I also kept thinking time wise how long it takes to set up the tracks. They seem only worth it for large resource hauling I think. Frontline transport would only work if we could build tunnels and such through difficult terrain, otherwise it's just a road with extra steps. Would be cool if they added some wrecked train tunnels in rough terrain maps that you had to clear out to use.
Wrecked train tracks even. I mean we have roads which you can use basically from the get go, why not railway tracks ? As far as I know you don't have access to the vehicles from the start anyways, so you would only be able to use them later regardless.
That's certainly the more efficient way of using the trains. But they were also said to be able to unload pre-prepared tanks to go straight into battle. However doing it this way is probably only more time efficient with the REALLY slow tanks(not light tanks like we did).
They are not using any fuel while on the Train and you can take more then you can crew to gift away. So those are some benefits. I guess it would help time wise a lot when the track builder isn't drunk and plans ahead. Straight rail lines are usually a bit more efficient then snaking around the map.
The thing I see Trains doing is supplying an entire front, needing only 3 or 4 trains to forward supplies from the rear cities to the forward cities for the entire map, which would be distribution points for logi trucks throughout the front.
I work with a backline crew and its good for getting large amounts of refined materials to midline for producing. You can transport a max of 720 bmat crates for 12 train cars
I think what makes the trip so slow is the ridiculous amount curves and zigzags in that track. With an efficient route, this would beat any other form of logi.
Trains are awesome for mid like support. My regiment was dedicated to supplying other regiment who was focused on fighting. Smaller logistics teams picked up supply from the depot drop off point after we unloaded it from the train, and then had a transport car back to the train depot to help load in more supply. My front never had a supply issue, and we had other regiments even try to come 'borrow' supplies from us simply because we had so much of it going to the front. I stopped playing because it got so stressful being the conductor. I had so many arguments with other regiment leaders. Like you're welcome to build railways on top of ours, I dont mind. But dont expect us to add on more supply while were also supplying three regiments in a constant battle 24/7.
This is a totally inefficient way of transporting tanks. You can transport far more tanks to the front by shipping MPF crates of tanks to Frontline logi depots and pulling them out from THERE. A 10-bed train can transport 30 crated tanks that can be safely stored until needed as opposed to only 10 individual tanks that will just end up parked at some bob and stolen. You can even include a container of 40/68mm ammunition as well and if the front needs it they can pull from a Frontline depot. Don't fully fuel n arm tanks and just send them to the front hoping someone will use them, be smart and send them via crates for true efficiency
Certainly what we did was not efficient(never claimed to be), but we wanted to use the trains for moving prepped armor to the front(like the devs said you can) and see what it's like. Which we decided was a waste of time since we transported light tanks which could have gotten to our destination faster if we just drove there.
There is a lot of comments here stating that this is an "inefficient" way of transport because you can just use MPF crated tanks. To hell with efficiency, if there is some public armor in depot i will transport that to the closest front depot because it looks cool. I soloed trains (made it solo too) and while it took a lot of time i had my fun.
Yeah, certainly the coolness of transporting tanks around like that is really high. And wow, thats some dedication to make a train and transport stuff solo. Really admirable that you do that.
The idea of this game is so fucking cool. Don't have anyone to play with, but I might try to get some people for their next game (Anvil Empires) together.
Humm i’m thinking .. maybe a good way to use train is to transport ready to fight vehicules from front to front and make like a train that can go all the way north to south to make quick reposition of large forces trough tho whole front, but in the end isn’t it just more worth it to build tank and put them in stand by on all fronts .. idk
Yeah, using trains to reposition SLOW tanks is best use for trains. Though it's not as useful for MOST other tanks since you can reposition AT LEAST a hex away before you get the train prepped and loaded with the tank(s). And considering it is really hard to NOT loose ANY armor when you are fighting on an active front it makes it basically impossible to reposition tanks that were in combat(unless you are lucky enough to have a garage nearby to repair armor) since the armor on vehicles NEEDS to be fully repaired before they can be packaged. Lastly I would agree with your assessment that it would probably be more worth it to build tanks and keep them on stand by on all fronts because of the time and cost increase using a train would entail.
Could trains play a bigger part in the future when then ease the maintenance and maby there is a hope for better tracks instead of squiggly lines? Maby even signals as I saw in a comment a little more down in whichever way it might help?
Trains play a large role right now it's just that due to the high maintenance and logistical work it require. It basically makes it exclusively used by [big] dedicated regiments.
its very worth it in terms of capacity its 3x more then a barge can go anywhere in the game and is multiple times faster so all in all its about 6x better then a barge and a barge is 5x lesser then a flatbed
Yeah, and I meant that I too didn't know why they didn't build tracks up to abandoned ward. The only reason I can come up with is that they didn't want to build across the pits and hills leading up to AW and crowd 5he city itself.
I also kept thinking time wise how long it takes to set up the tracks. They seem only worth it for large resource hauling I think. Frontline transport would only work if we could build tunnels and such through difficult terrain, otherwise it's just a road with extra steps. Would be cool if they added some wrecked train tunnels in rough terrain maps that you had to clear out to use.
Great idea.
Wrecked train tracks even. I mean we have roads which you can use basically from the get go, why not railway tracks ? As far as I know you don't have access to the vehicles from the start anyways, so you would only be able to use them later regardless.
Not really because now one player can bring several tanks and thousands of units worth of supplies to the frontline themself.
@@dankengine5304 Yeah, that’s the point of trains.
@@RuthlessCrawdad - Yes but his question was “is it worth it?”
My answer? Yes.
I think they're more for transporting crates of vehicles to mid or frontline seaports and depots instead of individual tanks
That's certainly the more efficient way of using the trains. But they were also said to be able to unload pre-prepared tanks to go straight into battle. However doing it this way is probably only more time efficient with the REALLY slow tanks(not light tanks like we did).
it looks cool to see the tanks on the train though
They are not using any fuel while on the Train and you can take more then you can crew to gift away. So those are some benefits.
I guess it would help time wise a lot when the track builder isn't drunk and plans ahead. Straight rail lines are usually a bit more efficient then snaking around the map.
@@BrodatheMaster to combat the queue i guess, one person can deliver more thing rather then one person per vehicle
@@boomerix snaking is needed because of existing infrastructure by the time they are unlocked. And the map.
The thing I see Trains doing is supplying an entire front, needing only 3 or 4 trains to forward supplies from the rear cities to the forward cities for the entire map, which would be distribution points for logi trucks throughout the front.
Like it works in real life. Trains are way more efficent than trucks in real life
I can imagine the logistics boys would be pretty damn happy to have these.
I work with a backline crew and its good for getting large amounts of refined materials to midline for producing. You can transport a max of 720 bmat crates for 12 train cars
I think what makes the trip so slow is the ridiculous amount curves and zigzags in that track. With an efficient route, this would beat any other form of logi.
Some foreman probably got paid for each mile of track lol
1:30 That's a lovely train yard!
I also found it very beautiful at that (non- standard)angle.
Trains are awesome for mid like support. My regiment was dedicated to supplying other regiment who was focused on fighting.
Smaller logistics teams picked up supply from the depot drop off point after we unloaded it from the train, and then had a transport car back to the train depot to help load in more supply.
My front never had a supply issue, and we had other regiments even try to come 'borrow' supplies from us simply because we had so much of it going to the front.
I stopped playing because it got so stressful being the conductor. I had so many arguments with other regiment leaders. Like you're welcome to build railways on top of ours, I dont mind. But dont expect us to add on more supply while were also supplying three regiments in a constant battle 24/7.
Yeah, if you are doing trains it seems like a second job for all the maintenance it would require
This is a totally inefficient way of transporting tanks. You can transport far more tanks to the front by shipping MPF crates of tanks to Frontline logi depots and pulling them out from THERE. A 10-bed train can transport 30 crated tanks that can be safely stored until needed as opposed to only 10 individual tanks that will just end up parked at some bob and stolen. You can even include a container of 40/68mm ammunition as well and if the front needs it they can pull from a Frontline depot.
Don't fully fuel n arm tanks and just send them to the front hoping someone will use them, be smart and send them via crates for true efficiency
Certainly what we did was not efficient(never claimed to be), but we wanted to use the trains for moving prepped armor to the front(like the devs said you can) and see what it's like. Which we decided was a waste of time since we transported light tanks which could have gotten to our destination faster if we just drove there.
Those tracks were terribly laid out, no wonder it wasn't time efficient.
There is a lot of comments here stating that this is an "inefficient" way of transport because you can just use MPF crated tanks. To hell with efficiency, if there is some public armor in depot i will transport that to the closest front depot because it looks cool. I soloed trains (made it solo too) and while it took a lot of time i had my fun.
Yeah, certainly the coolness of transporting tanks around like that is really high. And wow, thats some dedication to make a train and transport stuff solo. Really admirable that you do that.
You can't mpf specialized versions or BTs. That is what these are good for.
The idea of this game is so fucking cool. Don't have anyone to play with, but I might try to get some people for their next game (Anvil Empires) together.
Humm i’m thinking .. maybe a good way to use train is to transport ready to fight vehicules from front to front and make like a train that can go all the way north to south to make quick reposition of large forces trough tho whole front, but in the end isn’t it just more worth it to build tank and put them in stand by on all fronts .. idk
Yeah, using trains to reposition SLOW tanks is best use for trains. Though it's not as useful for MOST other tanks since you can reposition AT LEAST a hex away before you get the train prepped and loaded with the tank(s). And considering it is really hard to NOT loose ANY armor when you are fighting on an active front it makes it basically impossible to reposition tanks that were in combat(unless you are lucky enough to have a garage nearby to repair armor) since the armor on vehicles NEEDS to be fully repaired before they can be packaged. Lastly I would agree with your assessment that it would probably be more worth it to build tanks and keep them on stand by on all fronts because of the time and cost increase using a train would entail.
I like trains
TRAINS ME LIKE!!!!
Infrastructure is key for transporting supplies across the world
I too like trains
Could trains play a bigger part in the future when then ease the maintenance and maby there is a hope for better tracks instead of squiggly lines? Maby even signals as I saw in a comment a little more down in whichever way it might help?
Trains play a large role right now it's just that due to the high maintenance and logistical work it require. It basically makes it exclusively used by [big] dedicated regiments.
how much fuel does the train use compared to the tanks? it might be more fuel-effiecient doing it this way
its coal which is readily avialable
its very worth it in terms of capacity its 3x more then a barge can go anywhere in the game and is multiple times faster so all in all its about 6x better then a barge and a barge is 5x lesser then a flatbed
Who designed this train route Union Pacific? It’s all twisty
Remember Charlie? :D
Well, if it was on Charlie it was War 1. War 96 was on Able.
Ik, but I think most people follow the idea of Able being the "real" war so I used war 96 as the "anchor point" for the vets in their time-line.
I like trainz
in the end i was wonder... why the fk the train not connected to the central town?
IDK, I guess you can say that's Charlie server for you.
@@BrodatheMaster well i means, the mid of dradland had factory, storage, and etc, it was a perfect frontline logi hub.
Yeah, and I meant that I too didn't know why they didn't build tracks up to abandoned ward. The only reason I can come up with is that they didn't want to build across the pits and hills leading up to AW and crowd 5he city itself.
ive been here before but.. wow.
Devman please add signals
What kind of signals do you have in mind?
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Everyone on the front line be like
o.o
Can you use the narrow gauge locomotives up by the frontlines kinda like they used trench railways in World War 1?
Yee haaww
I like trains
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