I grew up in a JW family. I started questioning it early in my childhood, like I already knew that I should never get baptized and never wanted to knock on doors. It’s definitely high control, and if all of your friends and support system are in the religion, leaving it can be extremely hard because you will be shunned and find yourself completely lonely. They have a very tight grip on their followers who are constantly being emotionally manipulated through movies, videos, music and articles. I never openly expressed all of this to my friends and family and don’t think I ever will. I barely have any friends outside.
I think I may be on the black list with the JW's All I did was ask them in for an orgy .......... never seen JW's go away so fast. Hint, don't turn up when 5 guys are watching football and drinking beer.
I know there's someone out there watching this video and feeling that deep unsettling feeling about what they've been taught for the first time. For whatever it's worth, I see you. I know how painful that cognitive dissonance is. I know this is not easy. Take all the time you need, and be choosy who you talk to about your questions so that you stay housed and safe. You are a good person and I love you
As a former Jehovah’s Witness, I have got to say even though it’s sad to hear of the abuse, it is incredibly validating to hear more and more people recognize this organization for what it is, a very deceptive cult, they do their best to appear as just another faith, but they are truly a manipulative and abusive group, and I have lost my family because of it.
I don't like to attack anyone else's religion, but a fellow missionary was converted from Jehovah's Witnesses,. He told me how he was disowned from his entire family. During his mission, he was constantly harassed. Some of his family even moved states into his area so they could bother him in person. Eventually had to transfer missions.
You did the right thing. I walked away from religion to when I got deployed for 9/11 when I finally realized all thst fighting, religion is the basis for this war on terror
I once read a book by a woman who escaped Jehovas Witnesses. She called it the paradise for p*dophiles. She was abused by her father when she young. She went to the elders with it because that's what they're supposed to do. The elders asked her father if he had done it. He said no. Case closed. Clearly he hadn't done it because he wasn't allowed to lie in their cult. Therefore the conclusion was that the child was lying because surely an adult follow all the rules. She was also not allowed to go to the police with this because the elders took care of things there. That was the rule.
I was conflicted a lot about my homosexuality while being in the church but my time at church I saw how much people judged and didn't want me anyway even if they didn't know about my identity. Things got bad when I started questioning things (cause I was a strong devout christian like my family and unfortunately partook in some things that I shouldn't have, hateful anti-LGBT stuff included, and somehow I felt that that was wrong. GASP!!! How DARE I think that Christians were EVER wrong. I mean I could be wrong but I could never think THEY were wrong) cause I found out that I could actually think for myself and live my life. But I had been mercilessly judged my whole time there cause I was just never good enough in their eyes. Not making enough money, didn't go to the famous christian colleges they wanted me to go to, favored the others over me constantly, was bullied, hated (to the point I was told to unalive myself), and so much crap that shouldn't have happened in church. In 2020 when the shutdown happened NO ONE reached out to me and I had it. I live on my own and am a gay man, who still believes in God but am not involved in church activities anymore, I just go to service and that's it. That former church I went to...they STILL don't even realize that I left or haven't even reached out to me (except the three people who found out I was gay and berated me about it telling me how I was destroying myself and going to hell). I swear Christians can be some of the most hateful and judgmental people out there. The church I currently go to has a group of guys there that I see in the middle of the week for the last two years, they know all about me, and have treated me very lovingly and asked me to hang out with them and we've gone out and helped each other in crisis, etc. ALL the things my previous church couldn't do and the things I wish I could have had my whole life. I love my group of guys as we genuinely love each other and we're able to be completely real instead of living a facade of perfection. =)
the funny part is that the pope says lgbt people should be loved and respected. You dont have to accept or support their choice but either way they must be respected
I don't think my experience is cultish, but I'll share it anyway since it's always possible for me to be wrong about something. Plus, I can relate to Story 1 to an uncomfortable degree. A friend talked me into joining a church youth group when I was 12. There were game consoles, pool tables, socializing, free drinks, music, and lots of kids to mingle with who were from 6th grade all the way up to high school seniors. The whole thing was always fun and really cool until I saw the dark side of the church. My friend and I were in the same group by choice for a weekend sleepover/bible study thing during the summer. For reasons I've never figured out, we got pegged as being gay and were bullied by the other kids at the sleepover. We tried turning to the adults overseeing the sleepover but nothing was done to put an end to it. It got to the point it almost ended in me turning to violence to make the bullying stop. I've never been above throwing punches, tearing clothes, and ripping out hair to protect myself and those around me from harm. The end of my involvement with the youth group came about during a church weekend trip to Houston, Texas. The group booked rooms at a fancy hotel for the weekend. The youth group had even lined up tickets to a MLB game and the unrestricted all day passes for Six Flags. We were broken up into groups of 4 kids with 1 adult for supervision to keep things from getting out of hand. My friend and I ended up separated from one another. The stigma of people thinking I was gay was alive and well to the point I was threatened with physical harm if I tried to take a spot in one of the beds in the group's hotel room. The group supervisor saw it unfold and did nothing to help me. I wouldn't budge an inch and called their bluff, getting me a stern reprimand for "unChristian-like behavior". The compromise the supervisor tried to force me to take was sleeping on the floor with a pillow and no blanket in a cold af room. I pressed for getting a spot in the beds like everyone and was told that I'd be excluded from going Six Flags if I didn't stop being difficult about the "lack of available beds". There were three beds in the room, and they were big enough for two people on each bed. I was forced to sit alone at the baseball game as my group made more threats if I tried to sit anywhere near them. I tried to find any of the adults overseeing the trip. Once I did, I was chewed out by them out for leaving my group. So, I tried reaching out to the supervisors other groups. Being neglected and getting chewed out were the common responses I got until I gave up. At Six Flags, the group I was in did everything they could to chase me off and keep me from being able to follow after them. So, I wandered around and rode the rides alone for both days. It wasn't until near the end of the second day that one of my oldest sister's friends and her group found me. They took me under their wing for the rest of the trip after hearing how I had been treated. I've met some really crappy people as an adult, but that church's unending irrational hate boner is the worst homophobic behavior I have ever seen. I will never understand how someone can live with that much hatred in their heart and still think they're a good person, much less sane.
@@zackkiller1330 I’m going to be honest I don’t know, I started going to the park and found it was relaxing so I loose track of time and come home late and my mom started joking around that I was doing shady stuff. I also happen to know a lot of facts about the mafia and drugs….I think I’m just asking for it at this point 😂
I grew up in a Seventh Day Adventist family and I really stopped believing in religion when the old lady who taught Saturday school told me my brother wouldn't go to heaven because he wasn't baptized. My brother has died a year or two before. He was a week from his first birthday, and I just couldn't believe in a God that was so cruel. Plus my father used their doctrine and scripture to suit his needs and justify his abuse. If you look into the Seventh day Adventist religion it was literally sprung up from a doomsday cult and mostly involves the " Ellen White Prophecies" so.... but if you try to tell them that they get soooo angry and refuse to believe they're in a cult. I have found my own form of faith which works for me. It took me a long time to get there though
Even worse is when they know the name has always been The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, but then omit that name, call it "The Mormon Church" and claim we're not Christians.
@@MissAlissaxX Who's mad? The official name is everywhere, on every building, every publication. For someone to use the term "Mormon Church" means the person has no personal experience with the church and is only going by what they've been told, or knows the truth and is attempting to deceive. Either way, that person's viewpoint should be disregarded.
Going to start off by saying I'm not mad. I respect your view points. But please, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is not a cult. We are just like (almost) any other Christian church but just with different beliefs. I.e. Lutherans and Catholics have different beliefs. Catholics and Methodists have different beliefs. We are not a cult. Just wanted to explain this. Have a good day :)
I grew up being forced to go to a Christian Church, the original youth pastor was a nice guy but Christianity just wasn't my thing considering I'm Trans and Asexual among other things so I went to paganism and witchcraft in highschool and I have not turned back. Hilariously during Senior year my AP World History teacher outright made a joke about how the pagan in the room knows the Bible better than most Christians he's ever met (he was Catholic himself and he was really cool, even let me help with certain lessons because he knew I'm a massive history nerd).
Listening to story 4 made me think of how lucky I have been! As most Italians, I grew up in Catholicism, but my family was not very religious. However, I still took Religion in school and went to a Catholic youth organisation just because that's what seemed to be normal in a widely Catholic country. I remember we were told stories from the Bible and from Jesus's life, and we were taught Christian morals, but it was in a very child-appropriate way. I don't recall ever being scared or being told about hell. Of course, I knew what hell was, but I didn't see it as part of my religious beliefs, or anyway as something to worry about. Our religious education focused more on things like being nice to others, being generous, forgiving etc.. I believed that if I behaved like that I was being a good person, and if I didn't, it was always possible to ask for forgiveness and change my behaviour. I am very critical of religion and the Catholic Church in particular, and in my late tee teens I became an atheist, but I have to say that my personal experience as a child was not traumatising or negative. However, I know other people, especially older ones, had very different experiences with the Catholic Church, and I feel really sad for them.
I grew up catholic and forever whenever I needed help with a situation it felt like my prayers hit a brick wall. So I'd pray harder which helped nothing. It wasnt until i screamed out into what felt like a void "can ANYONE please help me with [situation]" where I'd be assisted. In 2020 where I found so much time on my hands I dug into why my prayers hit a wall I discovered I was Norse pagan and started practicing witchcraft. I'm much happier now, I'm much less alone and my prayers no longer feel like they're hitting a wall.
My mother, aunts, uncles, and grandparents grew up in the IBLP (think 19 kids and counting). One of their core values is discipline, which pretty much translates to, "spare the rod spoil the child." My grandfather was and is also a white supremacist, hates LGBT people, and anyone of a different religion. Said religious beliefs were passed down to me as a child. I began questioning things at around 11 when I met atheists in school and they weren't Satan worshipers. Then I realized I was trans and bisexual which was the final nail in the coffin.
I wasn't in a cult but I used to be a Christian (uniting church of Australia) and my mum a few months ago got ordained as a minister through there. Anyway, I never paid attention during church honestly the only thing I liked was singing, doing the little activity sheets the church printed out for the kids and just reading random books and keeping an eye on the younger children there and making sure they didn't get up to mischief (I ended up working in childcare so hey it helped me learn some skills). I started really questioning around when I was 11-12 years old and my dad always encouraged me to question everything and after he passed of esophageal cancer when I was 17 I questioned even more even meditating in church when it got boring. A person who went to my highschool (met them when I was 15) found out that their family was pagan and I wanted to learn as much as I could from them especially since I was always fascinated by other religions. When I ended up choosing a path of eclectic pagan witchcraft my mum was really shocked and got sent into greif a bit but she accepts me now as long as I don't use tarot cards in her presence and I don't use candles that smell too strong when she is at home which I can work with and we frequently have religious based discussions and have great admiration and acceptance towards eachother especially as I came out as bi and genderfluid (which she took way better than me telling her I didn't want to be Christian anymore)
My best friend from 8th grade through high school was a baptist, and I was catholic. Her mother hated & feared me because she didn’t understand my religion. I remember trying to explain it to her mom when her parents were driving me home from a church Halloween party when we were in middle school to no avail. I wasn’t allowed to spend the night at her house until our senior year, and she wasn’t allowed to spend the night at mine until then, either. But when her dad’s cancer was finally getting the worst of him, I had made some food that he was actually able to eat & enjoy, her mom actually allowed me to make more of it & bring it to him because it had been hard to get him to eat. I really appreciated that. And when he passed, I made more of that food because the family had told me that they had liked it, too. I was so glad that they had let me contribute during that time, and it meant the world to me in spite of her mom’s fears about my religious beliefs.
I was never in a cult but my grandfather talks like the priest of a cult so I understand what some of these people are talking about. I've gotten away from him and because I'm extremely petty I made my own "cult/religion" it's just complete bs and it makes every religious person super mad. I love my cult and I will stay with it forever
@@miramyth2971 it's called a cult but pretty much it's just a bi weekly gathering of me and my friends where we just do random stuff. But we do "worship" moths because moths are adorable
I was raised Mormon. In highschool (2008), the church was pushing Proposition 8 in California, which would ban same sex marriage. Like most in the church, I supported it. Though being a minor in Utah, I couldn't vote on it. I was very homophobic back then, thinking queer people were gross and just wanted attention. A year or two later, I found out my friend was a lesbian. I knew she wasn't Mormon, but she wasn't a bad person. I then had to ask myself a question I was never able to answer: what is a non religious reason to ban same sex marriage? I became less and less homophobic over the years, but didn't really question the church until 2016 when I started questioning my own gender. I had to stop attending because I knew how everyone else would think. I still believed for a time, but it was hard. Either god makes mistakes or he wants me to be trans. Regardless, the church was wrong in regards to LGBTQ people, so what else was wrong? Did some research and it's a lot
I don’t doubt God, I doubt the biases and interpretations of imperfect humans. Seriously, too many people are ignorant to the actual evil they’re committing against others, or use it as excuse to justify it.
Remember, some of the worst people on earth can be found in a church on a sunday morning. While the most helpful will be drinking beers on the block with tbeir friends talking smack
Not one of these stories featured cults. They were just "I got tired of my religion and didn't agree with them so I left" A cult will use threats and fear to maintain control over the subjects. There were no examples of that.
The story about the church not wanting LGBT+ in their church is baffling. I, as a Christian, would definitely want you there. This video also reminded me of this time at church, where they were going to have a service about how to still love people who are LGBT+. Well me, my sister, and my mom was talking about it in the car and I said that's easy it's called loving the person for who they are and not their sins. Both of them agreed.
Growing up in a Christian household, I definitely agree about the concept that the fear tactics they try to implement are just so manipulative and pure destructive to the psyche, especially if it isn't even fully developed at a child's age. I don't at all understand why this is still a prominent method of "saving souls". I still consider myself a Christian but with a MUCH less rigid thinking and way of life. These ruthless draconians who call themselves Christians or ministers/pastors are blindly forcing the exact opposite of the very scriptures they claim to be so well-versed in. One of those popular passages that I'm sure even the non-theistic have memorized is, "For God did not give you a spirit of fear, but a spirit of faith, hope, and love, but the greatest of all of these things, is love." One of the most common passages you learn in Sunday school but its not even sought after by those who consider themselves 'men of God'... smdh. Just another stereotype that will probably only continue to drive people away, as these fear mongers spew their corrosive, acidic, filth into the hearts and minds of the once genuinely curious to the now broken and existentially forever terrified that such a place and such an evil god could exist. Let me tell you, I'm a Christian, and hell does not exist. How can I be so certain? Because unconditional love is truly unconditional. The thought of hell would then just make it conditional, completely bringing the whole "religion" down onto its knees. It absolutely sickens me seeing so-called Godly people to be so hateful towards people and so cavalier with their fear tactics. Once in a while I'll come face to face with one. Almost every time they explode on me, because of my open mind. I tell them that if there is indeed a hell, it's only reserved for people like them. Those who plant a seed of fear into an otherwise innocent soul, knowing it's going to torment them their whole life, practically making their lives living hells.. no one deserves to feel that way. It truly just breaks my heart when I think about it. Edit: I didn't mean to sound preachy by any means. Whatever it is you believe, I'm glad you do, because it has made you who you are. The statement (before the edit) was more directed at those who are trapped and plagued by this soul-sucking, fear-driven excuse of totalitarianism that masquerades as a righteous path into a country club called heaven, "...but oop, you didn't make the cut because you forget to checkmark this box! Later, Hater!" *pulls hell laver*. Much love to all! Thanks for reading my ranty little novel lol, but I had a strong feeling that their might be some of those who really needed to see this, even if it's only one or 2 people. I hope I was able to show you an alternative way of thinking, instead of being overwhelmed with fear.
Atheist here. Happened early in life. Finished the story of Sodom and Gomorrah and my brain melted. Daughters got daddy drunk and SAd him to have babies?!!! Absolutely NOT. I don't make fun of ppl that believe, but I definitely don't want anything to do with religion. No thank you✌
Christian here. Pretty much all of us find that story crazy. There's a reason a lot of the stories in the Old Testament aren't meant to be dwelled upon. There's also a reason I don't consider Song of Solomon to actually be scripture and that it should just be taken out of the Bible all together.
@@aurorarowley7310 either book, to me is ridiculous. Besides, if god is the reason the 1st book was written, why would a 2nd "do over" book be done? Just doesn't make any sense.
About that person who said that Eternal Sensory Deprivation is their dream, they really don’t know what that would be like. This is gonna be a jarring example, but in SCP, there’s an entry titled SCP-2701, or True Solitary, which is a prison cell that, if someone is placed in it and have a deposit and withdrawal date written on an accompanying clipboard, will teleport the victim to a place of nothingness. And the worst part is that time in that place is slowed down drastically. Think of it like the Hyperbolic Time Chamber from DragonBall, with one day outside of the Chamber equaling 1 Year in it. The idea of being trapped in nothingness with no sort of sense really being usable would be true hell. And if that’s what he’ll is, I’d definitely say that it would be more terrifying than anything else I could imagine. However, I don’t think that’s what that OP’s dad was going for with his idea, so I still understand the difference in idea there.
I remember when I used to go to Sunday school and I never cared for it. Even as a dumb little kid I could tell that certain things just did not add up. But one incident sticks out in my mind. One of the instructors was basically telling me "if you don't behave the way we want you to you'll go to hell! Is that what you want?" And I said "i dont care" And the instructor either could accept or understand that I a little kid at the time wasn't easily manipulated or feightened by her threats. But then she said something like "Doesn't that scare you?" And i said "no, because my dad is scarier" and she pretty much just gave up and walked away. I was pretty jaded towards authority figures given I was constantly being yelled at or punished and couldn't seem to do anything right. But I think in away my dad raising me the way he did saved me. Because he taught me not to fear anything more than him.
I grew up Mormon and am genuinely shocked at some of the bs mormons believe. I don’t know if Canadian mormons are just built different but I’ve never even heard of some of these things. My family has always been very supportive of my lgbt-ness and some of these apparently common Mormon beliefs never came up in church. Looking back a lot of the things Joseph Smith supposedly went through seems pretty extreme (even for the times) and at least twice someone gave a talk mentioning gender identity that made me cry, but some of these stories are just crazy to me.
Honestly I used to be focused on church but I stopped 1 because I got into argument with a church teacher about how the universe happened And I’m sitting here like “the big bang” and she didn’t like that answer like seriously how can a powerful guy make a universe if there not even traces of human 2 stopped going because I work a lot and Sunday is the only day I don’t work and it gives me time to rest and catch up on my sleep Now a days churches are just homophobic which is something I can’t stand for and I was taught to love people as they are not hate em and that something I wouldn’t be able to live with just being taught to gate people who are different it isn’t right and plus half my friends are gay and they are the best friends I’ve ever met
I was born into and raised by the LDS/Mormon church. The last thing I went to I asked myself "now how could this be a cult?" Then remembered I'm Aro/Ace and can't "follow God's plan for me". I'm content with my life as it is without that blind faith in finding my "forever husband" and popping out kids (which I've discovered I can't tolerate the act of intercourse [on my own]). I haven't told anyone else but my oldest sister who says the church is a cult. And I dread the day I let slip I no longer go to church and am inactive to my parents and older (the middle) sister. They'll be so disappointed in me ...
I can't really say. I was Southern Baptist so yes cult, but I was extremely devout until I was 5 or 6. I don't remember the question I asked and the answer messed me up. It just kinda pushed everything out of place for me. There was a second in which a lot of thoughts came back to me in a new light. From that moment on I just went when I had to. To this day I volunteer for Sunday shifts because it was the best way to get out of going to church. I consider myself agnostic today because I believe there is something out there but I don't think anyone got it right. Well maybe the Greeks. They openly admit their Gods are assholes.
Anytime I hear about a Christian church. Being very mean or abusive to the LGqbt+ I get very confused. I grew up as a United Christian. I was taught to accept everyone who they. As long as they're not hurting themselves or others. We had rainbow monks we had rainbow days. Even the church I'm a part of now who is 90%. Seniors has a lesbian minister, and they still have rainbow months. And everyone is accepting for who they are. I personally have never seen a christian church. Sure I hear about it all the time but it's just like why
For me the closest has been when me and bunch of friends were addressed by some jehova's witness. Dude went over the entire spiel of lord and savior etc, heaven and hell when i spoke up suddenly. 'Going off what you described heaven sounds more torturous than this shit rock we're standing on now and hell sounds like a genuine improvement to me so i think i'll choose hell right here and now.' I was severely depressed at the time and long time already considering self-termination. That jehova rather quickly paced away in defeat. Friend group lookwd kinda shocked, but since we also were in the same group at a local mental health place we all had plenty of issues and several of us had chronic depressions.
Former Catholic here. I was never really into being religious, but I did honestly believe in God. I've been on a journey out of religion for a few years now.
I rejected Christianity at the age of six. I didn’t see any difference between the Bible stories and fairy tales. Just words to instill morals. I observed the hypocrisy and saw no role for women. My mom started us in a Lutheran church but got sucked way deep into various Christian cults when I was a teen. On her death bed when I was in my late twenties I asked my mom why she never acknowledged my accomplishments including at the time an MS in engineering and a nationally ranked cyclist. Her response? Because I didn’t except Jesus Christ as my one true savior, I was going to hell. Wow, mom. Is god really that petty and insecure?
I feel bad for the person from story 2. Yes the Star of David was put on the Tabernacle purposely. The poor sister missionary giving the tour wouldn't know the symbolism behind it because that isn't what she is there for. And the senior missionary clearly didn't know either. It represents the divine Israelite covenant, gathering of Israel, and affinity with Judaism. But I also guarantee that the op from story 2 would have still been the way he is even had one of those two known that.
I grew up Southern Baptist, and while church itself wasn't too bad, I never really liked the hours before the Sunday services. Get up on a weekend, dad's mad at stupid stuff, everyone else is just drowsy/not awake, which makes dad even more mad. I still attend services regularly (mainly to keep the peace with my parents, but also to keep track of what day it is) and I still believe in the basis of the Bible. I'm just not into the organized part of organized religion. Religious events that I've gone thru -Almost died in a church service. I don't know how I really feel about that, I constantly make jokes about it. My parents don't know about it. -One Sunday morning, a few months before I moved away. We were eating breakfast, my brother was silent becuse he doesn't do mornings, my dad was all bent out of shape because my brother wasnt as lively as usual (it's 7am, chill) and I was sitting there thinking 'is this what I want? If this is the standard of living in a faith based house, I don't want that.' That was a small little thing, but it stuck with me. Guess it was some of that "you don't live the way I do, which means your lifestyle is wrong" mentality that goes thru most Christians heads. -Moved. Stopped going to church mainly becuse I was busy with life. Didn't miss it. Yea, I don't really 'care' about organised religion anymore. Unfortunately I can't share those opinions, becuse im living with my parents again (thanks economy) and they flip out at my newfound taste for instant mashed potatoes, I'm not gonna tell them my new religious beliefs, or how I almost died in a church service, or the fact I might be ace.
13:25 In the new American standard bible, revised edition (NABRE) hell is alluded to in parables as “there will be wailing and grinding of teeth”. Most modern visions of hell came from saints who were taken to see it under the protection of an angel. I am fairly certain I have missed some times hell is talked about, but those are the main ones I remember.
What I like about Asatru is that I either go to Hel, which is just a normal afterlife, quite similar to heaven etc or Valhalla if I get killed in battle. There's no place of eternal suffering.
For folks seeking an abrahamic faith but wanting to avoid hate, might i suggest Unitarian Universalism? I’m not one myself, but there’s a church practicing that denomination on the way to my sister’s house that had a sign once that read “Jesus didn’t reject people. And neither do we.” I like those folks. (My other sister was also a minister of this denomination for a while, despite all three of us being Pagan! You can register to be one online!)
I actually managed to get my born again Xtian father to admit that, since all sin can be forgiven, so can being gay and that you can be gay and christian. It does mean having to wish to not be gay but still, since they believe all people sin and can't not sin then it's no worse than say, lusting after thy neighbors wife, you wish you didn't but you still do. That was a big step for him, and a good one since his brother is gay.
Yeah, you can be a Christian and be tempted to sin, and you can even be forgiven of sin you do commit, but it shouldn't be something you are okay with or, worse, are proud of.
Never in any kind of cultish religion but I was raised episcopal- it's a pretty chill branch of protestantism. Even still, I always thought of all the Bible stories as JUST stories, while it felt like everyone else was accepting them as fact. I decided to personally fully renounce christianity when as a pre-teen, a teenage boy who was in the youth group died by suicide and the pastor's sermon that weekend was about him and how he was a really good kid and will be missed but he won't go to heaven because he DID kill himself. With this kid's family and little brother in the room. And I was just like... that's so fucked up. He was a good person and just because of one decision to end his own mental suffering he can't achieve peace in death? I know a lot of people find comfort in religion which is great, but for me it's always been little things like this that turn me off of a lot of the major world religions.
I guess I got something similar to my I'm running on old stories here from my father so please take everything with the grain of salt So for some backstory my family is jewish both sides So on my dad's side of the family his parents are both Holocaust survivors. We believe my aunt was born in the camps after the war. My father was born in Toronto, Ontario, Canada a few years after they arrived in Canada anyway. So my aunt she was what I heard from my father. A really sweet woman. Caring, responsible and all out. A really nice person. One day she met this guy, he was to my dad saying weird as s*** this guy would do weird stuff. Try to do shady things and on top of it he wasn't even jewish wasn't even religious. He would go to restaurants and have pork products and my aunt just went along with it. She just loved the man. Well fast forward. A few years they get married and instead of the guy accepting more traditional ways of believing in Judaism, So will my grandparents think he will be. You know being reform or conservative since they ate pork they didn't do traditional jewish stuff. So from what I heard he found out my aunt was a child of the Holocaust and well use that to his advantage and well got in with the orthodox crowd. (Trigger warning to people who are sensitive to mental health. If you want to continue reading, you have been warned) So for a while my aunt what I heard again for my father was changing. He found out the guy was forcing her not to take her medication which was for bipolar. She was stage 2 bipolar and well her supposed husband didn't support the idea of mental health and it really hurts me to hear that. So my father thought at the time that his now brother-in-law would at least try to control the number of kids they had. He was wrong. He had four boys and two girls. See the orthodox don't believe in birth control. They believe have a multiple branches of family which means there will be more of a legacy for them and on top of that they don't let the kids choose the path they want to go in their life. The parents decide everything even gets matchmade. Well, except one of my cousins they fought back against the whole matchmaking, one of my two female cousins. I think I lost track. I can continue on and on, but this is already pretty damn long as it is.
This is why I identify as Christian agnostic (a person who believes in scientific things like evolution but also believe in a higher power like God so I'm just not the religious type since I tend to balance both science and Bible because the ruins of mentioned cities have been unearthed) P.S. In my opinion, I think the best temple is within your own heart and, as long as what you believe in isn't harmful to others, I have nothing against them so, religious or not, just be good people in general and hope for a good afterlife
I have been to several different churches in my life and none of them people in them were really friendly. It was weird to me since God to me represents love, understanding, compassion, and acceptance. Everyone was just so closed off.
I was catholic, everyone was mean. I converted to Christianity. Everyone was much nicer. but becoming a witch and getting into a Coven I've had the best life ever.
I love my church family, but some of their personal beliefs that seeped into church doctrine were very disturbing. I've learned to keep my personal beliefs quiet to avoid drama.
I was super into church until the pastor said "theres so much bad things going on in the world. War, school shootings, and now the legalization of gay marriage." Im just like... did you really compare gay marriage to school shootings??? I never went back.
26:00 - that's why I'm a Catholic, because unlike any other religion, the Catholic Church has 2000 years worth of philosophers making perfectly logical points that completely destroy other religions' arguments. The only dogma you need to accept is that God is real. Having seen the degeneracy of those who reject the dogma, I voluntarily chose to accept it.
I don’t think it’s just brainwashing. I think it’s also terrorizing children from the worst quarter possible because it’s coming from their most trusted source, the people they’re supposed to be able to trust and the ones who brought them into the world and the ones who are charged with protecting them from harm and with loving them unconditionally. And by terrorizing them on such a basic level such as that is such a betrayal of their humanity and their duty as a parent and their own family that it’s staggering to me.
Faith shouldn't be based on a desire for an eternal reward or fear of eternal punishment. That's not really belief, that's just pascal's wager. If there is a God, I doubt they'd be thrilled with you hedging your bets, in fact, they'd likely tell you that it's empty faith. I left the church after stumbling upon pascal's wager, realizing how dumb it all was.
The only difference between a religion and a cult is whether or not the founder is still alive or not. Not saying that religions are bad, most teach good values to keep and almost all are fundamentally the same in their core teachings. It's just that when you dive into these subjects you really need to keep an open mind and know that no single individual or organization will have all the answers. And if they claim that they do it's either a sign of ignorant arrogance or that they most likely have ulterior motives.
It is sad that some people do not have the understanding of Jesus’s personality as you do. I am a maturing Christian and all I can say is that the sinful nature does not turn off when in church… You are right when you said that Jesus was welcoming and teaching by example. His own people conspired to kill him for excepting and helping people that the Jews viewed as “unclean”. For the people questioning Christianity, followers of Christ are also fallen and can make huge mistakes, especially when we try to define what is “Christian” with only our human minds and not by the Bible. If any of you all have been hurt by a person in church, I am terribly sorry, I wish I could meet all of you and give you a hug because I struggle with my sinful nature and a hug from Jesus, Familly, and Friends always comforts me. Also God bless you Mainly facts.
I really wish you'd use something other than games in the background. Even if it's just the text - the original text, not the error-ridden one you currently use. Alternately, you could greenscreen yourself into some vaguely relevant location - classroom, cult sacrifice, hospital, whatever fits the theme of the video.
I watched someone become Mormon because they wanted to sleep with an elder. She fell hard and fast for the religion even after she was no longer allowed to see the elder because of the rule to learn the faith from people of the same gender. She ended up marrying an elder, not the same one. Last I heard she has had children in the religion.
13:30 - the Catechism of the Catholic Church does say Hell is real and a place where bad people go to suffer. However, it also says only truly evil and abhorrent people go there. The rest, will at the very least get a chance to atone for their sins in Purgatory. And then, it will go into detail about why following God's path is a path of continuous improvement that will make your life better. Once you learn that, Hell doesn't feel so scary, because you're confident you won't go.
2:00 - and that's why the Catholic Church is impervious to this kind of cultish takeover, because your beliefs must always be in complete communion with the established tradition.
I personally am not Christian, and respect the religion, but it always annoys me how some try to force their beliefs on others. We all know about the door to door Christians that are "spreading the good news" but really are just trying to get more people into their church.
You hate to believe it, but a lot of (abrahamic/hierarchical) religions, if not all, are exclusive of women and queer people. The only way for our liberation is to separate ourselves from religion. It isn't good for us.
To anyone that sees this comment, I want to preface beforehand: I'm Christian, I support LGBTQ+ and in fact am a small part of the community, atheist + non-Christian does not = bad and the majority of Christians are manipulative and being manipulated to bully. If you're LGBTQ+ and Christian, you're supposed to be that way, it's not something you can control and it's a God given attribute. An unconditionally loving God wouldn't punish you for being the way He created you, please do your best to ignore the idiots that say you're not supposed to be here or you're wrong. To any atheist/non-Christian LGBTQ+, understandable, religious trauma is no joke, it's so difficult having a majority of a population telling you that you shouldn't exist as you are, and dem benches that try to give "conversion ""therapy"" or say you don't belong here, I completely get moving away from the religion because of those puppets. I don't wanna "convert" anybody. As said by Mr. MainlyFacts... himself? (I hope that's right) you should join a religion because it calls to you, not because someone sets you up for it, I just want to give my perception in case it can help anyone have a bigger/better understanding from a type of person they might not hear from a lot (aka LGBTQ+ supporting Christian). While I don't fully trust the current translation of the bible, it doesn't ruin my faith because translators can always sneak their own personal beliefs about what the system "should" be like. For me, I find it sad that people move away from Christianity because they don't believe certain things in the book, because science was also made up by people to make sense of the world around them without religion playing a part. Another thing is, we're not in the Old Testament anymore, Christians don't have to follow those rules because the New Testament changed everything. Additionally, human selfishness and desire for control could easily creep into translators to mess up some rules and add ones that don't exist. The bible is still being retranslated and the English version has come out many different times, and the capitalist society that we're in today (at least in America) is so rampant that it adds an extra level of distrust for me. But while I have all of these doubts about the way people interpret and try to change the religion's rules, it's just people messing it up, which is why I prefer to ignore those people and keep my faith strong. It's unfortunate that it seems a lot of people associate Christianity itself with a cult because it's these deranged manipulative "Christians" that use their religion to try to control other people that make it look bad. But I also have to admit that the way I was raised, I have a natural tendency to hope that people I meet are Christian, and I feel a separation when they're not, which is something I'm trying to get ahold of, being an atheist does not mean you're a bad person. While I haven't had trouble thinking this, it's hard for me to change the habit/reflex to dislike a part of someone just because they believe differently than me. I also have a tendency to want to be the most correct and I argue a lot, so that doesn't help... 😅 But for those that read all of this, if you're a homophobe, stop it, you're not being Christian or cool. Transphobe, stop it, you're just hurting people and also being not Christian. If you're any kind of sexual other than hetero or any kind of gender that's other than cis, I believe in you, you're how you're meant to be, whether you believe in a creator or not. You've had at least one difficulty with being different, whether it's the worry that you won't be accepted all the way up to being hurt and threatened for it. Lol, cliché, my heart goes out to you, you can make it! To cis and hetero who are also having difficulty, you also got this. Don't be a jerk, we're all suffering together, no need to make a war out of something that doesn't affect you. I hope whatever you're going through gets better or at least easier to handle. You haven't given up yet, now's not the time. To everyone going through hard times, don't quit when it's bad, you gotta wait till you get good to make up for all the crap you've been through, okay? I ran into a quote I think is perfect for this kind of conversation: "If you're going through hell, why would you want to stop in hell?" I don't remember who it was, but even if you don't believe in hell or heaven, you gotta have good stuff come your way eventually. Not sorry for the rant, I do it all the time. If you read it all, that meant that you wanted to, so have a good day whoever and whatever you are!
Watching all this, I'm further convinced creationism is the stupidest thing fundamentalists ever came up with. (I'm an episcopalian. We're normal. Our cult is fun. We like science
Everything! That my Uncle's and cousins religion. They are on letteral lockdown in Saturdays, they can't eat meat, or drink caffeine or alcohol or smoke or vape or have recreational drugs which might sound like a good thing but it is not. They have rules on what clothes you can and can't where, what movies and t.v shows you can and can't watch. And what board games and video games you can and can't play and what books you can and can't read. If that is not a cult I don't know what one is.
Not an Oh Crap moment but I was at church and heard from someone another pasture said homosexuals are sinners and that an abortion is a womens decision. WTF?! Btw, i am in support of transgenders and biasexuals.
Actually, nothingness is the legit biblically accurate version of Hell. To add to it, anyone is actually able to leave anytime they want, if the decide they want to go and be with God. There is no condemnation, and The Devil isn't even gatekeeping, as he legit doesn't care at all about you, and the only thing that matters to him is that you don't give yourself over to God.
Story #2 the poster either had extremely incompetent guides (lacking the knowledge of an average member) or is just making stuff up. It's common knowledge that Christianity was a fulfillment of the Hebrew religion. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints believes the Old and New Testament are true, therefore the Star of David is a historical symbol that has a place on our temples. For any member of the church, let alone a tour guide, to be unaware of the origins and symbology of the Star of David is not a believable story. OP was just making up stories to slander members of an organized religion.
I detest how some denominations complicate Christianity. The only requirement for being a Christian is believing Jesus died for our sins. Full stop. Everything else is window dressing. I loathe how bigots pervert my religion into a weapon of hate.
I brought that up to people who have accused me of not being a Christian. Their response was that I didn't believe in Christ "the correct way". When pressed, they explained that the correct way is to believe that Christ is the Father, The Father is the Holy Ghost, the Holy Ghost is the Father, the Father is Christ, Red is blue, blue is black, black is white, and they're all yellow! Believing that they are individuals apparently means I'm not really a Christian.
Why are so many religions like "If you don't practice our religion you'll be Punished...." It makes you all look like you're Afraid of Not Worshipping, and that's way too much fear for my liking, Ill just be a good person because I'm a good person.... Not that I don't believe their deity exists, I do, I'm an Omnist, just that I'm not gonna worship... If a Powerful Being out there feels disrespected that I'm not worshipping them, let them come to me about it.
My faith doesn't teach "punishment", but rather the promise to dwell with God and Jesus Christ for eternity. An individual has the choice to follow commandments and become more like Jesus Christ, or to reject them and be separated. Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ exist in a state of perfect happiness, and want nothing else than for us to be as happy as them.
What a shocker... a gay man talking bad about religion.... (not religious but also not going to just eat up whatever a person who just feels attacked simply for being attracted to the same sex) super eye roll*** 🙄
I grew up in a JW family. I started questioning it early in my childhood, like I already knew that I should never get baptized and never wanted to knock on doors. It’s definitely high control, and if all of your friends and support system are in the religion, leaving it can be extremely hard because you will be shunned and find yourself completely lonely. They have a very tight grip on their followers who are constantly being emotionally manipulated through movies, videos, music and articles. I never openly expressed all of this to my friends and family and don’t think I ever will. I barely have any friends outside.
I think I may be on the black list with the JW's
All I did was ask them in for an orgy .......... never seen JW's go away so fast. Hint, don't turn up when 5 guys are watching football and drinking beer.
I know there's someone out there watching this video and feeling that deep unsettling feeling about what they've been taught for the first time.
For whatever it's worth, I see you. I know how painful that cognitive dissonance is. I know this is not easy. Take all the time you need, and be choosy who you talk to about your questions so that you stay housed and safe. You are a good person and I love you
As a former Jehovah’s Witness, I have got to say even though it’s sad to hear of the abuse, it is incredibly validating to hear more and more people recognize this organization for what it is, a very deceptive cult, they do their best to appear as just another faith, but they are truly a manipulative and abusive group, and I have lost my family because of it.
I don't like to attack anyone else's religion, but a fellow missionary was converted from Jehovah's Witnesses,. He told me how he was disowned from his entire family. During his mission, he was constantly harassed. Some of his family even moved states into his area so they could bother him in person. Eventually had to transfer missions.
You did the right thing. I walked away from religion to when I got deployed for 9/11 when I finally realized all thst fighting, religion is the basis for this war on terror
I once read a book by a woman who escaped Jehovas Witnesses. She called it the paradise for p*dophiles. She was abused by her father when she young. She went to the elders with it because that's what they're supposed to do. The elders asked her father if he had done it. He said no. Case closed. Clearly he hadn't done it because he wasn't allowed to lie in their cult. Therefore the conclusion was that the child was lying because surely an adult follow all the rules. She was also not allowed to go to the police with this because the elders took care of things there. That was the rule.
I was conflicted a lot about my homosexuality while being in the church but my time at church I saw how much people judged and didn't want me anyway even if they didn't know about my identity. Things got bad when I started questioning things (cause I was a strong devout christian like my family and unfortunately partook in some things that I shouldn't have, hateful anti-LGBT stuff included, and somehow I felt that that was wrong. GASP!!! How DARE I think that Christians were EVER wrong. I mean I could be wrong but I could never think THEY were wrong) cause I found out that I could actually think for myself and live my life. But I had been mercilessly judged my whole time there cause I was just never good enough in their eyes. Not making enough money, didn't go to the famous christian colleges they wanted me to go to, favored the others over me constantly, was bullied, hated (to the point I was told to unalive myself), and so much crap that shouldn't have happened in church.
In 2020 when the shutdown happened NO ONE reached out to me and I had it. I live on my own and am a gay man, who still believes in God but am not involved in church activities anymore, I just go to service and that's it. That former church I went to...they STILL don't even realize that I left or haven't even reached out to me (except the three people who found out I was gay and berated me about it telling me how I was destroying myself and going to hell). I swear Christians can be some of the most hateful and judgmental people out there.
The church I currently go to has a group of guys there that I see in the middle of the week for the last two years, they know all about me, and have treated me very lovingly and asked me to hang out with them and we've gone out and helped each other in crisis, etc. ALL the things my previous church couldn't do and the things I wish I could have had my whole life. I love my group of guys as we genuinely love each other and we're able to be completely real instead of living a facade of perfection. =)
the funny part is that the pope says lgbt people should be loved and respected. You dont have to accept or support their choice but either way they must be respected
@@neptuneful8 Evangelical Christians have nothing to do with the pope or Catholicism.
I don't think my experience is cultish, but I'll share it anyway since it's always possible for me to be wrong about something. Plus, I can relate to Story 1 to an uncomfortable degree. A friend talked me into joining a church youth group when I was 12. There were game consoles, pool tables, socializing, free drinks, music, and lots of kids to mingle with who were from 6th grade all the way up to high school seniors. The whole thing was always fun and really cool until I saw the dark side of the church.
My friend and I were in the same group by choice for a weekend sleepover/bible study thing during the summer. For reasons I've never figured out, we got pegged as being gay and were bullied by the other kids at the sleepover. We tried turning to the adults overseeing the sleepover but nothing was done to put an end to it. It got to the point it almost ended in me turning to violence to make the bullying stop. I've never been above throwing punches, tearing clothes, and ripping out hair to protect myself and those around me from harm.
The end of my involvement with the youth group came about during a church weekend trip to Houston, Texas. The group booked rooms at a fancy hotel for the weekend. The youth group had even lined up tickets to a MLB game and the unrestricted all day passes for Six Flags. We were broken up into groups of 4 kids with 1 adult for supervision to keep things from getting out of hand. My friend and I ended up separated from one another.
The stigma of people thinking I was gay was alive and well to the point I was threatened with physical harm if I tried to take a spot in one of the beds in the group's hotel room. The group supervisor saw it unfold and did nothing to help me. I wouldn't budge an inch and called their bluff, getting me a stern reprimand for "unChristian-like behavior". The compromise the supervisor tried to force me to take was sleeping on the floor with a pillow and no blanket in a cold af room. I pressed for getting a spot in the beds like everyone and was told that I'd be excluded from going Six Flags if I didn't stop being difficult about the "lack of available beds". There were three beds in the room, and they were big enough for two people on each bed.
I was forced to sit alone at the baseball game as my group made more threats if I tried to sit anywhere near them. I tried to find any of the adults overseeing the trip. Once I did, I was chewed out by them out for leaving my group. So, I tried reaching out to the supervisors other groups. Being neglected and getting chewed out were the common responses I got until I gave up. At Six Flags, the group I was in did everything they could to chase me off and keep me from being able to follow after them. So, I wandered around and rode the rides alone for both days. It wasn't until near the end of the second day that one of my oldest sister's friends and her group found me. They took me under their wing for the rest of the trip after hearing how I had been treated.
I've met some really crappy people as an adult, but that church's unending irrational hate boner is the worst homophobic behavior I have ever seen. I will never understand how someone can live with that much hatred in their heart and still think they're a good person, much less sane.
So are you the Gay?
My family thinks I’m in a cult or the mafia, and when I go to the park to hang out they think I’m dealing drugs 🥲
Maybe their the real drug dealers ever thought of that
@@DJSound-wave ….you just opened a whole new world for me 😀
what did you do to make them think that
@@zackkiller1330 I’m going to be honest I don’t know, I started going to the park and found it was relaxing so I loose track of time and come home late and my mom started joking around that I was doing shady stuff. I also happen to know a lot of facts about the mafia and drugs….I think I’m just asking for it at this point 😂
@@Ghostie_studios 😂😂😂😂
I grew up in a Seventh Day Adventist family and I really stopped believing in religion when the old lady who taught Saturday school told me my brother wouldn't go to heaven because he wasn't baptized. My brother has died a year or two before. He was a week from his first birthday, and I just couldn't believe in a God that was so cruel. Plus my father used their doctrine and scripture to suit his needs and justify his abuse. If you look into the Seventh day Adventist religion it was literally sprung up from a doomsday cult and mostly involves the " Ellen White Prophecies" so.... but if you try to tell them that they get soooo angry and refuse to believe they're in a cult. I have found my own form of faith which works for me. It took me a long time to get there though
As a Mormon myself, it’s actually baffling how many of the faith are so ignorant of the world around us.
Even worse is when they know the name has always been The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, but then omit that name, call it "The Mormon Church" and claim we're not Christians.
@@GymbalLockgenerally people who aren’t involved in the religion/cult won’t know the terms y’all use, but go ahead and get mad. That’ll help.
@@MissAlissaxX Who's mad? The official name is everywhere, on every building, every publication. For someone to use the term "Mormon Church" means the person has no personal experience with the church and is only going by what they've been told, or knows the truth and is attempting to deceive. Either way, that person's viewpoint should be disregarded.
@GymbalLock you are mad obviously lol
Going to start off by saying I'm not mad. I respect your view points. But please, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is not a cult. We are just like (almost) any other Christian church but just with different beliefs. I.e. Lutherans and Catholics have different beliefs. Catholics and Methodists have different beliefs. We are not a cult. Just wanted to explain this. Have a good day :)
I grew up being forced to go to a Christian Church, the original youth pastor was a nice guy but Christianity just wasn't my thing considering I'm Trans and Asexual among other things so I went to paganism and witchcraft in highschool and I have not turned back.
Hilariously during Senior year my AP World History teacher outright made a joke about how the pagan in the room knows the Bible better than most Christians he's ever met (he was Catholic himself and he was really cool, even let me help with certain lessons because he knew I'm a massive history nerd).
As a pagan myself, yeah its always funny when my wife's Catholic friend comes over or runs her mouth on FB and i quote the bible better than her.
That’s because Christians need to make it look good, so cherry-pick parts. Others don’t care, and so will call it as it’s written
My dad used to be a Sunday school teacher, and he actually said that the devil knew the Bible more than the church members!
Listening to story 4 made me think of how lucky I have been! As most Italians, I grew up in Catholicism, but my family was not very religious. However, I still took Religion in school and went to a Catholic youth organisation just because that's what seemed to be normal in a widely Catholic country.
I remember we were told stories from the Bible and from Jesus's life, and we were taught Christian morals, but it was in a very child-appropriate way. I don't recall ever being scared or being told about hell. Of course, I knew what hell was, but I didn't see it as part of my religious beliefs, or anyway as something to worry about. Our religious education focused more on things like being nice to others, being generous, forgiving etc.. I believed that if I behaved like that I was being a good person, and if
I didn't, it was always possible to ask for forgiveness and change my behaviour.
I am very critical of religion and the Catholic Church in particular, and in my late tee
teens I became an atheist, but I have to say that my personal experience as a child was not traumatising or negative. However, I know other people, especially older ones, had very different experiences with the Catholic Church, and I feel really sad for them.
I grew up catholic and forever whenever I needed help with a situation it felt like my prayers hit a brick wall. So I'd pray harder which helped nothing. It wasnt until i screamed out into what felt like a void "can ANYONE please help me with [situation]" where I'd be assisted. In 2020 where I found so much time on my hands I dug into why my prayers hit a wall I discovered I was Norse pagan and started practicing witchcraft. I'm much happier now, I'm much less alone and my prayers no longer feel like they're hitting a wall.
My mother, aunts, uncles, and grandparents grew up in the IBLP (think 19 kids and counting). One of their core values is discipline, which pretty much translates to, "spare the rod spoil the child." My grandfather was and is also a white supremacist, hates LGBT people, and anyone of a different religion. Said religious beliefs were passed down to me as a child. I began questioning things at around 11 when I met atheists in school and they weren't Satan worshipers. Then I realized I was trans and bisexual which was the final nail in the coffin.
Leaving Eden podcast is an amazing podcast. It is about one of the hosts growing up in IFBC and leaving the cult. They have done episodes on IBLP.
I wasn't in a cult but I used to be a Christian (uniting church of Australia) and my mum a few months ago got ordained as a minister through there. Anyway, I never paid attention during church honestly the only thing I liked was singing, doing the little activity sheets the church printed out for the kids and just reading random books and keeping an eye on the younger children there and making sure they didn't get up to mischief (I ended up working in childcare so hey it helped me learn some skills). I started really questioning around when I was 11-12 years old and my dad always encouraged me to question everything and after he passed of esophageal cancer when I was 17 I questioned even more even meditating in church when it got boring. A person who went to my highschool (met them when I was 15) found out that their family was pagan and I wanted to learn as much as I could from them especially since I was always fascinated by other religions. When I ended up choosing a path of eclectic pagan witchcraft my mum was really shocked and got sent into greif a bit but she accepts me now as long as I don't use tarot cards in her presence and I don't use candles that smell too strong when she is at home which I can work with and we frequently have religious based discussions and have great admiration and acceptance towards eachother especially as I came out as bi and genderfluid (which she took way better than me telling her I didn't want to be Christian anymore)
The amount of evangelists in the comment makes me think they haven't had their oh crap moment yet
My best friend from 8th grade through high school was a baptist, and I was catholic. Her mother hated & feared me because she didn’t understand my religion. I remember trying to explain it to her mom when her parents were driving me home from a church Halloween party when we were in middle school to no avail. I wasn’t allowed to spend the night at her house until our senior year, and she wasn’t allowed to spend the night at mine until then, either. But when her dad’s cancer was finally getting the worst of him, I had made some food that he was actually able to eat & enjoy, her mom actually allowed me to make more of it & bring it to him because it had been hard to get him to eat. I really appreciated that. And when he passed, I made more of that food because the family had told me that they had liked it, too. I was so glad that they had let me contribute during that time, and it meant the world to me in spite of her mom’s fears about my religious beliefs.
I was never in a cult but my grandfather talks like the priest of a cult so I understand what some of these people are talking about. I've gotten away from him and because I'm extremely petty I made my own "cult/religion" it's just complete bs and it makes every religious person super mad. I love my cult and I will stay with it forever
Please tell me more about your cult. 👀
@@miramyth2971 it's called a cult but pretty much it's just a bi weekly gathering of me and my friends where we just do random stuff. But we do "worship" moths because moths are adorable
Dude, that makes exactly as much sense as......well, any religion.....
I especially like that it pisses off "religious" people. Nicely done 👍
@@spectraldragon09 Beautiful. I love this cult, All Hail The Moth. I hope you offer them cotton clothes or whatever it is they like to eat
@@spectraldragon09
*_HAIL MOTHRA!_* 🦋
(sorry, can't find a moth emoji 😟)
Hell yeah @mainlyfacts. Fellow Atheist here and I really appreciate how you found out you were one. Research is amazing.
Can you make one about kids born into a strict family whats the something you had to hide that you shouldn't have had to.
I was raised Mormon. In highschool (2008), the church was pushing Proposition 8 in California, which would ban same sex marriage. Like most in the church, I supported it. Though being a minor in Utah, I couldn't vote on it. I was very homophobic back then, thinking queer people were gross and just wanted attention. A year or two later, I found out my friend was a lesbian. I knew she wasn't Mormon, but she wasn't a bad person. I then had to ask myself a question I was never able to answer: what is a non religious reason to ban same sex marriage? I became less and less homophobic over the years, but didn't really question the church until 2016 when I started questioning my own gender. I had to stop attending because I knew how everyone else would think. I still believed for a time, but it was hard. Either god makes mistakes or he wants me to be trans. Regardless, the church was wrong in regards to LGBTQ people, so what else was wrong? Did some research and it's a lot
Here is how I explain it. If God did not believe in transpeople, then why are there other animals that can change their genders?
I don’t doubt God, I doubt the biases and interpretations of imperfect humans. Seriously, too many people are ignorant to the actual evil they’re committing against others, or use it as excuse to justify it.
I appreciate your realness :)
Remember, some of the worst people on earth can be found in a church on a sunday morning.
While the most helpful will be drinking beers on the block with tbeir friends talking smack
Not one of these stories featured cults. They were just "I got tired of my religion and didn't agree with them so I left"
A cult will use threats and fear to maintain control over the subjects. There were no examples of that.
The story about the church not wanting LGBT+ in their church is baffling. I, as a Christian, would definitely want you there.
This video also reminded me of this time at church, where they were going to have a service about how to still love people who are LGBT+. Well me, my sister, and my mom was talking about it in the car and I said that's easy it's called loving the person for who they are and not their sins. Both of them agreed.
Growing up in a Christian household, I definitely agree about the concept that the fear tactics they try to implement are just so manipulative and pure destructive to the psyche, especially if it isn't even fully developed at a child's age. I don't at all understand why this is still a prominent method of "saving souls". I still consider myself a Christian but with a MUCH less rigid thinking and way of life. These ruthless draconians who call themselves Christians or ministers/pastors are blindly forcing the exact opposite of the very scriptures they claim to be so well-versed in. One of those popular passages that I'm sure even the non-theistic have memorized is, "For God did not give you a spirit of fear, but a spirit of faith, hope, and love, but the greatest of all of these things, is love." One of the most common passages you learn in Sunday school but its not even sought after by those who consider themselves 'men of God'... smdh. Just another stereotype that will probably only continue to drive people away, as these fear mongers spew their corrosive, acidic, filth into the hearts and minds of the once genuinely curious to the now broken and existentially forever terrified that such a place and such an evil god could exist. Let me tell you, I'm a Christian, and hell does not exist. How can I be so certain? Because unconditional love is truly unconditional. The thought of hell would then just make it conditional, completely bringing the whole "religion" down onto its knees. It absolutely sickens me seeing so-called Godly people to be so hateful towards people and so cavalier with their fear tactics. Once in a while I'll come face to face with one. Almost every time they explode on me, because of my open mind. I tell them that if there is indeed a hell, it's only reserved for people like them. Those who plant a seed of fear into an otherwise innocent soul, knowing it's going to torment them their whole life, practically making their lives living hells.. no one deserves to feel that way. It truly just breaks my heart when I think about it.
Edit: I didn't mean to sound preachy by any means. Whatever it is you believe, I'm glad you do, because it has made you who you are. The statement (before the edit) was more directed at those who are trapped and plagued by this soul-sucking, fear-driven excuse of totalitarianism that masquerades as a righteous path into a country club called heaven, "...but oop, you didn't make the cut because you forget to checkmark this box! Later, Hater!" *pulls hell laver*. Much love to all! Thanks for reading my ranty little novel lol, but I had a strong feeling that their might be some of those who really needed to see this, even if it's only one or 2 people. I hope I was able to show you an alternative way of thinking, instead of being overwhelmed with fear.
Atheist here. Happened early in life. Finished the story of Sodom and Gomorrah and my brain melted. Daughters got daddy drunk and SAd him to have babies?!!! Absolutely NOT. I don't make fun of ppl that believe, but I definitely don't want anything to do with religion. No thank you✌
Christian here. Pretty much all of us find that story crazy. There's a reason a lot of the stories in the Old Testament aren't meant to be dwelled upon. There's also a reason I don't consider Song of Solomon to actually be scripture and that it should just be taken out of the Bible all together.
@@aurorarowley7310 either book, to me is ridiculous. Besides, if god is the reason the 1st book was written, why would a 2nd "do over" book be done? Just doesn't make any sense.
About that person who said that Eternal Sensory Deprivation is their dream, they really don’t know what that would be like.
This is gonna be a jarring example, but in SCP, there’s an entry titled SCP-2701, or True Solitary, which is a prison cell that, if someone is placed in it and have a deposit and withdrawal date written on an accompanying clipboard, will teleport the victim to a place of nothingness. And the worst part is that time in that place is slowed down drastically. Think of it like the Hyperbolic Time Chamber from DragonBall, with one day outside of the Chamber equaling 1 Year in it.
The idea of being trapped in nothingness with no sort of sense really being usable would be true hell. And if that’s what he’ll is, I’d definitely say that it would be more terrifying than anything else I could imagine.
However, I don’t think that’s what that OP’s dad was going for with his idea, so I still understand the difference in idea there.
Stop spreading our secrets!
I remember when I used to go to Sunday school and I never cared for it. Even as a dumb little kid I could tell that certain things just did not add up. But one incident sticks out in my mind. One of the instructors was basically telling me "if you don't behave the way we want you to you'll go to hell! Is that what you want?" And I said "i dont care"
And the instructor either could accept or understand that I a little kid at the time wasn't easily manipulated or feightened by her threats. But then she said something like "Doesn't that scare you?" And i said "no, because my dad is scarier" and she pretty much just gave up and walked away.
I was pretty jaded towards authority figures given I was constantly being yelled at or punished and couldn't seem to do anything right. But I think in away my dad raising me the way he did saved me. Because he taught me not to fear anything more than him.
That last one.... those parents belong in hell.
I grew up Mormon and am genuinely shocked at some of the bs mormons believe. I don’t know if Canadian mormons are just built different but I’ve never even heard of some of these things. My family has always been very supportive of my lgbt-ness and some of these apparently common Mormon beliefs never came up in church. Looking back a lot of the things Joseph Smith supposedly went through seems pretty extreme (even for the times) and at least twice someone gave a talk mentioning gender identity that made me cry, but some of these stories are just crazy to me.
Honestly I used to be focused on church but I stopped
1 because I got into argument with a church teacher about how the universe happened
And I’m sitting here like “the big bang” and she didn’t like that answer like seriously how can a powerful guy make a universe if there not even traces of human
2 stopped going because I work a lot and Sunday is the only day I don’t work and it gives me time to rest and catch up on my sleep
Now a days churches are just homophobic which is something I can’t stand for and I was taught to love people as they are not hate em and that something I wouldn’t be able to live with just being taught to gate people who are different it isn’t right and plus half my friends are gay and they are the best friends I’ve ever met
I was born into and raised by the LDS/Mormon church. The last thing I went to I asked myself "now how could this be a cult?"
Then remembered I'm Aro/Ace and can't "follow God's plan for me". I'm content with my life as it is without that blind faith in finding my "forever husband" and popping out kids (which I've discovered I can't tolerate the act of intercourse [on my own]).
I haven't told anyone else but my oldest sister who says the church is a cult. And I dread the day I let slip I no longer go to church and am inactive to my parents and older (the middle) sister. They'll be so disappointed in me ...
I can't really say. I was Southern Baptist so yes cult, but I was extremely devout until I was 5 or 6. I don't remember the question I asked and the answer messed me up. It just kinda pushed everything out of place for me. There was a second in which a lot of thoughts came back to me in a new light. From that moment on I just went when I had to. To this day I volunteer for Sunday shifts because it was the best way to get out of going to church. I consider myself agnostic today because I believe there is something out there but I don't think anyone got it right. Well maybe the Greeks. They openly admit their Gods are assholes.
Anytime I hear about a Christian church. Being very mean or abusive to the LGqbt+ I get very confused. I grew up as a United Christian. I was taught to accept everyone who they. As long as they're not hurting themselves or others. We had rainbow monks we had rainbow days. Even the church I'm a part of now who is 90%. Seniors has a lesbian minister, and they still have rainbow months. And everyone is accepting for who they are. I personally have never seen a christian church. Sure I hear about it all the time but it's just like why
This is why I’m a supporter of TST
For me the closest has been when me and bunch of friends were addressed by some jehova's witness. Dude went over the entire spiel of lord and savior etc, heaven and hell when i spoke up suddenly. 'Going off what you described heaven sounds more torturous than this shit rock we're standing on now and hell sounds like a genuine improvement to me so i think i'll choose hell right here and now.' I was severely depressed at the time and long time already considering self-termination. That jehova rather quickly paced away in defeat. Friend group lookwd kinda shocked, but since we also were in the same group at a local mental health place we all had plenty of issues and several of us had chronic depressions.
I’m not even depressed and I agree. Hell sounds way more fun than Heaven
Hope you are doing well, friend ❤
@@hpfan1516 luckily i am, that was about 12, 14 years ago.
Former Catholic here. I was never really into being religious, but I did honestly believe in God. I've been on a journey out of religion for a few years now.
I rejected Christianity at the age of six. I didn’t see any difference between the Bible stories and fairy tales. Just words to instill morals. I observed the hypocrisy and saw no role for women. My mom started us in a Lutheran church but got sucked way deep into various Christian cults when I was a teen. On her death bed when I was in my late twenties I asked my mom why she never acknowledged my accomplishments including at the time an MS in engineering and a nationally ranked cyclist. Her response? Because I didn’t except Jesus Christ as my one true savior, I was going to hell. Wow, mom. Is god really that petty and insecure?
You mean Christian cults such as Catholicism, Southern Baptists, Mormons, 7th Day Adventists, Jahovah's Witnesses, etc?
Ugh, most stories about Jehovah's Witnesses genuinely make me angry.
I feel bad for the person from story 2. Yes the Star of David was put on the Tabernacle purposely. The poor sister missionary giving the tour wouldn't know the symbolism behind it because that isn't what she is there for. And the senior missionary clearly didn't know either.
It represents the divine Israelite covenant, gathering of Israel, and affinity with Judaism.
But I also guarantee that the op from story 2 would have still been the way he is even had one of those two known that.
I grew up Southern Baptist, and while church itself wasn't too bad, I never really liked the hours before the Sunday services. Get up on a weekend, dad's mad at stupid stuff, everyone else is just drowsy/not awake, which makes dad even more mad.
I still attend services regularly (mainly to keep the peace with my parents, but also to keep track of what day it is) and I still believe in the basis of the Bible. I'm just not into the organized part of organized religion.
Religious events that I've gone thru
-Almost died in a church service. I don't know how I really feel about that, I constantly make jokes about it. My parents don't know about it.
-One Sunday morning, a few months before I moved away. We were eating breakfast, my brother was silent becuse he doesn't do mornings, my dad was all bent out of shape because my brother wasnt as lively as usual (it's 7am, chill) and I was sitting there thinking 'is this what I want? If this is the standard of living in a faith based house, I don't want that.' That was a small little thing, but it stuck with me. Guess it was some of that "you don't live the way I do, which means your lifestyle is wrong" mentality that goes thru most Christians heads.
-Moved. Stopped going to church mainly becuse I was busy with life. Didn't miss it.
Yea, I don't really 'care' about organised religion anymore. Unfortunately I can't share those opinions, becuse im living with my parents again (thanks economy) and they flip out at my newfound taste for instant mashed potatoes, I'm not gonna tell them my new religious beliefs, or how I almost died in a church service, or the fact I might be ace.
13:25 In the new American standard bible, revised edition (NABRE) hell is alluded to in parables as “there will be wailing and grinding of teeth”. Most modern visions of hell came from saints who were taken to see it under the protection of an angel. I am fairly certain I have missed some times hell is talked about, but those are the main ones I remember.
What I like about Asatru is that I either go to Hel, which is just a normal afterlife, quite similar to heaven etc or Valhalla if I get killed in battle. There's no place of eternal suffering.
My old school is a cult
What school was it?
@@davidharrison269 Exactly, I also request an explanation.
IM SORRY WHAT 💀
Could you please give us the full story?
@jenna_xoxo no
Regarding story 3 I have been to hell it's a small town in Michigan ( look it up )
Damn, I’ve never been this early.
In the words of John Mulaney, Christian churches love to include you as much as they love to exclude you
Story 5: I’ve felt that a lot too definitely
The last story, I am very sorry.
I have never been this early fr..
For folks seeking an abrahamic faith but wanting to avoid hate, might i suggest Unitarian Universalism? I’m not one myself, but there’s a church practicing that denomination on the way to my sister’s house that had a sign once that read “Jesus didn’t reject people. And neither do we.” I like those folks. (My other sister was also a minister of this denomination for a while, despite all three of us being Pagan! You can register to be one online!)
Half of these start out with “not a cult and not an oh crap moment but…” so what even is the point of having a prompt?
because at the end of the day all religions are cults the only difference is the tax exempt status
The last one 😢
I actually managed to get my born again Xtian father to admit that, since all sin can be forgiven, so can being gay and that you can be gay and christian. It does mean having to wish to not be gay but still, since they believe all people sin and can't not sin then it's no worse than say, lusting after thy neighbors wife, you wish you didn't but you still do. That was a big step for him, and a good one since his brother is gay.
Yeah, you can be a Christian and be tempted to sin, and you can even be forgiven of sin you do commit, but it shouldn't be something you are okay with or, worse, are proud of.
Never in any kind of cultish religion but I was raised episcopal- it's a pretty chill branch of protestantism. Even still, I always thought of all the Bible stories as JUST stories, while it felt like everyone else was accepting them as fact. I decided to personally fully renounce christianity when as a pre-teen, a teenage boy who was in the youth group died by suicide and the pastor's sermon that weekend was about him and how he was a really good kid and will be missed but he won't go to heaven because he DID kill himself. With this kid's family and little brother in the room. And I was just like... that's so fucked up. He was a good person and just because of one decision to end his own mental suffering he can't achieve peace in death? I know a lot of people find comfort in religion which is great, but for me it's always been little things like this that turn me off of a lot of the major world religions.
I guess I got something similar to my I'm running on old stories here from my father so please take everything with the grain of salt
So for some backstory my family is jewish both sides So on my dad's side of the family his parents are both Holocaust survivors. We believe my aunt was born in the camps after the war. My father was born in Toronto, Ontario, Canada a few years after they arrived in Canada anyway. So my aunt she was what I heard from my father. A really sweet woman. Caring, responsible and all out. A really nice person. One day she met this guy, he was to my dad saying weird as s*** this guy would do weird stuff. Try to do shady things and on top of it he wasn't even jewish wasn't even religious. He would go to restaurants and have pork products and my aunt just went along with it. She just loved the man. Well fast forward. A few years they get married and instead of the guy accepting more traditional ways of believing in Judaism, So will my grandparents think he will be. You know being reform or conservative since they ate pork they didn't do traditional jewish stuff. So from what I heard he found out my aunt was a child of the Holocaust and well use that to his advantage and well got in with the orthodox crowd. (Trigger warning to people who are sensitive to mental health. If you want to continue reading, you have been warned) So for a while my aunt what I heard again for my father was changing. He found out the guy was forcing her not to take her medication which was for bipolar. She was stage 2 bipolar and well her supposed husband didn't support the idea of mental health and it really hurts me to hear that. So my father thought at the time that his now brother-in-law would at least try to control the number of kids they had. He was wrong. He had four boys and two girls. See the orthodox don't believe in birth control. They believe have a multiple branches of family which means there will be more of a legacy for them and on top of that they don't let the kids choose the path they want to go in their life. The parents decide everything even gets matchmade. Well, except one of my cousins they fought back against the whole matchmaking, one of my two female cousins. I think I lost track. I can continue on and on, but this is already pretty damn long as it is.
evolution v creation same here that opened my eyes
This is why I identify as Christian agnostic (a person who believes in scientific things like evolution but also believe in a higher power like God so I'm just not the religious type since I tend to balance both science and Bible because the ruins of mentioned cities have been unearthed)
P.S. In my opinion, I think the best temple is within your own heart and, as long as what you believe in isn't harmful to others, I have nothing against them so, religious or not, just be good people in general and hope for a good afterlife
I have been to several different churches in my life and none of them people in them were really friendly. It was weird to me since God to me represents love, understanding, compassion, and acceptance. Everyone was just so closed off.
I was catholic, everyone was mean. I converted to Christianity. Everyone was much nicer. but becoming a witch and getting into a Coven I've had the best life ever.
The best thing was when the priest would forgo the homilie because it was too hot in the summer.
I love my church family, but some of their personal beliefs that seeped into church doctrine were very disturbing. I've learned to keep my personal beliefs quiet to avoid drama.
My father is in the shallow end of the Quiver Full/Dugger cult. Two of his three daughters (myself included) are queer feminists. Not fun.
I was super into church until the pastor said "theres so much bad things going on in the world. War, school shootings, and now the legalization of gay marriage." Im just like... did you really compare gay marriage to school shootings??? I never went back.
26:00 - that's why I'm a Catholic, because unlike any other religion, the Catholic Church has 2000 years worth of philosophers making perfectly logical points that completely destroy other religions' arguments. The only dogma you need to accept is that God is real. Having seen the degeneracy of those who reject the dogma, I voluntarily chose to accept it.
I don’t think it’s just brainwashing. I think it’s also terrorizing children from the worst quarter possible because it’s coming from their most trusted source, the people they’re supposed to be able to trust and the ones who brought them into the world and the ones who are charged with protecting them from harm and with loving them unconditionally. And by terrorizing them on such a basic level such as that is such a betrayal of their humanity and their duty as a parent and their own family that it’s staggering to me.
Faith shouldn't be based on a desire for an eternal reward or fear of eternal punishment. That's not really belief, that's just pascal's wager. If there is a God, I doubt they'd be thrilled with you hedging your bets, in fact, they'd likely tell you that it's empty faith. I left the church after stumbling upon pascal's wager, realizing how dumb it all was.
I'm so glad I've never been religious because I wouldn't want to deal with any of the crap that goes on.
The only difference between a religion and a cult is whether or not the founder is still alive or not. Not saying that religions are bad, most teach good values to keep and almost all are fundamentally the same in their core teachings. It's just that when you dive into these subjects you really need to keep an open mind and know that no single individual or organization will have all the answers. And if they claim that they do it's either a sign of ignorant arrogance or that they most likely have ulterior motives.
It is sad that some people do not have the understanding of Jesus’s personality as you do. I am a maturing Christian and all I can say is that the sinful nature does not turn off when in church… You are right when you said that Jesus was welcoming and teaching by example. His own people conspired to kill him for excepting and helping people that the Jews viewed as “unclean”. For the people questioning Christianity, followers of Christ are also fallen and can make huge mistakes, especially when we try to define what is “Christian” with only our human minds and not by the Bible. If any of you all have been hurt by a person in church, I am terribly sorry, I wish I could meet all of you and give you a hug because I struggle with my sinful nature and a hug from Jesus, Familly, and Friends always comforts me. Also God bless you Mainly facts.
He's an atheist (im pretty sure), but I'm sure he appreciates it
I really wish you'd use something other than games in the background. Even if it's just the text - the original text, not the error-ridden one you currently use.
Alternately, you could greenscreen yourself into some vaguely relevant location - classroom, cult sacrifice, hospital, whatever fits the theme of the video.
I watched someone become Mormon because they wanted to sleep with an elder. She fell hard and fast for the religion even after she was no longer allowed to see the elder because of the rule to learn the faith from people of the same gender. She ended up marrying an elder, not the same one. Last I heard she has had children in the religion.
13:30 - the Catechism of the Catholic Church does say Hell is real and a place where bad people go to suffer. However, it also says only truly evil and abhorrent people go there. The rest, will at the very least get a chance to atone for their sins in Purgatory. And then, it will go into detail about why following God's path is a path of continuous improvement that will make your life better. Once you learn that, Hell doesn't feel so scary, because you're confident you won't go.
2:00 - and that's why the Catholic Church is impervious to this kind of cultish takeover, because your beliefs must always be in complete communion with the established tradition.
No one expects the SPANISH INQUISITION
I believe in God, and we’ve had a disagreement so going to church is awkward
Ain’t no way, I went to Dry Gulch
I personally am not Christian, and respect the religion, but it always annoys me how some try to force their beliefs on others. We all know about the door to door Christians that are "spreading the good news" but really are just trying to get more people into their church.
Those people are actually Jahova's Wittnesses.
Raised Italian Catholic.
Me, 15, goes to confession. Priest: YOU DID WHAT??
And that was the end of that.
You hate to believe it, but a lot of (abrahamic/hierarchical) religions, if not all, are exclusive of women and queer people. The only way for our liberation is to separate ourselves from religion. It isn't good for us.
I know this because I was raised with religion.
spookie dookie.
This is why I am glad that we have a state religion in England, makes most people think of religion as dull and boring!
To anyone that sees this comment, I want to preface beforehand:
I'm Christian, I support LGBTQ+ and in fact am a small part of the community, atheist + non-Christian does not = bad and the majority of Christians are manipulative and being manipulated to bully.
If you're LGBTQ+ and Christian, you're supposed to be that way, it's not something you can control and it's a God given attribute. An unconditionally loving God wouldn't punish you for being the way He created you, please do your best to ignore the idiots that say you're not supposed to be here or you're wrong.
To any atheist/non-Christian LGBTQ+, understandable, religious trauma is no joke, it's so difficult having a majority of a population telling you that you shouldn't exist as you are, and dem benches that try to give "conversion ""therapy"" or say you don't belong here, I completely get moving away from the religion because of those puppets.
I don't wanna "convert" anybody. As said by Mr. MainlyFacts... himself? (I hope that's right) you should join a religion because it calls to you, not because someone sets you up for it, I just want to give my perception in case it can help anyone have a bigger/better understanding from a type of person they might not hear from a lot (aka LGBTQ+ supporting Christian).
While I don't fully trust the current translation of the bible, it doesn't ruin my faith because translators can always sneak their own personal beliefs about what the system "should" be like. For me, I find it sad that people move away from Christianity because they don't believe certain things in the book, because science was also made up by people to make sense of the world around them without religion playing a part. Another thing is, we're not in the Old Testament anymore, Christians don't have to follow those rules because the New Testament changed everything. Additionally, human selfishness and desire for control could easily creep into translators to mess up some rules and add ones that don't exist. The bible is still being retranslated and the English version has come out many different times, and the capitalist society that we're in today (at least in America) is so rampant that it adds an extra level of distrust for me. But while I have all of these doubts about the way people interpret and try to change the religion's rules, it's just people messing it up, which is why I prefer to ignore those people and keep my faith strong.
It's unfortunate that it seems a lot of people associate Christianity itself with a cult because it's these deranged manipulative "Christians" that use their religion to try to control other people that make it look bad. But I also have to admit that the way I was raised, I have a natural tendency to hope that people I meet are Christian, and I feel a separation when they're not, which is something I'm trying to get ahold of, being an atheist does not mean you're a bad person. While I haven't had trouble thinking this, it's hard for me to change the habit/reflex to dislike a part of someone just because they believe differently than me. I also have a tendency to want to be the most correct and I argue a lot, so that doesn't help... 😅
But for those that read all of this, if you're a homophobe, stop it, you're not being Christian or cool. Transphobe, stop it, you're just hurting people and also being not Christian.
If you're any kind of sexual other than hetero or any kind of gender that's other than cis, I believe in you, you're how you're meant to be, whether you believe in a creator or not. You've had at least one difficulty with being different, whether it's the worry that you won't be accepted all the way up to being hurt and threatened for it. Lol, cliché, my heart goes out to you, you can make it!
To cis and hetero who are also having difficulty, you also got this. Don't be a jerk, we're all suffering together, no need to make a war out of something that doesn't affect you. I hope whatever you're going through gets better or at least easier to handle. You haven't given up yet, now's not the time.
To everyone going through hard times, don't quit when it's bad, you gotta wait till you get good to make up for all the crap you've been through, okay?
I ran into a quote I think is perfect for this kind of conversation:
"If you're going through hell, why would you want to stop in hell?"
I don't remember who it was, but even if you don't believe in hell or heaven, you gotta have good stuff come your way eventually.
Not sorry for the rant, I do it all the time. If you read it all, that meant that you wanted to, so have a good day whoever and whatever you are!
Story 7: Xenu did nothing wrong.
Watching all this, I'm further convinced creationism is the stupidest thing fundamentalists ever came up with. (I'm an episcopalian. We're normal. Our cult is fun. We like science
I was born and raised in the Seventh Day Adventist Church, can anyone else in the comments beat that degree of a cult 😂😂😂
What happened to where you think the SDA church is a cult?
Everything! That my Uncle's and cousins religion. They are on letteral lockdown in Saturdays, they can't eat meat, or drink caffeine or alcohol or smoke or vape or have recreational drugs which might sound like a good thing but it is not. They have rules on what clothes you can and can't where, what movies and t.v shows you can and can't watch. And what board games and video games you can and can't play and what books you can and can't read. If that is not a cult I don't know what one is.
11:40 - o futébol é como uma religião ♥
Not an Oh Crap moment but I was at church and heard from someone another pasture said homosexuals are sinners and that an abortion is a womens decision. WTF?! Btw, i am in support of transgenders and biasexuals.
romans 1:26-28
Actually, nothingness is the legit biblically accurate version of Hell. To add to it, anyone is actually able to leave anytime they want, if the decide they want to go and be with God. There is no condemnation, and The Devil isn't even gatekeeping, as he legit doesn't care at all about you, and the only thing that matters to him is that you don't give yourself over to God.
Would u be willing to start time stamping ur stories?
Story #2 the poster either had extremely incompetent guides (lacking the knowledge of an average member) or is just making stuff up. It's common knowledge that Christianity was a fulfillment of the Hebrew religion. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints believes the Old and New Testament are true, therefore the Star of David is a historical symbol that has a place on our temples. For any member of the church, let alone a tour guide, to be unaware of the origins and symbology of the Star of David is not a believable story. OP was just making up stories to slander members of an organized religion.
I detest how some denominations complicate Christianity. The only requirement for being a Christian is believing Jesus died for our sins. Full stop. Everything else is window dressing.
I loathe how bigots pervert my religion into a weapon of hate.
I brought that up to people who have accused me of not being a Christian. Their response was that I didn't believe in Christ "the correct way". When pressed, they explained that the correct way is to believe that Christ is the Father, The Father is the Holy Ghost, the Holy Ghost is the Father, the Father is Christ, Red is blue, blue is black, black is white, and they're all yellow!
Believing that they are individuals apparently means I'm not really a Christian.
@@GymbalLock Some people are so staunchly entrenched in their own views that they have metaphysical blinders on. 😏
Why are so many religions like "If you don't practice our religion you'll be Punished...." It makes you all look like you're Afraid of Not Worshipping, and that's way too much fear for my liking, Ill just be a good person because I'm a good person.... Not that I don't believe their deity exists, I do, I'm an Omnist, just that I'm not gonna worship... If a Powerful Being out there feels disrespected that I'm not worshipping them, let them come to me about it.
My faith doesn't teach "punishment", but rather the promise to dwell with God and Jesus Christ for eternity. An individual has the choice to follow commandments and become more like Jesus Christ, or to reject them and be separated.
Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ exist in a state of perfect happiness, and want nothing else than for us to be as happy as them.
@@GymbalLock what denomination of Christianity are you? because that is the original interpretation before all the hell talk that crept into most
@@durk5331 I'm a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.
@@GymbalLock Ah You're Mormon
All religions are a form of cult. How cultish is up to each church and how much power you give them
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It’s sad how religious people that claim to be the most tolerant are the least….
What a shocker... a gay man talking bad about religion.... (not religious but also not going to just eat up whatever a person who just feels attacked simply for being attracted to the same sex) super eye roll*** 🙄
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