@@shitpostcentraI Free education in general would be awesome. Sometimes I can't wrap around the USA's population way of thinking, I can't see how free education and healthcare is not something they have or demand to their government, all the society would benefit from it.
A Finn here. To clear up any confusion: this is NOT how all our prisons work. We still have ”normal” prisons for dangerous criminals. This is an ”open” variant, that usually houses criminals with less severe convictions, and those that are finishing their sentences. Matti here has served many years in a normal prison, before being transferred to his current prison. Before that professionals have studied him completely to decide if he’s ready to rehabilitate into the society. I’d guess most murderers don’t pass that test. I’ve personally met Matti many times, you’d never know he’s a murderer. I thought he was a regular student, before one of my friends told me what he did. It’s weird to concider someone a nice guy, that I’ve always been happy to work with, and then find out they killed someone in the past. Well, better that he rehabilitates and hopefully makes something of himself, than have him spend the rest of his life in prison. Edit on 08/2022: Read the whole explanation before commenting. Matti’s prison time is coming to and end. That’s why he’s in the prison he is in: to rehabilitate to society, to make himself useful. I’ve gotten so many comments and messages about ”how is murder not a serious crime?” It is. And that’s why he has spent 10 years in a max security prison. Reading is really not that hard.
He seems normal because he may be a sociopath. Most Mentally disturbed humans that do sick crimes fit into everyday society like regular people but are capable of doing heinous things
I think a lot of people misunderstand that what makes it work isn't just the jail system. It is only one part of the system. Finland has only 3,000 inmates (which proportionally is like 1/10 of the US incarceration rate per capita) because before there are these kinds of prisons, there is a system that offers free university, college, or practical education; free mental health services and homeless prevention measures like state-owned housing; regular prisons to house dangerous inmates, all of these things lead into programs like this for them to function properly. Any social welfare system has to be comprehensive or it doesn't function. The same goes for healthcare or drug legalization. It has to be a complete plan, not just changing one rule, or nothing will change. Finland's government is also incredibly strong. If you ever hear their primeminister or president speak they actually sound like real people instead of actors. Their country isn't very big so they actually have to behave like a real human being instead of a lizard in a skinsuit.
@@beaglemanzzz I wouldn't call it a massive headstart, every country is homogenous baseline, yet we have arrived to where we are where some are dominating and others are not. I think the fact that Russia is a perpetual existential threat for Finland means they can't afford delusion or a lapse in judgement, which helps their decision making a lot. They are also a small country which helps keep their leaders accountable since generally the smaller the group, the better the management.
It also doesn't share the pigments, Sweden became the most dangerous country in the EU almost overnight. ITs insane the amount of lunatics here praising this nonsense.
I think the people in the comments need to understand that “open prisons” are an alternative. When you’ve shown that your trustworthy and willing to rehabilitate they will put you in the program
@@severusfloki5778 There's a very big reason to mention that, have you looked in the comments? The vast majority of them are quite blatantly persuaded that this is, somehow, the life of(probably) every single Finnish prisoner. I would state with a very high level of confidence, looking at all the comments, that 90%+ of the people viewing the video would be surprised at the 2nd sentence of the original commenter's comment. In fact, the reason I wrote this was because I did a little research after looking at this comment and found out it was mostly true(the comment, that is). I was highly doubtful after watching, however, that Finland could afford to do this for even 1/10 of the prisoners they contain, which is why after scrolling in the comments and reading this, it made me more confident in that train of thought, and like I mentioned before, I did just a little bit of research and found out it was true. Propaganda is everywhere, and you'd be surprised how much credulity the the average youtube watcher holds.
@Abdulkarim Elnaas What would the goal be? socialistn paradise clout really doesnt get you much as a nation except maybe more tourism? Finland is not really opening its borders for immigrations either and pretty sure this wouldn't effect trade. Yes, they didn't include things like the requirements to get in, but its a puff piece under 10 mins. Not a hard hitting deep dive into the merits or cons of the system. Why do you think its a deliberate ploy by finland instead of the more likely answer that the editor just didn't include a bunch of stuff from the interviews.
I remember I read a news story of a Finnish prison where the guard left his key behind and the prisoners found it. They didn't try to escape or cause a riot. They went into the kitchen and baked a cake
nah. move to Norway. You get like 12 years for murder and it’s the best prison system in the world. They shake your hand when you get there. You get a suite with your own bathroom. Your girlfriend or wife can visit you twice a week for conjugal visits.
Varg Vikernes spent years in a Norwegian prison, he didn't have the best experience. Norway is also a police state, complete control and they can take your children away for any made-up reason (I'm Swedish and leaving Norway this year).
But think for a second, why is that such an absurd thing - the only reason we deprive prisoners of rights etc. is because that’s what we’re taught to think like
Pasting this here for those who wonder about the sentence (from Redditor Doikor): ''One thing to understand here is that you don't start your sentence for a violent crime in a nice open prison. This guy has spent years in a closed one showing good conduct (no violence, no drugs, etc) to get to an open prison. The idea being that prisoners do the end part of their sentence in an open prison being taught how to live in the world (schooling, job skills, getting caught up on computers/internet, etc) Also another note is that as this guy said he was sentenced for murder. This means he is serving a life sentence (the only sentence for murder in Finland). In Finland that means the sentence has no end date but it can end if you are deemed to be rehabilitated with the average being around 14 years. Also after getting out of prison they will be on parole for the rest of their life with the smallest crimes sending them back into prison (only presidential pardon can get rid of that part)''
Not all of them do. These are lower level offenders. This extreme example of someone who took a life but lives in this kind of prison is an outlier. . They do have prisons of no return, it's just that they're less populated.
@@iche9373 if they do that, you sho8ldnt come at them for it. It's either ur telling them why they shouldn't or you just doing comment... Telling them does nothing but hurt them._.
Most people in the world can't comprehend this. In my country he will only plan his next killing. We have a lovely 80% return rate to prison. A murder sentence in my country can be as little as 15 years, so 8 to 10 on good behavior and you are back on the street killing again. We literally have guys that has been two prison three times for murder and did three different life sentences at different times and they still get out before they reach retirement age?
@@wlk2408 In my country we have nearly a 100% return to prison rate a murder sentence can be as little as 5 months so 8-10 weeks and your out, killing again. We legit have guys here who have been two prison 9 times and did 9 life sentences still out on the street
They are treated well. Which means that they will feel like valued parts of society that can have a normal life later. If prisoners are treated bad they can easily view themselves as victims of the systems and not reflect about their own wrongdoings.
@@derPetunientopf *ABSOLUTELY FACTS!* The *VERY MOMENT* a prisoner thinks they've been treated wrong, that's *ALL* they focus on!! They *NEVER* start learning from the *TRUE FACTS* of *WHY* they're locked up!! They're going to lay blame on *EVERYONE ELSE* but themselves!!!
I'm just wondering what would the loved ones of the people murdered by the criminals think when they see the murderer living a life of freedom,love and joy whereas their loved one is dead and rotting inside the coffin eaten by the maggots and insects ,with no hope or future.I would be furious
@@KirkHermary yes. Because normally that person has been repeatedly failed by the state apparatus that should have been educating, supporting and caring for them. Did you never wonder why countries with low levels of inequality and poverty, and good physical and mental healthcare, have lower crime rates? Obviously there's outlying cases, but you almost always see massive spikes in criminality when people are angry and resentful about their circumstances, and lack the resources to fix their situation by any other means or the education to understand why that's happening and who is ultimately at fault. The real world isn't like Hollywood.
@@KirkHermary yes. There's a reason crime, particularly violent crime, is much lower in countries that have better economic equality and higher levels of education. Sorry, but poverty is the leading cause of criminality. If you want to reduce crime, you need to reduce poverty, not buy a bunch of guns and hide behind them.
@peterclarke7006 law abiding Canadians don't have a bunch of guns. Only the police and criminals have them. Poverty has nothing to do with it. Not taking care of the mentally ill causes everything. Crime, poverty, violence, addiction, all due to mental health. It's hilarious that you think poverty and buying guns is the boogeyman though.
One thing to understand here is that you don't start your sentence from a violent crime in a nice open prison. This guy has spent years in a closed one showing good conduct (no violence, no drugs, etc) to get to an open prison. The idea being that prisoners do the end part of their sentence in an open prison being taught how to live in the world (schooling, job skills, getting caught up on computers/internet, etc) Also another note is that as this guy said he was sentenced for murder means he is serving a life sentence (the only sentence for murder in Finland). In Finland that means the sentence has no end date but it can end if you are deemed to be rehabilitated with the average being around 14 years. Also after getting out of prison they will be on parole for the rest of their life with the smallest crimes sending them back into prison (only presidential pardon can get rid of that part) Finland's system is obviously not perfect, with court giving short sentences in some occasions etc. but at least the crime rate is low.
@@thatneo4133 contribute to society lol. I love this utilitarian reasoning as if it was somehow self justified. What makes it obvious that his particular "contribution" is something the should be strived for? I mean, If the other guys here are correct, he killed for money. There aren't even the mental gymnastics that people normally try to pull about knowing the context of the murder. Is that it? Is that what you get for killing a person? A couple of years in prison and a new career lol?
@@shebaloso Not a couple of years. Probably 10 years in a normal prison and then a few years in a open one. If he killed for money then the victim was probably doing shady stuff too. Your own fault if you choose that life. Probably 60% of rappers talk about killing people and also many people lile rappers and listening to them. So have that.
But murder is sth that shld not go unpunished. You have taken the ability to experience life, with all its pain and joy, from someone and in the process have also hurt their family as they now grieve while also dimishing the safety the ppl in that nation once felt. So it is only right to either lock u up for life ( which would drain the nation's resources at the expense of a murderer ) or treat u the same way u hv treated ur victim. So when u look it this way, is it not better to give such ppl a death sentence. U must understand that this is not a matter of revenge but rather a means of way to bring justice for the victim, the family and the nation.
It’s changing the idea that instead of going to jail for punishment, you instead get rehabilitation. I am curious though of people who do commit murder. What to the victim’s families think.
@@joeheeheehoohoo6696 I wouldn't want it to happen again to someone elses family so yes, that doesn't mean I wouldn't hate the guy but what has happened can't be undone so it would be better to make sure it didn't happen again.
@@joeheeheehoohoo6696 pure pragmatism, do you want a person who has already killed someone to kill more or stop killing? one ends up with more dead people and one ends up with fewer, i think the system we have in the nordics is fantastic because as shown in the video, it works (most of the time)
My best firends borhter who is much older was in prison for 5 years from 2015 till 2020 I was super supprised by his stories of how confused he was when he got out. How fast the tech has evolved. How many new games came out. He is 30 now, and yet all of that is super supprising. He was in for organizing iligel tech imports, but he was cought with weed
@@ObesePuppies Well it at first glance, he doesn't look like he even killed someone not until the voice actor said he did. And I don't think he will do those kind of things anymore. Once someone was given another chance to change and be a better version of himself/herself, they will really change and reflect to all the bad things they did.
@@commentsthatwillannoyyou9873 I would want justice not vengeance. I do not want that killer to die or to be tortured, but to be in a prison for a very very long time or a life sentence. Violence does not fix anything or bring back anyone, its redundant and useless
tbh the murder could’ve been a really bad person ig that would’ve never been sentenced ig. ive dealt with my own family members genuinely trying to kill me but he seems chill
There are different types of murderer, the common are the one who got oppressed and the one who had no remorse who just do it for fun or being Told by a voice on their head. You don't want to meet the 2nd one
I feel that people living in Sweden they are very nice gentle and kind,, even I once chatted with a girl who was got kidnapped & forced to be a prostitute..... he still in prison but seem very nice with that small girl-----she also said that she very happy when she being a prostitute....hmmm
@@vamvavaa8905 to be honest i DONT know, we can never visit my grandmothers grave in safety. im not joking on this but we sadly have no proof, kinda like almost rivalries, but much more dangerous. they often harass us for like awhile looping around the graveyards site. i honestly don’t know, ive just always grown up with people trying to hurt me
@Jamie lost sole “you got to attack the problem not the person” perfectly said but such a hard concept that society and the gov won’t ever consider. Feelings of revenge and punishment overcomes people when angry.
It is crazy to think that a murderer who was sentenced to life in prison in Finland lives a more comfortable life and has more opportunities than an average worker in Brazil. I don't know how to feel about that...
@Zurk The man in the video committed murder and is living a better life than Some Americans will ever have. This just shows why Finland is the happiest country.
It's pretty common for people to learn English and have better grammar than a lot of native English speaking people and it's due to them learning English with very strict literary rules that they're not accustomed to and engraining that into their brain, while native English speakers don't typically learn those rules, they just talk the way they were raised to.
@@vrish1420 what they said makes sense. If I kill someone in self defense am I the bad guy? Was i always a killer? No, just one thing lead to another and now someone is without a pulse. You'd be surprised how many "murders" weren't in cold blood, but self defense or defending someone or something they care about...while they being completely "not mean" people. For example the poor Cuban man that killed 26 people driving a truck for the first time without his instructor....and on that terrible day brakes weren't working. 26 "murders". All because of brakes.
cuz sometimes people make mistakes or was not raised properly so i guess they may need a second chance, funny thing is even God would forgive murder easily as long as you ask for forgiveness so am not suprised
@@painfulrug16960 Yeah it adds up to a limit tho. You cannot forgive a serial killer or a idk baby...kidnapper...seller...that kills kittens and puppies for fun? You get the point, lets not forget the fact that a person actually died here.
What really baffles me is the fact that even though their prisons look like this but still there are so less crimes there😮. Meanwhile other countries have bad prison conditions still the crime rate is up
@po-tat-0 po-tat-0 USA can have it if there are enough people wanting it, that creates political pressure which makes it happen. The real issue is that people in USA are way too emotional, everything is always about hearts and minds, great feelings etc. =) Downside for this is that it makes people to lean more on the eye for an eye style of punishments, they can't think the matter practically.
I’m all for rehabilitation for those who deserve it . I would like to hear a credible argument on why a murderer deserves a 2nd chance. I would like to hear what the victims family thinks of the killers life in prison .
If you looked at the other comments here, you would know that the guy is finishing his sentence in an open prison because he spent of his time in a "regular" prison. He served his time, thats it.
@@adammasterx5854 served his time ? Hes still young and killed someone. What about the person who died? No one who kills should ever be let out into society
@@theprofessional155 You're thinking in terms of "retribution" but the this system is designed on a principle of efficiency and rehabilitation. Majority of murders are personal one-offs, with actually not a high chance of repeating. Usually killings in Finland happen under influence and in some kind of personal altercation, meaning high levels of alcohol and fighting (usually between two-men) that escalated to violence where one party lost their life. The idea is that if the killer has been psychologically assessed as being low-risk for repetitive behavior, and they are a working-age person, they can actually contribute to the society a lot more if they are educated and paying taxes, than they would sitting behind bars the rest of their life (which costs money for the rest of the citizens). So the logic is, that it serves society more to rehabilitate and get them back to being a contributor, instead of a net-drain. The data shows that the vast majority of people will not repeat the crimes after being released, so it's calculated as being more profitable to rehabilitate prisoners that are assessed to be low-risk.
@@letmetranslate4249 I’m almost thinking that this guy must have murdered for an understandable reason I.e. finding out a guy sexually assaulted your daughter or caught a man cheating on your longtime wife. Has to be a reason that he’s only serving 15 years, and that they still allow him to have some freedom.
@@letmetranslate4249 I’m sure there are high security prisons in Finland for extremely dangerous criminals. There’s no way every prisoner is allowed to stay at a place like this. Some will take that opportunity to escape.
@@jacobgabrieel6646 Thankfully Finland is more concerned with law and order than they are in people's feelings. It doesn't matter if justice is served, all that matters is whether it leads to a more peaceful society. Sure it's unfair that someone convicted of murder leads such an easy life when their victim's life is cut short, but life isn't fair and the average "justice" system is more about societies cohesion than actually serving justice to people. I'd rather live in a nation that errs on the side of leniency than one that uses prisoners for profit.
@@dewdew80 Um, if it's not fair than its not justice idiot! A murder should at least be sentenced to life. I'm sure society would be fine without such people And the "life isn't fair" argument is dumb in this case since it can be used the other way around
@@blainefiasco8225 my exact point is it's not justice. I'm saying our "justice" system supercedes justice. That in actuality it provides law and order.
@Platypus War is different,in war you are forced to kill. You can't defend your country or home with nice words. But killing in peace,killing innocent people come on that's a different story. What if someone came into your house and killed your family,would you still rehabilitate them and find a job for them?
the comment section is braindead, I wonder if they would say the same if someone they cared about was taken from them and then the murderer is rewarded like this
Man, I guess they're lucky to have figured it out. They don't have the roll over rate like other countries. Focus on reform rather than punishment. Actually help their people to achieve more. Man..... Seems horrible doesn't it.
One thing to remember here is that life for a Finnish prison inmate is comparatively much worse than for an average citizen in Finland. Everybody has universal health care and free school tuition through tax money so when you go to prison, you lose your reputation and have the crime in your record for good and it is much harder to gain employment after the sentence (even with a college degree).
Actaully to have a better life if he is a Finnish citizen they will get help. Emotional, money, any way. Example my brother lost hes home and hes job and he is depressed and they give him free medication, monthly money and last time my brother had to pay for hes monthly medication 0.25 cents. If he didnt get help the medication wouldve costed him about 30 euros
Morality is that you shouldn't treat anyone as they are treated in U.S.A. prisons. Also, you should give people a framework so they became a better version of themselves. Otherwise you just throwing a person in a hole and perpetuating their previous behaviours. Otherwise, what's the point of prison? Make a profit?
@@cliffgaither many. Because life outside prison is still better. You have to remember. No tuition fees, free health care, decent holiday pay. Sure taxes are high but more fins on average are in work. Less homelessness, less drug use.
@@TheWeepingDalek :: Of course you're absolutely right about Finnish Society ! I was subconsciously thinking of the brutality of U.S. prisons & how if the Finnish Model existed here, who would want to go home, especially since "home-life" here may not be so great. I completely forgot to take Finnish General Society into comparison to prison conditions _in Finland !_ In reality, honestly, what I have read about Finland, it is one of the most civilized & advanced Countries, so it is perfectly reasonable her prison system would be equally civilized & advanced. Now that I think about it ... the Finnish system could never be implemented in the U.S. The crimes here can be horrific & the public wants comprable punishment. Thanks for reminding me about one of the few countries that will be left on Earth, after the chaos of inhumanity !
We have regular prisons here too. Ironic that I'm finnish, but I like the prisons sentences in the US more. You can 12-17 years in prison for murder here in finland. That's not justice, more like injustice.
@@olliedwards8069 Yup, they'll reoffend and most prisons in the US aren't actually there to rehabilitate a person and make them into better citizens, it's usually the opposite.
@@themondayguy it depends on how the murder happened and what led the prisoner to commit the murder. what if somebody was harrasing you and going around telling people lies about you and you felt the only way to end the problem was to kill the person
@Brian Andersen yeah thats probably why dangerous third world countries have long sentences and the safest country in the world has short ones. Go figure.
@Brian Andersen I understand your sentiment, but I believe in rehabilitations over punishments. It’s more ethical (although debatable), productive, and beneficial to the community.
@Brian Andersen grow up, American still lives a hundred years in the past despite its wealth. You are human, much different and unique than an animal, yet you end up thinking like them. Justice is in rehabilitation, killing the criminal won't satisfy anyone or anything, maybe temporarily, but not forever. Also finland has a 33% reoffending rate compared to 60-80 in other countries (including America, which is supposed to be a first world country)
@@jacintofernandes2907 Finland is also a much smaller country, with one the whitest and most homogenous populations in the world. Hardly a fair comparison.
And that victim he just murdered em.. watch down from heaven at this murderer get a fake ass prison system.. without any punishment! Man.. victim ain’t gonna forgive him! Nope.. nope.. neither god or Jesus! 😕
@@g.c.t.fbennyf1wheels645 why does the murderer need any further punishment? his sin was him taking someone's life, his punishment is his stripped access from the rest of the world, and his cure is the rehabilitation he receives. the lord is a forgiving entity. if he wasn't, heaven would be empty.
@@Termsofseve Another insufferable liberal. You think you're being virtuous but you lack empathy for the victims of crimes. It's sad that you probably won't alter your worldview until you're a victim of crime.
@@razrv3lc It´s open prison, whether or not you will serve your sentence in an open prison is based on individual assessment. Most prisoners on good behaviour will be transferred though. Finland has 26 prisons and 11 of them are open prisons. However, even in closed traditional prisons you get to go on holidays in the outside world and live with your family. You have them a few times a year.
@@Наиля-о7к Countries from Northern Europe with their well-developed systems seem like such cool places to live, except for when they become too cool during the winter, or any other time for that matter...
@@gatocles99 Crime statistics are often better indicators of prevalence of law enforcement and willingness to report crime, than actual prevalence. More serious crimes are a better indicator, because they are less likely to go unreported. And the USA has 2-3x more murders per capita than Finland.
That man murdered three people and only did 10 years in prison for it. Imagine being a family member of one of the victims and seeing him out of the streets again so soon.
Most people will never be sent to jail even if they commit the most heinous crimes, like child molestation, rape, or aggravated assault. But if they do get a sentence, it will be very low. Also, when looking at Finnish sentences, you always have to keep in mind that our courts love giving all kinds of discounts. So if someone is sentenced to 2 years, it will actually be more like less than one. If a first-time murderer gets 10 years, it will be more like 5 before they're out. Youth discounts are also a thing, and there are all kinds of mitigating circumstances which result in a shorter actual serving time than what is nominally sentenced.
@@mateoito8266 you know what he meant, and if you want to get into specifics pretty sure they're referred to as the Americas when talking about the continent while America usually refers to the country
"This man is serving a life sentence for muder." Damn, this guy must be pretty intimidating. "I'm sorry, I'm a little body conscious as you can see, I've gained a few pounds." ...
@@adrianbayley6939 Don't get me wrong, I don't think he is the nicest guy and he is in there for a reason, but it's just funny that he's like that. This was just a fun comment, not like I actually wanna see this guy. No need to call me that..
This is stunning. To see how people in Finland are treated humanely, while in the US and many other places they are treated worse than animals. Who is more enlightened? Thank you, Finland.
@@_Targetedindividual - Granted. and Jesus said, let those without sin throw the first stone. That one must have gone way over your head, because you must feel so superior to those "criminals". Do you think you are not capable of such an act? Are you that pure, or that arrogant and deluded? Frankly. I used to think that way myself. Now I am no longer deluded that way.
@The Underdog Seeking revenge makes you just as bad as the offender, seeking rehabilitation can make everyone's lives better. That is the philosophy here
@@mechadonia What is better, throwing people into jail so you can pay for their living expenses by your own tax money, or training them to stop being criminals and work for their own bread. IMO the first one is by far worse, no matter what the history is. People can change, i don't know if it is due to more deep rooted christian values there or smthng, but i would like to think people are not defined entirely by their past/sins, but also by their motivation to seek a better future.
I think our society really just dehumanizes people who have made mistakes and sometimes yeah some people are truly evil, but most are just like us down on their luck or had made horrible decisions that they regret
There was stepfather who killed his stepchild with steam cleaner machine. They let him free because there was not enough proof was it intentional. Last year they didn't give prison sentence for murder because killer had "temporary mental disorder". I understand that it's good to give people a chance and let them back to normal life and society if they did some smaller crimes. But I don't understand why society is so soft on murderers. Finnish society is protecting more criminals than victims.
@@s5nse Actually the main problem with our (Finland) sentencing system is that it fails to recognize people who are a threat to society and should just be seperated from others. We have clearly ill people that have been sentenced in some cases three (3) times to a life sentence but since it's only 13 years actually, they get to wreak havoc quite a bit in their lifetime.
I recently read a thought that really made me think: all prisoners are someone's future next door neighbors. Do you want your next door neighbor to be an institutionalized, angry person with great connections to the criminal scene, or people who have had the opportunity to better themselves, live a life as close to a normal one as possible, and have access to mental health professionals if needed and a bright future ahead of them? Right. I'm a proud Finn!
@@cacamilis8477 Serious offenders such as murderers, pedophiles, rapists, armed robbers, drug dealers etc. What are the odds of a repeater like that being innocent despite clear evidence and their history of violence? There is no point in keeping them in the society, they only cause misery.
Imagine someone killing you mother, father, brother or sister and they live like this. I dont care what anyone says, this is not "progress" and this is certainly not justice.
It is progress. If through whatever rehabilitation methods they are using, they can find out why he murdered someone they can use that information to prevent it from happening again. If 3500 get sick, and they go to the hospital and they say "well what did you say?" "Boars head meat" they use that data to track how many people were infected, when it started, where they bought it, what products are effected and end the spread of illness. Many people in the US are dying or being hospitalized for fentanyl, so we know there is a significant issue regarding fentanyl and are making efforts to reduce it.
And a tricky question.. What should I do with you in job interview? Inmate: “You’re hired!” Boss: Yes! That’s right! And one more tricky question.. After I hired you and should I make you..? Inmate: Promote me as new boss replace you? Boss: Yes, Fantastic! 👏🏻
I was just thinking that ....go to Finland. End up in jail so I can restart better then the first round and get an education and not have to worry about bills, etc.
@phillycp3 No, colleges aren't liberal. It's the teachers who are liberal because liberals treat them better and put an emphasis on better education. The Earth is naturally liberal. Who's for conservation? Who's for free public college? Who's for forgiving student loans and teacher pensions? Of course the staff is gonna lean liberal.
So, I fly to Finland, kill someone, and get best free education/full accommodation on taxpayers' money.. CAN SANE PEOPLE REALISE HOW FUCKED UP THIS IS?!!!
@@machinegun2282 I mean you could do that but you'd have a better life during the 3 years you stayed there before committing the crime than afterwards. Keep in mind that life in prison is still a downgrade from the usual living standards in Finland In other words: Committing the crime wouldn't serve you anything and be quite useless at that point. Moving to Finland would be the way to go
I'm just struggling to wrap my mind around the fact a prison has a better education system than my actual high school.
Murderers have free and better education than people who have to take out a huge loan :D
@@shitpostcentraI University in Finland is completely free.
@@letsmakegadgets6899 I was talking about the USA
@@shitpostcentraI Free education in general would be awesome. Sometimes I can't wrap around the USA's population way of thinking, I can't see how free education and healthcare is not something they have or demand to their government, all the society would benefit from it.
@@apukihaedy2850 usa is braindead lol
For your crimes i shall sentence you to a two year course of JavaScript.
To be fair, that would be my personal hell
Yeah LOL
yea this is torture right here
And they say capital punishment is inhumane.
Anything but that! :(
A Finn here. To clear up any confusion: this is NOT how all our prisons work. We still have ”normal” prisons for dangerous criminals. This is an ”open” variant, that usually houses criminals with less severe convictions, and those that are finishing their sentences. Matti here has served many years in a normal prison, before being transferred to his current prison. Before that professionals have studied him completely to decide if he’s ready to rehabilitate into the society. I’d guess most murderers don’t pass that test.
I’ve personally met Matti many times, you’d never know he’s a murderer. I thought he was a regular student, before one of my friends told me what he did. It’s weird to concider someone a nice guy, that I’ve always been happy to work with, and then find out they killed someone in the past. Well, better that he rehabilitates and hopefully makes something of himself, than have him spend the rest of his life in prison.
Edit on 08/2022: Read the whole explanation before commenting. Matti’s prison time is coming to and end. That’s why he’s in the prison he is in: to rehabilitate to society, to make himself useful. I’ve gotten so many comments and messages about ”how is murder not a serious crime?” It is. And that’s why he has spent 10 years in a max security prison. Reading is really not that hard.
Why did he commit it though?
He seems normal because he may be a sociopath. Most Mentally disturbed humans that do sick crimes fit into everyday society like regular people but are capable of doing heinous things
Thank you for the extra information! This is very interesting! :)
@@nadjaart He did a contract kill for 35 000 euros. He is also a convicted child molester. It was all in the newspapers when it happened.
@@borelius omg… yeah i don’t think people like him should be let back in society that easily..
I think a lot of people misunderstand that what makes it work isn't just the jail system. It is only one part of the system. Finland has only 3,000 inmates (which proportionally is like 1/10 of the US incarceration rate per capita) because before there are these kinds of prisons, there is a system that offers free university, college, or practical education; free mental health services and homeless prevention measures like state-owned housing; regular prisons to house dangerous inmates, all of these things lead into programs like this for them to function properly. Any social welfare system has to be comprehensive or it doesn't function. The same goes for healthcare or drug legalization. It has to be a complete plan, not just changing one rule, or nothing will change.
Finland's government is also incredibly strong. If you ever hear their primeminister or president speak they actually sound like real people instead of actors. Their country isn't very big so they actually have to behave like a real human being instead of a lizard in a skinsuit.
Having a homogenous society is a massive head start as well
@@beaglemanzzz I wouldn't call it a massive headstart, every country is homogenous baseline, yet we have arrived to where we are where some are dominating and others are not. I think the fact that Russia is a perpetual existential threat for Finland means they can't afford delusion or a lapse in judgement, which helps their decision making a lot. They are also a small country which helps keep their leaders accountable since generally the smaller the group, the better the management.
It's ok but I don't think that would work here in the US where public spending is kind of a bad word
@@MrNommerz the only "perpetual existential threat", and to the entire planet not just Finland, is the WEF
It also doesn't share the pigments, Sweden became the most dangerous country in the EU almost overnight. ITs insane the amount of lunatics here praising this nonsense.
I think the people in the comments need to understand that “open prisons” are an alternative. When you’ve shown that your trustworthy and willing to rehabilitate they will put you in the program
The video is a propaganda piece. No mention of that of course.
@@severusfloki5778 It's a damn good one the statistics alone make me want to move to finland.
@@severusfloki5778 There's a very big reason to mention that, have you looked in the comments? The vast majority of them are quite blatantly persuaded that this is, somehow, the life of(probably) every single Finnish prisoner. I would state with a very high level of confidence, looking at all the comments, that 90%+ of the people viewing the video would be surprised at the 2nd sentence of the original commenter's comment. In fact, the reason I wrote this was because I did a little research after looking at this comment and found out it was mostly true(the comment, that is). I was highly doubtful after watching, however, that Finland could afford to do this for even 1/10 of the prisoners they contain, which is why after scrolling in the comments and reading this, it made me more confident in that train of thought, and like I mentioned before, I did just a little bit of research and found out it was true. Propaganda is everywhere, and you'd be surprised how much credulity the the average youtube watcher holds.
@@severusfloki5778 Propaganda piece how?
@Abdulkarim Elnaas What would the goal be? socialistn paradise clout really doesnt get you much as a nation except maybe more tourism? Finland is not really opening its borders for immigrations either and pretty sure this wouldn't effect trade. Yes, they didn't include things like the requirements to get in, but its a puff piece under 10 mins. Not a hard hitting deep dive into the merits or cons of the system. Why do you think its a deliberate ploy by finland instead of the more likely answer that the editor just didn't include a bunch of stuff from the interviews.
I remember I read a news story of a Finnish prison where the guard left his key behind and the prisoners found it. They didn't try to escape or cause a riot. They went into the kitchen and baked a cake
OH NOOO! NOT AGAIN 😱
What did they do with key?
Still pretty neat though
@@jj_luminous6111 they opened the cell doors and went to the kitchen to mkae a cake
@@antekknapek4635 ah that's cool
Correct, but it was in sweden
Being a prisoner in Finland is much better than living a normal life if 99 percent of other countries
we should move our prisoners there. Do a crime and u get free stuff
More like 40%
@Shima Akatsuki Yamamoto then be a Finland citizen
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Oh shut up you don't even are from latin america
As a criminal I'm seriously considering moving to Finland.
nah. move to Norway. You get like 12 years for murder and it’s the best prison system in the world. They shake your hand when you get there. You get a suite with your own bathroom. Your girlfriend or wife can visit you twice a week for conjugal visits.
@@Trashcanman135 Unbelievable
@@yingle6027
That's the Nordic model for you 😄
Don't. The reason why it's great is because people like you aren't there.
Varg Vikernes spent years in a Norwegian prison, he didn't have the best experience.
Norway is also a police state, complete control and they can take your children away for any made-up reason (I'm Swedish and leaving Norway this year).
“Only 1 in 3 prisoners in Finland are put back in prison.”
*Yeah probably since they missed being there.*
Good one
Lol that’s great
Probably they are poor, and they dont have a house!
they probably robbed 1 dollar from the nearest bank so they can go back to that prison
@@ivanaldorino lol someone did that he robbed a bank for a dollar for free food
Thief: *goes to prison for theft*
Also Thief: *gets Bachelors in Fine Arts*
He got sent to prison for stealing paintings
Imagine the prisoner showed such dedication in his courses just to get out and commit another murder for satisfaction
@@nuke8672 Numbers shows that it is less likely to happen compared to other countries' prison treatment.
@@nuke8672 With the fairly low recidivism rate in Finland, that's unlikely.
But think for a second, why is that such an absurd thing - the only reason we deprive prisoners of rights etc. is because that’s what we’re taught to think like
Pasting this here for those who wonder about the sentence (from Redditor Doikor):
''One thing to understand here is that you don't start your sentence for a violent crime in a nice open prison. This guy has spent years in a closed one showing good conduct (no violence, no drugs, etc) to get to an open prison. The idea being that prisoners do the end part of their sentence in an open prison being taught how to live in the world (schooling, job skills, getting caught up on computers/internet, etc)
Also another note is that as this guy said he was sentenced for murder. This means he is serving a life sentence (the only sentence for murder in Finland). In Finland that means the sentence has no end date but it can end if you are deemed to be rehabilitated with the average being around 14 years. Also after getting out of prison they will be on parole for the rest of their life with the smallest crimes sending them back into prison (only presidential pardon can get rid of that part)''
Thank you for adding this.
Thanks for adding that. That actually makes sense.
Thanks. That was actually a helpful comment.
That was really informative and a great comment thank you for the insight into this seemingly radical way of thinking
A much needed clarity
Gotta say, as a fin, it seems like our inmates have better living conditions than our military conscripts 🤣
yea its military bro
A thief was caught and sent to Finland's jail. He's learnt new skills and is no longer a thief. He's a hacker now.
It’s called job training!
Bussines is boomin'
Upgrades people! Upgrades!
@Gaius Baltar not at all
@Gaius Baltar in most cases the Finnish prison thing is far better than the American one... just saying
Prisoners in Finland have more future than graduates in my country.
Me2. For me it’s way worse. South Africa 🇿🇦
@@danielromeo99 South Africa sounds very sad.
Same
Lmao, Indonesia?
Not all of them do. These are lower level offenders. This extreme example of someone who took a life but lives in this kind of prison is an outlier. . They do have prisons of no return, it's just that they're less populated.
“I’m sorry I’m a bit body conscious, you see I’ve gained a few pounds”
*is in a better shape than I’ve been all my life*
The only sad thing about you is: You compare with other guys.
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@@iche9373 it’s a joke
Comparing with others is a joke
@@iche9373 if they do that, you sho8ldnt come at them for it. It's either ur telling them why they shouldn't or you just doing comment... Telling them does nothing but hurt them._.
Murderer: "You should give people a chance". This has to be the most ironic sentence ever.
How ?
@@lonelyberg1808 because they didnt give the dying person a chance, thats how.
@@fluffymandy you don't know that though. maybe he gave them 10, or 100, and then finally got fed up
@@MrClindberg not an escuse.
@@titandarknight2698 What if that person got shot and there was no chances to be given
*Inmate returns home*
Mother: Did you escape prison?
Inmate: Nah, it's the semester break
hahahahhahahahahha
ahahahha....
Lmao.
Hahahahahah
bruuuvvv ahhahahah
This man is going to start a business *while* in prison. As an American, my brain cannot comprehend that
Most people in the world can't comprehend this. In my country he will only plan his next killing. We have a lovely 80% return rate to prison. A murder sentence in my country can be as little as 15 years, so 8 to 10 on good behavior and you are back on the street killing again. We literally have guys that has been two prison three times for murder and did three different life sentences at different times and they still get out before they reach retirement age?
@@wlk2408 In my country we have nearly a 100% return to prison rate a murder sentence can be as little as 5 months so 8-10 weeks and your out, killing again. We legit have guys here who have been two prison 9 times and did 9 life sentences still out on the street
@@markymark1718 May I ask where y’all from? Cause 8-10 weeks of prison for murder is absurd lmao
@@carllawan8019 Lmaooo I was just trolling the first guy
@@markymark1718 smh had me believing a legit country did that 😂
These prisoners are living a better life than most people.
yeah maybe so but they are not free... they cant do and go anywhere at any time
True. Finnland has high living standarts. All about being born at the right place and right time...
They are treated well. Which means that they will feel like valued parts of society that can have a normal life later. If prisoners are treated bad they can easily view themselves as victims of the systems and not reflect about their own wrongdoings.
@@derPetunientopf *ABSOLUTELY FACTS!* The *VERY MOMENT* a prisoner thinks they've been treated wrong, that's *ALL* they focus on!! They *NEVER* start learning from the *TRUE FACTS* of *WHY* they're locked up!! They're going to lay blame on *EVERYONE ELSE* but themselves!!!
I'm just wondering what would the loved ones of the people murdered by the criminals think when they see the murderer living a life of freedom,love and joy whereas their loved one is dead and rotting inside the coffin eaten by the maggots and insects ,with no hope or future.I would be furious
Basically, it's accepting that, except in certain situations, crime is a societal failure.
Someone forever sleeps everyone you love and you'll just blame it on society?
@@KirkHermary yes. Because normally that person has been repeatedly failed by the state apparatus that should have been educating, supporting and caring for them.
Did you never wonder why countries with low levels of inequality and poverty, and good physical and mental healthcare, have lower crime rates?
Obviously there's outlying cases, but you almost always see massive spikes in criminality when people are angry and resentful about their circumstances, and lack the resources to fix their situation by any other means or the education to understand why that's happening and who is ultimately at fault.
The real world isn't like Hollywood.
@@KirkHermary yes.
There's a reason crime, particularly violent crime, is much lower in countries that have better economic equality and higher levels of education.
Sorry, but poverty is the leading cause of criminality. If you want to reduce crime, you need to reduce poverty, not buy a bunch of guns and hide behind them.
@peterclarke7006 law abiding Canadians don't have a bunch of guns. Only the police and criminals have them.
Poverty has nothing to do with it. Not taking care of the mentally ill causes everything. Crime, poverty, violence, addiction, all due to mental health. It's hilarious that you think poverty and buying guns is the boogeyman though.
One thing to understand here is that you don't start your sentence from a violent crime in a nice open prison. This guy has spent years in a closed one showing good conduct (no violence, no drugs, etc) to get to an open prison. The idea being that prisoners do the end part of their sentence in an open prison being taught how to live in the world (schooling, job skills, getting caught up on computers/internet, etc)
Also another note is that as this guy said he was sentenced for murder means he is serving a life sentence (the only sentence for murder in Finland). In Finland that means the sentence has no end date but it can end if you are deemed to be rehabilitated with the average being around 14 years. Also after getting out of prison they will be on parole for the rest of their life with the smallest crimes sending them back into prison (only presidential pardon can get rid of that part)
Finland's system is obviously not perfect, with court giving short sentences in some occasions etc. but at least the crime rate is low.
wow thanks for the info
Still pretty gross
@@kohjiandriani3607 It still works. No point to take another life when they can still contribute to society.
@@thatneo4133 contribute to society lol. I love this utilitarian reasoning as if it was somehow self justified. What makes it obvious that his particular "contribution" is something the should be strived for? I mean, If the other guys here are correct, he killed for money. There aren't even the mental gymnastics that people normally try to pull about knowing the context of the murder. Is that it? Is that what you get for killing a person? A couple of years in prison and a new career lol?
@@shebaloso Not a couple of years. Probably 10 years in a normal prison and then a few years in a open one. If he killed for money then the victim was probably doing shady stuff too. Your own fault if you choose that life. Probably 60% of rappers talk about killing people and also many people lile rappers and listening to them. So have that.
bro Finland really took "You can't expect a man to change, if you don't give him a chance too." ta heart its pretty cool
It also works.
he didn’t give the person he murdered a future of change
@@derekzhang4364 Revenge is not how government should work.
But murder is sth that shld not go unpunished. You have taken the ability to experience life, with all its pain and joy, from someone and in the process have also hurt their family as they now grieve while also dimishing the safety the ppl in that nation once felt. So it is only right to either lock u up for life ( which would drain the nation's resources at the expense of a murderer ) or treat u the same way u hv treated ur victim. So when u look it this way, is it not better to give such ppl a death sentence. U must understand that this is not a matter of revenge but rather a means of way to bring justice for the victim, the family and the nation.
@Grant You might have some problems.
They dont punish him. They protect him from himself, they give his life a meaning so that he wants to be a good guy
exactly... I really love this idea and obviously seems to work not only in theory
It’s changing the idea that instead of going to jail for punishment, you instead get rehabilitation. I am curious though of people who do commit murder. What to the victim’s families think.
What about the person he killed, imagine if he murdered ur family, would u want him to go and get a tech career???
@@joeheeheehoohoo6696 I wouldn't want it to happen again to someone elses family so yes, that doesn't mean I wouldn't hate the guy but what has happened can't be undone so it would be better to make sure it didn't happen again.
@@joeheeheehoohoo6696 pure pragmatism, do you want a person who has already killed someone to kill more or stop killing? one ends up with more dead people and one ends up with fewer, i think the system we have in the nordics is fantastic because as shown in the video, it works (most of the time)
My best firends borhter who is much older was in prison for 5 years from 2015 till 2020
I was super supprised by his stories of how confused he was when he got out. How fast the tech has evolved. How many new games came out. He is 30 now, and yet all of that is super supprising. He was in for organizing iligel tech imports, but he was cought with weed
This prison has better facilities and amenities than my University.
University is a prison just for the mind
Amenities
@@Niall-jd8zw im 24 and this is deep
@@Niall-jd8zw except it's not. Unless you are taking about American commercialized education
Lmao
That’s the most well dressed prison inmate I’ve ever seen
@@ObesePuppies ikr
@@edo-san almost lol
Best possibility, he will never do such thing he regret.
@@ObesePuppies Well it at first glance, he doesn't look like he even killed someone not until the voice actor said he did.
And I don't think he will do those kind of things anymore. Once someone was given another chance to change and be a better version of himself/herself, they will really change and reflect to all the bad things they did.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 i mean shoot yo shot he can have guests i assume😂😂😂
Gonna go to Finland just to get arrested
Same lol
leggo
That'll just get you deported back as a criminal '^^
@@XplosivCookie woosh
You can skip the arrest part and just come to Finland.
That 1 prisoner who went back to jail to get a PhD because he can't change to study in a normal university.
Finland is the only country where inmates truly Finnish their sentence.
aaa i see what u did there...but all prison should be like this, happy and healthy people dont do crimes, hurt and damaged people do
This is brilliant 🤣🤣
I sent, hence you should get a notice to serve a sentence of life for that.
@@farhanrafi8481 your opinion would drastically change if lets say its your loved one murdered
@@commentsthatwillannoyyou9873 I would want justice not vengeance. I do not want that killer to die or to be tortured, but to be in a prison for a very very long time or a life sentence. Violence does not fix anything or bring back anyone, its redundant and useless
Never realized the guy from the Hitman games was a real Finnish guy with a degree in Tech. Very insightful video.
makes sense, he was sentenced for murder after all
is it agent 47?? i dunno i dont play or watch those games
@@abandonedaccount123 yes
@@katomiccomics202 aha im smart
where is the barcode?
When Finnish prisoners have a chance at a better future and career than American college grads
Actually yes
Only if you major in something stupid or go to a college extremely outside your means
Damn, that actually stung...
Finland 5 million people
U.S more than 250
I'm black with 2 degrees and still can't get a good job
They have a better life than most people struggling for food and shelter.
A better life in a Finnish prison than a free person in most countries.
When a murderer is nicer than the people in your neighborhood..
tbh the murder could’ve been a really bad person ig that would’ve never been sentenced ig. ive dealt with my own family members genuinely trying to kill me but he seems chill
@@vamvavaa8905 he's exaggerating
There are different types of murderer, the common are the one who got oppressed and the one who had no remorse who just do it for fun or being Told by a voice on their head. You don't want to meet the 2nd one
I feel that people living in Sweden they are very nice gentle and kind,, even I once chatted with a girl who was got kidnapped & forced to be a prostitute..... he still in prison but seem very nice with that small girl-----she also said that she very happy when she being a prostitute....hmmm
@@vamvavaa8905 to be honest i DONT know, we can never visit my grandmothers grave in safety. im not joking on this but we sadly have no proof, kinda like almost rivalries, but much more dangerous. they often harass us for like awhile looping around the graveyards site. i honestly don’t know, ive just always grown up with people trying to hurt me
"This prison is better than my college"
Yeah, and prison is free too
Guess we committing a murder
They get rewards for killing in Finland
😂😂
College is free in Finland
@Two-Shots forgiveness should be given to those that deserve it no matter what they did
This takes “I wanna be a criminal when I grow up” to a whole other level.
No.. should say I wanna be prisoner when I grow up.. lolz
LMAO
Lol
@Lucio Centurión That's sad lmao
@Jamie lost sole “you got to attack the problem not the person” perfectly said but such a hard concept that society and the gov won’t ever consider. Feelings of revenge and punishment overcomes people when angry.
It is crazy to think that a murderer who was sentenced to life in prison in Finland lives a more comfortable life and has more opportunities than an average worker in Brazil.
I don't know how to feel about that...
imagine you leave the prison and the front lady tells you “come back before sunset!”
🤣🤣
We have them in Ireland too
I wanna go to that prison,
@Zurk The man in the video committed murder and is living a better life than Some Americans will ever have. This just shows why Finland is the happiest country.
@Zurk he killed a man
Forget about him living a better life than most americans, he even speaks english better than most people living in english speaking countries.
@Trev they all deserve the experience so say if he were tp get out he could be employed
That’s what I was thinking. His vocabulary was really good.
Uh no, he doesn't
It's pretty common for people to learn English and have better grammar than a lot of native English speaking people and it's due to them learning English with very strict literary rules that they're not accustomed to and engraining that into their brain, while native English speakers don't typically learn those rules, they just talk the way they were raised to.
@Zurk Are you a Finn? Because if you're a Finn and have to pay for college, you've been fooled.
"this man has a lifesentence for murder"
The man: hello friends
Thats what I thought 🤣
who hasnt
Woah I never seen that emoji. Neat.
@chase noneya what bro????
@@vrish1420 what they said makes sense. If I kill someone in self defense am I the bad guy? Was i always a killer? No, just one thing lead to another and now someone is without a pulse. You'd be surprised how many "murders" weren't in cold blood, but self defense or defending someone or something they care about...while they being completely "not mean" people. For example the poor Cuban man that killed 26 people driving a truck for the first time without his instructor....and on that terrible day brakes weren't working. 26 "murders". All because of brakes.
In high school we had a Finnish transfer student here in California and she was always super happy
*Someone in finland* : commits murder
Finland prison system : "I'm about to *start* this man's entire career"
yes
cuz sometimes people make mistakes or was not raised properly so i guess they may need a second chance, funny thing is even God would forgive murder easily as long as you ask for forgiveness so am not suprised
You deserve a like, here you go!
@@painfulrug16960 Yeah it adds up to a limit tho.
You cannot forgive a serial killer or a idk baby...kidnapper...seller...that kills kittens and puppies for fun?
You get the point, lets not forget the fact that a person actually died here.
@@nicolasrodriguez5054 yeah i agree lol
The judge to the criminal: "I sentence you to a better life."
“You are bad, now, I want you to be good”
Would be nice if all of the government branches were like this, we can have a nice world
Doesn’t work in every country tho
Well if prisons are so nice, imagine the insane benefits of JUST WORKING MINIMUM WAGE. Lol!
@@justarandomguy5168 100% you’re correct
@@odd-ysseusdoesstuff6347 a murderer deserves nothing more than a bullet in the head.
Finland’s prison seems better than my normal everyday life
That is just sad 😞
Don't worry. America is the greatest country in the world. Just ask any REAL American.
@@jsmariani4180 damn right you socialist commie
@@paulrodriguez6054 None of you are really correct
@@krololol do you know what sarcasm is?
What really baffles me is the fact that even though their prisons look like this but still there are so less crimes there😮. Meanwhile other countries have bad prison conditions still the crime rate is up
Just saying, a life sentence in Finland is actually 12 years.
12 likes lol
@@mate_on_f7916 true :D also hi a fellow chess player!!
@@oo-hn6do yeah :) do u play on liChess
@@mate_on_f7916 i do !
"And thats how i met your mother"
Daughter: so I’m dating a guy in prison
Mom: no no no
Daughter: he’s from Finland
Mom: aw how nice
😂😂😂😂
LMAO
Underrated comment🤣
Don't know why TH-cam recommended me this video. But okay i watch because he's so hot!
Ok
It’s almost as if they haven’t turned their prison system into a source of profit
In a way it is. But instead of profiting from inmates, the system aims to make them tax payers.
@po-tat-0 po-tat-0 That is how it works in Finland pretty much, there are different types of prisons for different types of people.
@po-tat-0 po-tat-0 USA can have it if there are enough people wanting it, that creates political pressure which makes it happen.
The real issue is that people in USA are way too emotional, everything is always about hearts and minds, great feelings etc. =)
Downside for this is that it makes people to lean more on the eye for an eye style of punishments, they can't think the matter practically.
Finland has like 5 million people and America has 400 million
@po-tat-0 po-tat-0 it’s not a broken system it’s that there’s more people, and thus it’s harder to manage them
I’m all for rehabilitation for those who deserve it . I would like to hear a credible argument on why a murderer deserves a 2nd chance. I would like to hear what the victims family thinks of the killers life in prison .
Ah crazy to see you here
If you looked at the other comments here, you would know that the guy is finishing his sentence in an open prison because he spent of his time in a "regular" prison. He served his time, thats it.
@@adammasterx5854 served his time ? Hes still young and killed someone. What about the person who died? No one who kills should ever be let out into society
So it sounds like you're not all in for rehabilitation @@theprofessional155
@@theprofessional155 You're thinking in terms of "retribution" but the this system is designed on a principle of efficiency and rehabilitation. Majority of murders are personal one-offs, with actually not a high chance of repeating. Usually killings in Finland happen under influence and in some kind of personal altercation, meaning high levels of alcohol and fighting (usually between two-men) that escalated to violence where one party lost their life. The idea is that if the killer has been psychologically assessed as being low-risk for repetitive behavior, and they are a working-age person, they can actually contribute to the society a lot more if they are educated and paying taxes, than they would sitting behind bars the rest of their life (which costs money for the rest of the citizens). So the logic is, that it serves society more to rehabilitate and get them back to being a contributor, instead of a net-drain. The data shows that the vast majority of people will not repeat the crimes after being released, so it's calculated as being more profitable to rehabilitate prisoners that are assessed to be low-risk.
Everyone gangsta until people start breaking into prisons and not out
lolol
"Hey, what are you in for?"
"Nothing, I won my sentence on a quiz show!"
@@arrowsarikoski9740 because of ievan polka?
_breaks law by breaking into nice prison_
_get sent to same prison as punishment_
????
Profit
If You fail your grades just go to finland and commit crime
Bruh this guy looks more chill than the ppl outside of prison.
Imagine being the victims family seeing this crap
@@letmetranslate4249 exactly
you can be chill and murder someone don't judge a book by it's cover.
@@letmetranslate4249 I’m almost thinking that this guy must have murdered for an understandable reason I.e. finding out a guy sexually assaulted your daughter or caught a man cheating on your longtime wife. Has to be a reason that he’s only serving 15 years, and that they still allow him to have some freedom.
@@letmetranslate4249 I’m sure there are high security prisons in Finland for extremely dangerous criminals. There’s no way every prisoner is allowed to stay at a place like this. Some will take that opportunity to escape.
Imagine being murdered in one of the safest countries in the world.
That's unlucky.
If my brother was murdered I wouldn’t want him living the life of larry
@@jacobgabrieel6646 Thankfully Finland is more concerned with law and order than they are in people's feelings. It doesn't matter if justice is served, all that matters is whether it leads to a more peaceful society. Sure it's unfair that someone convicted of murder leads such an easy life when their victim's life is cut short, but life isn't fair and the average "justice" system is more about societies cohesion than actually serving justice to people. I'd rather live in a nation that errs on the side of leniency than one that uses prisoners for profit.
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@@dewdew80 Um, if it's not fair than its not justice idiot!
A murder should at least be sentenced to life. I'm sure society would be fine without such people
And the "life isn't fair" argument is dumb in this case since it can be used the other way around
@@blainefiasco8225 my exact point is it's not justice. I'm saying our "justice" system supercedes justice. That in actuality it provides law and order.
"I would kill for a life like that" has a different meaning in Finland
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U Albinos
1000th like!
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Just live in finland
If you treat people like animals, they will act like animals
We really need to reconsider who has rights judging by you people’s answers here
If someone end up in prison for killing someone yea he's an animal and should suffer
@@cheesecracker835 you killed my brain cells
@Platypus War is different,in war you are forced to kill. You can't defend your country or home with nice words. But killing in peace,killing innocent people come on that's a different story. What if someone came into your house and killed your family,would you still rehabilitate them and find a job for them?
@@heavy965 You didn't have brain cells anyways...
Yeah, but i don’t think you would like that the killer of ur dad will progress in jail and will have a better life than you!
Nice to see Agent 47 is trying to improve his hacking skills
Lol
xd
@Joey Luckey stu fu?
Bro legend
@Joey Luckey hey bud... it's a joke not a dick don't take it so hard.
Dude killed someone and gave so much shock and sadness to the family... and he gets to live the best life as a "punishment". What a joke.
Its great
You are not smart
If your American brain has not developed beyond uncivilised, tribalistic notions of vengeance, I bet it's a joke to you.
the comment section is braindead, I wonder if they would say the same if someone they cared about was taken from them and then the murderer is rewarded like this
@boredtodeath6184 u have iq equal to room temperature
A guy who graped 8 yr old girl is living best life
Are u telling me that's smart decision 🤦
" They come and go in their cars"😭😭 I don't even have a car
I guess crime in Finland is pretty good once break the law you get well treatment with goods.
(Smh)
Man, I guess they're lucky to have figured it out. They don't have the roll over rate like other countries. Focus on reform rather than punishment. Actually help their people to achieve more. Man..... Seems horrible doesn't it.
What is going on in the world lol let’s get arrested in Finland
@@itzgnik1599 and that's how you would lose those privileges.
I don't even have a effing driving licence !!!😂
Plot twist: he didn't actually kill someone but faked to do so to go to prison and have a better life
One thing to remember here is that life for a Finnish prison inmate is comparatively much worse than for an average citizen in Finland. Everybody has universal health care and free school tuition through tax money so when you go to prison, you lose your reputation and have the crime in your record for good and it is much harder to gain employment after the sentence (even with a college degree).
Actaully to have a better life if he is a Finnish citizen they will get help. Emotional, money, any way. Example my brother lost hes home and hes job and he is depressed and they give him free medication, monthly money and last time my brother had to pay for hes monthly medication 0.25 cents. If he didnt get help the medication wouldve costed him about 30 euros
I mean... I would do that too you know.
@@tumbee111 Oh poor them! They broke the law, some even raped and murdered someone so now their reputation is ruined! What a nightmare.
@@jasmin3255 what's it like for Lgbt folks?
Morality of the story: better be a murderer in Finland than a worker in the US.
Smh
In the U.S you work for rent or mortgage...in Finland its free...but you must kill someone first.
Morality is that you shouldn't treat anyone as they are treated in U.S.A. prisons. Also, you should give people a framework so they became a better version of themselves. Otherwise you just throwing a person in a hole and perpetuating their previous behaviours. Otherwise, what's the point of prison? Make a profit?
@@Alt3Tab That's what I don't get, who needs a prison when you have a death sentence.
Not sure if I was sarcastic or not
Aren’t prisons designed to discourage such things?
A little weird listening a murderer say everyone needs a second chance
If anyone would know it would be him. Would this sound better if a human who never needed a second chance said it?
“Inmates come and go in their own cars” is when I lost it 😂
Our society is build for trust.
they are still in a compund. like they aren't going home.
@@TheWeepingDalek ::
Man ! Who wants to go home after being in a Finnish prison ?
@@cliffgaither many. Because life outside prison is still better. You have to remember. No tuition fees, free health care, decent holiday pay. Sure taxes are high but more fins on average are in work. Less homelessness, less drug use.
@@TheWeepingDalek ::
Of course you're absolutely right about Finnish Society !
I was subconsciously thinking of the brutality of U.S. prisons & how if the Finnish Model existed here, who would want to go home, especially since "home-life" here may not be so great.
I completely forgot to take Finnish General Society into comparison to prison conditions _in Finland !_
In reality, honestly, what I have read about Finland, it is one of the most civilized & advanced Countries, so it is perfectly reasonable her prison system would be equally civilized & advanced.
Now that I think about it ... the Finnish system could never be implemented in the U.S. The crimes here can be horrific & the public wants comprable punishment.
Thanks for reminding me about one of the few countries that will be left on Earth, after the chaos of inhumanity !
What a current US prison is, is a museum in Finland.
That really puts it into perspective
A kinda ironic
We have regular prisons here too. Ironic that I'm finnish, but I like the prisons sentences in the US more. You can 12-17 years in prison for murder here in finland. That's not justice, more like injustice.
@@themondayguy Well, American prisoners will reoffend much more.
@@olliedwards8069 Yup, they'll reoffend and most prisons in the US aren't actually there to rehabilitate a person and make them into better citizens, it's usually the opposite.
@@themondayguy it depends on how the murder happened and what led the prisoner to commit the murder. what if somebody was harrasing you and going around telling people lies about you and you felt the only way to end the problem was to kill the person
It's almost like treating prisoners as fellow human beings makes them more responsible. Who would have thought?
@Brian Andersen yeah thats probably why dangerous third world countries have long sentences and the safest country in the world has short ones. Go figure.
@Brian Andersen yes usa is the worst western country and the only one with long sentences
@Brian Andersen I understand your sentiment, but I believe in rehabilitations over punishments. It’s more ethical (although debatable), productive, and beneficial to the community.
@Brian Andersen grow up, American still lives a hundred years in the past despite its wealth. You are human, much different and unique than an animal, yet you end up thinking like them. Justice is in rehabilitation, killing the criminal won't satisfy anyone or anything, maybe temporarily, but not forever.
Also finland has a 33% reoffending rate compared to 60-80 in other countries (including America, which is supposed to be a first world country)
@@jacintofernandes2907
Finland is also a much smaller country, with one the whitest and most homogenous populations in the world. Hardly a fair comparison.
you see i love how these prisons are focusing on teaching rather then being concrete timeout zones
"I'm sorry, I'm a little body conscious, as u can see I have gained a few pounds."
Me(chokes on own saliva) : sir what!?
he do by kinda shy
*picks jaw up off of floor*
Are you gay or smtn
@@vmsh9810 does that matter?
😂😂
@@alrineusaldore6764 then murder somebody 👀
I like how it's so calm
"Here is a man sentenced for murder, he is taking a good ol' swim in an ice pool"
ima keep at 69 likes
@@zlaikqamvs8280 no one cares
And that victim he just murdered em.. watch down from heaven at this murderer get a fake ass prison system.. without any punishment!
Man.. victim ain’t gonna forgive him! Nope.. nope.. neither god or Jesus! 😕
@@g.c.t.fbennyf1wheels645 why does the murderer need any further punishment?
his sin was him taking someone's life, his punishment is his stripped access from the rest of the world, and his cure is the rehabilitation he receives.
the lord is a forgiving entity. if he wasn't, heaven would be empty.
@@Termsofseve Another insufferable liberal. You think you're being virtuous but you lack empathy for the victims of crimes. It's sad that you probably won't alter your worldview until you're a victim of crime.
“ inmates come and go in their own car”
Wait , what...
License and registration plz
Right? Like... are they really inmates at that point? This seems like probation more than prison lol
So it’s just like free housing..
@@razrv3lc It´s open prison, whether or not you will serve your sentence in an open prison is based on individual assessment. Most prisoners on good behaviour will be transferred though. Finland has 26 prisons and 11 of them are open prisons. However, even in closed traditional prisons you get to go on holidays in the outside world and live with your family. You have them a few times a year.
@@Наиля-о7к
Countries from Northern Europe with their well-developed systems seem like such cool places to live, except for when they become too cool during the winter, or any other time for that matter...
Just imagine... Someone you love was killed. The murderer is captured and sentenced to study IT Technologies. Feels interesting....
Yeah, as a Finn I’m not too happy about that. Luckily those who get killed here are usually other bad people, not random outsiders.
Tv show: "how to get away with murder"
Finnish: why though
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Exactly
@teletubbykiller54 Finland's crime rate is double that of the United States.
@@gatocles99 Crime statistics are often better indicators of prevalence of law enforcement and willingness to report crime, than actual prevalence. More serious crimes are a better indicator, because they are less likely to go unreported. And the USA has 2-3x more murders per capita than Finland.
@@headhunter1945 blablabla word salad.
“Mika who is 10 years into a 15 years sentence”
*shows him playing happily with a vr*
the people at home: 👁👄👁
I read this as it was happening 😄.
This makes me more conscious about my index order.
what does this mean? i am caveman
@@fforfahimthey're talking about a virtual reality headset ie. Oculus rift, quest
@@alepepperoni2563 i know, the part i don't get is people at home:
Theif: Robs a bank
Finland: So you have choosen Javascript
Underrated
Nice one lol
Honestly, that’s worse than the death sentence if you ask me
@@McnnFimillan i mean- you got a point.
@@McnnFimillan it's not that hard
That man murdered three people and only did 10 years in prison for it. Imagine being a family member of one of the victims and seeing him out of the streets again so soon.
buddy he is out on the streets the next day lmao, its an open prison. terrible for the family but its how it works over there
In that case, avenge them and go home next week.
what's his name?
Most people will never be sent to jail even if they commit the most heinous crimes, like child molestation, rape, or aggravated assault. But if they do get a sentence, it will be very low.
Also, when looking at Finnish sentences, you always have to keep in mind that our courts love giving all kinds of discounts. So if someone is sentenced to 2 years, it will actually be more like less than one. If a first-time murderer gets 10 years, it will be more like 5 before they're out.
Youth discounts are also a thing, and there are all kinds of mitigating circumstances which result in a shorter actual serving time than what is nominally sentenced.
@@FINNSTIGAT0R yes but we know that many child molester don't just do it one time (i don't know how to say it) what happens if they do it many times?
America: Schools that look like prisons
Finnland: Prisons that look like schools
America is not a country
@@mateoito8266 you know what he meant, and if you want to get into specifics pretty sure they're referred to as the Americas when talking about the continent while America usually refers to the country
Nah more like Finland: Prisons that are better than American schools
Finland schools are insanely nice
@@Neopoiitancx nah, America is the continent. United States is the United States. And apparently the center of the universe according to some
"This man is serving a life sentence for muder."
Damn, this guy must be pretty intimidating.
"I'm sorry, I'm a little body conscious as you can see, I've gained a few pounds."
...
but he's still so ripped. like .....
It was a joke, lol
@@freudbrahms254 The joke was he is kinda ripped, and hes in for murder, and he just says that little sentence and its funny. But its ok.
This comment strikes me as naïve, psychopaths are experts at making themselves seem innocent.
@@adrianbayley6939 Don't get me wrong, I don't think he is the nicest guy and he is in there for a reason, but it's just funny that he's like that. This was just a fun comment, not like I actually wanna see this guy. No need to call me that..
"this man is serving a life sentence for murder"
him: "sorry im a little self conscious🥺"
😂😂
Yeah, let's feel bad for a murderer, sure.
@@aabe1189 i mean, we dont really know what happened, it could have been an accident or self defense
@@dreamsatdusk Then it wouldn't be murder. It would be manslaughter.
@@neesh69 my thoughts exactly
This is stunning. To see how people in Finland are treated humanely, while in the US and many other places they are treated worse than animals. Who is more enlightened? Thank you, Finland.
The person in the video is a convicted murderer. And your worried about what’s humane?
@@_Targetedindividual - we obviously have different ideas about life. I did not ask for your permission to have my opinions. Thank you.
@@wyesjcbnwr8606 you left your opinion on a public TH-cam video for others to see. Don’t be surprised when people respond to you
@@_Targetedindividual - Granted.
and Jesus said, let those without sin throw the first stone. That one must have gone way over your head, because you must feel so superior to those "criminals". Do you think you are not capable of such an act? Are you that pure, or that arrogant and deluded? Frankly. I used to think that way myself. Now I am no longer deluded that way.
I have a friend on steam who I met that lived in Finland and during him being arrested he would play CS:GO with us. lol.
lmaooo
Yeah I know people that play cs from prison
LOLLLL
Loll
@entItyVR bro your drunk goto bed.
*murders someone*
Judge: “On the charges of first degree murder, I hereby sentence you to a financially successful tech career!”
Thats why most of the prisoners are found hanging from an ethernet cable. Not many people can stand that lifestyle!.
@@Jebu911 what are you talking about??
@@PraveenSrJ01 he’s being sarcastic.
@The Underdog Seeking revenge makes you just as bad as the offender, seeking rehabilitation can make everyone's lives better. That is the philosophy here
@@mechadonia What is better, throwing people into jail so you can pay for their living expenses by your own tax money, or training them to stop being criminals and work for their own bread. IMO the first one is by far worse, no matter what the history is. People can change, i don't know if it is due to more deep rooted christian values there or smthng, but i would like to think people are not defined entirely by their past/sins, but also by their motivation to seek a better future.
It's hard to think a dude like this got put away for killing someone. Just seems like a regular guy
why do you believe a killer doesn't look like a regular guy?
@@lummx I do, but the way he's joking around and laughing makes me think he's the most innocent guy ever
he isn't a psychopath, he probably killed a member of other gang or something similar (another criminal)
I think our society really just dehumanizes people who have made mistakes and sometimes yeah some people are truly evil, but most are just like us down on their luck or had made horrible decisions that they regret
@@lolnowwhat yup some people get caught in the wrong place in the wrong time
There was stepfather who killed his stepchild with steam cleaner machine. They let him free because there was not enough proof was it intentional. Last year they didn't give prison sentence for murder because killer had "temporary mental disorder".
I understand that it's good to give people a chance and let them back to normal life and society if they did some smaller crimes.
But I don't understand why society is so soft on murderers. Finnish society is protecting more criminals than victims.
So you’ve taken one anecdote and that’s your whole evidence for a big judgement on the Finnish justice system?
tell me you're american without actually telling me you're american.
Have you ever set foot in Finland? No? Worry less about us and start by thinking how your own nation can be fixed 👍
@@s5nse I live in Finland. Prison sentences are very short.
@@s5nse Actually the main problem with our (Finland) sentencing system is that it fails to recognize people who are a threat to society and should just be seperated from others. We have clearly ill people that have been sentenced in some cases three (3) times to a life sentence but since it's only 13 years actually, they get to wreak havoc quite a bit in their lifetime.
Northern European man: "I've gained a few pounds" *takes off shirt to reveal visible abs*
Lol U almost got me to smile :I
@@TheNismo777 maybe nxt time c:
@@lizs606 Ice dipping is the next bodywork
He looks good 😌
He has to look good for his shower buddy. ;)
I recently read a thought that really made me think: all prisoners are someone's future next door neighbors. Do you want your next door neighbor to be an institutionalized, angry person with great connections to the criminal scene, or people who have had the opportunity to better themselves, live a life as close to a normal one as possible, and have access to mental health professionals if needed and a bright future ahead of them? Right. I'm a proud Finn!
I love your way of thinking. I wish more people thought of the future instead of short term gains.
Depends on what they did. If they're like a serial killer, they shouldn't ever get out again.
I want repeated offenders dead, problem solved.
@@GatsuKS What if they're not guilty? What kind of offences? If some kid gets caught shoplifting three times, should they get the death sentence?
@@cacamilis8477 Serious offenders such as murderers, pedophiles, rapists, armed robbers, drug dealers etc. What are the odds of a repeater like that being innocent despite clear evidence and their history of violence? There is no point in keeping them in the society, they only cause misery.
He's like Hitman's Agent 47 studying in an IT course.
You are right mates
r/rareinsults
Indeed
You are exactly correct! He even dresses like 47!
He seems not dangerous man. He killed the target for pride maybe
"Why don't you escape"
"Against the rules"
Someone rightly said in the modern world Geography decides your destiny
rine capatilism reigns supreme
@@rebeccaanderson5626 sure does. Greetings from Mannheim ;)
@@igeljaeger Oh a fellow German? Y'all speak English?
it always has been that way.
@@rowandawson9750 Nope. The visa & permit system to travel across the world made it worse
‘So want do you want to be in future?’
me: A finland prisoner
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
dead!!! lol
*finnish
What not want lol
finnish
Police Officer: Why did you kill this man ?
Killer: Because I want to learn HTML and CSS
Internet? Free courses, thousands of them? Practically limitless self learning opportunities?
@@hj2479 dude its a joke
I hate paying rent. The only way out is to .....
LMAO
lmfaoo that basically explains it.
Imagine someone killing you mother, father, brother or sister and they live like this. I dont care what anyone says, this is not "progress" and this is certainly not justice.
It is progress. If through whatever rehabilitation methods they are using, they can find out why he murdered someone they can use that information to prevent it from happening again. If 3500 get sick, and they go to the hospital and they say "well what did you say?" "Boars head meat" they use that data to track how many people were infected, when it started, where they bought it, what products are effected and end the spread of illness. Many people in the US are dying or being hospitalized for fentanyl, so we know there is a significant issue regarding fentanyl and are making efforts to reduce it.
"What's your education?"
"Finnish prison"
"You're hired"
nout gulty : sorrynpork
@@janik8812 Even Google translate couldnt understand what you're saying
@@AA-bz1pr lmao
but for real though
And a tricky question..
What should I do with you in job interview?
Inmate: “You’re hired!”
Boss: Yes! That’s right! And one more tricky question..
After I hired you and should I make you..?
Inmate: Promote me as new boss replace you?
Boss: Yes, Fantastic! 👏🏻
I feel like this guy has more freedom than me. 😱
Hahaha same
Same
Move to Finland NUGGA
@@sjaaklent9569 IDK... Too cold there. 🥶
Same😅
Teacher "what's your dream"
Me: i dream of being a finland prisoner
🤣🤣🤣
Nani?!
Finnish
@Arf Arf Awoo 👁️👄👁️
I was just thinking that ....go to Finland. End up in jail so I can restart better then the first round and get an education and not have to worry about bills, etc.
Imagine seeing someone who killed your loved one feeling happy in a prison
@militant_pacifistmake sure u tell that to ppl that lose there love one
When prison education is better than my college education...
then your college education system is better then our education system in romania 😐
@phillycp3 if in every single country was an equal education system
but that is a dream :(
@phillycp3 No, colleges aren't liberal. It's the teachers who are liberal because liberals treat them better and put an emphasis on better education. The Earth is naturally liberal. Who's for conservation? Who's for free public college? Who's for forgiving student loans and teacher pensions? Of course the staff is gonna lean liberal.
That is so sad. Even sadder, you paid for it
@@michaelespeland lmao who paid?
"The Hitman" learning AI
Real agent 47
Al?
Lmfao🤣🤣
@@walhallw7436 artificial intelligence
So, I fly to Finland, kill someone, and get best free education/full accommodation on taxpayers' money.. CAN SANE PEOPLE REALISE HOW FUCKED UP THIS IS?!!!
Mom : we can't afford college ?
Me : * Flies to Finland and Commits a crime*
im thinking in doing that actually
@@machinegun2282 you would just get deported and go back to prison in your home country
@@juliusminklei7846 nope, im gonna go to Finland, stay there 3 years until i get my finnish nationality and then i commit the crime
@@machinegun2282 I mean you could do that but you'd have a better life during the 3 years you stayed there before committing the crime than afterwards. Keep in mind that life in prison is still a downgrade from the usual living standards in Finland
In other words: Committing the crime wouldn't serve you anything and be quite useless at that point. Moving to Finland would be the way to go
@@strivingfornewhorizons9281 that's true, but take in count that i'm not thinking in committing any crime. It was just hypothetical conversation.
See how he is treated like a normal human, not a prisoner.
A murderer isn't a normal person
well he shouldnt be
John: I graduated from MIT
Brian: I was released from Finland prison.
Recruiter: Brian, you're hired.
honestly lol
😂
Sadly that's how it is.
@@mrsTraveller64 its not like that at all lol
💀💀❗
When you realize Finland prison is much better and safer than your School.
lol my school does not even have security cameras and guards
Much*
Damn. But you're speaking the absolute truth!
America moment
Its not a good prison if it isn't safe tf logic is that??!?!?!?
Prison chapter in any game objective : *Steal the warden keys*
Prison chapter in a game set in Finland objective : *Study for prison science Olympics*
I would totally play a game based on Finland's prisons
Live equally ?? He lives better than me
i feel like being a finnish citizen would solve all my problems. so far, a finnish prisoner has a better life than me
that’s what happens when you vote socialism and not conservative!
@@animefreak8718 Finland is Socialist democratic country not 100% socialist
@@kessu1863 by your logic every European country is socialist democratic
@@a70770 well you can say it that way
@@a70770 yes.