. Turn both into a coming out and accepting yourself storyline. I've had more than one friend of mine be afraid to come out and have it also impact their overall willingness to share other aspects of themselves with others.
great video! i don't have anything interesting to say but i'm commenting for the engagement lol good luck with school, can't wait to see your other projects!
Shit I accidentally disliked but then corrected and liked, let the record show I did very much like and enjoy this video. You’re awesome man, thanks so much for all the content and keep it up when you have the time:)
I contend that Stiles is Eli’s mom. They’re in a world with werewolves and if you’ve read fanfiction you know how that’s possible. I also feel like it would make his a sense a LOT more understandable, gives Eli a reason to keep stealing the jeep, the sheriff a reason why he doesn’t arrest him AND is suddenly bff’s with Derek. And don’t forget the sheriff saying something to Derek something along the lines of, “I know you have complicated feelings about the jeep”
Stiles would’ve had to be pregnant for all of seasons 4-6. The simpler explanation for Eli could’ve been to make him Braedens kid since that was Derek’s last known affair and set the year two years in the future so that way when we last see her she could be retconned into very early stages of pregnancy without any fuss.
@@mkwhite5054 your not understanding what I’m saying, we don’t know they didn’t meet up on they’re own without the rest of the pack. Also your referencing biology and time but you realize this is including only amab’s AND a werewolf in the pregnancy… right? Whose to say it would play by the same rules as a pregnancy where an afab person is the carrier??
This movie was SO BAD, It literally took a Huge Dump on the Show because Jeff Davis doesn't even know what he wants to do with his own series. I Thought the Movie would continue where Season 6 Left Off before the teaser came out, but including the Nogitsune WITHOUT STILES in any way,shape or form was my first Red Flag. But i still went into it with cautious optimism, however i did not expect the Trainwreck it would actually be. The Show itself wasn't a masterpiece or anything, After Season 4 it really declined in quality but i still kept on with it because i still enjoyed it in some way; But the Movie i wanted it to be over as soon as it started. Tyler Posey's song at the End though was the only good thing about this Movie, Fuck this Movie and Fuck Jeff Davis for Ruining Teen Wolf.
I swear I watched this movie twice.... The writing was so bad I had no idea derek died LMAO this legit shocked me, oh yea and....um... AND STILL DID NOT KNOW THE BITE CHANGED THE MONSTER INTO A WEREWOLF.... that actually is a cool idea to continue that storyline.... the bite was given wow// HOW DID I NOT KNOW THIS! I watched it a second time to pAY ATTENTION harder... Wow. Sorry but ever since dread doctors, I knew jeff was a terrible writer for this show and had a HORRIBLE HANDLE on the storylines, he made them off the rails confusing while season 1-3 were light hearted but strong enough, simple and Addicting, 3B Was awesome, AFTER THAT...Even my mom who ended up loving the show, COULD NOT FOLLOW the story, I knew it was coming, it seriously gets soo unneccarily confusing you feel like your on an acid trip, He brings the same quips word wise to his new show wolf pack, it has jeff davis all over it but its slower so its not confusing but its still like Bro... c'mom
The movie broke all records for viewing and is still trending. Not saying it was great but he was also working on Wolf Pack at the same time and they spent far more money on that series.
Why ''thank god'' on the scalia break up? Their relationship works so much better than scira or scallison. Their moments in season 6b were amazing and they should have made it happen in season 4 already. It is a SHAME that jeff broke them up only for scallison to return.
Argent and Melissa are still an item. Derek was not in the show s5 most of s6 so could have been with anyone to have Eli. The best younger actors together I thought were Scott and Lydia, they seem to show the most feeling at being back together. Malia was not going off to school in Paris but for a holiday - she couldn't manage school in the US. I never thought that Kira really gelled with the team and her character was too needy the new girl was much better, she was a perfect match for Liam and held her powers much better than Kira.
It recently came out, thanks to Crystal, that they started filming before the script was done. Apparently it wasn’t done until like two weeks before they were done. That makes A LOT of sense and honestly explains so much.
the thing that drives me crazy with Eli is that there are two very simple fixes: have a single line of dialogue confirming that he's a bitten kid Derek adopted (and then his whole werewolf trauma thing could tie into that backstory and feel a bit less forced), or cast a mixed race actor and have him be Derek and Braeden's kid. Like, yes, the timelines aren't perfect for the second one, but we can fudge a year or two, it's not the end of the world. We're already in the future, we could just be an extra year in the future and it would change nothing. You don't even need to explain then where Eli's mom is, because Braeden was a human who's job is fist-fighting werewolves, either her being dead or her leaving Derek to raise the kid because it's not safe with her both make perfect sense.
But no, Jeff was so committed to casting a white actor, he accidentally created a scenario where Derek apparently asexually reproduced.
(Also in retrospect this makes Derek's greatest fear being Jennifer Blake in the S6 finale even weirder. He had a child at this point, you're telling me the man who lost his entire family and blames himself for it isn't more scared of something happening to that kid than he is of a woman who died three years ago?)
like...why wasn't his greatest fear LOSING HIS SON???? I can't with the writing of this "film" omfg
What's scarier is he really fathered a kid with the dark deformed druid 😅I mean I know they did the tagoba few times but Braedens was much better
possibly the funniest scene in the movie was at derek's funeral when sheriff stilinski (who is apparently tight with derek now?) gives eli a little speech about how no matter what happened to him derek always pulled through. and it's cut with a montage of like Derek Epic Fails from the show??? like just an entire compilation of him absolutely eating shit. funniest thing to include at a character's funeral
it was so clear to me that they wanted eli to take on stiles’s role as the sarcastic, unathletic sidekick but it just fell so flat and felt forced. instead of trying to replace stiles and kira they should’ve just worked with the already great existing characters.
Why did the dress Malia like she's a kid? And why did we not see Lydia and Alison interact with each other.
Because Jeff Davis didn't care about anyone else in the movie other than Scott, Allison & Eli and only wanted Scott and Allison to interact.
having derek become a true alpha then killing him immmediately will never sit right with me
jeff davis will continue to make the worst possible choices
Allison in limbo because killed by the oni. What about the 20 some odd innocents in the hospital killed by the oni? Nobody cares? Nobody resurecting and thus freeing them from limbo. Huge plot hole or Scott , allison, and lydia are the biggest criminal most selfish sinners in the TW universe
they had no reason to bring them back
@@majinally3527 No, it was bad writing / plot hole.
@@NoneofyourBusiness-iv6pi it’s really not. there was absolutely no reason to bring them all back. the only person important was allison
@@majinally3527 Nonsense. If they are all in limbo and Allison needs to come back because limbo is bad then all need to. It is simple logic but poor writing led to a huge plot hole. From a moral stand point Allsion was a sinner by all human history religions and civilization no sorry nor reperations for taking part in kidnapping and torture of 3 minors by any and all religions would see hell not limbo. At best her 'warrior's death" due to the oni could earn her pergatory and if she had not taken part in kidnapping and a-ok with the torture of 3 teens then she could have earned Valhalla via a warrior's death. Bad writing in the show and huge plot hole.
1) I'm happy that you released a follow up to your series review
2) An essay defending the movie adaptation of Cats? Excuse me, you have piqued my interest. I must know your arguments for the movie!
I FINALLY watched the movie today after putting it off for so long because I was scared it'd ruin the show for me and actually, im somewhat grateful it was so terrible! It made it easier to say "ok none of this is canon" whereas a somewhat ok movie would have tainted canon for me haha
The only redeeming factor for me was, as you mentioned, a lot of characters' futures are what i would expect. Scott's animal shelter, Malia working with Derek and staying in Beacon Hills, Lydia's tech work, Jackson flying in to help out his friend with the same sass he had in high school
YES The wolf show I'll never watch has a movie!
what i wanna know is how peter met malias mom. i don’t understand how that worked we’ve never seen him interested in any woman on the show and scott’s mom was just for funsies
Good luck with your finishing school! I know how deeply stressful that is (I just finished college this time last year) so if you need to take a hiatus for that, absolutely take it! I love your videos and am perfectly happy to wait for more if it means peace of mind for you. Thank you for even putting this out!
god the nonsensicalness was almost impressive. it's like they actively worked at this
i feel the biggest problem of this movie is that it feels like a season 7 crammed into a two hour film, and not a movie with its own plot.
it just relies on nostalgia for their best season as they fail to recreate it. but using the nogitsune plot was never going to work without kira or stiles’ presence
Exactly
But it doesn’t even continue the season 6 story, it continues season 3, it’s like they decided to reboot seasons 4-6. Only new people from those seasons are Mason and Liam and they don’t even interact and are pretty inconsequential to the plot, unfortunately.
@@FJF1085 honestly they really had no reason to leave theo out the plot
The Adrian story made me lose it. Have they not watched the show? Or at least season 3A?
Loved this video!
My top 5 favorite characters of Teen Wolf are:
1. Isaac
2. Kira
3. Melissa
4. Stiles
5. Scott
As you can imagine, this movie made me physically ill. I get that they couldn't get my favorite characters back, but it's not just that they're absent, it's that they're being treated like they never existed at all, like the way they were specifically edited out of the flashbacks. The narrative vandalism on display here makes my blood boil. Jeff Davis and Tyler Posey insist this movie is a love letter addressed to the fans, but this honestly feels like hate mail addressed to the cast members who declined to return, especially Arden Cho, who has and continues to bear the brunt of the creators' spite. I'd be interested to know if you'll tune into Wolf Pack; word is it's pretty good, but if this movie has proved one thing it's that Jeff Davis's brain is eternally trapped in 2013, and I refuse to let this guy rot my brain with queerbait and comphet a second time around.
Anyway, rant over, I'm going back to ao3 to numb the pain with a bunch of scisaac fics.
Why does the Arden Cho story remind me of the treatment of Bonnie Bennett/Kat graham
I’m not watching this right now but I’m so excited to see your take. I finally finished your massive teen wolf video and I still need to comment but I agreed with like 90-95% of what you said in that so I’m sure this will be good.
I will say before I even watched I was pissed Arden was disrespected so bad and then the fact that Cody wasn’t even asked to return or told about the movie rubbed me the wrong way. DOB might have been in it if it hadn’t been so rushed and I wish they’d either done a different story or scheduled around them. Ugh.
I have always hated when movies/shows/books try to outdo themselves when it comes to the next villain or how complicated the plot gets, instead of like...developing their characters and wrapping up satisfying arcs. Teen Wolf (show AND movie) is the living proof that this neverending one-upping a story does with itself is only ruining the good and amplifying the bad. Of course, you need to raise the stakes in a story with each addition to the series, but there are simpler and neater ways to do it. Not to mention that bringing back a character from the dead (one we mourned and have missed dearly) is such a lazy plot point at best and absolute character assasination at worst.
Imagine this, instead of spending most of your budget on effects, you pay Arden Cho the same ammount you pay your white female leads (and you still have a lot of money left). Instead of a complicated plot that only exists to give you a reason to include every character you have ever introduced and new characters (that the audience won't even have time to connect with), you create a plot that involves the main cast and side characters, relevant to your story. Instead of overcomplicated story that feels uninspired and like it tries too hard, you go back to your roots of campiness, pure fun and a good mystery at the movie's core.
Anyway, I love your videos
It feels so crazy to me that this movie didnt continue the cliffhanger the original show left off on? I didnt like season 6B but that still wouldve been a logical point to put the movie continuation. Still have no clue what the point of this plot even was🥲
I mean besides Allison's actress no one looked like they'd had an abundance of plastic surgery done. I don't think every actor over 30 is getting fillers and lifts lol.
ur vids need more attention!! came from the 5 hr teen wolf introspective :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Too all the TW fans that still wanted this movie too happened after The GOAT himself Dylan O'Brien said hell no and the queen Arden said no to it too is be careful of you fucking wish for! Thank God they dodged the bullet there. I just hope Jeff Davis is hiding somewhere save because if he comes out he will have alot of pissed off TW fans kicking his ass.
ive been waiting for this analysis on this movie because girl im not watching that
They had a good story of international hunting ring from last season yet chose this 😂
Good video, good video, and also good video 👏
Ryan, can you imagine how awesome it would be if they did the Madelyene Pryor storyline in this? Have Allison come back still but have the villain turn into Void Allison and that way you could do the scenes and the audience is like Scott never knowing which is which. That would've at least been entertaining and tense.
Also, I get why they never did Vampires on the original run of the show, they had been done to death at that point and they didn't want to be compared to the Vampire Diaries but this would've been an excellent chance to introduce one or two and make them a real threat to the Wolves.
Also, the kid playing Derek's son is a martial arts expert, not really an actorbut they could've given him something more to his character. I would've made him gay and have that be tied to his fear of his wolf side. Turn both into a coming out and accepting yourself storyline. I've had more than one friend of mine be afraid to come out and have it also impact their overall willingness to share other aspects of themselves with others.
there was 1 vampire in season 5. i don’t remember which one but it was one of the dread doctors creations. it’s not the same but they did try that
best take
great video! i don't have anything interesting to say but i'm commenting for the engagement lol good luck with school, can't wait to see your other projects!
No idea you did both the walking dead video and the Degrassi one! Some of my favs I have watched recently
But ya this movie was TRASH
Shit I accidentally disliked but then corrected and liked, let the record show I did very much like and enjoy this video. You’re awesome man, thanks so much for all the content and keep it up when you have the time:)
'old nog'
I contend that Stiles is Eli’s mom.
They’re in a world with werewolves and if you’ve read fanfiction you know how that’s possible.
I also feel like it would make his a sense a LOT more understandable, gives Eli a reason to keep stealing the jeep, the sheriff a reason why he doesn’t arrest him AND is suddenly bff’s with Derek.
And don’t forget the sheriff saying something to Derek something along the lines of, “I know you have complicated feelings about the jeep”
Stiles would’ve had to be pregnant for all of seasons 4-6. The simpler explanation for Eli could’ve been to make him Braedens kid since that was Derek’s last known affair and set the year two years in the future so that way when we last see her she could be retconned into very early stages of pregnancy without any fuss.
@@mkwhite5054 not necessarily, Stiles and Derek could have met up for a little rendezvous at some point 🤷🏻♀️
@@CarlyBarley333 considering how time, and biology, works… yes necessarily.
@@mkwhite5054 your not understanding what I’m saying, we don’t know they didn’t meet up on they’re own without the rest of the pack. Also your referencing biology and time but you realize this is including only amab’s AND a werewolf in the pregnancy… right? Whose to say it would play by the same rules as a pregnancy where an afab person is the carrier??
18:27 why is this scene so. Tense. It's almost homoerotic
I can't be the only one seeing this right?
Like the way they're almost kissing idk
Love the X-Men reference.
This movie was SO BAD, It literally took a Huge Dump on the Show because Jeff Davis doesn't even know what he wants to do with his own series. I Thought the Movie would continue where Season 6 Left Off before the teaser came out, but including the Nogitsune WITHOUT STILES in any way,shape or form was my first Red Flag. But i still went into it with cautious optimism, however i did not expect the Trainwreck it would actually be. The Show itself wasn't a masterpiece or anything, After Season 4 it really declined in quality but i still kept on with it because i still enjoyed it in some way; But the Movie i wanted it to be over as soon as it started. Tyler Posey's song at the End though was the only good thing about this Movie, Fuck this Movie and Fuck Jeff Davis for Ruining Teen Wolf.
Great video, thanks.
thanks for this video loved your opinion on it
Can you make a video on Wolf Pack???
I swear I watched this movie twice.... The writing was so bad I had no idea derek died LMAO this legit shocked me, oh yea and....um...
AND STILL DID NOT KNOW THE BITE CHANGED THE MONSTER INTO A WEREWOLF....
that actually is a cool idea to continue that storyline.... the bite was given
wow// HOW DID I NOT KNOW THIS! I watched it a second time to pAY ATTENTION harder...
Wow. Sorry but ever since dread doctors, I knew jeff was a terrible writer for this show and had a HORRIBLE HANDLE on the storylines, he made them off the rails confusing while season 1-3 were light hearted but strong enough, simple and Addicting, 3B Was awesome, AFTER THAT...Even my mom who ended up loving the show, COULD NOT FOLLOW the story, I knew it was coming, it seriously gets soo unneccarily confusing you feel like your on an acid trip, He brings the same quips word wise to his new show wolf pack, it has jeff davis all over it but its slower so its not confusing but its still like Bro... c'mom
I’d watch a rant vid on the fights
where is the cats essay ryan wHERE IS IT
The Zelda Korok was a paid actor I hope.
But the movie was real shit
Didn't the show end on a cliffhanger?
Wasn't Scott blind by the end?
They just completely forgot about that, right?
Was hoping you’d make a video didn’t think we’d get it so fast
for algorithm
Isn't that a different jeep? It looks different
No it's the Jeep Dylan let them have it but I hope he got it back.
How did I missed this?! But keep getting recomended F*cking Nick DeRamio?!!?
The movie broke all records for viewing and is still trending. Not saying it was great but he was also working on Wolf Pack at the same time and they spent far more money on that series.
Why ''thank god'' on the scalia break up? Their relationship works so much better than scira or scallison. Their moments in season 6b were amazing and they should have made it happen in season 4 already. It is a SHAME that jeff broke them up only for scallison to return.
Argent and Melissa are still an item. Derek was not in the show s5 most of s6 so could have been with anyone to have Eli. The best younger actors together I thought were Scott and Lydia, they seem to show the most feeling at being back together. Malia was not going off to school in Paris but for a holiday - she couldn't manage school in the US. I never thought that Kira really gelled with the team and her character was too needy the new girl was much better, she was a perfect match for Liam and held her powers much better than Kira.