Lam Kor Wan: The Jars Murderer

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  • @thedrinkinggames9573
    @thedrinkinggames9573 2 ปีที่แล้ว +627

    I appreciate George's scripts, they're always stories and victims I don't know anything about. Thank you for sharing them. These four need their stories shared.

    • @annaalexanderova7182
      @annaalexanderova7182 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      🎉😮

    • @patrickfahey7159
      @patrickfahey7159 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah, I like George's scripting, too. I like all of the writers on the show. I don't know if I have a favorite, I have to really think about that one.

    • @thedrinkinggames9573
      @thedrinkinggames9573 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@patrickfahey7159 I haven't seen one yet that I don't like, but George has yet to share a story I knew about already and I really like that. Not only because I like having knowledge, but also because like I said above, these victims deserve to be talked about too. We tend to be very Western focused as most of us are from Western societies. There's nothing wrong with that (knowing what is around you), but expanding our knowledge is always a bonus

    • @mattiemathis9549
      @mattiemathis9549 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It seems like a lot of cases out of Asia don’t get much publicity in the west. George brings us those cases. Thanks George and Jen!! Oh, and Simon, I guess…😂😂😂

    • @marcuspoosz2190
      @marcuspoosz2190 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      nah i feel like George was becoming a bit of a dick at the end of the video tbh with his opinions.

  • @jajssblue
    @jajssblue 2 ปีที่แล้ว +281

    Simon has gathered such an excellent group of professional writers and editors. It's especially appreciated for this series since it can be so emotionally taxing. I can't imagine what it's like for those who have to do the detailed research. All of this is to say a sincere thanks. I've never been into true crime because it's so manufactured these days and focused on the grizzly or romantization of the acts or perpetrators. I'm glad I gave this show a chance because I liked other Whistler-verse shows. Now I think it and Decoding the Unknown might be the best of everything. A sincere thanks!

    • @kaitlynnp582
      @kaitlynnp582 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      This is pretty much the only true crime I like.

    • @patrickfahey7159
      @patrickfahey7159 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I do enjoy Simon's podcast shows, too.😮🙂 I primarily watch six of them non-simultaneously, like The Casual Criminalist, (this channel, which I enjoy true crime, dark stuff to an extent, but I'm still human, I can handle it, yet I still care about humans and alike, if effectively involved in any of the cases covered at all.)
      Biographics, (which I personally love this channel)
      Geographics, (was the first one I ever really got into and is still a personal favorite of mine)
      Into the Shadows, (really cool side story type of channel, it feels like a side story to Biographics and Geographics in a way, good companion piece)
      Warographics ("War it's fantastic", literally, it's kind of like a companion piece to Geographics definitely)
      and Decoding the Unknown. (Really good extra podcast with various topics.)

  • @darkermatter125.35
    @darkermatter125.35 2 ปีที่แล้ว +395

    Jen, if no one has mentioned, the moving images of the killers are eerie af but wonderfully done

    • @nidorina28
      @nidorina28 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I totally agree. You aren't getting enough credit, Jen. You're awesome!

    • @dakotagrusak
      @dakotagrusak 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Ya, all the moving portraits are 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼

    • @amandaireland5206
      @amandaireland5206 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dakotagrusak b BB

    • @Stickerbelle
      @Stickerbelle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thought I was loosing my mind at first!

    • @donnasilvio3974
      @donnasilvio3974 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I've seen this new tech before!!! It's really cool!
      So I paused @37:00 to comment on something, & then saw this. I generally half watch the videos while doing other tasks, so I hadn't noticed. It didn't pop for the next pic I saw, but found one 5min later. After seeing it, I recognized the tech 😁.
      A history YT channel does it when recreating what long dead royalty actually looked like & reimagining them w modern hair & such. I've seen it also on the most modern Missing Persons electronic billboards, which work better than still photos or even home video of them.
      Glad I saw this comment & paid attention to the killer pics; I don't give them as much thought as I do ANY other graphics Jen puts up. Seriously, I'll almost always rewind to see little memes & clips I missed lol. You're awesome, as always, Jen. 💜

  • @jrmckim
    @jrmckim 2 ปีที่แล้ว +466

    As a person who lost a family member the same way as these girls.. I can't thank you enough, George, for putting the victims stories first. It's easy to get caught up in the murderers life story and forget that their victims were ever alive and just like us. Never thinking someday their life would end so soon 💔 This is a lovely way to memorialize these girls.
    I hope someday my own family member's story will be shared on this channel. His name was Justin Bloxom and he was only 12 years old when he was tricked into taking a taxi to meet a girl his age. He never came back. He was found murdered in the woods across from the school he went to. Rip Justin. Miss and love you 💗💗

    • @tillieriley4455
      @tillieriley4455 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Oh my lord! I’m so sorry for your loss. I think Simon should cover that! Do you know who murdered him?

    • @elizabethmcglothlin5406
      @elizabethmcglothlin5406 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Exactly!

    • @brilicusgaming6922
      @brilicusgaming6922 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I'm sorry for your loss I can't imagine how this has effected you and the rest of your family but you have my condolences on your loss.

    • @RealElongatedMuskrat
      @RealElongatedMuskrat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I'm so so terribly sorry for your loss. There are no words.

    • @williamrosenbloom215
      @williamrosenbloom215 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh my god, I just read the dickhead's conviction was overturned in 2018 and then he was re-indicted in 2021?? Does that mean he was out for 3 years??

  • @Dancingonthesun
    @Dancingonthesun 2 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    Simon's faith in checks and balances will never cease to be adorable. Yes Simon, of course a porn photographer gets a thorough background check, as God intended. Never change, fact boy.

  • @DT-hk3jb
    @DT-hk3jb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +127

    I have to say I have the utmost respect for George and his research. The depth and work he puts in always makes for truly amazing episodes don’t know if you see it but truly I can’t help but admire your work!

    • @paraic9163
      @paraic9163 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What was with the personal attack on the lawyer though? Thought it was very unfair and odd.

    • @Sputterbug
      @Sputterbug ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah I'm not a fan of intersecting lots of opinions

  • @RealElongatedMuskrat
    @RealElongatedMuskrat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +144

    Oh Simon! On the note of deep cleaners who fix up hoarder homes etc., I've actually known some people who do that job, and while it's harrowing at times (as you correctly assumed), it goes beyond being immensely satisfying to see the end result - often they're helping people who have fallen into deep depression, mental or physical illness generally, and are trapped in their own homes. Healthy people don't find themselves living in that kind of filth and chaos, and often those poor people are too ashamed to get help before then, or maybe just aren't able to. Those deep cleaning crews are giving people a second chance at life, in many ways. They free people from horrors that seemed impossible to change, give people back their dignity, and help them on the road to recovery. To living a life again. Imagine not being able to reach your kitchen sink, or have a real shower, sometimes for years? Living in filth and feeling totally unworthy of better circumstances, nevermind being incapable of doing all that heavy lifting to make the change on your own. It really is incredible, the friends I've known who do it have gotten beautiful thank you letters from clients years after the fact, telling them all about their lives now, and a lot of those folks don't go back to hoarding or drug use, whatever led them to that point. That boost of help and care is life changing. Big love to deep cleaning crews!!
    Edit: it reminds me of a lady I saw on Tiktok who detangles people's hair who haven't been able to brush their own hair in years (again mental or physical illness, usually). It takes days, but she detangles what you would look at and think "that needs shaved off, there's no saving that hair," then she washes, cuts and styles them. Giving people a sense of dignity and hope back, reminding them that they're worth caring about, can be achieved in many forms.

    • @theConquerersMama
      @theConquerersMama 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thank you for you comment.
      ❤️

    • @peacheswithleeches
      @peacheswithleeches 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      It's nice to know that there are such genuinely kind and patient people in the world, thank you.

    • @RealElongatedMuskrat
      @RealElongatedMuskrat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@theConquerersMama much love, friend!

    • @RealElongatedMuskrat
      @RealElongatedMuskrat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ​@@peacheswithleeches it's hard to remember that sometimes, isn't it? I certainly find myself feeling quite hopeless about the state of the world at times so whenever I have a chance to share a pleasant anecdote or a story I've come across, I'm always happy to! It's so important to be reminded of the good in people. There's lots of it out there, too ❤️❤️❤️

    • @jrmckim
      @jrmckim 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@RealElongatedMuskrat it's easy to get caught up in the rat race and forget there's so much good in the world too. I also needed to be reminded of that right now. I hope your day is a bit brighter ✨️ 💛

  • @tammywilks8782
    @tammywilks8782 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Simon, I believe what sets your show above the other crime series is that your empathy, dark humour and practicality really comes across. Thanks for keepin it real! 💯

  • @alexallen4698
    @alexallen4698 2 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    I do love the fact that Simon went from questioning the use of the death penalty to try to use it every episode and its perfect

    • @jennanail
      @jennanail 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      The fact that Pedro Lopez is out and about really traumatized him.

    • @AlexisArtemisGreenHoward1
      @AlexisArtemisGreenHoward1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I'm against the use of death penalty, the criminal shuld serve his sentence indefinitely. By hypothetically killing him you're doing him a favor.

    • @TheZayroen
      @TheZayroen ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@AlexisArtemisGreenHoward1 this isnt the thread to start this sort of conversation. This is just us commenting on Simon's change and why

    • @skyper8934
      @skyper8934 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@AlexisArtemisGreenHoward1 Most of them will be happy living in prison, since they have horrid backgrounds in society. You either use them as forced labor, or you are paying the rent for a monster. And trust me, those monsters fear death and having to deal with the one above

    • @realMal1c3
      @realMal1c3 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I asked a criminal pathologist that question once -- death penalty. She said, simply, "some people don't deserve their life." Though I concur with her, it's a tough thing to give beaurecrats such power.

  • @alousnamer
    @alousnamer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    George does an amazing job of keeping his scripts narratively dynamic without losing and threads or understanding of these complex stories, which is a very difficult balance. And Jen is always so on point with providing visuals to further clarify and enhance the story without destracting from it. And both Jen and George do so well maintaining a serious tone for a serious subject, while skill keeping some personal touches and bits of dark humor needed to digest these difficult tales. This is absolutely a benchmark other crime-casts should be measured against. Simon, whatever you do, you gotta keep this team -- they are elevating and distinguishing this channel among a sea of similiar content.

    • @paraic9163
      @paraic9163 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I found his personal attack on the lawyer odd, unfair and unprofessional though...

  • @ignitionfrn2223
    @ignitionfrn2223 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    5:10 - Chapter 1 - The photos
    10:40 - Chapter 2 - Arrest
    17:35 - Chapter 3 - The killer
    25:15 - Chapter 4 - The apartment (26:45 - 29:20 for gory section)
    29:25 - Chapter 5 - Subsequent investigations
    37:35 - Chapter 6 - The confession
    47:25 - Chapter 7 - Chen Yun Je (The 2nd victim)
    51:30 - Chapter 8 - Lian Xiu Yun (The 3rd victim)
    53:40 - Chapter 9 - Liang Hui Xin (The 4th victim)
    58:15 - Chapter 10 - Recovery & continued confession
    59:45 - Chapter 11 - The trial
    1:11:10 - Chapter 12 - Psychology
    1:17:40 - Chapter 13 - Prison life & aftermath
    1:19:45 - Chapter 14 - Closing remarks
    1:20:55 - Dismembered appendices

  • @RedactedATS
    @RedactedATS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    I'm developing a real fondness for George's scripts, his intrepid research into the stories we never hear about in the West really keeps me captivated, especially in these long form vids. Thanks George, I think you may be my favourite CasCrim writer 👍❤️🇬🇧

    • @paraic9163
      @paraic9163 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I found his personal attack on the lawyer odd, unfair and unprofessional though..

    • @wolfiemuse
      @wolfiemuse ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@paraic9163 I believe he is or was a lawyer and therefore is saying these things from a deeper knowledge about the craft and behavior. So I wouldn’t take it so seriously. There are by far more mediocre/bad lawyers than exceptionally good lawyers, as is the same in any profession

    • @jameernelson6715
      @jameernelson6715 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@paraic9163I know I'm a year late, but did you really feel the need to copy and paste this complaint on every thread complimenting the writer?

    • @paraic9163
      @paraic9163 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jameernelson6715 yes

  • @One_Proud_Papa
    @One_Proud_Papa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    George, you are amazing. The thing I most appreciated about your script is that anytime you mentioned the victims, you did so by name. By saying their name you further humanize them. Thank you for that.

    • @paraic9163
      @paraic9163 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He said the victims name.. wow.
      What was with the personal attack on the lawyer? I thought that was very unfair and odd from George. He also said his name when attacking his character for no reason.

    • @paraic9163
      @paraic9163 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MocaDK I've never once heard a true crime podcast that doesn't say the victims names...

    • @violet7773
      @violet7773 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He started by saying that he was going to focus on the victims and then did nothing more than list their names and occupation before focusing on Lam for the whole video. I've never seen a true crime show that doesn't mention the names of the known victims

    • @paraic9163
      @paraic9163 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@violet7773 exactly, but he loves tooting his own horn knowing he'll get all the lovely comments.

  • @dane1808
    @dane1808 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I used to do "trauma cleanup," and it was sadder than it was gross- unless it was maggots, the smell and sound of that many maggots makes me feel like they're crawling through my hair just thinking about it.
    Sometimes you'd also have clients who would stay while you were working, watching the pieces of their life (or loved one) are carried out in biohazard bags by a bunch of stoners trying not to vomit while being empathetic. Almost all of them were old, and sometimes you're carrying out the remains of animals and having to take them to very upset elderly people, which is devastating.
    Once, we had a set of nice wood bedroom furniture from a house fire. When people or animals burned, we often had to clean "protein" from the walls and surfaces, like slippery fat that accumulates in the smoke, I guess. Sometimes the result, between burning oak and burning people, is the smell of smoked pork, and I live somewhere known for bbq. A delivery guy stopped in, and he goes "Y'all have lunch delivered? Smells great in here!"
    Nah man, just degreasing what was formerly a human being from her death bed.

    • @ShellyS2060
      @ShellyS2060 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Hey, thank you for your work. Professional folks like you( I'd be stoned too) make an absolutely hideous time in my life a bit better.

    • @dane1808
      @dane1808 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@gooddoggo3547 Thank you, it was a job most of us took bc it paid well and seemed interesting, but it did end up turning into really caring about the people left behind. If you're ever in that situation, we'll always remember the stories you tell us about your loved one.

    • @dane1808
      @dane1808 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ShellyS2060 Pleased to do it, my friend. It's always easier when it's not your own who you're cleaning up after, but we do keep y'all in our thoughts.

  • @AnonXio
    @AnonXio 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    An hour has passed since I listened. Still quiet inside. Thank you George and Simon. Respect to all who deserve it. I look forward to the next HK installment

  • @wendyrichards7458
    @wendyrichards7458 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    As much as I appreciate the writing and editing (Always excellent ) I'm most gratified by Simon's engagement with the story .His honest reactions ,be they humorous or horrified ,lend a level of humanity to the whole experience .It's so much more relatable than the polished and remote narration that generally accompanies true crime shows .There's nothing wrong with an impersonal and smooth narration but watching Simon questioning ,musing and connecting with the script in real time (ish) is simply a more personal and inclusive style .Long live CC ,it's a real You Tube highlight .

  • @Charley.Farley
    @Charley.Farley 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Yesss Casual Criminalist time!!! Listening to CC is (obviously) amazing content wise, and so well written, but also bizarrely helpful for my anxiety. Perhaps it's Simon's tangents? :D
    Thank you for all your hard work, Simon, George and Jen.
    Just make sure you look after yourself, Simon.

  • @petebenes948
    @petebenes948 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    My favorite part of this script is how often George put the names of Chen Feng Lan, Chen Yun Jie, Liang Xiu Yun, and Liang Hui Xin in there. Often times the script will lump the victims together as “the victims,” and I really appreciated how George took the road less travelled, and listed their names each time.
    I recognize that this guy “only” having 4 victims makes this a tad bit easier than, say, someone with a double digit kill count, but it is still a wonderful gesture that I certainly noticed, and it certainly kept their names alive in my mind.
    Thank you George for such an awesome script, and thank you Simon for keeping the usual shenanigans and Tom foolery to a minimum when you mentioned their names.

  • @pslinky
    @pslinky 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    My cousin in Tennessee is a crime scene cleaner. Never heard of a detective doing it, when would they have time in addition to investigate and see their families? I'm excited about this one, I've never heard it, those are the best! Thx Simon

  • @Missmori
    @Missmori 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    every crime show focuses on the UK or US, sometimes Australia... its so nice to get more international stuff, and i love it. thank you George, and Simon. and of course the almighty and amazing Jenn.

  • @mycroft_moriarty
    @mycroft_moriarty 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    First, Simon: Knowing entirely too well about dark ideas lingering for...entirely too long... Take care of yourself, friend. You've become an Internet Staple, and without your...baffling number of channels, my week would be far longer than it feels at present. You are valued, appreciated, and matter to more people than you can possibly know. I promise you.
    Second, George: As someone who's done professional research and writing before, you are a true professional's professional. Seriously, genuinely good work, time, and time again. I love the depths to which you go to get to the facts, the integrity you show, and your clever and engaging authorial voice. You're one of the best out there!
    Next, Jenn: Thanks for keeping it all together. It wouldn't be a "Whistler Production" without all you do! I wish I could be more detailed but I think it's a sign of your craft that the best work you do is harder to pin down. But it's still obvious the tremendous impact your work has on the final production.
    Finally, to the whole team. All of you, keep up the astonishingly hard work of making our free moments more interesting, and at times...chilling...but all in good measure. All the best, to each and every one of you.

  • @BaiiBaii22
    @BaiiBaii22 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I’ve binged all of the CC videos and my favorite part about all of them are the tangents. Simon’s personality definitely keeps me hooked along with the stories!

  • @charlot-temisery
    @charlot-temisery 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I love how George writes his scripts. he doesn't try and pretty anything up, and doesn't go into any disturbing details that are unnecessary to get the point across. just enough hinting at the gravity of the crimes without making us feel sick about having to listen to every damn detail. i've seen other true crime youtubers cover the jars murderer before and its definitely more detailed than they ever did, but still so much more tasteful.

    • @paraic9163
      @paraic9163 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      He also made a very odd personal attack on the lawyer for some bizarre reason which I found very odd and unprofessional.

  • @davidbennettracing538
    @davidbennettracing538 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Brilliant script George- damned fine writing, a nice and respectful balance of what happened and honouring the victims.

    • @paraic9163
      @paraic9163 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I found his personal attack on the lawyer odd, unfair and unprofessional though..

  • @KevinSparenberg
    @KevinSparenberg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    George's work is stellar. I wish other content creators would do half as much work. I'm truly in awe.

  • @katwitanruna
    @katwitanruna 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    May the memories of love outweigh the grief of loss.

  • @DizzyME13
    @DizzyME13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I’m so glad I found this channel last week! I like the approach of the channel creator; while he makes lighthearted remarks, he doesn’t do it in a way that is disrespectful to the victims, it just helps to make the information a little easier to digest. ✌️🎃

    • @sktbug6833
      @sktbug6833 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      All of his channels are fantastic, check them out 😊

  • @FoxSaysDerps
    @FoxSaysDerps 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    George's writing and Holmesesque dedication to research with Jen's on-point editing is truly brilliant.

  • @TDM4224
    @TDM4224 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I still miss Callum, but all of the writers for this show are very good.
    George’s research though…
    It brings things to a whole new level and it’s just amazing to think of the time and effort he puts into these cases.
    I hope he knows it is very much appreciated.

    • @wolfiemuse
      @wolfiemuse ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wait is Callum not working for Simon anymore?

    • @TDM4224
      @TDM4224 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I hope he is, but I haven’t seen any he’s written in a very long time

    • @Good-bb6sb
      @Good-bb6sb 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hes.... in the basement.
      Calum anger his tv show host overlord. We will find the body.

  • @MangaMaster13
    @MangaMaster13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I saw "The Jars Murderer" and immediately thought of Jar-Jar Binks. There's probably something wrong with me.

    • @nonnayerbusiness7704
      @nonnayerbusiness7704 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I mean we've all accepted theory that he is Sith lord, so it is an easy connection for the brain to make between Jar-jar and murder.

  • @MGscribe
    @MGscribe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Always fun, even though I’m apart of the team, to see a new video and it be of a case I’ve never heard of!

  • @JanetSnakehole28
    @JanetSnakehole28 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good job George - your meticulous research & the care you put into writing the scripts remain wonderful. As for the mental illness related question, from what I know about 'dark triad' personalities (narcissism, sociopathy, Machiavellianism), they know the difference between right & wrong, but they believe they're above the laws & social norms that mere mortals follow, so they disregard these & just do what they want. They also have some empathy, but they only use it in a performative sense, like 'oh, I'm at a funeral & you're supposed to cry at funerals, so I'll squeeze out some tears to look normal'.
    Personality disorders tend to be created in early childhood as a defence mechanism. They're taught from a young age that their parent sees them as 'bad', so they create a fake front to protect their ego. Other kids raised in toxic homes can go to the opposite side of the spectrum & become highly sensitive, empathetic 'people pleasers', which this dude definitely wasn't.
    Yet another example of the rule 'don't eff up your kids'

  • @kristiskinner6485
    @kristiskinner6485 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Thank you George for such a wonderful script, and sensitive memorial to the victims. Also, four language you big brain! Wonderful presentation again, Simon complete with tangents. Jen thank you for your work and your excellently timed mental health breaks aka Memes.

    • @paraic9163
      @paraic9163 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I found his personal attack on the lawyer odd, unfair and unprofessional though..

  • @jrmckim
    @jrmckim 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Oh thank God! Always a great day when I see CC pop up

  • @doesitmatter3642
    @doesitmatter3642 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I'm actually looking forward to less grim and dark episode. This was brutal. Thank you George for the incredibly well written script, and like many others here I appreciate you making sure the victims are remembered. Simon, thank you also for reading this brutal story, take care and take a break. Jen, fantastic editor - amazing job as always, thank you for the extra work you put in.

    • @paraic9163
      @paraic9163 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I found his personal attack on the lawyer odd, unfair and unprofessional though..

  • @RealPumpkinJay
    @RealPumpkinJay 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    “Thank you for keeping it CSI and not Saw…” speaks out of my heart.

  • @ryanc473
    @ryanc473 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Oh man, a George CC script. Honestly made my day here, it's been far too long, and his scripts are so freaking awesome! The level of research is just...incredible

    • @paraic9163
      @paraic9163 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I found his personal attack on the lawyer odd, unfair and unprofessional though

  • @gavinrussell8448
    @gavinrussell8448 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love the psychology aspect of the video, as a old psychology graduate this is deffo needed for the types of video these are, what personality they carry the whole this adds up

  • @edgarespinosa3518
    @edgarespinosa3518 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Finally, much is not known about this serial killer, looking forward to this take.

  • @samanthaz2131
    @samanthaz2131 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you George and Simon!

  • @N0Buddy
    @N0Buddy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I remember that there was a movie based on this killer. I remember it because it was very mature rated and I was way too young to be watching it. I am glad to finally get the real story behind it.

  • @ShellyS2060
    @ShellyS2060 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I worked for a one hour photo in the 90's. Our policy was "call the authorities if anything looks odd" Imagine how embarrassed I was when I processed and printed a roll of film that I was sure was a creepy, stalker type. Turns out it was a private investigation and the reason the lady in the pics didn't know she was having her pictures taken was because she was cheating on her husband.

    • @HavianEla
      @HavianEla ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You shouldn’t be embarrassed for trying to do the right thing! You did good!

    • @adde9506
      @adde9506 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Don't be embarrassed. You read those pictures right, they just happened to fall into a legal loophole for following and photographing someone without their consent. It is genuinely creepy.

  • @melaniesullivan770
    @melaniesullivan770 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love this channel, our illustrious leader and his fantastic writers and the work they do as well as beautiful Jen for all her hard work as well. I love how it's about remembering the victims and not the killers.
    Love you all.

  • @ianngo9514
    @ianngo9514 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Every time Cas Crim tackles a case in Asia makes me wish they do one about the Nida Blanca murder. Growing up in the Philippines at that time, it was all over the news and captured everyone's attention. Sadly, I don't think that one has been resolved, but from what I understand, the guilty party should be burning in hell by now.

  • @lynnkay417
    @lynnkay417 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ooo, Never heard of this one! Yay! Thank you George, Jen, and Simon!

  • @EvaL-ti2jd
    @EvaL-ti2jd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    oh yes George is back with a new script! With the amount of work he has put in his other scripts I am looking forwards to this

    • @-MarcusAurelius
      @-MarcusAurelius 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      George goes above and beyond with his research. I love his scripts!

  • @KawaiiKasai
    @KawaiiKasai 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I catch every episode of CC and I also enjoy the wacky crimes as a nice break from horrific murders. It's also a nice break from other true crime shows in general.
    Looking forward to it!

  • @PeachM0de
    @PeachM0de 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another great episode, George. And Jen, thank you for what you do as always.

  • @Nazookblook
    @Nazookblook ปีที่แล้ว

    Another excellent script from George, well done! I appreciate how thorough and accurate his research is and it's definitely a boon that he has the ability to access the primary sources and is willing to slog through them to help relay the information to a wider audience that would otherwise be unable to learn about these things, or at least not with as much depth or accuracy. It must be especially difficult when the material is so dark and soul sucking too and has the ability to stay with you and be potentially traumatic. He really did a good job of trying to focus on and humanize the victims of the crime as well and it's always good when these cases are approached with such compassion and respect for the privacy and feelings of those directly effected by the case. And while it's generally in my nature to seek as much detailed info as possible it is a good thing that this show is more CSI less Saw, like you keep the gory details to what's necessary, while still being like hey there is more nitty gritty details out there and you can look it up if you feel it's necessary but that's not what we're about here. Definitely hope you were able to take a little brain vacation after this case and decompress a bit cause it sounds like the glossed over details were ROUGH. I can certainly understand George's desire to personally let the perpetrator know just what a bastard he is after having to personally slog through the worst parts of this case so he can filter it for us, even if it's not something I'd do myself...I totally get it.
    And as always shout out to Jen and her awesome editing skills and sense of humor that help add a little much needed levity to things and that help make sure the content is as smooth and watchable as possible.

  • @FrankieJayUK
    @FrankieJayUK 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "Thanks for making this CSI and not Saw" - *chefs kiss* for that quote

  • @emmarichardson965
    @emmarichardson965 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you, George, for making me almost choke on a berry with that bit about the Triad-toppling, embezzling police officer. Definitely looking forward to that one!

  • @maddiethomas5892
    @maddiethomas5892 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    24:48 One of the reasons I watch Mr. Whistler's channels, aside from the most awesome Mr. Whistler himself, is the excellent writing and extensive research. Plus the fantastic editing, with very well timed memes. This is an exceptional team!

  • @wrothbowsy208
    @wrothbowsy208 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This had alot of consideration for this victims. I love writing when it is more CSI not saw. Thank you George

  • @ka1_7i55a
    @ka1_7i55a 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    George’s writing always makes for the best episodes.

    • @paraic9163
      @paraic9163 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I found his personal attack on the lawyer odd, unfair and unprofessional though..

  • @Valhallonex
    @Valhallonex 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    love the long video thanks Simon

  • @wendycharles9576
    @wendycharles9576 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another brilliantly writen script by George. I love your scripts. I appreciate the hard work you put into them. I look forward to your next one.

  • @Poisonwc
    @Poisonwc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video, guys! We appreciate you so much, George, Simon, and Jen. You do so much to make the victims not be forgotten. :: hugs :: Thank you!

  • @user-dg9pu4pe9d
    @user-dg9pu4pe9d 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    As always an excellent script by George.
    Unless I missed it, Simon did not go off about Pedro Lopez. Maybe he is getting over the trauma.

    • @alexandergreenfield91
      @alexandergreenfield91 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm sure Pedro will be making another appearance soon enough bud.

  • @kendraspenard8792
    @kendraspenard8792 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A very written script, George. I appreciate the respectful, and well put together content, Simon, Jen and George! This is By Far my favorite true crime source!

  • @williebauld1007
    @williebauld1007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ooooooh a long episode?? Cracking way to kick the weekend off TangentBoi 👌👍

  • @samsharp1442
    @samsharp1442 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Outstanding job as always George! I don't know if we're supposed to pick favourites but you would definitely my vote

  • @jacobchicks3523
    @jacobchicks3523 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A good job done as always Simon

  • @LexAnnalyn
    @LexAnnalyn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    All of the Casual Criminalist writers are good, but I feel like George in particular sets an example for all of us who wield the pen (or keyboard). The commitment to quality research and responsible writing is encouraging. So is the appreciation that Simon and all these viewers/listeners show. I assume Simon shows his appreciation in how he pays George and the rest of the writers, too.

  • @stevehastings4010
    @stevehastings4010 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    As usual, great job. Once again the editing made this video head and shoulders above the rest.

  • @maryfuller4259
    @maryfuller4259 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love all the script writing from them all. They do such a good job.

  • @disc0lizard
    @disc0lizard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This script was incredible, thank you George + Simon!

  • @ScottLovenberg
    @ScottLovenberg 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great episode! I love the narrating and parallel threads that give me what I need to know as I need to know it.

  • @robertslater8293
    @robertslater8293 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Anyone think that the science of science fiction is Simon's version of mental health care after doing all these?

    • @xBruceLee88x
      @xBruceLee88x 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Probably needs it by now

    • @jrssae
      @jrssae 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      💯

    • @TheNaldiin
      @TheNaldiin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      until Kevin from DtU manages to work Pedro L in.

    • @brendakrieger7000
      @brendakrieger7000 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Most likely!

    • @z31drifterlf
      @z31drifterlf 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well megaprojects used to do theoretical megaprojects, but I think Simon decided to split it off into it's own channel.

  • @AngloLee
    @AngloLee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    George is my favorite writer. His research is phenomenal. And this was a terrible thing to hear. Humanity is littered with putrescent sores like this guy.

  • @EmilyJelassi
    @EmilyJelassi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I always like George’s scripts.. they’re so well written and he always makes sure that we know about the victims and their names before he gets down to the terrible crime(s). The level and depth of the research is truly amazing. Simon really does have an incredible collection of fantastic writers and editors who do a wonderful job on each and every video. Well done Simon and team! 👏🏻💯🙌🏻
    Btw, what happened to Callum??

    • @paraic9163
      @paraic9163 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I found his personal attack on the lawyer odd, unfair and unprofessional though..

  • @katattack907
    @katattack907 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love the focus on repeating the names of the victims. RIP, lovely young women. You deserved better.

  • @ynnaffanny5327
    @ynnaffanny5327 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I recently found this channel and I’ve watched/listened to hours and hours of it every day since. I thought mr Ballen and That chapter was the best true crime channels but this is just pure gold. Both Simon and the writers are the best of the best !

    • @Unknowngfyjoh
      @Unknowngfyjoh 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mr. Ballen makes half the shit up. Try googling his stories. You find it odd if you can't find anything else about it? That's why I stopped watching him.

    • @GamingNinja132
      @GamingNinja132 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Unknowngfyjoh would like some examples to look into myself if you don't mind. I've heard several of his stories on other channels but a lot of them do sound awfully scripted

    • @Unknowngfyjoh
      @Unknowngfyjoh 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GamingNinja132 the one where the kidnapper had the prearranged room for the girl with photos and stuff

    • @callysushi1043
      @callysushi1043 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Welcome to the CC community! I would give my left arm to have discovered this channel for the first time again 😂🥰

  • @pjsparrow5904
    @pjsparrow5904 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really appreciate the fact that there are writers from all over because it really helps bring to light crimes from around the world and that we (Americans at least) likely would never have known about previously.

  • @dickhead5582
    @dickhead5582 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seriously who wants to listen to Simon for almost one and a half hours? 🙂

  • @jasonsearle7832
    @jasonsearle7832 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your style on your scripts George. And the attention to the victims in this one.

  • @MrOwl-mw3fb
    @MrOwl-mw3fb 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done, George. Well done, Simon. Thank you for highlighting the victims and their memories.

  • @georgialeigh7977
    @georgialeigh7977 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    More George content please, his writing is easily digestible and enthralling.

    • @paraic9163
      @paraic9163 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I found his personal attack on the lawyer odd, unfair and unprofessional though..

  • @JimmyTyner
    @JimmyTyner 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love how the Casual Criminalist is more CSI and less Saw than other True Crimes, especially George's scripts!

  • @TheSleepSteward
    @TheSleepSteward ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Here's the thing. I understand the difference that we make between 'sick' individuals and then cold blooded murderers. But neither are sound of mind. Sure, there's nothing clinically wrong with them or their body and brain or maybe only hints of psychopathy or sociopathy, but regardless, they did this. They committed those crimes. Whether or not it can be detected by scans or from psychological evaluations, does not erase the fact that no sound human being is capable of becoming specifically a serial killer with sadistic tendencies. There's no doubt there's something wrong with him, but that applies to every single serial killer. I do however acknowledge that some serial killers or just murderers in general are sound of mind in the sense that they've acquired a warped sense of reality and as such, they've justified their acts of violence. Seeing it as morally right. The right thing to do, the right way to live, that they've done a service to society with their acts. Lam Kor Wan is not apart of this populous. It is abundantly clear that he understood that what he did and was doing was bad. He tried to hide the bodies, tried to dump them, hid the tapes and photos, and kept quiet about it whilst continuing and evading police as best as he could. On top of that, for the last victim, (I'm sorry it had to end like that Leung Wai-sum), he felt guilt. He said it himself that he felt bad for her, felt remorse. That is not because he cared for her, because he did not. Maybe in his mind he cared in his own way but he hasn't given much reason to believe that he saw it as right in his mind. In fact he has said the opposite. He would take advantage of these women, kill them through a horrifically terrifying way to go (stragulation), and then recorded himself dissecting the bodies, and photographing the corpses. Hell if torture and then death was a possible sentence in Hong Kong, give it to him. In the worst way possible. An eye for an eye in many ways but he took the lives of 4 innocent young women... There's only so much we could do to him, and it would never equal the suffering he inflicted on them. I don't believe in a heaven or hell but... After your prison sentence that you're still serving, rot in hell for as long as you stay there. Or in other words, enjoy it forever.
    Chan Fung-lan just 22 years old. Chan Wan-kit just 31 years old. Leung Sau-wan just 29 years old. Leung Wai-sum just 17 years old. They just wanted to live. And they did, even if it was for a short time. And I bet they were wonderful women; each with their own personality, laughs, guilty pleasures and struggles. I wonder what each of their favourite films were. Maybe that's a positive thing to leave it on. Celebrating the time that they were here with us and how they were special to everyone around them. In their own special and unique way. That no one could ever replace.

  • @Fclwilson
    @Fclwilson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I appreciate that you respect the victims and the feelings of their friends and families.

  • @Alex-tm4fz
    @Alex-tm4fz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Recent subscriber of some of the channels and love the script writing, editing and presentation of the videos, everyone on your team is doing amazing

  • @kasahadragon9499
    @kasahadragon9499 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thankyou George, your respect for the victims says a lot about yourself.

  • @Allofmynerd
    @Allofmynerd ปีที่แล้ว +1

    George is hands down my fav writer on the show. And I think this show is separate from so many other crime shows because of the focus on the victims and it's the best😊

  • @donnasilvio3974
    @donnasilvio3974 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I watch many true crime videos. Most are just soooo sloooooow. Between ones with the time-consuming pseudo reenactments or just the narrator speaking like they are TRYING to streeeetch it out to hit a certain length. Even 15-30min videos can be like this. They make me enormously happy TH-cam has the Playback Speed options so I can not miss anything said while watching it in like half the time.
    Simon, you are NOT one of those channels. Even when your videos are like 2 hours long & filled with asides & rantings, I never feel like you're really slow moving in getting the story & facts out there. All the extras just add to the entertainment vibe cutting through info about awful criminal activities & gruesome murders.
    Thanks Simon & crew. You're my favorites. 💜

  • @norecipenecessary6864
    @norecipenecessary6864 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The recurrent naming of the women….. thank you for saying their names.

  • @chrisharmon8858
    @chrisharmon8858 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Sooo... with the stats Simon gave us a while back about the amount of psychopaths / serial killers per capita world wide your telling me this guy was Hong Kong's first serial killer? More likely this is the first one they connected to more than one killing.

  • @VidsAtLarge
    @VidsAtLarge 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It brings me so much joy seeing Simon's appreciation for George. W friendship

  • @abseessea3141
    @abseessea3141 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i can't wait for the crocked cop video that was mentioned near the end!! Anndd he embezzled money and skipped town ?!!! I LOVE Heist/ Police beating gangsters' videos!!! It's like an ice Coffee' binge in True Crime format for me! I NEED IT! I'M SO EXITED!!! :D

  • @OnTheRocksTalks
    @OnTheRocksTalks 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Utmost respect for George and Simon for sticking to the facts, sticking to the recognition of the victims, and doing some proper research.

  • @pamelamays4186
    @pamelamays4186 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    George, another awesome job of script writing!

  • @RubyKat9184
    @RubyKat9184 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This channel quickly became my favorite true crime because of the efforts of Simon and the writers to make it more about the facts and the victims over the gore and the perpetrators. More CSI, less Saw is a great way to put it 😁

  • @tvoyelitsoglupoye2326
    @tvoyelitsoglupoye2326 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I discovered Casual Crimanalist a few months ago. I've never been into serial killers or true crime but this channel is so good and Simon going off script adds something special. I started binging it.
    I caught a couple of Brain Blaze episodes this week; i forgot what Simon was like when he is in a good mood. This shit is distrurbing and seriously effects you. I don't know how Simon does it.

  • @trollkingtv5727
    @trollkingtv5727 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    George's work is always excellent ill watch anything remotely Hong Kong sounding even if it's not one of the violent ones. Lookong forward to some triad busting

  • @taylormademyself89
    @taylormademyself89 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Always ready to watch sum new cc anytime lol 😎🤟

  • @blueboltshrimp
    @blueboltshrimp 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you George's research and not going into the extra horrific details

  • @megaroni4765
    @megaroni4765 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just discovered my headphones work a flight of stairs away from my computer, so now I can to ALL my chores with Fact Boy.

  • @ImFreeNowWhatMichelleFortier
    @ImFreeNowWhatMichelleFortier ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Having listened to the defense attorney of John Wayne Gacy (I think), they report feeling like they are defending the constitution, not the person. He also reported that providing the best defense also stops a lot of the appeals that a criminal can do if they have shitty defense. So in a weird way, when they are putting together a good defense of someone who is clearly guilty, it makes sure the jury’s guilty verdict is not overturned on appeal.

  • @aatheus
    @aatheus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    George's scripts are very interesting and very well investigated. Nice work

  • @amemooress6291
    @amemooress6291 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love these Boston Legal references. XD I even remember that scene! Legend.

    • @william.h7594
      @william.h7594 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      do you know what scene he was talking about? I'm trynna find that scene on TH-cam

  • @michellegrobler9732
    @michellegrobler9732 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Boston Legal is epic and a must watch. One of the better "law" type series because of the types of cases that are delt with and the humor between characters. Also, what I found enduring is the friendship between "Alan Shaw" and "Danny Crane".