Ah this supports Robert Greene's explanation in his book Mastery. He has mentioned this exact Italian research team and explains that mirror neurons are key to learning and attaining skills from watching others.
The golden nugget that we should realize is that you can get good at anything just by watching sombody else do it. for example: want to get good at art? watch youtube videos on art. Want to get good at building stuff? watch youtube videos on construction. Remeber that the mirror neurons are firing in your brain giving you the experiance. This is a freaken brilliant presentation. Peace and love.
well but that's actually wrong for the most part. You can't get good at anything just by watching it. getting good at motor skills involves you doing it. It is true that watching others evokes a mental representation and it's true that the more mental representation of something you have, the easier it is to learn it, but you do still have to go trough the work and actually learn it.
2:16 Happens to me when I play volleyball and my teammate is about to catch a ball. My hand just twitches and does what I would do in a situation like my teammate's. I realize that when it is already happening.
Humans learn by observation. As do many other animals. The power of human brain is in its ability to emulate virtual experience and learn from it as if it was for real. Human brain's virtualization capabilities can create complex emulations that can involve full-blown physical sensations and can affect biochemical processes in the body. So, yeah - it is quite amazing and yet to be discovered by science. So exciting!
I first met prof Ramachandran throughout a series broadcast by BBC back in 2000, then I read his book, then belly down, my acknowledgment and thankfulness to you professor, it has changed my mind.
Recently had to write a paper on mirror neurons and as a result I invite everyone to take what this man is saying with a pinch of salt. Obviously, he is a great thinker and researcher, but what he is saying is only one of many theories, because there isn't enough evidence to infer everything that he presents as if it was a firm conclusion. Many scientists aren't really convinced that mirror neurons play all the roles that have been ascribed to them. I suggest reading Hickok's overview of problems regarding mirror neuron theory.
He has elaborated about this in his book - 'The tell tale brain'. And his "mirror therapy" has been quite effective for patients with phantom limb pain.
I agree wholehartedly. I'm doing a course where we had to read different literature about mirror neurons - it's just not that simple. Especially if they are the "source" of the understanding behind an action, or what understanding is anyway, but I feel that there are many more layers than just "It's the mirror neurons". I was surprised on how little empirical evidence is about this, since it's quite a commonly known phenomenon. I just don't think that in the complexity of our brain a single group of neurons is responsible for basically our whole being.
Thank you. People are easily impressed by "great thinkers" who are articulate and effective at communicating their ideas. I don't automatically subscribe brilliance to people like that. Its good to be able to entertain, understand various perspectives. Better to be able to find truths that may underly them all.
this can be explained by the law of projections which all sensory neurons in body follow.. only the stimulation of a particular area in the brain is required to create a particular sensation, the nerve need not be stimulated.. so even when an arm and its nerves are cut, if the sensory area for the arm in the brain is stimulated, then the person would feel as if his arm is being touched or pinched even if actually his arm is absent..
If somebody's phantom arm is picking up pain from watching violence of some kind does that mean the protective neurons aren't working well? Is something faulty there or am I'm misunderstanding or maybe he left something out?
there is no 'spiritual' connection involved; it's still all physical (vision, in this context, is still a 'physical connection'), and i am willing to bet that if he tried his experiment with blindfolded people, that phenomena would not be demonstrated (as one would think it would be if the cause was some spiritual or 'purely mental' connection). it is the visual cue that triggers the firing of the neurons involved, and that visual cue is generated from purely and only physical processes.
ThothBob he never mentioned a spiritual connection and was well aware that visual cues cause activation of mirror neurons. His statement was that when the hand's ability to transmit information to the brain was numbed due to anesthesia the brain loses its ability to differentiate between contact made with your hand and someone else's hand
@@noxturn8620 he entered eastern ideology mate, that we are connected in spiritual way, buy Bob is right here - take a blindfold and nothing will happen.
I watched a TV documentary on intelligence of animal world for their food and survival. They too have wonderful intelligence which is getting evolved over each instance and they can successfully share the knowledge to their off spring, and utilizing the ecosystem to the best extent for living. I think, only human i is trying to compare and compare saying "civilization exits only in humans". I don't think so.
Some might say that the MIND contemplates the vastness of interstellar space, the meaning of infinity, its own existence; God,...that the brain is the hardware the mind uses.
I think about the next Darwinian (saltation) leap forward and that could come in the sudden, amped-up use of the mirror circuit, particularly in the neural seat of empathy. Imagine a new normal where all human "thought" is filtered first and last through an enhanced network where care for other humans governs all human action be it politics, religion, everyday relationships. Clumsy nation-states, laws, religions, inter-personal, all of it always tempered and literally FELT as part of the process, a neural network on a global scale. What would happen if our lower pre-central gyrus and STS grew substantially over the next 200 years? What if it could be stimulated into action, to play a much larger role in our lives. Could war itself even exist anymore?
For trainers, check out this research with VS's information in mind...think about how we could design training in motor skills being mindful of what the research supports. Very interesting for trainers and curriculum developers. Ellenbuerger, T., Boutin, A., Blandin, Y., Shea, C. H., & Panzer, S. (2012). Scheduling observational and physical practice: Influence on the coding of simple motor sequences. Quarterly Journal of Experimental Psychology, 65(7), 1260-1273
Some small questions, like, most probably it is not just the receptors on the skin who prevents someone to get confused just from the emphatic sensations... Ramachandran, even in a very good talk, may be, he doesn t want to accept a Self or even a Spirit....
lamb ele in terms of phantom limb syndrome only part of the neurone was destroyed, the other part is there so if you pretend to hurt the phantom limb the remaining parts of neurones in nerve systems sends pain to the brain, anesthesia may still allow for the arm pain if it only anesthetized some of the neurones
Dear Doctor would you claim "A knowledge" and contemplate on behavioral origins of "heart bleeding" (brain blood barometric science) Since your "Mirror-Box" was such "a break through" invention for other countries with different Latitude, Longitude and Elevation... edited on 21st of May
@@Mindbodyamit Actually, no, lol. I just now heard of this dude. I'm dealing with some super strange symptoms so I'm looking further into these types of videos/people to find more answers.
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The man is soooo brilliant. His neurons are firing faster than the speed of light.
I mean, you're not wrong
*A lesser known fact*
He's the grandson of ALLADI KRISHNASWAMY IYER, one of the founding fathers of Indian Constitution
I think Iyers r very special.
@@usc4405 srinivasa ramanujan iyer
Ah this supports Robert Greene's explanation in his book Mastery. He has mentioned this exact Italian research team and explains that mirror neurons are key to learning and attaining skills from watching others.
He is brilliant. This man is my hero ❤️❤️
The golden nugget that we should realize is that you can get good at anything just by watching sombody else do it. for example: want to get good at art? watch youtube videos on art. Want to get good at building stuff? watch youtube videos on construction. Remeber that the mirror neurons are firing in your brain giving you the experiance. This is a freaken brilliant presentation. Peace and love.
well but that's actually wrong for the most part. You can't get good at anything just by watching it. getting good at motor skills involves you doing it. It is true that watching others evokes a mental representation and it's true that the more mental representation of something you have, the easier it is to learn it, but you do still have to go trough the work and actually learn it.
To an extent… you can see the motions but you can’t experience the thought processes that spawned those motions.
+1 Pretty trippy thought though.
And by extension we can get better at doing this just by imagining them as well
Many such cases out there
That was pretty awesome. Interest in neuroscience just got doubled.
Wow. That conclusion is sick. Great guy.
2:16 Happens to me when I play volleyball and my teammate is about to catch a ball. My hand just twitches and does what I would do in a situation like my teammate's. I realize that when it is already happening.
Humans learn by observation. As do many other animals. The power of human brain is in its ability to emulate virtual experience and learn from it as if it was for real. Human brain's virtualization capabilities can create complex emulations that can involve full-blown physical sensations and can affect biochemical processes in the body. So, yeah - it is quite amazing and yet to be discovered by science. So exciting!
The summary of 1/3 of the book the tell-tale brain in 7 understandable minutes. amazing.
congratulations for your continuos education efforts.
I first met prof Ramachandran throughout a series broadcast by BBC back in 2000, then I read his book, then belly down, my acknowledgment and thankfulness to you professor, it has changed my mind.
Outstanding! Thank you!
Great talk!
"Act", "mimic", "perceive" (but not through tactile senses) and "protect"
Recently had to write a paper on mirror neurons and as a result I invite everyone to take what this man is saying with a pinch of salt. Obviously, he is a great thinker and researcher, but what he is saying is only one of many theories, because there isn't enough evidence to infer everything that he presents as if it was a firm conclusion. Many scientists aren't really convinced that mirror neurons play all the roles that have been ascribed to them. I suggest reading Hickok's overview of problems regarding mirror neuron theory.
He has elaborated about this in his book - 'The tell tale brain'. And his "mirror therapy" has been quite effective for patients with phantom limb pain.
I agree wholehartedly. I'm doing a course where we had to read different literature about mirror neurons - it's just not that simple. Especially if they are the "source" of the understanding behind an action, or what understanding is anyway, but I feel that there are many more layers than just "It's the mirror neurons". I was surprised on how little empirical evidence is about this, since it's quite a commonly known phenomenon. I just don't think that in the complexity of our brain a single group of neurons is responsible for basically our whole being.
Thank you. People are easily impressed by "great thinkers" who are articulate and effective at communicating their ideas. I don't automatically subscribe brilliance to people like that. Its good to be able to entertain, understand various perspectives. Better to be able to find truths that may underly them all.
Very interesting. Thank you.
Outstanding explanation. Human minds are more full of mysteries than any written books
Brilliant.
this can be explained by the law of projections which all sensory neurons in body follow.. only the stimulation of a particular area in the brain is required to create a particular sensation, the nerve need not be stimulated.. so even when an arm and its nerves are cut, if the sensory area for the arm in the brain is stimulated, then the person would feel as if his arm is being touched or pinched even if actually his arm is absent..
Culture has a LOT more power than we realise and there's good and bad points to it.
Absolutely amazing!
If somebody's phantom arm is picking up pain from watching violence of some kind does that mean the protective neurons aren't working well? Is something faulty there or am I'm misunderstanding or maybe he left something out?
2:34 Mirror Neurons behind imitation
Much Respect 🙏 👏
there is no 'spiritual' connection involved; it's still all physical (vision, in this context, is still a 'physical connection'), and i am willing to bet that if he tried his experiment with blindfolded people, that phenomena would not be demonstrated (as one would think it would be if the cause was some spiritual or 'purely mental' connection). it is the visual cue that triggers the firing of the neurons involved, and that visual cue is generated from purely and only physical processes.
ThothBob he never mentioned a spiritual connection and was well aware that visual cues cause activation of mirror neurons. His statement was that when the hand's ability to transmit information to the brain was numbed due to anesthesia the brain loses its ability to differentiate between contact made with your hand and someone else's hand
@@noxturn8620 he entered eastern ideology mate, that we are connected in spiritual way, buy Bob is right here - take a blindfold and nothing will happen.
I watched a TV documentary on intelligence of animal world for their food and survival. They too have wonderful intelligence which is getting evolved over each instance and they can successfully share the knowledge to their off spring, and utilizing the ecosystem to the best extent for living. I think, only human i is trying to compare and compare saying "civilization exits only in humans". I don't think so.
The mind creates all feeling. You do not need to be touched to feel touch. Look up fantom limb syndrome.
Thats what vedanta says
brilliant man
Some might say that the MIND contemplates the vastness of interstellar space, the meaning of infinity, its own existence; God,...that the brain is the hardware the mind uses.
wonderfull
Robert Greene wrote a chapter about him in MASTERY
I think about the next Darwinian (saltation) leap forward and that could come in the sudden, amped-up use of the mirror circuit, particularly in the neural seat of empathy. Imagine a new normal where all human "thought" is filtered first and last through an enhanced network where care for other humans governs all human action be it politics, religion, everyday relationships. Clumsy nation-states, laws, religions, inter-personal, all of it always tempered and literally FELT as part of the process, a neural network on a global scale. What would happen if our lower pre-central gyrus and STS grew substantially over the next 200 years? What if it could be stimulated into action, to play a much larger role in our lives. Could war itself even exist anymore?
Could it be that psychopaths have faulty mirror-neurons?
+Sean Conley Yes I read that is a theory as well
No. Psychopaths know but just don't care. With autism you care but
just don't know.
here is video about Psychopathic
www.ted.com/talks/jim_fallon_exploring_the_mind_of_a_killer
An interesting question, since they have enhanced empathy but no compassion. I suspect there’s a lot more going on besides mirror neurons…
How would you explain why other animals have mirror neurons?
For trainers, check out this research with VS's information in mind...think about how we could design training in motor skills being mindful of what the research supports. Very interesting for trainers and curriculum developers.
Ellenbuerger, T., Boutin, A., Blandin, Y., Shea, C. H., & Panzer, S. (2012). Scheduling observational and physical practice: Influence on the coding of simple motor sequences. Quarterly Journal of Experimental Psychology, 65(7), 1260-1273
I’m here after reading Norman doiges book
This guy gives me the biggest neurection.
Woah!
Some small questions, like, most probably it is not just the receptors on the skin who prevents someone to get confused just from the emphatic sensations... Ramachandran, even in a very good talk, may be, he doesn t want to accept a Self or even a Spirit....
Pedro Teixeira da Mota The spirit and God in my eyes reaches no further than the higgs field
If the arm is anesthetized, how can the arm feel the sensation of being touched? It just doesn't seem to be very believable.
lamb ele in terms of phantom limb syndrome only part of the neurone was destroyed, the other part is there so if you pretend to hurt the phantom limb the remaining parts of neurones in nerve systems sends pain to the brain, anesthesia may still allow for the arm pain if it only anesthetized some of the neurones
pain is inside of your brain, not your arm itself
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Sadly, the phantom touch, did not work.
HAHAHAHA this was funny
Mirror neurons could explain why people enjoy watching sports.
andre1980ytube or anything lolol it explains all human cultural experiences
Phantom :)
Dear Doctor would you claim "A knowledge" and contemplate on behavioral origins of "heart bleeding" (brain blood barometric science)
Since your "Mirror-Box" was such "a break through" invention for other countries with different Latitude, Longitude and Elevation...
edited on 21st of May
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I have never had an experience like this with numb areas of my body and I'm not sure that his theory has any scientific evidence.
He's a bit easier to understand when he speaks more loudly. When I saw him on that talk show he was like a mumble rapper.
You have never seen him live.🤥
@@Mindbodyamit Actually, no, lol. I just now heard of this dude. I'm dealing with some super strange symptoms so I'm looking further into these types of videos/people to find more answers.
@Tiémoué Bakayoko I don' think I can man... That was the point of my original comment.
The tell tale brain
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rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
this guy is so funny
great scientist! but the evolution theory everywhere...
Humans thinking they’re so evolved and special lmaooo I can’t stand it.
CULTURE AND CIVILIZATION ARE NOT UNIQUE TO HUMAN BEINGS.
HE SOUNDS LIKE OBAMA.
It was very good until he entered into ideology 😁