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- In the battle for gender equality Iceland is leading the world. The tiny island is pioneering news ways to close the gender pay gap, root out stereotypes and get more mothers back to work. Film supported by Mishcon de Reya
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Today women around the globe have less access to power wealth and education than men - but one tiny island is leading the world in bridging these gaps. Iceland is pioneering ways to get more mothers back to work, to root out gender stereotypes, and to close the pay gap.
Could Iceland inspire the world to solve one of its greatest problems?
Iceland has topped gender equality rankings for nearly a decade. One of the secrets to their success? Start early. This kindergarten in the capital Reykjavik focuses on challenging extreme gender stereotypes before they take root in boys and girls. It's a mission that's led to the creation of 17 schools across this tiny country - all focused on developing a healthy balance of characteristics in both sexes. Girls and boys are separated to allow girls to nurture traits traditionally viewed as masculine, like being bold, independent, and taking risks. And boys are given time to learn traits traditionally viewed as feminine, like being more group oriented, empathetic, and caring - and the signs are that this is working. Research suggests that in later years children from this school have a greater understanding of gender equality when compared to children from other schools.
Iceland is also promoting gender equality by encouraging fathers to share the childcare burden with mothers. In 2000, it introduced what is known as a daddy quota - three month statutory paternity leave. It's an allowance that goes much further than most other countries in the world. Here over 70% of fathers take up the full three months leave. Why? Because the state covers 80% of a salary during this period up to a cap of $4,600 a month. One beneficiary of this generous system is Egill Bjarnson who is looking after his son Valer. Egill believes the high cost of the daddy quota to taxpayers is justified because it helps get more women into work.
But even in Iceland men are still paid nearly 6% more than women for similar work. This year Iceland became the first country in the world to pass legislation not just to expose but to tackle the gender pay gap. Companies with over 25 employees like Reykjavik Energy now have to prove they are paying men and women equally for similar jobs. Every job at the company must be measured against a set of criteria - this produces a score. For jobs with the same score workers must be paid the same. When Reykjavik Energy used this pay calculator the inequalities came into sharp and immediate focus.
The company rectified this by raising the wages of its female employees. Critics of the law point out there will be significant financial consequences for companies as they rectify their pay inequalities - but many argue this is a necessary price to pay. Gender equality will be an ever more pressing challenge for wealthy countries across the world. Could the ambitious measures being tested in Iceland provide practical solutions?
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Dear angry men in the comments. Wouldn't you want PAID leave to spend time with your amazing babies? Wouldn't you want your partner in life to be able to make more money and contribute more to the house hold? Where is the downside?
Best comment I've seen, how can a man who truly supports and loves his wife complain about her being paid more. Shouldn't they be proud and glad for her?
@Anil Ravi „paid more“ as in more than she is paid now, not necessarily more than him.
Because they are children themselves, immature asf🤣🤣🤣
These are guys that don't deserve to have their own kids.
@@AnnnnnnnnnnnLeona even if it means she makes more than her male partner? It means more $ for the family? Everyone wins. Zero downside. So confused by the anger in the comments...
@@athenstar10 shut up.
People insulting iceland as mediocre when iceland is one of the most peaceful and richest countries in the world.... They are doing something right, thank you, go fix your own countries if you dont like it
Nobody ever called iceland mediocre...
@@mychannel-rt2gn the comments beg to differ. Just alot of intolerance
@@mychannel-rt2gn meh
it is rather denial of one sided blind claim that Iceland is perfect.
@@MollarCZ it is rather denial to pretend that I said Iceland is perfect
that dad is correct. nearly every job interview ive had since i was 22 asked me if i intended to have a child in next 5 years. The 'norms' we're blind to -.-
@@AdityaDeo-cg6eu typically in the western world babies do not goto work with us. Typically 'day care' of some type is used.
Most mums return to work once the child attends 'fulltime' school hours, typically aged 5yrs old.
The only interferance would be the same as any other household member i.e. accidents and illhealth. I can only speak from my experience n culture
@You don't have to know my name something you want to say ?
I mean it is kinda relevant to the whole thing cause it means they're considering whether you're valuable enough to continue employing, covering, paying, etc. should you become a mother.
@@latenightthinker4737 i think paternal leave changes things. Why is a child 100% a female's responsibility? are men not equal to the task? Often men make the better parent and we've had way too many children, myself included suffer from the lack of an effective father-figure in their lives, be it through separation or work being deemed a higher priority by society. Children are the future. their mental and character development needs what men bring to the table. Keeping men away from their children is detrimental for everyone.
This subtle form of sexism is damaging to everyone.
@@kimwarburton8490 Men are of course equal to the task but I think it's obvious that there's something about pregnancy that makes this whole parental thing a different ball game at least during that. So it's clear to me why it's currently more of serious question towards women rather than men. but I agree, they should also ask men if they plan on being a father in the near future because society and the government look like they might finally acknowledge the importance and rights of fathers.
I genuinely don't understand why this topic riles people up so much, particularly young men. Honestly, it makes me sad.
Idk, perhaps they worry about running out of job vacancies?
Because the pay gap is a myth and women enjoy a ton of advatages like *much* lower incarceration rate, lower suicide rate, better life expectancy, no draft, better support overall from society, yet somehow men still have the privilege? It's women that are privileged, extremely so
@@chrslb ok misogynist
I don't believe in the 'employee score'. The quality of an employee is subjective.
@@matth7142I hope I'm not a mysoginist. All the facts I cited are true though. All genders should be equal but women just happen to have all the benefits at the moment
Gee, those Icelandic babies are pretty chubby! Very healthy looking children. It's a great idea to allow dads to spend more time with their kids from infancy. I would think that it will help them bond even more with their children.
Love !! I won't ever marry someone who doesn't want to contribute or take responsibility for our kids.
And that includes being involved from day 1
@Royal Satan Lol what? As a man I'd expect to have an equal share in raising my child with its mother. If you think the mother should do most or all of the work, you probably shouldn't have kids.
@Royal Satan Ahaha, a woman expect the father of her child to contribute to their upbringing, and call her entitled? How entitled is it to expect a woman to raise your child by herself?
Though I realize your name is Royal Satan, so probably just a troll, have fun waisting time.
they are so cute * - *
So glad she emphasized on "it's not that there are a couple of evil men.."
well in some countries there are 🙈
@@brinawidmer ok
There are also evil women
The men out here truly saying that we should'nt be equal because "who will look after the child as it grows". Um? why it can't be the father?
Because of hypergamy
@James
Humanity hasn't even existed for a million years. Only ~200000 years. And in the past before farming was invented children were raised communally, which means for ~190000 years both men and women took part in the raising of children. I don't know what happenned after farming. It might be a more modern trend for only women to raise children.
@Jameshmm are you rich? Your job must really pay if you feel you are in that kind of financial position. In this kind of financial environment it's difficult for most families to afford the woman staying home even when she actually wants to. I find the debate men have on this topic really interesting. I have heard men call housewives leeches and criticise women who work the very next day. Perhaps the male gender should have a meeting and pick a struggle? On that note I will say that if a woman CHOOSES to stay home that society (and this includes a healthy amt of the male population) need to not shame her for it. Similarly a woman whom works should not be shamed for it. What should be criticised of both genders is lack of work-life balance.
@James ... So the wife doesn't have a say in this? What if it isn't about income, but about feeling accomplished?
@James well, if men spent time raising babies since infancy, they'd know as much about them. It's not some biological trait, it's about experience.
extraordinary how ideas like teaching kids to be both caring and assertive and giving men good paid paternity leave have somehow hurt so many people's feelings in these comments
Only ones hurt are the retardad feminists. The "pay gap" is a total farce. You work less, you get paid less, period.
@@mrpythagoras7079 yet it's intriguing that you were the only one who felt it necessary to reply...
@@bellabroughton1214 Indeed. I think it's about time I get a job..
Personally I think even the shown example of nuclear plant was a bit telling. The "unskilled" workers outside were shown doing hard manual labour, with heavy objects, versus the unskilled labourers insides were tinkering with smaller items. Perhaps there jobs really are more similar, but from this video it was easy to see why the former would be paid more for increased physical risk and endurance. I think implementing paternity leave would help "level the playing field", since the forced implementation of maternity leave has certainly made companies view female candidates as more of a financial risk. However, forcing up costs on companies across the board is going to be met with things like cutting wages and hiring less workers. It will be interesting to see what the results of these school programs are. It is a well known fact that the biggest contributing factor in the gender wage gap is the different career choices made by men and women. Where women traditionally go for more empathetic people oriented jobs like nursing, teaching, etc, and men tend to work more with things (and more with dangerous things), like construction, computers, etc. I'm interested to see the results of their experiments and whether or not it has a statistically significant affect on career choices. There have already been several studies conducted on monkeys that show they make these same "gendered stereotyped choices" in play and exploration when left to their own devices. These same results are also seen in >1 year old human babies. Surely no one would argue that these subjects have been "socialized" by gender norms presented in society.
bella broughton pointing something out means your feelings are hurt 🤣🤣🤣
People (mainly men) are soooo triggered! It's actually funny to read/skim through this comment section, just embrace equality!
show me one example you know where for the same job (same hours, same productivity, same position, same qualifications) a women gets less than a man? ( first world countrys only please), plus no one takes in consideration the biological approach between man and women (physical and physiological)
@@bogdanstasyuk1758 bbc presenters. Until a couple of years ago the information about their salaries wasn't published. The first time when it was published it caused an explosion. Anchors of the same program earned salaries differing by factor x2
@@bogdanstasyuk1758 dude u can literally google it urself and come yp with so many examples
@@JohnDoe-ig4zh grandpa, learn to use the computer yourself. Don't be lazy old child
@@JohnDoe-ig4zh how is it in ignorant land? Clearly you're the one who says it doesn't exist so the burden of proof is on you. It is well known that there is wage gap and you would know this unless you choose to be ignorant. Please show peer reviewed studies that show there is NO wage gap. Burden of proof is on you.
the way children being taught is rather interesting, the fact that fathers are encouraged to spend more time with their children during their infancy would help the child to learn an ideal equity and a balanced attention that a child must get from their parents
As an Indian, am so proud of Iceland. It takes great minds to take such steps..
This is true gender equality.
But dont get brainwashed by the American media. America has fallen.
@@titanking5956 nobody is talking about America. Don’t be so obsessed with them
@@titanking5956 no we haven't, it's the house that's trying to turn our country into a christofascist dictatorship, don't judge us 300 million americans based on 100,000 of those pesky conservative tards.
not just for wealthy countries but for all countries: womens rights are humanrights - gender equality is important in the entire world.
Tell that to some african countries which doesn't even have a proper toilet.
@@TheGamingAlong still, women in those countries deserve to be treated as equals by men.
@@brinawidmer nope
@@brinawidmer So by treated as equal you mean men being taugh to be femenine, women to be masculine and denying any difference between the sexes
@@roto9991 wow idiot, let's clap for you, hey give this Ro To a OSCAR
I want to raise my children in this country. This is amazing.
then keep your culture in where you hail from. Especially if you are from a society where 92% of the population are drama queens with pugged noses.
@@eduardochavacano who are you? Who asked?
Most of the Nordic countries have similar laws regarding parental leave. I think Sweden recently, as in during the last two years, increased the amount of time alloted to the fathers.
And some people were very unhappy with this idea but apparently parents can't share equally the nearly two year parental leave otherwise.
Long us you can handle the cold lol
or better, push for it in your own country
Iceland has an app to check if the dating partner is not too close relative.
Alabama needs to get it too. They seem to be having trouble.
@@world-traveler880 SWEET HOME ALABAMA
many people love dating relatives.. many royal families not allowed to marry non relatives
Must be why they have so many Down syndrome babies...
And the middle- East
I feel like the Iceland model is very pragmatic. The score system takes into account many variables that determine wages. If a women gets a lower score, she's paid less. Male gets a lower score, he's paid less. If they have equal scores, they are paid the same. This is very quantitative and logical. What objections are there to this except the fact that some people just don't wanna pay women more?
I think they can sue them I'm not sure I don't really know much about laws in my country (yeah we are a country) since I'm only 12
I agree with you. However, I would like to know how they come up with the scores that value each job and if they can guarantee that the scores are not affected by someones bias.
My objection is that this distorts the market. If some jobs are more valuable to the market but have lower scores in their system, then people will not want to do these jobs. The market would usually correct itself from the scarcity by increasing wages for those jobs, while this system is inherently inflexible so will not correct itself
@@davidcooks2379 I think they said that companies with more than 25 employees obliged to do this kind of evaluation. And if two workers have the same score within the company then the company has to pay the same for both workers. With same score someone else could earn more at another company. That was my understanding.
@@csillaomacht9421 ok, so this will be advantageous for small companies, but potentially disadvantageous for composites with 26+ employees
What I love about the Scandinavian system is that they recognise that man have and are constrained by their gender as well and they work to counteract those constraints. In the US I feel like the view is that gender is something that women exclusively experience. Women in our society, while lacking hard power, hold an incredible amount of soft power and framing gender as something that only belongs to one group of people creates division and sets egalitarian progress backwards, especially when the group with soft power is seeking hard power as well.
Awesome point
What an interesting point! I've never heard of that one and I quite agree. A male friend of mine doesn't want to marry because laws favour women so strongly in marriage.
Yes, get those females out in those fields, forests, farms, and construction sites and farms where even the female owners that require big strong males to do what their big, strong females can't, won't hire females to fill those positions.
And I know all those 5'4" 150 pounders with 30% bodyfat will be LINING UP to work as bouncers and doormen.
And infantry units. We know from experience that will yield stellar results.
@@lockandloadlikehell Women do work in construction and agriculture though. And in the near future tech will do a lot of the hard work so how will you then defend unequal pay? Obviously certain roles are generally more equipped to men or women but this is increasingly narrowed.
I'm packing my bags yall
If I were from a country like that I would want children.
Strangely, scandinavian countries have lowest birth rate in the world
The world needs to learn from Iceland about Gender Equality and its policies
and yet the more equality in a country less families and less children exist....
@@moisesfrias1117
Why?
smh so many commenters who don't understand even remotely what they're arguing about. YES, "equal pay for equal work" includes the actual work conditions, like working outdoors/doing hard labor/working under difficult weather conditions. we're talking about women working the exact SAME jobs as men, doing the same work, but still being paid less.
The reason employers pay men more than women for the same work is this... this is an actual study btw.... There's a company where every employee does exactly the same job, same hours, same pay, etc. The boss gathered up all the employees and gave them two choices, leave work early or stay and work overtime. All the women choose to leave early, and all the men choose to stay overtime. Surprise, surprise. And that is your answer.
@@q-_-p.d-_-b Not surprising, considering (at least in US, but I'm suspecting that in many other developed countries also) paying less for the same job based on gender is straight-up illegal.
@@q-_-p.d-_-b The reason why the women chose to leave early is because working women have to work both at the workplace and at home. On the other hand, most men when they return home, don't have to work anymore, they're tired after working for so long, that they spend rest of the night by doing stuff, like for example watching TV. The men chose to work overtime is because they didn’t have to do chores at home when they'd return, but for women, the case is different . If the roles were swapped, I'm sure the men would choose to leave early too.
Er no, that is proven to be wrong
@@sarkarshreekanya5515 your statement is not correct, it's just based off generalisations. At my workplace most of the men live at their own place many without a partner. And they still do overtime.
What a great movement! I hope this movement and education are being adopted in other countries as well. Because women and men are equal, both are human!
M K highly doubt that
Yes, I think this is the future and men like the one above me either will have to adapt or get left behind.
Yes we Are humans but men and women are different physicologically and physically, we Are simply different, that is a fact
@@WeatherMondacicci Oh really?
Since I Know most men refuse to date feminists,and feminists are starting to fret about It, also do you really believe that men and women are equal in a physical and physicological way?
@@AliciaGonzalez-pk3mwnice that a woman is against this bs
I love Iceland so much because of lots of things: Vikings (Especially their Discovery of America before Columbus), Gender Equality, peace, renewables and no Tipping culture.
vikings did not discover America - there were millions of people living there for a while... If you mean vikings were the first europeans to arrive at America, then yes, you are correct.
@@ang5035 I meant to say that Vikings were the first Europeans to discover America before Columbus did
Vikings werent all about gender equality
Where do I sign up for immigration?
People should be paid the same as long as they do the same job and deliver the same output, (regardless of their gender). *Some* people in the comments section are arguing while not even talking about the same thing...😅
Is this an acceptable comment that won't get too much hate?🤔
Well capitalism doesn’t work like that, you gotta sell your skills and things you can do(even if you cannot)
And in overall become a better negotiator.
I guess hate is a necessity to spread since we lack love
Err in fact every first world country pays the same to women for the same hours
@@Marcos-hf4cz That's probably mostly true for jobs with set or low wages. When it comes to higher paid jobs, negotiation usually decides how much you're paid so there can be disparity even between two people with the seemingly same skills, background, etc.
@@juno2768 Eeeer no, its not legal to pay someone less money based on gender
Amazing.
Hope this happens in my country as well.
I hope u are not a feminist
@@na-zt4hj I am a feminist. But that doesn't mean I am a man hater. True feminists work for the upliftment of suffering and exploited women.
@@goldenwings9902 yeah at the expense of men
feminist are hypocrites
The comment section just shows how “equal” the entire world is 🙄
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Shouldn't you compare women working outside to men working outside?
But that would produce accurate results and you know how liberals feel about those
@@liamleak1272 I assume you mean leftist, not liberals..?
@@liamleak1272 lmfao that made me laugh. Yo whats the difference between a knife and a liberal?
What difference would that make? It would show that women made the more logical choice to get a more comfortable job inside. You see, a programmer or an engineer earns more than a builder for many reasons. It's embarassing for us men, why the fuck are we going for shitty, low paying jobs outside doing labour?
@@metolse475 ??? Outside jobs tend to be more paying becuase of the dangers and chance of death. Those jobs mainly being construction and factory. Yes they may be shitty but dafuq do you mean by low paying?
To all the blabbering misogynists in the comments section... check out at 4:05 Happy now?! Men are getting more for the similar jobs
“Similar” is not “same”.
That seems be one of the issues here.
This model looks very promising, other countries should also try to implement it!
The pay gap is NOT between men and women, it is between mothers and non mothers. Taking several months out to have a baby means the mothers career doesn't advance as a non mothers career would. Iceland and I think Kenya have a greater equality because they have a better paternity leave system, meaning both parents can share the responsibility and both their careers suffer less.
Rwanda, not Kenya
Uliskia wapi ati Kenya?
Translation: Who told you about Kenya?
Outdoor workers get paid more because who wants to work outdoors!!
exactly. i would gladly take a less strenouous indoor job for the same pay.
I do!
You know that's from Jordan Peterson without guessing.
@@declanharp9633 rightly said.
The pay of any job depends on the skill level involved, how needed the skill is, how rare it is, and how many people will benefit from it. Whether it's indoors or outdoors is irrelevant.
Who is paid more, a surgeon or a bricklayer?
omg the taking risks part made me smile 1:55
that is DEFINITELY something i REALLY struggle with
One of the factors that makes it easier is that Iceland is a relatively small country and their culture isnt necessarily tied to the religious and cultural beliefs many SEA countries have
small and full of white european people you forgot to mention
I’m curious if keeping them separate is actually helping. You would think keeping them all in the same class teaching them the same exact things would be more beneficial. Very interesting.
Its about teaching skills that go against what have already been ingrained unconsciously by their parents at birth. Or "unlearning". If all children are raised in a household that is 100% equal then sure, teach them the same.
I believe it does. I studied in a girls school for 12 years. Girls from girls schools tend to be more assertive, independent, empowered, and aggressive. When I went to a coed college, I had to “tone-down” my “strong personality”. Apparently being a girl meant that I’m suppose let the men dominate the conversations during group discussions. Sometimes I felt I had to suppress a part of myself to fit in with other girls who were more docile. I’m doing well professionally and I thank my girls school upbringing. One benefit is that most girls from girls schools tend to succeed professionally since we’re more assertive and decisive than other women. Around 60% from my graduating class work in managerial positions.
@@catherinet6024 I wholeheartedly believe in your experience. I too have studied in an all girl's school. While I think co-ed has its time and benefits, but especially in the earlier year it's important to give the girls a chance to discover their own identity without comparing and competing for boys. I was shocked when I learned that in supposedly advanced countries like the US, girls are expected NOT to excel in math and science as these fields are seen as more masculine (mind you I grew up in Saudi which is terrible for women on so many levels). Learning in an all girls school, science subjects were simply considered (harder) in general for all students regardless of gender.
@@catherinet6024 Obviously it's different from everyone, but I've always been in a co-ed environment and I have friends who initially went to an all-girls college and I would say that I am probably more or similarly confident and assertive. In fact, in discussions I've had with said friends they actually said they feel more insecure and uncertain around men because they don't have the experience. Maybe it's a cultural/generational/education system difference? Was your all girls school private? Because that is another factor: students from public education tend to have less confidence and assertiveness than privately educated students, on average.
Keira Rogan Keira Rogan I went to a Catholic girls school in Manila. Even public school girls here are assertive and that might be a cultural thing since women are highly valued in Philippine society. Growing up in a country that ranks high on gender equality and gender parity was amazing (The Philippines ranks 8th in the world and is the only Asian country in the top 10). In fact, I never felt being a woman was a disadvantage until I studied college abroad in the US. American men seem to have a hard time taking me seriously in business, a 5’1” skinny Asian woman. The sexism and heightism I’ve experienced in the American workplace left me frustrated so I went back to Manila where I was able to quickly rise up the corporate ladder.
Yes the workers who work outside make more money than the workers who work inside. Why is that a problem? That isn't discrimination its fair pay. Working outside is harder, you have to deal with weather. If the women want to work outside they are free to do so as well.
You clearly don't have a job in tech
@@misosoppa3279 you clearly don't understand what he's talking about you ideat
Exactly. You get equal pay for equal work. Working inside and working outside are different types of jobs with different pay.
Carl Rei Saito that was an interesting comment. What made you say that?
There is that and also woman work less. Like in my company we have young non-married woman working and you can clearly see they work less. Not because they are sick or something, but because they have to constantly go on holidays like bali, egypt, spain... There is a lot of factors in wage gap, but the media sees just one thing and that is money!
all the people here are going about talking that unequal wages makes sense since men are working outside in harsh conditions , and women inside in warm environment , but that's just an example of a work that has been shown in the video there are numerous other jobs , where there are the same environmental conditions but a difference in wages .
and ONE IMPORTANT THING TO ADD HARSH CONDITIONS DOESNT DETERMINE THE PAY , AS YOU SEE , IN DEFENCE SERVICES , MEN OF LOWER RANKS , WHO ARE PUT FRONT DURING WAR , THEY HAVE LESS PAY , WHERE AS THE OFFICERS WHO PLAN FROM A SAFER PLACE AND GIVE ORDERS ARE PAID MORE BECAUSE OF THEIR RANK , HARSH CONDITIONS AND RISKS OF DYING ARE MORE FOR THE LOWER RANK MEN BUT STILL THE WAGE SYSYTEM IS NOT QUESTIONED , ITS NOT THE CONDITIONS BUT THE EXECUTION THAT MAKES THE DIFFERNCE.@james von maxwell
go Iceland! we need more place like that..
Im so glad little girls are being encourgaed that they are enough and that they are so capable. Queens ✨💅
time stamp?
4:50 you are saying that employees who work outside in cold Icelandic temperatures doing hard labour and making plant more profitable should be paid the same as staff inside in warm doing medium hard labour almost injury free (compared to outside work)?
@Azar Huseynli well, the question is, would you then switch from working in construction to working as a cleaner. They are trying to distort the market so that women feel more rewarded for what they do, but as a side effect, more men could switch to traditional female jobs. If this works, then stereotypes will be broken. If it doesn't work, then at least women are rewarded properly. If a guy doesn't want to do cleaning while working inside and being paid the same as if he was doing hard work outside, then he will be punished for his pride, and that's fair
I love this! ❤️
The best place to be a woman is having white skin.
It's a nordic country
Not every country is as diverse as the us
Magic place for magic life ! I'm sure.
Touching video !
Thank You dear The Economist !
anyone who genuinely believes there is a significant paygap needs to educate themselves on why this 'gap' exists. it exists almost solely due to men (on average) taking higher paying jobs, working more hours, less flexible hours.
To the arguments that say that outdoor workers should get paid more; the video states that the decision was made based on a point system. So, for example, considering the weather conditions the outdoor workers would get a point and considering say unconventional working hours (the cleaners would have to wait till everyone has left to finish cleaning) the indoor workers would get a point. So, at the end of the day they would both have a point each (therefore equal pay), but for different attributes of their work.
Outdoor labour might be more physically intense, but, referring back to my hypothetical, at the end of the day they would go home in time for dinner and help their kids with their homework afterward. While that will not be the case for the indoor workers who get home after their kids are in bed. So, there's always an opportunity cost and it's a trade off.
This is just my perspective and two cents. I'm not here to argue, just contribute to the discussion. Thanks for making it to the end of this comment!
Cheers!
way to go Iceland! don't give up, keep it going...show this world that equality is not that far & difficult.
That's great for Iceland, and I wish them the best of luck. But Iceland is a very rich and secular country with one of the smallest gender pay gaps on earth. Contrasted with other poorer far more religious countries which have far worse gender inequality. I don't think the solutions here will work for other countries which are in more desperate need of reform.
But the BBC says Iceland is a Utopia.
@@smmm5559 the gender pay gap is not a myth, i had to write a paper on it for HR an I can assure you any serious academic recognises it as a fact because there is volumes of data proving it's existence. It's a global phenomenon with some countries like South Korea having the largest of any OECD country and countries like Iceland having the narrowest gap.
here's a real economist u ideat
th-cam.com/video/7fCBsugN_g0/w-d-xo.html
Really good comment but saying this things in a TH-cam comment is like giving pearls to pigs.
i loved this!!!
If they were going to actively fight gender stereotypes, they wouldn't be paying their (mostly female) indoor workers more to bring their wages up to the level of their (mostly male) outdoor workers. They'd be transferring half the women in the building to go work outdoors and half the outdoor guys to do the comfy indoor work
The US doesn't have parental leave for everyone.
Glad to watch that finally there are people out there who've been taking initiative to reduce or vanish this age-old gender inequality, and the best part is that they've been doing this at a grassroot level by teaching students👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
So, how is Iceland dealing with inequality in family court, suicide stats, homlessness stats...
+ 90% of workers that die during work are men
So long as the whaaamenz are okay then all is good right? Gynocentricm prevails...
I live in Austria, a few years back I wanted to extent my wifes (and mother of my children) visa. The women at the immigration office wasn´t very happy that I didn’t meet all the requirements (only money counts in my country. You even can buy austrian citisenship). In the end, she told me that she doesn’t support my application because I need to meet all the requirements, it’s not that I am a young woman. I understood it this way; if I would be a young lady, she would understand that I can’t meet the requirements. But I am a men and thats why I have to meet all requirements.
In my country, men have to respect womens right but in the same time face such things not only from women but also from men and the law. (Austrian law gives a lot of freedom to immigration officers, that’s why you have cases where Government workers fiances get permanent citizenship after one year and not only after 6 years like ordinary people).
The same way as with gender inequality.
I'd actually like to know more about that as well. It's an aspect of gender equality that many countries neglect.
Now I kinda want to move here when I get older....
In Iceland there is no preference for women, not really, there is a better place to be a human being, where a grudge does not arise between people because of their gender or any other 'major' difference.
So I just got informed by email that my comment here in this video was removed by TH-cam. I don't even remember what it was.
Thanks!
they sound so well spoken and articulate. Kudos
Great work by Iceland ! 🙂
Why is comment section so toxic everyone is insulting every other person. How can a positive video have such a bad response.
Because misogynists hate the idea of women being seen as people.
@@indrinita i don't even see any of them in this comment section
@@awts..7954 guess you're blind then
@@indrinita bruh i am lol
@@indrinita Oh so now masculine traits are People traits?
We Are complaining that men are being enmasculated,its not about women but about men, men are biologically different from women that's a fact, so basically they are denying their masculinity
Best Iceland ad I've ever seen
I want to move there now!!
Awesome content. Congratulations and thanks for sharing (with script!!! for non English speakers)
Your doing great, Iceland
Wow! Raising a generation of soy boys and celebrating it too
The reason why the workers outside and inside were paid different is because the outside workers are doing more physical and exhausting work while the inside workers are doing less physically demanding jobs. Its not about “unconscious bias” its about the work you are willing to do and how long you are willing to do it.
Every country should take this approach.
The best place to be a woman!? I'm pretty sure it's not on Earth.
That is it. I am moving to iceland. Now who's with me?
the real problem is that men think women either dont have any financial responsibilities in life or have fathers and husbands who support them. But women are no longer supported by husbands and women have to pay the same amount as men to have a car, to have somewhere to live but are paid less. A woman's dental care costs the same as a man's. A landlord or a dentist does not give a woman a discount because she is a woman. In addition, women have to spend more money than men .. not only on makeup and hairdressers but also for precautionary safety measures like taking a taxi home late at night. I am not so sure that the erasure of masculine and feminine is good. A neutral world seems unexciting and bland to me. But companies need to realize that women are working to pay their bills and have the same very real financial obligations as men do.
In Canada, THERE IS a paternity leave, at least in the province of Québec, and in addition, a parental leave which can be shared or not depanding of the parents' decision. No salary from the employer, but a wage from the government.
They’re going to be shocked when they travel to other countries when they’re older i am raising my kids there
Iceland I'm coming...
loved akk the great ideas from all the asspects hope this will spread to all country
Why is there so many dislikes on this video? Is it not true that Iceland is the best place for a woman?
I would love to live in island!
I agree on anything in this video except for this one 05:20 , if it comes to unskilled jobs, we must get paid according to the power we use to work, not because we give more value traditionally male dominated jobs,
we can't pay the same price for cleaning service jobs and piping and fitting jobs, that's unfair, the risk and the power used in both jobs are different.
Packing my bags and gonna head up to Iceland
Do the indoor jobs and outdoor jobs have the same demands both in difficulty and applicants? If you compare unskilled jobs in comfortable safe environments to those in uncomfortable unsafe environments they should have different amounts of people applying.
Cute babies
Great idea
Beautiful country
I wonder if they have any modelling agencies in Iceland...
of course they do, and I can bet you 100 dollars that female models gets paid several times more than male models.
obsidianstatue actually I would assume that since there are less male models then they would be in higher demand than female models and they would be paid more
@@rainbowflowerpower4464 nope, there is a lower demand for male models THUS fewer male models in the industry, lower demand also means lower pay, this is simple economics, something modern feminists don't believe in.
@@obsidianstatue MJ Fan is probably right. The lower demand for male models probably does not offset the far lower supply, thus increasing the relative wage they earn in comparison to female models. After all, women cannot model male clothes or appear in advertisements for products meant mainly for male demographics.
Royal Satan Europe produces the most models out of all countries, if a model gets into a European modelling industry then she pretty much set
I believe that if they are both working in the same environment, either inside or outside, and are doing the same jobs exactly, then there should be equal pay regardless of gender.
The best place to be a woman is silicon valley. Since few of us want to be engineers, there's a 2:1 ratio of men to women here. All my girlfriends are dating guys that are twice as attractive and twice as educated as themselves. You can have you pick here!
What is that mean: unskilled workers? Is in it that for any kind of task to be completed you need some level of specific skills?
Here's the definition: Unskilled labor is used to refer to a segment of the workforce associated with a limited skill set or minimal economic value for the work performed. Unskilled labor is generally characterized by a lower educational attainment, such as a high school diploma, GED or lack thereof, and typically results in smaller wages.
Basically, it's labor that doesn't require a specific education or work experience, and therefore usually has lower wages.
Some level that can be obtained from just looking at how others do this job for a day. Fruit pickers, cleaners, anything mechanical really.
Yeah take out abrahamitic religions and maybe we have a starting point!
Shut up Von RAT
People talk about hate comments and people trolling like something new,
It was always there, social media wasn’t popular enough for people to notice.
As a woman I found that what is blocking me from the higher education is help with a learning disability that happens more in males there for there is less help available for my kind of learning disability ( reading disability) because it affects more males
All I see in the comments is woman attacking men and misogynists. I actually don't see any angry men or misogynistic comments though.
Dig down to the bottom 🤣
Why Iceland such an amazing place
Why companies don't employ just women if they are at least 6% cheaper than men then?
Amazing. Absolutely amazing
I love the school master shes so cool
I want to live in iceland now
Fantastic!!!! that there is a nation willing to pursue a holistic, positive and kind thinking! May we all follow this example to create a peaceful and united world! all the people in this video are super cute, wow i think i will want to relocate to Iceland :):)
I would love to see how this pans out in the future
I love Iceland. One of the happiest places on earth . I don't know what kinda research is conducted on these kids . Why isn't paternity leave given to fathers in other countries..it is just ridiculous .
But , workers outside regardless of gender , needs more money in compensation for their risk?. That's understandable...
just a thought: if i were a business owner and the country where i live in would have a huge pay gap then wouldn't i just hire women if their less expensive?
Why are you being rational? How fuckin dare you
Exactly. Thats one point thats true, and women cant reply. Men can get more work done in tougher conditions, so they hire more men. Your point is very true, so nice.
*In a fast food joint where I worked it was almost entirely female. We were cheap for that particular industry, geographic location, and role. I was one of the higher paid ladies, but that still didn't change much*
@@jessicacole8404 that proves nothing...all that tells us is that women are more likely to go for lower paying jobs...something we already knew.
I know this is messed up but would you enter a plane made by a 100 percent female staff?? Your campany for women would go bankrupt
Amazing!
I think it isn't only about wages but also treatment. Equal ain't always fair
Please, I love The Economist, especially for its clarity, but when they discuss comparing unskilled men's job that are mainly outside, with unskilled women's job that are mainly inside, they do not make the comparison clear. Is the location (inside v outside) a factor in the pay discrepancy or not?
The question is, "Should it be a factor?"
Great stuff! Iceland is truly a nice land.
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Great channel
But I actually did not understand why they also do not teach boys to take risks in Iceland? What's the point here? Equality means teaching them the same thing
This is incredible 👏
But I actually did not understand why they also do not teach boys to take risks in Iceland? What's the point here? Equality means teaching them the same thing