England's heavy Hamilton defeat & what next for Zak Crawley? | Sky Sports Cricket Podcast
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Nasser Hussain and Michael Atherton react to England’s heavy Hamilton defeat, consider what’s next for Zak Crawley and discuss the emergence of Jacob Bethell, all in the context of an excellent away series win.
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The banter between these two is tremendous…having a pop at each other constantly backed up with great knowledge regarding the game of cricket…keep it up men you are a great listen….
Thank you Nasser Hussain and Michael Atherton for your podcasts over the years! I really enjoy listening to you both! Merry Christmas and New Year to you both ❤
I'm a Kiwi, but love (and have always loved) listening to these two talk about cricket.
Both avg in 30s . And strike rate of 30s as well.
@@jiteshkumar3774And what has that got to do with anything being commented on here?
it doesn't have to be mutually exclusive.
Shame that Hussain and Atherton don't take into account the output of Crawley and Duckett as a pair. Even after a poor series for Crawley, they have a better average than Gooch and Boycott, Atherton and Butcher, Jaffer and Sehwag, Elgar and Markram, Gavaskar and Gaekwad, and pretty much par with Warner and Khawaja, Atherton and Stewart and all this at a strike rate that has winded the best attacks.
Crawley has handled the best - do the english press really want to ruin our chances down under just to fill columns? Concentrate on replacing Pope with Bethel instead.
So true
I love Hussain and atherton but they have that negativity that can be a little outdated
Crawley has been fantastic bar this series
Atherton had more bad series and he knows what it’s like to open, disjointing he isn’t showing more support.
Bethel comes in for Pope not Crawley
@@karenedison5426he averages 30 in 53 tests
Crawley is poor with consistency. Time to move on
@@jellslixcy6168 43 against Australiea and over 50 in the last Ashes in 2023. He also played the only innings of note when we last toured down under and impressed Ponting amongst others. He's a match winner worth far more than averages.
@@ismarcus00500 43 against Australie and over 50 in the lat Ashes in 2023.
They should do the podcast every 10 days. Just enjoy to much to listen them.
Very interesting podcast most of their discussions are related to next year ashes and England team set up for that series, its as if they are fully confident about their performance against India next year and that ll help them in ashes.
Have a great Xmas and new 🎉year. Have loved the podcasts this year.
Why did u guys deleted thus podcast earlier ????
I had already watched it two days ago 😂😂😂😂
Interesting question was raised about why this team starts series well and then results tend to fade. There have been two instances in the sub-continent when the home side decided to change the pitches after losing the first Test (in Pakistan, playing a second match on the same pitch, before going to extraordinary lengths to produce a track that would spin at Rawalpindi where this never normally happens). This is executive counterplay, and if it hadn't at least partially succeeded even more heads would have rolled than was actually the case (in Pakistan, all the selectors were guillotined after the first Test). But in other series, after the opposition is taken by storm at first, it often then works them out, at least to some extent. There have been some series where the shock and awe have proven terminal for the other side, but not the best sides.
This is true at the individual level too, where it isn't rocket science for good class international bowlers to find their way through Crawley's defence, for instance. Opponents develop plans for it, unless exceptionally pig-headed. The frequency with which Crawley actually plays decisive innings (even innings which effectively set the tone for a match) is far too low to justify picking him even on a probabilistic basis. There are aggressive and powerful batsmen available with much better technique against the moving ball (Bethell is one, and Jamie Smith another, although the possibility of Smith opening is never mentioned).
Really dig these two. Can listen all day. Bazball is a shocker though.
I really wish they would be a little more old school sometimes. Test matches going to 5 days involving England, when was that last? If you were an administrator you may want to fill the stadium for 5 days not 3. My lad wants to see test match cricket, but we can only see 3 out of 5 days? That will put many people off cricket.
Nassir amd atherton are the best commontators in sport
Love these podcasts, well done all 👏
I’m no Luddite, and I realise the game has to evolve, but to play in the manner they played in the NZ 3rd test, was criminal. I take nothing away from the NZ bowling in saying this but I truly believe England were on the plane home at the start of the first session; they didn't give a damn about the result or breaking the wrong records. The ‘Balmy Army’ who sold the house and the wife and kids to get there, must at times ask themselves why they bother.
The game has changed and players mindset is entirely different to that of say, 10-15 years ago. Strange to think now, just how fascinating and gripping a final day draw could be. My beloved game, the game I started to follow in the mid-60s, is not the game now which I loved then.
Totally agree, Phil...
They won the series. Move on
Ben Stokes has to get back his flow when he is in form the rest of the team looks more confident a love to see when he plays his natural game which is to be aggressive
Also, is stokes fit enough for a 5 test series like India or Australia? Also, I disagree that England can't perform without stokes. That's not fair on the depth of seamers and several very good middle order batters. Stokes needs to get over his own 'im the main character of the story's narrative and give responsibility to others.
Hi both of u legend plz discuss melbourne & sydney test..I'll be waiting
Your teams goal is misplaced in my view - its to entartain as opposed to win - hence these big defeats..
Also did they actually say they are entertaining the public......or just entertaining themselves. Once it gets too grindy/ Not in their favour/ non-batter friendly then they are disinterested to the point of apathy.
Some swing or seam or a spin wicket and Bazball goes to the gutter. England is the first team who gets out of WTC race.
I wanted us to lose the toss because I knew Stokes would choose to bowl first and I knew it would be the wrong decision!
Why are captains of England the only people in the world who don't know that you should only bowl first if there's a clear and obvious reason for doing so?
Stokes said himself that it was a 50/50 call whether to bowl or bat, so he clearly didn't think the pitch and conditions were screaming "You must bowl first!".
People may think that you can't blame Stokes' decision to bowl for such a heavy loss but we would've been under less pressure and probably would've played better if Stokes had done the sensible thing and batted first.
I clearly have no way of knowing whether or not we would've won if we'd batted first but I'm sure the match would've been a lot closer if we had.
I watched half the video and could not find it yesterday. Now I see it again. What’s up with that?
Love listening to you both.. THE BEST.
humble request to do one such analysis on Indian team please.
got say the captaincy was his worst i,ve seen that second morning ,just poor.we could see there was no urgency in their play so they deserved what they got.
Carse's batting should carry Crawley's failure. Did Atherton really say that?
Crawley averaged 27 in Oz, 43 overall. Only 3 tests though. He had a purple patch in the home Ashes series, not likely to be repeated.
Marnus labuschange is the huge batsman of the era. Great batsman 🐐🐐🐐
As a fellow South African, I would agree, just wishing he was playing for the Proteas! Along with Devon Conway et al...
To be fair I thought Crawley looked plumb LBW in real time and it was a surprise seeing it as a marginal umpires call on DRS.
Crawley gave up batting quite a while ago, he is a specialist fielder.
Stokes averages 35 with the bat and 32 with the ball. Ordinary player who got lucky a couple of times and along with McCullum is a pretty good salesman
The loss to Pakistan and New Zealand in my view as the result of poor captaincy. Ben Stokes must be considered a serious risk to lead England in Australia. His personal contributions with bat and ball are well below an acceptable standard. Lets hope the process to find a replacement has started to find someone who can lead by example.
Don't forget the reckless and arrogant declaration on the first day of the Ashes 23. Cost them the game and the series. Fantastic really.
With Joe Root looking in ominous touch and Ollie Robinson swinging the willow at the other end, the score looked poised to head well north of 400.
Skipper Ben Stokes had other ideas as he waved them in and put an end to the first innings with the score at 8/393.
The declaration came after only 78 overs making it the earliest declaration in the first innings of an Ashes Test in history.
4. days later Captain Cum,mins hits the winning runs. Theres the series and English commentators never bring it up. If he was an Aussie or Indian the condemnation would have been savage and rightly so. But I suppose England were "saving cricket" or something.
Yeah, I agree, Roy...
He's a fine cricketer, but doesn't have the brains to be captain...
He should be that Freddie Flintoff character who comes in and wins games.
Not a captain who throws games away because "results don't matter" in order to "entertain". I'm not entertained when England get hammered!
We won the series in New Zealand
no, he is definitely a brilliant captain, what team do you support?
Bin Crawley, Stokes to open then keep Pope, Bethell and Smith
Can safely say that Athers could easily qualify as an Aussie. Good bloke, honest, not full of his own legend.
Nasser not so much, at all.
Not just from these two but from all the pundits I hear all this stuff about "workload" and injuries affecting the seamers. Back in the day I dont remember these ever being much of an issue. The irony is that supposedly modern fitness methods are far superior to the 60s and 70s.
There was nothing like the same amount of cricket ‘back in the day’.
@@Lebowski53 I dont think thats right, just different cricket,
No anchor man.two days left and thrown it Away.
They will never be classed as a great team.
Like aussie teams ov old dig in dig out a result regardless.
No judgment. No discipline.
Some good players.
Barely a good test team.
I’m fed up of watching this England team treat Test matches as a Sunday pub game. They shrug off losses as if they don’t matter. Stokes’s philosophy is great when they are winning but not to adapt style or strategy when the situation demands it, is so frustrating. Crawley seems to be undroppable, he plays great innings occasionally but that can be said of many mediocre county players.
Complaining about England winning 2-1 away? Really?
@ Won 9 and lost 8 with 1 draw. They are brilliant at times but seem unable to play any other way when needed. I would expect England to thrash West Indies and Sri Lanka at home, which they did.
@@ruesmale6940 lost 8 but no england team of any era would have done any better on the spinning decks in 6 of those 8
@ For me it’s how they crumble when in trouble and their only answer is to try and hit out, when playing smarter and waiting for the conditions to ease would give them a better chance. This side has suffered two of the highest losses by runs in English test history this year! I disagree that because it is a spinning pitch England are bound to lose. Pakistan produced spinning pitches but the England team refused to bat more carefully. Those players are better than that, refusing to change to the conditions does them a disservice.
three test championship in a row, yet they cant make it to the final 🤣🤣🤣🤣 and these guys want to make fun of us for losing two finals ?
When have they ever made fun of India? Don’t recall that one
Think pope would do well in the White ball squad and being dropped for tests especially with McCullum coming in
McCullum is 43 and a New Zealander to boot. he won't be coming in for Pope.
Surely the inconsistency is the obvious result of playing this style of cricket.Hugely entertaining but its not Test cricket as people of my age know it.I think we may win a couple of matches in Australia but will lose heavily in at least three.But let's be honest.....its fun😅😢
Yes u can't ride a motorbike every day at 250 kph . Ur bound to get accident.
@@jiteshkumar3774 Aye correct.....and you'd deserve it and all the grief associated with it.
Why no draws ? Bad wickets that’s why . Test cricket is becoming like 20/20. Bring back good wickets
The playing style nowadays makes the wicket totally irrelevant.
@ wickets are never irrelevant.
@@TrevorCrook-c1s Incorrect.
Are Nass & Ather going to talk about Ashwin 's retirement & his impact to the game ?
Was filmed before
31:24 you got battered in that test. India managed a draw😅
thanks to the rain
@20shourya True. But Nas will have to live further with that scar all alone.
Matt Henry: Gonna get you 6 for 6!
Z Crawley: Never! Not going to happen...
M H: Have another carrot...
Micheal Benstokes Atherton
Crawley with the Billionaire dad who's mates with Rob Key 😂
Poor decision to bowl first; poor team selection (wrong spinner); bad on second morning; criminal batting in both innings - load of crap! NZ were very good though.
Zak Crawley needs to be dropped to work on his game. His average is plummeting and his returns are poor. There’s loyalty and then there’s doing what’s right for both the player and the team as a whole
Why the re-upload?
Have they trimmed the video??
@@AMANGUPTA-wr6hh I think so? It was around 56mins
I was halfway through yesterday and it got deleted so I couldn't finish it
Absolute rubbish and rigorous captaincy not bowling spinner on Day 1 leads fo his injury 🩸
Hi
If you win 9 lost 8, I guess it is safe to say Bazball is not working very well.
Six of those loses were on tracks that spun massively , clearly England can not play on raging turners
You clearly didn't see the win/loss ratio before Bazball.
Better than winning 1 out of 17
Is this a repeat ?
Ashwin retirement?
was recorded before Ashwin's announcement
England are the new Pakistan. Sad thing is, some solutions are obvious. Pope and Crawley need dropping. Can't argue with that. Not even sure if stokes' place needs evaluating. He hasnt played a crucial innings with the bat in ages, his bowling is loose often going for 4-5 an over only occasionally picking up a wicket. Players who should keep their spot =duckett,root,brook,Smith, Atkinson, carse and possibly one from Bashir/leach. Smith should come back in as wk. Bethell? Must be a priority over pope. Woakes, stokes need to be up for consideration. Can stokes open instead of crawley? Stokes is a good captain.
We need a new cook ! This angry cricket is not going to do it in Australia! Series win so it's positive .. never would we get 600 runs but every batsmen should have been using this as test match practice!! Grinding a 50 out for your averages for your stats when you retire .. also show as a batmen to the public and selectors you have a larger game
Never compare England to Pakistan. Series win in new Zealand yet these pair can't help but be negative.
But they lost in pakistan.
@jiteshkumar3774 who said I was talking about cricket..
England odi team are gonna get destroyed in india . None of them can play spin. Bishnoi,varun chakravarthy and axar patel would dismantle it
Have you seen Duckett and Root play?
@@ruesmale6940we all saw root played in 2023WC in india.
@@ruesmale6940 yeah earlier this year, though root was Bumrah's bunny, Ashwin had a stranglehold on Duckett.
Sky sports is very weast because I could not join it 😂😂😂😂
End of crawley