That’s one of the reasons I don’t like it. If you love that then you will love it forever because it’s just the same but if you don’t (like me) it’s just bad every time
I feel like you're the only level headed star wars youtuber. I disagree & agree with some of your opinions but somehow, you never come off as a jerk. Always love hearing what you have to say.
Exactly, he doesn't like TROS, but he doesn't go about saying "IF YOU LIKE TROS YOU ARE NOT A FAN!!!!" We need more people like him and Star Wars Explained.
I’ve noticed that whenever someone doesn’t like something it’s “Disney Star Wars” and if they like it it’s just “Star Wars.” Pretty stupid but I see it so much
Personally I believe the Mandalorian is so loved because it expands upon something we have never seen before. Its a simple Mandalorian trying to survive.
@Jordan Myles Evans hey if you don’t like it, that’s up to you, but Hardcore Fans recieved it pretty well and they make up a large portion of the Fanbase
“You like what you like, and you don’t like what you don’t like.” THIS is why I love HelloGreedo...that and the fact that it’s one of the few places I can go where not everyone in the comments hates TLJ
I don’t like the sequels that much but it gets really annoying when I go on a video about Anakin or someone else from Star Wars and the comments are always “he was better than the sequels”
1. It's really good. 2. It appeals to longtime fans who like seeing a different aspect of the world that doesn't involve the rebels and the jedi/sith 3. It plays out like a western in space. Think Firefly set in the Star Wars universe. 4. It has an adorable mascot character with Baby Yoda 5. It's really good.
@@randomgamer625 I think they mean that in some other Star Wars things they refer to modern political opinions too much. I mean I don't think they do it that much but I believe that's what they're thinking of
I really like the Mandalorian, I think a big reason for its success is how much it "feels" like Star Wars. But what does Star Wars "feel" like? Well, George Lucas was heavily influenced by samurai films, westerns, WWII films, Flash Gordon, mythology, etc, sometimes even copying scenes shot for shot. You take the best ideas from all of those movies and add some space-fantasy-western flavor, and you get Star Wars. That's why prequels and sequels dont "feel" like Star Wars, they are, funny enough, too original. They tell stories that no one has ever heard. Mandalorian on the other hand, takes stories that we know and love, and twists them, THEN adds Star Wars flavor, just like George Lucas did. That episode where they help fight off the pirates from attacking the village? That's Seven Samurai. That episode where Mando goes to Tatooine and teams up with another bounty hunter? That's For A Few Dollars More. I mean, they are all heavily inspired by Clint Eastwood films or Kurosawa films. And that's great!
For me, whenever there is a scene on a planet(except exogal) ot didn't feel like a different universe to me. It just felt like it was in our universe, on Earth but a little in the future. Only a little, like 20 years tops since, well the MCU has some crazy tech for their characters.
As someone who loves both The Last Jedi and The Mandalorian: They both understand the spiritual aspect of Star Wars, that The Force isn't a video-game power that you "Level Up" with, they both tap into primal myth and archetypes, and wear their cinematic influences on their sleeves, mainly Kurosawa and Lone Wolf & Cub. But yes, Baby Yoda. I think without Baby Yoda The Mandalorian wouldn't have 75% of the audience it has. I see women my mom's age and older rocking Baby Yoda shirts. It's a beautiful thing. Baby Yoda brought so many people into the fandom than just the usual 40-something socially awkward white male.
It’s kinda sad. He isn’t even that cute. People just call him cute because they hear other people call him cute. The character that made the mandalorian so good was the madalorian himself. Even Kuiil is a much more interesting character than some ugly green baby that doesn’t do anything. If anything, baby yoda is just a mcguffin.
@@horrornation1118 Source? Because if anything, Kathleen Kennedy should be commended for being able to produce a total of five films and three TV series within a span of less than a decade, not to mention countless books and other media.
the only one of those rumors i can see being true is bo-katan. it would make sense to at least have her show up in flashbacks to show how moff gideon got the darksaber.
Granted, these are characters that were expanded and fleshed out by Filoni, who is working on Mandalorian. I think he's got a good grasp on these characters
I think a big part is that it can be paced in relation to the story it wants to tell. Instead of trying to cram multiple story lines into a tight time frame(RoS), it gives the characters time to breathe and the plots to mature.
It's a road trip/Western about a loner having to look after a baby he was supposed to hand over to his evil employers. I know some of you are concerned about Season 2,with the rumored cameos, but I stopped giving a shit about fan theories a long time back. As long as we can have a rip roaring good time with Mando and the gang, I'm good.
You nailed it!!! The no expectations thing is definitely a massive factor. I was actually one of the people who agreed that Filoni just understood Star Wars more than a lot of other people at Disney, and while I still think that's true to an extent, you've made me realise that he was just one person who was previously successful at packaging Star Wars into something I liked (Clone Wars), just like Favreau is doing in a simple but effective way with The Mandalorian (alongside Filoni) . Brilliant video!
Honestly I love the Mandalorian because after R.O.S the universe felt so small and boring, but Mandalorian makes the universe feel big and mysterious similar to the Clone Wars series.
I made my dad watch the show. He liked it enough but he repeatedly said "Without Baby Yoda, this show would have nothing going for it." Which is strange to me since he and I have a lot of discussions about story, plot, and characters. Anyway, I myself loved the show because a) the simplicity, b) the fact that they allow things to remain a mystery, and c) it's visual storytelling at it's finest. We don't have Mando's face to tell us what he is feeling, it has to be portrayed through his voice, his body language, his actions, and the tone the scenes create. And pretty much every other character has this same trait, we don't know much about them, but the way they act gives you a complete idea of what they are like. An even better example of the storytelling aspect is when we go to Tatooine to the same places the original movie was. We see how it has changed after the fall of the Empire. It's no longer bustling with activity, droids run the bar, it's dull and gray. And this adds weight to what the villain says later on that the Empire for all it's faults, had it's benefits. I like the idea of showing the viewpoints of people who weren't directly involved in the main conflict but were still affected by it. Which is probably why I liked Rogue One, the Clone Wars, and even Rebels. For me, Star Wars is at it's best when it keeps things simple. The originals were great because the simplicity of the good vs evil story actually lent itself to a deeper complexity. That's what I see with Mandalorian, a simple story that by it's simplicity lends itself to deeper complexity. A man with no identity is a simple concept, going back to the westerns (the man with no name), but by keeping the simplicity of never showing his face, like I said, we get a deeper understanding because of everything else we are forced to work off of.
A Neo-noir Coruscant detective film. Thats my dream Star Wars movie. Mandalorian is an awesome show though, lot of fun with interesting lore which builds the story and characters.
1. Insanely beautiful visuals, each scene you want as a poster on your wall 2. Mandalorian is an amazing character, he draws you into the story and you can´t even see his face, this is phenomenal 3. The side characters like Queel, I-G11, you love these guys from the first moment they appear and you cry when they are gone 4. Other amazing characters, from Werner Herzog´s Client to Paz Vizla and I can go on and on, the casting and characters are simply superb and unique and so much fun to watch 5. I watched all episodes over and over again and I can´t get enough 6. The Score is brilliant because it has the same theme but changes from ancient (Queel´s Theme) folk to heavy metal (The Mandalorians) to fit the characters. 7. I can go on and on...
I feel like this channel has the most civilized and level headed star wars fans. Not constant Disney bashing and not pretending everyone loved the prequels always.
I love how it’s not really connected to anything and that separation from the main canon is so refreshing. This is also why I’m concerned about how they have so many plans to rope in other characters into season two!
The Mandalorian feels more like the experience of watching Star Wars, at least to me. I grew up on the original trilogy, and to me that means: 1. It feels big and wondrous - and fast - because it doesn't over-explain. Stuff happens and you have to watch along to see what it all means. If it's important, it'll get explained. If it isn't important, it just makes the world feel bigger. 2. It's pretty easy to get a sense of the stakes, and which people are on which side. Star Wars didn't start off with a ton of morally gray anti-heroes; it was a reaction against them. The universe is literally built around a black-and-white moral code of space magic. 3. It knows it's a story of cinematic video and audio. Like Westerns of the 1950s, you could tell who the bad guys were by the color of their hats and the sound of their sinister theme music. Here you can what Chewie is saying by his and Han's body language, or what the Mandalorian is thinking without even seeing his face.
You keep saying it’s simple. Simple yes, but simple done really fucking well. The storytellers knew how to keep you engaged, and it created new loveable characters and places in a way that left us all excited for more.
You're right, but only partially. Because yes, the Mandalorian is filled with very simple concepts, but it doesn't end there. The main characters and the world seem to be shaped to be easy to understand and follow, accessible for pretty much anybody who wants to sit down and experience Mando's journey, no matter your age or background. And as simple and easy to follow as everything is, you can also tell every little bit has depth to it. Characters aren't one-dimensional. The story isn't about good vs evil, right vs wrong, eventhough it features some of those themes. Rather, the story is about the value of life and relationships. We have heroes, but they aren't your typical Star Wars heroes. They're also not just a bunch of Han Solo(s) running around with no force powers. It touches some very grey areas and it plays out like a very neat, well written western in space, and it does so tremendously well. I could go on and on and on, but I think the reason why you might be surprised about it is because perhaps you are already quite familiar with westerns and how most of them play out, so maybe for you it felt more like just another western with a Star Wars touch on top of it, but you have to realize that westerns aren't as popular nowadays. In the 80s and the 90s we could still see some western influenced movies and shows even if they weren't straight up westerns, and western movies were featured on TV on a regular basis. Nowadays that's just not a thing, so to a lot of people this is a whole, brand new concept that they didn't know they needed but now love and want more of. If you think about it, it makes a lot of sense.
I think it's so great and feels so much like SW is because it does stay simple just like A New Hope. It's a feeling that hasn't been captured since that first movie.
Sometimes, I feel a little insecure about my taste in 'Star Wars', but then HelloGreedo pops up another TH-cam video, and it does make me feel a little better. The movies I love include; 'A New Hope', 'The Empire Strikes Back' and 'The Force Awakens'. The movies I like include; 'Return of the Jedi', 'Revenge of the Sith', 'Rogue One' and 'The Last Jedi'. The movies I dislike include; 'The Phantom Menace', 'Attack of the Clones' and 'The Rise of Skywalker'. As for 'The Mandalorian'? It's just awesome! As HG said, it has different characters, settings and it's just plain simple. I enjoy it as a piece of serialized storytelling than just a 'Star Wars' lore.
To quote Patrick Willems on Mandolorian. "It is stuff you seen before doing stuff you seen before. It is star wars comfort food. Dont mess with the important stuff and we'll be fine"
one of the big things I like about The Mandalorian is that it makes the galaxy feel alive, different locations, getting glimpses of different cultures and lifestyles, and the biggest thing: it respected all eras of Star Wars. it doesnt cater to just OT or ignores the prequels, it uses the eras to their advantage.
I wish they went more on a fantasy story with Star Wars and I would like a smaller cast of heroes. Make the villains complexing and tragic. That’s just my opinion
I’m old school I grew up watching shows like Kung Fu in the 70’s. So when I saw that concept being put in a Star Wars setting. I was on board day one. And the show has not disappointed. I didn’t expect the force to be a factor in this series. But adding that element on top of dishing out more on the Mandalorian lore. Makes this some of the best Star Wars content period.
I like how anybody can watch the mandalorian and enjoy it even if they haven't seen a star wars movie in a while or know very little about the franchise.
The one conceptual thing I like about the Mandalorian that I’m very excited for is how this will influence other shows or other networks. This is the rebirth of the friday night american western show that’s wholesome and good for the whole family to watch while not cheeping out on story, characters, or design. As much as I like sitcoms, you can only rewatch parks and rec so many times before it starts to dull. If me and my nephew can both be enthralled by same show while there being a 15 year difference between us, that’s good tv and I want more of tha
I really like the Mandolorian, it is fun and cool in most of the ways I like. At the same time, I wanted something much different going in. I wanted an hour + drama series that was a bit more challenging.
Wdym is that possible? We have a 900 year old alien space wizard living in Shrek's swamp and training the son of cyborg space Jesus to fight space Nazis using magic and glowsticks. Anything is possible in this franchise.
I'd like to see you make a video called "I asked my fans why they say Filoni and Favreau 'gets' Star Wars" to follow up those questions you asked. They were expected to be given an answer, right?
Great vid! I have a friend who isn’t into Star Wars at all and I showed him The Mandalorian and he loved it! He said he rewatched the 2 times after I showed it to him!
I like it, it's definitely good. I think it just benefits from not having any weight on its shoulders. It's definitely less interesting than the Sequels or even bits of the Prequels, but it's just fun.
I could literally listen to hello greedo talk all day long. The reaction to star wars from the fans, the one of insane ownership of characters is exactly the same as what's happening to last of us at the moment 😂.
I have to admit I was kind of iffy about The Mandalorian after watching episodes like The Prisoner and The Sanctuary, but I stayed optimistic and ended up loving the show because it wrapped up season 1 perfectly while still keeping me interested for next season. Overall, I like this show because it is something new and different while still feeling like Star Wars.
Because the writers use nostalgia from the prequels and originals to please the fans. I loved Mandolorian, but I am hoping it can be it’s own thing in season 2
One TH-camr complained that it just felt like someone playing with their Star Wars toys. In the Making Of on Disney+, Faloni and Favreau said they wanted it to feel like someone playing with their toys. It's not the movies, but I sure like it.
Pretty much the only reason that made me love this show from episode 1 to 8, was that it feels not only as it’s own thing, but also as a spiritual sequel to the og Star Wars. Not the original trilogy, but episode lV only.
Like you say it really helps that it’s somewhat disconnected from the rest of the Star Wars Universe. Actually most of the highly separated elements are pretty well liked, such as The Old Republic
Point of clarification, the big surprise reveal was at the end of the FIRST episode, not in the second episode. Also, at least for me, I do think that Filoni and Favreau do have a much greater understanding of what makes Star Wars great (Filoni especially) than most people and are able to properly communicate that to the audience.
I have a friend who didn’t care for it. His main objections were tackiness and being unrealistic. Such as the big gun in the first episode shooting through a big metal door while being blocked by the small pillar they were hiding behind, and the times they were outnumbered and happened to come out unscathed, but the laser-proof IG droid couldn’t just stand at the front of the boat and shoot the troopers at the end. My reaction to him was asking whether he’s ever seen a Star Wars movie
I think you laid it out in a good way. I personally love the mandalorian to the point where it's now one of my favorite shows of all time. It's original, simple, blunt, and fun. But most of all it's well written and executed. From my point of view, the prequels, despite their flaws, had incredible ideas and premise. They expanded the star wars universe in a great way, with new exciting worlds and new creatures, while still showing that it's star wars. The problem was, while George Lucas has an outstanding imagination, he's not that good of a writer or director, which I think he was assisted when making a new hope and writing episodes 5 and 6. For the prequels, he basically went hold my beer mode, with no one advising him or telling him no. The sequels just flat out sucked all together. Not only in writing, but the world building was terrible, and it wasn't very consistent. It felt like there was no plan involved, wasn't very original, and even worse, the characters ranged from halfway sufficing to just being boring. The mandalorian on the other hand, as I said before, is original, well written, expands the star wars universe greatly, and the characters do more than just suffice. They're interesting. But most of all, it's fun.
I agree with the simple and blunt part. In fact, it's so simple and blunt that it's boring, and I literally could not care less about any of the characters. There is 0 character development throughout the whole thing, it just feels like you're watching a playthrough of a StarWars videogame or something, going around doing meaningless fetch quests. Like, as soon as he does these "quests" it's basically forgotten the next episode. Frankly, I don't want to watch a babysitter fly around the galaxy and shooting some baddies.
For me: 1. It's original, as opposed to being reliant on cliche and nostalgia. And the plot points are well structured, yet unpredictable, it subverts in a "good" way. 2. It respects the lore and source materials ("baby Yoda" is questionable with its powers without training though, same issue I have with Rey, but potential explanations for it my come, e.g; A rare species that are born with natural instinctual powers like various other creatues out there, or alike. But if not it would really be the only negative for me and isn't having a cascading negative effect on the franchise as a whole.) 3. Great characters that are well written. And tying into my first point, they are original characters, there are no "REMEMBER THIS GUY" moments to be seen, which adds to the sense of "scale" to the universe, as opposed to everyone being related to someone, or this guy knowing that guy, or people we already know seemingly being everywhere at once, making the galaxy feel tiny and fake (an issue I had with the Solo and Rogue One cameos). 4. Sense of scale. The Yin to the Yang of my last point. It makes the universe feel bigger addtionally because everything in the Mandalorian is small, but everything means something to the individual characters the adventure revolves around. A single TIE feels like its a threat to the main characters and not just fodder to be blown away. It doesn't try to impress through sheer spectacle or "hugeness" (aka, another Death Star, super laser Star Destroyer, it understands bigger doesn't equal better, and it's very grounded). 5. Great acting.
I love the Mandalorian, but you might want to rewrite that "originality" point. Lots of the plot points in the show are heavily (and i mean heavily) inspired by very specific Clint Eastwood films and samurai films. That episode where they help fight off the pirates from attacking the village? That's Seven Samurai. That episode where Mando goes to Tatooine and teams up with another bounty hunter? That's For A Few Dollars More. But its great because that's exactly what George Lucas did. He took the best parts of the best existing stories, but them together with his own little twist, added some Star Wars flavor and there you go!
@@ReySkywalker2 I disagree. One does not need training to be "Force Sensitive", but one does need to learn how to use the Force, otherwise there would be no such thing as Jedi Masters and teachers. The younglings in TCW were trained from infancy, Ezra had to be taught by Kanan, he didn't just "have the Force". Luke was taught to "feel the Force" by Obiwan in ANH, but he still couldn't use any overt powers. Same with Anakin. By ESB, we can presume he self trained based upon what Obi taught him in the next couple of years, but he still strained when he tried to pull his saber out the snow and took forever to do it (when for most trained Jedi it would be effortless and quick). Because of this, Obi's ghost told him to go learn from Yoda and to train more. And we see literally those entire training sessions on Dagobah (with him failing over and over I might add). Even then, he still wasn't quite on par, but improved. So to say he had no training and just "had powers" naturally at a masterful level like Superman is not true at all. Luke and Rey are not comparable at all. ROTJ, more passage of time and solo practicing the things Obi and Yoda both taught him improved him even more. With Anakin, he had to go through all the Jedi training to use the Force overtly. Meditation, repetition, training the will. Over time, one becomes more powerful with the Force just like training in the gym, but the will becomes stronger, and is capable of great feats, though as a result the spirit is drained as using the Force is taxing on the mind (hence even Yoda was exausted after lifting heavy things and so on). Training not just develops concious control, but the mental endurance to use the Force. Now, an untrained Force Sensitive at times will have "bursts" or surges of power come out of them, usually from emotion and so on, but it's not controlled or intentional. The point of Jedi training is to learn to use these abilities "at will" as well as to supress the random surges that may come out of them (hence why Jedi had a deal with the Republic to take in children, as they were a risk to be left in the world with their uncontrollable power unchecked). Some FS people develop quicker than others, natural potential and all that, but it still requires tutealge on how to actually conciously grasp, endure and control this power. That's how it's always been portrayed in both the PT and OT. In the ST, Rey goes from Luke ANH level to Luke ROTJ level in an almost immeditate time frame between ANH and TLJ (literally 5 minutes time skip between those two films) without long term practice or real training. The training she recieved in TLJ was the equlaivant of Luke's in ANH on the Falcon (if that), she was taught to meditate, that's it, and yet had the abilities it took Anakin and Luke both, "years" to acomplish. ] Now, like I said, "surges" of power happen, which are not in the control of the person, so I was actually 100% fine with TFA and her pulling the saber to herself, as she was clearly shocked and didn't mean to do it, and simply had natural hightened instinicts (a common thing for FS people who are untrained), the mindtrick was "dodgy", and then in TLJ where she had the ability of a fully trained Knight was a big no for me, (but I was ok with her abililty in ROS, as it was then established she had been training under Leia in that time).
@@unclearsector4266 True that. By originality, I mean not full on rehashing as opposed to "basing something" on a thematic premise, know what I mean? :) And yeah, I love the Dollars Trilogy myself, only Westerns I really like TBH!
I think an advantage The Mandalorian has (As well as TCW) it that it's a series instead of a movie. There's just more time to flesh out character, ideas, and story moments. I honestly feel that way about most entertainment (It's the reason I think books should only be adapted into tv shows). Being able to fit so much into only 90 minutes is hard, and things need to be cut, things need to flow in a very specific way to make it feel 'like a movie'. Unlike a series which has much more time and it doesn't need to follow the same flow that a movie does, allowing for more development.
Good to see your Stormtrooper face again! Yeah, I love The Mandalorian too, it just has the essence of Star Wars in it for me, and that makes me feel warm and gooey inside :-)
Reason I like it is because it’s free to do its own thing. No previously established characters who’s fate you already know. Just 20+ mins of here is a fresh character and story, building on a universe you love enjoy it or don’t.
01:24 - "Once you get passed the big surprise reveal in the second episode it's a very predictable show. Straight forward; not challenging." The "big surprise reveal" [Baby Yoda presumably] was at the end of first episode. What's going to happen in season 2, Mr claims the show's very predictable but can't get basics facts right and argues against strawmen?
I think you hit it on the head. The Prequels and the Sequels... Solo and the other films all had (or thought they had) plot points to hit... expectations they thought they had to fulfill in order to match with the existing original lore. Their goal was to fill in the missing story that people enjoyed speculating about and thinking about from the original movies. When they told the story and people could not enjoy speculating about the mysterious hinted at backstory or the "what might happen next" personal ideas people had... it took the fun away for many and I think that was the backlash reaction reason. The Mandalorian is different. Yes it has familiar elements of the Star Wars universe but like you said it was new. it had no expectations. The character is new and fresh. I personally liked Rogue One for the same reason. Even though it was filling a gap in the original lore it did not have to "solve" multiple plot points. It had only one to hit... and that was at the end after the main story was told.
Idk about Faverue or however you spell it, but Dave Filoni objectively can be said he understands Star Wars more than anyone at LucasFilm, when you work on three different projects that fans like or love regarding star wars and your ideas are heavily involved and when you hear how he discusses the themes of star wars, its safe to say he gets Star Wars more than most. That being said, I like mandalorian cause it has a hero who struggles, and in star wars that has been rare for a while.
It's what Star Wars felt like 40 years ago. A small smattering of force stuff but everything else was about characters doing what they had to to get by. Great show.
I hope Season 2 becomes much more thematically complex the same way _The Last Jedi_ (2017) was in comparison with _The Force Awakens_ (2015) or _Knights Of The Old Republic II: The Sith Lords_ (2004) was in comparison with _Knights Of The Old Republic_ (2003)
Thanks, HG! 🐣 #StarWars #DisneyPlus #TheMandalorian I think the show is so popular for many of the things you mentioned... simple tale, unique music, compelling characters, skilled execution... but I also think it has to do with the fact that part of the tale is serialized and part is episodic. Many like one or the other of those templates... some appreciate both (as I do). So, in a way, it has something for nearly everyone.
The baby! OK, not just the baby, but also the fact it has a solid story, you see small tidbits of the post Galactic Civil War era, it's entering territory which does feel familiar, but yet isn't at the same time, if that make sense.
I want to see more aliens and less humans in star wars. Not a saturation, but just more. Also, i wished that the main female lead in Rogue one was a twi lek female and the old big bearded guy shoulda been a war-torn wookie with a prostetic arm and an eye patch. It woulda just been it's own thing, ya know? They had such great potential on their hands but in my opinion it all went to waste.
The success of the show, I believe has to do with the backlash of the sequels. The Madalorian was a relief to many and confirmed that Star Wars can still be good and relevant. The same thing can be said about the last season of the clone wars aswell in my opinion
I love the Mandalorian, but like you said in the video, I feel like the show was made to be “simple” and “safe” in order to cater to a large swath of Star Wars fans. (Which isn’t necessarily a bad thing) For example I remember when I went to see TLJ in theaters with my friends. When we came out of the theater I was gushing about how personally I loved it for the themes, characters, and story, while my friends hated it and told me how they really only cared about the fighting and cool battle scenes in Star Wars. I feel like the show manages to safely balance both of those aspects so everyone can enjoy it.
I'm watching The Mandalorian up to Episode 2 right now and I don't get the appeal of The Child grew popular? I'm still holding my thoughts until I finish watching Chapter 8.
I think about the Jon Favreau quote a lot. It’s that quote that really sealed my trust in him going forward. While I agree with you that there’s probably no one who truly understands Star Wars more than anyone else I do think there are some few who understand more than others and at least right now I have faith that Favreau is one of those people.
Just because the sequels have flaws does not make the prequels good. They sucked then, they suck now, they'll still suck far into the future. The sequels being bad does not somehow raise the prequels' quality.
@@Chameleonred5 Sequels arent even bad to begin with...while I have my problems with TROS ...it is still a Star Wars movie miles ahead of most other popcorn movies ...and ahead of the PT for sure as well. And TFA and TLJ are both amazingly good (TFA more than TLJ)
I like the prequels but Sequels Trilogy is Like OT(Which I grew Up) with new Wrinkles sorry the Rules Are More Like Guidelines than Actually Rules Why I hope to see Jedi -Sith battle it out with The Force Than Lightsabers something that hasn't been shown very often
@@voxdraconia4035 Yeah, they're not that bad. Even TROS was actually relatively decent. Flawed, but enjoyable if you put aside preconceptions. ...Which is actually a good description of the sequal trilogy. Flawed, but enjoyable if you put aside preconceptions.
I can't speak for everyone, but I've always wanted a Space Western Star Wars Story whether it be in the form of a video game or a live action series. And I'm liking the bits of Mandalorian lore that we get in Mandalorian. And there's parts that remind me of a game where Mando gets more gear as he progresses. I like that he progresses as the story goes on and I'm interested in learning more about that world. Of what happens to the Mandalorians now. Of the New Republic. I actually care about these characters and what happens to them even if alot of the episodes don't further the main plot. I'm just interested seeing them explore this world. In a way it kinda reminds me of Samurai Jack where you explore the world and it's for the most part quiet and has alot of contained stories that expand the world and gives the main character his own set of challenges to overcome. I really find that interesting and fun.
100% agree. I want a Star Wars Horror Zombie film. Stormtroopers assigned to a small outpost who then discover that there's something not quite right with the locals...
Ayden Jenkins It’s how the simplicity is executed that makes people love it. Do you not like the original trilogy too, one of the most simple stories ever told?
Because they show how the galaxy is slowly restoring in the new republic. The new republic was blown up in the sequel trilogy and thus made the galaxy much smaller
I really like "The Mandalorian." I wish I could be as ecstatic as a lot of people are about it, but I feel like it's still finding its footing which is normal in a show in its first season. There's been some episodes I truly loved and others that I think I could've skipped and not really missed anything. That's kind of the thing with "adventure of the week" shows like that one, though but I feel like even a template like that can allow you to do some unique, fun stuff. Just look at "Firefly" and "Cowboy Bebop." But the show works for me because more than anything, it's really fun. The characters are engaging and the new worlds we get to see are fascinating, and it really opens the doors to other places of the Star Wars universe we've not seen before. Also, it's beautifully made and shot. When I've been underwhelmed by it, it's mostly been because I don't think an episode would present a compelling plot. I think you're on the money about why people like it so much, it doesn't have the baggage of the prequels or sequels. I think that's also why certain films like "Rogue One" (which I love) are better liked in some fan circles. However, the best shows tend piss off their fans at least once and I hope that the series can go in bolder directions in the future. Regardless, I'm stoked for season 2 and I'm really happy that the show exists.
It is made by creators who love Star Wars and want to honor the creator. but mostly they just want to have fun making the stories they believe they should share.
I love The Mandalorian. I'm not sure if season 2 will build more story as it goes or not, but I'm very excited for it. I was really let down with The Last Jedi and The Rise of Skywalker. The Mandalorian, to me, has fun action, likeable characters, a original trilogy feel to how it looks, it has great music that fits the show. I'm just happy that season two is coming out in October. Something to look forward to now that Star Wars films aren't coming anytime soon.
I actually really think Disney+ is the perfect place for what Star Wars has become. It's not that main central saga anymore, because the idea of a central Star Wars just doesn't work given the vastness of the franchise with many different entry points from multiple forms of media. However telling new stories, in new styles with new characters throughout the history of that galaxy allows Star Wars to fullfill it's potential for what it has become. A platform like Disney + does not only present opportunities for those broader ideas, but also actually makes it accessible to all larger audience. It's not as hard to get into the broader range of stories in the franchise when it's all at your fingertips for a charge you may have already payed anyway.
That's a good slogan:
"A bounty hunter and a baby for 22 minutes. Have fun"
That’s one of the reasons I don’t like it. If you love that then you will love it forever because it’s just the same but if you don’t (like me) it’s just bad every time
well the episodes are 30-35 minutes
Lone wolf and cub
*IN SPACE*
If anyone is interested I made a cool top 10 star wars villains ranking.
Sounds like Leon the Proffessional if it was directed by Darren Aronofsky
I feel like you're the only level headed star wars youtuber. I disagree & agree with some of your opinions but somehow, you never come off as a jerk. Always love hearing what you have to say.
Star Wars Theory as well
check out Star Wars Explained
Exactly, he doesn't like TROS, but he doesn't go about saying "IF YOU LIKE TROS YOU ARE NOT A FAN!!!!" We need more people like him and Star Wars Explained.
Definitely
He does occasionally throw shade at Legends fans, but I think he’s not done that in over a year now.
To be fair, Filloni *does* understand a lot about Star Wars.
But more importantly, he and Favreau are just good at their craft.
I’ve noticed that whenever someone doesn’t like something it’s “Disney Star Wars” and if they like it it’s just “Star Wars.” Pretty stupid but I see it so much
Personally I believe the Mandalorian is so loved because it expands upon something we have never seen before. Its a simple Mandalorian trying to survive.
It's just a simple man, trying to make his way on the galaxy.
Dustin Caldwell in the universe*
Dustin Caldwell with his little green baby companion.
And because it doesnt have kiddy shit like rebels and resistance and mando isnt a mary sue like rey
The Mandalorian is proof that safe can be fun, not everything needs to take risks, sometimes simplicity can lead to greatness
Idk Episodes 7-8 were pretty safe in many areas. They still copy/pasted Episodes 4-6. It's all about execution.
@Jordan Myles Evans hey if you don’t like it, that’s up to you, but Hardcore Fans recieved it pretty well and they make up a large portion of the Fanbase
“You like what you like, and you don’t like what you don’t like.” THIS is why I love HelloGreedo...that and the fact that it’s one of the few places I can go where not everyone in the comments hates TLJ
I don’t like the sequels that much but it gets really annoying when I go on a video about Anakin or someone else from Star Wars and the comments are always “he was better than the sequels”
The sequels in general are shit tbh
Why? Are other channels not that peaceful?
I be had to unsubscribe from several star wars and star trek channels because things got way to toxic in there
1. It's really good.
2. It appeals to longtime fans who like seeing a different aspect of the world that doesn't involve the rebels and the jedi/sith
3. It plays out like a western in space. Think Firefly set in the Star Wars universe.
4. It has an adorable mascot character with Baby Yoda
5. It's really good.
6. It doesn't Beat it's politics over your head.
MasterrangerABR what do you mean?
@@randomgamer625 I think they mean that in some other Star Wars things they refer to modern political opinions too much. I mean I don't think they do it that much but I believe that's what they're thinking of
@@randomgamer625 The creators responses to fan criticisms are humble no name calling or calls of Isms/Phobs just people
@@MasterrangerABR yeah the prequels were pretty bad with their politics.
I really like the Mandalorian, I think a big reason for its success is how much it "feels" like Star Wars. But what does Star Wars "feel" like? Well, George Lucas was heavily influenced by samurai films, westerns, WWII films, Flash Gordon, mythology, etc, sometimes even copying scenes shot for shot. You take the best ideas from all of those movies and add some space-fantasy-western flavor, and you get Star Wars. That's why prequels and sequels dont "feel" like Star Wars, they are, funny enough, too original. They tell stories that no one has ever heard. Mandalorian on the other hand, takes stories that we know and love, and twists them, THEN adds Star Wars flavor, just like George Lucas did. That episode where they help fight off the pirates from attacking the village? That's Seven Samurai. That episode where Mando goes to Tatooine and teams up with another bounty hunter? That's For A Few Dollars More. I mean, they are all heavily inspired by Clint Eastwood films or Kurosawa films. And that's great!
PT has the same stuff going on, it just uses different movies
For me, whenever there is a scene on a planet(except exogal) ot didn't feel like a different universe to me. It just felt like it was in our universe, on Earth but a little in the future. Only a little, like 20 years tops since, well the MCU has some crazy tech for their characters.
As someone who loves both The Last Jedi and The Mandalorian: They both understand the spiritual aspect of Star Wars, that The Force isn't a video-game power that you "Level Up" with, they both tap into primal myth and archetypes, and wear their cinematic influences on their sleeves, mainly Kurosawa and Lone Wolf & Cub.
But yes, Baby Yoda. I think without Baby Yoda The Mandalorian wouldn't have 75% of the audience it has. I see women my mom's age and older rocking Baby Yoda shirts. It's a beautiful thing. Baby Yoda brought so many people into the fandom than just the usual 40-something socially awkward white male.
TLJ understands the spiritual aspect of Star Wars?
Dj H kinda hard to see how it doesn’t
It’s kinda sad. He isn’t even that cute. People just call him cute because they hear other people call him cute. The character that made the mandalorian so good was the madalorian himself. Even Kuiil is a much more interesting character than some ugly green baby that doesn’t do anything. If anything, baby yoda is just a mcguffin.
@@lemurboy55 I must be watching a different movie. Or i guess you are smarter than me
@@christianweber7435 well its a personal preference, i think baby yoda is adorable. Don't forget, he saved the Mando twice, so he's not useless
"Disney have ruined Star Wars"
These are the same people who forget about TCW & Mandalorian
It not Disney fault
Its KKs fault, she disregarded George's stories for the sequels.
Star Wars can't be ruined though, so I don't know what people are talking about.
@@horrornation1118
Best thing she ever did, if that is even true.
@@horrornation1118 Source?
Because if anything, Kathleen Kennedy should be commended for being able to produce a total of five films and three TV series within a span of less than a decade, not to mention countless books and other media.
“And no character expectations!”
*Season Two adds Ahsoka Tano and Boba Fett.
Exactly why I'm worried
And quite possibly Bo-Katan, Sabine Warren, maybe Ezra Bridger
the only one of those rumors i can see being true is bo-katan. it would make sense to at least have her show up in flashbacks to show how moff gideon got the darksaber.
Granted, these are characters that were expanded and fleshed out by Filoni, who is working on Mandalorian. I think he's got a good grasp on these characters
@@ClearlyInPeril That's actually a really good point.
I think a big part is that it can be paced in relation to the story it wants to tell. Instead of trying to cram multiple story lines into a tight time frame(RoS), it gives the characters time to breathe and the plots to mature.
It's a road trip/Western about a loner having to look after a baby he was supposed to hand over to his evil employers. I know some of you are concerned about Season 2,with the rumored cameos, but I stopped giving a shit about fan theories a long time back. As long as we can have a rip roaring good time with Mando and the gang, I'm good.
You nailed it!!! The no expectations thing is definitely a massive factor. I was actually one of the people who agreed that Filoni just understood Star Wars more than a lot of other people at Disney, and while I still think that's true to an extent, you've made me realise that he was just one person who was previously successful at packaging Star Wars into something I liked (Clone Wars), just like Favreau is doing in a simple but effective way with The Mandalorian (alongside Filoni) . Brilliant video!
Honestly I love the Mandalorian because after R.O.S the universe felt so small and boring, but Mandalorian makes the universe feel big and mysterious similar to the Clone Wars series.
It makes the universe feel small but it also makes it feel huge
Not to mention it had a PLAN and it also had multiple good writers and directors.
I made my dad watch the show. He liked it enough but he repeatedly said "Without Baby Yoda, this show would have nothing going for it." Which is strange to me since he and I have a lot of discussions about story, plot, and characters.
Anyway, I myself loved the show because a) the simplicity, b) the fact that they allow things to remain a mystery, and c) it's visual storytelling at it's finest. We don't have Mando's face to tell us what he is feeling, it has to be portrayed through his voice, his body language, his actions, and the tone the scenes create. And pretty much every other character has this same trait, we don't know much about them, but the way they act gives you a complete idea of what they are like. An even better example of the storytelling aspect is when we go to Tatooine to the same places the original movie was. We see how it has changed after the fall of the Empire. It's no longer bustling with activity, droids run the bar, it's dull and gray. And this adds weight to what the villain says later on that the Empire for all it's faults, had it's benefits.
I like the idea of showing the viewpoints of people who weren't directly involved in the main conflict but were still affected by it. Which is probably why I liked Rogue One, the Clone Wars, and even Rebels. For me, Star Wars is at it's best when it keeps things simple. The originals were great because the simplicity of the good vs evil story actually lent itself to a deeper complexity. That's what I see with Mandalorian, a simple story that by it's simplicity lends itself to deeper complexity. A man with no identity is a simple concept, going back to the westerns (the man with no name), but by keeping the simplicity of never showing his face, like I said, we get a deeper understanding because of everything else we are forced to work off of.
A Neo-noir Coruscant detective film. Thats my dream Star Wars movie. Mandalorian is an awesome show though, lot of fun with interesting lore which builds the story and characters.
Season 2 proves that even with known characters they can make it a masterpiece of a show!!!!
1. Insanely beautiful visuals, each scene you want as a poster on your wall
2. Mandalorian is an amazing character, he draws you into the story and you can´t even see his face, this is phenomenal
3. The side characters like Queel, I-G11, you love these guys from the first moment they appear and you cry when they are gone
4. Other amazing characters, from Werner Herzog´s Client to Paz Vizla and I can go on and on, the casting and characters are simply superb and unique and so much fun to watch
5. I watched all episodes over and over again and I can´t get enough
6. The Score is brilliant because it has the same theme but changes from ancient (Queel´s Theme) folk to heavy metal (The Mandalorians) to fit the characters.
7. I can go on and on...
I feel like this channel has the most civilized and level headed star wars fans. Not constant Disney bashing and not pretending everyone loved the prequels always.
I love how it’s not really connected to anything and that separation from the main canon is so refreshing. This is also why I’m concerned about how they have so many plans to rope in other characters into season two!
The Mandalorian feels more like the experience of watching Star Wars, at least to me. I grew up on the original trilogy, and to me that means:
1. It feels big and wondrous - and fast - because it doesn't over-explain. Stuff happens and you have to watch along to see what it all means. If it's important, it'll get explained. If it isn't important, it just makes the world feel bigger.
2. It's pretty easy to get a sense of the stakes, and which people are on which side. Star Wars didn't start off with a ton of morally gray anti-heroes; it was a reaction against them. The universe is literally built around a black-and-white moral code of space magic.
3. It knows it's a story of cinematic video and audio. Like Westerns of the 1950s, you could tell who the bad guys were by the color of their hats and the sound of their sinister theme music. Here you can what Chewie is saying by his and Han's body language, or what the Mandalorian is thinking without even seeing his face.
You keep saying it’s simple. Simple yes, but simple done really fucking well. The storytellers knew how to keep you engaged, and it created new loveable characters and places in a way that left us all excited for more.
K.I.S.S: Keep It Stupidly Simple. Complexity has to be emergent.
When I first saw Baby Yoda, I thought it was going to be the new Jar Jar. I thought everyone was going to despise it.
You're right, but only partially. Because yes, the Mandalorian is filled with very simple concepts, but it doesn't end there. The main characters and the world seem to be shaped to be easy to understand and follow, accessible for pretty much anybody who wants to sit down and experience Mando's journey, no matter your age or background. And as simple and easy to follow as everything is, you can also tell every little bit has depth to it. Characters aren't one-dimensional. The story isn't about good vs evil, right vs wrong, eventhough it features some of those themes. Rather, the story is about the value of life and relationships. We have heroes, but they aren't your typical Star Wars heroes. They're also not just a bunch of Han Solo(s) running around with no force powers.
It touches some very grey areas and it plays out like a very neat, well written western in space, and it does so tremendously well.
I could go on and on and on, but I think the reason why you might be surprised about it is because perhaps you are already quite familiar with westerns and how most of them play out, so maybe for you it felt more like just another western with a Star Wars touch on top of it, but you have to realize that westerns aren't as popular nowadays. In the 80s and the 90s we could still see some western influenced movies and shows even if they weren't straight up westerns, and western movies were featured on TV on a regular basis.
Nowadays that's just not a thing, so to a lot of people this is a whole, brand new concept that they didn't know they needed but now love and want more of. If you think about it, it makes a lot of sense.
I think it's so great and feels so much like SW is because it does stay simple just like A New Hope. It's a feeling that hasn't been captured since that first movie.
Sometimes, I feel a little insecure about my taste in 'Star Wars', but then HelloGreedo pops up another TH-cam video, and it does make me feel a little better. The movies I love include; 'A New Hope', 'The Empire Strikes Back' and 'The Force Awakens'. The movies I like include; 'Return of the Jedi', 'Revenge of the Sith', 'Rogue One' and 'The Last Jedi'. The movies I dislike include; 'The Phantom Menace', 'Attack of the Clones' and 'The Rise of Skywalker'.
As for 'The Mandalorian'? It's just awesome! As HG said, it has different characters, settings and it's just plain simple. I enjoy it as a piece of serialized storytelling than just a 'Star Wars' lore.
To quote Patrick Willems on Mandolorian. "It is stuff you seen before doing stuff you seen before. It is star wars comfort food. Dont mess with the important stuff and we'll be fine"
one of the big things I like about The Mandalorian is that it makes the galaxy feel alive, different locations, getting glimpses of different cultures and lifestyles, and the biggest thing: it respected all eras of Star Wars. it doesnt cater to just OT or ignores the prequels, it uses the eras to their advantage.
Just an idea
A movie/ tv series based on the old republic era. They could literally do anything
Personally, I would like to see a Band of Brothers style Star Wars series centered on a squad of stormtroopers in the early days of the Empire.
I wish they went more on a fantasy story with Star Wars and I would like a smaller cast of heroes. Make the villains complexing and tragic. That’s just my opinion
I’m old school I grew up watching shows like Kung Fu in the 70’s. So when I saw that concept being put in a Star Wars setting. I was on board day one. And the show has not disappointed. I didn’t expect the force to be a factor in this series. But adding that element on top of dishing out more on the Mandalorian lore. Makes this some of the best Star Wars content period.
I like how anybody can watch the mandalorian and enjoy it even if they haven't seen a star wars movie in a while or know very little about the franchise.
The one conceptual thing I like about the Mandalorian that I’m very excited for is how this will influence other shows or other networks. This is the rebirth of the friday night american western show that’s wholesome and good for the whole family to watch while not cheeping out on story, characters, or design. As much as I like sitcoms, you can only rewatch parks and rec so many times before it starts to dull. If me and my nephew can both be enthralled by same show while there being a 15 year difference between us, that’s good tv and I want more of tha
I really like the Mandolorian, it is fun and cool in most of the ways I like. At the same time, I wanted something much different going in. I wanted an hour + drama series that was a bit more challenging.
One thing they said was that Yoda’s whole species were force sensitive. Is that possible?
Yes in legends there were species like the sith and rakatans which were force sensitive species
Wdym is that possible? We have a 900 year old alien space wizard living in Shrek's swamp and training the son of cyborg space Jesus to fight space Nazis using magic and glowsticks. Anything is possible in this franchise.
They did their homework and love what they do that's how it is loved by everyone
I'd like to see you make a video called "I asked my fans why they say Filoni and Favreau 'gets' Star Wars" to follow up those questions you asked. They were expected to be given an answer, right?
Great vid! I have a friend who isn’t into Star Wars at all and I showed him The Mandalorian and he loved it! He said he rewatched the 2 times after I showed it to him!
I like it, it's definitely good. I think it just benefits from not having any weight on its shoulders. It's definitely less interesting than the Sequels or even bits of the Prequels, but it's just fun.
I could literally listen to hello greedo talk all day long. The reaction to star wars from the fans, the one of insane ownership of characters is exactly the same as what's happening to last of us at the moment 😂.
Yep
its unfortunate
Yup yup. Breaks my little heart :(
Thats not a very good comparison because the last of us 2 is hot garbage. Then again, so is the sequel trilogy.
I have to admit I was kind of iffy about The Mandalorian after watching episodes like The Prisoner and The Sanctuary, but I stayed optimistic and ended up loving the show because it wrapped up season 1 perfectly while still keeping me interested for next season. Overall, I like this show because it is something new and different while still feeling like Star Wars.
It's the right decision to not make him Boba
Because the writers use nostalgia from the prequels and originals to please the fans. I loved Mandolorian, but I am hoping it can be it’s own thing in season 2
Other than the stormtroopers and the pit droids there are like no in your face references.
One TH-camr complained that it just felt like someone playing with their Star Wars toys. In the Making Of on Disney+, Faloni and Favreau said they wanted it to feel like someone playing with their toys. It's not the movies, but I sure like it.
Pretty much the only reason that made me love this show from episode 1 to 8, was that it feels not only as it’s own thing, but also as a spiritual sequel to the og Star Wars. Not the original trilogy, but episode lV only.
This. It tried to ignore the complicated lore expanded on by 5 and 6 aside from the force.
This is a really good, well thought through video. I should’ve thought of this! Great work.
Thank you for being level headed as always.
Like you say it really helps that it’s somewhat disconnected from the rest of the Star Wars Universe.
Actually most of the highly separated elements are pretty well liked, such as The Old Republic
Point of clarification, the big surprise reveal was at the end of the FIRST episode, not in the second episode. Also, at least for me, I do think that Filoni and Favreau do have a much greater understanding of what makes Star Wars great (Filoni especially) than most people and are able to properly communicate that to the audience.
I have a friend who didn’t care for it. His main objections were tackiness and being unrealistic. Such as the big gun in the first episode shooting through a big metal door while being blocked by the small pillar they were hiding behind, and the times they were outnumbered and happened to come out unscathed, but the laser-proof IG droid couldn’t just stand at the front of the boat and shoot the troopers at the end.
My reaction to him was asking whether he’s ever seen a Star Wars movie
Did you not see the damage the big gun did to the pillar? It was halved in mass.
I think you laid it out in a good way. I personally love the mandalorian to the point where it's now one of my favorite shows of all time. It's original, simple, blunt, and fun. But most of all it's well written and executed.
From my point of view, the prequels, despite their flaws, had incredible ideas and premise. They expanded the star wars universe in a great way, with new exciting worlds and new creatures, while still showing that it's star wars. The problem was, while George Lucas has an outstanding imagination, he's not that good of a writer or director, which I think he was assisted when making a new hope and writing episodes 5 and 6. For the prequels, he basically went hold my beer mode, with no one advising him or telling him no.
The sequels just flat out sucked all together. Not only in writing, but the world building was terrible, and it wasn't very consistent. It felt like there was no plan involved, wasn't very original, and even worse, the characters ranged from halfway sufficing to just being boring.
The mandalorian on the other hand, as I said before, is original, well written, expands the star wars universe greatly, and the characters do more than just suffice. They're interesting.
But most of all, it's fun.
I agree with the simple and blunt part. In fact, it's so simple and blunt that it's boring, and I literally could not care less about any of the characters. There is 0 character development throughout the whole thing, it just feels like you're watching a playthrough of a StarWars videogame or something, going around doing meaningless fetch quests. Like, as soon as he does these "quests" it's basically forgotten the next episode.
Frankly, I don't want to watch a babysitter fly around the galaxy and shooting some baddies.
For me:
1. It's original, as opposed to being reliant on cliche and nostalgia. And the plot points are well structured, yet unpredictable, it subverts in a "good" way.
2. It respects the lore and source materials ("baby Yoda" is questionable with its powers without training though, same issue I have with Rey, but potential explanations for it my come, e.g; A rare species that are born with natural instinctual powers like various other creatues out there, or alike. But if not it would really be the only negative for me and isn't having a cascading negative effect on the franchise as a whole.)
3. Great characters that are well written. And tying into my first point, they are original characters, there are no "REMEMBER THIS GUY" moments to be seen, which adds to the sense of "scale" to the universe, as opposed to everyone being related to someone, or this guy knowing that guy, or people we already know seemingly being everywhere at once, making the galaxy feel tiny and fake (an issue I had with the Solo and Rogue One cameos).
4. Sense of scale. The Yin to the Yang of my last point. It makes the universe feel bigger addtionally because everything in the Mandalorian is small, but everything means something to the individual characters the adventure revolves around. A single TIE feels like its a threat to the main characters and not just fodder to be blown away. It doesn't try to impress through sheer spectacle or "hugeness" (aka, another Death Star, super laser Star Destroyer, it understands bigger doesn't equal better, and it's very grounded).
5. Great acting.
The Force has never needed training to use. Baby Yoda, Rey, Luke, Anakin, kids in TCW and Rebels, etc show this.
Ewan Callister Rey is stronger than Baby Yoda in raw force strength.
I love the Mandalorian, but you might want to rewrite that "originality" point. Lots of the plot points in the show are heavily (and i mean heavily) inspired by very specific Clint Eastwood films and samurai films. That episode where they help fight off the pirates from attacking the village? That's Seven Samurai. That episode where Mando goes to Tatooine and teams up with another bounty hunter? That's For A Few Dollars More. But its great because that's exactly what George Lucas did. He took the best parts of the best existing stories, but them together with his own little twist, added some Star Wars flavor and there you go!
@@ReySkywalker2 I disagree. One does not need training to be "Force Sensitive", but one does need to learn how to use the Force, otherwise there would be no such thing as Jedi Masters and teachers. The younglings in TCW were trained from infancy, Ezra had to be taught by Kanan, he didn't just "have the Force".
Luke was taught to "feel the Force" by Obiwan in ANH, but he still couldn't use any overt powers. Same with Anakin. By ESB, we can presume he self trained based upon what Obi taught him in the next couple of years, but he still strained when he tried to pull his saber out the snow and took forever to do it (when for most trained Jedi it would be effortless and quick). Because of this, Obi's ghost told him to go learn from Yoda and to train more. And we see literally those entire training sessions on Dagobah (with him failing over and over I might add). Even then, he still wasn't quite on par, but improved. So to say he had no training and just "had powers" naturally at a masterful level like Superman is not true at all. Luke and Rey are not comparable at all.
ROTJ, more passage of time and solo practicing the things Obi and Yoda both taught him improved him even more.
With Anakin, he had to go through all the Jedi training to use the Force overtly. Meditation, repetition, training the will. Over time, one becomes more powerful with the Force just like training in the gym, but the will becomes stronger, and is capable of great feats, though as a result the spirit is drained as using the Force is taxing on the mind (hence even Yoda was exausted after lifting heavy things and so on). Training not just develops concious control, but the mental endurance to use the Force.
Now, an untrained Force Sensitive at times will have "bursts" or surges of power come out of them, usually from emotion and so on, but it's not controlled or intentional. The point of Jedi training is to learn to use these abilities "at will" as well as to supress the random surges that may come out of them (hence why Jedi had a deal with the Republic to take in children, as they were a risk to be left in the world with their uncontrollable power unchecked).
Some FS people develop quicker than others, natural potential and all that, but it still requires tutealge on how to actually conciously grasp, endure and control this power. That's how it's always been portrayed in both the PT and OT. In the ST, Rey goes from Luke ANH level to Luke ROTJ level in an almost immeditate time frame between ANH and TLJ (literally 5 minutes time skip between those two films) without long term practice or real training. The training she recieved in TLJ was the equlaivant of Luke's in ANH on the Falcon (if that), she was taught to meditate, that's it, and yet had the abilities it took Anakin and Luke both, "years" to acomplish.
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Now, like I said, "surges" of power happen, which are not in the control of the person, so I was actually 100% fine with TFA and her pulling the saber to herself, as she was clearly shocked and didn't mean to do it, and simply had natural hightened instinicts (a common thing for FS people who are untrained), the mindtrick was "dodgy", and then in TLJ where she had the ability of a fully trained Knight was a big no for me, (but I was ok with her abililty in ROS, as it was then established she had been training under Leia in that time).
@@unclearsector4266 True that. By originality, I mean not full on rehashing as opposed to "basing something" on a thematic premise, know what I mean? :) And yeah, I love the Dollars Trilogy myself, only Westerns I really like TBH!
I think an advantage The Mandalorian has (As well as TCW) it that it's a series instead of a movie. There's just more time to flesh out character, ideas, and story moments. I honestly feel that way about most entertainment (It's the reason I think books should only be adapted into tv shows). Being able to fit so much into only 90 minutes is hard, and things need to be cut, things need to flow in a very specific way to make it feel 'like a movie'. Unlike a series which has much more time and it doesn't need to follow the same flow that a movie does, allowing for more development.
Simple show, simple situations, complex stories, this is the way...
Good to see your Stormtrooper face again! Yeah, I love The Mandalorian too, it just has the essence of Star Wars in it for me, and that makes me feel warm and gooey inside :-)
Reason I like it is because it’s free to do its own thing. No previously established characters who’s fate you already know. Just 20+ mins of here is a fresh character and story, building on a universe you love enjoy it or don’t.
1:26 the reveal was actually at the end of the first episode
01:24 - "Once you get passed the big surprise reveal in the second episode it's a very predictable show. Straight forward; not challenging."
The "big surprise reveal" [Baby Yoda presumably] was at the end of first episode.
What's going to happen in season 2, Mr claims the show's very predictable but can't get basics facts right and argues against strawmen?
2:42 This. Seeing things like this, is understandable for a 12-year old, not half of the internet...
I think you hit it on the head. The Prequels and the Sequels... Solo and the other films all had (or thought they had) plot points to hit... expectations they thought they had to fulfill in order to match with the existing original lore. Their goal was to fill in the missing story that people enjoyed speculating about and thinking about from the original movies. When they told the story and people could not enjoy speculating about the mysterious hinted at backstory or the "what might happen next" personal ideas people had... it took the fun away for many and I think that was the backlash reaction reason. The Mandalorian is different. Yes it has familiar elements of the Star Wars universe but like you said it was new. it had no expectations. The character is new and fresh. I personally liked Rogue One for the same reason. Even though it was filling a gap in the original lore it did not have to "solve" multiple plot points. It had only one to hit... and that was at the end after the main story was told.
Idk about Faverue or however you spell it, but Dave Filoni objectively can be said he understands Star Wars more than anyone at LucasFilm, when you work on three different projects that fans like or love regarding star wars and your ideas are heavily involved and when you hear how he discusses the themes of star wars, its safe to say he gets Star Wars more than most. That being said, I like mandalorian cause it has a hero who struggles, and in star wars that has been rare for a while.
It's what Star Wars felt like 40 years ago. A small smattering of force stuff but everything else was about characters doing what they had to to get by. Great show.
I hope Season 2 becomes much more thematically complex the same way _The Last Jedi_ (2017) was in comparison with _The Force Awakens_ (2015) or _Knights Of The Old Republic II: The Sith Lords_ (2004) was in comparison with _Knights Of The Old Republic_ (2003)
Thanks, HG! 🐣 #StarWars #DisneyPlus #TheMandalorian I think the show is so popular for many of the things you mentioned... simple tale, unique music, compelling characters, skilled execution... but I also think it has to do with the fact that part of the tale is serialized and part is episodic. Many like one or the other of those templates... some appreciate both (as I do). So, in a way, it has something for nearly everyone.
The baby!
OK, not just the baby, but also the fact it has a solid story, you see small tidbits of the post Galactic Civil War era, it's entering territory which does feel familiar, but yet isn't at the same time, if that make sense.
It’s different and it’s completely new instead of having to fight expectations like the movies
I enjoyed The Mandalorian, but I wouldn't say it was incredible. It took me a while to get into it - I think you're right about it just being simple
4:25 is what every fan needs to hear.
I want to see more aliens and less humans in star wars.
Not a saturation, but just more.
Also, i wished that the main female lead in Rogue one was a twi lek female and the old big bearded guy shoulda been a war-torn wookie with a prostetic arm and an eye patch. It woulda just been it's own thing, ya know?
They had such great potential on their hands but in my opinion it all went to waste.
Right on Brother
The success of the show, I believe has to do with the backlash of the sequels. The Madalorian was a relief to many and confirmed that Star Wars can still be good and relevant. The same thing can be said about the last season of the clone wars aswell in my opinion
"calcified" was a brilliant word choice.
I love the Mandalorian, but like you said in the video, I feel like the show was made to be “simple” and “safe” in order to cater to a large swath of Star Wars fans. (Which isn’t necessarily a bad thing) For example I remember when I went to see TLJ in theaters with my friends. When we came out of the theater I was gushing about how personally I loved it for the themes, characters, and story, while my friends hated it and told me how they really only cared about the fighting and cool battle scenes in Star Wars. I feel like the show manages to safely balance both of those aspects so everyone can enjoy it.
I'm watching The Mandalorian up to Episode 2 right now and I don't get the appeal of The Child grew popular? I'm still holding my thoughts until I finish watching Chapter 8.
Just wait. The Mandalorian will do a ballsy move and people will be like “it ruined the Star Wars franchise”.
Pretty much.
yep im already preparing for The Discourse Post-Season 2
And then it will forcibly retcon into vapid fanbro-appeasing fanservice with zero depth and piss off everyone who enjoyed the ballsy stuff.
It's just a badass show that panders to no one and simply focuses on the story of the Mandolorian it's beautiful.
You should make a ranking of Mandalorian, Clone Wars, Rebels, and Resistance
I think about the Jon Favreau quote a lot. It’s that quote that really sealed my trust in him going forward. While I agree with you that there’s probably no one who truly understands Star Wars more than anyone else I do think there are some few who understand more than others and at least right now I have faith that Favreau is one of those people.
“bUt yOu hAvE tO aBiDe tO tHe pRe eStAbLiShEd rUlEs oF tHe sTaR wArS uNiVeRse!!!!!!!” Prequels good Disney bad!!!!!!
Just because the sequels have flaws does not make the prequels good. They sucked then, they suck now, they'll still suck far into the future. The sequels being bad does not somehow raise the prequels' quality.
@@Chameleonred5 Sequels arent even bad to begin with...while I have my problems with TROS ...it is still a Star Wars movie miles ahead of most other popcorn movies ...and ahead of the PT for sure as well. And TFA and TLJ are both amazingly good (TFA more than TLJ)
I like the prequels but Sequels Trilogy is Like OT(Which I grew Up) with new Wrinkles sorry the Rules Are More Like Guidelines than Actually Rules Why I hope to see Jedi -Sith battle it out with The Force Than Lightsabers something that hasn't been shown very often
@@voxdraconia4035 Yeah, they're not that bad. Even TROS was actually relatively decent. Flawed, but enjoyable if you put aside preconceptions.
...Which is actually a good description of the sequal trilogy. Flawed, but enjoyable if you put aside preconceptions.
This is the video every Star Wars fan needs to see. You can have different opinions to the writers but still love it.
I can't speak for everyone, but I've always wanted a Space Western Star Wars Story whether it be in the form of a video game or a live action series. And I'm liking the bits of Mandalorian lore that we get in Mandalorian. And there's parts that remind me of a game where Mando gets more gear as he progresses. I like that he progresses as the story goes on and I'm interested in learning more about that world. Of what happens to the Mandalorians now. Of the New Republic. I actually care about these characters and what happens to them even if alot of the episodes don't further the main plot. I'm just interested seeing them explore this world. In a way it kinda reminds me of Samurai Jack where you explore the world and it's for the most part quiet and has alot of contained stories that expand the world and gives the main character his own set of challenges to overcome. I really find that interesting and fun.
100% agree. I want a Star Wars Horror Zombie film. Stormtroopers assigned to a small outpost who then discover that there's something not quite right with the locals...
Gonna be honest here: I don't actually like this show. I don't hate it, but I just don't enjoy simple action-adventure shows and movies.
Same.
Although I don't agree I find it very refreshing to see someone say this
I agree. It's too simple and lacks any complex story telling and complex characters.
Oh that’s fine.
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It’s how the simplicity is executed that makes people love it. Do you not like the original trilogy too, one of the most simple stories ever told?
Because they show how the galaxy is slowly restoring in the new republic. The new republic was blown up in the sequel trilogy and thus made the galaxy much smaller
I love the Wolf and Cub dynamic
Iron Man was a simple story too but a lot of people say it's still the best MCU movie.
Because it's new yet familiar and has a simple but good story
I really like "The Mandalorian." I wish I could be as ecstatic as a lot of people are about it, but I feel like it's still finding its footing which is normal in a show in its first season. There's been some episodes I truly loved and others that I think I could've skipped and not really missed anything. That's kind of the thing with "adventure of the week" shows like that one, though but I feel like even a template like that can allow you to do some unique, fun stuff. Just look at "Firefly" and "Cowboy Bebop."
But the show works for me because more than anything, it's really fun. The characters are engaging and the new worlds we get to see are fascinating, and it really opens the doors to other places of the Star Wars universe we've not seen before. Also, it's beautifully made and shot. When I've been underwhelmed by it, it's mostly been because I don't think an episode would present a compelling plot. I think you're on the money about why people like it so much, it doesn't have the baggage of the prequels or sequels. I think that's also why certain films like "Rogue One" (which I love) are better liked in some fan circles.
However, the best shows tend piss off their fans at least once and I hope that the series can go in bolder directions in the future. Regardless, I'm stoked for season 2 and I'm really happy that the show exists.
Greedo continues to bring the refreshing, well thought out, and common sense takes on Star Wars ✨
We need more space westerns
It is made by creators who love Star Wars and want to honor the creator. but mostly they just want to have fun making the stories they believe they should share.
It just has this....quality thats undeniable and palpable on screen almost constantly
I love The Mandalorian. I'm not sure if season 2 will build more story as it goes or not, but I'm very excited for it. I was really let down with The Last Jedi and The Rise of Skywalker. The Mandalorian, to me, has fun action, likeable characters, a original trilogy feel to how it looks, it has great music that fits the show. I'm just happy that season two is coming out in October. Something to look forward to now that Star Wars films aren't coming anytime soon.
What I thought when I first heard of it was; "A fistful of dollars, in space, in the star wars universe? Shut up, and take my money!"
A good star wars movie is one that respects what came before it and adds something to the universe.
I actually really think Disney+ is the perfect place for what Star Wars has become. It's not that main central saga anymore, because the idea of a central Star Wars just doesn't work given the vastness of the franchise with many different entry points from multiple forms of media. However telling new stories, in new styles with new characters throughout the history of that galaxy allows Star Wars to fullfill it's potential for what it has become. A platform like Disney + does not only present opportunities for those broader ideas, but also actually makes it accessible to all larger audience. It's not as hard to get into the broader range of stories in the franchise when it's all at your fingertips for a charge you may have already payed anyway.