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Some of these takes are quite wrong. We aren't in a society haves and have-nots. Wealth inequality is a myth as it ignores that the poor in western developed countries will have more than the poor of the past or even in modern poor countries. The standard of living has been raised for everyone. But the ultra rich no doubt have so much more money than you can dream of. Also any criticism of capitalism is misguided as it usually diagnoses it's use of greed and excess as unique when it is present in other nations. Especially when we don't live in a free market society anymore when the government picks and chooses what companies to regulate. You even pay taxes on private property. Also weird that you claimed politicians shooting guns irl is akin to promoting violence. That's a non sequitur.
"any criticism of capitalism is misguided"@@jorgeloredo100 I hope he makes some kind of unhinged video rebuttal that would be awesome. His view is also sooo important that it can't be a regular comment, he's gotta put it right here under my pinned links.
"... the closer we get to robots patrolling the streets... the whole concept of Robocop becomes less cool." My dude I never knew a video essay could be a TRAGEDY
The remake is a terrible movie, but I think one of the reasons why it failed to badly, is because it showed things that already existed when the movie came out.
I know right? And we did not even get flying cars. All we got is electric cars that can catch fire and burn for days while spewing toxic fumes in the air that are even worse than carbon. I feel as though we got ripped off big time.
The story of RoboCop 3 is actually pretty interesting (arguably better than 2), yes even including the robotic ninjas (the sleekness of a Japanese car vs the blocky American version is a neat idea to explore in the world of RoboCop). It’s the execution of the film that fails it. And Robo needs Lewis, IMO. She’s his link to his old self that helps keep him human. I hate what they did with her in this movie.
@@mikeadams7904 “Do you want your body armor?” “No, I’m off duty.” Girl, you’re going somewhere with Murphy. Bring your body armor. It just made her seem really dumb.
Maybe Rogue City will jump start a sequel where she's brought back as a cyborg, but with much more of her human identity and old body intact. It'll be interesting to explore any dichotomy between her and her almost-fully robotic partner
I saw a meme of RoboCop that was both disturbing and funny af. It had a picture of RoboCop with the caption "Dude died, but they made him go to work anyway."
And with what's going on with the Israel/Gaza dispute, Robocop 3 plot is very relevant to today's world. But its execution and it tone down violence is what let the film down.
@@Kyddosuperstar I just recently rewatched the RoboCop trilogy and I must say that there is not much less violence and blood in it than in the second part. And in modern PG-13 films, there is often no blood at all. In the scene where RoboCop's partner is shot, there is enough blood. Lewis's chest was full of holes and her clothes were soaked in blood.
I truly don't think is as bad as most people think. For me the premise alone and whole idea of RoboCop siding with the citizens against his programming is incredibly strong. It really takes his character in a new direction.
Wow. This was a great video. I'm impressed with the analysis of 3. This is a brilliant way to reintroduce such a terrible movie, I'm glad you drew the parallels to real life instead of just giving your take on what sucks and why. Thank you for the insight. It really is a terrifying world they portrayed - and it's even more horrific that it's real.
Real art imitates real life, and vice versa. The best stories are anthropological. They are the story of mankind, and everyone can relate to that no matter what time you are born into. It is our (awful) history, and our legacy, and it's a part of our DNA. It is all we know. Real life is rated X, not PG. When you make everything deluded, and made for children, because you're trying to brainwash the masses, the art will ALWAYS suffer first. The writing is on the wall (again), and we are doomed to repeat our own (awful) history, up until the last human being is dead. That's the grand scheme of our reality.
We are living in a Cyberpunk world, but without the cool technology. Last time I saw Robocop 3 was with my dad back when the movie was released on theaters. Guess it’s time to give it another watch. Great analysis.
action figure for robocop make sense to OCP he isn't human he a product like ED. its like marketing police cars for hotwheels. You lego police man so on. Your not marketing alex murphy as far as OCP is concerned he died. They are marketing a produce that exclusive to OCP.
Also, you ever notice OCP's sleek design went to the grave with Bob Morton and Dick Jones? Robocop is pretty slick given he's a cyborg and ED-209 is just pure menace, but all the Robocop 2s are pure garbage design wise. No wonder OTOMO is impressive, it looks awesome as a concept. I think the real reason OCP went into bankruptcy throughout the series is because all of their creative designers got killed in the first movie.
The Robocop action figures actually made much sense. Robocop, ended up been a very popular character with kids in those days. So how do you turn the hero of violent films with heavy drug related crime into something that could be consumed by kids? Action figures. The girl holding an action figure of Robocop works like a toy commercial. Hey kids, buy one too.
Could also go in line with the bit in Robocop 2 when the executives brainstorm ideas to make Robo more child-friendly by reprogramming him to be a caricature of himself. Maybe as part of that effort to sanitize Robocop's image, it includes selling action figures of him.
Excellent take on this, especially 30 years on from when RoboCop 3 released. The dark cyberpunk future was a lot cooler when it was just science fiction, and not something thatwe are constantly living in day-to-day like we have been since the 2020s began. There is a reason in each dark cyberpunk movie, especially Blade Runner, that the protagonists are all exhausted, over worked, drink to cope, and are weary of their existence as a cog of an unstoppable corporate/state-owned machine. Cyberpunk isn't about saving the world, it is about surviving in that world, and that is something that RoboCop puts on full display.
As a kid back in the 90s, this was my introduction to robocop. I thought it was COOL... fast forwarding time I preferred the 1st film for its theme. Im playing rogue city and tbh.... THAT shoulda been Robocop 3.
To me, I prefer Robocop 3 as a much well made sequel of the original because the first movie established precedents for what it would come to pass like the evictions, kicking the people and the vulnerable poor class from their home to the streets (yeah the second film foreshadows that in the conversation of the mayor and the Old Man) and having Murphy trying to form some new connections to replace the family he had lost in Nikko, Marie and the resistance. I mean, it did all the things Robocop II didn't or couldn't make.
Yeah, it's the whole thing about wanting to appeal to kids that undermines it. But I quite like it. And it has Basil Poledouris again killing it again with the music Score.
@@dansmith1661RoboCops politics is anti corporate big business, & its ongoing privatization into government. Biden is a good example of anti an union shill, a real life dystopian Democrat
Anything can be politicized though. Whether it's the clothes you wear, the car you buy, the job you have, the things children are taught in schools, the media you consume etc. If RoboCop existed in real life of course there would be action figures of him. It's a part of human nature to look for hero's and rolemodels to look up to. And in a more cynical way, to politically and commercially exploit for the people in power. Pretty much all pop music is a bunch of producers artificially creating the next superstar, kind of like a RoboCop.
Always amazes me how little there is in the Robocop Universe. 3 original movie's, 1 remake, a few unspectacular series and some graphic novels Yet just a single image of Robocop is absolutely iconic. They could have made dozens of movies and done well if they just stuck to the formula.
The original film is so iconic, it’s almost like all the bad sequels in the world can’t lessen it in any way, unlike many other franchises which get diluted by bad follow-ups. Despite the MANY bad things that came after, RoboCop remains my favorite film.
I heard recently about someone who approached three uniformed police officers outside of a bank to make a formal complaint about vandalism. They explained that they were actually off-duty but were posing as on-duty police officers because they were being paid privately by the bank. They went on to say, regardless of what action they would be expected to take while on-duty, they would simply do whatever the bank told them to do as the bank was the one paying them. I can understand police officers working as private security in their own time, but I didn't know they were allowed to wear their uniforms while doing it. Either way - gave me real OCP vibes.
It goes by state. In California, for example, there is case law that prohibits police officers from wearing uniforms or exercising police powers while acting in the capacity of security (or any other job). I remember going to Dallas and seeing uniformed Dallas PD officers working security. The most surprising thing was that they also had marked Dallas PD units for these gigs. There's a lot that California gets wrong, but this isn't one of those.
@@albertov1837in Texas these cases happen because departments don’t have the funds to pay the overtime so for many large events the department will provide officers who volunteer and the event organizer covers the cost. The officers aren’t acting as anything more than officers assigned to that site. That said, livened police also meet the qualifications of private security, but have far less authority working in that role. For large events it makes sense for police to be nearby. Banks sometimes pay for it, but it’s still not going to mean doing anything more than what a cop would do if they happened to be parked out front during normal duty and something happened.
I'm not too 'well read' and don't always have the best way to describe things, but you've hit the nail on the head on how I feel about Robocop 3. It has some great ideas, but executed poorly. Ironically, it was the studio politics that made it what it is now. They wanted (as Nostalgia Critic said about 'Batman Forever') "safe and marketable". It was to be brought in line closer to the Robocop series than the other two movies and I remember another video speculating that it was meant to be a tie-in to the series, but they scrapped it and made a sequel. I doubt that myself, but it does fit the idea.
FINALLY,Someone managed to notice the deeper message behind the Robocop's action figure and understand the darker disturbing themes behind this otherwise deceptively goofy P-13 film. While i still see the doll as a "Sign of hope" motto for the civ since Post Robocop 2,Murphy is pretty much consider as a "super hero/cop" of Detroit, poor guy is STILL OCP's property and people unknowing idolizing a corporate product which is gut wrenching. Can you imagine how disturbing and eye opening it would be had this movie actually taken itself seriously ??? It's funny how i felt the same with the Reboot aswell where people simply hated it blind and didn't bother to see the bigger picture I found it to be a Decent film/remake but i managed to brushed them aside and started to dissect and actually started to like the setting and theme where Cops can be just as much cruel if Corpos gotten in their brains and poor ol actual good cops like Murphy always takes the worst punishment and fated to become the product of the said corporation and so forth. It really puts and bring me another question...wonder how many Bad films that actually has good and interesting ideas.
I didn't think robocop 3 was a bad movie , but it was a great movie like avg at best of coursse it is hard to live up to 1 & 2. I can't wait to play robocop game since it came out on steam pc.
Robocop stands as a beacon of hope. He is a creation and slave of corporate and state masters, yet he remains and incorruptible protector of the people. So incorruptible that he can violate his very reason for existing to protect the innocent from his masters. He is the ideal that we wish our own police to be. He is free from the avarice, vice, and prejudices that come from being fully human, yet he retains enough humanity to want to help mankind. Sadly, he is only fiction.
Thanks for talking about the (very few) interesting things about Robocop 3 instead of just shitting on it. It's worth shitting on, but it's much more interesting actively trying to find something worth talking about in regards to it
It failed to live up to the original because...IT WAS A REMAKE!!!!! That is the long and short of it. The original was unique, it was new, fresh, never been done. It was super violent, and yet funny and had a cool central character. It came out in the 80s at the height of the video era and gained a massive following on VHS, so in effect it struck the audience twice and burned itself into public conscience, because of its ideas of what happens to a man that is turned into a cyborg and the violent crime that is the cause of it. The remake was missing all of that, it was watered down, no violence no shock value. And it had been done before in the original and done better. The remake was no surprise like the original was, and had no shock value. The original made such an impact that people who were not even born when it was released and came to it many years later were also impressed by it and loved the film, the remake could never compete with that and it should never have been made. Its simply the creativity and ideas that made the original happen no longer exist in Hollywood....those are just some of the reasons why the remake is truly terrible and tanked badly...feel free to add more to this if there is anything I did not cover.....
Similarly to Robocop 3; Robocop (2014) deals with the themes of corporate empires corruption and government surveillance. It is a different time now as long gone are the days of “put on a suit, try to climb that corporate ladder” while the theme to Perfect Strangers plays. The concept of a company going “our employee may be dead, but his employment to us is not” was not the reality it is today and not as shocking. 2014 instead used its story to reflect the corporate greed as a baseline, but also the lengths they’re willing to go to make themselves try and look good. The complete control OCP has over entities like the police department and silencing officers who speak up against internal corruption is a prevalent issue that movie focuses on. Though I do find it silly at the end he was reunited with his wife and son. That was a head scratcher of a choice for sure. I don’t do videos, though I’m sure there’s plenty of other videos of the topic expressed at the top. I have faith that if Under The Mayo did a video on 2014 it would be discussing the current dystopian antics like were present in this one as opposed to thoroughly bashing.
I recently watched the Robocop trillogy. I'd say Robocop 2 expanded on OCP wanting to buy out Detroit so they can turn it into Delta city. It had this whole plot with the mayor and stuff. What really scared me is the concept of a mega corp buying out large swathes of realestate. Sound familiar? Ever heard of Blackrock or Vanguard? What's even worse, in the movie, OCP deliberately made realestate cheaper for them to buy by making the places unlivable due to crime. Again, sound familiar? Have you seen New York or San Francisco recently? Shit's turning real.
What I liked most about this movie was the closing line. I thought it would've worked better in the second movie though. In Robocop 2 instead of the old man just getting in his limo and leaving he could've stopped to acknowledge Robocop for saving the day. "Good work officer. What did you say your name was? Murphy?" and Robocop replies "My friends call me Murphy. You may call me, Robocop." end scene.
I just want to say that I enjoy your content, Mayo. Ever since you admitted your own subjectivity, you have owned everything else you've ever presented. Your content is full of personality, wit and grit. I genuinely don't see why you haven't been recognized as a staple at this point. But that doesn't seem to bother you in the slightest, and you'd be right. Godspeed.
Ive always been interested in the robocop prototype failures, I think the scene was in robocop 2. That would make a cool video as to why they failed and robocop succeeded, ego, body image etc.
My 2 cents about idolization: heroes deserve to be idolized. Doesn't matter if he's a cop or not, robocop earned the right to have his action figures after what he did in robocop 1 and 2, that's it. If your local Uber driver saved kids from a burning house he deserves his action figure too, his job simply doesn't matter. Unless you think ppl shouldn't be idolized period, the idea of an individual should be treated differently according to his job is wild.
I'm surprised, given what you said, that you didn't mention that, in fact, it was the police force that ultimately joined forces with the people to fight off the rehabs
I'd say the toy the little girl had shows how things like Robocop are neutral entities and can be good things or bad things depending on how they are used and the circumstances. Robocop is good but OCP still put him together. They are the reason he exists despite all the bad things they may do. It's the same thing with money. Money is NOT the root of all evil no matter what they may say. Money by itself is a tool and is neither evil nor good. It's what people do with it or for it that truly makes the difference.
OCP is NOR coming back for the rebels houses. They are bankrupted at the end of the movie cause they had a deadline to pay the loan they got, which they miss due to the actions of RoboCop, DoctorWoman and HackerGirl. Capitalism saves the day at the end.
Wonderful! Glorious! I'm on anatomy classes, will have to watch later, but I can certainly tell the magnificent trilogy is now complete and great. I value your video on the first one very much so it pleases me to see that it all went so well. Edit: I really like it. Waiting to see your RoboCop video game coverage.
Well, I remember going to the discount theater to see this with my brothers. It was such a letdown. How do you mess up Robocop? But thanks for the commentary. The world we live in gets increasingly scarier as we continue down this dystopian path. At least CC Pounder was great in "Demon Knight". She's a great actress!
It's a cool film. Would be better if robocop had limited ammo and whenever he gets shot he would do a glory kill to repair his armor. And a style meter
The action figures in the movie caused a memory of my childhood to pop up. My hometown police dept in the late 90s had baseball-style trading cards of all of the officers and their ranks that you could collect by visiting the station, or were handed out by officers visiting schools (DARE program related I guess, don't remember much detail). Looking back, that was kinda weird.
What's the name of the music track at the start of the video? That "bwaahhh" synth sounds like something Matt Furniss did on Sega Genesis games, I love it. Thanks in advance!
I imagine that in a future America, there would still be toy Companies as there are today, with real life merchandising (some of it very good) there may have been an intentional contrast between a ROBOCOP toy & a rehab Soldier. I should have mentioned the resistance units were a great idea, as well, finally what was threatened in the original, IS hapening now, the clearing of the streets, etc. in short, if it wasnt for ORION pictures going bankrupt, at that time (something mirrored with OCP in the film) & having to find a wider audience,(this one cost even more than the 2nd film) this 3rd film could compete with the original, for it's story, ironically the cynical themes of the story don't suite a kids film any way, the social comment would go over their heads & probably did.
Fast upload, impressed. OCP selling RoboCop toys kinda predicted the remake doing tests on what model they'd use for Murphy in the field and even tried with sirens like he's a Transformer or something.
Aww man- right when when I thought the intro / pre-amble was done it turns out it was the end of the video. I got too used to your long format videos with Robocop hahah still a great watch!
I will never agree that Robocop 3 is a bad movie. Yes, it is somewhat lighter in tone than the first movie, but it is still a solid movie with good acting, good set designs, great camera work, fantastic score and a solid, coherent story. There is not much one can seriously criticize about the third movie. Yes, the Robocop flies in the end, so what? It's the end sequence of the third movie, the protagonist is supposed to get its 11th hour superpower by this point. Yes, the Japanese zaibatsu has highly advanced ninja droids, because Japan was considered vastly technologically superior at that point in history. Yes, Miko is a child genius, and it is established in the first shots, with her playing with tech toys and fiddling with her computer at all times.
He isn't a normal cop, He is also an add for advanced technology in general and how OCP has some. he was considered as one of the people, but he was replaced. a few action figures were left over. no wonder a poor kid is playing with them right?
Bookending the first movie, when Reed clearly stated to his men that the police does not strike. Well, neither they did in R3 - they resigned and gave up their patches instead (but not the equipment).
RoboCop 3 reminds me of the 'Beautification' of Bothell. It started Pre 2008 Financial crash with the City of Bothell attempting to buy peoples homes at less than half the vallue of the properties. When that failed, the City subdevided the properties to force people out through taxation. A rather large farm by the Highschool started a charity to fund keeping people in their homes, so the city passed an ordanence against having more that a certain amount of livestock, trying to force the farm owners into bankruptcy. This was done rather quickly I might add. Much too quickly to be coicidence. In the end. Bothel leveled many generational homes, the middle school and a good portion of the family owned buisnesses of the area. Now it's full of half abandoned appartment high rises, empty Office buildings and, Starbucks on every corner. That's progress.
I really really enjoyed this. I have never been a fan of politics because it makes me depressed, but recently I have enjoyed hearing about it a bit more because it gets me thinking. I enjoyed hearing your thoughts and beliefs, even if it was quite a depressing topic to delve into.
In an early screenplay for RoboCop 2 RoboCop himself was supposed to have been offline for 25 years waking up to an even worse world. Among other things the "I'd buy that for a dollar!" guy was the president. So yeah, these movies were prescient.
I definitely see ocp selling robocop figures. They were going bankrupt so it makes sense why they’d do something that sleazy. Robocop is also their property so he’d have no say
When I was a kid, my local police department in monaca, Pennsylvania. They had baseball cards and you can Collect your favorite Cops. And it would say they're Number of arrests up to that point and stats basicallee if they killed anyone inaction if their partner was killed in action.
I will always be robocop 3’s biggest defender. I went into it with literally bottom of the barrel expectations and left surprised that despite the silliness and stuff shoved in by the higher ups, the story itself and satire were still really good. I can look past it’s many faults and see the good beneath
Making this video was a very ballsy move to make, but you know what? Good on you. You're spot-on. I honestly don't see how anyone can disagree or be upset with this analysis.
I still really want to now see what you think of the Frank Miller Robocop in comparison to Robocop 2 and 3. Also if you play MK I assume, like me, you totally mained Robocop in MK11. Man that was the best announcement video I ever saw when it was revealed that Robocop would be in MK11.
Can't wait for you to cover the reboot Robocop film as it was first Robocop film I saw before watching the original film lol I will have fun listening to you.discuss it
Yeah because I feel like what can be said has already been said. I found it more fun to look at some particular themes, because outside of them it's just not a good movie at all.
Heres a way robocop 3 can still exist if they make robo 4. Have this version of the movie be a bad movie released in their world and it was a big hit, meanwhile what really happened that day was more dark and gray. Picture MIB2 where K remembers Cerlina arriving on earth to get the light of zartha. Where Lewis death, the war, and the bloodshed was more violent and clearly traumatizing. You can even get Niko back to clarify she wasnt a hacker she was a smart kid who tried to help robo. He basically is a father in her life. Oh and as a joke, everyone asks about the jetpack and robo keeps answering that was just for a movie, he has no jetpack.
I actually really enjoyed Robocop 3 for the exact reason you've stated. It reflects and predicts reality very well, so much so that I'm surprised it got made.
Can't wait for your review of Rogue City and your deep analysis of Robocop Korean fried chicken commercial (and KFC Robocop...what's up with Robocop and fried chicken?)
The original WEST WORLD film, is an underrated classic, you seem to like the social comment type sci fi, & so I would recommend West world (a film that warns of the dangers of future technology) and comments about Americas gun violence problems, & where they originate, in the "wild west" both TERMINATOR & ROBOCOP tore pages from it. (if you havent seen it already) it's also a black comedy.
6:30 "It's kind of fucked up" That's everything about Robocop and capitalism. Which is the point. To be fair, though, it's less horrific than you think because the entirety of Robocop is not a celebration of robot policing. The movie is about a man effectively enslaved by his corporate masters and exploited horrifically before he finally is able to rebel.
Not a great movie, shame because I feel Fred Dekker could've made an amazing RoboCop movie, but I do kinda love the rocket pack and his machine gun arm -- also Stephen Root and Bradley Whitford
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Tbf we been living in a dystopia for years at this point cyberpunk fiction is no longer enjoyable to me cuz we livin it
Some of these takes are quite wrong. We aren't in a society haves and have-nots. Wealth inequality is a myth as it ignores that the poor in western developed countries will have more than the poor of the past or even in modern poor countries. The standard of living has been raised for everyone. But the ultra rich no doubt have so much more money than you can dream of.
Also any criticism of capitalism is misguided as it usually diagnoses it's use of greed and excess as unique when it is present in other nations. Especially when we don't live in a free market society anymore when the government picks and chooses what companies to regulate. You even pay taxes on private property.
Also weird that you claimed politicians shooting guns irl is akin to promoting violence. That's a non sequitur.
Can you please do the new remake The Robocop 2014 🙏
@DatcleanMochaJo LOL this comment is straight out of one of those commercials in the robocop universe
"any criticism of capitalism is misguided"@@jorgeloredo100
I hope he makes some kind of unhinged video rebuttal that would be awesome.
His view is also sooo important that it can't be a regular comment, he's gotta put it right here under my pinned links.
"... the closer we get to robots patrolling the streets... the whole concept of Robocop becomes less cool." My dude I never knew a video essay could be a TRAGEDY
The remake is a terrible movie, but I think one of the reasons why it failed to badly, is because it showed things that already existed when the movie came out.
It's always a delight to remember that we're actively living in a dystopian nightmare
People voted for this. Democracy is oppressive.
Evil corps enslaving us but we're too distracted with their products
Definitely i agree
I know right? And we did not even get flying cars. All we got is electric cars that can catch fire and burn for days while spewing toxic fumes in the air that are even worse than carbon. I feel as though we got ripped off big time.
I'm good with it :) I'm fortune that I got to grow up in a nice world decades back........ future generations are doomed.
The story of RoboCop 3 is actually pretty interesting (arguably better than 2), yes even including the robotic ninjas (the sleekness of a Japanese car vs the blocky American version is a neat idea to explore in the world of RoboCop). It’s the execution of the film that fails it. And Robo needs Lewis, IMO. She’s his link to his old self that helps keep him human. I hate what they did with her in this movie.
Same. If they were going to off her make it later in the film and more meaningful. It was a real throwaway.
@@mikeadams7904 “Do you want your body armor?”
“No, I’m off duty.”
Girl, you’re going somewhere with Murphy. Bring your body armor.
It just made her seem really dumb.
Maybe Rogue City will jump start a sequel where she's brought back as a cyborg, but with much more of her human identity and old body intact. It'll be interesting to explore any dichotomy between her and her almost-fully robotic partner
@@h8GWshe is a strong support character in the rogue city.
Heard Nancy only agreed to be in the movie if they killed her off
I saw a meme of RoboCop that was both disturbing and funny af. It had a picture of RoboCop with the caption "Dude died, but they made him go to work anyway."
About right, especially in food!
The scene where the Police go up against McDaggett is one of the best scenes in the series.
And with what's going on with the Israel/Gaza dispute, Robocop 3 plot is very relevant to today's world. But its execution and it tone down violence is what let the film down.
@@Renegade2786 Its orion's fault to make it PG-13 to appeal to a larger audience.
@@Kyddosuperstar I just recently rewatched the RoboCop trilogy and I must say that there is not much less violence and blood in it than in the second part. And in modern PG-13 films, there is often no blood at all. In the scene where RoboCop's partner is shot, there is enough blood. Lewis's chest was full of holes and her clothes were soaked in blood.
"Let's show them how real cops kick ass."
Thanks I always enjoyed that showdown too
I truly don't think is as bad as most people think. For me the premise alone and whole idea of RoboCop siding with the citizens against his programming is incredibly strong. It really takes his character in a new direction.
Wow. This was a great video. I'm impressed with the analysis of 3. This is a brilliant way to reintroduce such a terrible movie, I'm glad you drew the parallels to real life instead of just giving your take on what sucks and why. Thank you for the insight. It really is a terrifying world they portrayed - and it's even more horrific that it's real.
Real art imitates real life, and vice versa. The best stories are anthropological. They are the story of mankind, and everyone can relate to that no matter what time you are born into. It is our (awful) history, and our legacy, and it's a part of our DNA. It is all we know.
Real life is rated X, not PG. When you make everything deluded, and made for children, because you're trying to brainwash the masses, the art will ALWAYS suffer first. The writing is on the wall (again), and we are doomed to repeat our own (awful) history, up until the last human being is dead. That's the grand scheme of our reality.
idk why mayo is uploading rapidly, buti better enjoy it while it last
There's been a lot to cover lately.
Honestly same
Yes I'm just glad to catch as it's coming FR!!
RoboCop game just came out, so he's striking before the iron cools.
We are living in a Cyberpunk world, but without the cool technology.
Last time I saw Robocop 3 was with my dad back when the movie was released on theaters. Guess it’s time to give it another watch. Great analysis.
Smart phones are literally comparable to cyber implants. We are in fact in high technology, but hidden in layers of legacy tech.
I always assumed OCP made the Robocop and ED-209 figures to help fund the program for their continued development and maintenance
At the end of the Johnny Rehab commercial it’s written “From Kanemitsu”.
action figure for robocop make sense to OCP he isn't human he a product like ED. its like marketing police cars for hotwheels. You lego police man so on. Your not marketing alex murphy as far as OCP is concerned he died. They are marketing a produce that exclusive to OCP.
Also, you ever notice OCP's sleek design went to the grave with Bob Morton and Dick Jones? Robocop is pretty slick given he's a cyborg and ED-209 is just pure menace, but all the Robocop 2s are pure garbage design wise. No wonder OTOMO is impressive, it looks awesome as a concept. I think the real reason OCP went into bankruptcy throughout the series is because all of their creative designers got killed in the first movie.
The Robocop action figures actually made much sense. Robocop, ended up been a very popular character with kids in those days. So how do you turn the hero of violent films with heavy drug related crime into something that could be consumed by kids? Action figures.
The girl holding an action figure of Robocop works like a toy commercial. Hey kids, buy one too.
Could also go in line with the bit in Robocop 2 when the executives brainstorm ideas to make Robo more child-friendly by reprogramming him to be a caricature of himself. Maybe as part of that effort to sanitize Robocop's image, it includes selling action figures of him.
lol, when this movie came out I had a RoboCop toy that was almost identical to the one in this movie.
Excellent take on this, especially 30 years on from when RoboCop 3 released.
The dark cyberpunk future was a lot cooler when it was just science fiction, and not something thatwe are constantly living in day-to-day like we have been since the 2020s began.
There is a reason in each dark cyberpunk movie, especially Blade Runner, that the protagonists are all exhausted, over worked, drink to cope, and are weary of their existence as a cog of an unstoppable corporate/state-owned machine.
Cyberpunk isn't about saving the world, it is about surviving in that world, and that is something that RoboCop puts on full display.
As a kid back in the 90s, this was my introduction to robocop. I thought it was COOL... fast forwarding time I preferred the 1st film for its theme. Im playing rogue city and tbh.... THAT shoulda been Robocop 3.
To me, I prefer Robocop 3 as a much well made sequel of the original because the first movie established precedents for what it would come to pass like the evictions, kicking the people and the vulnerable poor class from their home to the streets (yeah the second film foreshadows that in the conversation of the mayor and the Old Man) and having Murphy trying to form some new connections to replace the family he had lost in Nikko, Marie and the resistance. I mean, it did all the things Robocop II didn't or couldn't make.
Yeah, it's the whole thing about wanting to appeal to kids that undermines it. But I quite like it. And it has Basil Poledouris again killing it again with the music Score.
I was a kid of the 80s and we had police officer toys everywhere, they were extremely normal, none of specific police officers that I remember though
There was an entire cartoon called Cops. I guess it wasn't a big deal back then
Best attitude to police is neutrality. Sometimes they help you, sometimes they don't.
100%
All it takes is a phonecall from above or the union mobsters saying to let the city burn.
@@dansmith1661RoboCops politics is anti corporate big business, & its ongoing privatization into government. Biden is a good example of anti an union shill, a real life dystopian Democrat
Excellent review! I hope you do a deep analysis review about Robocop: Rogue City in the future! It's so insane to see Peter Weller's Robocop in 2023.
Anything can be politicized though. Whether it's the clothes you wear, the car you buy, the job you have, the things children are taught in schools, the media you consume etc. If RoboCop existed in real life of course there would be action figures of him. It's a part of human nature to look for hero's and rolemodels to look up to. And in a more cynical way, to politically and commercially exploit for the people in power. Pretty much all pop music is a bunch of producers artificially creating the next superstar, kind of like a RoboCop.
Always amazes me how little there is in the Robocop Universe. 3 original movie's, 1 remake, a few unspectacular series and some graphic novels
Yet just a single image of Robocop is absolutely iconic. They could have made dozens of movies and done well if they just stuck to the formula.
The original film is so iconic, it’s almost like all the bad sequels in the world can’t lessen it in any way, unlike many other franchises which get diluted by bad follow-ups. Despite the MANY bad things that came after, RoboCop remains my favorite film.
There are technically more sequels but nobody talks about them
@@procow2274 because they are even worse than 3 IMO
@procow2274 what sequels are they?
@@matthewnicholas6365 search Robocop Prime Directives
I heard recently about someone who approached three uniformed police officers outside of a bank to make a formal complaint about vandalism. They explained that they were actually off-duty but were posing as on-duty police officers because they were being paid privately by the bank. They went on to say, regardless of what action they would be expected to take while on-duty, they would simply do whatever the bank told them to do as the bank was the one paying them.
I can understand police officers working as private security in their own time, but I didn't know they were allowed to wear their uniforms while doing it.
Either way - gave me real OCP vibes.
In Venezuela is like this, supermarkets, markets, Banks, or any business that wants to pay for protection from the Police, can and will.
It goes by state. In California, for example, there is case law that prohibits police officers from wearing uniforms or exercising police powers while acting in the capacity of security (or any other job). I remember going to Dallas and seeing uniformed Dallas PD officers working security. The most surprising thing was that they also had marked Dallas PD units for these gigs. There's a lot that California gets wrong, but this isn't one of those.
@@albertov1837in Texas these cases happen because departments don’t have the funds to pay the overtime so for many large events the department will provide officers who volunteer and the event organizer covers the cost. The officers aren’t acting as anything more than officers assigned to that site.
That said, livened police also meet the qualifications of private security, but have far less authority working in that role.
For large events it makes sense for police to be nearby. Banks sometimes pay for it, but it’s still not going to mean doing anything more than what a cop would do if they happened to be parked out front during normal duty and something happened.
I'm not too 'well read' and don't always have the best way to describe things, but you've hit the nail on the head on how I feel about Robocop 3. It has some great ideas, but executed poorly. Ironically, it was the studio politics that made it what it is now. They wanted (as Nostalgia Critic said about 'Batman Forever') "safe and marketable". It was to be brought in line closer to the Robocop series than the other two movies and I remember another video speculating that it was meant to be a tie-in to the series, but they scrapped it and made a sequel. I doubt that myself, but it does fit the idea.
It's always nice to revisit a game or movie you didn't like at first, and come to appreciate aspects you didn't pick up on before. Very good work!
FINALLY,Someone managed to notice the deeper message behind the Robocop's action figure and understand the darker disturbing themes behind this otherwise deceptively goofy P-13 film.
While i still see the doll as a "Sign of hope" motto for the civ since Post Robocop 2,Murphy is pretty much consider as a "super hero/cop" of Detroit, poor guy is STILL OCP's property and people unknowing idolizing a corporate product which is gut wrenching.
Can you imagine how disturbing and eye opening it would be had this movie actually taken itself seriously ???
It's funny how i felt the same with the Reboot aswell where people simply hated it blind and didn't bother to see the bigger picture
I found it to be a Decent film/remake but i managed to brushed them aside and started to dissect and actually started to like the setting and theme where Cops can be just as much cruel if Corpos gotten in their brains and poor ol actual good cops like Murphy always takes the worst punishment and fated to become the product of the said corporation and so forth.
It really puts and bring me another question...wonder how many Bad films that actually has good and interesting ideas.
I didn't think robocop 3 was a bad movie , but it was a great movie like avg at best of coursse it is hard to live up to 1 & 2. I can't wait to play robocop game since it came out on steam pc.
The toys did happen. I still remember the hilarious reviews for the die cast toy drone and Playmobil's TSA set on Amazon.
Robocop stands as a beacon of hope. He is a creation and slave of corporate and state masters, yet he remains and incorruptible protector of the people. So incorruptible that he can violate his very reason for existing to protect the innocent from his masters. He is the ideal that we wish our own police to be. He is free from the avarice, vice, and prejudices that come from being fully human, yet he retains enough humanity to want to help mankind. Sadly, he is only fiction.
Great video and analysis! I recently rewatched RoboCop 3 and found myself arriving at the same conclusions. Scary the more you analyse it 😬
Thanks for talking about the (very few) interesting things about Robocop 3 instead of just shitting on it. It's worth shitting on, but it's much more interesting actively trying to find something worth talking about in regards to it
You should definitely do a deep dive into the remake of robocop and why it fails to live up to the original.
It failed to live up to the original because...IT WAS A REMAKE!!!!! That is the long and short of it. The original was unique, it was new, fresh, never been done. It was super violent, and yet funny and had a cool central character. It came out in the 80s at the height of the video era and gained a massive following on VHS, so in effect it struck the audience twice and burned itself into public conscience, because of its ideas of what happens to a man that is turned into a cyborg and the violent crime that is the cause of it. The remake was missing all of that, it was watered down, no violence no shock value. And it had been done before in the original and done better. The remake was no surprise like the original was, and had no shock value. The original made such an impact that people who were not even born when it was released and came to it many years later were also impressed by it and loved the film, the remake could never compete with that and it should never have been made. Its simply the creativity and ideas that made the original happen no longer exist in Hollywood....those are just some of the reasons why the remake is truly terrible and tanked badly...feel free to add more to this if there is anything I did not cover.....
Similarly to Robocop 3; Robocop (2014) deals with the themes of corporate empires corruption and government surveillance. It is a different time now as long gone are the days of “put on a suit, try to climb that corporate ladder” while the theme to Perfect Strangers plays. The concept of a company going “our employee may be dead, but his employment to us is not” was not the reality it is today and not as shocking.
2014 instead used its story to reflect the corporate greed as a baseline, but also the lengths they’re willing to go to make themselves try and look good. The complete control OCP has over entities like the police department and silencing officers who speak up against internal corruption is a prevalent issue that movie focuses on. Though I do find it silly at the end he was reunited with his wife and son. That was a head scratcher of a choice for sure.
I don’t do videos, though I’m sure there’s plenty of other videos of the topic expressed at the top. I have faith that if Under The Mayo did a video on 2014 it would be discussing the current dystopian antics like were present in this one as opposed to thoroughly bashing.
I recently watched the Robocop trillogy. I'd say Robocop 2 expanded on OCP wanting to buy out Detroit so they can turn it into Delta city. It had this whole plot with the mayor and stuff.
What really scared me is the concept of a mega corp buying out large swathes of realestate. Sound familiar? Ever heard of Blackrock or Vanguard? What's even worse, in the movie, OCP deliberately made realestate cheaper for them to buy by making the places unlivable due to crime. Again, sound familiar? Have you seen New York or San Francisco recently? Shit's turning real.
What I liked most about this movie was the closing line. I thought it would've worked better in the second movie though. In Robocop 2 instead of the old man just getting in his limo and leaving he could've stopped to acknowledge Robocop for saving the day. "Good work officer. What did you say your name was? Murphy?" and Robocop replies "My friends call me Murphy. You may call me, Robocop." end scene.
I just want to say that I enjoy your content, Mayo. Ever since you admitted your own subjectivity, you have owned everything else you've ever presented. Your content is full of personality, wit and grit. I genuinely don't see why you haven't been recognized as a staple at this point. But that doesn't seem to bother you in the slightest, and you'd be right. Godspeed.
Ive always been interested in the robocop prototype failures, I think the scene was in robocop 2. That would make a cool video as to why they failed and robocop succeeded, ego, body image etc.
I’ve gotta say……Kruger Industrial Smoothing did a fantastic job fixing up Murph’s armor.
My 2 cents about idolization: heroes deserve to be idolized. Doesn't matter if he's a cop or not, robocop earned the right to have his action figures after what he did in robocop 1 and 2, that's it. If your local Uber driver saved kids from a burning house he deserves his action figure too, his job simply doesn't matter. Unless you think ppl shouldn't be idolized period, the idea of an individual should be treated differently according to his job is wild.
I'm surprised, given what you said, that you didn't mention that, in fact, it was the police force that ultimately joined forces with the people to fight off the rehabs
Yeah I should have. At least you see it in the stills and well I talk about robocop joining them and I see him and the detroit police as one.
Nice shooting son, what's your name?
Murphy 😎
He's product, he's OCP, got it, mister?
I'd say the toy the little girl had shows how things like Robocop are neutral entities and can be good things or bad things depending on how they are used and the circumstances.
Robocop is good but OCP still put him together. They are the reason he exists despite all the bad things they may do.
It's the same thing with money. Money is NOT the root of all evil no matter what they may say. Money by itself is a tool and is neither evil nor good. It's what people do with it or for it that truly makes the difference.
OCP is NOR coming back for the rebels houses. They are bankrupted at the end of the movie cause they had a deadline to pay the loan they got, which they miss due to the actions of RoboCop, DoctorWoman and HackerGirl.
Capitalism saves the day at the end.
Wonderful! Glorious! I'm on anatomy classes, will have to watch later, but I can certainly tell the magnificent trilogy is now complete and great.
I value your video on the first one very much so it pleases me to see that it all went so well.
Edit: I really like it. Waiting to see your RoboCop video game coverage.
Well, I remember going to the discount theater to see this with my brothers. It was such a letdown. How do you mess up Robocop?
But thanks for the commentary. The world we live in gets increasingly scarier as we continue down this dystopian path.
At least CC Pounder was great in "Demon Knight". She's a great actress!
Friggin loved rb3 as a kid. That intro scene with the splatter punks and robocop coming to the rescue was awesome.
Loved this analysis series!! Rogue City review soon, hopefully?
Sadly didn't get a review copy so I'll be playing it while working on the Alan Wake 2 video. Aiming to get both out next week.
I assumed these robocop analyses where building up to the game review
will we get retrospectives on Robocop’s spinoffs like the cartoons, live action show, and 2014 reboot?
It's a cool film.
Would be better if robocop had limited ammo and whenever he gets shot he would do a glory kill to repair his armor.
And a style meter
Don't forget the chainsaw he needs to refill ammo 😂
The action figures in the movie caused a memory of my childhood to pop up. My hometown police dept in the late 90s had baseball-style trading cards of all of the officers and their ranks that you could collect by visiting the station, or were handed out by officers visiting schools (DARE program related I guess, don't remember much detail). Looking back, that was kinda weird.
A derek chauvin cop action figure would go down like a lead balloon
What's the name of the music track at the start of the video? That "bwaahhh" synth sounds like something Matt Furniss did on Sega Genesis games, I love it. Thanks in advance!
I imagine that in a future America, there would still be toy Companies as there are today, with real life merchandising (some of it very good) there may have been an intentional contrast between a ROBOCOP toy & a rehab Soldier.
I should have mentioned the resistance units were a great idea, as well, finally what was threatened in the original, IS hapening now, the clearing of the streets, etc.
in short, if it wasnt for ORION pictures going bankrupt, at that time (something mirrored with OCP in the film) & having to find a wider audience,(this one cost even more than the 2nd film) this 3rd film could compete with the original, for it's story, ironically the cynical themes of the story don't suite a kids film any way, the social comment would go over their heads & probably did.
Fast upload, impressed.
OCP selling RoboCop toys kinda predicted the remake doing tests on what model they'd use for Murphy in the field and even tried with sirens like he's a Transformer or something.
Aww man- right when when I thought the intro / pre-amble was done it turns out it was the end of the video. I got too used to your long format videos with Robocop hahah still a great watch!
The bit where the cops hand in their badges was a great scene
Loved this breakdown of Robocop 3. Well done.
I will never agree that Robocop 3 is a bad movie. Yes, it is somewhat lighter in tone than the first movie, but it is still a solid movie with good acting, good set designs, great camera work, fantastic score and a solid, coherent story. There is not much one can seriously criticize about the third movie. Yes, the Robocop flies in the end, so what? It's the end sequence of the third movie, the protagonist is supposed to get its 11th hour superpower by this point. Yes, the Japanese zaibatsu has highly advanced ninja droids, because Japan was considered vastly technologically superior at that point in history. Yes, Miko is a child genius, and it is established in the first shots, with her playing with tech toys and fiddling with her computer at all times.
Dude, when I grew ip we had police action figures. They were cool.
Were they state produced, representing actual officers in your city? Cause that's what we're talking about here. Not general cop action figures.
Lol. The third movie was so bad that it made you question whether you wanted robocop or not.
It's called predictive programming
He isn't a normal cop, He is also an add for advanced technology in general and how OCP has some. he was considered as one of the people, but he was replaced. a few action figures were left over. no wonder a poor kid is playing with them right?
Todd Mcfarlane made figures of deployed soldiers
paw patrol 7:20
You spent a lot of time thinking about a toy man.
The best scene in Robocop 3 for me is when all the cops walk out and Reed says something to the effect of "I need to go home and face my family."
Bookending the first movie, when Reed clearly stated to his men that the police does not strike. Well, neither they did in R3 - they resigned and gave up their patches instead (but not the equipment).
@@nm7358 Reed was a great leader. He didn't ask his men to follow him, they just did.
RoboCop 3 reminds me of the 'Beautification' of Bothell. It started Pre 2008 Financial crash with the City of Bothell attempting to buy peoples homes at less than half the vallue of the properties. When that failed, the City subdevided the properties to force people out through taxation. A rather large farm by the Highschool started a charity to fund keeping people in their homes, so the city passed an ordanence against having more that a certain amount of livestock, trying to force the farm owners into bankruptcy. This was done rather quickly I might add. Much too quickly to be coicidence. In the end. Bothel leveled many generational homes, the middle school and a good portion of the family owned buisnesses of the area. Now it's full of half abandoned appartment high rises, empty Office buildings and, Starbucks on every corner. That's progress.
I still have my Robocop and Ed-209 toys. Their Awesome!
I really really enjoyed this. I have never been a fan of politics because it makes me depressed, but recently I have enjoyed hearing about it a bit more because it gets me thinking. I enjoyed hearing your thoughts and beliefs, even if it was quite a depressing topic to delve into.
In an early screenplay for RoboCop 2 RoboCop himself was supposed to have been offline for 25 years waking up to an even worse world. Among other things the "I'd buy that for a dollar!" guy was the president. So yeah, these movies were prescient.
I definitely see ocp selling robocop figures. They were going bankrupt so it makes sense why they’d do something that sleazy. Robocop is also their property so he’d have no say
When I was a kid, my local police department in monaca, Pennsylvania. They had baseball cards and you can Collect your favorite Cops. And it would say they're Number of arrests up to that point and stats basicallee if they killed anyone inaction if their partner was killed in action.
This is wild to me. If what you're saying is true that's completely inappropriate.
I will always be robocop 3’s biggest defender. I went into it with literally bottom of the barrel expectations and left surprised that despite the silliness and stuff shoved in by the higher ups, the story itself and satire were still really good. I can look past it’s many faults and see the good beneath
Have you read 'RoboCop: Last Stand'? Its a graphic novel based on Frank Miller's original R-rated script for RoboCop 3.
I just watched a video covering the entire story. It’s pretty epic.
I don't know why in cyberpunk the idea of America being overtaken as a the world superpower by Japan or china is seen as terrifying.
This. This is why I think RoboCop should get a revival and be rebooted PROPERLY. Everything about it is STILL relevant today.
Would you review the new Robocop video game?
I would argue that our timeline is even more depressing than Robocop's.
Heyo Mayo, still loving the channel brother. I hope you have a great holiday season with the fam buddy
Making this video was a very ballsy move to make, but you know what? Good on you. You're spot-on. I honestly don't see how anyone can disagree or be upset with this analysis.
I still really want to now see what you think of the Frank Miller Robocop in comparison to Robocop 2 and 3. Also if you play MK I assume, like me, you totally mained Robocop in MK11. Man that was the best announcement video I ever saw when it was revealed that Robocop would be in MK11.
Can't wait for you to cover the reboot Robocop film as it was first Robocop film I saw before watching the original film lol
I will have fun listening to you.discuss it
I'm sorry my child.
@@underthemayo
Damn.
It's been fun having you discuss the trilogy though.
aww this one wasnt like the other 2 robocop videos, he focused on a single moment and not the entire mvie :c
Yeah because I feel like what can be said has already been said. I found it more fun to look at some particular themes, because outside of them it's just not a good movie at all.
Robocop 3 is awesome.
Heres a way robocop 3 can still exist if they make robo 4.
Have this version of the movie be a bad movie released in their world and it was a big hit, meanwhile what really happened that day was more dark and gray.
Picture MIB2 where K remembers Cerlina arriving on earth to get the light of zartha. Where Lewis death, the war, and the bloodshed was more violent and clearly traumatizing.
You can even get Niko back to clarify she wasnt a hacker she was a smart kid who tried to help robo. He basically is a father in her life.
Oh and as a joke, everyone asks about the jetpack and robo keeps answering that was just for a movie, he has no jetpack.
I like that we both have a lot of the same opinions on robocop
I think they have RoboCop figures as the spin team from 2 are trying to make him a hero after the very public Cain fight.
FUN FACT
ROBOCOP
helping the resistance
was used in the video game
ROBOCOP vs TERMINATOR
I actually really enjoyed Robocop 3 for the exact reason you've stated. It reflects and predicts reality very well, so much so that I'm surprised it got made.
If they'd stuck with the gritty realism of the first one this could have been a good sequel.
Nice timing, thanks! Just watched part 1&2 🤣
Will you be making a video on the 2014 remake?
A couple other things: it’s own by Jeff bezos and robocop isn’t even played by the original Murphy anymore
Love the step into movie retrospectives keep it up
I shouldnt like ocp but the Johnny Rehab character is pretty badass.
Robocop 3 without a pg13 rating could have been much better.
Finally some good light on Robo Cop Triple Ballen
Can't wait for your review of Rogue City and your deep analysis of Robocop Korean fried chicken commercial (and KFC Robocop...what's up with Robocop and fried chicken?)
Turns out aside from the specially made “baby food”, Robocop can also eat fried chicken.
What the Hell?!
The original WEST WORLD film, is an underrated classic, you seem to like the social comment type sci fi, & so I would recommend West world (a film that warns of the dangers of future technology) and comments about Americas gun violence problems, & where they originate, in the "wild west" both TERMINATOR & ROBOCOP tore pages from it.
(if you havent seen it already) it's also a black comedy.
6:30 "It's kind of fucked up"
That's everything about Robocop and capitalism. Which is the point. To be fair, though, it's less horrific than you think because the entirety of Robocop is not a celebration of robot policing. The movie is about a man effectively enslaved by his corporate masters and exploited horrifically before he finally is able to rebel.
Now I see that Detroit Robocop statue in a different light :(
I remember the SciFi channel kept playing this over and over and we would actually watch it just to put it down.
Not a great movie, shame because I feel Fred Dekker could've made an amazing RoboCop movie, but I do kinda love the rocket pack and his machine gun arm -- also Stephen Root and Bradley Whitford
Rip torn wasn't too bad either.